Unlearning Race with Thomas Chatterton Williams - [Bonus Partial Episode]
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In this episode, I interview Thomas Chatterton Williams, an American author, columnist, and cultural critic. We talk about identity politics, the conflict between race consciousness and color blindness, reparations, the logic of diversity, and more.
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Guys please support this podcast Coleman is absolutely terrific. He's Sam Harris, Socrates & Thomas Sowell all rolled in 1!!!
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We need people like you more than ever right now.
Stop being so desperate and become someone yourself.There are people with his views everywhere. The facts that he points out obvious things that impress so many people makes me think we need less people like you. If you are not aware of the amount of people who say basic things like Coleman, then open your eyes.
@@markseymour1975 Jesus man, calm down. Of course what he is saying seems obvious to those of us who believe the same things. Compare the number of people you see talking about this stuff like Coleman and Glenn vs the number of people pushing the main stream narrative. What is the point of making your comment so divisive? We need less of that right now.....
Coleman and Thomas have the right to their opinions, but regardless its construction, race matters, particularly in the context of American History. It isn't prudent for ADOS (AMERICAN Descendants of Slaves) to forget it, because the stakes are too high to continue business as usual. WHITE AMERICANS as a collective have to untether themselves from a politics and social custom that has favored them in just about everything since forever and a day. They must learn to share decent schools, reimagine law enforcement and penal policy, insist livable and affordable housing is available to all, make healthcare a right, insist communities be free of toxins and pollution, stem global warming, stop enabling job and housing discrimination by their silence, cease its support of voter suppression, practice political discernment and atone for their invention and support of "identity politics," which enables racial, religious and sectional divisions -- and allowed CRA-Z possible on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue up in da' White House, which the slaves built. It must use their collective influence and wealth to help the United States of America from descending into what Ronald Wilson Reagan coined (speaking of communism and the former Soviet Union) as the "trash heap of history." But for the enslaved and their descendants, their free and low wage labors over 100s of years, America would not have had the financial resources making possible its stealth economics, which created the Ivy League and other fine institutions of higher learning, and helped birth Wall Street, new industries and the Industrial Revolution, making numerous individuals and families wealthy beyond measure. Indeed it seems like a gift that keeps on giving...to everyone it except ADOS. It's sinful, when not galling, that the sum of our contributions haven't added up to our opportunities, nor our right to self-determination by getting America off our backs which we broke for it. Does morality and justice mean anything? Why are our substantial seminal and ongoing efforts ignored? Why hasn't anything been done to remedy ADOS' "bottom-caste" status? Where's our REMEDY...where's the MONEY...where's the REPARATIONS? If as of 2020 the country, in fact, has already given twenty groups theirs, where's ADOS'? Stop running a train on it. Their specific lineage deserves better, so DO THE RIGHT THING. Yesterday. With due respect.
@@markseymour1975 Now, now, people need to believe that pleasant rhetoric will solve the problems. the don't _want_ to hold the people indecision-making power accountable, do they? So belief that Our Rhetoric causes the problems to be fixed MUST be believed even though this or the lack of it has nothing to do with causes of anything.
For instance from 2018 through 2019, no less a governing body than the U.S. Congress itself REMINDED US that peddling one's influence for a quid pro quo while in office was a conflict of interest SO CRIMINAL, it's even illegal for a president to commit it.
Has my mentioning this or anyone pretending to have not heard it cured cancer? _NO!_ But it really gets people angry. So they believe that 'Government' is a Caring, Benevolent Living Entity who doesn't know what's going on in the world outside his man-cave, but that our pleasantly wording things as we tell Him what the Problems Are might instigate him to act to solve them because people don't want to face facts, hold themselves _OR_ their Gods accountable.
It's not like following this trend can lead to people arguing over what the best rhetorical policies no one ever installs instead of thinking about real world solutions, or believing that wasting time talking about wish-fulfillment fantasies can allow the harmful policies to continue, is it? What could be harmful about believing talking = action & allowing the harms to continue while we enact such beliefs? It won't _prevent_ for-profit prisons from being shut down, will it?
It also won't shut them down. Yet the people here believe that Daddy-Government *is listening,* so one way or another, pointing out that He isn't gets them extremely upset.
Anyhow, that takes care of my excess sarcasm build-up. For now anyway.
@Coleman Hughes, just dropping some encouragement and admiration. I'm an average middle-aged white guy (also a lawyer - JD) who appreciates political and social debate and commentary. Your ability to dismantle an opposing argument - all while maintaining empathy and compassion, is special (even among intellectuals). Few have that combination (Haidt is another that comes to mind), and it is impactful. Hope your audience grows and you reach as many people as possible.
I really appreciate the mention of Native Americans since actually factoring them into the current debate requires us to take a more more holistic and practical look at how to handle our current issues.
This man needs to be heard.
Well, you will be the first ever content creator I support. The world needs your message. You are on a rocketship my friend.
Epistemology, reason, skepticism, logic, and science? It’s so refreshing to hear a rational conversation about these topics.
Sane voices in a world drowning in hysteria
I think you are a very intelligent level headed man i wish we had more voices like yours for young people to learn from
Just became a supporter. Recent events have made me realize how important people like Coleman are, and it's time for us all to put our money where our mouths are. Thanks Coleman.
When Thomas mentioned that his daughter was blonde with blue eyes, I immediately googled it. I'm not particularly sentimental, but one picture stuck out to me; a picture of him holding his daughter with a big smile. For some reason, my eyes welled up with tears for a moment and I forgot about the insanity going on in the world right now and just felt super happy and hopeful. I will soon be having a child coming into this world and I've often wondered how I'll approach the subject of race with them, considering they'll be "bi-racial" (whatever that means).
Thank you for all the work you do Coleman.
Bi-racial means nothing! There are more people like that in the world than you think. They either call themselves white if they get away with it or they call themselves the race of the parent that has the melanin. If the other parent is Black that's what society will see them as, Black just like Obama and Halle Berry. There is no box on birth certificates that says bi-racial, because there is no such thing as bi-racial. The one drop rule applies!
Bro Im a big fan. Found u yesterday. Appreciate the perspective man. I’m a huge Sowell fan so naturally I’m here.
Listen to and read everything that has his name on it its truly amazing
100%. Recent listener as well and have great admiration.
Fascinating conversation. I encourage everyone to support Coleman through his website.
Why was a People enslaved? It was Capital and it has become a class problem that involves the nation. Who am I, a descendent of slaves born in Birmingham, Alabama 1952. In my opinion it is a category mistake to consider the situation today in terms of race; the phenotypical expressions are there, but this is all superficial. If you bring people on ships from Africa to America, then think of that ship voyage as a marriage ritual. You were a bachelor and now you are married; that is a context change, so you can think of history as a meaningful context for the participants. We did not come from Africa as a people living today: we were born in slavery as a new People. People have a destiny and our destiny manifested as the Blues and Jazz out of hundreds of years of suffering.We are the most significant People of the modern world, not despite our pain but because of it: in other words all factical Dasein attunements, whether they know it are not, is influenced by our beats and rhythms .
Books reading suggestions for an understanding of history: Ontology - a hermeneutics of facticity by Martin Heidegger, Phenomenology of intuition and expression by Martin Heidegger, the Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler, and The Use and Abuse of History by Friedrich Nietzsche.
@@brucecmoore1657 that was boring what you said.
“We don’t know what to do with Asians.” Truly, I respect this conversation so much, but just as truly, that cracked me up 😂
That was funny
I had a chuckle, I think the answer is to hug them.. but not China. Fuck China.
Ah. I see that the "but Americans must determine everyone's role for them" culture has finally seeped into the Black community.
It was only a matter of time.
Haven’t heard such a young smart man like this in a long time.
Glad I found this. Thank you Coleman for making this portion of the podcast available. I'm mindful of supporting via Patreon when I am able. Your voice is so rare, supporters gotta show up. Hang in there, champ!
Subbed after seeing you on atheism is unstoppable. ✌️
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I didn't know so many people were here from AIU! But I guess there's the Sam Harris connection so it Makes Sense
Very grateful for your work, Mr Hughes. This conversation on whether "race" exists was useful. I'd love to hear you discuss "cultures" with a similar level of skeptical detail. It's clear to me that the idea of culture is meaningful and yet it's not very clear to know how to go further because it is so hard to define. Specifically I'd like to hear your thoughts on American black cultures. And notice that I have to use the term "black" to point towards what I'm asking about, even though skin tone is a very limited indicator for a person's cultures.
AIU sent me. I'm looking forward to listening to your stuff! Love it so far
52:31 and onward so perfectly and eloquently puts together a thought that I invariably struggle to communicate convincingly. I just want to show people exactly these ending thoughts from you both. That lack of agency that is applied to black people - and I can imagine without realizing - is the very reason to abandon that way of looking at race.
Absolutely fantastic, nuanced, and hugely important conversation. Thanks fellas!
I appreciate you Coleman! Color blindness has become so stigmatized & it's so unnecessary & backwards. In the last video on my channel, I go deep into discussing color blindness & how it honors each's individual experiences/identity way more than the opposite of seeing color & assuming something from there about someone. I appreciate all perspectives though so I hope videos like ours inspire people to think critically about how they view the world.
Subbed!! Atheism is Unstoppable sent me. I'm glad that intelligent, articulate people like you are speaking truth in an age of blatant lying!
Not usually a monthly subscription kind of girl but the world needs this. Let’s support this type of work y’all!
Lol!
Thank you gentlemen. Very interesting, thought-provoking discussion.
Coleman sounds so much like Sam its crazy.
Nothing similar at all.
I was thinking the same, Sam is a clear influence, but they differ in a lot of opinions. I just think it’s the clear deliberate and somewhat dry pattern of speech.
I think they sound similar, you can tell they are both very deliberate in their choice of words, and that they have considered their positions carefully.
It sounds like he's doing a Sam Harris impression.
I love it! XD
This is sincerely one of my favourite conversations that you've ever had.
I wish these were the conversations on race that the society was having
Coleman has a long, great career ahead of him
lmao
For what it’s worth seems like the most Rational comments I’ve seen on this kind of channel With this Sensitive topic
Come on Coleman. Get those numbers up! 10.5k subs
Great conversation. Perhaps diversity is like happiness---it's important, but difficult to achieve directly. In some ways the more you focus on it the more elusive it gets. Enact affirmative action, reap racial resentment, and so forth. It is better to do the hard work of breaking down biases, increasing opportunities, etc., and letting diversity emerge as the barriers to it are dissolved, rather than mandating diversity by fiat.
Regarding reparations, perhaps we should "repair" poverty, rather than racial identity. In addition to slavery for blacks, indentured servitude affected many white Americans and wasn't outlawed until the same 13th Amendment that outlawed slavery. There is "privilege" and "disadvantage" in every family. Can we quantify it all and address it in a fair manner?
Mr. Williams's comments on the adversity score resonate so much for me. I probably would get a low "adversity" rating, and am officially quite "privileged". But this neglects the massive obstacles I have faced and continue to face on account of a deeply dysfunctional upbringing. Not to mention that people themselves have different natures---some are more outgoing, some more withdrawn; some are happier, some more melancholy; these traits affect people's lives hugely and largely are out of their control. But (barring a Bentham-style panopticon of dystopian proportions) these things will never be measured, nor should they be. They're ultimately irrelevant in a way, since we ourselves know the obstacles we face and can judge our own lives relative to the difficulties overcome. And until the individual overcomes the obstacle _within themselves_, no outside help can truly change their circumstances, being able only to open their minds to new possibilities for enacting their own agency.
this! thank you.
This comment made so much sense to me, reading it felt like a breath of fresh air, your ideas gave me fresh optimism.
Here from AIU, much respect to you.
How to have a true meritocracy with checks and balances to ensure everyone given the same advantages/ disadvantages, access to information, have equal opportunity? And what obstacles require mitigating? Creating a diverse and equal society is HARD but these challenges are at the heart of moving away from the inherited life chances of the past. We're just scratching the surface with these conversations. Yes, positive discrimination is showing to be too blunt a tool but so is kerping the status quo.
Coleman has that NPR diction but not that NPR brain. The latter is to his credit.
the best of both worlds
Why was a People enslaved? It was Capital and it has become a class problem that involves the nation. Who am I, a descendent of slaves born in Birmingham, Alabama 1952. In my opinion it is a category mistake to consider the situation today in terms of race; the phenotypical expressions are there, but this is all superficial. If you bring people on ships from Africa to America, then think of that ship voyage as a marriage ritual. You were a bachelor and now you are married; that is a context change, so you can think of history as a meaningful context for the participants. We did not come from Africa as a people living today: we were born in slavery as a new People. People have a destiny and our destiny manifested as the Blues and Jazz out of hundreds of years of suffering.We are the most significant People of the modern world, not despite our pain but because of it: in other words all factical Dasein attunements, whether they know it are not, is influenced by our beats and rhythms .
Books reading suggestions for an understanding of history: Ontology - a hermeneutics of facticity by Martin Heidegger, Phenomenology of intuition and expression by Martin Heidegger, the Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler, and The Use and Abuse of History by Friedrich Nietzsche.
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Witty
NPR is hardly the home of astute minds you believe it is.
I am assuredly not a fan of the NPR brain
I love identity politics because it feels good to be a victim and know if you remain a victim, you’ll always be on the right side of the unexamined moral compass that most people live on.
Excellent content, Coleman. Subscribed!
Supporting your work now! Love your clear thinking and intellectual honesty on such difficult topics. Keep up the great work!
Intellectuals honest? This a conversation with the highest form of subjective analysis.
Coleman, for what it’s worth, the best argument against your “Obama’s election was monumental until it wasn’t” argument is:
1). We thought it would be monumental
2). It turns out not to have indicated the changes we thought a black president would indicate.
3). So now we realize it was not indicative of the monumental change we hoped for.
Reed Arnold that actually doesn’t work. 1) Obama was monumental regardless of party and will be remembered for hundreds of years to come. 2) Your comment is subjective. 3) How so? The monumental change of him becoming President is living proof that even if there is systemic racism it doesn’t play into any significant roles of power and how we are governed. Obama was and is a living legacy and should be remembered as such.
I remember being a liberal at the time and seing a clip of Sarah Palin at a rally smirking and asking "hows that hopey-changey thing workin' out for ya?" And as much as I hated her, I knew she was right and that he was a fraud and a harmful force for the country (even though I voted for him). I also noticed that areas like Chicago where I was certain Obama would have helped, didn't change a single bit. Then I saw a video recently of him speaking at a dinner to fawning liberals bragging about doing public speeches for various banks (who he bailed out) because he "gotta get those Tubmans" to rapturous applause. Sick.
* though I've since realized that the entrenched shadow governmet is the one who gives the orders and the elected guy pretty much follows the program - so neither Trump nor Obama nor Bush nor Clinton are the ones in charge but just higher-level foot soldiers of those will actual global control - but thats another issue!)
Really thoughtful people, Really great conversation.
This conversation pleasantly reminds me of the mainstream paradigm which once existed upon the topic of race during the last two decades of 20th century.
Thank you, great conversation.
I love TCW. One of the most reasonable voices in this sphere besides Coleman
Coleman, you are so intelligent and attractive. Somehow I figured you were gay just by sensing your intelligence, poised directness, and ability to reason.
Listening from puerto rico!
Another sub from the AIU base here. Good work we appreciate you.
Found you through your politics and finally decided to check the music. Really good man!
Hey. Great content. Watching this now and several in the queue. Discovered you via our ambassador AIU. Good luck and much success my dude! Subbed obviously. Cheers, *M
AIU sent me, so glad to find you
Such a great conversation
Phenomenal book.
I’d love to donate on your site Coleman but I don’t like to subscribe to monthly fees indefinitely. I’d rather have the option to just contribute 50$. Can you make that happen?
AIU sent me. Apparently you're Sam Harris's love child. Ive loved hearing from you for a couple years but forgot to subscribe.
Coleman did drop something that is absurd. He spoke of the emotional side of his BRAIN, and his logical side. This is modern dualism.
Got sent here by Atheism is Unstoppable. Thanks for being a truth teller
Refreshing conversation
Subbed and thank you for your candor and nuanced view of the current events. How does one get a GOOD philosophy degree?
aaannd you got my subscription support. Great conversation and fascinating perspective from both!
I changed my initial thumbs down (after listening to the 1st 3 min) to a thumbs up and subd’ the channel at the end. You're a natural. Excellent work my friend. I look forward to similar great shows from you and your guests.
AiU sent me (God Emperor of the whites). Look, just wanted to say keep doing what you're doing.
My family members who are very anti-racist to the religious point. They hate that I can’t “check my white privilege!” I realize I’m treated better than some for many reasons. I’m a part Native American so I’ve seen the discrimination my mother or grandparents had to deal with and was raised based off of generations of discrimination. People (mostly white) hate that I say I understand or can relate to the fear of police or how I might be treated in public.
I can't wait for the next episode, Unlearning Race Unlearning Race Unlearning Race.
Such a great conversation!
Really helpful and intelligent conversation
Hey Coleman, you can also use an alternative to patreon: subscribestar. Also, I'd like to personally ask that you also upload your videos to bitchute, as they will be protected there. Thank you for everything you do!
NICE 1 COLEMAN. GREAT UPLOAD, KEEP DOING THE RIGHT THING.
I am learning so much
Keep going, Coleman!
Hmm, feeling kinda pimped by ya Coleman (...only the 1t hr is available). Ok...I'll listen to this episode and see if I like it. 💪
Hi. THE ROO SENT ME. SUBBED. THANKS FOR YOUR VOICE.
This topic is psychological in nature. A healthy person must be able to understand how they are perceived in many aspects and address them effectively in their life/society. There are legal and social consequences one must deal with and being black is heavy. An individual can, and should have their own sense of self and follow that guide but unlearning race entirely will only send you to an early grave. The problem with these “leftists are wrong and over generalizing” argument is it picks on flawed statements and ignores the titans. It straw mans in many cases too, and further speculates just to make a seemingly strong argument. There’s a reason why Coleman would never be in a debate with sensible anti-racists who can actively reply and call out gaping holes, assumptions, and straw man.
Biggest straw man: no one says you have to identify as black predominantly or all the time. In the U.S. black people more than most group want to be seen as just people, but our life experiences show that failing to recognize and address how others see you causes substantial problems and death. So when some shallow minded individual say: “Omg don’t identify as black, it’s a construct!” you’re making a technocratic argument against a social reality.
Reparations are not on the agenda you fools. HR-40 isn’t reparations it’s a dud commission to look into it. No mainstream Democrat has been for it so there’s a lie to spook anti-reparations folks.
Wtf - “most black people only have 70% sub-Saharan African in them.” Wow you forgot to mention why: rape of slave women.
EbonySeraphim I’m sure he’d love to debate an anti-racist? Did you not see him debate reparations 🤔
Matt Wilson I saw his speech in front of Congress against HR-40 and it was a joke. I’ve seen better arguments against reparations, but all of them miss the point of reparations and avoid addressing tue actual case for it.
Like, a person who breaks their legs on the job can get by without compensation. The can even earn more money than other folks later without help, but that doesn’t mean you don’t compensate for the injury. Every argument against reparations takes that form, or “white folks / other folks will be jealous.”
@@EbonySeraphim I'd have to rewatch it but I don't remember him making that argument at all. I thought he was actually for "reparations" in some form of community building program just against reparations as a form of a check because the money wouldn't actually be going to slaves
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I'm a new sub, AIU sent me. Thank you for your perspective and input.
Was sent here by Devon Tracey (Atheism is Unstoppable). He gave you a nice shout-out.
Why did the idea of color-blindness become so offensive? You can't have it both ways... should I assume something about something based on their color or not?
Devon Tracey, Atheism Is Unstoppable (AIU) sent me. Don't stop!
Very interesting and enlightening!
Ps. The sound is a bit off imo
Intro is awesome. 👍✊💪
Insightful stuff. Well played.
SUBBED! AIU sent me over!
Mr Williams sounds like he has a lot of internal issues he has and is working on. That's progress.
It seems like there is an ad every 3 or 4 minutes. What is going on?
a grift
There is FAKE HATE everywhere . . . it's the $$$...If you have to HATE someone and the end-result is $$$, even though you REALLY don't, you'll take the $$$ every time, won't you? There's a thin line between love and hate is how that song goes and it's true when it comes to $$$$. Jefferson even had an affair with a black woman. In France. Henning I believe. There are only two reasons why to harbor HATE: POWER or WEALTH, not the hate in itself. It's always an reason to attain POWER or WEALTH, which is sometimes the same thing...but no one really HATES anyone. When was the last time anyone told you that they HATED you? I don't remember a time in my life that anyone has ever said that they hated me. I'm talking about STRAIGHT UP, not out of anger or emotion. Mr Marshall, I hate you! NEVER!
New sub recommended by AIU.
Atheism is Unstoppable sent me. Subbed.
Coleman "That's Right" Hughes
Coleman, when you were saying, in your talk the other day with another UA-camr whose name eludes me now, that you too have experienced microaggressions, for example, in the form of some black guy telling you that you are articulate. So I take it that you perceived that to mean "articulate, for a black person"? But did he actually say that? That would seem quite crass, and also untrue. I m white, and I ve been called articulate before (in my mother tongue), I don't see what the slight could be there, it's just a compliment, probably by someone who is a fellow appreciator of words. And you are also clearly articulate, not for a black person, but for anyone, really. So then, how could I ever pay a compliment like this to a black person without it being a microaggression? If they are literally better at sth than MOST people, irrespective of their skin colour?
@Lex Non Scripta well, what if THIS is what I appreciate though? Should I NOT express my appreciation, because somebody is black, because they might be offended, when ordinarily I would, with a white person? That seems quite tragic, for me, but mostly for them. Also, isn't this true for most compliments? I love your skirt, that's a great colour on you, and I especially love how it goes so well with your sandals! - Thanks. God, this is delicious, you are a great cook. - Thanks, you are welcome. I love reading your letters, you are such a good writer. - Thanks, my pleasure. You are so articulate, I love your way with words, and I love listening to you. - Thanks. Why on earth that would have to be an "awkward" thanks isn't obvious to me tbh, I m sure the complimentee wouldn't be a complete moron, and knows that they are fairly articulate, so then if they are generally awkward or have low self worth, here is an opportunity for them to rise above it and just graciously accept a (probably) honest compliment.
Hi. Just subscribed!! Devon Tracy, AIU sent me.
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I've been calling race a social construct for about 10 years or so. This is when I first realized that there is really no scientific classification for race. I've also made the statement on numerous occasions that people stereotype themselves. I'm white, though I've never taken pride nor really identified with that. I'm not denying, however, that others don't, or that, by them doing so, others aren't harmed. As I've seen attributed to the Buddha, all suffering is a result of ignorance.
My kids are mixed race; their mom is Jamaican by way of India. I don't know what that would be classified and that's at the crux of the issue. A lot of this, therefore, is familiar to my experience with them.
Finally, I find if fascinating that in world where the Left wants to erroneously claim everything is a social construct - gender, for instance - the one thing that truly is gets you ostracized when you attempt to say, as I learned growing up, that you're color blind.
I love how your mind works, Coleman. I'm in the same camp as you on most political issues and I find that promising. I still consider myself on the moderate Left, though, it's probably, if I'm honest, more of a Left-leaning Libertarian. I just want more intellectual honesty. What the data supports is as close as we're going to get to Truth. I'm so happy you have this platform and keep up the good fight.
Chaz Stone A great many things are social constructs. Race might just be the most dangerous of them all.
If only people would drop tribalism and this lie that we're all wired to favor people who look like us. I feel racial prejudice, separation, and tribalism is a deliberate narrative in American society..... perhaps it's cultural, but so many are being told that identity is more important than kindness.
As someone of mixed (white/First Nations) ancestry myself, I find it shocking how I'm seeing people on the LEFT currently talk about biracial or mixed people the same way white supremacists used to talk about PoC. Like our existence is the result of a transgression, or seen as "problematic". Clear evidence how western society is moving backwards, not forwards in how people are dealing with racism.
Humanism is an obvious answer, but people just don't seem to be cool with that whole "accept everybody" mentality. Americans constantly need a "them" to have prejudice towards.
Coleman is a young Thomas Sowell except for one thing. Sowell was a marxist at Coleman’s present age. Amazing how mature Coleman is at an age where it is so easy to be a marxist.
AIU sent me. As the ambassador of the white race he sends his regards.
Also I just subscribed to you.
So it seems as if Hughes is searching for a system that would counter some of the inequalities but one that would start and end with metrics but one that doesn’t effectively pander to racism. I have one, if anybodies interested?
Interesting discussion, but even if race is unreal, there is no doubt that certain people with features attributed to certain regions have less favorable life experiences as a group. For instance discriminating habits towards those with more west African features; wider nose, kinky hair and dark skin. How do you categorize people with these features but who are not native to Africa?
The daft thing is - probably all these appearance differences are evolutionary adaptations to environment. Long narrow noses to warm up cold air. Short wide noses to cool hot air. Whit skin for vitamin D absorption. Asiatic eye fold for asiatic winters.
All superficial.
Now culture s a different matter.
Could Clarence Thomas' ideas be possibly based on his intelligence and perspective, and not merely some reaction to his racial situation? Can these two intellectuals consider that Judge Thomas may be correct in many things?
Take a drink every time Coleman says "on the left".
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"That's right"
There's race the social construct and race the medically observed biological phenomenon
Precisely.
No, there is no biological race. There is only the human race. askabiologist.asu.edu/questions/human-races
Why was a People enslaved? It was Capital and it has become a class problem that involves the nation. Who am I, a descendent of slaves born in Birmingham, Alabama 1952. In my opinion it is a category mistake to consider the situation today in terms of race; the phenotypical expressions are there, but this is all superficial. If you bring people on ships from Africa to America, then think of that ship voyage as a marriage ritual. You were a bachelor and now you are married; that is a context change, so you can think of history as a meaningful context for the participants. We did not come from Africa as a people living today: we were born in slavery as a new People. People have a destiny and our destiny manifested as the Blues and Jazz out of hundreds of years of suffering.We are the most significant People of the modern world, not despite our pain but because of it: in other words all factical Dasein attunements, whether they know it are not, is influenced by our beats and rhythms .
Books reading suggestions for an understanding of history: Ontology - a hermeneutics of facticity by Martin Heidegger, Phenomenology of intuition and expression by Martin Heidegger, the Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler, and The Use and Abuse of History by Friedrich Nietzsche.
@@4TIMESAYEAR Therenis pools of associated genes that are historically, regionally, and culturally constrained. You are either a moron or lying to yourself if you argue otherwise.
@@tomithy6047 According to recent research they're not. And we all came from the first two people - even if you believe in evolution, you can't avoid that one.