The Real Reason Red Diesel Exists
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buy red diesel to run a generator and charge your electric vehicle with it .
True galaxy brain thinkin' right there.
Or i will stick to my regular diesel vehicle. None of that electrical bs.
In a world where electricity cost is higher than diesel, yes
@@The_Idaho_Cowboy Okay? They're just trying to find some loophole to use the red diesel, which you cant (legally) in your diesel road vehicle.
@@haves_ But you gotta drive to get the diesel, drive it back and buy, fill and store tanks. $ and time.
DOT- “why is there red fuel in your tanks?”
Trucker- “the devil done pissed in my tanks again! I’ve been almost going to church to stop this from happening!”
I know a trucker, and this is hilariously exactly what he'd say. _ALMOST_ going to Church.
Should dye your own fuel red and then flip it in them with receipts and make sure you pick stations with cameras...
also DOT: "Trailer wobbles independent of the attachment point and is held up by just the walls as it's like a floating floor.... Pass...."
They don't even inspect trucks very well...I know, I refused loading a trailer not long ago. Lucky the forklift didn't break it at the nose plate.
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Gotta run that red from the slip tank quietly into the fuel line so it won't show up if you get dipped.
dot pulls filters
mix used oil in it
Double triple lol they run UV light indicators
@FAT MAN SAM 1999 it's still considered running non taxed fuel, a $10,000 fine
@@gregg6474 lol, $1k/gal here
FYI, activated carbon filters out red dye. Another fun fact: UV light deactivates the red dye, too.
Another fun fact: You can buy UV lights for water purification.
The color doesn't matter anymore atleast here as they've added identifying chemical markers to check it and you can't get rid of them with no filters or UV, atleast where i'm from even tho they still use color.
@@cLokkiAnd were is 'here'?
Cat litter filters out red dye too 😮
Wrong! The dye is an ALCOHOL base. It can not be removed with charcoal or UV lights. It is called Xylene and is blended in at the Sym Tower.
in the beginning. it was high sulphur and low sulphur. the road diesel went through a process to remove more of the sulphur. never had a inspector look at the color of fuel. just check the exhaust.
I was at a tractor pull in western OK once when cops (can't recall if state, federal, or local) started opening gas caps and dipping into tanks. We had literally just covered the 4th Amendment in school so I went on a long monologue about how they'd better have probable cause or they needed to leave immediately and come back with a warrant for each and every vehicle. They left.
And yes, I eventually became a lawyer.
And everyone clapped 👏
@@thepatrickcrab Why on earth would I lie about such an ultimately inconsequential interaction with police? That doesn't even come close to the top of the list of interactions I've had or witnessed as a lawyer and occasional 1A and 2A activist and auditor.
@@lelandunruh7896 🤓
"No sir you can't use the chemically identical compressed ancient plant life in your vehicle. Only the one we can demand more money for is legal to use"
It’s actually not the same. It has a higher sulfur content amongst other things which makes is significantly worse for the environment. Hence trying to keep it off the road. It’s still stupid tho so
@@Jacobbuntno it’s the exact same, just dyed for detection, it exists to make farming cheaper cause less taxes on it
You're paying for roads. If you use them, pay for them. don't steal
@@thewhitefalcon8539 fuel taxes very rarely actually go towards roads
@@thewhitefalcon8539 you clearly don’t know what you’re talking abiut
Saw a VICE episode where a dude filtered the red diesel into clear diesel by pouring it through a bucket of cat litter and then selling it
My man
Came here to say this
Diesel gets dyed at the pump in Canada. A local service station got busted for not dyeing the farm fuel and selling it as road.
They put trace chemicals in it that vary, so it's basically impossible to fully scrub laundered fuel
@@Tlaloc_D1 They aren't gonna be doing a full laboratory analysis of your fuel for a random a traffic stop, they check to see if it's red or not
And that dye gets so easily washed out by a quart of good ol 5w-30 and nobody will ever know
Jerod, I like the way you operate.
@@xxmattopsxx3931 yessir. We get taxed enough just for these turds to pocket it.
Wait what? Tell me how?!
Wouldn't the cost of the oil offset the savings from not paying taxes?
There is more than just dye added, some trace chemicals which are difficult to remove are also added. To allow detection of laundred fuel
I knew a guy he had a false tank where the field cap is and he would keep regular fuel in that but his main tank would be off road diesel. And he had been checked several times Before they finally caught on to him. They caught him actually filling up the main tank
They actually caught him by monitoring who buys the fuel
They only LEGALLY PROVED it via what you said.
Hell, there was this guy in my old hometown who was a total douch and bought the red stuff 7 times out of 10 just enough of the normal stuff that he could plead negligence as it would be mixed could get him outa a ticket in court this worked until he pissed of the wrong sheriff and they hid a can of straight red fuel which ended up not only with the ticket for that check but all (and I found this out from his ex wife) 136 tickets going back almost 4 decades got brought back up and stuck. Dude ended up having to sell almost everything he owned and completely drained his retirement fund. It was kind sever but hey play stupid games win stupid prizes
@@michaeltimmerman9758 So the sheriff planted evidence, ruined a guy's life for monetary incentive, and you're applauding this?
@I Am Empyrean yes after blatantly breaking the law for close to 40 years I applaud them for finally punishing him regardless of the legality of how it was accomplished.
@@michaeltimmerman9758 you and your kind are the exact reason the 2nd Amendment is necessary
Pretty much all farmers use it in trucks even though it’s illegal
Farm fuel
Not illegal for farmers in trucks used for farm business...
No
@@kylancook3477 ya
@@leejohnson6173 depends on where you are. Here in Ontario, it's totally fine to run dyed diesel in a plated vehicle when you're on the farm, but getting caught running it down the road means massive fines. They'll even dip tanks in parking lots, then wait for the owners to come back to fine them.
I used to drive a 2012 Mack truck with federal government plates. We'd run red diesel whenever it was more convenient. But I've had my commercial truck tanks checked by DOT more times than I can count.
In NZ you have to pay nearly a grand for Road User Charges on disels so you can drive 10,000kms. Our cops be looking for kill switches on our odometers lol.
NZ is a Marxist satanic dictatorship like gulag Australia.
That's because diesel isn't taxed in New Zealand unlike most countries, so farmers can fill up at any gas station and not pay road user charges or "road tax"
Brown sugar exists in America because of taxes. They overtaxed “white sugar” so, someone added molasses and side-stepped the tax for a while.
Before you try to argue about it you should maybe google “The Dutch Standard was written into law in 1861 when Congress passed "An Act to Increase the Duties on Tea, Coffee, and Sugar."
wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened with rice in Asia
Sugar is brown in raw form. The bleach they add makes it white... Just like flour and rice. If you've ever been to a sugar plant or a sugar plantation you'd know. The brown comes from the bruising of the cane when it gets crushed.
Pretty sure molasses is taken out of the sugar making processed to create refined white sugar. So basically they weren't adding anything!
@@dianapennepacker6854 yes, but they didn’t just leave molasses in the sugar (which would be “raw sugar”), they actually added it back into the refined white sugar. The molasses content of brown sugar is much higher than raw sugar.
@@ob1coyote that makes zero sense, because that would by necessity leave you some sugar without any molasses.
Dye your fuel filters black and add dye to the red. Then when you get pulled over and your tank dipped and filter checked you can just say oh I run a home brew mixture. Saved my ass on many occasions
But how will cops ever get suspicious in the first place ?
…the dye has a specific radioactive isotope. That’s how the enforcement dept can confirm instantly if you are using it.
Do yourself a favour. Cut the bullshit on here. Get your facts right before you make an ass of YOURSELF
Or pay for the roads you use
@@thewhitefalcon8539yeah because all the other taxes we pay isnt enough apparently. And the roads are still shit.
@Deegs1776 they don't need a reson they pull u over and do what they want
I remember talking to someone that said there was a big agriculture convention somewhere in Canada that he attended and that inspectors were out in the parking lot. Checking everyone's diesel pickup trucks for red dyed fuel while the event was going on.
that's why you get a lockable gas cap :3
Illegal in the u.s.
Atleast the farmers wouldn’t have to worry since they are exempt
They will bust "Joe Six-Pac" for running red diesel in a road car/truck but they are really after long haul commercial truckers. When THEY get caught the fine is some serious numbers starting with $100 to $1,000 per gallon in the tank.
A foreman at work got a 10,000 ticket for running old red
Thats why you need to run through a filter to get rid of red dye
I had a 94 12v I bought of an ol’ farming buddy of mine, home made flatbed with two 100g tanks on it, one was for air and the other for red dye for the tractors in the feild. I ran a line under from the bed tank, under the cab to the fuel rail and had a switch in the cap for a little valve so I could switch back n forth on the fly. Go ahead dip the tank, ain’t gonna get yah nowhere. Never got caught once, miss that ol’ girl.
You fucking sold the damn thing?
I had an international scout that was set up with a fake tank on the side. The real tank was where the spare tire was. The guy who owned it before me gutted out most of the floor and installed a flat tank and ran the hoses from there. The tank could hold about 40 gallons. I miss that old truck a lot. It had the real four wheel drive.
I run a 12v as well for my daily. I get the old fuel they remove from cell phone towers each month. I’m sitting at around 7800 gallons at home with a solar powered pump setup, filtration, and I also mix in oil from my oil changes and cooking with it before filtering. Best free fuel I’ve ever had.
What about the fuel return line how did you keep from returning red diesel back to the main tank.
@@rogerjustice8835 You know that could’ve been a concern but I never noticed the issue.
I’ve heard before that red diesel also has higher sulfur content. Maybe that isn’t the case anymore though.
Yeah, not anymore. That used to be the case, but it’s all ULSD now.
Not any more. At least from the refinery that serves the pipline here.
All Diesel is the same.
It gets dyed red as it loaded in a truck for delivery.
Red diesel is just regular diesel with a dye added as they fill the tanker.
Not any more. It’s all ULSD
No. Red onroad diesel is light pink and clean. The high sulfur red "diesel" you are describing is home heating oil, which is RED and filthy.
We call it off road diesel or heating oil up in the North East
I literally was just about to comment that. Ive always known it as off road diesel
No. Home heating oil and offroad diesel ARE different. Off road is pink and clean and heating oil is red and full of sludge.
Heating oil and diesel fuel are very different.
@@cw93711 Yes , diesel is more refined, But a basic diesel engine will run on both without an issue! Maybe not on modern vehicles with computers/sensors/ DEF/ exhaust coolers . The red dye was added to help the DOT police check if truckers were using Non Taxed heat oil instead of taxable Diesel fuel .
@@ChingusTheOneAndOnly number 2 heating oil turns to a gel at around 5 degrees.
Would work in summer, especially if you cut it with some kerosene.
Wouldn't work when it was cold.
Fun fact: you can filter the dye out by passing the diesel through cat litter
which one and why does it work?
@@axolotl2494 We got ourselves an agent here boys no one say anything >_>
More fun fact: you can get rid of ridiculous taxes with the second amendment.
@@samuelschurman3762 I'm asking why does it work on a molecular level genius. I was an agent, I'd probably have the people and funds to find it out myself bruh
Good man .i said the same thing....your the only one here with common sence 👍
Won't be the first time red diesel has "found it's way", into my pickup truck.
I've always worried about this when I run my deuce and a half on used transmission fluid. Try to explain to an officer that it needs to be dyed red AND contain the chemical markers the testers look for... not just be red. But then again it's just as likely they will dip my tank and it will come out straight black so I'm likely to confuse them either way.
Thats a 100% illegal tank search
Breathing oxygen tax is next
In gulag Australia it's already reality!
Already the case in germany
that's called income tax
@@oxlip no income tax is taxes on the money you make, breathing tax is extra
No no, they plan to reduce carbon emitters. Not tax them.
run red diesel thru cat litter to get the dye out
there was a period where there was an actual difference. at some point, one of the pollution bills required diesel fuel for road use to have less sulfur. when that was implemented, fuel oil furnaces were still quite popular. it costs more to remove the sulfur and at the scale that refineries work, there would have been a noticeable drop in output volume vs input volume. at that point, there would have been considerable savings by diverting the "high" sulfur diesel to the dying line before the sulfur-reduction. as prices went up, fuel oil furnaces became too expensive to keep for most. with decreased usage, it no longer made sense to keep producing what they were, so switched to dying after sulfur reduction.
Here all the diesel is un-dyed, just taxed and priced differently. But heating oil is colored red with a very heat resistant paint and people get fines in the high ten thousands for being found out.
That word "illegal" means almost nothing now days.
And if the cops find red diesel in your on-road vehicle tank, you get a hefty fine, I believe it's like $10k last I knew. Some contractors run red in one tank and regular in the other on their tandem axle dump trucks so they can run off road when using the trucks on site. When they get on the road, they switch which tank they draw from.
In FL, AL, and GA the fine is $10/gallon with a maximum of $1K. The second time you get caught it jumps to $100/gallon with a maximum of $10K. I don't know anyone who has been caught a third time, but I know people who didn't learn after the 1st time. 😂
@giantmotorcyclejason 😆 I guess some people are slower learners than others are. I've known a lot of guys to run off road in their pickups where they don't ever get dipped, but haven't known anyone but farmers who are allowed to run red in their big trucks to do so.
I remember my welding teacher told me this back in Highschool
It might be taxed less, but they charge more for it at the pump. At least where I live in Commiforia. I use it for the tractor
The dye is added at the loading rack. When you input the info in the loading computer, it asks tax or untaxed.
I hauled fuel for years and that dye they use is some potent stuff if i remember right my trailer fully loaded with 12.5k gallons would only use roughly a cup of dye being mixed in
Functionally: yes.
Chemically? Nope.
Glad you know the difference in this rhetoric.
That literally 1) dilutes the fuel 2) causes combustion & side effect differences vs normal fuel.. and 3) causes different pollutants to be emitted
They didn't test this much at all. Especially not on all the various equipment out there. All of us in society/ the owners of the equipment are the test subjects.
@jonslg240 I mean, if they add a cup of something to 12.5 thousand gallons, you won't know the difference. If your engine is running poorly, you need maintenance my friend.
I knew a guy that owned and oil company, but they would also make heating oil also known as red diesel he would just fill it up at the factory, so there would be no way of knowing that he was doing it
Gotta have a half full bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil in the tool box for that roadside check
Mystery solved
I just run straight up waste motor oil as fuel lol
I know a guy who runs his car on moonshine. One for me, one for the car, one for me, one for the car...
We call it purple gas in Canada. It's not just diesel. You CAN put it in your vehicle IF its considered a farm vehicle.
It’s not much cheaper here. Yes it has 40¢ per gallon less tax, but price is only about 10¢ different unless you’re buying a tanker load at a time.
Diesel powered aeroplanes are my favourite.
Kerosene is not diesel.
Me with a fake gas tank that has a real diesel so the inspector won’t know
In Australia everyone pays the tax at the point of purchase but claims it back for off-road use.
That's how it was done at the truck stop I worked at. Known as "reefer" for the diesel powered refrigerators on trucks hauling perishables.
I read somewhere once that said people were using the filters from military surplus gas masks to filter out the dye.
Gate guards at Naval Air Stations used to stop cars and look under the hoods for purple dye around carburetors to see who might be 'appropriating' 115/145 AvGas for their hot rods.
That makes no sense because you can go to almost any small airport and buy aviation gas I used to go to the airport in Pueblo near springs near the Colorado springs military base and buy avgas and then go on base all the time to visit friends and never had a problem
It's about $0.15 cheaper per gallon.
Im saving more than a dollar using off road fuel.
its, about 20 cents cheaper where I live in Maryland.
You can actually get rid of the dye quite easily by running it through some kitty litter and some activated charcoal in it. The Bentonite removes the color agent for the smoke and the activated charcoal removes the color from the fuel. Put it in layers in a nice big funnel with mesh at the bottom and some fine cheese cloth over the mesh. Flush it first with some sacrifcial
Diesel to get rid of the dust (around a quarter to half a gallon), discard it or use for heating and presto! You now have a fuel scrubber.
At that point you might aswell just pay the extra couple cents
@@alexc6263 short term, yes. Long term, you may be able to save money doing this.
Ours is green in norway, but its still taxed but not as much. In rural areas theres just a slim chance of getting caught. Fines go from 2k usd and increases depending on the size of the vehicle
Until fish and game are out for their lunch break and see you fill up your truck with it lol
I'm here too early. The comment section hasn't went crazy yet.
It cant be chemically identical since they need organic pigments to make the red color. However when burnt, you will not notice the difference unless you have some lab grade equipment.
Did I ever put purple in my truck at the drilling rig and then head back to the shop now because that’s illegal😂
I heard that running it through a filter made from kitty-litter will get the red dye out. ;-)
Due to the fuel rip-off so prevelent these days I've used marked for the last two years in everything here.
Up here in Canada the fines are massive. Also as a fuel technician, the dye in dyed fuel is just so you can see it. There are other tests that will show you're using filtered dyed diesel.
Artificial DNA?
are those tests commonly used though? asking for a friend ;)
@@jimbothegymbro7086 If you use a lot of dyed diesel, eventually you'll get a visit from the gov. I worked at a primary fuel terminal, +50,000,000 Liters. We saw the gov inspector once/twice a year, because we injected the dye into the diesel.
@@jimbothegymbro7086 Where I live they apparently have two quick test vials that can trace some materials other than color. I don't have any proof. Just something one trucker friend said they can test.
No diesel fuel is dyed in New Zealand, easier for farmers and agricultural/industrial use.
You pay for a label you display in your windscreen with how many km you've payed for. If your Odometer is over your Km's displayed though, your fine is equivalent to how much over you are.
Some people had switches or would disconnect speedo drives, but you get caught doing that the fines massive
It was nice driving a diesel truck in high school and growing up in a farming/logging family. Always plenty of fuel on hand.👍😁
He have a checker board behind him. Illuminate 😂
We really gotta start pushing hard for 100% taxes...maybe then people will wake up and they'll stop allowing them altogether.
What the fuck are you talking about? Ban diesel? Is that what you're suggesting?
Around here only $.07 per gallon cheaper
It's not just for the money
I'm from North Carolina so I'm familiar with red dyed fuel. Here though it's NOT diesel it's K1 Kerosene that's dyed red for non commercial use
I drive a 18 wheeler and in South Florida when you get pulled over the first thing the DOT checks is they open your fuel tank (s) and check to make sure you don't have red diesel fuel in your fuel tanks.
I'd need to see a search warrant before I let someone dip my tank
@@bigdog2084 well if I put a lock on my gas tank that would probably required a warrant and if thay didn’t get one I’m sure the federal judge would love to know how that got the evidence
@@jeremybeaverson7167 Still don't need a warrant, again, you drive on the roads you're subject to inspection
@@richardmillhousenixon still sounds hella illegal just stick to state roads you’ll be fine
Lol nobody is going to dip you. However being in the industry I can say that unmarked DOT will sit at a red dye station and walk over with a 1k ticket once it goes directly into your fuel tank. No need stop you on the road anymore. Wised up to just pop you at the point of sale. Hell some just send the ticket in the mail, With a photo of you filling up with red dye. Then you can't warn anyone else DOT is there. Gets the point across. Super convenient and no need to stop you on the road anymore and dip your tank. 😂
Used to be a inspector that checked to catch farmer using farm fuel for non farm uses ie driving to and from town so throw a couple of bails of Hay in the pickup before going to town farm gas was died purple and so the inspector was referred to as purple pete and if he caught you the fine was expensive
oh, so you were the hall monitor in school and grew up to care about what fuel people use lol. ok karen...
this is incomprehensible
Someone oughta give every Purple Pete out there a Purple Heart vibe check.
Thats interesting, out here when red dye theft-free started showing up there was a littledick inspector that caught a few farmers.
They beat his ass in the middle of a corn field so bad he couldnt eat solid food, probably still cant if he's still alive.
Dad's crane company had a red diesel tank, and the feds dipped his tank once on a lowwwr engine and it had red fuel in it, the upper can have it cause it's a generator basicly but the lower is the road motor. He asked how much fuel was in the tank in at the shop and my dad lied and said like 20 gals and he never came and looked to see it was just topped off.
I work in the port of Los Angeles and use it in my Cummins , haven’t paid for diesel except for trips in about 8 years hahaha we just slide the host through the gate and off we go
Might be identical now, but I can tell you this for a fact: I was running the truck shop at a Ford dealership in 1995, and we had a brand new F-800 with a Cummins that the customer said smoked up the entire parking lot on cold starts. Ran fine, but smoked terribly when cold.
And it did, he dropped it off one night and we started it the next day and there were no mosquitos to be found for several blocks afterwards.
Ended up being off road red diesel fuel was the cause. He was using it illegally (obviously).
Drained it, put regular diesel in, no more smoking.
I used to work on a mine site where all the major contractors had different coloured fuels. Theft was huge.
they never hear of a locking fuel cap? I know they could just drill the tank but then they can press charges for property damage
@@jimbothegymbro7086 Mine site contractors are mostly construction type jobs. I was quarrying. All the equipment runs on diesel, thousands of litres a day. Somone would come by with their own tanker and drain your storage tanks. 10 grand worth of fuel gone overnight.
Fuels are taxed at the manufacturing plant and then collected when sold to repay the retailer
If you have a diesel around where I am. You can run this stuff all the time, and it will never even be a question.. love it!
Unless you use 1000s of gallons, it's actually more expensive then using green dye. We have generators for reefer trailers that can legally be used with red dye but it's not worth it because not enough is used to make the break.
We go through around 200,000litres of it on our farm in a year
Bentonite clay treated with an acid is called bleaching earth. Using heat and stirring, the dye will separate from the fuel. Allow the liquid to rest, and the dye will settle out.
I loved my "farm use" diesel.... but i sold it for a hybrid for double mpg's.
Laughs in hidden second tank
The dye can be filtered out via cat litter or charcoal
It's a myth that it's still high sulfur and it SHOULD be cheaper but unfortunately most stations hike the price to take advantage of the tax break and make more money on it they usually only make it a couple cents cheaper when it should be around 5% cheaper but station owners be greedy
Shoutout to all the AG and rural workers picking up their dates on Friday night with red diesel in their trucks.
Government entities use it as well. My local school district uses it in all their buses.
Where the fuck is it much cheaper? It's basically the same price where I am from.
Indian reservation near me sells it for about a dollar less per gallon than they sell the on road. So it's about $1.50 a gallon cheaper than a truck stop or regular gas station. 18 years ago it was 89 cents a gallon just letting you know so that knowledge can piss you off too.
Highway diesel is 4.29 here and off road is 5.99 so no one uses it here anymore
Used to be something like 40% cheaper years ago, but indeed these days it's almost same where I live.
Off-road also had a higher sulfur content until recently.
It has always had the same sulfur content.
home heating oil is what ur talking about which is different than off road diesel.
@@michael-dm2bv me or OP?
@@Team_Fortress2 Either one.
i have drained and cleaned tanks before.
Off-road diesel is NOT home heating oil.
There is confusion about this nationwide.
Unless you are paying a premium to supply your home heating burner with offroad diesel, when you get a tank of home heating oil filled it is not regulated to be on the road. You are not just avoiding the tax, you are "polluting" differently and "illegally" because heating regulations are not the same as "transportation" regulations.
Big buildings like in NYC might decide to heat in winter with heating rigs that use the same sort of crude oil the engines of cargo ships. Sulfur regulations need not apply and it is legal.
Off road is PINK, like the delicious pink version of its on road brother.
Home heating oil is RED.
If you cheat with off road, it will not nearly be as obvious as with home heating oil, which means you get charged with avoiding taxes and an ability to check for sulfur which means you used an illegal/unauthized fuel also.
Environmental charges.
Cargo ships are excluded from the legalities for obvious reasons.
Besides that, for logical reasons, it is good to know if ur putting home heating oil into a engine tank because it is "dirty", so to speak, and so will clog your engine filters quickly because the filtering system for home heating is different than for conventional diesels.
Heating systems have high lift suction pumps and a pump that don't care, and a nozzle the same, so to speak.
Not to say they are not precision engineered, but that their application is different and so is their engineering.
Hit a slurry of properly sized and viscous sludge at the nozzle tip and ur home burner could give a crap less.
But try the same with a diesel injector, not designed that way and you will be walking home..
If i have some used motor oil i didn't keep properly clean (for a centrifuge and potential diesel use) i just dump it in my HHO tank. That burner don't give a sh**.
Runs smoother in fact.
Viscosity is not as big a variable as with a diesel you purchase for transportation, because it is "weighed differently" before delivery because the batch is weighed with sludge mixed in.
Diesel proper will settle out nothing.
HHO (home heating oil) will buy you sludge depending on the allowed sludge that they are allowed to include that your burner could care less you added into the tank.
@@michael-dm2bv no its red as far as I am concerned. There is no such thing as pink diesel. When was fresh out of high school I worked for British Patrol company. I was stationed on a oil barge and when we separated what we needed to take off road fuel we had to put a dye chemical into it known as Red dye 40. When we sent the fuel to the refinery lots they end up filtering and doing other stuff to make the fuel more pure. I have no clue why you think it looks pink is beyond me. If I was you I would go get your eyes tested or get better glasses.
Our on road hydrovac trucks would use dyed diesel before they got plated
Yes, we know that off road diesel is dyed because regular diesel is significantly over taxed
Government doesn't realize their inflation made the fine cheaper then the tax. Out here people just pay the fine.
I have people bringing their injection pumps to me for repair that swear by red diesel. I just smile and nod.
It’s the same fuel the dye doesn’t interfere with the injection process. Off road equipment has emission systems on them now it’s all ULSD. If it’s from the fuel then it’s because it’s bad fuel.
@@diegaspumper8501 I've told countless people that, so now I just go along with them.
@Die Gas Pumper ULSD does screw up older pumps that weren't designed for it, and it used to have more sulfur. So they're half right, sorta😂
As a truck driver who used to haul reefer trailers, we no longer have red dyed diesel, it comes out normally. Unless it's marked as off road diesel or agriculture diesel which are extremely rare pumps to find so ultimately red dyed diesel is extremely rare now because trucking no longer uses it which was the primary customer and need for it
You could always get a transfer tank in the back of ur truck that your gonna “take home” and “use off-road” the feds will never know 🤫
Damn only if we had that in Australia then I'd be able to save so much on the hilux
Just dye your fuel black. There's literally no law against putting a gallon or so of ultra finely filtered waste oil in your diesel vehicle. Newer models probably won't like it, but in an old beater with no real emissions would take it fine. Tho honestly after delivery off-road diesel tends to be similar in overall cost, unless you buy a literal tanker worth. So unless you've got access to off-road for the cheap or free, dyeing it black prolly won't matter lol.
As a retired trucker, some DOT cops, treat black diesel the same as red. Their reasoning is, you've camouflaged the red dye, with used motor oil. Right or wrong, the diesel bears did it.
@@bruceparker9353 I'd fight it personally. I'd tell em prove it. Innocent until proven guilty. If they have no proof you win the court case. Yeah you do lose time and it is a pain in the ass, but fuck em.
@@vr6prodigy This was in the mid 90's. Don't know if they're still this strict. Guess they wanted to send a message.
@@bruceparker9353 I mean I get it. But in this day and age with at home filtration systems I do think it's far less likely. But without proof of that red I'd waste all the time they want. I still acknowledge that unless you've got a "hookup" on cheap or free red, it's definitely not cost effective to buy it for saving money. But if you were empty and the equipment tank had 30 gallons left, meh throw a couple g's of black in her and fill er up lol.
If you have dual diesel tanks like on the old 7.3s just fill one with red diesel and fill the other one to like half way and say you the tank with red for when your off-road and standard for road use
I identify as a legal red dyed diesel road truck driver.
Leave it out in a clear container in the sun for a day or two, and the dye is broken down by UV rays.
Or dont steal
@@thewhitefalcon8539 it’s not stealing
@@thewhitefalcon8539 I don’t steal, and obviously don’t ever think anyone should. I just happen to get several hundred gallons a month from cell phone towers when they swap the fuel out every 6 months. My 12v Cummins loves it. I mix it with my old oil and fluids, filter, and pump.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 thank you for the PSA, Karen.
@@blakelepine3423 Sure is. Using roads without paying for them is stealing.
A couple of empty atf bottles can get you out of a dip ticket. Atf can be run in your fuel as a fuel cleaner, just like seafoam.
Ye they pretty much stopped doing that here. Also the red diesel that i used to load was higher in sulphar...
Remember regulations on red diesel apply to vehicles for nonprofits and other vehicle in specific situations. Rail heavy duty trucks that will be on the road still use red legally in most areas. Regulations differ by area.
So thats why someone i know drives a deisel truck and has fuel delivered to his large tank that he also uses for his tractors on his farm.
I wasn't aware that planes used actual diesel fuel. I work at an airport and for planes with "diesel" engines, we just fuel them using Jet-A. The only thing we use the red fuel for is the fuel trucks and ground equipment.
Aircraft use kerosene. It's more refined than diesel. But a diesel engine can run on kerosene.
@@michaelkruk3415 yeah my friend at another airport said that they put Jet-A in the fuel trucks running fuel tank and it worked just fine even though it was a diesel engine. i just didnt know that aircraft diesel engines could use diesel as i was told it was just a special name for that engine type
how to go to jail in one tank of fuel
never heard of cops checking your fuel tank lol
"You dye your diesel to look like mine"
You can filter out red dye using cat litter, you end up with normal looking diesel
Cop “Sir is that diesel red?”
Me “Sir is that body armor level 4?”
Dudes in the UK run red diesel thru filters to get rid of the dye. Then they sell it.
I didnt know red fuel was a thing until i was diagnosing a fuel issue on a truck and noticed the "odd colored" fuel. Rhis was middle of 2022 when fuel prices were around $7/gal so it makes sense why i found it in his tank.