The Multi-Variable Chain Rule: Derivatives of Compositions

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  • @lolololol632
    @lolololol632 3 роки тому +100

    You literally saved me hours of work because your explanation is so intuitive and straightforward, and in such a small amount of time. I wish you the best in future.

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 роки тому +13

      So glad it helped!

  • @balakrishnakumar1588
    @balakrishnakumar1588 4 роки тому +71

    Why he isn't famous yet ?
    Great explanation sir.

    • @subhadeeppal917
      @subhadeeppal917 4 роки тому

      Really I just love your videos. 🤩

    • @NuclearPhysix
      @NuclearPhysix 3 роки тому +6

      He is famous. You may need to remember that not many people like or do mathematics, at least on UA-cam, you will not expect his followers to be the same number as some funny cat videos posts viewed by anybody else. He hi up there with MIT Herb Gross in my opinion

    • @AbhishekKumar-jg7gq
      @AbhishekKumar-jg7gq 3 роки тому +1

      Because he has a difficult accent which non native speaker can't understand

    • @aashsyed1277
      @aashsyed1277 3 роки тому +2

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      @tevinabeysekera6038 Рік тому +2

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  • @xiu8548
    @xiu8548 4 роки тому +3

    you r not only more handsome than my professor, but also give GREAT explaination! ! My professor gave lectures in 2 hours, you explain it in few mins.

  • @Lostwolf16
    @Lostwolf16 4 роки тому +24

    Content and quality of video is masterclass, hope to see a rise in quantity of other concepts as well. Thank you

  • @akshitk6818
    @akshitk6818 3 роки тому +2

    Really Awesome series of Calculus 3 and 4! Covers all the aspects that are usually taught in year 2! Your explanations are way better than my professor! Your videos have truly helping me in understanding better!

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 роки тому +2

      Glad you like them!

  • @yosafendrafendra7960
    @yosafendrafendra7960 3 роки тому +5

    Hello Dr Trefor please make a playlist about Partial Derivatives Equation, i think a lot of people will need it. thanks a lot

  • @immortalkarin
    @immortalkarin 2 роки тому +1

    Great videos man, you really have a very charismatic way of explaining math.

  • @vaisuliafu3342
    @vaisuliafu3342 4 роки тому +13

    these videos are so good... i hope you are dreaming big enough with your channel. This is the future of math education

  • @isakwatz11
    @isakwatz11 3 роки тому +1

    Impressively simple yet effective expanation!

  • @crimfan
    @crimfan 4 роки тому

    A very nice explanation of the total derivative.

  • @jitendermeena9480
    @jitendermeena9480 3 роки тому +1

    I loved the tree diagram. Great job sir 👍🏻

  • @continnum_radhe-radhe
    @continnum_radhe-radhe 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you sir 🔥🔥🔥

  • @discoveryofphysics9303
    @discoveryofphysics9303 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Sir. It helped a lot.

  • @hu900
    @hu900 2 роки тому +3

    I'm so happy that I found this, he explains it realy well. At 3.20 "If you only change w" should be "If you only change x". No problem though, it is clear anyway. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @doxo9597
    @doxo9597 3 роки тому +2

    I still don’t understand why it’s the sum of the two?

  • @frommarkham424
    @frommarkham424 4 місяці тому +1

    it's useful in machine learning

  • @realchatlabs
    @realchatlabs Рік тому +1

    Do I understand it right that the multi-variable chain rule the same as the single-variable chain rule (f . g)'(t) = f'(g(t))g'(t) with the difference only that you have a dot product between f'(g(x)) and g'(x) instead of a regular multiplication? (assuming that g(t) = [x(t), y(t), ...] to fit your examples).

  • @joyghosh3858
    @joyghosh3858 3 роки тому +4

    This is how math should be taught.. Just superb.

  • @mimstudent8662
    @mimstudent8662 3 роки тому +1

    I am from Bangladesh.U teaching method is very good.I can get easily understand.I saw many videos but u videos really well done.Thank u so much.Sir

  • @birdhanhansdah8580
    @birdhanhansdah8580 3 роки тому +2

    hhhha

  • @farhansadik5423
    @farhansadik5423 2 місяці тому +1

    absolutely brilliant explanation. massive respect to you sir!

  • @enzoys
    @enzoys Рік тому +1

    I mean, it looks like you can just substitute the t expressions in both x and y and have a normal chain rule

  • @joaomattos9271
    @joaomattos9271 Рік тому

    Amazing!!

  • @huijiang3051
    @huijiang3051 2 роки тому +1

    Good than common teacher ,bu also not clear and to some degree, is a waste of time and energy to watch

    • @easymathe4all6247
      @easymathe4all6247 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/0Ppc7AzJtvI/v-deo.html
      full concept of chain rule

  • @ugursoydan8187
    @ugursoydan8187 2 роки тому

    why we added the change due to y to change due to x? is there a proof of that?

  • @josephhajj1570
    @josephhajj1570 4 роки тому +1

    Mr what's the proof of this chain rule😘😘😘

  • @PD-vt9fe
    @PD-vt9fe 3 роки тому +2

    Great video as always. It helps me a lot to rebuild my math background. Keep it up!

  • @sahilafroj277
    @sahilafroj277 3 роки тому +1

    Beautifully explained sir.
    Love you.❤️

  • @bilalabbad7954
    @bilalabbad7954 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks

  • @keerthanadiga3781
    @keerthanadiga3781 4 роки тому

    why single independent variable chain rule has product of 2 slopes why they had to multiply the 2 slopes?? can anyone answer .... it would be a chance for others to think

  • @jankowalski8102
    @jankowalski8102 2 роки тому +1

    Great content! Greetings from Poland!

  • @sandunmunasinghe9469
    @sandunmunasinghe9469 3 роки тому +1

    you are the best and i really like your videos

  • @三點一四一五九二六
    @三點一四一五九二六 5 місяців тому

    Still don't understand, why can't I just use dw/dt instead of partial

  • @felixgomez5085
    @felixgomez5085 3 роки тому +1

    I have to tell you sir. You design usefull videos, with nice visuals. But you need to upgrade your sound device... It's mandatory at this level !!!!!!

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 роки тому +2

      i actually since have!

  • @mathadventuress
    @mathadventuress 3 роки тому

    hi dr trefor, can you please make a video or have you already on 2nd derivatives? say if z=f(x,y) and x=x(r,s) and y=y(r,s)...and we want to find the 2nd derivative of z with respect to x or y...i have an example in my book and i just dont understand it. i follow along the first derivative just fine. but then it says
    d/dr times the first derivative...which so far makes sense, but then it looks like it is doing implicit differentiation or something?
    please, thanks!

  • @muhammedalam1203
    @muhammedalam1203 Місяць тому

    one of the best explanations out here. Thanks Sir.

  • @honkhonk8009
    @honkhonk8009 3 місяці тому

    Love the video bro.
    Im a CS major and was struggling to figure out how chain rule worked for backrpopagation.
    The chain rule seemed easy enough on textbooks but i never understood what the dependency chart thing was, or how it would be extended to other examples
    This just explained it perfectly

  • @vct98890
    @vct98890 3 роки тому +1

    OMGG THANK YOU SO MUCH SIRR

  • @belemaayonoadu9219
    @belemaayonoadu9219 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant! I can't believe how you made this concept extremely easy!

  • @suvanshmahajan5902
    @suvanshmahajan5902 3 роки тому +1

    Can anyone tell me if this is calculus of two independent variable(x,y) and here both these variables are dependent on t, so basically both are not independent of each other.How???

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 роки тому +1

      Yes in this situation we still call x and y independent even if they are both functions of the same variable.

  • @ossahmadrezaazimikohnabi5108
    @ossahmadrezaazimikohnabi5108 3 місяці тому

    This wss the highlight of my day. 🎉❤😭😍

  • @billycheung5114
    @billycheung5114 Місяць тому

    Your video help me a lots !❤

  • @daumel98
    @daumel98 2 місяці тому

    I love you. Visualizing a dependency graph makes this so easy! I finally understand backpropagation in neural networks

  • @ahmedmohamedkhogle6100
    @ahmedmohamedkhogle6100 4 роки тому +1

    Nice keep going we need such those videos 🙂

  • @yoavmor9002
    @yoavmor9002 Рік тому

    Index notation and Einstein convention make this very easy to remember. But I don't think most folks are ready to display all variables as x⁰, x¹, x², x³, etc...

  • @gokulakrishnansaravanan7475
    @gokulakrishnansaravanan7475 3 роки тому +1

    u are really doing great sir. giving the real insight to mathematics .

  • @aravindhvijayanandan3010
    @aravindhvijayanandan3010 4 місяці тому

    Great exposition of a difficult concept, Dr. Bazett
    Subs from India

  • @nadernaysak
    @nadernaysak 2 роки тому

    You're a great teacher really, but your voice isn't clear and it sounds like a little noise there. Try a better mic. I WISH YOU THE BEST!

  • @abnereliberganzahernandez6337
    @abnereliberganzahernandez6337 Рік тому +1

    I joined

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  Рік тому +1

      Hey thank you so much! Glad to have you:)

  • @Darkmatterkun
    @Darkmatterkun 2 роки тому

    why does the theorem still hold true when the cross example proves it wrong

  • @amansingh-ww2qc
    @amansingh-ww2qc 3 роки тому +1

    Best maths teacher ever

  • @Chris-ng9zi
    @Chris-ng9zi 2 роки тому +1

    You are an excellent teacher!!! Keep up the good work.

  • @giuseppecammarata7528
    @giuseppecammarata7528 Рік тому

    Thank you! Would it have been an error if I had written the symbol of the partial derivative in lieu of dx/dt and dy/dt (second row in final conclusion)?

  • @Avinash_Avee
    @Avinash_Avee 2 роки тому +1

    Tnqsm 🙏

  • @edwarddi3833
    @edwarddi3833 4 роки тому +1

    nice video, very informative! Thanks!
    however, what about the second derivative of f(x(t), y(t))?

    • @fullfungo
      @fullfungo 2 роки тому

      Just take the derivative twice

  • @dinigi
    @dinigi 4 місяці тому

    Honestly, I don't really care about how and why this works on a fundamental basis. I am just looking to apply it correctly..

  • @sharifullahdanish4480
    @sharifullahdanish4480 2 роки тому

    As you said we can directly solve it via putting the values of the x & y, so if you would do it, we will appreciate it.
    thanks..

  • @ronycb7168
    @ronycb7168 Рік тому

    Thanks ... Also the chain rule looks a lot like the total differential divided upon dt

  • @Nik-qh7cq
    @Nik-qh7cq 3 роки тому

    What if we have f(x,y) and a g(x,y) = (n(x), m(y)) and we need the derivative in respect of x for f(g(x,y))

  • @slowsatsuma3214
    @slowsatsuma3214 4 роки тому +2

    I love you

  • @EfremTesfaye-cz7tl
    @EfremTesfaye-cz7tl 6 місяців тому

    I get this video after a period of time but i regret about the time before. really i appreciate you continue don,t stop here .

  • @hakaneskici2771
    @hakaneskici2771 Рік тому

    Thank you for the explanation sir

  • @salvatoregiordano9050
    @salvatoregiordano9050 2 роки тому

    Excellent video and explanation sir! I really appreciate this. Do you have any idea where I can find a video that proves the formula for the chain rule you described? Thank you so much!

  • @khushinegi1363
    @khushinegi1363 3 роки тому +1

    What about the higher order derivatives in two variables?

    • @khushinegi1363
      @khushinegi1363 3 роки тому

      How will we calculate them?

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 роки тому

      Well we mostly do what we just did, but twice. So if you can do, say, the partial with respect to x then just do that again to get the second partial with respect to x.

  • @omer7895
    @omer7895 2 роки тому

    What would be the gradient of w?

  • @abdullahmohamed2083
    @abdullahmohamed2083 3 роки тому

    Thank you thank you sooo informative

  • @HasanRaza-pe2sy
    @HasanRaza-pe2sy Рік тому

    Great content. In india many of us study this in grade 11 and 12. As how i know as i am in 12 currently

    • @arpityadav.832
      @arpityadav.832 Рік тому +1

      burh it is of multivariable its teaches in college 1st . from which board r u?

  • @aditube8781
    @aditube8781 2 роки тому

    AMAZING

  • @billhopkins8330
    @billhopkins8330 4 роки тому

    Great explanation!!

  • @altuber99_athlete
    @altuber99_athlete 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanation! The pauses were on time, but maybe talking a bit slower can help the viewer to grasp the concept under discussion. Regardless, nice job!
    One question.
    In your example, we had "w = f(x,y)" (and particularly "w = x^2 y"), where at the same time "x = g(t)" (and particularly "x = 2 t + 1") and "y = h(t)" (and particularly "y = t^3").
    That's fine, but I have a slightly different example. Suppose we have a function "w = f(x,y)" (without knowing any particular expression for "w"), where at the same time *"x = g(u,y,t)"* (not any specific expression for "x") and "y = h(t)" (not any specific expression for "y"). *Would the derivative "dw/dt" still be given by "∂w/∂x · dx/dt + ∂w/∂y · dt/dt, or would the formula change?* Notice the main difference between your example and mine is that in yours, "x = g(t)", while in my example, x = g(u,y,t)" where "u = i(t)".