Something about bulky Thundurus destroyed Wolfe "I won a regional with it" Glick's teambuilding ethos for three consecutive years. Unlearning "stupid hyper defense" has been a major struggle of his, and that type of team tends to do nothing a lot of the time in more developed metas. It's a tough change, because everyone loves watching the opponent's Lando-T do 6% damage to your Stakataka with a 4x super effective earthquake.
It's especially annoying to me because Banette's counterpart Dusclops got a normal evolution back in Gen 4, while Banette didn't, and later Banette got a Mega but now that's gone. Not only should Mega Banette have been a normal evolution, Banette itself really should've gotten the normal evolution treatment back in Gen 4 just like how Dusclops got Dusknoir. (Ironically Dusknoir on the other hand is considered the most unnecessary evolution of DPP).
@@markflay7152 Just like with Blissey and the introduction of Eviolite making Chansey a better general tank, so too does Dusclops reap the rewards of a mostly unnecessary evolution.
@@HaHaHaHolowence Can't learn Revenge. Just another Pokemon lacking a certain move that it should have learned. Others being Roserade,Koko,Bulu,Greedent and Zamazenta.
Old comment but I think that the Normal/Ghost type fits more since a doll is "normal" and a possessed doll is not a long stretch since a ghost possing things is iconic, besides the type was completely unique until Legends Arceus and has potentially 4 immunities (with a ability like levitate).
dark types original meaning wouldn't fit it. dark type in japan meant something more along the line of "Thief", "Trickster", or even "Villain"(as in a comic book villain). Banette is more just straight up evil which is why it probably didn't get the dark typing
Yep. Most Pokemon didn't care very much, or got mildly useful coverage. A few were buffed immensely (things like Breloom, Gengar, Metagross, etc) and an handful were nerfed into the ground and few worse than Banette.
This just shows how a lot of Gen 1-3 Pokemon can benefit from having their stats reworked to be more like the Pokemon after the physical/special split and provided some decent coverage as well.
Yeah, the physical/special split did hurt it but honestly that isn't Banette's real problem because what the physical/special split meant for it at the end of the day is that it had to switch from an 80 bp to a 70 bp move. Definitely not good, but not horrible. Banette's bigger problem was a shallow offensive movepool at the time so it had no coverage, a problem it still mostly has. It would be great if it could learn Superpower for instance but even then it would be dogged by it's core problem. Banette, like other mons such as Absol and Rampardos is the unfortunate combination of both frail and slow. Even if you have good offensive stats, if you are frail than at least you have to be fast (Kartana, Raikou, etc) and if you are slow than you at least have to be tanky (Tyranitar, Gyarados, etc). Being both slow and frail has never worked out for any mon in competitive, and Banette is no exception as not even prankster destiny bond could save it in SM. So yes while the physical/special split did hurt it, its core problems of poor offensive coverage and the killer combo of slow and frail would have seen to its downfall anyway.
I think it would make it good in RU if it ever gets its mega back. It really just needed that strong stab move which will allow it to be useful without killing itself, it would have a niece in whatever tier it would end up
Maybe they were created in different development periods and then connected for the final product like they did for the squirtle line. If I remember correctly, Shuppet got its name from an alternate design of Wobbuffet which was found in a GSC prototype. Eclipse_tt datamined this info, so Shuppet was probably created WAY earlier.
10:30 "Gen 7 nerfed destiny bond so it couldn't be used repeatedly" -- uhh, that's exactly what gave mega-banette its niche. The DB effect stayed on until the next time the *user* moved, so you'd use an attacking move the following turn and move second (due to not being boosted by prankster), so a faster opponent either had to attack first while the effect was still on (leading to a double-KO), or switch (forgoing their sweeping opportunity *and* taking a meaty hit on their switch-in). The only real way out of it was priority of your own (to outspeed the first-turn DB), being slower on the second turn, or killing banette with indirect damage (e.g. toxic).
Imagine if Bannette got the "Beedrill" treatment. Lose Special Attack n invest in lots of Speed for both Banette and Mega Bannette, then they would had been much better
I always hated when they did mixmaxed pokemon (looking at you Ghost-Rider Calyrex)... Except when it was a mega for a shitty mon, like Beedrill and, well, Banette. Here's hoping they bring it back and give it Poltergeist, at least it'll be better in Natdex.
@@GamerGhostRider but would poltergeist actually help tho? Its still frail and not that fast so it can easily be taken down,if it doea get poltergeist and is in gen 8 it will still be untiered since regular banette is still useless
Landorus is super boring and has exactly 2 useful sets on each generation. It's only good because it's the only non-SR-weak pokemon with access to Intimate and decent defensive stats to use it with. On the offensive side it's completely outclassed by Mamoswine and Excadrill, and on the defensive side Hippowdon is arguably better. Don't expect that much beyond a recap on how it's probably the most overrated pokemon ever since DPPt Electivire.
Mega-Banette is one of my favourites. Youd expect a Prankster Pokemon with a monstrous Attack Stat would kick ass. It's so weird how it does so much but accomplished nothing. I guess that's why I resonate so well with it 😂
This isn't even really power creep, just poor design out of the gates w/ not enough competition to show it. Adv UU is notoriously an open ended and forgiving metagame.
@@fernandojara5837 I doubt the Latis mega will get much talk. Unless the mega increased their speed, just use life orb Latias/Latios over there megas. Aside from Knock off and life orb recoil, this has no downsides
@@webbowser8834 90 base power with recoil is nowhere near as good as what other types get. Play rough has the same base power and a chance of lowering the target's attack with no recoil, blaze kick has 85 BP plus a high critical hit rate and a chance of inflicting burn with no recoil... If wild charge had lower accuracy instead of recoil and maybe even a chance of inflicting paralysis, it would probably be much better
Other than all of the physical attackers who lost shadow ball (mentioned in a previois comment) and special attackers who lost elemental punches (Alakazam, Jinx, Typhlosion).
I guess it's alright. It's fast and has fighting STAB but is also totally outclassed by Terrakion and Infernape in every single way aside from fast knock off uses.
@@RuthlessXD but let's not forget 5am power creep did relegate it to UU with no day light savings in sight. Maybe next season it can make a come back in 2021
Banette’s mega evolution certainly fits with the spooky vibe that Banette has though some may have expressed said mega evolution form should’ve been a new evolution for the ghost, much like how dusclops got a new evolution in the form of dusknoir.
trying to sucker punch banette just gets you will-o-wisped, it's got a good match up with everything that relied on sucker as their only move to hit ghosts, like hitmontop & mega kangaskhan, it's flaw is more it just being bad
More like: Unfortunately Knock off and pursuit exists. He also meets all three of the requirements for a bad pokemon: Frail, Slow and with undeerwhelming offensive power.
It's a shame that Mega Banette has a huge 165 attack stat but no defences or speed to back it up, it is my favourite mega evolution and I use it a lot although it's not that good :'(
I really hate what they did with some megas, and Banette was one of them. They literally could've just given it 10 more attack, 10defense, 30 special attack and 50 speed. That's ALL they needed to do. Why the hell does it need 165 attack????
@@doubleace11554 doesn't matter, there's also gourgeist, who's faster than banette, and trevenant, who has an actual useful ability. both also have useful secondary typings and more versatile movepools. banette sucks.
@@wesuckatgames9549 We can also consider Sw/Sh has been given weird coverage to old mons, even though the move wasn't learnable for it in past gens (Venusaur with Earth Power, Raikou with Scald, Psychic fangs to Lycanroc-Dusk, Close combat for everyone and their mother), so it wouldn't be weird to see something like elemental punches, swords dance and/or Play rough on Bannete.
just imagine mega banette in gen 8 with these movesets: Poltergeist Cotton guard ( Gen 5 DW ) / will o Wisp Shadow Sneak knock off or Poltergeist Taunt knock off Rest / Cotton guard ( gen 5 DW ) / Will o Wisp
There’s no Megas... I think a straight evolution with a normal/ghost typing and a new ability maybe something cool like poison heal, magic guard, or guts to boost its priority moves in sucker punch, shadow sneak/ quick attack. Stats for the evolution would be similar to its mega but 30 less in attack to be put into speed and/or hp, also w an evolution bannette would be able to use eviolite
OMG FINALLY This is one of my favorite Pokémon of all time and the first ever Mega I used in VGC I loved using it and one some tournaments with it too I absolutely love it’s design and Lore! Thx FSG for this video
My Banette helped beat the elite four in ultra moon. I really wish it was made stronger, I love Banette and it is INCREDIBLY underrated. At least it has some plushies, like the Sitting Cuties. Banette is one of my favorite pokemon
I have destroyed teams many times with Mega Bannette. You have to really gamble and use mind games like pretending you have destiny bond, or pretending you have it, then your opponent learns it doesn’t have it, but then it turns out you did have it. It’s amazing when it works.
It’s always a shame when a Pokémon with such an awesome design has terrible stats. 😩 Banette and Mawile are two of my all-time favs, but good lord do they suck in battle. 😭
Banette in gen 3: Wanna play with my STAB physical Shadow ball Banette in gen 4-5: My shadow claw is weaker than the average team flair grunt Banette in gen 6-7: Finally a mega! I'm relevant again Banette in gen 8:
@@M3rtyville Yep completely agree but hey at least it was decent in RU in gen 6 and in NU in gen 7 (unlike Mega Abomasnow who actually fell to PU in gen 7).
In my opinion, some Megas could have easily been its Pokemon's evolution design wise, especially if it's a single stage Pokemon to begin with (stats would need to be adjusted, of course). For me, Banette is a prime example for that.
poltergueist may be useful to him if he comes to gen 8. with sash, sneak, sucker punch and trick room he may advance some game states and support some teams. niche, but its something.
Thanks patreons and FalseSwipeGaming for turn this video possible. Because Banette is my favorite Ghost-Type Pokémon and Mega-Banette is my favorite Mega Pokémon. I have history with this Pokémon, i used Banette to beat Pokémon Emerald and used it to squash Anabel's Alakazam in the Battle Tower. In gen 5 i used my alternative Banette with 252 Sp Attack, 252 Speed, Timid nature, Item: Choice Specs, Moves: Shadow Ball for primal ghost STAB, Thunder for trick Politoed, Hidden Power Fire for catch off guard switich Scizor and Ferrothorn and Trick for fooled Chansey and other stallers. Not the best set, but have his nich. I make many Sweeps with my Special Mega-Banette in Gens 6 and 7 with Shadow Ball, Thunder, (because Banette not great Sp Attack stats) Substitute and Calm Mind, 252 Speed, 186 Sp Attack, 70 Deffense, Timid nature. A very good set to use with Sticky Web and i have the most normal set with Shadow Sneak/Sucker Punch, Gunk Shot, Will-O-Wisp, Taunt/Destiny Bond with 252 Speed, 252 Attack and Jolly nature. I buffed Mega-Banette gave him 97 base speed, acess to Close Combat, Stone Edge, Elemental Punches, Play Rough, Swords Dance and Hone Claws, and for final create a new STAB siganture move for Banette the Cursed Needles when Banette use this claws like needles with 120 base power, 100 acuraccy, Physical, lowering Banette's Def and Sp Def Stats. And this is i buffed Banette, is a shame Banette is more offensive on Special side thank to the fact it's have more covarage with special moves and the only buffed move buff Sp Attack and Sp Defense.
My Hoenn ghost boi deserved better, man. But thanks for covering it. Honestly, if they just gave regular Banette Prankster, that would go a long way to keeping it on an even keel.
Banette has been my favorite pokemon for at least 10 years.. really dissapointed in banette's competitive viability :( I was hoping for a decent buff or a type change. I played rom hacks were banette was either Ghost/normal (because of the doll aspect), or Ghost/Dark (because of the hatred).
I don't care if Banette is abandoned by Gamefreak, I love this little monster with all my heart. I literally never abandon it and always revisit It in my copy of sun and moon, I've been using her for a bunch of generations.
Got to give the patrons credit for choosing a screwed up toy with a magnificent horror movie backstory during December instead of an ice type or something like Sawsbuck. Of course it would take someone like Wolfe Glick to bring Mega Banette to a bit of prominence
if banette was my doll I would have cherished it especially when it became a pokemon... but at worst it would just stay in my closet with occasional visits from my cat invading my room
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Since you are doing some G3 pokemon now, why not showing us how good was Castform actually?
Okay, spooky boi is a good choice. Honestly these past few have been some of my favourite but........ please I'll never give up How GOOD was Mr. Mime ACTUALLY?
I used Mega Banette through all of Gen 6. In particular during the Halloween Party online competition I ran Imprison on it because every legal Pokemon was a ghost type.
1. Give banette a evolution 2. Give it the normal or dark type 3. Get rid of the majority of its special attack and invest it in other stats 4. Give it poltergeist 5. Give it a good ability like adaptability prankster etc etc Now you’ve got one of the best ghost types
Love the quote “just stupid wolf hyper defense”
wolfe*
Something about bulky Thundurus destroyed Wolfe "I won a regional with it" Glick's teambuilding ethos for three consecutive years. Unlearning "stupid hyper defense" has been a major struggle of his, and that type of team tends to do nothing a lot of the time in more developed metas. It's a tough change, because everyone loves watching the opponent's Lando-T do 6% damage to your Stakataka with a 4x super effective earthquake.
Idk y but that quote reminds me of zamazenta
@@147CT "All my friends are dead" Syndrome.
@@CheesyCore you mean wolfey VGC
A threatening doll being KO'ed by a small bird is just as embarrassing as Regigigas' best partners being a bird in a diaper and a penguin.
And the one Pokémon that finally makes Regigigas sort of viable is a floating bong with Doug Dimmadome's hat. XD
I mean a small purple rat can punch the God of earth, a Godzilla dinosaur into Oblivion so... Welcome ti pokemon
A penguin?
@@agentblackbird9435
Either the Piplup line or Eiscue (spelling).
@@laughingfurry Eiscue wasn't in Gen 7
"It dropped of a cliff and hit every rock on the way down." whoever writes these lines should get a raise.
That's a pretty old line, but it's still very humorous! 😄
BKC, He has a yt channel too
ah yes banette. The “should’ve had its mega been a normal evolution Pokémon”
wow, never thought about that, now really really wish that had been the case , '.' also 69 likes on this
It's especially annoying to me because Banette's counterpart Dusclops got a normal evolution back in Gen 4, while Banette didn't, and later Banette got a Mega but now that's gone. Not only should Mega Banette have been a normal evolution, Banette itself really should've gotten the normal evolution treatment back in Gen 4 just like how Dusclops got Dusknoir.
(Ironically Dusknoir on the other hand is considered the most unnecessary evolution of DPP).
and then get a mega evolution
@@scraftyisthebest1309 nah without duskinor, dusclops would not be as good as it is currently in doubles
@@markflay7152 Just like with Blissey and the introduction of Eviolite making Chansey a better general tank, so too does Dusclops reap the rewards of a mostly unnecessary evolution.
Gamefreak: Bannete is a doll that was abandoned by its owner and now seeks revenge
Also Gamefreak:
It's also unable to learn Revenge.
@@HaHaHaHolowence Extra Big Oof
@@HaHaHaHolowence Can it learn Payback?
@@stetsonherrick8090 Yes, it can.
@@HaHaHaHolowence Can't learn Revenge.
Just another Pokemon lacking a certain move that it should have learned. Others being Roserade,Koko,Bulu,Greedent and Zamazenta.
M-Banette should've gained the dark typing imo. It just screams ghost/dark, plus its one of the best physical attacking ghost types out there
Old comment but I think that the Normal/Ghost type fits more since a doll is "normal" and a possessed doll is not a long stretch since a ghost possing things is iconic, besides the type was completely unique until Legends Arceus and has potentially 4 immunities (with a ability like levitate).
EXACTLY
dark types original meaning wouldn't fit it. dark type in japan meant something more along the line of "Thief", "Trickster", or even "Villain"(as in a comic book villain). Banette is more just straight up evil which is why it probably didn't get the dark typing
Plus stab sucker punch on slow pokemon would be amazing
@@ModernGameArmy dark type in japanese is literally called "evil type"
Banette: The prime example about how the physcial/special split wasn't all sun shine and rainbows.
You mean Sunny Days and Ho-Ohs? 😁
Yep. Most Pokemon didn't care very much, or got mildly useful coverage. A few were buffed immensely (things like Breloom, Gengar, Metagross, etc) and an handful were nerfed into the ground and few worse than Banette.
It was a necessary move, but not everything benefitted.
This just shows how a lot of Gen 1-3 Pokemon can benefit from having their stats reworked to be more like the Pokemon after the physical/special split and provided some decent coverage as well.
Yeah, the physical/special split did hurt it but honestly that isn't Banette's real problem because what the physical/special split meant for it at the end of the day is that it had to switch from an 80 bp to a 70 bp move. Definitely not good, but not horrible.
Banette's bigger problem was a shallow offensive movepool at the time so it had no coverage, a problem it still mostly has. It would be great if it could learn Superpower for instance but even then it would be dogged by it's core problem.
Banette, like other mons such as Absol and Rampardos is the unfortunate combination of both frail and slow. Even if you have good offensive stats, if you are frail than at least you have to be fast (Kartana, Raikou, etc) and if you are slow than you at least have to be tanky (Tyranitar, Gyarados, etc). Being both slow and frail has never worked out for any mon in competitive, and Banette is no exception as not even prankster destiny bond could save it in SM.
So yes while the physical/special split did hurt it, its core problems of poor offensive coverage and the killer combo of slow and frail would have seen to its downfall anyway.
Banette is basically toy story
...but it ends you for abandoning him.
Toy Story's edgy reboot
He tortures toys just for fun
For me more than toy story is more like one of the horror movies of dools
Or moreso Chucky
"Wait, that banette's got leftovers? I could've sworn I smelled a rawst berry on it..."
I wish bannette was in sword and shield so I could use poltergeist with it and imagine mega bannette with poltergeist from a 165 base attack
And since it has STAB the damage would be disgusting.
Imagine Mega anything...
Or at least so mega Banette wouldn't suck in natdex ;_;
I think it would make it good in RU if it ever gets its mega back. It really just needed that strong stab move which will allow it to be useful without killing itself, it would have a niece in whatever tier it would end up
@@blackdot105 id rather have Megas than this stupid dynamax gimmick
Banette: Not only abandoned by a child, but also abandoned by Gamefreak themselves.
It fits the lore. Luckily for the lore, Banette will never be good.
Noooooo, they don't deserve this.
There is over 850 Pokémon
Person person. Not even the Mega Evolution gave it justice.
But how can banette have that backstory when it evolves from shuppet
That always confused me as well!
Maybe they were created in different development periods and then connected for the final product like they did for the squirtle line.
If I remember correctly, Shuppet got its name from an alternate design of Wobbuffet which was found in a GSC prototype. Eclipse_tt datamined this info, so Shuppet was probably created WAY earlier.
Well there is the whole boy turning into Kadabra entry. Maybe some Banette originated from Shuppet while others were born from the abandoned dolls.
Because the pokdex entries are made by 10 year-old kids
@@carlosx8603 this.
It breaks my heart seeing how bad my favorite Pokémon actually is.
At least yours is better than my Walrein
At least yours weren't outclassed by Incineroar. (Houndoom)
It's only not very viable in competitive play, it's not "bad"
Walrein became bad in Gen 6 and beyond. Banette only had one generation to be good.
my favourite yanmega's fine but i cant stop thinking about what if it's stats are a little bit better or has access to hurricane
10:30 "Gen 7 nerfed destiny bond so it couldn't be used repeatedly" -- uhh, that's exactly what gave mega-banette its niche. The DB effect stayed on until the next time the *user* moved, so you'd use an attacking move the following turn and move second (due to not being boosted by prankster), so a faster opponent either had to attack first while the effect was still on (leading to a double-KO), or switch (forgoing their sweeping opportunity *and* taking a meaty hit on their switch-in). The only real way out of it was priority of your own (to outspeed the first-turn DB), being slower on the second turn, or killing banette with indirect damage (e.g. toxic).
Old but up
My thoughts exactly. Banette is one of my fav Megas, and this change, imo, was a good change for it. For this reason, my speed IVs are shot lol
Imagine if Bannette got the "Beedrill" treatment.
Lose Special Attack n invest in lots of Speed for both Banette and Mega Bannette, then they would had been much better
Then give it Adaptability and see how much damage shadow sneak can do lmao
Personally would have preferred is it lost Special Attack to then boost its pathetic defenses more to be functionally different than Mega Beedrill.
It's coverage would still be pretty bad
Only gets ghost and dark physical moves that are useful
I always hated when they did mixmaxed pokemon (looking at you Ghost-Rider Calyrex)... Except when it was a mega for a shitty mon, like Beedrill and, well, Banette. Here's hoping they bring it back and give it Poltergeist, at least it'll be better in Natdex.
@@GamerGhostRider but would poltergeist actually help tho? Its still frail and not that fast so it can easily be taken down,if it doea get poltergeist and is in gen 8 it will still be untiered since regular banette is still useless
I'm glad we're going with the Nightmare before Christmas vibes by going over literally Oogie Boogie.
Oh, darn, that nickname for Banette didn't even cross my mind, even when it's perfect for it.
Banette evolution but it's bug/ghost
@@Duskool bug because of the ending?
@@microwave8931 yeah! Could be interesting to have another bug ghost, of course if it's stats are tinkered a bit to not suck so much
@@Duskool wait, there's another bug ghost?
Also, I'm calling banette oogie boogie from now on because I can
@@microwave8931 Shedinja
scizor, excadrill and bisharp were all 40+ minutes long, so im expecting a landorus/lando-t 6 hour documentary soon
Man, I can't watch a 3 2-hour movies in a form of marathon, because I'm not an all nighter. Then this suggestion really doesn't feel me so good
Landorus is super boring and has exactly 2 useful sets on each generation. It's only good because it's the only non-SR-weak pokemon with access to Intimate and decent defensive stats to use it with. On the offensive side it's completely outclassed by Mamoswine and Excadrill, and on the defensive side Hippowdon is arguably better. Don't expect that much beyond a recap on how it's probably the most overrated pokemon ever since DPPt Electivire.
The snorlax remake Will be a full fledged movie, gen 2 alone would be half the video
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 What are you talking about? Landorus is the best support to ever exist, there is always room for a Landorus in your team
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 same for gliscor who have a better support set with tailwind, viable recover, Taunt...
Mega-Banette is one of my favourites.
Youd expect a Prankster Pokemon with a monstrous Attack Stat would kick ass.
It's so weird how it does so much but accomplished nothing.
I guess that's why I resonate so well with it 😂
I disagree, unlike banette you literally save eill a zepelli, and assisted the joestar family even after death. You are a legend, speedwagon
Don't talk like that speedwagon you are everyone's waifu
You have to fight that feeling!
“Unfortunately, yeah you thought we forgot about that” lmao I was hoping for one video without it but nope
I personally think Banette is a cool Pokemon in my opinion
@@megaball-ps8tq kinda but I didn't say anything about that?
Starime
Banette in the game: "you got PRANKED"
Banette in the manga:
Rip pokemon silver
F in the chat
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wut happend to banette in the manga? sorry i dont read the pokemon manga
@@rapalyn8889 spoilers
I think it lost against
Red's Gyarados
@@rapalyn8889 the question should be "what happens to who faces banette"
I hope you like pokemon gold more ;)
How POWER CREPT was my poor boy ACTUALLY ?
Spoopy Boy proved to be spoopy, actually.
It hard for a Pokémon to succeed when they have poor Bulk and Speed and meh Attack Stats
This isn't even really power creep, just poor design out of the gates w/ not enough competition to show it. Adv UU is notoriously an open ended and forgiving metagame.
He was unfortunately set up to fail. The prankster nerf was the nail in the coffin before they decided to just not let him in the game at all
I'm very surprised about how early this was uploaded. But I welcome it as it is one more mega down from the list.
How much left?
@@raythehomie123 glalie, manectric, audino and the latis.
@@fernandojara5837 I doubt the Latis mega will get much talk. Unless the mega increased their speed, just use life orb Latias/Latios over there megas. Aside from Knock off and life orb recoil, this has no downsides
If it is uploaded this early in the day you know what that means ...... DOUBLE UPLOAD YAY
@@relaxn3918 well, mega latias had a defined niche in gen 7 OU as a stored power abuser, it has something at least.
God, man don’t remind me how they finally made a strong physical ghost stab the generation AFTER they ended megas...
I need a moment to cry
Meanwhile luxray and electiwire are still waiting
@@Drakorre Electivire needs Zeraora's signature move 'Plasma Fists'
@@redz9112 let motor drive work whenever electivire “LANDS” an electric move and just watch it monkey flip into the higher tiers
@@Drakorre Doesn't Luxray get Wild Charge? That's a pretty good move.
@@webbowser8834 90 base power with recoil is nowhere near as good as what other types get. Play rough has the same base power and a chance of lowering the target's attack with no recoil, blaze kick has 85 BP plus a high critical hit rate and a chance of inflicting burn with no recoil... If wild charge had lower accuracy instead of recoil and maybe even a chance of inflicting paralysis, it would probably be much better
This might be the first time I’ve heard of a PKMN being *harmed* (overall that is) by the Gen 4 physical-special split.
Probably other than certain physical mons losing hidden power coverage since it became special
To be Fair kangaskhan and snorlax losing Shadow ball was kinda important too
Alakazam lost the elemental punches.
Other than all of the physical attackers who lost shadow ball (mentioned in a previois comment) and special attackers who lost elemental punches (Alakazam, Jinx, Typhlosion).
But since gen 4, all types that Regice and -Rock are weak to have been both physical or special.
You know its good when FSG uploads early
Also HOW GOOD WAS MIENSHAO ACTUALLY
Vote in community tab, you dummy.
@@n484251 Alright sorry didn't see the post until now
I guess it's alright. It's fast and has fighting STAB but is also totally outclassed by Terrakion and Infernape in every single way aside from fast knock off uses.
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OOF, my iPad's community tab doesn't function.
Imagine if this thing was a dark/ghost type and got poltergeist. It might actually be good then.
I want it to be Ghost/Normal…
Banette actully got poltergeist in gen 9 and has shot up to OU in natdex for gen 9. However I heard it's pretty bad there sadly despite the buf
@@facade6927 damn, I didn't even remember making this comment xD
@@justartagain1056 haha yeah it was 2 years ago
9:41 Wolfe Glick, the lord of anti-meta
Top 10 things that never get old: "UNFORTUNATELY,"
For some reason I really like those poetic scripts. Nailed it man.
BKC lol
Kellen must have the Early Bird ability to upload before 9 am
He probably skill swap it from somebody else, cause is quite gimmicky for him.
Yea since he possess the ability slow start
Wow, I never realized how bottom of the barrel Banette is amongst the ghost types.
I know, right? I've got to say, this surprised me.
I always knew it was one of the worst Ghost-type Pokemons. Dusknoir & evolite Dusclop are even better than Banette.
How Good is an early upload ACTUALLY?
Idk, kinda high tier but not god tier because i wanna sleep more but an fsg video gets released
Really great, AG tier for sure
It’s so good that it ended up in ubers
@@RuthlessXD but let's not forget 5am power creep did relegate it to UU with no day light savings in sight. Maybe next season it can make a come back in 2021
@@giovannimartinez9341 Let’s hope that if mega evolution returns that Early Upload will return to OU at best.
Banette’s mega evolution certainly fits with the spooky vibe that Banette has though some may have expressed said mega evolution form should’ve been a new evolution for the ghost, much like how dusclops got a new evolution in the form of dusknoir.
It's a real shame too, as I've always found Banette to be one of the cooler ghost types.
But alas, not even a Mega Evolution could stop its decline.
cool cool, but what is that profile picture.
@@Deadflower019💀
Fun Fact: Legendary horror mangaka Junji Itou was asked to draw Banette by the Pokémon company one time. He didn’t disappoint.
Yeah, after seeing that, I was flattered and called it Tomie
Where I can see it?
My guess: Unfortunately Sucker Punch exists...
@a HERO that doesn’t know what protect means I think he means sucker punch being used *against* Banette.
trying to sucker punch banette just gets you will-o-wisped, it's got a good match up with everything that relied on sucker as their only move to hit ghosts, like hitmontop & mega kangaskhan, it's flaw is more it just being bad
More like: Unfortunately Knock off and pursuit exists. He also meets all three of the requirements for a bad pokemon: Frail, Slow and with undeerwhelming offensive power.
@@Marcusjnmc but regular kang with scrappy :D
oh God i never remember banette's model and 2D sprite is so spooky...banette without smile is horror indeed
I love how all bad pokemon with VGC usage basically ends up being Wolfe saying hold my beer.
I thought it was pronounced "Buh-nette" instead of "Bane-ette"
Hope we get Kyurem's video on christmas, its pretty fitting honestly.
I’ve been waiting for this one for awhile, thanks for finally making it!
I keep forgetting that Banette had a mega evolution.
Well it's a pretty forgettable mon.....
00:27: Oh, what a heartwarming backstory! It brings a tear to your eye.
Love these videos, they’re super fun and informative!
Jooj
Jooj
@@rajt9996 raj
@@quimartolas12 quim
@@jooj3596 jooj
It's a shame that Mega Banette has a huge 165 attack stat but no defences or speed to back it up, it is my favourite mega evolution and I use it a lot although it's not that good :'(
I really hate what they did with some megas, and Banette was one of them. They literally could've just given it 10 more attack, 10defense, 30 special attack and 50 speed. That's ALL they needed to do. Why the hell does it need 165 attack????
For all the unrealistically exaggerated Pokédex entries, Banette’s is so realistic, it’s lifelike.
He did it!He said the thing
Next: How GOOD was Sawk ACTUALLY?
i will never back down
RIP my favorite ghost boy 😔
12:28
Poltergeist could save him (for at least a PU niche)
Doubtful considering Dusknoir's dominance as a tank Poltergeist user with more bulk and much better coverage
@@breloommaster12 Yeah, but Banette is faster and stronger (Even resists could get 2HKO with Choice Band)
@@doubleace11554 doesn't matter, there's also gourgeist, who's faster than banette, and trevenant, who has an actual useful ability. both also have useful secondary typings and more versatile movepools. banette sucks.
@@wesuckatgames9549 We can also consider Sw/Sh has been given weird coverage to old mons, even though the move wasn't learnable for it in past gens (Venusaur with Earth Power, Raikou with Scald, Psychic fangs to Lycanroc-Dusk, Close combat for everyone and their mother), so it wouldn't be weird to see something like elemental punches, swords dance and/or Play rough on Bannete.
We also didn't talk about how prankster its self was nerfed, and no longer affected dark types in gen 7
Please do electrode next.
It is one of the fastest if not the fastest explosion user so I guess it must be at least okay in doubles.
Getting hit by a pokemon: Calm
Getting hit by the kid that threw you: Anger
Seeing that the kid got a new doll: Mega Anger
just imagine mega banette in gen 8 with these movesets:
Poltergeist
Cotton guard ( Gen 5 DW ) / will o Wisp
Shadow Sneak
knock off
or
Poltergeist
Taunt
knock off
Rest / Cotton guard ( gen 5 DW ) / Will o Wisp
Not really. Why would you run it over mega gengar?
There’s no Megas... I think a straight evolution with a normal/ghost typing and a new ability maybe something cool like poison heal, magic guard, or guts to boost its priority moves in sucker punch, shadow sneak/ quick attack. Stats for the evolution would be similar to its mega but 30 less in attack to be put into speed and/or hp, also w an evolution bannette would be able to use eviolite
Neat analysis! Thanks for uploading!
2:45 Blastoise looks so strange without the cannons.
OMG FINALLY
This is one of my favorite Pokémon of all time and the first ever Mega I used in VGC I loved using it and one some tournaments with it too I absolutely love it’s design and Lore! Thx FSG for this video
Please do a how good was thunderous, landerous, or tornados actually or just one of them. Thanks, also love your channel.
I can answer of those
Thundurus: Good
Tornadus: Good
Landorus: Was the most used mon in VGC 2019 and is a top 10 mon in VGC 2021
Thundurus: Eh.
Tornadus: Great.
Landorus: One of the most annoying, frustrating, overpowered and overused Mons in existence.
@@Midgetpokemon Incineroar was the most used mon in 2019, Landorus had almost no use in that format.
Banette. The only ghost type in gen 3 whose ghost stab actually hit hard.
Ah yes, Mega Banette with it's BIG, MEATY CLAWS.
My Banette helped beat the elite four in ultra moon. I really wish it was made stronger, I love Banette and it is INCREDIBLY underrated. At least it has some plushies, like the Sitting Cuties. Banette is one of my favorite pokemon
The following pokemon should be remade:
Kanto Starters
Nidoking
Gyarados
AND STARMIE
Also Gengar, Zam, Snorlax, Chansey/Blissey, and Machamp
Ttar
@@terrence9911 nah, that would be too long
ZeteQ it still needs one
I have destroyed teams many times with Mega Bannette. You have to really gamble and use mind games like pretending you have destiny bond, or pretending you have it, then your opponent learns it doesn’t have it, but then it turns out you did have it. It’s amazing when it works.
It’s always a shame when a Pokémon with such an awesome design has terrible stats. 😩
Banette and Mawile are two of my all-time favs, but good lord do they suck in battle. 😭
Mega mawile is excellent
I love how he had a clip of kangaskan hitting it with a normal type move
How GOOD was Meloetta ACTUALLY? I will not give up on my favourite Pokémon
7:10 rare footage of a mega dying to a non fully evolved pokemon
Banette in gen 3: Wanna play with my STAB physical Shadow ball
Banette in gen 4-5: My shadow claw is weaker than the average team flair grunt
Banette in gen 6-7: Finally a mega! I'm relevant again
Banette in gen 8:
Its loby
I feel Mega Banette was the second worst mega in the game. It really needs a mega to be relevant or a better stat distribution.
Bannete's mega in gen 7 is basically higher attack stat than groudon but just as good as ledian
@@M3rtyville Yep completely agree but hey at least it was decent in RU in gen 6 and in NU in gen 7 (unlike Mega Abomasnow who actually fell to PU in gen 7).
In my opinion, some Megas could have easily been its Pokemon's evolution design wise, especially if it's a single stage Pokemon to begin with (stats would need to be adjusted, of course). For me, Banette is a prime example for that.
poltergueist may be useful to him if he comes to gen 8.
with sash, sneak, sucker punch and trick room he may advance some game states and support some teams.
niche, but its something.
Banette sounds like it's begging to be a poltergeist abuser; a possessed toy possessing its opponents' toys.
Wouldn't do much anyway since it's outclassed by many other better Ghost type Pokemons.
Banette is genuinely my favorite Pokemon
Leave it to Wolfey Glick himself to pilot a “Hyper Defense” team 😂
Since Christmas is close, wynaut do 'how good was stantler?'
I tried to use it, I really did. It's concept is really cool but it's terrible from my experiences. Let's see how good it actually was
Thanks patreons and FalseSwipeGaming for turn this video possible. Because Banette is my favorite Ghost-Type Pokémon and Mega-Banette is my favorite Mega Pokémon. I have history with this Pokémon, i used Banette to beat Pokémon Emerald and used it to squash Anabel's Alakazam in the Battle Tower. In gen 5 i used my alternative Banette with 252 Sp Attack, 252 Speed, Timid nature, Item: Choice Specs, Moves: Shadow Ball for primal ghost STAB, Thunder for trick Politoed, Hidden Power Fire for catch off guard switich Scizor and Ferrothorn and Trick for fooled Chansey and other stallers. Not the best set, but have his nich. I make many Sweeps with my Special Mega-Banette in Gens 6 and 7 with Shadow Ball, Thunder, (because Banette not great Sp Attack stats) Substitute and Calm Mind, 252 Speed, 186 Sp Attack, 70 Deffense, Timid nature. A very good set to use with Sticky Web and i have the most normal set with Shadow Sneak/Sucker Punch, Gunk Shot, Will-O-Wisp, Taunt/Destiny Bond with 252 Speed, 252 Attack and Jolly nature.
I buffed Mega-Banette gave him 97 base speed, acess to Close Combat, Stone Edge, Elemental Punches, Play Rough, Swords Dance and Hone Claws, and for final create a new STAB siganture move for Banette the Cursed Needles when Banette use this claws like needles with 120 base power, 100 acuraccy, Physical, lowering Banette's Def and Sp Def Stats. And this is i buffed Banette, is a shame Banette is more offensive on Special side thank to the fact it's have more covarage with special moves and the only buffed move buff Sp Attack and Sp Defense.
Can we know HOW GOOD WAS MANDIBUZZ ACTUALLY
My Hoenn ghost boi deserved better, man. But thanks for covering it. Honestly, if they just gave regular Banette Prankster, that would go a long way to keeping it on an even keel.
8:30 am on a Sunday
Ya mean midnight Monday! Australian Central daylight time
The way you pronounce its name is a bane in my existence
*claps*
9:40
yap. sounds like wolfey alright
gotta love him
He is a douche.
@@RandalfElVikingo wolfe? wolfe is amazing!
Makes me wish that Banette was able to learn Cotton Guard because Gen 5 there was an event that allowed you to get one with Cotton Guard
Banette has been my favorite pokemon for at least 10 years.. really dissapointed in banette's competitive viability :( I was hoping for a decent buff or a type change. I played rom hacks were banette was either Ghost/normal (because of the doll aspect), or Ghost/Dark (because of the hatred).
Love your work! Be safe and thanks for all you do.
I don't care if Banette is abandoned by Gamefreak, I love this little monster with all my heart. I literally never abandon it and always revisit It in my copy of sun and moon, I've been using her for a bunch of generations.
Banette really needs a speed buff to make it somewhat of a physical ghost type sweeper which im pretty sure only Dragapult can do as of now.
how BAD was lumineon actually?
It was good in gen 6 PU
Got to give the patrons credit for choosing a screwed up toy with a magnificent horror movie backstory during December instead of an ice type or something like Sawsbuck. Of course it would take someone like Wolfe Glick to bring Mega Banette to a bit of prominence
How GOOD was Bronzong ACTUALLY?!?!
WOW THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING! YOU ARE THE KING OF POKEMON CONTENT ON THIS PLATFORM!!!!!
Plis next do "how good was manectric actually"(Was my first shiny)
Finally patreon, been waiting a while for this
How Snowy was Cryogonal ACTUALLY?!
Pretty much
Yeah, you’re not going to have a video on Cryogonal’s merits. At best you can say it was annoying in that one mode in Smash 4 3DS.
if banette was my doll I would have cherished it especially when it became a pokemon... but at worst it would just stay in my closet with occasional visits from my cat invading my room
Since you are doing some G3 pokemon now, why not showing us how good was Castform actually?
Mega Banette's design was neat.
Okay, spooky boi is a good choice. Honestly these past few have been some of my favourite but........ please I'll never give up
How GOOD was Mr. Mime ACTUALLY?
I used Mega Banette through all of Gen 6. In particular during the Halloween Party online competition I ran Imprison on it because every legal Pokemon was a ghost type.
I miss Banette’s Gen 3 sprite. It had such a creepy charm that I feel was lost in the games that came after.
1. Give banette a evolution
2. Give it the normal or dark type
3. Get rid of the majority of its special attack and invest it in other stats
4. Give it poltergeist
5. Give it a good ability like adaptability prankster etc etc
Now you’ve got one of the best ghost types
Please game freak I’m begging you
pog I love mega pokemon how good's can we see "how good was gailie actually" one of my favorite mega evolutions
It’s December so I say we have a good chance
Gaylie
He did say in the community poll thing that the Glalie video is in production, so keep your faith.
yeah ill take a good chane any day of the week
love this mon, one of my all time favorites