Top 5 Reasons to BUY a 2023 Stingray and not a C8 Z06 Corvette!
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- Top 5 Reasons to BUY a 2023 Stingray and not a C8 Z06 Corvette!
Ladies and gentlemen, today I will give you 5 reasons not to buy a 2023 C8 Z06 which will give you reasons to buy a Stingray Corvette instead.
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Ladies and gentlemen, today I will give you 5 reasons not to buy a 2023 C8 Z06 which will give you reasons to buy a Stingray Corvette instead.
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funny since you are giving up your c8 for a z06. im busting your balls a bit.. id give up a c8 for z06 any day too. but like many of us a z06 will be almost impossible, so to keep striving for a c8 is still not a bad bet.
@@ajitnatt8323 Yeah, being a UA-camr, it’s best for me to always have the newest Vette, and it will be an amazing machine for sure. It has checked all my boxes for owning a true, supercar. 👍😊
#1 reason. If you convince enough people, I’ll move up on the allocation list. :). Y’all listen to this man.
Yes bro I agree! If I wait 2 to 3 years for a z06, it just means it’ll be paid off by the time I get it
Nice profile pic, LOL
Exactly! I was thinking, didnt he sell his Z51 for a Z06. And he's telling me to get a Stingray.
CC & the music factory song plays "Things that make you go hmmm"
Go ahead wait 4 years for a car champs
Never give up on your dream...iam waiting for my zo6 ,I don't care how long it takes..still my dream...
Yea I preordered one too.. it’s in my opinion going to be way more sick than the 2023 c8, they’re both beautiful cars though
Right there with you!! 🥂
@@Prodrifter-de2si you can’t even order one? They don’t even have options available. Maybe a dealer took your money, but definitely didn’t order anything.
@@Coleclarkxx24xx or he’s just lying lmao
That z06 has them 345s on the back. STR8 🔥🔥
After you see a Z06 in person, it changes everything. It’s a different car and it becomes legit supercar visually and performance wise. Stingray is awesome, but Z06 will be worth every penny and the 3 year wait…..
Keep telling yourself that. The Stingray and base Z06 are practically identical aesthically. The performance numbers aren’t all that much different either.
agreed. im waiting.
@@GinNBoost 670hp vs 495hp?
@@dbanddz yep, even +200 HP isn't actually that significant a change once you're above a certain threshold. Yes, it's faster, but it's only perhaps 1 second faster in a quarter-mile sprint... and from an experiential perspective, that isn't much.
But the Z06 isn't about acceleration, that is going to be the ZR1 when it comes out. The Z06 is about track-day cornering performance. Well, the C8 across the board is already well known for that, so going from famously good to famously good is... underwhelming. For 99% of buyers, either car will out-perform the driver easily.
@@GinNBoost saying the C8 stingray and C8 Z06 are basically the same Is like saying the C7 stingray and C7 Z06 are basically the same. You have no idea what your talking about. They are totally two different cars. The only thing the cars have in common is the interiors.
Anyone who is ordering Z06 instead of stingray means he is ready to pay 30k more for a z06. That means he prefers Z06 over stingray, could be any reason performance/ sound / wider body / HP etc. so just because he may not get Z06 anytime soon , asking them to go for C8 stingray does not sound right. Then we can also say why wait for 1.5 years for a stingray, buy a porshe or M5 or something else. If anyone fixed Your mind on Z06 , I believe it’s worth the wait , do not compromise because of availability.
The reasons I gave here are mostly cause, there are many out there who have never owned a C8 who are going straight for the Z06. They’ve never experienced the C8 and would probably love it and be perfectly content with it while waiting 3-4 years for their Z06.
@@BrinkofSpeed totally
Honestly i'd pay 30K more to have the quickest naturally aspirated car in the word, I mean I still get the point of saving money but.......
he posting for clicks now, he the first one in line for a zo6
I want a ZO6 but im gonna wait a few years for used ones to start hitting the market. The regular C8 just doesn't do it for me.
Years and years ago I owned a and bought new a1967 Corvette coupe C-2. A few years later I owned a 66 Corvette 2 top . Both with 427 engines.
I'm commenting about how Corvette changed in every respect. Looks and price. 67 cost $4900 . 66 cost $ 3900. I'm now 74 years old and never lost the Corvette bug. I wish I could afford one again. Yeah, bucket list. Thanks 👍 for your videos. Love them. Keep the Corvette bug alive. Thanks again.
Since I was I kid my mom told me that one day Jesus Christ the lord will come one day, we’ll I’m on my 30s and I’m still waiting, I think it’s ok to wait few years for the Z06, in Jesus Christ amen 🙏🏼
Waiting isn’t a terrible thing, that is for sure. 😊👍
I'm # 154 on the list for a C8 Stingray with my dealer, no markup. He told me if I switch over for a Z06, they would markup. Immediately I said, no thanks, plus I'd be on a 2 to 3 year wait. I'm already C8 starved, seeing others drive theirs on the street, and I don't have mine. Haven't seen very many on the street, I want to be one of the fortunate few. C8 here i come, been on the list for mine just at a year. Mike, thanks for being informative and straight forward.
Im # 153 on the list with Stingray Chevrolet. After putting down my deposit at the end of May 2021, Im hoping to place my order this July/Aug. As of today, they have 880 deposits pending which is almost a 2 1/2 yr waiting list. The deposits have doubled in the last year.
Just buy a used one at 80-90k they are worth it, they wont depreciate , waiting 2 years for a car is insane, it kills the mood and its a turn off
I like the Corvette without the spoiler/wing on the back. Its just a sexier more sophisticated look without it ✊🏾
Yeah, I am on lists for both (at MSRP - I have written guarantees), with a 6 months head-start for the Stingray. I should be getting my Stingray this year (although more than likely a 2023 model), and the intent is to drive that until I get my Z06 3 years down the road (or whenever). $5,000 deposit on each.
Nice. 👍😊
Bro.. be realistic, waiting list are 1.5 years for stingray.. GM is not taking orders, you are gonna wait 1.5 years just to get the car built then
@@johnnyivan1977 Oh, yeah, my GM dealers have no idea what they are talking about. Whatever. I guess you are just jealous you failed to get on a list early enough.
Damn playa
Just picked up my C8, HTC from the museum on March 3rd. didn't have to pay a dime over MSRP and was told I could place an order on the ZO6. Put 4,068 miles on the car bringing it home to Seattle. My wife loves the car, and we went thru 10 states on our way home. love your channel. Keep up the good work.
How long you waited since you ordered it?
The real problem I see it’s that they make you wait for a car for so long that I lose interest and want to move on. I wanted a GT500 but everyone I spoke with wanted over MSRP and I am not rewarding them by paying over MSRP. With prices going up and the high price of gas, I decided to move on. That’s a sale that ford will not make and Chevrolet will be in the same position when someone decides they no longer want to wait for a Corvette.
honestly depends on the person. die hard z06 people will wait as long as they have too.. the production numbers on each trim package is what makes it worth the wait. not sure what the 2023 numbers are exactly but im willing to bet there making less z06s then stingrays an even less ZR1 Zoras. so the more rarity an less production numbers make people wait same with over mrsp so many poeple want it that it becomes almost a bidding war. its really crazy it should be first come first serve no bidding shit its not an auction lol
@@brandonknox3992 I agree with you. It’s hard to say when and if the bidding up of prices will end ever or sometime soon. Inflation and gas prices might drive the prices lower but still impossible to tell right now.
I agree and good for you bro. I would t over pay either. I’m not opposed to a used one because we know what happens once you drive off of the lot.
@@ztwntyn8 didn’t the original c8 came out at 60k. I’m looking at used ones for over 100k? Not all cars lose value
Forget that , I want the C8 Z06 . And when the C8 ZR1 comes out ... I want that too ...
As the owner of 2 C7 Z06s, I will definitely be adding the C8 Z06 to the stable. Glad I got on the list 18mos ago.
Im with u...im #37 on the list for the Z06
Dang, two C7 Z06's? What years were they?
Also what colos?
Only 18 months ,I've been on my dealers list since March 17th of 2020 at MSRP
You brought up a good point. If I ordered a 2023 Z06, and stay on the waiting list for 4 years… I’d basically have a 4-year old corvette in 2027. Depreciating as I’m waiting to drive it
Yeah that’s what surprises about the people in these comments. The ray will be out in 2024, and there may be a brand new model in 2027 lmao
C7 only lasted 5 years!
Think about that.
This one probably going to be a longer model however; The C6 was a very long lasting model itself, it lasted what 8 years?
You make all the sense in the world! More is less unless you not only can afford it, but you could buy two if you wanted! No need to live in the car when you are faster than just about 95% of all the cars on the road while avoiding that luxury/guzzler tax! With the difference in price of a z51 and a z06, you can buy a boat, house or a business!
Placed my order for a 2023 Stingray mid January, production began May 16th, 2022. My car arrived at my dealer (Matick Chevrolet in Redford Michigan) last week. Taking delivery in a couple of days. At MSRP. I don't need a 2 year wait for a Z06. I will only track my car once or twice a year... But it will make for some great content for my own channel :)
Good stuff. Here’s what I’m thinking. The flat plain crank’s amazing and the sound‘s glorious. But unless you’re going to track the C8, you’re going to pay at least $20K over a nicely optioned stingray for capabilities you’ll probably never use. I’m convincing myself to put the order in for the stingray, enjoy it for the next few years and then decide if I need to swap it with the Z06 if I have to.
Every single time you stand on the gas pedal of the ZO6 you ( well , not you ) will absolutely be using the “ capabilities “ so they are in fact being used.
Thank you, I’m happy you enjoyed it. Great points, but I will use all it’s power on the street for sure. 👍😊
@@mikebauernfeind7024 , I have to agree with you. You can’t deny what the Z06 can do even off track. Unfortunately I didn’t put my preorder in when I should have done so couple years back. But I intend to lay my hands on one the earliest possible. Most likely it’s gonna be two or three years in the future. In the meantime I will be putting my order for the Stingray.
I agree, but at the same time that same argument could be used as to not waste money on a corvette and just buy an economic car. I'll be taking delivery of my 2022 in the next couple of weeks. If you're a car enthusiast, get the best you can afford. For me its the stingray with z51. If money is no object why not experience what the z06 has to offer?
Orders for stingray is at least a year and a half on waiting list
I really wanted a C8 Z06 but I knew it was going to be a shit show to get one so I bought a C8 HTC Z51 and paid the premium to drive it out the same day. Love the car but I still want the Z06. So I’m prob going to wait until the hype is over and buy one in 2 or 3 years. Hopefully prices come down and the premiums will be less.
Seems like you focused a lot on the time it would take to own one. I was thinking that this would be more of a side by side comparison of specs. At some point your main reason for not getting the z06 will be mute because it will be just as available as the Stingray.
What a strange time we live in. I just got my 2022 PDK GT4 3 mths ago after a year wait, and I just put my deposit and got on the list at MM for its replacement in a few years when my number comes up.
In today's world you have to be VERY pro-active if you want anything that is popular and in demand. I am waiting until the end of summer for a PS5 still, LOL. Crazy times indeed!!
good advise , ty..... i was at the Museum ,9/29-Thursday, and picked up a Coupe. The museum was super kool , my guide was really good , but the best part was the Track. My only regret from the delivery is , I Didn't Buy More Laps , next time i get close to a track I am getting on it. I rolled it 580 to get home and videoed the Tack change at 500 miles. Thank You for sharing your C8 knowledge & experiences with me/us....billeeG
I just grabbed a Stingray. It's pretty darn peppy, but I think I'm going to get a Procharger kit for it soon as I come from a musclecar background and am used to more (well more in a straight line haha). Super fun car to cruise around in!
Yea, my dealer has a $50K over MSRP list and then a $25K over MSRP list and finally a MSRP list. So not only would you be waiting forever, you would also be paying a super inflated price!
I had a 2022 Stingray ordered and when they quit producing the 2022 Corvettes I will be on the list for a 2023. I have been on the list a long time and my dealer which is GREAT has said the build date may be soon. I have bought two cars from my dealer and I believe they have integrity. They did not charge more than MSRP. They had a list of buyers and I know the salesman and they have steadily been getting new corvettes in for those who were on the list. They might not have the highest allocation, but I believe I will have a new corvette in my garage SOON.
Skip the video the real reason to buy the stingray instead of the Z06 is to influence people to not buy the Z06 so there will be less demand and lower the price for this gentleman to buy more of them, and sell to you in a year after he puts out a new video talking about how great the Z06 is
The Brink of Speed channel is most informative. Based on watching this channel, I learned how to enjoy my 2022 C8 Stringray. Being from Cleburne, I liked the Texas connection.
I’ll just continue driving my C7 Stingray M7 which I prefer over the C8 anyway. Plus it’s paid for…lol.
Our man here is trying to move up in the Z06 que by convincing other people to cancel their orders. lol
I'm two years out on a Z at MSRP. I'm good with that.
I changed my mind on a Zo6 will wait on a E Ray with a big Wing spoiler I'm good still have my GS to ride in its like new 2019 ! 😎
I really don't think any average guy can buy it now even if he has the money. Dealer mark ups are so outrageous. Realistically speaking, it's not possible unless you can spend $200k.
Those dealers should not get any more c8 for a year All they wanted is to rise the price up a lot but now can't so that's why did that
SUPERB PHOTOGRAPHY on this site, congrats!
It’s a really nice car however unfortunately, I have very insufficient funds and It’s very unpredictable where I’m gonna end up financially.
best of luck to you, keep trying!
Hang in there Ryan!! I waited 15 years to get my 2007 Indy Pace Car Edition Convertable Corvette!! Atomic Orange with black top and black interior!!! It's 1 of 500 made!! I'm too HAPPY!! 😃😃
I'm number 18 on the ZO6 list at my local dealership in Spokane Washington they guarantee selling the car at MSRP and there is no deposit taken I'm also number 15 on the ZR1 list
Dealerships are out of control.. good vids
Thank you, some definitely are! 😊👍
Mike,
If I'm not mistaken, when I was at the NCM two weeks ago, one of the employees stated: Chevy was accepting information on those dealerships who where charging over MSRP and those being "Shady" offering MSRP and then marking up. I did not get any additional information about it though, but he did say that many people had been contacting them about it! Hope this can shed some light to try and resolve this issue!
I hope this can too. 👍😊
Talk is cheap. Let's see if they back it up.
Does anyone have that contact info? I’d really like to talk to them before I have to make the non refundable deposit on the Z06. Hopefully they can help with leverage against dealers screwing up the trust and character of their brand. Any info is much appreciated!
@@drsimonds Not sure, but you can always contact the NCM directly or check their website! Since you can take delivery at the NCM then, they should be able to provide some information and that's where I was at when the representative explained it to me!
What is NCM? Sorry for my lack of knowledge! :(
That means by the time you receive your Z06, there may be a new design out or being spied on somewhere.
Of course lol. The hybrid is coming next I believe
Amazing People get in Line 2 OVER PAY For Sht & be proud 2 say they did! 🤔
Z06 is Nice but i can Easily Wait & Wait for the Depreciation!!
Do you know if Corvette have plans to build any 2023 or newer with manual transmission again 🤔. They are so much fun to drive. I have a older Vette 2014 3LT Z51 package 7 speed manual transmission and I love it 😀
I like that maroon red one at the end.
Great info. I’m waiting to see if my Tacoma dealer sticks with their promise that I am still the 1st on the list after the owner gets his. Last I called it’ll be $50k over MSRP but I’ll fill you in more after I find out.
so most people is surprise how fast the c8 Stingray is from 0-60, becuz of the rear mid engine set up, but no one really care about how slow they are from 60-130mph or 100-200km lol
I have a 2022 c8 z51 stingray i have modded mine with headers, cats, track exhaust, ported intake, 95mm tb and haltech cold air box
I was at the track in the fall and there was a z06 c8
I instantly went up to it and was amazed how good it looks
As we went on the track in my head I thought i was gonna get destroyed but after a few laps I noticed i was gaining on him out of the corners
He was braking deeper and cornering about the same
After the end of the day i was really wondering if waiting another 2 years for my z06 is worth it
Btw my c8 has toyo r888r tires which probably gave me an advantage over the z06 stock tires
Another reason not to buy any of the C8 vets is GM will fight you on warranty issues if they can. There appears to be a known headlight water streaks on inside of light . In my case it’s a 21 convertible , never driven in rain and only washed once , usually wipe down with detail spray after every ride . Had PPF installed last year . After winter noticed streaks on inside of light . Dealer took photos tried to convince me it was on outside . Took back to Penske auto who did the film , very high end dealer. They said is on inside and to prove it took out headlight polishing wheel and wax that would virtually remove anything . Stayed the same . GM and dealer not warranty it said the use of heat gun on PPF film may have caused it . Penske said would be embarrassed to tell someone such a thing and in fact no heat gun was used in my install. The reason this is so cheep is it is . They do anything they can to get out of warranty items like this . Don’t buy car , get something better built and with solid customer service . Never had any such warranty issues with my Acuras or anything for that matter .
I got my 2022 c8 so I’m happy ass hell I had a 5 k deposit on mine it took 3 months and I paid 10k over sticker through Chevrolet so a 2023 will come out years later in 2025
I’m lazy, I’m getting the convertible….
I have a C7 Z06 manual 7 speed convertible. Great car. I put an order in to get the C8 Z06 at sticker over a year ago with a deposit. Whenever I get the call to place that order for production I will think about colors/options etc. but until then I just enjoy what i have which to be honest....is a car I completely enjoy. Why get the new car? Well if I can get one at sticker....why not? But having driven my car vs the new Stingray I find the C7Z06 more engaging than the Stingray c8. So I'll wait for the Z06 and if it comes in 2024...my 2016 at that point will be 8 years old and I'll probably welcome something new and I think the new Z06 will be special enough/engaging enough and exciting enough to make me happy.
Ive owned C5, 6 and 7 Z06's they are super to a base model in everyway. Id buy a C7 Z06 before buying a C8. Z06 is worth the wait.
I had multiple reservations for Z06 scaled back to one and hedging my bet with Stingray deposit 14 months out from when I want my car. I’m also getting on the Callaway list but if I see my number dropping at a rate that indicates I’ll get a car I’ll go Z06, Otherwise 2024 Stingray with Callaway SC and exhaust.
Then why do you have 1 on order?
The dealers will do the same thing with the Stingray MSRP. The more strained the supply chain becomes, the more expensive everything will be.
Mans word !!! those days are gone
Last year I called click Louis Chevrolet to put a order in for z06 And I thought they took a deposit but they didn’t and then when I called them recently they said you’re number two on that one salesman’s list so they just jerked me around and I did put an order in to stingray maybe you can recommend a good dealer
I saw a car hauler outside Kinsman, Ohio a couple weeks ago that had 12 or 13 C8s stacked on it. Somebody is getting those cars. It was parked and the view was obstructed and that's why I could not get an accurate count on all those wrapped-in-plastic cars.
Interesting......but to be clear you're still getting a Z06 yourself is that correct
Yes, but I put my deposit down almost 2 years ago. 😊👍
Next video will be why you need to buy the Z06 over the Stingray. Then another why you need to buy your used corvette from Corvette World.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Buy a 2023 with a resalable color and options...enjoy it, keep it up and when the Z06 comes out...sell it, likely break even.
I put a deposit on both last year middle of summer , just order the stingray should have it August, z06 2 more years lol
I’ll buy a used C8 and turbo or s/c it in a couple of years. By then you can tune it.
don't forget 1st generation dohc chevy engine was a flop. it will be proprietary to itself leaving you with ultra expensive engine part prices and really not much room for affordable hp gains with internal parts. get ready to see 5to6k stroker crank prices.
3 reasons not buy either. Money, money, money. Both are nice cars, but the speed limit is only 65. You can get a nice used BMW fully loaded for $30K and you won't lose too much sleep if you get a ding. But yeah....I still love the Z06 and if I inherit a few million bucks, I would consider getting one. Or maybe a Lambo Hurrican.
My brother has number 50 Z06 Z07 package on reserve!
Sounds like the z06 is the Porsche GT3 of the corvette world in terms of availability
A Z06 equally equipped as a Stingray will nearly cost twice as much.
IMHO the C8 Stingray and the C8 Z06 are 2 very different cars. Anyone who is about really driving would not be happy settling for the Stingray. Sadly very few people buying the Z06 will ever really use it. For many it is more about bragging rights, so even for those, the Stingray would not fulfill that need.
I use to be in a Corvette club, and I was the only one who ran track events. I never understood their reluctance. I am buying a Z06 to get back into driving at Road Atlanta and hopefully VIR. Unless production is
They’re actually not all that different lol. The Z06 has some more top end, but the Stingray has more lower end torque. It’s a better car to drive around town with and offers more usability. Z06 shines in the upper RPMs. How many times will you be revving it out on the streets? The 0-60 times are nearly identical. The torque on the Z06 is pathetic for the engine size.
@@GinNBoostIf all I want to do is cruise around town I totally agree, the difference is negligible. But just like my last Corvette (C5R-427) my primary interest is running Road Atlanta and most of my street driving is the back roads of the Great Smokey Mtns, as the saying goes "Drive it like you stold it." With a C8 Stingray Ring time 7:29.9 & the C8 Z06, that should be sub 7, performance wise the C8 Stingray is not close. So saying "They're not all that different" is not really accurate.
I do not understand your "torque on the Z06 is pathetic for the engine size" comment. You may want to go back and calculate both HP & TQ per liter for both cars.
Hey Mike, I have had an order 8n for exactly a year with an honorable dealer. I live in Canada. I have it FULLY loaded. I am hearing that GM is now saying that cars that have been ordered with the Magnetic Drive will not be getting them. It has been suggested that the Magnetic Drive will be going instead to the Z06 production line. I think this is very unethical on the part of GM. This means that a person who ordered a Z06 AFTER I ordered mine will get their Magnetic Drive. What do you think Mike ?
Canada sucks. As an American living in Canada everything is a duopoly scam
Ha ha! Then why do you have your Z06 ordered then? 🤷🏼♂️😏😉
I don’t have one ordered, however I put my deposit down almost 2 years ago. 😊
@@BrinkofSpeed Ok, so no order yet because of the shortage and wait time. Just pulling ur chain Bud. If I were you, I’d try to order one too, then keep driving my C8 till it arrives.
The only reason not to buy a ZO6 is you can only have 1 corvette so you are waiting on the Zorra
Good video. Makes sense.
I can't wait 4 or 5 years for a Zo6 I'm 71 now maybe get E Ray widebody with Zo7 wing package ! 🤔
Definitely makes a lot of sense. Love the videos. Thank you
Reserve the upcoming E ray as it will be 10 grand less and the delivery will be sooner than the z06 with the same wide body.
I am a subscriber. I am in 3rd place in line to get a Z06-Z07. I respectfully have to disagree with the idea that a person should get a stingray instead.
I have a fleet of cars and bikes, most are very fast. All of them had to be ordered and waited on. Good things are worth the wait.
Some will wait longer than others. Some won't get their orders for different reasons, but this is the game of high demand.
This Z06-Z07 is a Legend already. It is one of greatest civilian sports cars ever made pound for pound and for the price tag. There should be some degree of rarity and difficulty getting one.
A 2023 c8 with a procharger 675 horsepower a zo6 with a supercharger 650 horsepower I’ll smoke that zo6 with my 2023 stingray with a supercharger it’s lighter too know your facts zo6 all hype with that 30 k supercharger only difference between zo6 and stingray
@@kaymoney6169 I have a 2019 CTS-V. Same engine with better cooling.
The C8 ZO6 is not all hype.
The C7 ZO6 couldn't even go around the track at road America more than 5 laps without having overheating issues.
The front engines were at their limits. The Cadillac design is better and it is faster on top end and it runs with no issues.
There is is a huge difference between and naturally aspirated engine that revs at 9k that makes 670 horse power and a supercharged engine that makes 650 and makes most of it's power at 3k.
The C7 is a great car. The Cadillac is better.
The C8 is a Marvel at a price point that makes Italy sick in the stomach.
I've raced the C8 on the course track. It's a real problem for 60k!
The weight balancing and engine placement changes everything. The C8 has ungodly bite (grip) on the road. The ZO6 will be a game changer.
I also put a deposit down for the new Tesla Roadster.
It's a great time to be alive. No need to knock a GM achievement. No other company has ever made an engine like the C8 ZO6... I'm proud of them.
@@kaymoney6169 You must also be talking about a quarter mile smoke too. Because that ZO6 you have ain't smoking shit on a course track... The base C8 will wear your ass out like a cheap hooker. I race cars and bikes and boats. I know a race track and I know the streets. Point to point you will lose. Your car is scared to death of the CTS-V too. You do have enough cooling to have endurance needed. It's a fact. GM will even tell you that.
@@kaymoney6169 your comment is a clueless load of dribble 😄
Reason number 1: price tag lol...thats the only reason i can think of
Waited eleven months for my 2023 stingray in Torch Red......fast enough for me.
Come to SFL lol there’s plenty of stingrays sitting at dealerships. Some dealerships are already taking delivery of the Z06 right now getting ready to sell this summer.
Mike, I have a stingray now, so it's not a matter of needing a Z06, as much as that is what I want to spend my money on. I would not track it, I just one for the high revving engine and the sound that comes from it. That sound helps increase my testosterone level, which makes for a happy wife. LOL
Almost all your arguments revolve around availability or price but the real question should be, I think, is will the Z06 be that much more exciting in daily use. We already know that 0-60 (non Z07) will likely be ~2.7 sec so only marginally faster and outside of magazines or UA-camrs claiming great 0-60 times based on the cars timer (I got 2.65 on the PDR timer in my non-Z51 C8), I'm not aware of anyone actually doing 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. High revving engines like the Z06 develop max power at much higher rpms so in daily driving the old pushrod might actually be more responsive short of full throttle runs and does that flat plane crank motor actually sound better. Me, I'm driving my C8 and #26 on the local list so I will definitely get one if I want to pay the markup (salesman says they haven't decided but are taking $50K).
Please don’t pay over MSRP. If customers say no to price gouging dealers and flippers it will help end this car insanity. This video just another click bait nonsense. I didn’t hear anything that anyone with a lick of sense doesn’t already know. With all due respect, this guy knows nothing you and I can’t find out from your local dealer which is where you should be getting information. If I wanted the Z06 I wouldn’t go buy a stingray now just to have one while waiting. When the car bubble bursts, many people will be really upside down even at MSRP. Find an MSRP dealer and wait It out. You’ll be much better off.
@@55rhill You are talking about a reality that does not exist today. We are finishing up the third model year for the C8 and there is no indication of prices coming down much. If you want to go out today and order a Z06 at MSRP you are probably going to wait 4-5 years. The C8/Z06 "bubble" is not going anywhere any time soon. I would guess that the Z06 price is going to be significantly higher than what it was going to be due to inflation everywhere. The thing you and many others don't understand is that the C8 is a real world $125k sports car when you look at the alternatives which in many cases are not even as good as the C8 and the Z06 is a real world $175k+ supercar so even at a $50k markup it is still a great value. The auto industry has found out that low inventories equal higher selling prices so kiss the days of price negotiation and 100s of cars overflowing dealer lots goodbye.
@@philsalley3278 maybe you should try a little harder. I’m number 16 at my local dealer for MSRP. My reality, unlike yours, is based on hard work and relationships, not just blabber. The car bubble in general will burst soon, then you can see what reality really is when the flippers bail on orders. I’ve had over 30 corvettes in my life so I’ll bet on my reality over your nonsense.
@@55rhill If you think the bubble is about to burst, it is you who are engaging in blabber, not reality. Not sure what hard work and relationships or how many Corvettes you've had have to do with conversation. I'm #26 at local dealer and #1 at another. Neither at close to MSRP.
@@philsalley3278 then you’re a bigger fool than I thought. People like you are the reason for this artificial bubble. Actually with your inability to get a car at MSRP your negotiating skills must be zero. Send me a picture when you get it but I doubt you can pay for one anyway. Just another keyboard pounder. Get lost.
I am on my 23rd warrantly claim for my 2019 GS, newest issue is a 3LT leather dash delamination. The thought of spending 100 - 140k on a C8 sickens me. No thanks.
Just lemon law the car already jeez
@@Ondstockz06 I almost went down that road but the lawyers seemed shady and getting another car is probably going to be a nightmare
That extra 200 hp makes a big difference I’ll wait
The dealership I'm dealing with isn't taking any deposits until your number is called on the list and there is a ordering form and processing for the Z06 which is not even over the horizon yet.
I’d have to say that the stingray would also have better mileage. and would all around be a better car: all that horsepower chews up fuel.
C8 stingray would already destroy a C6 z06
Glad that I will buy a fully loaded Z05 C8 with Z07 anyway.
Here's the way I seen it. If you have an endless supply of money. Go in order one of each. Get the Stingray, drive it till the Z06 arrives, trade it in pick up the Z06.
It's not because I want stingrays to drive it sooner.
I basically wants c8 z06
I wish and have been wishing that GM, Ford delete the dealerships and sell from a large lot.
Make and ship the cars there , allow people to search the inventory and tag the car they want, pay and pick it up. No bull crap the dealers give you.
Hi Mike,
I know you are also local here in the Dallas area, I'm so pissed and disappointed with Classic Chevrolet in Grapevine, TX, I been on their Z06 list about 1 year now and a previous customer since I costumed order a C7 GS with them in 2017, this is my go to dealer for all my services, I use to drive about 40 miles just to have my car serviced there, I'm all about loyalty, my salesman also became my personnel friend as well, we have been in touch regularly and was told since the beginning that the Z06 was going to sold at MSRP, and by the way, not like other dealers that as soon as you give your deposit you already have a position on the list (Kind of weird), I still don't know my position until this day, but they have our deposits though, I received a call from my salesman last week and he said that he didn't have good news, he said that an additional $50k was going to be charged for CHARITY (Yes, Charity) I was completely stunned, after1 year dreaming, planning, started working 2 jobs to save up and most sadly, I sold my C7 GS with only 2k miles after all the high hopes, I'm very saddened that a dealer in which I had trusted and I was loyal to does something like this, all the things you hear on social media about dealers being thieves, dishonest and only care about money and not the customers or loyalty, I always spoke very well about Classic and never had Classic in that bad list, but unfortunately I don't have the same feelings or thoughts, a man's word is worth more than anything and playing with people's life and feeling's is COMPLETELY unacceptable. I will be contacting Ms. Barra at GM and at least let GM know which dealers are playing games and being dishonest, this bring's me back memories from the Ciocca's scandal, I still don't understand way would some dealer's ruin their reputation because of 1 sale, I'm sure when thing's go back to normal, these dealer's will restart calling us everyday to try to sell cars.
I have a c8 currently and i plane on just getting the procharger supercharger but if that doesn’t happen, gonna drive my c8 for a couple more years then trade it in for a z06 one day hopefully
Great videos and love the commentary.
I reside in Canada and placed a deposit in 2020 for the 2022 vette but due to the limited numbers I am 21st away from the 2022 convertible so I will be in the list now for the 2023 Z06. Can you provide some info on upcoming dates for the Canadian market for us Canadians please?
Thanks so much
Thank you, I’m happy you enjoy them. I’ll try to do that yes.
I'm in the upper 300's at Ciocca. I ain't goin nowhere lol!
Heck yeah! That’s awesome!
If I have to wait longer than 3 months I'm getting the stingray
Which dealers has the shortest wait times for the regular stingray? Also for budget conscious first timer which stingray is a great entry point? 1LT ?
I’d say at least 2LT for resale and useful options and for me convertible is #2 must. Z-51 is #3 in importance. Obviously just my $.02
At least 1.5 year wait… GM is not taking orders right now, thats why you see 90k plus, your better off get a used c8 for 80-90k at a low interest rate than waiting 1.5 , 2 years for GM to even start making your car
I am fortunate enough to have a 2LT. If you can justify the price difference to me it's the sweet spot. You get a lot of upgrades such as; front and rear cameras, rear view mirror camera, the 14 speaker Bose sound system, blind spot alert in both mirrors, and more. The only real difference between a 3LT and a 2LT is the highest quality interior is available on the 3LT. A well optioned 2LT will be thousands less and still have a great interior.
"Buy a stingray because it want to get my z06 quicker." Didn't even have to watch the video.
"Sir we finally have a Z06 available but only in florescent yellow".
Me: no thanks.
There may be some rate hikes coming around the by the fed. My thinking is a lot of people might not be able to pull it off due to the hikes and extra cost of a loan. This may knock a number of potential buyers out of the market. I do have a certified dealer near me. I bought my C6Z there. And I'll be using their body shop to have some work done. I'll build up a financial relationship as well as be a returning potential repeat customer. I'll have a chat with someone in sales and see what I can find out. Maybe this might get me a bit of leverage. Or not....should be interesting. Meantime, I'll just keep saving and enjoying my C6Z 🍻
The top 5 reasons appear to be...."You can't get a Z06". That's not a reason IMO not to buy a Z06....that's a reason why it will be a good car to buy if you can get one!
have to have c8 zo6 cant settle for a c8 stingray when i have a c7 zo6, the zo6 wont be that much over msrp unless you go to a jacked up dealer.
The real reason is because I’ve been on the list for a stingray I was SUPPOSED to be in a 2022 NOW IM FIRST OR SECOND ON THE STINGRAY LIST FOR 2023 I WILL NOT I REFUSE TO RESTART ON THR Z06 LIST…. ILL WAIT FOR THE FIRST HYBRID CORVETTE IM GOING TO ENJOY MY STINGRAY DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS!!!