I think what she meant to say is that no one else will be with him so he has held on to the same person for 12yrs. Stupid but, I think that’s what she was referring to
@@GM-vp8zp yeah she tried to make it seem like that’s what she meant but she was so clearly projecting because deep down she wishes she could have a relationship that lasted that long
nah he said shes gonna be a bad mother and her relationship will fail. Its really hurts when people tell you over and over "oh yall gonna break up". No wonder she got triggered
If you payed for half the set and the up front costs and would split the money that the crew gets then yes she can get money from the highlights but she talks in a hypocritical circle so often is insane how she thinks she is right when she is wrong. No one is more childish than her the end of the podcast proves it
Moses sitting down and saying give it time, telling Ethan he loves him and then going to support trisha. He is so fucking pure. I'm so glad trisha has him in her life and Ethan too... saying just go with her Moses bc he wants some one w her to support her and not feeling left alone, trisha is so lucky to have this support system
No its highkey toxic lol. Trisha is lowkey insane. She is acting like 1000% me when im hurt n i dont have any control over my BPD. This has really helped me see things from third view point. Damn. Im shook.
If you watch this episode knowing they get into a fight you can see Trisha slowly getting madder. Instead of standing up for herself, she digs her heels in and amps up the sex talk, the ditzy talk etc. Ethan thinks she's being playful and keeps meeting her energy until she gets so mad she explodes. From her perspective, he's picking at her the whole show. He does say some really hurtful things, but because of her reaction, he thinks she's playing along. She's not.
no it was the constant jabs at her relationship, weight, mental state, etc. i can give you time stamps if you need it. he pushed and pushed and pushed. yes she said some wrong things and i’m not discrediting that but to think he played no part is ridiculous
@@serenjuls7 yeah they were both being toxic in this episode, but people only see what trish did because she blew up while ethan was able to stay calm. he constantly went on about how her relationship is doomed, she's crazy, all of her relationships fail, all of her friendships fail, telling her that her childhood fucked her up, she shouldn't have kids, she shouldn't get married, pushing her to tell stories about her SA, saying she's not good enough for Moses. trisha has a lot of faults but that would get to anyone
“Ok wellll your life sucks and mine is awesome and your marriage is blah blah blah blah” That is the most kindergarten thing I’ve ever heard anyone! That is a response when you don’t have anymore good comebacks and you’re seriously jealous….she just said how happy she is for them about their engagement and happy they were trying for a another baby…are you happyyyyyy orrrrrrtr what trisha?????? What a baby she is
And that’s why she pushes everyone away lol. Jason had to choose between his family and friends ☝🏼 she’s so pathetic. She enters every podcast saying how much she’s happy with the family and really loves hila, she’s so gorgeous, their son is so cute they’re so happy.... to have fun trying to conceive in your sad life.....
can we talk about how Ethan is probably the only creator who has collabed with Trisha and actually cares when he genuinely upsets her?? like yes he provoked her and they both said mean things but Trisha was still going in on him and he was apologizing and trying to mend it depsite her still being nasty... you can tell he actually cares about her and didn't turn this into huge clout
I would say he only does that minimally. He might not want anything bad to happen to her, but he definitely exerts this feeling of superiority over her. He treats her like a spectacle, and he acts like she’s too stupid to realize it but she clearly got tired of it by the end of this episode. The title of the show is Frenemies, yet its them discussing her personal life most of the time rather than a mutual discussion of topics. As much as he might not agree with her, he doesn’t treat her like an equal, and it’s kind of gross watching him act like he needs to guide her. If he genuinely wants to help her, he probably shouldn’t be doing that in a monetised video. I don’t really want to watch a show where someone with mental health issues is backed into a corner and judged when it’s just supposed to be a regular podcast. Not that I’m a fan of Trisha either, but she’s still a person.
@@melatmekbib7592 I don’t think so, I think he was largely caught off guard. At the beginning of episode 5, he mentions how he’s talked about this issue before.
That apology from him was farrrr too soon after the horrible things he said about her "this is why you're a dangerous person" "this is why you can't keep friends" etc. Hideous argument overall but the apology was so early that it wasn't genuine
@@shirinatron She didn’t even deserve one she said countless times she isn’t gonna apologize to him when she brought up his family and said they were messed up and said that he takes pills when he honestly didn’t even try to offend her he just said she’s crazy as a joke because they always joke with each other but she blew up over that comment and he tried to stop the fight from happening so he said sorry even if it wasn’t genuine. He just wanted the fight to be over but clearly Trisha was still mad.
And then throwing down his personal business on the podcast because she ran with that and then he even said sorry yet she couldn’t be sorry for what she said
Ethan: Joking around Trisha: Crosses the line Ethan: Gets a little upset that she said that Trisha: How dare you be even slightly upset by the horrible things I say to you!!! Ethan: It's fine Trisha: No it's not, I hate you now
He called it. She’s projecting, she can’t face her own mistakes but she calls out everybody else’s and you can’t hold her accountable because she doesn’t even hold herself accountable, and I think she stormed off because she wasn’t getting away with her shit here and she couldn’t take it.
Why would you come to do a show where the other host is seemingly disgusted at you, cannot listen you for a second and is the minute you say something chanching the subject with really mean way: "I hate this stupid dumb bitch, I cannot stand her" written all over his face bringing out subjects you clearly don't want to talk about and when you are explaining something it's like this weard investigation mode thing to see you slip up. Ethan's temper tantrum when losing in his own who is smarter challenge and uncomfortable upset told a lot was it in the last time they shot together. I don't care for Trisha but c'mon people aren't unbiased if they think Ethan acts any professional in these and that he isn't mean as fuck. I totally get why she got fed up, still I don't have to like her tho but she wasn't acting mean towards Ethan from the get go. Goofing, yeahyeah.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 I skipped to the end cause that’s what I came here for. But I definitely think at the end he was being genuine when he apologized. Trisha definitely went overboard when she brought up his addiction and talked about his family in that way.
im not so sure, like yes he calls her off on her shit but sometimes he just presses her to get a reaction and thenn when he does he calls her crazy or says that thats why her relationships always fail or something like that, when he was clearly pushing her into that state... just my opinion, both of them did wrong
He tries to call her out on her bs but that doesn’t work with Trisha. Then when he’s playful she decides to misinterpret things to attack him because she has no valid way to respond to his criticism.
So watching back again it really hits the fan after her talking about her parents caring more about the house then the kids in her parents divorce and saying that she turned out fine. Then she tries to turn it to Ethan saying he didn’t turn out fine. I think the real trigger here wasn’t really being called crazy by Ethan. I think it’s talking about her parents. It’s unresolved trauma and not excepting her past. Ethan has called her crazy before but Trisha can’t except when he says she didn’t turn out fine because Trisha is trying to believe her childhood was good. Peace and love Trisha get some help. Love you Ethan papa bless! ✌️
Man rewatching these is like thinking back on your childhood and finding all the little cracks that you couldnt see as a kid. The moment Trisha got even the least actually offended she turned into a cornered animal. Like she was going to "win" against Ethan at all costs. And when Ethan doesnt respond to her jabs like she thought he would she cant concede and just keeps spiraling. Ethan isnt a saint but hes trying his best.
Fr! It’s insane to see how quick she switches. She’s entertaining to watch but it’s actually scary at the same time! When things don’t go her way, she switches into a rude and moody woman…
Except bringing up the pill thing was 100% justified. He starts by mocking her for being "crazy" she defended herself by saying she was just more honest about her flaws. Ethan then claims to be not only more sane, but more honest. Trisha defends herself again by bringing up an example where that's not the case and suddenly it's too far. This is textbook gaslighting. Ethan's mysogyny was on full display here and his incel audience loved it.
She’s projecting her own problems onto Ethan. A lot of what she said was just compete bs and coming out of her mouth sounded exactly like something that she went through...
The Uncle Fester and Jennifer's Body costumes made the heated exchange that much more ridiculous. Trisha's bloody lips made her scowling and cold comebacks that much more bitter. Kinda loved the trainwreck of it all, hope Trisha comes back to squash the beef.
I honestly think she uses it because she thinks It makes her sound intelligent. Maybe she should pickup a history book first before trying to use such a " big word" for her tiny brain
The way she passively aggressively tries to wish him luck with the podcast rubbed me the wrong way. Like she's just trying to get close to Ethan and his family, and get into all his personal information just to air it all out at the perfect time. Don't have a good feeling about her.
It’s not a feeling. It’s a consistent pattern of behavior she’s shown. She’s literally still talking about the Vlog Squad and her and Jason haven’t been together in years.
Ethan really hit the nail on the head of why she can't retain friends consistently. She weaponizes the things she learns about them through friendship the second they do something she doesn't like. That's such an untrustworthy personality trait.
Yea, hate people like that. This is why you don’t share personal stuff like that to just “friends” only share that type of stuff with best friends who you’ve known for a long time. But Ethan even said that wasn’t something he really cared about so it doesn’t matter if he told her or not.
Ugh I had a friend like this but she took it even further. She literally had blackmail files saved on her phone, videos of people doing drugs and talking about illegal activity, recording of very private conversations, all acquired in secret, in case they ever “turned on her”. She saved screenshots of her ‘friends’ every post on social media, she’d have screenshots from my twitter, tumblr, Instagram, Facebook, everything I had she checked regularly and saved anything she thought she could use against me. I guess she was so paranoid of people “turning on her” because when people ran for the fucking hills, which everyone has to do eventually, she determined that it was everyone else who was a villain and she had no choice but to have blackmail material to discredit them when they started sticking up for themselves. I was her oldest friend, 12+ years of making excuses for her behaviour before cutting that toxicity out of my life.
she really let her true colors show lol. ethan is no saint but trisha is extremely manipulative and as soon as she get’s triggered she immediately projects it onto others. she made a whole argument out of something that wasn’t even said. then insults the man’s wife, family, career, while saying things like “it’s fine, i’m ok”. no. stop making toxic people like this famous. this is dangerous behavior
@P. S. I hope they don't..she has gone entirely to damn far here on her youtube career and this is most definitely cringe worthy even for Trisha Paytas...Everyone knows that you do not go for the neck talking about his wife..life..everything! Have a great week! Stay safe and healthy..xoxo hydie ❤
Yep she literally can’t formulate and stick to her own opinions, could care less about all the money I’d never step close let alone be with someone like her
How she attacks Ethan is so painful to watch. Going after his past substance abuse problems and trying to frame his happy marriage as a negative is so undeserved, it’s maddening! He doesn’t deserve any of that.
The ending of this podcast is hard to watch because Ethan understands her and actually wants the best for her, and even apologized for calling her "crazy" which triggered her into anger. Trish seems to push people away who she thinks will hurt her, and tells Ethan that "his life is sad, he has sadness in his eyes, he is unhappy in life" which is not the angle to take, only a way to try and hurt him. I hope Trisha can realize that her and Ethan are friends, genuine friends, and that she continues with the Frenemies podcast because I've really enjoyed them together.
I noticed she started to get upset when Ethan started mocking her for "not turning out fine" and then she went full defensive attack on him. I mean I can see why she got mad but also I think Ethan was just goofing around and didn't meant any harm. So yeah, I hope they make up soon since I also really enjoy the podcast :(
When Ethan says “why would I want other options” when Trisha mentions how he’s been with the same person for 12 years, he looks and sounds so hurt, it made me really sad:(
@Chris Ruiz she kind has been for a few episodes now. it was hila's a bitch because she didn't want her to babysit, and she doesn't get it because she's not a parent yet. Then to talking about how Ethan would like to date now because hes famous. Just such weird comments.
She can’t understand why Ethan wouldn’t want anybody else because she’s never had a relationship like that. I love Trisha but she’s being so fucking weird in this episode it’s scary
honestly, shout out to Ethan for being so considerate in constantly re-evaluating his approach when he can tell Trisha is struggling. Also, for being one of few people on UA-cam willing to sit down with her and sincerely try to understand why she operates the way she does. I hope she can see her error in divulging Ethan's personal info and the podcast can continue, it's been great fun.
I agree, it was uncalled for to bring up his past with something that heavy. His comment could be considered a jab but hers was a kick to the balls. I do also hope they make up.
@@danielmardones5185 ethan pressed her on exact details of her being molested at her job by a hollywood guy when she kept telling him to stop. In like the second episode
@@sarcofaygo6218 I do agree that it was not cool to do that as well but it’s a show and I do think it was played up for the show even if it was not a good move. But this episode was different. She came for blood... plus on the episode you talking about he did eventually stop talking about it.
The gaslighting on Trisha's part is CRAZY. The way she says "good for you" so passive aggressively to get a rise out of ethan (around 1:18:36) and then when ethan calls her out for out, she immediately acts as though she was sincere because he embarrassed her.
the people having such a visceral hatred for trisha are kind of hilarious. they’re just fuming at a random white girl acting dumb and obnoxious for fun while getting hundreds of thousands of dollars off their anger.
@@matcha9250 well okay... so im not making any money off of this i hope you know that. And i definitely don't hate Trisha, I kinda stan her tbh, her blatant honesty. But on the other hand I had know idea about some of her mental disabilities until the recent episode where Dr drew came in. However you can't be mad at me for pointing out something that was definitely rude, now we all know she didn't mean it.
When I watched that I thought it was stupid to bring that up as a bad thing. Being married for 12 is a big accomplishment and it means that he found his “ true love” ,so good for home and I hope they have many years together.
Well HE was the first one to point out to why her relationships doesn’t work like ARE YOU SERIOUS??? he brought it up stop fucking defending that asshole
Yeah definitely letting her watch his kid/kids is such a dumb idea. Poor Moses btw. Dude what an annoying unstable gf. She probably will be back on this show though haha. Ethan is massively helping her.
Trish exposing how Ethan used to be addicted to pills really rubbed me the wrong way especially since her justification for it was that Ethan implied she was crazy because she is “off her pills” which is just an outright and complete lie. He never implied that at all, she just exposed him because she felt like it
@@Ebc11 That explains it- but it doesn't justify it, though... hopefully she'll apologize in private or something, because reacting like this (even if it's due to trauma) shouldn't be excused. It's not healthy and she needs to know that.
I've learned that you can't tell some people certain things because they will throw it in your face. You can still love the person but it won't be the same after..
No the key issue that you’re missing is what you said backwards. He didn’t imply she’s crazy because she’s off her meds, as you and her both say. What happened is that he inferred (in her mind) that she was off her meds by saying she was _crazier_ *than him* So he basically IN HER OWN MIND as it were, implied that she needs to be on meds just by saying the word crazy in any form towards her.
Trisha: “I can see why you’ve been with the same person for 12 years. You have no other options and quite frankly I don’t blame you” Also Trisha LITERALLY 8 seconds later (I counted): “I can be mean like you but I’m not going to”
This was disgusting!! So shocked by how she behaved. I feel so sad for her, thinking the way she behaves is acceptable. I can also see why her relationships fail...
That comment was sooo rude!! That made me so angry ... Wonder if things will still be good with Moses and his family after that comment - she truly does not recognize or care how her behavior impacts other people
She's happy and thriving but she punched Moses, sexually harassed Ethan, bullies Hila and the crew and talks badly about everyone around her including people who genuinely try to be good to her.
she is so vile. coming at him for a pill addiction, his marriage, and his success and then bashing his and her fiancé’s family by calling them awful. she has the maturity of a 16 year old. the end was hard to watch
I’m bingeing all of the old content and she’s seriously so passive aggressive and manipulative to him all through frenemies! Focuses wayyyy too much on his weight and his sex life
Lmao all this is cuz ethan was like “haha bestie u crazy” lol. Same shit she used to do with jason nash (not that i like/support him) but they used to joke about being fat/old/unattractive and trisha would get TRIGGERED randomly and turn it into something else at unpredictable times
Also I love how she talked about people being misogynistic but she literally low key puts Hila down on the regular and other women. Shes more harmful to women than Ethan is 100%
She basically puts anyone down who has a shred of class and doesn't show their dirty butthole to the world. If you think that's gross, you're shaming her 😂
It’s BPD dude. I have it too and she’s like the same person as me. So I I can tell you that when she got triggered, her brain started rapid cycling through all the people that have hurt her in her life. And then that gets projected onto Ethan. It does go away over time. But right now she’s splitting and he turned all bad in her head and she felt like she just had to get out of there. And she was making up things he wasn’t even saying. I have that problem as well. It’s like my brain attacks me. And if you try to apologize it doesn’t mean anything because we literally can’t hear it. The wall is already up. It also makes it worse because then her feelings that she believes are real are now being invalidated. I learned this through many years of therapy.
I don't think he's pushing for a reaction out of her. More so him just joking around with a friend. It's hard to know Trisha's limit when one day she's friendly and able to joke around and stuff and the next she gets triggered at the littlest thing.
@@KrepX3 idk what kind of friends people have but if mine talked to me like he did to Trisha sometimes, we wouldn't be friends long. Plus it's not like they were super close and knew each others limits beforehand.
I’ve been keeping a close eye on that line up during this series 🤣 last two weeks it’s been slightly off. Was satisfied to see it was on point again this week 🤣🤣🤣
honestly, yes trisha crossed the line just like the many other times she did throughout the show, however watching this back made me realize that some of the things ethan was saying are really triggering. especially about her relationship. given her internal struggles, I can totally see why she got so upset. ethan was making fun of her the whole time. and I don’t think he had bad intentions at all, trisha plays everything off like a joke, so people take the joking too far partly because she allows it. I don’t condone the things she said I’m just saying that I can see why she got so extremely upset, keeping in mind that she struggles so much with her emotions and her mental illness.
shes def in the wrong. did you not hear her? " i never cared for you" "i dont think about you" "your the person i hate the most in the world" "your addicted to pills"
She actually gross. I can ever hate watch her at this point. When she said he was with Hila because he had "no other options" I wanted to slap her silly.
I don't think it's a private story, they talked about ethan did pill in israel on previous podcast. She's upset because ethan basically called her crazy and shouldn't have kids after she opened up wanting to have one. Then she try to hurt ethan back, hey you're just as crazy as i am with drug and mental health problem, it's kinda weird for him to be the one who "joke" around that she shouldn't have kids because she's crazy. As for hila comment, i don't think it's an attack to hila, she basically saying hila is way above his league, no one wants him, that's why he has no other choice but stay with her for 12 years. Just like ethan constant joke about trish's relationship since the beginning of the podcast. I don't think it's an attack to moses when he said their relationship won't last, don't get married, you guys are moving on too fast, moses could do better, constantly asking moses if he actually love trish, etc.
It was so bizarre to watch - like imagine what she’s like behind closed doors. I truly didn’t know a 30+ year old was capable of such immaturity. You could tell she was uncomfortable because he truly wasn’t bothered by what she was saying he was just watching her squirm and try to come up with arguments.
Ethan went for her jugular first, which is 'this is why none of your relationships last'. There is so much truth in that, it ought to hurt badly for her to hear.
@@mch3j Thank you for adding this in the interest of fairness! You covered pretty much everything and I 100% agree. This is a comment I posted yesterday about all the things that contributed to her flipping out: -Being interrupted -Ethan complaining the topics are boring -Ethan saying he thinks this podcast is trash 51:30 -The comment about her diet being so disgusting that her butt must be vile (that was really too far) 57:00 -Ethan saying she doesn't even look close to Megan Fox -Ethan accusing her of incest, expressing a tonne of disgust towards her -Insinuating her mother and sister are fcked up -Telling her she would be a terrible parent -Stating a child would break her and Moses up and they will never stay together forever -Jack should have been an asshole towards her, he probably 'saw something' -58:00 It's pretty insulting to suggest she'd do onlyfns with Theo... I don't think she's insanely immoral like that in real life.
I do the same too, but that’s just my personality it doesn’t mean I’m a shitty person it’s because I think who ever tries to hurt me with words he deserves to be hurt 10x than me so I don’t even regret trying to hurt him/her as much as I can.
He never walked on eggshells. He says awful things about her all the time. She’s fat, stupid, would be a terrible mother, she’s crazy, her boyfriend willl leave her.
yeah its pretty sad, she has bpd (not an excuse ofc) and thats why she does it. i feel for her but i also understand ethans side. im glad ethan u understands her tho and doesnt see her differently and still loves her
@@roosje2069 same i have bpd, it definitely isnt an excuse. you're aware what you're doing too. you only start to feel bad once you realize the impact. trisha is probably wildly different, she seems to stay with her narrative no matter what
@@ena_ina do people actually black out during these episode, and not even remember what happened, like Trisha said? Or is she saying that to avoid responsibility?
@@srcworm no, you remember and feel intense guilt and shame after. most people with bpd will apologize for it after some time. but then again, trisha has a lot of other issues other than just bpd.
@@roosje2069 I have BPD, it's very hard to control yourself when you're triggered (I hate that word, but it's legit the only way to describe it). You explode and can't control what you say. BUT even before I learned about what it was, etc, I had common sense not to say "low blow" stuff cos that's just being a bad person. That's not being a logical debator/arguer, that's being emotional (which is purely BPD, but you're lowering yourself). She may have BPD, but she's allowing herself to revel in it. She's choosing to let herself explode and choosing to make the low blows. That, to me, is her being a bad person. That's less BPD, more choosing to let herself be nasty.
Right! Also Im rewatching all of the episodes… Trisha was very explicit in saying that she was popping zannys since the first episode and I definitely think that contributed to her already emotionally unstable self bc she hasn’t confronted her past trauma like she said. Very sad, I think Ethan talks to her as if they are already friends and Trisha was just on a different planet during this time…
Eh. Ethan was pretty rude too. I don’t think she likes it when he talks negatively about her relationship with Moses and also him talking bad about her family…She took it to the next level by talking about his private stuff. I definitely think she has some BPD tendencies. BPD isn’t an excuse for bad behavior but it explains her behavior. People with that disorder are emotionally intense, super insecure, and not stable in relationships. It’s very challenging because it’s literally your personality and your personality is pretty much set in young adulthood (some psychologist argue in childhood). That said, I think she’s a better person now with a family (stability).
@@d3monsn0wkittyShe needs to apologise to Ethan for everything she's done cuz even IF Ethan was wrong in anything their back & forth is completely disproportionate 💀 every ep I've watched she's cussed him out, called his wife a bitch to his face multiple times, taken snarky shots about his personal life like the nanny thing, started shit all of which he DIDNT give back to her meanwhile he's walking on eggshells as if he's talking to a 10 year old having a tantrum. There's NO equality in their arguments.
Trish, he's literally acting like a big brother that cares about you... He has no obligation to you, and he CLEARLY cares for you and more calm than most of your exes when you lash out like this.
you realize she’s upset because he kept getting more and more rude with his jokes? and y’all are acting like she just got upset for no reason? i understand why you hate her or whatever but please stop acting like she randomly got upset.
I don't see it that way. I see Ethan exploiting Trish and all the sensational mistakes and embarrassing things about her and tearing her down. Then apologizing and asking to do tik toks cause he's watching several bags walk out of the studio.
Trisha: ::admits to having pretended to like Ethan to "be nice":: Trisha directly afterwards: "You're fake" What a manipulative narcissist. People like that are the worst kind of people.
Ethan is absolutely smashing the costumes. I was nervous he would half-ass them because Trisha talked hers up so much, but oh man this guy went ALL in. This is what I love to see!!!
She is trying to hurt him because she feels attacked and misunderstood. The trauma really shows in her and a lot of you don't understand that and insult her instead.
it wasn’t one sided literally Ethan kept pushing and pushing talking shit abt her relationship like holy shit couldn’t you see how condescending and offensive he was and couldn’t stop picking at her and knowing Trisha like she snaps at some point and starts to be mega nasty towards him but IT WAS DEFENCE and you could see like that all poured out yk. Plus the thing abt pills I feel like it was said before on the podcast and it was never like super private and like she was in the wrong bc it’s never fair to bring it up but watching this again I think Ethan was really trying to get a reaction from her and he was very like unsympathetic towards her with no self awareness. It’s not like I’m completely on Trishas side cuz the things she said abt their marriage were hateful but it’s TOTALLY NOT OKAY TO NOT BLAME ETHAN LIKE HELLO??? HE WAS CONSTANTLY UNDERMINING TRISHAS AND MOSES RELATIONSHIP BRO. how can ppl miss that
He said multiple times to her “I don’t think your relationship is gonna work out” “You get bored of having sex with the same guy” then when she says “no i don’t think so, moses is a good guy” she’s calm.. so how is that not rude ..??
@@viviangarcia7869 It's different because Trisha has said those things multiple times that hinted at her issues with keeping a man and also how she gets bored easily. Ethan never once said he settled with Hila or that he's only with her because he has no one else. That's absurd and insulting to Hila. He's insanely lucky to have found and kept her and everyone knows that, especially him.
The whole fight was Trish throwing EVERYTHING she has at the wall. She was trying to hurt him anyway she can, bringing up his channel, his bad guests, the money he makes, his relationship/marriage, his family, etc. Ethan is actually really cool for staying so calm the whole time and being able to argue every point without getting emotional. Trish is very toxic. I don't think a passive, nice guy like Moses is what she needs. She needs help, but she seems to be trapped in her own head to get legit help.
She's needs someone who won't take her shit, then she needs that person to leave her. She shouldn't be with ANYONE, let alone a poor nice guy. Nobody deserves her, and she KNOWS it.
Even tho her comment wasn't right in the first place, I don't think it was meant to shit on Hila. What she meant was that Ethan was only staying with her because no one else would take him, or at least that's how I took it.
She is her own worst enemy. At least he sincerely apologized. She's SO self destructive. Takes everything farrr too personally. It's sad. She knew Ethan before she signed up for this. You can't change people!
actually, people assume she has bpd, and i relate to her very much. more often than i’d like i sometimes push people away because of it - leaving them before they can leave me. people CAN change though, and people can improve, so your comment is a little unfair. she just needs help, and that’s just how it is.
With peace and love, I didn't say people can't change. I said we can't change people...I encourage personal positive change as often as possible! Thank God we can make the decision to change our behaviour if need be. Things are changing around us 24/7 so we have to be open to change. I welcome it! But it's up to the individual. Never put it on yourself to change someone. I wish I learned that the 2nd or even 3rd time I fell for it. There are different types of BPD. I was diagnosed in my 20s while in university by a shrink I saw maybe twice. Majority of people can relate to symptoms. Especially after this last year! Hasn't come up with my current psychiatrist of 15yrs. I don't feel labels are that important. Just advice and accountability to develop and keep healthy habits. I love Trish and have been watching her from the start. She's at least aware and trying to educate and better herself I can relate to her in many ways. If she was perfect the way she is I don't think she would feel so tormented....I don't believe "perfect" exists. We all deal differently but only we can make the decision to change. Hopefully with strong friend/family support. She has that now and you can see the difference in her ways and her energy. I don't know how people do this full time! The stress!🙈 Even if it is something you love, you are completely putting yourself out there to be judged by the world. Definitely takes courage....or you are lucky to be like Ethan and just give zero fucks lol. But even he has his limits as we have seen. I absolutely love this duo! I'm watching this one for the second time 🙃
Ethan the only one who apologizes and Trisha says “I am not sorry” and then accuses Ethan of being the person who never apologizes. Haha way to be the better person Ethan
So watching back again it really hits the fan after her talking about her parents caring more about the house then the kids in her parents divorce and saying that she turned out fine. Then she tries to turn it to Ethan saying he didn’t turn out fine. I think the real trigger here wasn’t really being called crazy by Ethan. I think it’s talking about her parents. It’s unresolved trauma and not excepting her past. Ethan has called her crazy before but Trisha can’t except when he says she didn’t turn out fine because Trisha is trying to believe her childhood was good. Peace and love Trisha get some help. Love you Ethan papa bless! ✌️
Ethan *Having a full meltdown meltdown with his brother-in-laws lady friend in front of thousands while having his eyebrows shaved off and makeup done like uncle fester* just makes this a whole lot better.
I feel so bad for Ethan. He legit looked like he felt really bad. And she just digs in. And you can't say to someone "that's not personal.." in reference to the pills.. she doesn't know how he feels about it. And she just wants Moses to himself so it's like she pushes him away from his family. Even if he isn't close to his mom, she doesn't need to put a wedge further in there. She went way too far. She talks about people who put down others and women's bodies... She wasn't better this episode. Shaming him for his pill thing, his guests, his "dying podcasts", saying trashing him and Hilas relationship every podcast. She is just as bad. I have really liked her lately and this was crazy. I know that's part of her charm but, not this. And BELLE DELPHINE. lol whoa
She could have just said "don't call me crazy, I don't like it, don't do it again." and set a hard boundary against it. instead she just goes wild and tries to weaponize something against him.
it’s hard to set boundaries when you know you have an audience. it’s easier to let shit slide when you know others are watching because sometimes you can feel like you’ll be made fun of for setting the boundary. he pushed her until she broke. what trisha said was unacceptable but she had just told ethan that her dream is to have kids and he tells her she isn’t ready for kids? my feelings sure would be hurt if someone who’s supposed to be my friend shut down my dreams (multiple times) that easily.
@@7layerburritohe never said that she isn’t ready for kids lol he said he she doesnt know what it’s like to be a busy parent to a young baby because she was being a smartass to him about his parenting she was literally in the wrong and let’s shit spiral for drama so it’s her fault.
@@m1sniperdamn .. rose glasses.. take ‘em off before laughing at someone who makes a factual point. She says stop, she’s dramatic, she lets it go and build up till she can’t take it anymore which btw is what women in the industry have had to do to/endure .. until she snapped. her issues are very valid. CONSTANTLY TRYING TO EMBARRASS HER GEEZ
I know such a great husband. Trisha is used to being used like a condom from random men, so she has zero concept of a legitimate marriage. Her engagement to Moses is ass because I guarantee you that shit won’t last.
@@maleighaabeyta9086 i think you're misunderstanding my point. i agree with you. i'm saying, in other words, if someone told my husband of 15 years that the only reason he's still with me is because he has no other options, i would take it as a backhanded insult that they thought i was only worth staying with if there were no other options available. i know this is not the actual case with Ethan/Hila. but Trisha's comment was equally insulting to both of them. whether it was intended or not.
Honestly, I get so awkward when people are fighting around me but I’m completely different when I’m the one arguing with someone in front of others cause you’re like blinded by rage in that moment and aren’t thinking of the ones around you 😅
shes obviously projecting. she was just saying how she wants a child and family which ethan has yet she acts like his life is sad when its one she seems to desire
i knoww and when she said he has "no other options" my mouth DROPPED like wtf. why can't you accept the fact that they are happy, healthy, and content with each other
He made fun of her how she can’t be a good mother ( knowing she has problem with getting pregnant) he made fun of her on how her relationships don’t last and what not and y’all still say trish is wrong ? How
Is Ethan clean now? I had no idea he had a past w pills. I'm a heroin addict in long term recovery, I'm feeling a stronger connection w Ethan over this, I've been out of the loop with h3 the last 2 years and just getting caught up.
Yep me! Can't believe she said she doesn't care about Moses and his family - AKA Ethan's wife. Seeing Trisha in a whole different light going through these podcasts WOW.
I like how he was able to recognize Trisha’s lashing out as her being really hurt. She was doing EVERYTHING she could to hurt him, and instead of being mean like she was he apologized and was patient with her. She needs a friend like that. She was 100% behaving like a child, but he took the time to listen to her and understand why it hurt her feelings. I don’t think she has many people in her life that try to understand her, because she goes on the offensive immediately.
Yeah even though she was out of line, given her past and the shit people she has run with, I don't hate her. Hopefully Ethan can see that and isn't mad. I think she could really be helped by having someone (Ethan) exemplify apologizing and forgiveness
She doesn’t deserve his patience tho. The stuff she said was so out of line, why put Ethan through that. Everything she said about Ethan is what she thinks about herself
Trisha is getting very defensive and it's just because Ethan called her crazy, she claims she doesn't care about what people say about her, but it does bother her, and then instead of admitting it bothers her, she says hurtful and low blow insults to those who are close to her. I can tell Ethan wants to understand her side of things but it's hard for him when she went off on him. 😔
She literally did exactly what he said she does. She just said she didn’t like any of her bfs family knowing it’s gonna cause friction between all of them.
I can tell he has an extremely good therapist or support system. It seems that he is very aware of what is happening during conflict, and instead of going straight to anger and retaliation, he learned that de-escalation is actually the right tool. With some people, it takes a lot of time for de-escalation to work, and for others it never works. When it ceases to work, that's when it is out of your control and you have to make peace with the fact that the problem just cannot resolve with one party.
The consistent "Should we resolve this? Can we resolve this?" were so sincere and genuine and it reminds me of a very understanding dad talking to a teenager. Ethan I may not side with you on a lot of things, but the latter quarter of the episode showed me how compassionate and rational you can be, even under pressure.
@@shoookethtons3515 exactly. He had no clue and then once he did and tried to apologize the situation was already too far gone for her to just get out of that mindset. I hope having these closer relationships makes her want to work on herself and her social relationships more, but thats all up to her and the place she's in rn. Ethan is obviously willing to be there to work through it if she wanted to. Maybe one day she will.
So watching back again it really hits the fan after her talking about her parents caring more about the house then the kids in her parents divorce and saying that she turned out fine. Then she tries to turn it to Ethan saying he didn’t turn out fine. I think the real trigger here wasn’t really being called crazy by Ethan. I think it’s talking about her parents. It’s unresolved trauma and not excepting her past. Ethan has called her crazy before but Trisha can’t except when he says she didn’t turn out fine because Trisha is trying to believe her childhood was good. Peace and love Trisha get some help. Love you Ethan papa bless! ✌️
Taking pills does not automatically make someone crazy, however, using that information to attempt an assassination of someone's character with the sole purpose to destroy said person's credibility and "prove" that they are crazy makes you crazy.
That’s not crazy. It’s a coping mechanism. U have to understand her very traumatizing past and mental health issues. So being called crazy is really hurtful for her since she’s tried so hard to get better. She just wanted to hurt him back the way she felt hurt by him. Don’t think so shallow, there’s are many layers to this.
She really tried to use “I can see why you’ve been with the same person for 12 years” as an insult......girl......
Yikes imagine thinking being in a long-term healthy relationship with the person you love and starting a family with them is a bad thing
Ikr lol
I think what she meant to say is that no one else will be with him so he has held on to the same person for 12yrs. Stupid but, I think that’s what she was referring to
@@GM-vp8zp yeah she tried to make it seem like that’s what she meant but she was so clearly projecting because deep down she wishes she could have a relationship that lasted that long
I can see why you're in a stable, lasting relationship.... 👀
The fact that he’s having a dead serious 20min fight dressed like Uncle Fester is incredible
😂
Someone is going to be watching this highlight years from now thinking why the fuck is he dressed like uncle fester.
@@mikedowning8506 thats already happening rn
A very sad uncle fester at the end of the podcast man
He's an amazing Uncle Fester. This look needs to be a staple of H3
Trisha: all I I want is to be married and have a child
Ethan: I’m married and have a child
Also Trisha: your life is sad and depressing
She’s a nut job her voice alone is cringe
nah he said shes gonna be a bad mother and her relationship will fail. Its really hurts when people tell you over and over "oh yall gonna break up". No wonder she got triggered
your
underrated comment
@@annaann4658 he said her and Moses would be good parents
The absurdity of watching Ethan try to resolve a serious issue and look all sad at the end while in full uncle fester cosplay has me in tears
Trisha: "I don't care about it (the money of the highlight videos)"
> literally brings it up every single episode, multiple times
TRUTH
If you payed for half the set and the up front costs and would split the money that the crew gets then yes she can get money from the highlights but she talks in a hypocritical circle so often is insane how she thinks she is right when she is wrong. No one is more childish than her the end of the podcast proves it
Loopy
Near everything she says is just projecting her own issues
i CAN NOT believe this content is free.
RIGHT
Tlc level shit
And actually legit, not acting. Haha
It has ads
My exact thoughts watching them fight at the end lmao
trish: shames ethan for not knowing who patrick star is
also trish: doesn’t know ab the holocaust
plus she thought someone invented gravity 😭😭
@@bellafellaa yess hahah peace and love to her but she’s so clueless sometimes
Legit thought Egypt was fake 😂😂 and doesn’t know who won WWII lmfaooo
didnt she think the twin towers were in ethans vape nation vid or smth
@@vasquez2807 ahahah whaaat
The whole thing with him telling Moses do not get her pregnant and saying they shouldn’t have a baby is what set this whole thing off… 😢
Ok but it was a pretty obvious thing to say to her seeing as how toxic she used to be back then.
What set this off is how mentally unstable she is
She deserves it she can’t raise no damn kid to save her life.
Sure but it's still rude of him especially the way he said it. @@Jupiter9999
I think it was more about him commenting on her mental state than having kids.
“That’s why you’ve been with the same person for 12 years.” Why does she think that’s an insult??
literally like😳😳..
She's projecting about how unhappy she is
Right like that’s a good thing
Haha seriously, like uh yeah that’s called being married??? Tf
bruh who knows 💀💀💀
Moses sitting down and saying give it time, telling Ethan he loves him and then going to support trisha. He is so fucking pure. I'm so glad trisha has him in her life and Ethan too... saying just go with her Moses bc he wants some one w her to support her and not feeling left alone, trisha is so lucky to have this support system
100%. Not easy to find someone like this at all. Super rare. No offence to people with BPD, but we need people who have a high level of patience.
hes actually the sweetest!
I had the same thought lol
after all she's been through she deserves good people in her life, papa bless you all!
He's with trisha in the first place. Moses definitely has some secrets lmao, but he has been good to her from what it looks like
They’re like siblings. You can literally call this family drama.
It seems deeper than that but ok
lol
Well Trisha’s fiancé is Ethan’s brother in law. So they’re literally family.
Siblings in law
No its highkey toxic lol. Trisha is lowkey insane. She is acting like 1000% me when im hurt n i dont have any control over my BPD. This has really helped me see things from third view point. Damn. Im shook.
She lashes out and attacks when she gets embarrassed. It’s a destructive defence mechanism.
THIS!!!
U put that really well. Also, you can really see this in the muckbang she did with Chris klemmens, or however, u spell his name
Literally shut up, women can never make mistakes good lord
@@AC-ny3rsit’s not her making mistakes though, she’s an unstable person
@@AC-ny3rs where in that comment do u see that person defending her lmao u incels r just obsessed with making everything abt genders
Trisha "well, you look unhappy in life..."
Ethan, dressed as uncle fester.
fake smiling all the time isn’t being happy Trisha
loooool this cracked me up
This is the one
I actually laughed at this comment lmao😂
good comment lol
Ethan handled this a lot better than I ever could imagine.
Right
At the risk of sounding too deep, I think this podcast is good for both of them.
@@sprokitt66 Definitely not good for Ethan. He doesn't have to endure that toxicity, there's nothing positive coming out of it.
He inspires me.
Personally his composer was very impressive.
The Halloween outfits made this discussion seem like a fever dream.
This is hilariously accurate!
lmao
HAHAHA
😭😭😭😭
AHHH AHAHA
If you watch this episode knowing they get into a fight you can see Trisha slowly getting madder. Instead of standing up for herself, she digs her heels in and amps up the sex talk, the ditzy talk etc. Ethan thinks she's being playful and keeps meeting her energy until she gets so mad she explodes. From her perspective, he's picking at her the whole show. He does say some really hurtful things, but because of her reaction, he thinks she's playing along. She's not.
what hurtful things does he say to her that u think
@@Dkfhebdbebdbebdb”you’re not ready for kids”
@@jasminrodriguez5513that’s not mean it’s a hundred percent honest.
no it was the constant jabs at her relationship, weight, mental state, etc. i can give you time stamps if you need it. he pushed and pushed and pushed. yes she said some wrong things and i’m not discrediting that but to think he played no part is ridiculous
@@serenjuls7 yeah they were both being toxic in this episode, but people only see what trish did because she blew up while ethan was able to stay calm. he constantly went on about how her relationship is doomed, she's crazy, all of her relationships fail, all of her friendships fail, telling her that her childhood fucked her up, she shouldn't have kids, she shouldn't get married, pushing her to tell stories about her SA, saying she's not good enough for Moses. trisha has a lot of faults but that would get to anyone
She really tried insulting him by saying “you’re in a happy marriage”
i couldn't believe my ears
“Ok wellll your life sucks and mine is awesome and your marriage is blah blah blah blah”
That is the most kindergarten thing I’ve ever heard anyone! That is a response when you don’t have anymore good comebacks and you’re seriously jealous….she just said how happy she is for them about their engagement and happy they were trying for a another baby…are you happyyyyyy orrrrrrtr what trisha?????? What a baby she is
@@GoldLeafPress what?????translate in english....
@@GoldLeafPress talk English BIMBO
Making Moses choose isn’t a good look, Trisha. I love that Ethan straight up was like “you don’t have to choose, Moses”
Trisha is the definition of crazyyyy. 3 of my exes acted just like her there’s no way im gon stay w someone like tht no matter how hot they are😂
And that’s why she pushes everyone away lol. Jason had to choose between his family and friends ☝🏼 she’s so pathetic. She enters every podcast saying how much she’s happy with the family and really loves hila, she’s so gorgeous, their son is so cute they’re so happy.... to have fun trying to conceive in your sad life.....
@Sofa King I gave people chances..... thts my problem
can we talk about how Ethan is probably the only creator who has collabed with Trisha and actually cares when he genuinely upsets her?? like yes he provoked her and they both said mean things but Trisha was still going in on him and he was apologizing and trying to mend it depsite her still being nasty... you can tell he actually cares about her and didn't turn this into huge clout
I would say he only does that minimally. He might not want anything bad to happen to her, but he definitely exerts this feeling of superiority over her. He treats her like a spectacle, and he acts like she’s too stupid to realize it but she clearly got tired of it by the end of this episode. The title of the show is Frenemies, yet its them discussing her personal life most of the time rather than a mutual discussion of topics.
As much as he might not agree with her, he doesn’t treat her like an equal, and it’s kind of gross watching him act like he needs to guide her. If he genuinely wants to help her, he probably shouldn’t be doing that in a monetised video. I don’t really want to watch a show where someone with mental health issues is backed into a corner and judged when it’s just supposed to be a regular podcast. Not that I’m a fan of Trisha either, but she’s still a person.
I felt so bad for him I think he really got hurt 😭
@@melatmekbib7592 I don’t think so, I think he was largely caught off guard. At the beginning of episode 5, he mentions how he’s talked about this issue before.
That apology from him was farrrr too soon after the horrible things he said about her "this is why you're a dangerous person" "this is why you can't keep friends" etc. Hideous argument overall but the apology was so early that it wasn't genuine
@@shirinatron She didn’t even deserve one she said countless times she isn’t gonna apologize to him when she brought up his family and said they were messed up and said that he takes pills when he honestly didn’t even try to offend her he just said she’s crazy as a joke because they always joke with each other but she blew up over that comment and he tried to stop the fight from happening so he said sorry even if it wasn’t genuine. He just wanted the fight to be over but clearly Trisha was still mad.
Ethan literally didn't bring up medication at all. Trisha was the one who associated 'taking medication' to 'being crazy'
she proactively critiques herself
Mental gymnastics 🤸♀️
And then throwing down his personal business on the podcast because she ran with that and then he even said sorry yet she couldn’t be sorry for what she said
She’s triggered it’s like that. You feel attacked and your brain goes haywire and starts making shit up.
Ethan: Joking around
Trisha: Crosses the line
Ethan: Gets a little upset that she said that
Trisha: How dare you be even slightly upset by the horrible things I say to you!!!
Ethan: It's fine
Trisha: No it's not, I hate you now
Accurate
Exactly!
In a nutshell!
Trisha: proceeds to project all of HER issues, feelings, and insecurities onto Ethan.
Precise and factual 🤣
He called it. She’s projecting, she can’t face her own mistakes but she calls out everybody else’s and you can’t hold her accountable because she doesn’t even hold herself accountable, and I think she stormed off because she wasn’t getting away with her shit here and she couldn’t take it.
this is so true
Why would you come to do a show where the other host is seemingly disgusted at you, cannot listen you for a second and is the minute you say something chanching the subject with really mean way: "I hate this stupid dumb bitch, I cannot stand her" written all over his face bringing out subjects you clearly don't want to talk about and when you are explaining something it's like this weard investigation mode thing to see you slip up. Ethan's temper tantrum when losing in his own who is smarter challenge and uncomfortable upset told a lot was it in the last time they shot together. I don't care for Trisha but c'mon people aren't unbiased if they think Ethan acts any professional in these and that he isn't mean as fuck. I totally get why she got fed up, still I don't have to like her tho but she wasn't acting mean towards Ethan from the get go. Goofing, yeahyeah.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 shut up
@@aleksisuuronen5969 I skipped to the end cause that’s what I came here for. But I definitely think at the end he was being genuine when he apologized. Trisha definitely went overboard when she brought up his addiction and talked about his family in that way.
@Ellie Kemp I’ve been watching Trisha since I can remember but she definitely has changed. A lot.
What Trisha doesn’t realize is, Ethan is the friend she NEEDS.
im not so sure, like yes he calls her off on her shit but sometimes he just presses her to get a reaction and thenn when he does he calls her crazy or says that thats why her relationships always fail or something like that, when he was clearly pushing her into that state... just my opinion, both of them did wrong
He tries to call her out on her bs but that doesn’t work with Trisha. Then when he’s playful she decides to misinterpret things to attack him because she has no valid way to respond to his criticism.
@@idkwc694 this is true but i feel like they could benefit frm a friendship with eachother
So watching back again it really hits the fan after her talking about her parents caring more about the house then the kids in her parents divorce and saying that she turned out fine. Then she tries to turn it to Ethan saying he didn’t turn out fine. I think the real trigger here wasn’t really being called crazy by Ethan. I think it’s talking about her parents. It’s unresolved trauma and not excepting her past. Ethan has called her crazy before but Trisha can’t except when he says she didn’t turn out fine because Trisha is trying to believe her childhood was good. Peace and love Trisha get some help. Love you Ethan papa bless! ✌️
@@idkwc694 Yes, finally someone who see this.
Man rewatching these is like thinking back on your childhood and finding all the little cracks that you couldnt see as a kid. The moment Trisha got even the least actually offended she turned into a cornered animal. Like she was going to "win" against Ethan at all costs. And when Ethan doesnt respond to her jabs like she thought he would she cant concede and just keeps spiraling. Ethan isnt a saint but hes trying his best.
Fr! It’s insane to see how quick she switches. She’s entertaining to watch but it’s actually scary at the same time! When things don’t go her way, she switches into a rude and moody woman…
Watching these for the first time. I cant wait to see to see where this goes. I 100% would have dropped her so fast after the pill crap..
Except bringing up the pill thing was 100% justified. He starts by mocking her for being "crazy" she defended herself by saying she was just more honest about her flaws. Ethan then claims to be not only more sane, but more honest. Trisha defends herself again by bringing up an example where that's not the case and suddenly it's too far. This is textbook gaslighting.
Ethan's mysogyny was on full display here and his incel audience loved it.
Ethan was rude to trisha for half an hour before the pill thing. They both love the drama
@@nf4866Ah yes, the incel audience that's majority women viewers😂
She totally threw that pill story in his face. That’s why she got so defensive when he called her out. So gross
Yup
She’s projecting her own problems onto Ethan. A lot of what she said was just compete bs and coming out of her mouth sounded exactly like something that she went through...
The Uncle Fester and Jennifer's Body costumes made the heated exchange that much more ridiculous. Trisha's bloody lips made her scowling and cold comebacks that much more bitter. Kinda loved the trainwreck of it all, hope Trisha comes back to squash the beef.
Trisha: I'm not money hungry
Trisha: proceeds to talk about her cut of the profits in every podcast so far
Rewatching and picking up all of Dan’s laughs make these episodes so much better
Trisha: You dont talk about your pill problem…
Dan: Haha!
She learned the term “gaslighting” and has never stopped using it
And never in the correct way.
And "weaponizing"
I honestly think she uses it because she thinks It makes her sound intelligent. Maybe she should pickup a history book first before trying to use such a " big word" for her tiny brain
also, wasn't she the one gaslighting him by telling him that he has a sad family life etc. when he was saying no to that?
She doesn’t even know the meaning of Gaslighting
The fact that ethan is dressed as uncle fester while he navigates Trisha's shitshow breakdown is honestly poetry
Modern poetry
LMAO
haAHHA
It’s art
Shitshow breakdown😂
The way she passively aggressively tries to wish him luck with the podcast rubbed me the wrong way. Like she's just trying to get close to Ethan and his family, and get into all his personal information just to air it all out at the perfect time. Don't have a good feeling about her.
If I didn't know a Bitch when I saw one, I do now.
It’s not a feeling. It’s a consistent pattern of behavior she’s shown. She’s literally still talking about the Vlog Squad and her and Jason haven’t been together in years.
"Sooo pathetic: beach weekend, eating room service, trying to get pregnant" That... That sounds like paradise actually 😂
I've always found it sad that he has a wife that adores him and an adorable son. Poor ethe
Ethan really hit the nail on the head of why she can't retain friends consistently. She weaponizes the things she learns about them through friendship the second they do something she doesn't like. That's such an untrustworthy personality trait.
Yea, hate people like that. This is why you don’t share personal stuff like that to just “friends” only share that type of stuff with best friends who you’ve known for a long time. But Ethan even said that wasn’t something he really cared about so it doesn’t matter if he told her or not.
Ugh I had a friend like this but she took it even further. She literally had blackmail files saved on her phone, videos of people doing drugs and talking about illegal activity, recording of very private conversations, all acquired in secret, in case they ever “turned on her”. She saved screenshots of her ‘friends’ every post on social media, she’d have screenshots from my twitter, tumblr, Instagram, Facebook, everything I had she checked regularly and saved anything she thought she could use against me.
I guess she was so paranoid of people “turning on her” because when people ran for the fucking hills, which everyone has to do eventually, she determined that it was everyone else who was a villain and she had no choice but to have blackmail material to discredit them when they started sticking up for themselves. I was her oldest friend, 12+ years of making excuses for her behaviour before cutting that toxicity out of my life.
She really is actually dangerous
@@smexipenguin I can see Trisha doing the same thing
she really let her true colors show lol. ethan is no saint but trisha is extremely manipulative and as soon as she get’s triggered she immediately projects it onto others. she made a whole argument out of something that wasn’t even said. then insults the man’s wife, family, career, while saying things like “it’s fine, i’m ok”. no. stop making toxic people like this famous. this is dangerous behavior
She definitely showed her true colours here! I'm in shock that she went that far, but I'm not really surprised by her behaviour.
She was projecting SO much & she was boiling on the inside. I would've quickly lost my patience with her.
Guess what, shes probably going back to film again with ethan 😍
@P. S. I hope they don't..she has gone entirely to damn far here on her youtube career and this is most definitely cringe worthy even for Trisha Paytas...Everyone knows that you do not go for the neck talking about his wife..life..everything! Have a great week! Stay safe and healthy..xoxo hydie ❤
@@prekrasnyy8728 You're probably right...have a great week! Stay safe and healthy ❤ xoxo hydie...
Trisha:
I HATE CANCEL CULTURE.”
Trisha: “YOURE NEXT TO BE CANCELLED.”
Really awful human. No wonder she can't keep a partner past a couple months
Right
Yep she literally can’t formulate and stick to her own opinions, could care less about all the money I’d never step close let alone be with someone like her
Ugh I know she doesn’t even hear half the shit she says
Bipolar behaviour, its like she's on a see saw of opinions
How she attacks Ethan is so painful to watch. Going after his past substance abuse problems and trying to frame his happy marriage as a negative is so undeserved, it’s maddening! He doesn’t deserve any of that.
😅😊😊😊
😊😊😊😊
fr and he ain’t even abuse ts he just popped some pills in his damn apartment when bored
Not gonna lie she's Def doing ice or blow u can tell by the way she's talking
Y’all aren’t being fair, Ethan always brought up her past and randomly says shit like “I don’t think you and Moses gonna last” like tf?
The ending of this podcast is hard to watch because Ethan understands her and actually wants the best for her, and even apologized for calling her "crazy" which triggered her into anger. Trish seems to push people away who she thinks will hurt her, and tells Ethan that "his life is sad, he has sadness in his eyes, he is unhappy in life" which is not the angle to take, only a way to try and hurt him. I hope Trisha can realize that her and Ethan are friends, genuine friends, and that she continues with the Frenemies podcast because I've really enjoyed them together.
At like 1:24:53 I felt sooo bad for Ethan, you can see the sadness
I noticed she started to get upset when Ethan started mocking her for "not turning out fine" and then she went full defensive attack on him. I mean I can see why she got mad but also I think Ethan was just goofing around and didn't meant any harm. So yeah, I hope they make up soon since I also really enjoy the podcast :(
When Ethan says “why would I want other options” when Trisha mentions how he’s been with the same person for 12 years, he looks and sounds so hurt, it made me really sad:(
I saw that too, he kept it in for the whole time she was yelling at him until that point. His face made me so upset :(
I know, as if Hila isn’t enough for him when he clearly loves her so much and has a child with her? So pure, he wouldn’t even consider anyone else
@Sleeze 1:19:00 is when Trisha talks shit on our angel Hila
@Chris Ruiz she kind has been for a few episodes now. it was hila's a bitch because she didn't want her to babysit, and she doesn't get it because she's not a parent yet. Then to talking about how Ethan would like to date now because hes famous. Just such weird comments.
She can’t understand why Ethan wouldn’t want anybody else because she’s never had a relationship like that. I love Trisha but she’s being so fucking weird in this episode it’s scary
honestly, shout out to Ethan for being so considerate in constantly re-evaluating his approach when he can tell Trisha is struggling. Also, for being one of few people on UA-cam willing to sit down with her and sincerely try to understand why she operates the way she does. I hope she can see her error in divulging Ethan's personal info and the podcast can continue, it's been great fun.
I agree, it was uncalled for to bring up his past with something that heavy. His comment could be considered a jab but hers was a kick to the balls. I do also hope they make up.
What happened?
he just didn’t want to lose the money pig, that’s all there is.
@@danielmardones5185 ethan pressed her on exact details of her being molested at her job by a hollywood guy when she kept telling him to stop. In like the second episode
@@sarcofaygo6218 I do agree that it was not cool to do that as well but it’s a show and I do think it was played up for the show even if it was not a good move. But this episode was different. She came for blood... plus on the episode you talking about he did eventually stop talking about it.
The gaslighting on Trisha's part is CRAZY. The way she says "good for you" so passive aggressively to get a rise out of ethan (around 1:18:36) and then when ethan calls her out for out, she immediately acts as though she was sincere because he embarrassed her.
If Trisha doesn’t come back, maybe dress up as her and she could find it....flattering? Hit or miss really
lmfaoooo i need Ethan to do this and really lean into it
Great idea
I love this idea
Dude she legit tried to make fun of him for being married for 12 years.
YeA... That's damn funny. Both seem lil confused when shit is heated up
the people having such a visceral hatred for trisha are kind of hilarious. they’re just fuming at a random white girl acting dumb and obnoxious for fun while getting hundreds of thousands of dollars off their anger.
@@matcha9250 well okay... so im not making any money off of this i hope you know that. And i definitely don't hate Trisha, I kinda stan her tbh, her blatant honesty. But on the other hand I had know idea about some of her mental disabilities until the recent episode where Dr drew came in. However you can't be mad at me for pointing out something that was definitely rude, now we all know she didn't mean it.
She’s basically braindead 🤷🏻♂️
she tries to hurt his feelings like a 12 year old would
im amazed how a person can live for over 30 years and still be mentally stuck in middle school
Trisha pointing out that Ethan has been with Hila for 12 years as a negative, scares me about how she will treat her own marriage...
She's probably just jealous bc Ethan and Hila have a real relationship and are actually in love
When I watched that I thought it was stupid to bring that up as a bad thing. Being married for 12 is a big accomplishment and it means that he found his “ true love” ,so good for home and I hope they have many years together.
She’s with Moses to get closer to Ethan
Well HE was the first one to point out to why her relationships doesn’t work like ARE YOU SERIOUS??? he brought it up stop fucking defending that asshole
@@noodle3851 she was constantly poking at him. she even brought up Ethan's pill addiction. stop defending her.
seeing how chill ethan and moses were back then makes me so sad now. the "love you!" from moses to ethan made my heart hurt.
This Addams Family reboot is interesting.
LOL
LMAOOOOO
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Trish: “I’ll babysit your kid, you can trust me”
(A few minutes later)
Trish: *exposes his secrets and attacks his whole personality and life*
Literally
Facts
Yeah definitely letting her watch his kid/kids is such a dumb idea. Poor Moses btw. Dude what an annoying unstable gf. She probably will be back on this show though haha. Ethan is massively helping her.
"I can see why youve been with the same person for 12 years"
Trish baby... Thats not an insult...
It certainly is an insult... to Hila that is.
@@GodSin777 more of a compliment still
In her small brain it is insult
“I can see why you’ve found your soul mate that you can be with for the rest of your life”
Wow burn
Exactly its an achievement not an insult lool
once she felt threatened she immediately started grasping for any negative thing she could.
OMG ETHANS COSTUME THE SCARIEST THING IVE SEEN. WHY DOES IT LOOK SO REAL
WAIT WTF IT LOOKS REAL BECAUSE IT IS????? NOOOOO ETHAN
Ethan is the dark lord
I love it
WHY IS THAT CREEPY DUDE USING ETHANS VOICE NOOOOOO ETHAN AJFHJFBNKGM YOU’RE AN IMPOSTER
He matches with his background too!
Trish exposing how Ethan used to be addicted to pills really rubbed me the wrong way especially since her justification for it was that Ethan implied she was crazy because she is “off her pills” which is just an outright and complete lie. He never implied that at all, she just exposed him because she felt like it
@@Ebc11 That explains it- but it doesn't justify it, though... hopefully she'll apologize in private or something, because reacting like this (even if it's due to trauma) shouldn't be excused. It's not healthy and she needs to know that.
@@klutzii9137 this is just another one of her mutiple personalities another one of her personality will apologize and the other will hate ethan
I've learned that you can't tell some people certain things because they will throw it in your face. You can still love the person but it won't be the same after..
No the key issue that you’re missing is what you said backwards. He didn’t imply she’s crazy because she’s off her meds, as you and her both say. What happened is that he inferred (in her mind) that she was off her meds by saying she was _crazier_ *than him*
So he basically IN HER OWN MIND as it were, implied that she needs to be on meds just by saying the word crazy in any form towards her.
Yeah Ethan never said that, why should she said he did
Trisha: “I can see why you’ve been with the same person for 12 years. You have no other options and quite frankly I don’t blame you”
Also Trisha LITERALLY 8 seconds later (I counted): “I can be mean like you but I’m not going to”
Also like, he mentions that he doesn’t see their relationship lasting and she pulls that? He could have jumped on that, he could have.
She is the queen of gaslighting
This was disgusting!! So shocked by how she behaved. I feel so sad for her, thinking the way she behaves is acceptable. I can also see why her relationships fail...
@Ego Debt yeah exactly. I also have bpd and this really hit me hard just to see how she flipped on him so quickly, I felt really bad for ethan.
That comment was sooo rude!! That made me so angry ... Wonder if things will still be good with Moses and his family after that comment - she truly does not recognize or care how her behavior impacts other people
She's happy and thriving but she punched Moses, sexually harassed Ethan, bullies Hila and the crew and talks badly about everyone around her including people who genuinely try to be good to her.
whats the sexual harrasment towards ethan?
@@danielabaroni4020 I’d like to know too
@@Pcplover123 I think they mean the sexual comments etc she has made towards Ethan throughout the podcast
she’s literally insane but her whole thing about “white people not getting cancelled” she ignores that it strongly applies to her
@@codysharples5526 ohhhhhh I see I see thank you
she is so vile. coming at him for a pill addiction, his marriage, and his success and then bashing his and her fiancé’s family by calling them awful. she has the maturity of a 16 year old. the end was hard to watch
I’m bingeing all of the old content and she’s seriously so passive aggressive and manipulative to him all through frenemies! Focuses wayyyy too much on his weight and his sex life
Lmao all this is cuz ethan was like “haha bestie u crazy” lol. Same shit she used to do with jason nash (not that i like/support him) but they used to joke about being fat/old/unattractive and trisha would get TRIGGERED randomly and turn it into something else at unpredictable times
16 is rather generous
She is ! Omg! How does Ethan wants to be friends with her?! I would never want someone like her in my life!
I hate her now
Also I love how she talked about people being misogynistic but she literally low key puts Hila down on the regular and other women. Shes more harmful to women than Ethan is 100%
She basically puts anyone down who has a shred of class and doesn't show their dirty butthole to the world. If you think that's gross, you're shaming her 😂
Ethan was actually being nice and apologized in the end and she’s still jabbing him. No wonder her good relationship end. Self sabotaging.
Dude I was shocked.
He was being so sweet but she was still going
And I felt bad for ethan but it didn't seem like she could get to him at all
It’s BPD dude. I have it too and she’s like the same person as me. So I I can tell you that when she got triggered, her brain started rapid cycling through all the people that have hurt her in her life. And then that gets projected onto Ethan. It does go away over time. But right now she’s splitting and he turned all bad in her head and she felt like she just had to get out of there. And she was making up things he wasn’t even saying. I have that problem as well. It’s like my brain attacks me. And if you try to apologize it doesn’t mean anything because we literally can’t hear it. The wall is already up. It also makes it worse because then her feelings that she believes are real are now being invalidated. I learned this through many years of therapy.
Trisha does say some hurtful things, but you have to see the fact that Ethan is always picking at Trisha and trying to see how much she can handle.
Exactly. He’s looking for a reaction.
Even with both of them having those similar traits they could have done soooo much with this podcast.
He had just gone on a rant about how she would be a bad mom and never have a lasting relationship. Of course she is triggered.!
I don't think he's pushing for a reaction out of her. More so him just joking around with a friend. It's hard to know Trisha's limit when one day she's friendly and able to joke around and stuff and the next she gets triggered at the littlest thing.
@@KrepX3 idk what kind of friends people have but if mine talked to me like he did to Trisha sometimes, we wouldn't be friends long. Plus it's not like they were super close and knew each others limits beforehand.
Trish saying she loves James and jeffery did not age well..
Yeah 😀
Plus Ethan saying he got on with David lol
why what happened
@@zainaalol a lottt
@@elizabethjames1599 i didn’t ask how much happened i’m asking what
She got angry because she knew Ethan's observation about her were correct
let's take a second to appreciate that the pink and black line up
Turns out it cursed everything
I've never had Sushi before.
Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou
I’ve been keeping a close eye on that line up during this series 🤣 last two weeks it’s been slightly off. Was satisfied to see it was on point again this week 🤣🤣🤣
From time to time Ethan was invading the pink table with black arm however
honestly, yes trisha crossed the line just like the many other times she did throughout the show, however watching this back made me realize that some of the things ethan was saying are really triggering. especially about her relationship. given her internal struggles, I can totally see why she got so upset. ethan was making fun of her the whole time. and I don’t think he had bad intentions at all, trisha plays everything off like a joke, so people take the joking too far partly because she allows it. I don’t condone the things she said I’m just saying that I can see why she got so extremely upset, keeping in mind that she struggles so much with her emotions and her mental illness.
and honestly, the guilt should also be put on moses. shit talking about your family to a relatively new relationship is crazy.
Exactly! Finally someone that acknowledges two things can be true at once.
shes def in the wrong. did you not hear her? " i never cared for you" "i dont think about you" "your the person i hate the most in the world" "your addicted to pills"
@@brezio5251did you even read their comment
@@heartbreaker1671 yeah and idgaf if she's bpd mate
the fact that she used his *private* story against him in the end... it was lowkey hard to watch :/
She actually gross. I can ever hate watch her at this point. When she said he was with Hila because he had "no other options" I wanted to slap her silly.
I think that she really feels atack and hurt every time that Ethan calls her crazy and her copy mechanism is to hurt him back
I don't think it's a private story, they talked about ethan did pill in israel on previous podcast.
She's upset because ethan basically called her crazy and shouldn't have kids after she opened up wanting to have one.
Then she try to hurt ethan back, hey you're just as crazy as i am with drug and mental health problem, it's kinda weird for him to be the one who "joke" around that she shouldn't have kids because she's crazy.
As for hila comment, i don't think it's an attack to hila, she basically saying hila is way above his league, no one wants him, that's why he has no other choice but stay with her for 12 years.
Just like ethan constant joke about trish's relationship since the beginning of the podcast. I don't think it's an attack to moses when he said their relationship won't last, don't get married, you guys are moving on too fast, moses could do better, constantly asking moses if he actually love trish, etc.
When Trisha gets mad she goes for the jugular. Like she’ll just say whatever she needs to hurt people as deep as she can
You’re so right about this !!! And it’s so hurtful to be close with people like this because the shit they say always stays with you. Pretty scary ngl
It was so bizarre to watch - like imagine what she’s like behind closed doors. I truly didn’t know a 30+ year old was capable of such immaturity. You could tell she was uncomfortable because he truly wasn’t bothered by what she was saying he was just watching her squirm and try to come up with arguments.
Ethan went for her jugular first, which is 'this is why none of your relationships last'. There is so much truth in that, it ought to hurt badly for her to hear.
@@mch3j Thank you for adding this in the interest of fairness! You covered pretty much everything and I 100% agree. This is a comment I posted yesterday about all the things that contributed to her flipping out:
-Being interrupted
-Ethan complaining the topics are boring
-Ethan saying he thinks this podcast is trash 51:30
-The comment about her diet being so disgusting that her butt must be vile (that was really too far) 57:00
-Ethan saying she doesn't even look close to Megan Fox
-Ethan accusing her of incest, expressing a tonne of disgust towards her
-Insinuating her mother and sister are fcked up
-Telling her she would be a terrible parent
-Stating a child would break her and Moses up and they will never stay together forever
-Jack should have been an asshole towards her, he probably 'saw something'
-58:00 It's pretty insulting to suggest she'd do onlyfns with Theo... I don't think she's insanely immoral like that in real life.
I do the same too, but that’s just my personality it doesn’t mean I’m a shitty person it’s because I think who ever tries to hurt me with words he deserves to be hurt 10x than me so I don’t even regret trying to hurt him/her as much as I can.
she really doesnt see how bitter she is about everything.
You really have to walk on eggshells when it comes to speaking to her. She’ll either get upset or spill your business to everyone. What a lose lose
Big facts
He never walked on eggshells. He says awful things about her all the time. She’s fat, stupid, would be a terrible mother, she’s crazy, her boyfriend willl leave her.
Ethan’s eyebrow tick without eyebrows is the best part of this
i feel so anxious watching this knowing theres a fight coming
Omgggg me rn
Me rn
Flashbacks to childhood with my parents
SAME !!! i always read the comments when starting a new vid and i hate when i know there’s a fight bc i’m just like biting my nails ugh !!!!!!!
literally me rn😂😂
As soon as Trisha feels attacked in the slightest she just low blows people. It’s a pattern in every fight they have
yeah its pretty sad, she has bpd (not an excuse ofc) and thats why she does it. i feel for her but i also understand ethans side. im glad ethan u understands her tho and doesnt see her differently and still loves her
@@roosje2069 same i have bpd, it definitely isnt an excuse. you're aware what you're doing too. you only start to feel bad once you realize the impact. trisha is probably wildly different, she seems to stay with her narrative no matter what
@@ena_ina do people actually black out during these episode, and not even remember what happened, like Trisha said? Or is she saying that to avoid responsibility?
@@srcworm no, you remember and feel intense guilt and shame after. most people with bpd will apologize for it after some time. but then again, trisha has a lot of other issues other than just bpd.
@@roosje2069 I have BPD, it's very hard to control yourself when you're triggered (I hate that word, but it's legit the only way to describe it). You explode and can't control what you say.
BUT even before I learned about what it was, etc, I had common sense not to say "low blow" stuff cos that's just being a bad person. That's not being a logical debator/arguer, that's being emotional (which is purely BPD, but you're lowering yourself).
She may have BPD, but she's allowing herself to revel in it. She's choosing to let herself explode and choosing to make the low blows. That, to me, is her being a bad person. That's less BPD, more choosing to let herself be nasty.
i feel so bad for Ethan watching these years later :(. He literally was so full of love & she would be so hateful towards him
Right! Also Im rewatching all of the episodes… Trisha was very explicit in saying that she was popping zannys since the first episode and I definitely think that contributed to her already emotionally unstable self bc she hasn’t confronted her past trauma like she said. Very sad, I think Ethan talks to her as if they are already friends and Trisha was just on a different planet during this time…
Eh. Ethan was pretty rude too. I don’t think she likes it when he talks negatively about her relationship with Moses and also him talking bad about her family…She took it to the next level by talking about his private stuff. I definitely think she has some BPD tendencies. BPD isn’t an excuse for bad behavior but it explains her behavior. People with that disorder are emotionally intense, super insecure, and not stable in relationships. It’s very challenging because it’s literally your personality and your personality is pretty much set in young adulthood (some psychologist argue in childhood). That said, I think she’s a better person now with a family (stability).
@@d3monsn0wkittyAgreed! I think they will both make up eventually
@@d3monsn0wkittyShe needs to apologise to Ethan for everything she's done cuz even IF Ethan was wrong in anything their back & forth is completely disproportionate 💀 every ep I've watched she's cussed him out, called his wife a bitch to his face multiple times, taken snarky shots about his personal life like the nanny thing, started shit all of which he DIDNT give back to her meanwhile he's walking on eggshells as if he's talking to a 10 year old having a tantrum. There's NO equality in their arguments.
@@sharkisland5931and not only that but constantly thinking that Ethan wanted to have sex with her 💀
Trish, he's literally acting like a big brother that cares about you... He has no obligation to you, and he CLEARLY cares for you and more calm than most of your exes when you lash out like this.
I think its more of if someone shows they care, she leaves and hurts people before someone else does it to her (perceived harm)
you realize she’s upset because he kept getting more and more rude with his jokes? and y’all are acting like she just got upset for no reason? i understand why you hate her or whatever but please stop acting like she randomly got upset.
This is a textbook example of what Borderline Personality Disorder looks like. They should use this in schools.
I don't see it that way. I see Ethan exploiting Trish and all the sensational mistakes and embarrassing things about her and tearing her down. Then apologizing and asking to do tik toks cause he's watching several bags walk out of the studio.
Trisha: ::admits to having pretended to like Ethan to "be nice"::
Trisha directly afterwards: "You're fake"
What a manipulative narcissist. People like that are the worst kind of people.
Ethan still outdoing Trisha with the costumes and it’s not even close
they do own a fire ass clothing brand
Ethan is absolutely smashing the costumes. I was nervous he would half-ass them because Trisha talked hers up so much, but oh man this guy went ALL in. This is what I love to see!!!
Jessie Zus don’t you mean SLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAMMMING
@@trashcollector6184 sorry yes, I meant he's SISTER SLAMMMMMMMING and has absolutely sister SNATCHED the costume award. My apologies!
I thought Trisha would go all out but those costumes of hers aren't really anything special.
Trisha *complains that everyone is fake*
Also Trisha: I never liked you or your family, I was trying to be nice
🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
Nice catch
yea and didn’t she say “fake” after saying that too 💀
She is trying to hurt him because she feels attacked and misunderstood. The trauma really shows in her and a lot of you don't understand that and insult her instead.
@@yayo0 still feel that way?
The fact that she said ‘I can see why you’ve been with Hila for 10 years, you have no other options.‘ blew my mind. She’s so rude
it wasn’t one sided literally Ethan kept pushing and pushing talking shit abt her relationship like holy shit couldn’t you see how condescending and offensive he was and couldn’t stop picking at her and knowing Trisha like she snaps at some point and starts to be mega nasty towards him but IT WAS DEFENCE and you could see like that all poured out yk. Plus the thing abt pills I feel like it was said before on the podcast and it was never like super private and like she was in the wrong bc it’s never fair to bring it up but watching this again I think Ethan was really trying to get a reaction from her and he was very like unsympathetic towards her with no self awareness. It’s not like I’m completely on Trishas side cuz the things she said abt their marriage were hateful but it’s TOTALLY NOT OKAY TO NOT BLAME ETHAN LIKE HELLO??? HE WAS CONSTANTLY UNDERMINING TRISHAS AND MOSES RELATIONSHIP BRO. how can ppl miss that
He said multiple times to her “I don’t think your relationship is gonna work out” “You get bored of having sex with the same guy” then when she says “no i don’t think so, moses is a good guy” she’s calm.. so how is that not rude ..??
@@viviangarcia7869 It's different because Trisha has said those things multiple times that hinted at her issues with keeping a man and also how she gets bored easily. Ethan never once said he settled with Hila or that he's only with her because he has no one else. That's absurd and insulting to Hila. He's insanely lucky to have found and kept her and everyone knows that, especially him.
The whole fight was Trish throwing EVERYTHING she has at the wall. She was trying to hurt him anyway she can, bringing up his channel, his bad guests, the money he makes, his relationship/marriage, his family, etc. Ethan is actually really cool for staying so calm the whole time and being able to argue every point without getting emotional. Trish is very toxic. I don't think a passive, nice guy like Moses is what she needs. She needs help, but she seems to be trapped in her own head to get legit help.
She's needs someone who won't take her shit, then she needs that person to leave her. She shouldn't be with ANYONE, let alone a poor nice guy. Nobody deserves her, and she KNOWS it.
“I can see why you’ve been with the same person for 12 years.” Yeah because they’re married and they don’t get bored of each other dafuq
She literally described herself when she said everything she hated about Ethan
Yeah, self hate is a thing. She was still right though.
Funny how that works right? Like criticising someone is kind of a reflection of how you criticise yourself
yup she's projecting
We psychoanalysing
They have a lot in common in fact
im a girl with Borderline personality disorder... & honestly, watching these arguments helps me understand when I split... sooo thank you?
Trisha keeps insulting his wife as if she’s not an an amazing queen, I’m sorry Trisha that you don’t know what love is bb girl.
Hila is like 1000x a better and more beautiful person than Trish.
Okay but also her brother is in the room?? Tf how does he not care
Even tho her comment wasn't right in the first place, I don't think it was meant to shit on Hila. What she meant was that Ethan was only staying with her because no one else would take him, or at least that's how I took it.
She definitely doesn’t
Do you talk like this in real life or were you the lovechild of a twitter bot and a Xanax addicted Lady Gaga fan?
She is her own worst enemy. At least he sincerely apologized. She's SO self destructive. Takes everything farrr too personally. It's sad. She knew Ethan before she signed up for this. You can't change people!
So why would she change, she is perfect just the way she is
@@suicidedegree9617 bruh!
@@suicidedegree9617 Trisha is that you?
actually, people assume she has bpd, and i relate to her very much. more often than i’d like i sometimes push people away because of it - leaving them before they can leave me. people CAN change though, and people can improve, so your comment is a little unfair. she just needs help, and that’s just how it is.
With peace and love, I didn't say people can't change. I said we can't change people...I encourage personal positive change as often as possible!
Thank God we can make the decision to change our behaviour if need be. Things are changing around us 24/7 so we have to be open to change. I welcome it! But it's up to the individual. Never put it on yourself to change someone. I wish I learned that the 2nd or even 3rd time I fell for it.
There are different types of BPD. I was diagnosed in my 20s while in university by a shrink I saw maybe twice.
Majority of people can relate to symptoms. Especially after this last year!
Hasn't come up with my current psychiatrist of 15yrs. I don't feel labels are that important. Just advice and accountability
to develop and keep healthy habits.
I love Trish and have been watching her from the start. She's at least aware and trying to educate and better herself
I can relate to her in many ways. If she was perfect the way she is I don't think she would feel so tormented....I don't believe "perfect" exists.
We all deal differently but only we can make the decision to change. Hopefully with strong friend/family support. She has that now and you can see the difference in her ways and her energy.
I don't know how people do this full time! The stress!🙈 Even if it is something you love, you are completely putting yourself out there to be judged by the world. Definitely takes courage....or you are lucky to be like Ethan and just give zero fucks lol. But even he has his limits as we have seen. I absolutely love this duo! I'm watching this one for the second time 🙃
Ethan the only one who apologizes and Trisha says “I am not sorry” and then accuses Ethan of being the person who never apologizes. Haha way to be the better person Ethan
Trisha is dumb, taking her seriously will only lead to a brain tumor.
Of course Ethan apologized, he needs Trisha for content and that youtube $$$$
@@suryapande731 hes richer than her and more successful and popular? He also has a family he's set for life bro.
@@suryapande731 he doesn’t need Trisha he’s worth more
So watching back again it really hits the fan after her talking about her parents caring more about the house then the kids in her parents divorce and saying that she turned out fine. Then she tries to turn it to Ethan saying he didn’t turn out fine. I think the real trigger here wasn’t really being called crazy by Ethan. I think it’s talking about her parents. It’s unresolved trauma and not excepting her past. Ethan has called her crazy before but Trisha can’t except when he says she didn’t turn out fine because Trisha is trying to believe her childhood was good. Peace and love Trisha get some help. Love you Ethan papa bless! ✌️
Trisha: "You're the gaslighter"
Also Trisha: literally gaslighting
Ethan could definitely dress up as jeffree star now cause of the no eyebrows
“I don’t care what universe you’re from, that’s GOTTA hurt”
Omigod yesssss
Ethan being uncle fester just makes this a whole lot better.
This made me laugh out loud 🤣
He kinda looks like sleepless Varys.
Love it
Ethan *Having a full meltdown meltdown with his brother-in-laws lady friend in front of thousands while having his eyebrows shaved off and makeup done like uncle fester* just makes this a whole lot better.
Apparently you can’t use asterisks on UA-cam comments! Haha. Tried to fix it for ya!
I feel so bad for Ethan. He legit looked like he felt really bad. And she just digs in. And you can't say to someone "that's not personal.." in reference to the pills.. she doesn't know how he feels about it. And she just wants Moses to himself so it's like she pushes him away from his family. Even if he isn't close to his mom, she doesn't need to put a wedge further in there. She went way too far. She talks about people who put down others and women's bodies... She wasn't better this episode. Shaming him for his pill thing, his guests, his "dying podcasts", saying trashing him and Hilas relationship every podcast. She is just as bad. I have really liked her lately and this was crazy. I know that's part of her charm but, not this.
And BELLE DELPHINE. lol whoa
She's a total malignant narcissist, weak of character and a very fragile ego.
100% agree with what you said!
She’s legitimately histrionic, it wouldn’t shock me if she’s seeing a therapist or being prescribed for it
100% agree with all of this.
@@Peytonscomet you are so right!
She could have just said "don't call me crazy, I don't like it, don't do it again." and set a hard boundary against it. instead she just goes wild and tries to weaponize something against him.
She would say that, but he would always push harder until she exploded.🎉
it’s hard to set boundaries when you know you have an audience. it’s easier to let shit slide when you know others are watching because sometimes you can feel like you’ll be made fun of for setting the boundary. he pushed her until she broke. what trisha said was unacceptable but she had just told ethan that her dream is to have kids and he tells her she isn’t ready for kids? my feelings sure would be hurt if someone who’s supposed to be my friend shut down my dreams (multiple times) that easily.
@@7layerburritohe never said that she isn’t ready for kids lol he said he she doesnt know what it’s like to be a busy parent to a young baby because she was being a smartass to him about his parenting she was literally in the wrong and let’s shit spiral for drama so it’s her fault.
@@m1sniper 1:05:06 He literally
does if you watched the video before commenting first. :)
@@m1sniperdamn .. rose glasses.. take ‘em off before laughing at someone who makes a factual point.
She says stop, she’s dramatic, she lets it go and build up till she can’t take it anymore which btw is what women in the industry have had to do to/endure .. until she snapped.
her issues are very valid. CONSTANTLY TRYING TO EMBARRASS HER GEEZ
When Ethan said "Why would I want other options? I'm perfectly content." when regarding Hila, my heart melted,,, thats a perfect reply to her meltdown
I know such a great husband. Trisha is used to being used like a condom from random men, so she has zero concept of a legitimate marriage. Her engagement to Moses is ass because I guarantee you that shit won’t last.
it was equally an insult to Hila. like he only stays with her because he has no other options.
@@LaciRae what? He doesn’t even think about other options because he’s happy with Hila and they’ve been together since 2007. It’s not a jab at her
@@maleighaabeyta9086 i think you're misunderstanding my point. i agree with you. i'm saying, in other words, if someone told my husband of 15 years that the only reason he's still with me is because he has no other options, i would take it as a backhanded insult that they thought i was only worth staying with if there were no other options available. i know this is not the actual case with Ethan/Hila. but Trisha's comment was equally insulting to both of them. whether it was intended or not.
@@LaciRae oh my gosh I’m so sorry 😅 I guess I’m on defend mode
man imagine how awkward this feels behind the camera for the people in the back 💀
Honestly, I get so awkward when people are fighting around me but I’m completely different when I’m the one arguing with someone in front of others cause you’re like blinded by rage in that moment and aren’t thinking of the ones around you 😅
Dan watching like
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"I can see why you been with the same person for 12 years"
... she acts like that's a bad thing...
My parents were together 40 years. So dysfunctional 😭😂
shes obviously projecting. she was just saying how she wants a child and family which ethan has yet she acts like his life is sad when its one she seems to desire
@@oddshi I feel it, making fun of a person who has what you want. That's envy at it's finest.
Yeah and she said she would never get tired of being with Moses. Like????
i knoww and when she said he has "no other options" my mouth DROPPED like wtf. why can't you accept the fact that they are happy, healthy, and content with each other
i just love them for keeping the cameras rolling through these
she 100%weaponised his substance abuse against him wtf
That's what she does
should’ve said something months ago… it’s very performative to call her actions now when she’s been a ass
Right and they’re to help his depression. Not get him high. What a goofy Trisha is.
He made fun of her how she can’t be a good mother ( knowing she has problem with getting pregnant) he made fun of her on how her relationships don’t last and what not and y’all still say trish is wrong ? How
Is Ethan clean now? I had no idea he had a past w pills.
I'm a heroin addict in long term recovery, I'm feeling a stronger connection w Ethan over this, I've been out of the loop with h3 the last 2 years and just getting caught up.
Who's here after watching the Frenemies #39 where Ethan is also in Uncle Fester costume, ordered Dominos Pizza and had a fight with Trish.
I'm not the only one 😂😂
Meeee
Me. Clearly she's had an issue w/ her cut for a long time now. 7 months later and she's arguing about the same thing.
lol for real
Yep me! Can't believe she said she doesn't care about Moses and his family - AKA Ethan's wife. Seeing Trisha in a whole different light going through these podcasts WOW.
I like how he was able to recognize Trisha’s lashing out as her being really hurt. She was doing EVERYTHING she could to hurt him, and instead of being mean like she was he apologized and was patient with her. She needs a friend like that.
She was 100% behaving like a child, but he took the time to listen to her and understand why it hurt her feelings. I don’t think she has many people in her life that try to understand her, because she goes on the offensive immediately.
Well said
Yeah even though she was out of line, given her past and the shit people she has run with, I don't hate her. Hopefully Ethan can see that and isn't mad. I think she could really be helped by having someone (Ethan) exemplify apologizing and forgiveness
Yeah after he apologized multiple times
It's almost like he knows how to handle a kid throwing a temper tantrum.
She doesn’t deserve his patience tho. The stuff she said was so out of line, why put Ethan through that. Everything she said about Ethan is what she thinks about herself
Watching this in 2024 gang???!
Lol, me✋️ when ethan said, "Don't get her pregnant." I was like, oop🫢🤣🤣
@@mayatheswiftie5108 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so funny!! Miss this duo so much :(!!
@@rubyclarke3754 sameee🙁🫶
Trisha is getting very defensive and it's just because Ethan called her crazy, she claims she doesn't care about what people say about her, but it does bother her, and then instead of admitting it bothers her, she says hurtful and low blow insults to those who are close to her. I can tell Ethan wants to understand her side of things but it's hard for him when she went off on him. 😔
Amazing he bothered to even try
I agree, totally, with your comment!
She literally did exactly what he said she does. She just said she didn’t like any of her bfs family knowing it’s gonna cause friction between all of them.
She really projected
I am shocked no one has really talked about how good Ethan did trying to de-escalate the situation.
Ethan did a very good job at that yes.
Seriously, he did awesome
I can tell he has an extremely good therapist or support system. It seems that he is very aware of what is happening during conflict, and instead of going straight to anger and retaliation, he learned that de-escalation is actually the right tool. With some people, it takes a lot of time for de-escalation to work, and for others it never works. When it ceases to work, that's when it is out of your control and you have to make peace with the fact that the problem just cannot resolve with one party.
@@injeraenjoyer4570 Well said
the fact that ethan spent the last 7 minutes apologizing and trisha kept insulting him
The consistent "Should we resolve this? Can we resolve this?" were so sincere and genuine and it reminds me of a very understanding dad talking to a teenager. Ethan I may not side with you on a lot of things, but the latter quarter of the episode showed me how compassionate and rational you can be, even under pressure.
Sometimes you just need time to relax and reflect when you’re upset. I don’t agree with her but I can see where she’s coming from lol
tbh Ethans response made me realize he genuinely didn't know how much he was affecting her ... he was great
@@shoookethtons3515 exactly. He had no clue and then once he did and tried to apologize the situation was already too far gone for her to just get out of that mindset. I hope having these closer relationships makes her want to work on herself and her social relationships more, but thats all up to her and the place she's in rn. Ethan is obviously willing to be there to work through it if she wanted to. Maybe one day she will.
Trisha didn’t deserve how compassionate ethan was being.
So watching back again it really hits the fan after her talking about her parents caring more about the house then the kids in her parents divorce and saying that she turned out fine. Then she tries to turn it to Ethan saying he didn’t turn out fine. I think the real trigger here wasn’t really being called crazy by Ethan. I think it’s talking about her parents. It’s unresolved trauma and not excepting her past. Ethan has called her crazy before but Trisha can’t except when he says she didn’t turn out fine because Trisha is trying to believe her childhood was good. Peace and love Trisha get some help. Love you Ethan papa bless! ✌️
Taking pills does not automatically make someone crazy, however, using that information to attempt an assassination of someone's character with the sole purpose to destroy said person's credibility and "prove" that they are crazy makes you crazy.
@Sleeze start watching at about 1:06!
Crazy isn’t the word for either of those situations.
@@pep_z780 yes, one of them is.
@@Jack-rk7jc so you’re certified to assess “crazy” behavior? My mistake, ignore me.
crazy gatekeeping is crazy
Let's be real, Ethan just did Uncle Fester so he could unapologetically dabble with wearing more eye shadow
Let's also be real, he's killing it
Totally agree!! KILLING IT!
Let’s be real, he did it so he could say Hi uncles
@@suttonsmith4408 Lets be real this podcast is shet and why isn't the horse out with them , lets be honest Hila doesn't even need makeup HAHAHAHAH
LMAOO YASS! I would love to see Ethan rock some make up looks. He lowkey looked amazing as James Charles
“Don’t call me crazy” proceeds to act like a psychopath
That’s not crazy. It’s a coping mechanism. U have to understand her very traumatizing past and mental health issues. So being called crazy is really hurtful for her since she’s tried so hard to get better. She just wanted to hurt him back the way she felt hurt by him. Don’t think so shallow, there’s are many layers to this.
@@sonyal9938 Her only "trauma" is related to her being a wildly narcissistic pathological liar who loves making up crazy stories for entertainment.