2015 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk vs Wrangler Off-Road Snowy Mashup Review
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2015
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2015 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk and the 2015 Jeep Wrangler are two very off-road worthy vehicles but which one of these is better off-road in the ice and snow? Andre and Roman recently had the chance to find out when they compared 2015 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk versus 2015 Jeep Wrangler in the Canadian ice and snow.
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simple:
Do you need a car to get to the gates of hell and do donuts on Satan's front lawn? Get the wrangler
Do you need a car to go camping on the weekend and drive a 40mile commute the rest of the week? get the renegade.
If you want ultimate off-road, you've got to go with the plane!
Renegade, for the price is a great vehicle and will be a huge market success - I think!
vince33x but it shouldn't be advertised as an of road vehicle, and the wrangler costs less.
superskiier50 But among the so-called "cute-utes" the Renegade is far more capable than most, if not all.
Donkey
@@bobby33x97 should geeat and renegade be in the same sentence?
JEEP > Land Rover.
From an European guy.
had both and prefer LR; its much smoother and didnt struggle like the renegade did up the hill and there wasnt even snow where it was trying to gain traction. Plus much more competent on tarmac
***** Okay, which Land Rover did you have?
Great a commet war about to start
FJ > Jeep
+Mohammad Sadiqi Toyota FJ Cruiser?
Everybody calm down about the price. I bought my Renegade Trailhawk for $23k brand new - nowhere near the $30k everyone is talking about. There are usually incentive offers available especially if you find a motivated dealership.
U tell em! Got mine with leather for 24500 and am totally pleased with it. Also have a 95 yj. The trailhawk is so much nicer. Wouldn't mind a rubicon unlimited but damn... Price of my parents first house and they lived in that!
hey im looking at getting one soon here where and how did you get that price please help me!!!
+javan olson where are you located?
+Sean Castillo right now im in Charlotte nc for work but im going home to mesa Az late August thats when i will look at buying mine
+javan olson 10/4... I bought mine in the Chicago market.. What I did was comb the auto trader app and the car guru app. I found a bunch of prices i like and started calling the dealerships. I quickly found that almost every one of the dealerships no longer had the car lol. I then figured it was all bull ... Just the dealerships getting you to come in and slap the real price at you. I did find a Jeep dealership in the area that had the car at the price I wanted. I went , test drove, and then had to play the game with these guys. They argued that the "internet price" had a safety package of 2500.00 that is added to all prices.. Lol SCAM! I told these clowns that I didn't want the "safety package" so take it off.. Of course they said all their vehicles have it and cant be taken off ... So... I said you either sell it to me for the price agreed over the phone or we walk. In the end they caved and agreed to the price.
3:56 - no problem whatsoever - different colored shirt? someone else driving? lmao
Two of my favorite Jeeps. Love it!
First half of the video "The renegade is a great car, I really think Jeep outdid their selves as it can handle off road no problem".
Second half "The renegade will get you to the cabin but wont get you up the mountain."
Bottom line they are both off-road capable but obviously if you want more off-road go with the wrangler, the cons is you will be sacrificing MPG and price.
I have a renegade trailhawk in Colorado and love it, great for skiing trips.
Renegade will climb a snow covered hill, just use snow/winter/mud tires. All season street tires blow in heavy snow. Years ago I had a chevy celebrity fwd, put mud/snow tires on it and it was like a mule in 14 inch snow storm and mud. Crazy how good tires changes the game.
@@ericj810 Disagree. I had a 99 Saturn LS. I thought it was the best handling vehicle on the snow covered road. And yes that was after I put snow tires on it. I bought a new Jeep renegade in 2019. There are a few things with it that I am not excited about. Cargo space, the transmission and comfort. There is one thing that I am extremely happy about, and that is how it handles in the snow. Even before I put decent tires on it, the renegade is the best handling vehicle in snow that I have ever driven.
Yep, tires is most of the game, and the Trialhawk Renegade wants more aggressive off road meats. But remember it has to go on road too.
That’s the first thing I was thinking was look at the street tires on that renegade and the huge ass tires on the wrangler. 😀
This was the first TFL video I ever watched. I still watch it every now and then, and it's still in my top 3 favorites.
"It's ze French Jeep..."
Great video. Exactly what I was looking for! :-)
Awesome Video! Nice mash up!
This video is pointless, of course the wrangler is better off road what a stupid comparison to make, the point of the renegade is that its a small SUV with genuine off road capabilities for Europe where the roads are much more narrow, fuel is much more expensive, and parts for American cars cost a fortune, that's why the renegade is fiat based to make the parts more affordable. so for everyone calling it garbage and saying just buy a wrangler perhaps do some research about the vehicles purpose and demographic before righting it off.
My man.. I own a Renegade. I love your ideas. They're spot on
this guy drives at grandpa speeds. Thank you so much for speeding up the video!
OMG ! i live 5 minutes from Mirabel,Qc ! i love your show keep doing the amazing work !
Good video. It would be interesting to see an independently scored evaluation on a similar course with a Jeep vs. Subaru comparison for similar sized vehicles of each company.
Thanks for the great videos.
You guys crack me up. I got my renegade Trailhawk with leather and the cold weather pkg for 24500 before taxes. Still got to keep my 95 yj.. Go to a big city market where they move lots of vehicles a learn to negotiate... You will get a good price. BTW.. The Trailhawk in a fine vehicle..
Sean Castillo ........You can actually save on your Jeep by buying from a Fiat dealer
I have a renegade lattitude that needs new struts so I wanted to get a slight upgrade over oem and get some bilsteins that utilize the stock springs but since I have a leveling kit people keep saying its a no no adding aftermarket struts to a spacer lifted vehicle but its 98% a daily driver so do i really risk any major issues?
Looked to me like either one can do what most people will need them to! A person can probably take them just about anywhere that don't require hardcore offroading. The Wrangler seemed better off road but the other seemed like it could get it done in most cases and probably be more comfortable on pavement. Personally I think if someone wants to go deeper into the wild than what these will take you they need to consider a horse.
Yay finally a video in Canada
I love that little segment at 8:30
Debating on these two. I'll be living in the UP of Michigan for 7 years. Love the out doors. Probably some distant off roading. Some beach driving and lots of snow.
I just bought a Trailhawk yesterday yeah I spent $31,000 but I bought a car that is totally capable of going over the Cascade mountain range is Siskiyou mountain range and the Olympia mountain range in snow and in Comfort
+Kc Carr The Oregon Hillbilly Hilton I had gotten a 2012 2dr rubicon for 31k, nav, dual tops, manual, etc. To get a renegade for that kind of money is insane honestly. But if you like it, it's worth it, and that's what counts.
I'm ready to purchase the Renegade Trail Hawk also. What TFL does not talk about enough in the video is that the Renegade drives really well as a everyday driver on road, in a city, tight parking, etc... and it does all well and feels great on the road while still giving me decent off-road capability versus the 4 door Wrangler which is not a great everyday driver when it comes to most on-road driving. It's not unmanageable, but it certainly lacks way behind the Renegade in that respect. If I had the money for 2 vehicles I would totally drop the Renegade and have a Wrangler and something else for highway/city driving. But for a 1 vehicle budget and spending 90% of my time on-road and in snow the Renegade is much better for me.
a wrx would have done the same.
or a Crosstrek for 5k less than the TrialHawk
The crosstrek looks like a mom car though
Awesome when you guys come to Montreal
The Renegade is really close to the the 500x but i test drove the 500x and it didnt have a good peppy acceleration and it felt like i was diving a car because it was so low to the ground. Now when i test drove the Renegade i felt like i was really driving a small SUV which it actually is, also it has nimble steering and good acceleration.
It's not a small suv and it's a flat out dog.
The problem with this course is that the snow is already packed down. Would the Renegade be able to break trail in 2 feet of fresh snow? Dry or wet?
Yes, it is about tires... you have allseason radials, not winter tires!!! Put winter tires on!!!
Cool video guys, and welcome to freezin' Quebec ;-) haha. As a french Canadian, It was cool seeing you filming in Mirabel!...a little bit colder than Colorado hu? :p
"Back in my day the heated leather option was parking close to a burning cow on Jerrys side of the Rhine" - Willys MB
That's awesome.
Super great technology ! Economy, 9-speed automatic gearbox ! Great design outside, inside ! Practical choice ! Great colors too !
8:58 Are the heat extractors on the hood of the Wrangler functional?
So glad you enjoyed driving the New Renegade in Mirabel, Quebec the windiest part of Canada. One question in Quebec its mandatory for Winter tires (and heated seats & steering wheel) so did the Renegade & JK Jeep have them on the test or not?
Yeah, he mentioned it in the video in passing, and also confirmed it in the comments (the Wrangler/Rubicon is not available with heated steering wheel, just seats). But they are options, not standard.
Windiest? LOL, Uh sure, I used to live in St Henri, it's windy in parts of Quebec like Mirabel and Sauveur, but... I'll send you a letter from Calgary here in the Rockies, and won't bother with Canada Post or UPS, I'll just toss it in the air and let the wind take it to you overnight. =;-P
KnightShadey You'd be throwing it the wrong way, I moved to #CampbellRiver #BC last year.
Stephen Bradley LOL !! Well I guess all of us outdoor types start t migrate West it seems. Still miss Montreal cafés and spring women's fashions. >B-)
OK, well then maybe you could help us skiers of the interior and foothills out by throwing some boiling water into the air to try and hopefully those wind will give us some snow. Not that I don't like driving around with the roof off on the Rubicon in ~20C heat in Calgary... in MARCH !! =;-)
KnightShadey Snow only on Whistler Mountain. Here on Mount Washington snow is only on the top half as I can see from my Windows lol
Ahh yes I miss Montreal too I grew up on South Shore, Greenfield Park. "PARKERS".
ST.Denis street is sorely missed.
I sold my Jeep when I lost my leg in Ottawa 6 1/2 years ago. Miss my YJ dearly.
please compare the base model as well. thanks!
Love the info-mercial I wish you so called youtube testers really tell how it is .
We can see it do prolly just well as maybe a subie can.
I notice they are comparing the Renegade Trailhawk to the top-of-the-line Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock. I would have preferred to see a more realistic comparison, like a Willy's Wheeler.
I honestly could be mistaken, but that means that they had to buy that wrangler hood aftermarket it is unique to the Hard Rock.
they had blizzacks on the Wrangler also..lol
Of course you have more traction in the big heavy wrangler. It also have more tires. But the renegade will handle better in between threes and tight forest roads.. the new renegade has more weight because of the Phev batteries. I tried it, so it's better..
Is that a rubicon? He said he had his rear locked up but those aren’t rubi wheels or tires and I saw no badges.
Is this offered in a manual drive configuration? Would make a perfect city car for those occasional snowy days and whatnot.
Yes but only with the smaller engine configuration.
jordan kline Thank you:-)
Nice video! I personally prefer the Renegade.
I wanna get a renegade what kind and size tires are those
I've really tried to like the renegade. I really wanted to, but I just can't get over the appearance of it. Cool video though. It's neat to see what these things can do.
Same it reminds me of the Nissan Cube.
i took one of these renegades in the snow the other week. very deep snow. one thing i noticed... paying 10k more for the trailhawk doesnt get you any more power. only thing you get is more features like keyless stuff. it DOES give you skid plates underneath and bigger tires... so there is that.
So didn't handle too well in the snow?
handeled flawlessly in the snow. deep enough that there was snow in the front grill. still, i am thinking of getting something cheap, then go to a wrangler when i have a bit more money. we will see.
+Murray Kitson Get a cheap wrangler, i payed 12,500 for my 06 LJ with the bullet proof 4.0 I6. That is not cheap for a wrangler but it is the most highly sought after model since they only made it for 3 years. Add a 3" lift, Hi-line fenders and 35s good to go!
ya, im kinda looking for a new vehicle. not just new for me. so likely around 30 000
ya, im in canada, so it costs a little more. plus i got the hard top plus a couple extras i would want. i have the printout from the dealership here and it says 31835. i also wanted navigatioin for work and such. so it came out a bit higher.
Isn't Canada in winter just a beauty EH great vid guys
Is that the accent I'm hearing?
Thirty grand for that Renegade is outrageous. Just stick with the Wrangler while you can-before Fiat ruins it. Better yet, get a TJ.
+Thomas Kirby
How would Fiat ruin it? I want a Wrangler Rubi, like nobody's business.
But what do you think corporate owner Fiat could do to ruin it?
They'e put the most powerful engine in it the PS V6 with VVT, so it gives you 285 hp with 260 torque. Mine would have a standard 6 speed.
For those automatic weenies, it means pushing the clutch pedal down, every time you want to shift.
How can you knock that? Especially compared to what this video shows.
Well Fiat also owns Ferrari
+Ray Charles As far as Fiat, they are not too keen on gas guzzling rough suvs, so they will likely try and tone it down... There have been rumors of a front IFS a`la FJ cruiser, or going unibody for weight savings, dropping the folding windshield - again for weight and aero... to some that's ruining it. I'm in that camp.
+dre04mach rumor rumor rumor... hush
+Justin Hardt Free speech. I guess something else the italians don't like :P
what song is this in the backround of the renegade?
So much easier to lift a Wrangler thanks to solid axles. What I disagree with most about GM's vehicles. They don't offer a single model with a SFA.
like to see a wrangler vs defender vs range rover..the three best off road cars you can buy IMO
With better tires, lift for ground clearance and momentum the renegade works just fine. However, having owned both, I would say if you plan on Rock climbing and playing in deep mud puddles the Wrangler is the best bet, as you can lift it higher and put bigger mud tires on it. As if we all didn't know that already! lol
bigger wheel. weight etc. yes renegade will do just as good as the wrangler in light trail
Once Andre came on the scene I knew the drive wouldn't get into too much trouble.
the jeep renegade looks awesome if it has 2 doors option ???????
The rengade is made in italy and imported to usa right?
I like the styling of the renegade. Put that styling into a liberty sized SUV now that would be nice
dtv4334 its not really an off roader though, sure it has 4X4, but the wrangler is much more capable.
I want to put my GX460 on that course. Iv been wanting to try out the CRAWL CONTROL.
it will destroy the course ...GX460 is one of the best off road capable cars and my dream car ...but can't afford it
Muito bom!!!
whats the music in the background?
I was very excited to see the Renegade released and waited patiently since last March when it was announced, but that price is just unjustified. This is Cherokee territory with more power, room, luxury, lockers, etc.. Or even a Wrangler Sahara for the same money. Ridiculous pricing... in Canada its going up to $35,000 for literally and off roady Kia Soul, what the hell Fiat.
As per the review, great job as always TFL!
"no problem whatsoever"@3:55...except for not making it over on the first attempt, right?
What's the background music?
I want that wrangler so bad!
Roman get a hat on! Geeez. Nice vid guys. By the way, what kind of tires did they have on the Renegade for the test? TY!
They both had Blizzak snow tires as per the law in Montreal
Apparently it's very difficult to wear a hat when you've got a toupee.
It's a provincial law. Not a city law. All provinces should also bring this law in.
NovaScotiaNewfie What, it's against the law to wear a hat when you've got a toupee ??? That's rather draconic, if you don't mind me saying so.
MrKeyboardCommando
He's talking about the winter tires lmfao
Ребята,спасибо,интересное сравнение,но на Ренегейте надо было ходом брать.
В Европе Ренегейт есть с двух литровым дизелем.
That renegade looked like a posing toy that was right at the edge of it's limits even on that little track. The wrangler had loads left in it. I'm not a great jeep fan but respect where it's due - the wrangler seems decent. That renegade is like all the other pretend offroaders. Just something to take kids to school. When your "diffs" are just electronics controlling the brakes there are going to be limits to the ability. Real diffs, good ariculation and low down grunt/gearing - as the wrangler - are some of the key offroad attributes.
The best though is when you combine the two approaches. Sometimes you unlock a diff and use the brakes, sometimes you lock them, depdending on conditions. Something Land Rover has really been doing well with recently, but it's not like they're alone.
Why not on the truck channel?
It’s a fiat panda, it definitely has an off road heritage! That’s not a bad thing either, those pandas were sweet. But what I like about this vehicle is Jeep engineers dug into this and tweaked it further! I love my JK, but I’m very glad jeep built a small off roader.
Honestly, the renegades would do a lot better if they had a better selection of tires to choose from. Right now I can only find the standard city tires, or the snow tires, that's it. Can't find any all terrains. Can't find any muds. Nada.
Rock mode for wintry conditions... that makes soh much sense.
What Wrangler was that? Hood looks like a Hard Rock, but the bumpers are standard?
Justin Hayden It´s a Polar Edition I think
you said the course was made by land rover, so it is a road with some potholes
Yeah that's the issue how you stalled a little at the top of the hill. Even though my Jeep has the same engine it doesn't do that because it has the low range. My wife has the compass Trailhawk (basically the same as the renegade) and you have to "send it" a little bit. There's a HUGE difference between the Cherokee Trailhawk compared to the renegade and the compass Trailhawk
I'm just a little concerned that 1:20 is not enough in some circumstances. Suzuki GV did 1:24.8 and Wrangler does 1:46 in old Rubi with 42RLE/241OR/4.10. RAV4, meanwhile, is 1:13 with 5sp, and that is definitely not enough.
Renegades have been around a while to, they just brought the name back
Really was better tires I don't think you would have had an issue. My wife has to accomplish then it has the same powertrain and the same tire size and everything and her new tires are a world of difference
how do i get a job like this? i want to test vehicles
+adam ant me too haha
People seem to have a tremendous problem with realizing that car companies need to make money. They still have the Wrangler, which is what you buy if you want a pure off road vehicle. The new Cherokee, Compass and now the Renegade are aiming for a different market. This Renegade would be a great commuter for a cold, snowy environment and offers a smoother ride for when the pavement is dry. It is also something Jeep wanted to bust into the European market, which the Renegade is perfect for.
3:20 is great
3:57 what do you mean not problem at all? Just before you fell back down, that's a problem!
I want to see the Land Rover on that same course!
Landcrusier is the real stuff and the most reliable.
Jeep Wrangler versus cross over. I wonder what's better hmmm???
Have you guys heard of the problems with the Grand Cherokee Navigation systems? The navigation maps are now 3 years old and it looks like there maybe no future map updates. Nice to drop big money on a vehicle that does know where it is. I wonder if all Jeeps have this issue.
welcome to canada
I was very interested in the Renegade..... until I saw it was THIRTY GRAND !!! No thanks. Twenty and I'm in....
30 grand for the top of the line Trailhawk. Do some research.
Phil Formby ....still $30k is a lot for what u're getting.
Phil Formby it's more like 30 grand for a bigger shopping trolley with a roof. I don't understand how can this car look appealing to some people, but tastes are different. A lot different.
Now it's clear why American cars/trucks are made with such low quality materials, because people think $30k is a lot for a new vehicle. It's like they've decided a price that's fair for something and will stick with it all their life, not allowing for inflation over the years. There's a reason LR's are more expensive, it's because the rest of the world is willing to pay for better engineering and better material quality. You get what you pay for. Demand dirt cheap prices and look at what you'll get.
None of that is directed at the Renegade, just American cars in general and the American buyers forcing the makers to lower the quality and engineering. When I saw/heard the price $30k I personally thought "wow, that's cheap".
Alien Or Sutin American cars/trucks are forced to compete with Japanese cars. Japanese cars/trucks have usually lower price and higher quality. How USA government made this is unknown to me. Governments usually protect business owners from other countries, but not USA. Probably after WW2 USA doesn't charge Japan for importing their cars or something.
In many other countries if the car is not domestic it has twice the price or more. This is why Chrysler and Chevrolet went bankrupt because of imported cars that are cheaper! and better for the same price. Ford didn't go bankrupt because most of the cars they sell at other countries and don't expect lots of sells in US (except F-150). Ford Fusion doesn't even want to compete with Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, It can't be compared for the price mostly and fuel economy too.
All the jeep people saying buy a wrangler for "ultimate off-road performance" crack me up. The Renegade is a decent little exploration vehicle that spends most of its life in town going A 2 B and you aren't all that bright if you think it's meant to be some off-road god machine.
I like this renegade but it's far too expensive. A top of the line trailhawk (which is the only model i'd take off road) looked like it was struggling to make it up that hill. My base forester could make easy work of that. Yes I know the subaru system is one of the best for hills but I would expect a top of the line trailhawk to be a little more capable than that. If the top trim struggles there is no hope for it in my mind. I'm slightly disappointed as I was hoping for more.
I just came back from Islington Chrysler Etobicoke Ontario ,they asked me to pay over $36,000 for Trailhawk version !!! They had some Chrysler people doing some promo ,so I asked question are you serious?
They told me yes! Whey I compared other brands to Jeep their answer was its me model and they need to cover the cost of new design!
All wheel drive Subaru Forester cost 31,000 with tax this Jeep would be over $40,000 on the road.
Any buyers?
Eso si en esta pista el Terrano II hace excatamente lo mismo que el Wrangler.
What was the trim level of the Unlimited? It was a Renegade Trailhawk vs. a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ____?
It was a Rubicon because Roman mentioned that the rear axle was locked.
Jonathan Scherer it was actually the new x edition.
Thanks for the correction. Jeep always has to go and further complicate these things.
Jonathan Scherer yeah i know, there is and has been alot of these special edition wranglers. The x edition was actually made to promote jeep in the x games.
It's just their way to make deciphering difficult. How many special editions do we need? Keep it simple Jeep.
1. did they air down the tires at all?
2. didn't they say that the wrangler had the rear lockers engaged? of course it did awesome with lockers!
I own a jeep wrangler unlimited. It will go anywhere I point it at. But times have changed for me. I am down sizing. Want better fuel economy want 4 doors and trunk space. I think the renegade is going to be the choice for me. Even though I know it's going to be hard to make that huge shift to something so less capable. And I would have liked to see him try harder to make the hill on the first try. with the automated system it will brake the tire that is spinning to send power to the opposite wheel. So I think he should have committed to the hill and tried harder and let the vehicle do it's thing. I think it may have done it. gas, no gas, gas, no gas, I think he was confusing the computer.
Did you end up getting the renegade? Do you like it?
If you didnt get the renegade i would look into the subaru crosstrek
What song is that
I'm trying to figure that out too
A good show Idea would be to put a zj against a wk2
Love the wranger
A standard two door wrangler with no options is the way to go. That is real modern day jeeping.
Sadly the brake torque 4wd in the renegade leaves a lot to be desired on low traction surfaces. The electronic lsd in the grand Cherokee scaled down would have been world's better but would have increased the cost. Not bad when compared to a Honda awd system but even the ford explorer awd would probably beat out the renegade trailhawk and that's kind of sad. Diff locks matter. The wrangler had the rear axle locked and walked up it fine.
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I was interested in a Renegade I thought it would be a great second car for my family to replace our Grand Cherokee in a year from now but for 30K+ no way! I'd just get cherokee or another grand.. We have a wrangler already for wheeling.
What did you end up buying lol
@@bigbtv3773 Actually ended up going with a Ram 1500
Nothing beats the patriot in the cuv segment. It looked like a jeep and it drove like one too. Even the compass was better than this one. The front of the renegade is rather acceptable. Its the backend that completely gives away the fiat 500 platform which is a shame really. 30k for a car that is likely to get discontinued in 5 6 years (considering patriot/compas) totally not worth it. Id rather get a 2012 grand cherokee for 22 000 and save 8000
Totally agree!
Ha ha ha ha ha 2 years later and now both the compass and the patriot are discontinued. Where are these 22 thousand dollar grand Cherokees at?
Der Renegade ist schon beim schönes Auto, aber schweres Gelände wird er nicht packen? Oder?
locked in 4lo on the JK? Why? it would do that in 2wd / 4hi
Didn't think the rocky mountain had lockers
The Renegade would have done better with all terrain tires.
Would like to see a comparison between the Subaru Forester and the Renegade, on and off road.