EDIT: I fumbled chatters. Point #1 for QB is drafting a QB1 before Round 14 NOT Round 4 (slide @ 17:55). Also, don't be fooled by the intros to RB (11:20) and QB (16:56). The guys do not talk about TEs three separate times. Hard enough to do it once. Thanks for not lighting me up in the comments, all! Plenty more Best Ball Summer and Redraft content on the way. -Producer Weaves
If you want to use the rankings in a redraft league, bump up the values of the running backs by at least 1 round. Best ball leagues tend to skew heavily towards WRs because you can use more.
I find that this advice has lead to a higher floor in my redraft leagues. Our set up is 2/2/2 rb/wr/flex and I usually target WRs to fill those flex spots when I draft in the early to mid rounds. My league tends to undervalue WRs. I’m often faced in the second round with “should I take an RB2 or ARSB?” And then my 3-4 of my first 5 picks are receivers
Long time lurker here and just wanted to say that you guys truly put a very high quality show for those fantasy football addicts like myself that are always looking to consume content. Thank you!
A good reason to listen to these guys is that they have the actual details from the drafts, and therefore crunch those data sets. I’m sure anyone can get those stats for themselves, but I trust them being able to see them at an overall clip. Best stream out there!! Thanks guys
i love your individual projections in season ,as i make a lot of moves so you do help me in leagues. and even daily. i play just a few best ball but i like your info for everything. but i listen to a lot of other shows too. I was in 7 1/2 PPR leagues last season my result 2-1st , 1 2nd ,1 3rd , 1 4th. 1 5th.1 7th ( all 10player yahoo leagues.) slightly better than my norm . but in 1/2 ppr rb's . really matter due to lack of depth of quality. the key to winning is finding the quality breaks and beating the adp. TE is still the tightest pos. - of course in leagues you have def and kickers usually. you need 2 good def - stream them and play the waiver wire for matchups 2-3 weeks away.
Tryin a new league where theres 4 rounds. Each round you pick a team def and after the 4 rounds the commish assigns all offense players of those 4 teams. Pretty stoked cus i was able to get detroit and chicago
I just don't understand how best ball could be God's game when it isn't real FFB strategy. It is desgined for people who are in too many leagues to set each roster.
😂 I didn't realize until about 10 mins in that this was drafting for Fantasy, not the NFL Draft. (I was like, 4 WR's by Rd 7?? Man have LBs been downgraded 🤣😃)
What’s y’all’s take with how high and honestly few RBs it feels like at the top? Feel like I’m always stuck with bottom end RBs or taking a running back when the wr counterparts are available are better. Is this just based of bestball?
Would love to see some of their signature data on any correlations with time of the year drafted. I’ve always preferred later august to get the most accurate picture you can, but some of the values in may/June look like real game changers.
Love the video! I keep hearing Patt and people in some of those circles say that reaching past ADP stops really mattering past round 10 or 11. Did your data sort of disprove this? Just curious how that chart about reaching looks when we compare the first and 2nd half of the draft
I agree with that assessment, just keep in mind that players are generally valued around the places they should be drafted. Don't reach more than 1 round ahead of your draft spot once you hit the 120s and up.
I feel like this years winner is going to be an uncorrealated team with a bunch of studs because everyone is too busy scrolling down for their Galaxy brain strats in every draft
i am addicted to these drafts lol. the NBA and Golf ones are so much fun. going to be sad when NBA season is over. btw the baseball seems the hardest. too hard to win and pick.
Was just wondering about stacking and some stats you may have on it, jumped right to that section to watch. Been playing since BBM3 and always enjoy the year round best ball content! Already in deep for BBM5
Preciate the content as always 🤟 on RB/WR picks thru rounds 7/10, any thoughts on how that’s impacted by additional roster positions in your starting lineup?
Any thoughts on how these strategies might change in the 12 team sit and go drafts? I would imagine uniqueness is less important since you just need to beat a few teams to make $, not tens of thousands. Probably same thing about stacking beyond 2nd pass catchers. I would love to see some data and analysis on these drafts as I like to use them to practice drafting before dropping more $ for a round of BBM.
This ^!!! I’m very much wondering the same. We only have to beat 11 other teams to cash, and if this make sense. I feel it’s close, but I don’t mind taking more elites unstacked, and I definitely try not to reach to stack, like they do in these tournaments. I still go piss boy yellow/orange, but try to get my two elites in the first 6 picks. My leagues draft rb heavy early, so I scoop up the other values and go for Zamora, Moss, Singletary, and some upside rookies. I also focus on more rbs, if I am too heavy on wrs. It’s been a pretty good run with a 33% success rate in the last 4 years. Turned $450 in 6k during that time. Good luck!!
Quick question though, if only 49% drafted 4-5 wr thru round 7, how do we know that data won’t skew in a big way if 75-80% of ppl draft 4-5 wr thru round 7? I very much agree with the strategy. Jw your thoughts on this, though.
Are any of the data sets used for the info in this video available to the public, or do Josh and Hayden only have access since they work for UD? I would love to examine some of this data on team composition and former winning teams, etc., but I never know where to find it.
I rejected my player take on Kyren last season. Only had him in 5% of my drafts because I didnt want to over commit on a round 18 pick. Have your player takes and run with them people!
I know there are numbers supporting drafting Wrs historically early for bestball but my god how can the wr26 be drafted over rb 10. The only reason you might have to draft wr early is because they are way overvalued this year in the rankings and will be gone in a few rounds. Regardless if you have to use 3 Wrs just give me the guy that’s going to obviously score more if healthy. And the wrs after the top 12 or so are a mess to figure out and take as a second round pick
The reason is that the rb’s have been busting like crazy and tanking your draft if you took them early. Look at top 10 rb last year in drafts. There’s ekeler, Bijan, Henry, pollard, Chubb, Jacobs, Stevenson all busts. So the teams that took early rb scored less typically because there were fewer hits
@@dbarller idk about that really. I just checked rankings from last year and there’s really only Christian Watson and Chris Godwin that were big busts in the top 25
@@MrMmitsch I’m talking about this year. Most of the top 10 are same top 10 from last year. But even guys like Ayuki aren’t scoring as much as a mixon or kamara
The biggest take away from this video is Hayden claiming bulky tight end has never worked but it’s also the only statement he did not show any data to back up would love to see more on this topic of bulky tight end bc it’s quite popular this year?
@@haydenwinks3069 thanks for the reply maybe you mean in the article which I haven’t looked at yet because I didn’t see any data regarding tight ends in the video
@@haydenwinks3069 also would love to interview you for my biz podcast because so many people I interact in corporate don’t even know about best ball yet this could really expand your audience
I hear you, even though I cut them more slack than anybody considering this is Underdog’s official channel. Definitely how I feel with all the other fantasy channels out there, seems like the influence of underdog/best ball skews the narrative a bit.. I think running backs are getting undervalued due to the best ball format, and a lot of these channels minimize how that affects strategy for redraft
Gonna echo other sentiments that I wish there was more redraft and ESPECIALLY Dynasty content on this channel. You guys are EXCELLENT and are missing out on audience capture by glossing over the huge Dynasty appetite and community
They do more redraft content closer to the season when the vast majority are drafting their home leagues. Right now the main people looking for content are best ball drafters
How mean it is to say "Grab your Hawaiian Shirt & GET DRAFTING" when Underdog is not even legal in Hawaii 😂😂 I know, because I tried haha Edit: would be a dream to have a Lava Flow in one hand and an active draft in the other 🤩... one day
Useless data lol Just show you who was Lucky and who got a certain player …I.e League winners or those who performed above expectations…😂 Absolutely useless . League winners last year round 1 cmc, round 4/5 white, hall ? I stole puka/achane/mostert/la porta Last 4 rounds last year barely won my Money back in these rigged tourneys
EDIT: I fumbled chatters. Point #1 for QB is drafting a QB1 before Round 14 NOT Round 4 (slide @ 17:55). Also, don't be fooled by the intros to RB (11:20) and QB (16:56). The guys do not talk about TEs three separate times. Hard enough to do it once.
Thanks for not lighting me up in the comments, all! Plenty more Best Ball Summer and Redraft content on the way.
-Producer Weaves
Would love to get a video like this for non best ball drafts whenever they are approaching
If you want to use the rankings in a redraft league, bump up the values of the running backs by at least 1 round. Best ball leagues tend to skew heavily towards WRs because you can use more.
@@waltergregg3706 need to take CMC at the -1.01
I find that this advice has lead to a higher floor in my redraft leagues. Our set up is 2/2/2 rb/wr/flex and I usually target WRs to fill those flex spots when I draft in the early to mid rounds. My league tends to undervalue WRs. I’m often faced in the second round with “should I take an RB2 or ARSB?” And then my 3-4 of my first 5 picks are receivers
Same. I am waiting ❤
Oh we will have some for sure! Thanks for watching 🤝
Josh and Hayden: You two are absolutely the BEST.....I look forward to your pods every week.
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Long time lurker here and just wanted to say that you guys truly put a very high quality show for those fantasy football addicts like myself that are always looking to consume content. Thank you!
#17 Puca N was drafted 177th overall. I drafted him in round 17.7 last year in a dynasty startup. 17 is my new lucky number.
A good reason to listen to these guys is that they have the actual details from the drafts, and therefore crunch those data sets. I’m sure anyone can get those stats for themselves, but I trust them being able to see them at an overall clip. Best stream out there!! Thanks guys
18:24 If you go Richardson/Daniels you have to go 3 QB build as they have the same bye week.
Also Lamar and Stroud
Can y’all do a breakdown of the million dollar winner’s roster? Love the info. Thanks fellas
The amount of free game in this video is absurd. Well done as always gents 👌
They're good
i love your individual projections in season ,as i make a lot of moves so you do help me in leagues. and even daily. i play just a few best ball but i like your info for everything. but i listen to a lot of other shows too.
I was in 7 1/2 PPR leagues last season my result 2-1st , 1 2nd ,1 3rd , 1 4th. 1 5th.1 7th ( all 10player yahoo leagues.) slightly better than my norm . but in 1/2 ppr rb's . really matter due to lack of depth of quality. the key to winning is finding the quality breaks and beating the adp. TE is still the tightest pos. - of course in leagues you have def and kickers usually. you need 2 good def - stream them and play the waiver wire for matchups 2-3 weeks away.
Tryin a new league where theres 4 rounds. Each round you pick a team def and after the 4 rounds the commish assigns all offense players of those 4 teams. Pretty stoked cus i was able to get detroit and chicago
How do I stack without reaching? Can I reach one round if it helps me to stack?
Maybe a weekly winner analysis for an upload !
I just don't understand how best ball could be God's game when it isn't real FFB strategy. It is desgined for people who are in too many leagues to set each roster.
Perhaps the deist God
😂 I didn't realize until about 10 mins in that this was drafting for Fantasy, not the NFL Draft. (I was like, 4 WR's by Rd 7?? Man have LBs been downgraded 🤣😃)
Argh I was just hoping we would hear how it is best to draft by team colors and teams connected to Tey-Tey. Can throw out 75 bbm drags I guess
Thanks gents! What’s best strategy when your elite players teams may not be playing their starters week 16/17? Over stack that team?
When the films are playing there is a ringing noise in the background. ????
Why did UD drop the regular season prizes?? Great content as always!
What’s y’all’s take with how high and honestly few RBs it feels like at the top? Feel like I’m always stuck with bottom end RBs or taking a running back when the wr counterparts are available are better. Is this just based of bestball?
Did you guys ever go over the winning BBM4 team? We got an analysis vid on the BBM3 team the year before so just curious
Which month is more successful to be drafting from?
Would love to see some of their signature data on any correlations with time of the year drafted. I’ve always preferred later august to get the most accurate picture you can, but some of the values in may/June look like real game changers.
Love the video! I keep hearing Patt and people in some of those circles say that reaching past ADP stops really mattering past round 10 or 11. Did your data sort of disprove this? Just curious how that chart about reaching looks when we compare the first and 2nd half of the draft
I agree with that assessment, just keep in mind that players are generally valued around the places they should be drafted. Don't reach more than 1 round ahead of your draft spot once you hit the 120s and up.
I feel like this years winner is going to be an uncorrealated team with a bunch of studs because everyone is too busy scrolling down for their Galaxy brain strats in every draft
You have to get to week 17 before you can crush it with your galaxy brain.
i am addicted to these drafts lol. the NBA and Golf ones are so much fun. going to be sad when NBA season is over. btw the baseball seems the hardest. too hard to win and pick.
BBM Drizzy!
Was just wondering about stacking and some stats you may have on it, jumped right to that section to watch. Been playing since BBM3 and always enjoy the year round best ball content! Already in deep for BBM5
Preciate the content as always 🤟 on RB/WR picks thru rounds 7/10, any thoughts on how that’s impacted by additional roster positions in your starting lineup?
Any thoughts on how these strategies might change in the 12 team sit and go drafts? I would imagine uniqueness is less important since you just need to beat a few teams to make $, not tens of thousands. Probably same thing about stacking beyond 2nd pass catchers. I would love to see some data and analysis on these drafts as I like to use them to practice drafting before dropping more $ for a round of BBM.
This ^!!! I’m very much wondering the same. We only have to beat 11 other teams to cash, and if this make sense. I feel it’s close, but I don’t mind taking more elites unstacked, and I definitely try not to reach to stack, like they do in these tournaments. I still go piss boy yellow/orange, but try to get my two elites in the first 6 picks. My leagues draft rb heavy early, so I scoop up the other values and go for Zamora, Moss, Singletary, and some upside rookies. I also focus on more rbs, if I am too heavy on wrs. It’s been a pretty good run with a 33% success rate in the last 4 years. Turned $450 in 6k during that time. Good luck!!
great info. thanks guys.
Is the flex position just rb/wr or is te part of it?
Te as well
Quick question though, if only 49% drafted 4-5 wr thru round 7, how do we know that data won’t skew in a big way if 75-80% of ppl draft 4-5 wr thru round 7?
I very much agree with the strategy. Jw your thoughts on this, though.
Are any of the data sets used for the info in this video available to the public, or do Josh and Hayden only have access since they work for UD? I would love to examine some of this data on team composition and former winning teams, etc., but I never know where to find it.
We release all the pick by pick data on Underdog Network.
6 WR's through round 6 was a heck of an anomaly last year as compared to years past
Yo I'm studying abroad and can't do underdog. Want to sign up. Can you open it to international?
It'd be funny if you could draft at any US Embassy
Great show!!
Love BBM! The font for BBMV? Not so much--can we get something that doesn't give off Comic-Sans vibes lol
Love this
Can you play bestball in a league with friends?
Yes! Click on one of the drafts in the NFL section (not a tournament), and then click Private Draft. Share that link with your friends.
I rejected my player take on Kyren last season. Only had him in 5% of my drafts because I didnt want to over commit on a round 18 pick. Have your player takes and run with them people!
i live in mexico city how can i play?
VPNs and geo switching apps
The year of "Telesco". The year the West was won and and BBM5 comes home to Buffalo. . Let's Go Buffalo/Vegas!!!!!! THEBUFFALOWARPIGS
The best strategy is play a bunch and draft differently everytime...
Great video!! 🔥🔥
"try it once try it twice youll try it 20 more times" this is insanely acurate
Well gee, now I have to go draft some optimized best ball teams
Hey somebody has to pop the draft ADP cherry. There’s a few gems without ADP’s still.
I know there are numbers supporting drafting Wrs historically early for bestball but my god how can the wr26 be drafted over rb 10. The only reason you might have to draft wr early is because they are way overvalued this year in the rankings and will be gone in a few rounds. Regardless if you have to use 3 Wrs just give me the guy that’s going to obviously score more if healthy. And the wrs after the top 12 or so are a mess to figure out and take as a second round pick
The reason is that the rb’s have been busting like crazy and tanking your draft if you took them early. Look at top 10 rb last year in drafts. There’s ekeler, Bijan, Henry, pollard, Chubb, Jacobs, Stevenson all busts. So the teams that took early rb scored less typically because there were fewer hits
@@MrMmitsch the top 10-12 wr less likely to bust. But the Wrs after that are a mess.
@@dbarller idk about that really. I just checked rankings from last year and there’s really only Christian Watson and Chris Godwin that were big busts in the top 25
@@dbarller but I think you’re right that one of these years fewer rb will bust and they will be great values
@@MrMmitsch I’m talking about this year. Most of the top 10 are same top 10 from last year. But even guys like Ayuki aren’t scoring as much as a mixon or kamara
The biggest take away from this video is Hayden claiming bulky tight end has never worked but it’s also the only statement he did not show any data to back up would love to see more on this topic of bulky tight end bc it’s quite popular this year?
You can see the data in the column
@@haydenwinks3069 thanks for the reply maybe you mean in the article which I haven’t looked at yet because I didn’t see any data regarding tight ends in the video
@@haydenwinks3069 also would love to interview you for my biz podcast because so many people I interact in corporate don’t even know about best ball yet this could really expand your audience
So why are you making a video that doesn't show me a strategy that always works? I wanna see the Top Secret plan!
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Gronk, Julius Thomas, Jimmy Graham on the saints.
I would love to know what is the best place both of you have ended up in Best Ball Mania?
I wish this channel had a little more focus on redraft. The content is so damn good.. its the best channel.. its just all best ball, all the time
I hear you, even though I cut them more slack than anybody considering this is Underdog’s official channel. Definitely how I feel with all the other fantasy channels out there, seems like the influence of underdog/best ball skews the narrative a bit.. I think running backs are getting undervalued due to the best ball format, and a lot of these channels minimize how that affects strategy for redraft
I’d say most😊 of their content is based off redraft
It's how they make their money
During the season it’s all redraft advice. But this time of year it’s just dynasty and best ball, BB is their bread and butter 🤷🏻♂️
Gonna echo other sentiments that I wish there was more redraft and ESPECIALLY Dynasty content on this channel. You guys are EXCELLENT and are missing out on audience capture by glossing over the huge Dynasty appetite and community
They work for a company that exclusively runs best ball, wouldn’t make sense to invest their time in competing markets
They do more redraft content closer to the season when the vast majority are drafting their home leagues. Right now the main people looking for content are best ball drafters
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Boutta take Erick all (adp 216) hope it’s not a throwaway cuz he’s one pick too far
AUDRIC ESTIME 225?
"Is it okay to reach in that section, when you're on these ends of the spectrum...?" lol
Nevada will never get best ball 😭
I feel you I’m in Washington… damn reservation casinos
Ditto fucking Montana
If they're good draft them. How difficult is it?
It'll be difficult to win if you have 5QB 2RB 11WR 0TE
Sometimes that's how it would fall to you if you always took who is "Good"
@@HoodVGC incorrect
Oh please wise one. Bestow upon us your wisdom
How many tournaments have you won? 😂
Why are you even watching this video if that’s your mentality? 😅
@TheClassicalKids I watch the God father trilogy too. Should I murder?
How mean it is to say "Grab your Hawaiian Shirt & GET DRAFTING" when Underdog is not even legal in Hawaii 😂😂 I know, because I tried haha Edit: would be a dream to have a Lava Flow in one hand and an active draft in the other 🤩... one day
Last year was fluky.. if you had mostert, kyren, amari, Puka, Pickens then you smashed in bestball mania.
❤😊
Wow this was so silly , please drafting wr before RB still loses lol look at it
Useless data lol
Just show you who was Lucky and who got a certain player …I.e
League winners or those who performed above expectations…😂
Absolutely useless .
League winners last year round 1 cmc, round 4/5 white, hall ?
I stole puka/achane/mostert/la porta
Last 4 rounds last year barely won my
Money back in these rigged tourneys
your algorithm's don't work . ive been playing for a lot longer than you kids
And how many tournaments have you won? 😂
Why not make your own video then?
Lolz ok brian
BBM Drizzy!
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