Outstanding video, don’t get the boneheads who complain about too much talking, you are a great communicator. Was looking for an alternative way to flush mount the fixtures other than was was provided in the instructions. Drill new mounting holes! Again, well done!
Don't know if you are aware, but on the wall behind you to your left, I noticed there are several of those yellow capped screw drivers that are misaligned vertically. Originally, I'm sure they were aligned by laser, but somehow a few are leaning slightly, making them out of alignment with the other tools. Now the rest of your tools look perfectly aligned as we might expect. ;-) . LOL I just couldn't resist, I enjoyed this and all of your videos. I bought a couple of those lights from COSTCO for my garage work area, and they work great. I am 80 years old and the wife was so nervous while I was installing, but wondered if we could install LED throughout the house. Yup sure can, and those LED lights I installed down the 40 foot hallway, looks like 747 landing lights. Thanks for sharing all your great videos.....Ken the old grumpy guy from Marina CA
Bought 8 of these a long time ago...like 2 years ago. Finally decided to install them now in my garage...getting into woodworking. Anyway, I am curious how to ganged them all together, did your have a female plug on the opposite side, so they could be ran in series? Thanks
@@phlydude Yeah, I LOVE them. They still work great, I have them ALL on every time I'm in the shop, and the only thing I'd change is to maybe add just a few more. I love the light out there, but sometimes I do need to break out a flashlight to see something up close. But overall, couldn't be happier.
wow ....your lighting for your video is really good ...and you used shoplights ...who would've know u could get such good results from shoplights ....hmmm ...this is getting me to reconsider lighting for my youtube cooking channel
thanks!!! you did a great job with your lighting for video! ..(and you used shoplights! i'm v impressed ...i just looked at other people's videos who used shoplights and theirs are not as good ....you are right ...i need a LOT of shoplights to get the same effect as you)
you can only pair those rf switchers to the other remotes you bought if you put them on the same channel (bit they might come like that of lucky). Also you can pair those switchers in very useful ways! make an all-on-off button then use the other 4 as quadrants, they can learn more than one button, it's very useful. hold the button and plug them in to forget all pairs, hold the button for a few seconds after they are in to goto pair mode. pair each with a quadrant button, then go back into pairing mode and also pair the all-on-off button, done!
Great vid! I put up a bunch of T8's in mine a few years back. I've been looking to swap them out for T5's, but after seeing how cheap you got the LED's, I think I'll be doing something similar to your setup. Thanks!!! I'm not sure I'd care to be able to control all 8 banks separately, but splitting them up into 2 sections, definitely.....which in that case, I think I'd just run another wire and switch to the wall where your master switch is now. Heck....while you're at it, you could add a third or simply separate out the mud room switch.
Thank you Robert, I'm building a 36'X24' wood shop, have been given so many different ideas about number of units. Your video has convinced me that 20 is the right amount. The remote control, are they dim-able, and how does that work with the lights? Thanks in advance, I really appreciate the video.
They're not dimmable, but the remote works well. When I'm just going out to grab something, let the dogs out, or not actually work on anything, the lightswitch turns on the backup lights, which is fine. If I want to work, I turn them all on with the remote. I haven't had any issues yet. The only reason I don't just have them all on when I hit the switch is they pull around 800 watts, so it would be a waste of power otherwise.
Hey +Robert Cowan I wish I had found your channel earlier binge watched some of your videos! Your projects are so professional and is really inspirational to me as an engineering student. The practical approach to this project was amazing! Thank you for sharing it with us.
Keep in mind these are leds and can all be turned on and left on without using much electric. I think I’d save the time and money of the remotes and just run all off one switch. Imho
nice video. you mentioned when the switch goes off the lights stay off indefinitely, is that due to the remote sensor resetting or the fixture itself? i ask because i am thinking about just swapping my light receptacles out for power receptacles in my garage and chaining two lights together. i figure if i use the pull string to turn them all on once, i should be able to use the switch on the wall to turn them on and off for the remainder. is that correct?
interesting setup, i'm building a house and vlogging it on my channel. our garage is very similar! I saw these at costco and almost pulled the trigger but i have a box of phillips T5 High Output bulbs collecting dust so i'll prob end up using them. they are 4600 lumens per bulb! i'm going to use 8 of them in the single garage bay which will have a 14' ceiling and a 2-post car lift. for the other side i'm just going to use 2700k 6" recessed cans to keep the garage warm. it will be complete in about 5 more months :)
None. I've had them for over a year now (1.5 years?) and no issues and all of them work fine. I use them quite a bit too. I'm in the garage pretty much every weekend for at least 4-6 hours a day, so they get a lot of use.
Anchors in drywall instead of just using the studs were a poor choice. Also, using the remote control units were an over-complication that actually adds time instead instead of saving it, as compared to a simple flip switch. Thank you for the video though. :)
Very cool project. Do you have a model number for the lights you put in and what was the wattage, lumen, and Kelvin range of your fixtures? And were you happy with the lights color range when they were done? Was the light to harsh or to warm? Job well done! Thanks Ron
Great job and such a massive difference! I will probably be doing something like this towards the end of 2017, I'm very curious if you are happy with the amount of light you got or would you have settled for less/gone for more knowing the results? I might've missed it in the video but do you have a rough estimate of how much wattage you're pulling when all lights are on in the shop?
Thanks! I highly recommend doing better lighting in any shop environment. There is no such thing as too much light... I would not have settled for less. The recommendation for a workshop is 100 lumens per square foot. I'm at 840 square feet, and I have 74000 lumens (not including the previous bulbs, which I might still use in addition to the new lights). This puts me just below 100 lumens per square foot. It does not at all feel too bright. I'm also missing two lights right now (they were damaged and I'm waiting on replacements). I'd say try and stick as close to 100 lumens as possible. I feel like the light is just right. I was able to pick out a splinter yesterday without using a lamp, and I was in the corner of the shop, away from any lights. As for how much power I'm using, each light is 42W, so in theory I'm using over 800 watts to light the garage. Thankfully, the lights are on their own circuit, so I don't have to worry about them cutting into the available power I have for tools.
Nice video robert!! You might want to check out home-assistant. Its a little more work to hit the ground running but it definitely more customizable and cooler!! :-)
Thanks. I'm actually messing around with just using a 433mhz transmitter directly with the outlets using an Arduino. So far so good. I realized I don't need as much control as I originally thought.
I have used those remotes for several years and find they are junk if they continually inserted and removed (Christmas lighting). 3 units for approx. $40.00 Cdn. by Woods at our local hardware store. The internals are all plastic and don’t stand up to casual insertion and removal. You should be fine if you install and leave. The cost wouldn’t be an issue for those well heeled individuals with laser equipment and measuring tools. A string would work for me. NO insult intended, just my view on the issue.
"well heeled individuals". that's the first time I've heard of that. does it mean "well off"? They have been working 100% fine for me, but you're right, I never really remove them.
Wow, the transition at 13:03 is dramatic! I don't know how much is attributable to the lens change & exposure settings, but it clearly shows the net improvement your videos will get (and I didn't think they were bad to begin with). Colors are better too. Big success! You might get tired of those RF units pretty quickly though. :-)
Yeah, it's pretty dramatic, there's nothing subtle about it in person. I like the RF units! Once I make something to control them, I think they'll be just fine ;-)
When I was looking for LED lighting, I wanted "daylight" LEDs. The Lights Of America 4ft LED sets at Sams/Wal-mart/etc are 5000k and 4200 lumens. They are a little more expensive than these and they do not have diffusers, so you see E-V-E-R-Y S-I-N-G-L-E INTENSE LED. +bcbloc02 posted a solution of using the Krylon Sea Ice transparent paint to diffuse his. I picked up some Rustoleum frosted glass paint and it diffuses them enough, but you can still see individual dots, it just doesn't dazzle your eyes. Here's a link to the Amazon listing for the lights I'm talking about: www.amazon.com/America-Shoplight-Aluminum-housing-included/dp/B00UTX4HJS
I looked at every available lighting solution before I ended up with the costco ones. The LOA lights seem good but a lot of people had reliability issues with them, and they're much more expensive. I actually like the color temperature I have. The brain is very good at compensating for color temperature, as long as it has a high CRI (color rating index). Almost all of the color you see from my videos is post-processing. It's pretty natural in real life, but I adjust everything in editing to give it the look I want. So, I could make them look very cold and blue, or really warm :-) It's all done in post.
Eh, it really depends, I haven't read the warranty. Generally speaking with things like this, if it works initially, it should stay working. I know there are exceptions... I've had these lights installed for about 2 years now, and they are all doing just fine. I use them about 20 hours a week on average (sometimes much more).
Great video Robert! What anchors did you use? Did you use the anchors so that you didn't have to mount it on a stud? I really like how you installed your lights. I don't like it dangling with the chains supplied. Thanks!
I used some similar to these: www.amazon.com/Qualihome-Plastic-Drilling-Drywall-Anchors/dp/B016APV7SM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498420897&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=drywall+anchors&psc=1 They're easy to install and if you get the ones that split out the back, they can hold quite a bit. I think mine were rated at 75 pounds. I just got them at Home Depot. Tried some from WalMart and they just broke.
Nice video. I'm into home automation and have a suggestion to check out. For wireless control, check out Smarthome.com and look at their Insteon line of controllers. Much smaller plug in modules. they even have smart outlets and controllers that works fit inside the junction box.
I looked at devices like that, but they were significantly more expensive. Maybe in the future I'll do something like that, but it would have added at least a couple hundred dollars more to the project.
Exactly ;-) We have a big driveway, and my wife is very understanding. The only way I'd park cars in the garage is if we had a shed/outbuilding in addition to a garage.
I'm not saying there's something wrong intentionally , but there's a vast difference in your old lighting at the beginning of video and your old lighting near the end . Forward video to 14 mins. and pause . While video is paused on 14 mins. , hold your mouse on pause bar at about 7 mins. and 40 secs. and then move mouse onto picture . Notice that in beginning , shirt is gray but at 14 mins. , shirt looks black . Also compare difference in hammer shadows in the two time frames . A huge difference . I wonder why ? Laying all this aside , your shop is lit up wonderfully . Great video with thumbs up-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ernest E. Johnson
A LOT of that has to do with the camera settings and the color grading I do in post-processing. I corrected for a lot of it before I did the before/after test. Different aperture, pulling up the shadows, etc. But yes, it's wonderfully lit now!
too much talking no action, I think it is more useful to show the installation step by step rather than so much light tech details that is not that useful, my 2 cents.
OmFG THERE IS NO video JUST saying how to WIRE the led. No offense but I didn't make it to the end. Idgaf what ya paid bro or wtf ur recording with IDFC. JUST SPIT IT OUT ALREADY HOW DO I WIRE THE S***!!!!!!??!!BYE FELICIA.
Drilling through the light fixture is GENIUS! Saved me a headache and some cussing. 😂
Outstanding video, don’t get the boneheads who complain about too much talking, you are a great communicator. Was looking for an alternative way to flush mount the fixtures other than was was provided in the instructions. Drill new mounting holes! Again, well done!
Agreed, you can always just skip ahead, but if the information isn't there, there's nothing you can do about it.
I just installed 8 of these in my garage. Love them. I did mine off of existing switch except installed a occupancy switch. Perfect!
Don't know if you are aware, but on the wall behind you to your left, I noticed there are several of those yellow capped screw drivers that are misaligned vertically. Originally, I'm sure they were aligned by laser, but somehow a few are leaning slightly, making them out of alignment with the other tools. Now the rest of your tools look perfectly aligned as we might expect. ;-) . LOL I just couldn't resist, I enjoyed this and all of your videos. I bought a couple of those lights from COSTCO for my garage work area, and they work great. I am 80 years old and the wife was so nervous while I was installing, but wondered if we could install LED throughout the house. Yup sure can, and those LED lights I installed down the 40 foot hallway, looks like 747 landing lights. Thanks for sharing all your great videos.....Ken the old grumpy guy from Marina CA
This is one of my favorite comments ever. Nicely done. Thanks for watching!
Bought 8 of these a long time ago...like 2 years ago. Finally decided to install them now in my garage...getting into woodworking.
Anyway, I am curious how to ganged them all together, did your have a female plug on the opposite side, so they could be ran in series? Thanks
Lighting looks great. I have some of those costco lights too. They work great.
Very cool project. Looks great. I have always heard those custom-length spacers called "story sticks."
Thanks!
@@RobertCowanDIY Update 3 years later?
@@phlydude Yeah, I LOVE them. They still work great, I have them ALL on every time I'm in the shop, and the only thing I'd change is to maybe add just a few more. I love the light out there, but sometimes I do need to break out a flashlight to see something up close. But overall, couldn't be happier.
wow ....your lighting for your video is really good ...and you used shoplights ...who would've know u could get such good results from shoplights ....hmmm ...this is getting me to reconsider lighting for my youtube cooking channel
keep in mind it's a LOT of light. if you shoot for 100 lumens per square foot, you should be good for video!
thanks!!! you did a great job with your lighting for video! ..(and you used shoplights! i'm v impressed ...i just looked at other people's videos who used shoplights and theirs are not as good ....you are right ...i need a LOT of shoplights to get the same effect as you)
you can only pair those rf switchers to the other remotes you bought if you put them on the same channel (bit they might come like that of lucky). Also you can pair those switchers in very useful ways! make an all-on-off button then use the other 4 as quadrants, they can learn more than one button, it's very useful. hold the button and plug them in to forget all pairs, hold the button for a few seconds after they are in to goto pair mode. pair each with a quadrant button, then go back into pairing mode and also pair the all-on-off button, done!
Yeah, I haven't played around with them much yet, but I will certainly make a custom controller someday...
Great vid! I put up a bunch of T8's in mine a few years back. I've been looking to swap them out for T5's, but after seeing how cheap you got the LED's, I think I'll be doing something similar to your setup. Thanks!!!
I'm not sure I'd care to be able to control all 8 banks separately, but splitting them up into 2 sections, definitely.....which in that case, I think I'd just run another wire and switch to the wall where your master switch is now. Heck....while you're at it, you could add a third or simply separate out the mud room switch.
Thank you Robert, I'm building a 36'X24' wood shop, have been given so many different ideas about number of units. Your video has convinced me that 20 is the right amount. The remote control, are they dim-able, and how does that work with the lights? Thanks in advance, I really appreciate the video.
They're not dimmable, but the remote works well. When I'm just going out to grab something, let the dogs out, or not actually work on anything, the lightswitch turns on the backup lights, which is fine. If I want to work, I turn them all on with the remote. I haven't had any issues yet. The only reason I don't just have them all on when I hit the switch is they pull around 800 watts, so it would be a waste of power otherwise.
Hey +Robert Cowan I wish I had found your channel earlier binge watched some of your videos! Your projects are so professional and is really inspirational to me as an engineering student. The practical approach to this project was amazing! Thank you for sharing it with us.
Sure thing, thanks for watching!
Wow, what a difference. Looking forward to your new found freedom in shooting. Also, yes I vote you do need an Arduino lighting control panel.
Keep in mind these are leds and can all be turned on and left on without using much electric. I think I’d save the time and money of the remotes and just run all off one switch. Imho
nice video. you mentioned when the switch goes off the lights stay off indefinitely, is that due to the remote sensor resetting or the fixture itself? i ask because i am thinking about just swapping my light receptacles out for power receptacles in my garage and chaining two lights together. i figure if i use the pull string to turn them all on once, i should be able to use the switch on the wall to turn them on and off for the remainder. is that correct?
Great video. What is the computer generated program you used to show your shop? Is it available online or is it a program you purchased.
That is a lot of fixtures for the area. 100 foot-candles on every working surfaces?
interesting setup, i'm building a house and vlogging it on my channel. our garage is very similar! I saw these at costco and almost pulled the trigger but i have a box of phillips T5 High Output bulbs collecting dust so i'll prob end up using them. they are 4600 lumens per bulb! i'm going to use 8 of them in the single garage bay which will have a 14' ceiling and a 2-post car lift. for the other side i'm just going to use 2700k 6" recessed cans to keep the garage warm. it will be complete in about 5 more months :)
Have you had any issues with the lights? I want to change mine to LED, but I keep hearing these only last 1-2 years?
None. I've had them for over a year now (1.5 years?) and no issues and all of them work fine. I use them quite a bit too. I'm in the garage pretty much every weekend for at least 4-6 hours a day, so they get a lot of use.
Robert Cowan Thanks!
Anchors in drywall instead of just using the studs were a poor choice. Also, using the remote control units were an over-complication that actually adds time instead instead of saving it, as compared to a simple flip switch. Thank you for the video though. :)
Very cool project. Do you have a model number for the lights you put in and what was the wattage, lumen, and Kelvin range of your fixtures? And were you happy with the lights color range when they were done? Was the light to harsh or to warm? Job well done!
Thanks
Ron
Check the first 10 seconds of the video, you can see the boxes with all the specs written on them. The model numbers change, however.
Great job and such a massive difference!
I will probably be doing something like this towards the end of 2017, I'm very curious if you are happy with the amount of light you got or would you have settled for less/gone for more knowing the results?
I might've missed it in the video but do you have a rough estimate of how much wattage you're pulling when all lights are on in the shop?
Thanks! I highly recommend doing better lighting in any shop environment. There is no such thing as too much light... I would not have settled for less. The recommendation for a workshop is 100 lumens per square foot. I'm at 840 square feet, and I have 74000 lumens (not including the previous bulbs, which I might still use in addition to the new lights). This puts me just below 100 lumens per square foot. It does not at all feel too bright. I'm also missing two lights right now (they were damaged and I'm waiting on replacements). I'd say try and stick as close to 100 lumens as possible. I feel like the light is just right. I was able to pick out a splinter yesterday without using a lamp, and I was in the corner of the shop, away from any lights.
As for how much power I'm using, each light is 42W, so in theory I'm using over 800 watts to light the garage. Thankfully, the lights are on their own circuit, so I don't have to worry about them cutting into the available power I have for tools.
Nice video robert!! You might want to check out home-assistant. Its a little more work to hit the ground running but it definitely more customizable and cooler!! :-)
Thanks. I'm actually messing around with just using a 433mhz transmitter directly with the outlets using an Arduino. So far so good. I realized I don't need as much control as I originally thought.
Thats the best part!! Home assistant can interface with arduino directly. Just in case you want to expand on your automation. :-) Just a suggestion.
Noted. I still need hardware to turn the lights on and off though. I'm just not sure how much automation I want.
I have used those remotes for several years and find they are junk if they continually inserted and removed (Christmas lighting). 3 units for approx. $40.00 Cdn. by Woods at our local hardware store. The internals are all plastic and don’t stand up to casual insertion and removal. You should be fine if you install and leave. The cost wouldn’t be an issue for those well heeled individuals with laser equipment and measuring tools. A string would work for me. NO insult intended, just my view on the issue.
"well heeled individuals". that's the first time I've heard of that. does it mean "well off"? They have been working 100% fine for me, but you're right, I never really remove them.
Wow, the transition at 13:03 is dramatic! I don't know how much is attributable to the lens change & exposure settings, but it clearly shows the net improvement your videos will get (and I didn't think they were bad to begin with). Colors are better too. Big success! You might get tired of those RF units pretty quickly though. :-)
Yeah, it's pretty dramatic, there's nothing subtle about it in person. I like the RF units! Once I make something to control them, I think they'll be just fine ;-)
When I was looking for LED lighting, I wanted "daylight" LEDs. The Lights Of America 4ft LED sets at Sams/Wal-mart/etc are 5000k and 4200 lumens. They are a little more expensive than these and they do not have diffusers, so you see E-V-E-R-Y S-I-N-G-L-E INTENSE LED. +bcbloc02 posted a solution of using the Krylon Sea Ice transparent paint to diffuse his. I picked up some Rustoleum frosted glass paint and it diffuses them enough, but you can still see individual dots, it just doesn't dazzle your eyes. Here's a link to the Amazon listing for the lights I'm talking about: www.amazon.com/America-Shoplight-Aluminum-housing-included/dp/B00UTX4HJS
I looked at every available lighting solution before I ended up with the costco ones. The LOA lights seem good but a lot of people had reliability issues with them, and they're much more expensive. I actually like the color temperature I have. The brain is very good at compensating for color temperature, as long as it has a high CRI (color rating index). Almost all of the color you see from my videos is post-processing. It's pretty natural in real life, but I adjust everything in editing to give it the look I want. So, I could make them look very cold and blue, or really warm :-) It's all done in post.
yaaay paper towel is back!
Good info
doesn't that void the warranty to drill the housing instead of using flush mounting system? 🤔
Eh, it really depends, I haven't read the warranty. Generally speaking with things like this, if it works initially, it should stay working. I know there are exceptions... I've had these lights installed for about 2 years now, and they are all doing just fine. I use them about 20 hours a week on average (sometimes much more).
I think that some people might call your sticks "story sticks". At least that's what I've heard Jimmy Diresta call them.
Great video Robert!
What anchors did you use? Did you use the anchors so that you didn't have to mount it on a stud?
I really like how you installed your lights. I don't like it dangling with the chains supplied.
Thanks!
I used some similar to these: www.amazon.com/Qualihome-Plastic-Drilling-Drywall-Anchors/dp/B016APV7SM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498420897&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=drywall+anchors&psc=1 They're easy to install and if you get the ones that split out the back, they can hold quite a bit. I think mine were rated at 75 pounds. I just got them at Home Depot. Tried some from WalMart and they just broke.
Could you tell us the length of your board markers you used?
You could look into zwave switches. Much cooler than those rf things
I could, but they're more expensive and accomplish pretty much the same thing.
good upgrade
Nice video. I'm into home automation and have a suggestion to check out. For wireless control, check out Smarthome.com and look at their Insteon line of controllers. Much smaller plug in modules. they even have smart outlets and controllers that works fit inside the junction box.
I looked at devices like that, but they were significantly more expensive. Maybe in the future I'll do something like that, but it would have added at least a couple hundred dollars more to the project.
You're in CO, where do you park your car when it snows?
In the driveway :-) Garages are for tools and workbenches!
My cars are covered in snow, but the machines are dry :-)
Exactly ;-) We have a big driveway, and my wife is very understanding. The only way I'd park cars in the garage is if we had a shed/outbuilding in addition to a garage.
20?! You sure you have enough light in there?
Once you get a LOT of light, you realize how hard it is to work in inadequate lighting.
Thank you Robert!
You're very welcome.
Use toggle bolts
The one, s I saw at Costco when light goes bad you throw away fixture.
What are the dimensions of your workshop?
did you even watch a minute into the video? lmfao
Way too much talking for me. Yet, it remains you shared sound and practical ideas!
I'm not saying there's something wrong intentionally , but there's a vast difference in your old lighting at the beginning of video and your old lighting near the end . Forward video to 14 mins. and pause . While video is paused on 14 mins. , hold your mouse on pause bar at about 7 mins. and 40 secs. and then move mouse onto picture . Notice that in beginning , shirt is gray but at 14 mins. , shirt looks black . Also compare difference in hammer shadows in the two time frames . A huge difference . I wonder why ? Laying all this aside , your shop is lit up wonderfully . Great video with thumbs up-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ernest E. Johnson
A LOT of that has to do with the camera settings and the color grading I do in post-processing. I corrected for a lot of it before I did the before/after test. Different aperture, pulling up the shadows, etc. But yes, it's wonderfully lit now!
Too technical just to hang a few lights. Got lost in geek jargon on computer anime. Imo.
Too many lights and switches !
The amount of light is about right. If I did it over again, I would add a couple more.
too much talking no action, I think it is more useful to show the installation step by step rather than so much light tech details that is not that useful, my 2 cents.
OmFG THERE IS NO video JUST saying how to WIRE the led. No offense but I didn't make it to the end. Idgaf what ya paid bro or wtf ur recording with IDFC. JUST SPIT IT OUT ALREADY HOW DO I WIRE THE S***!!!!!!??!!BYE FELICIA.
99 % Talking and 1 % doing
talk alot talk alot talk alot