The Word "Obese" is a SLUR Now?! || Murasaki Juice React
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Why isn't "BROKE" a slur then?
At this point, it will be soon….
It requires recognizing a problem before watering it down
Because poor people don't matter ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
Everything is a slur, if you believe so. People caring about it is a different story.
"If you're a broke boy, just say so."
Pokimane is a slur user confirmed
Obese isn't a slur. It's a description. Call me fatphobic, but I'm pretty sure the people who would call me that can't catch me to retaliate.
assuming that they can even stand up in the first place
I drove a taxi 15 years ago. This girl in her early 20s almost died in my cab from obesity. I was legit terrified.
as an obese person im highly offendhheeed and *huff* i will *huff* get you for that one *huff* so better bhhee ready *pfuh* *huff* just stay here buddy *huff*
"Fatphobia" is about as real as "homophobia" or any other of the woke fabricated terms thrown around. They hope that by evolving these words into "slurs", they'll be able to completely shut down any and ALL criticism by just slapping a label on you.
@@Mr.Marbles Careful, don't die of oxygen deprivation trying to stand up.
So "Fat fuck " is gonna be the hard R version then?
Where is George Carlin when you need him
@@ShadowCthulhurolling in his grave probably.
@@KiomonDuck probably rolling over as well
Can't forget Blue whale being a rated R version
@@ezekielravenheart3070 Ah yes the legendary "Land whale"
I really like when Alana laughs really hard and just starts squeaking like a dog toy
Add the floppy ears and it's adorable
She has a wonderful laugh. Brings a lonely fellow some joy.
calling her like a dog toy is a slur and dehumanizing to Alana 🤣
@@simpledj509chromo7💀
@@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh Joy, the emotion of happiness, you gutter brain
I'm obese. It's not something to celebrate. Spent the last two years eating less and going to the gym; lost a ton of weight, but still obese (it takes time, especially without drugs). People shouldn't be glorifying obesity; similarly, if you encounter obese people, don't assume they're happy with it or not trying to fix it.
Good on you for working on it at least! Which is far better than I can say for some people, sadly.
@@oren677 Thank you!
Here's to further improvements to your health, fam!
You'd be better off slowly losing weight, because it'll result to a more minimal loose skin and is much more healthy because you'll be giving your body the proper time to adjust to the changes you're doing. Wishing you success in your journey!
@@KingDetonation Graci!
Fine by me, means I get to make up a new word to call them.
Wobbleslobs.
Take something away from me and I'll replace it with something 5 times worse.
My hill is named Petty and the fort I've built upon it is named Spite.
Im never leaving this hill!
that's the most British insult I've ever read
New slur just dropped 💀and this one's out for blood
Let me add Spherical Entity to the list….
Flopperly miss shapen, is mine to add
Grease Chuggers
Obese is a slur? Okay, I'll just call them biggers.
Wait, no. That's tall people.
Mah bigga
Thiggas
I call them widely inclined people
I remember in one movie, a guy called his wife: "Animal Cemetery". In the sense that many animals found their grave in her stomach.
chungus
I always avoid the stairs because you never know when the boulder from Indiana jones will come tumbling down
If it is a fear, then for once the word fatphobia would kinda make sense to be used lol
@@williansnobre I’d call it an assomic bomb but to each their own
I LOVE THE STAIRS! THEY'RE FUN!
I never trust stairs, they're always up to something.
@@williansnobrehonestly i dont blame them if im going up stairs and i see an obese person coming down ill probably run back until they get all the way down
As someone who has lost over 100lbs and still needs to lose another 30lbs obesity is a state of body. No shame in being obese but there is certainly shame in staying obese.
I gained the weight whilst I was in critical condition on prednisolone. I guess when you go through shit you develop thick skin.
The issue is these people did it to themselves and it clearly shows, these people are fat due to life choices not due to factors of their life they have control over. You didn’t choose that and the reason you gained weight was due to medication you needed, they gained weight due to them not caring about their health and then wanting to shame you for thinking ill of them because they didn’t care about themselves.
hey.. good work.. as someone who personally never had to deal with weight problems but addiction problems, all while watching my half brother and later on his wife deal with weight problems (basically people born big, like my half brother was a football player and his wife was a big woman basketball player, but once they stopped and became normal working people it means that stuff made them easier to just become obese), ive seen it work out for people who try.. it could be a fluke of people near me or coincidence, but ive seen it happen... and the one thing in common was they tried..or at least, they wanted to, and everyone around them supported it.. so again, good job..
Good job, man.
I have more respect for a person that realize and know its a problem (even if they dont/cant do anything about it) then someone that deny their problem is an issue n revolt their whole personality around said problem, turning their very existence into a symptom of the issue
The difference is you’re working on yourself. That’s always worthy of praise.
I got called morbidly obese by a woman physician who was twice my size...I do have some extra fat over muscle to protect my body,but can actually flex through it,when I mentioned her size,she said her body was beautiful at any size...I am a 6' , 314 lb guy. I move vehicles as a regular thing,she died of a heart attack on her husband. I win...I guess...not the victory I wanted,but I will take it all the same.
A lot of the people who were the main spearhead of the obesity is beautiful sadly aren't here anymore because people told them that it was ok, beautiful ect
Poor husband. He’ll become very fit out of trauma…
natural selection fixing the problem 400 lb at the time
BMI wise you are in fact morbidly obese. BMI can be misleading if you have a ton of muscle though but for most people it is accurate enough.
Honestly, never go to a fat doctor. I'm obese and went to an obese doctor about my back pain and chronic fatigue, and he spent the visit trying to avoid factoring in the effect my weight had on me. It was such a joke. I ended up confronting him on how obesity is bad and he was like 'oh, no, oh, this isn't about that'. Fat doctors can not be trusted.
Them: "Obese is a slur!"
Me, a fat guy: "Bigga, please!"
7:27 you are 100% supposed to drink the broth. It's broth.
Bro I dip grilled cheese into my ramen broth and it’s magnificent.
@@F3nresif the broth tastes bad then the ramen was shit quality
Preach!
The girl in the thumbnail looks like she ate the Godskin Duo.
The what?
LMAAAAOOOOOO
Lmfao💀
And the noble probably respawned a couple of times.
oh no you're going to hurt their feefees 27:33 lol that's great xD
A slur is a term made from hate, not a genuine medical observation
@@thehoodedteddy1335 a term made from hate like WIFE!!!!
@@CyberpunkF most people don’t hate their wives my dood
I'm 51. Restarted was the PC term that we were taught. And person of color was a slur.
The problem is the consistent pattern of human behaviour where terms used in medical observation to refer to traits that are legitimately undesirable get hijacked for use as insults by one kind of bully (there's usually no actual hate, just a target of opportunity), then, when that works, they are repurposed by a couple of other (more malicious) sorts as slurs (mind you, Actually Using It As Such isn't the only way to do this.)
Very inconvenient for medical professionals.
@@laurencefraser i can only imagine
In regards to the obesity being the focus on doctors, there's a saying in the medical field.
"When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras."
Meaning the issue is probably the most common and obvious one.
He was right, though. Obesity can be a comorbidity or even a symptom, it should not just be assumed to be the cause. The person is there for help so HELP THEM. If the diagnostic work still points to the obesity being the only cause, then the patient can be sent to a dietician and a physical therapist. Just because someone is fat doesn't mean they don't need further medical intervention than just being told to loose the weight.
@@ANPC-pi9vu House MD. covered this in an episode. It's a medical drama about a highly skilled diagnostic doctor who is a complete asshole. He had a 600 pound patient come in deathly sick, and after House spent most of the day arguing with the guy that his weight was the problem, House finally noticed a symptom that made him change his tune and realize the guy was dying of something else.
@@o-mangaming5042 I remember there was also an episode about a kid with Cushings Disease.
@@ANPC-pi9vu Obesity will mask symptoms and even impair the diagnosis process cause it comes with a massive slew of its own symptoms. How do you determine what is caused by the obesity and the illness?
@@o-mangaming5042 Yes, and the dudes diagnosis (both from House and the doctors he went to before) would have been easier if he didn't weigh a quarter ton. In fact he might have been able to get diagnosed faster and they might have been able to treat him if his cancer symptoms weren't almost wholly masked by his obesity and the expected symptoms of diabetes.
That woman with the elephant legs. Dear God.
oh you mean the one in the thumbnail?
Some guys might be into it but yeah she looks like Squidward
I could hear the manatee mating call in that picture.
I think she actually has a condition. Elephantiasis, I think it's called? It's basically extreme swelling caused by damage to the lymph nodes (thanks mozzies >.>)
This is what happens when you value form over substance. "A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet" - William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet.
Changing what you call something, doesn't change what it is.
Lol my dyslexia made me misread that as "a Nose by any other name..." 😂
we live in a society where calling stupid people stupid is a bad thing smh
I mean, insulting people in general is just rude.
The problem is the tendency to turn any legitimately neutral medical term for an actual problem into not just an insult, but straight up taboo.
A process that is generally 75+% caused by a few different flavours of bully (ranging from 'idiot kid' through 'malicious ideologically radicalised psycho' with several other types making an appearance in between) interacting with it for their own reasons in a specific sequence.
Fat people aren't a marginalized group, half the population is quite literally medically obese and idk the exact definition of when you're considered "fat" but it definitely starts well before medical obesity so fat people are quite literally the majority. Skinny and healthy sized people are actually the marginalized community and you can easily see that when someone suffering from anorexia posts a video of themselves online, half the comments will be demanding they get banned for spreading such unhealthy lifestyles even when the content isn't even about food or dieting, anorexic people simply aren't allowed to show themselves in public without getting as ridiculed as fat people always claim to be...
Obesity starts at roughly 25% body fat for men. I’m only about 25-30 lbs over weight and I’m at roughly 23.5% at 200lbs and 5’9” (~175cm). The average man only need to be about 30-35 lbs over weight to be considered obese by just about every search ive done
@@XxzaidosxX I base it on BMI since a 4 foot dwarf that's 35lbs overweight is gonna be a lot worse than a 7 foot tall giant that's only 35lbs over weight.
BMI isn't entirely the best metric since it doesn't factor in body types like professional body builders just roided out like the hulk but it's a perfect metric for most of the population and the vast majority of body types and takes into account height too.
@@DrakeOola i never once said bmi. I said “obesity starts at roughly 25% body fat” which is literally what % of your body is fat, and will work for a roided out body builder equally as much as the average person. I dont use bmi.
Body fat %, by nature of being a percentage, will adjust the number based off your individual weight, ie 25% body fat for average guy who weighs 200 lbs is 50 lbs body fat and for someone whose 400 lbs of muscle on roids at 25% body fat would be 100 lbs of body fat. 50 lbs of fat on the 400 lb body builder would be 12.5% body fat and be low enough to have a visible 6-pack. And from the searches ive done, 25% body fat on men is the start of obesity. Regardless of body type, that would hold true
The only reason i mentioned my height was not for bmi purposes, but to show that im an average sized person (aside from being a bit over weight) and not someone whos 6’7” that would be underweight at 200 lbs and also an extreme outlier for body type/build. The purpose for that is to show that for the average man, 25-30 lbs overweight is going to make you obese for someone who gets most of their physical activity just from being at work.
Getting accused of any phobia in 2024 is a badge of honor.
Facts bro the people have become way to comfortable and lazy that's why they are so sensitive.
fr, i only use twitter to see like fan art follow some content creators and stuff, if i talked and got accused of a phobia, you better be sure i would retweet that shit
I’m hydrophobic.
You're phobiaphobic.
I’m pipkinphobic
People spearheading the change of these words completely miss the point of why some words become considered "bad" to begin with. Reason there is a negative connotation with the word "obese" is because the vast majority of people recognize that being obese has no upsides to it, and is about as close to being objectively bad as you can get. Whatever word becomes the new one to describe a fat person will be used in a negative context, which will repeat the cycle of now that word being offensive. It already happened when people stopped saying fat and started saying obese instead.
Lets say there's underweight, Normal weight, overwheight and obese. Being a bit chunky isn't obese level.
@@CyberpunkF Well yeah. Being a tad overweight, while not ideal, isn't exactly a death sentence, though you may see some health risks depending on *how* overweight you are (such as increased risk of developing diabetes, I believe). Obese is (and should) only being used when at a significantly unhealthy weight stemming from excessive body fat and lack of exercise.
Yep. The euphemism treadmill.
13:13 "rolling out" is a rather fitting term...
Ludacris intensifies
She's a mf autobot.
She's an autobot
@@batboy555 Autoblob*
@@winterFox2r weigh an auto shape of a blob
i would be really interested how much the fast food industry paid to get this whole plus size campaign started.
XD "Yes"
Actually form what I heard it was started by Fat fetish groups, and was original held by them to get fat women to sleep with.
Let’s be real, it’s all just coping from obese people who refuse to change their eating and physical activity habits
These people are delusional, I'm obese but it's because I'm lazy and don't care about my health and unlike these morons I actually recognize that
Bro I literally went from morbidly obese to just obese, and already the pain in my knees and most of the chest pain went away. Those people don't want to admit its their fault they're like that
You are supposed to drink the broth. Not doing it is like eating chicken nuggets and removing the breading. It's part of the dish.
Yea it got me confused too. It's soup, what do you mean I'm not supposed to finish the soup?
Twitter users in 2039: "Plus-Sized is a slur"
Nah, by that time it'll be "human is a slur"
Bruh...this is just natural selection at this point
42:16 he isnt trying to say obesity cant be the cause or something like that, rather its him saying make sure your doctor ruled out every other possible cause of the symptomes you are having because quite a few doctors tend to just say its obesity with out realy looking into it. Basicaly he says try to correct for doctors attributing everything to obesity even thoug they havent examined the patient. He is NOT saying dont believe your doctors when they say obesity is definetly the cause if they have looked at every other possible cause.
edit: spelling
Exactly. There are also people with medically induced obesity from other conditions that need to be diagnosed and treated. Hormone disorders are super common, especially in women, for example, but treatable.
Yeah, it's like when girls go to the doctor because of health problems and they always ask if they are pregnant
Agreed her take on this is kinda sad because she doesn't think about what the doctor really says. He didn't approve of obesity. He just wants obese people to actually speak up against doctor's who skip making sure its not something else that is causing the problem. Yes obese people need to lose weight and the doctor will have to say it to their patients, but ignoring other possible causes is worse. Just sitting here saying but obesity this but obesity that doesn't disprove this doctor's concern for patients who are not properly taken care of. I think its worse that u rather have doctors who ignore possible causes and take shortcuts just because most people would be fine if they just lost weight. Rare cases yes but isnt it a doctor's job to rule those cases out? Who else is supposed to help you find those other than a professional? Shaming fat people isnt done because being fat is bad its because ppl have egos and that helps them feel good at night when they go sleep. Most happy healthy people dont even see fat people because they are spending time on themselves and those close to them not online criticizing other ppls life choices. If you really care about people, fat people in this case you have to push them to find meaning n purpose in getting back into shape. Saying its not my job to do that but actively shit on them is just sad show of your own character. You dont have time to help them but u have time to shit on them unless they are actively promoting or glorifying obesity then yes those people need to be put down. And you are wrong about the definition of obese. U can be obese based on multiple things but being fat is based on fatness. Please don't become one of those people who spit on others just because some of them are annoying. Most obese people know they are big and struggle to get skinnier for thier own reasons and most the obese people i know dont blame others or make excuses they just lack the motivation and discipline to start exercising and eating healthy then maintain it consistently. Dont shame people who arent being obnoxious and dont let those feelings make you forget that this doctor isnt wrong and shouldnt lose his license for wanting to do more to make sure obese patients are properly taken care of.
Dude, the woman in the thumbnail looks like a mutant from The Forest and Sons Of The Forest
Looks like a boss in Elden Ring.
@@aoihitori Darksouls 1 too
@@Imdedmate oww right. Smough.
Gender bent smough
@@aoihitori could also be the godskin noble instead, if you wanted an Elden Ring boss
What's crazy is I was watching another video about the first wave of all these "body positive influencers" a few years ago and alot of them are dead now. A few turned a 180 and lost all the weight and lived but were ridiculed and no longer boosted because they no longer pushed proper body positivity by remaining morbidly obese. Some realized too late tried to make the switch and unfortunately died sad and afraid regretting not taking their health seriously. You can find out about them if you look but allot of them have died and social media really didn't push their death to much if at all because it would have negatively affected the whole body positive image movement...
Please make A$ylum great again. We really need it since we already had a lot of sick people.
The Asylums were banned because some of the nurses wacked the patients for biting or spitting on them. Now they are homeless or in charge of social things
*Now the patients
42:23 "Don't let them dismiss you before they investigate further a symptom you're having" That's actually decent advice though, ya obesity has alot of health issues that come with it, but if they simply dismiss something potentially life threatening due that requires medical action because the patient is overweight, that's some what negligent. There could be other problems with the patient beyond their obesity.
Yeah man. I have heard many such stories from people and from doctors on UA-cam of people not getting the treatment they need, because their issues are outright dismissed as being caused by obesity. People can and do have multiple health issues. I really don't get why Alana basically closed her ears and refused to listen. It felt like she could only deal with her own mindset as everyone not immediately yes- manning made her irrationally angry. Kinda disappointing
Also, sometimes obesity comes about due to chronic pain, bad reaction to a medication, or hormonal disorders... all of which need medical intervention. It's fucking hard to loose weight, and if a person has something else wrong that's causing weight gain or impeding exercise, that shit needs to be addressed or else telling them to 'just loose weight' is nothing but spitting in a person's face for asking for, and paying for, medical help. It's also like these people forget that therapists, physical therapy, and dieticians also exist and can really help an obese person learn new behaviors SAFELY instead of going on a crash diet and hitting the gym without any training and actually potentially harming themselves further.
If someone gets mad at you for calling them obese just say they haven’t got the guts to do anything about it
Body Slam!!!
- It’s Super Effective!
>fit guy used: brisk walk backwards!
>fatty missed!
well they've got plenty of guts, just no momentum.
I think the clip of that doctor has been misuntersdood by a mile. To me he meant that any doctor should not advice you to lose weight before they perform certain diagnostic tests towards a sympthom that you are having. That is really a good point. Imagine getting turned down for a diagnostic test due to being fat and you have brain hemmorage due to accident. That is fqed up. Diagnostics should be provided when asked. The requirement of losing weight before procedures is a different thing. That one you should follow to the T.
It's not. Wether or not you may have another condition unrelated to obesity, directly or indirectly (which is already an extreme rarity) losing weight should still be advised nonetheless, because it's still bad. If you go to the doctor with an obviously bad condition but you want to nitpick which of the issues you have that you want to resolve/cure, that's on you, not on the doctor. That is the issue with that idiot with a medical degree, he undermines the advise to resolve one of the issues to earn social media pts with the lazy salad-dodgers and focus on the possibility of medical negligence.
Calling a fat person fat seems to offend them instead of making them try and lose weight. This age of sensitive clowns must come to an end or else America is doomed.
Well, the problem you run into there is multifacited, given that 'fat' can be and is used to mean anything from 'not showing obvious signs of starvation' all the way through 'morbidly obese', often with intent to harrass and bully...
Mind you, as with most such things, the problem isn't the Word, and focusing on the word won't do anything useful as a result, but rather the sort of people who actually engage in such harrassment and bullying, who will just latch onto whatever terms will cause the target distress (with the smarter ones making sure to be selective in which terms they use based on who is around to hear it to maximise impact on the victim and minimise undesirable consequences to themselves). And of course, nothing is done about Those people.
12:57 They started ''rolling'' out. Lol
30:45
It also affects pregnancy. Had some friends who are a couple try for YEARS to get pregnant. Sure enough, the wife loses 40 pounds, originally 185, and gets pregnant the next time they had sex. The sadder part was, the pregnancy was unexpected. As in, they didn't even try to have a kid at that point. It just happened because she started exercising and eating better.
It's almost like fertility is directly connected to health. Who could have guessed?
@@earlofbroadst Right? It's almost like magic! 🤪
5:07 Her legs look like the full course leg piece from armoured core 6
Proud Golgoroth The Destroyer of Brunches was as she ate 5 trays worth of food that definitely can feed an entire african village for a whole week!!
36:50 Even Sephiroth ain't strong enough to carry that baggage.
They point at the diet industry as being responsible for this "phobia" but won't, for one second, point at the food industry for their issue.
Someone said it here, but it’s probably because the fast food industry is what’s promoting this new era of “fat acceptance”
Besides, they won’t bite the hand that feed… stuffs them.
If you are this surprised imagine going to an african village/town and showing this to someone... Which i just did to my grandmom and a reaction i got was "these kind of people are possessed by the devil, because no human being can be this big with God" 🤣🤣🤣
I doubt you did, where's the proof
Why do you need proof I'm from Africa? 😂
This reminds me of a quote from John Pinette where he was retelling a trip he had to Ireland and one guy said to him “I don’t mean to frighten ya but if you’re too fat, the angels won’t be able to carry ya to heaven.”
4:57 by the gods... ITS MOBY DIIIICK!
Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese!
Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese, Obese
I hope you don't live in the UK, you'll probably 3 years for saying it repeatedly...
0:44 pretty sure those fries are killing her too
I don't blame obese people for being fat. I blame the food system. There were gluttons and undisciplined people in the past just like now, but people being 300 and 400 pounds only became widely possible in the last 60-70 years or so, when we changed the food system in the US and spread it globally
Buddha statues disagree with you.
Even though there's more and more shit in our food, everywhere, the historical comparison is stupid, there were obese ppl in the past, it was just much more expensive and difficult to get there, hence few were.
46:21 the problem is if a doctor decides it has to be obesity rather than potentially something else, symptoms can overlap, and they aren't supposed to think that it's a zebra when a horse is far more common, instead of getting treatment for what the problem actually is, they stop at fat.
should the person lose weight, yes, but the example given lyme disease, here "When treated early, antibiotics cure Lyme disease in more than 99 percent of cases. Without treatment, complications involving the joints, heart, and nervous system can occur." the doctor stopping and just saying you are fat fuck off is actively hurting someone because they didn't run a lab.
essentially, run the lab, take the x-ray, when it comes up clean but covered in cholesterol, take them to the exercise bike they use to get heart rates up and tell them to use it and dont tell them when to stop.
47:47 take the samples, run the test, tell the fat ass to lose weight, don't just stop at well your fat.
I will say I absolutely despise doctors, I have pain issues and any time I describe them i'm treated like im an addict trying to get a fix, like dude, I want the pain gone, I have had it for nearly 20 years and any painkiller you give me would kill me with how long I would have been taking it for, and the dose I would need makes me functionally useless.
your point at 13:35 was very good, i never thought of it xD this is actually crazy how people are ready to excuse one but not the other for no other reason than their comfort. the more we advance as society, the more i feel that humanity was a mistake, honestly.
Problem is we've stopped advancing and are actually regressing now. And yeah social media is mostly to blame for that.
My youngest son was really fat as a young kid, despite us feeding him modest. He got mocked by his classmates all the time... when he turned 12 my husband rebuild our old garage into his man-cave for himself and our two sons... wich included a set of workout gear. My oldest started weight-training with his younger brother, after he lost about 20pounds, he started accompaning us (my oldest son and me) on our daily joggingtour. It took him roughly a year too be as fit as his older brother. My youngest son knew he was obese and did something about it. These people should learn some selfcontrol, stop crying and blaming others for their own decisions... and if they cant they should seek help
42:13 that is unironically not wrong:
there are medical conditions that can cause obesity, and - in some of those cases - going on a diet can worsen their health.
You can be overweight or even obese and still be malnourished!
They are rare, but just as you can't tell a stroke from an aneurism at a glance, giving both the same treament can kill one of them.
(eg. aspirin is given to stroke patients because it reduces clotting and can thus restore the bloodflow, but that same property will worsen the hemoragy caused by an aneurism.)
Yes! Also, hormonal disorders and chronic pain and fatigue disorders are far far more common than people realize, and contribute greatly to weight issues. Obese people need stuff like that checked for and treated, and medical guidance on diet and exercise, not just told to go fix it themselves.
to be fair, many obese people literally cannot control if they are fat, like, there's been research into the epidemic of obesity that's plaguing the nation, and a considerable portion of the people who are that fat genuinely have genetic conditions that make it harder for them to lose weight, which, when combined with the modern american's high calorie diet, puts them in a steeply unfair uphill battle if they want to lose weight, even for the most motivated among them
That zombie apocalypse girl is without a doubt the dumbest thing I've heard this year
As John Mulaney once said "If you're comparing the baddness of two words and you won't even say one of them... that's the worse word."
as an Asian... yes... you can drink the broth.... its normal here
from the us here, i drink the broth too, didnt know it was "supposedly" considered bad, wonder where it came from.
hm... a new slur aye?...
Obese, Obese, Obe-
Yeah, those people live on the internet, and still don't get how it works. Their brain cells must have been obese, before disappearing from their brain
Nnn....obese
UA-cam will just shadow hide it if I did
@@one_bone_4_life647 nah, I still see it
@@xkiri7484 Pretty much the brain has lost brain its brain cells. Non active bodies are a problem that is solvable.
"And it's a doctor?!"
Dr. Anita B. Etin.
B. Etin
Be Eatin'
0% chance that is anything other than a parody account.
En eata Be eating. Pure gold
"I need to be eating" @@ilyakazantsev2698
50:26 I think welcome to zombieland gave us the answer in the first minute of the film
“Youve aged like milk spoiled stinking and ruining my meal” perfect quote from hellsing abridged let me just circumvent responsibility bc the food doesnt have moral value
I got kicked out of a community page on FB by commenting on a photo of an obese woman in a bikini "People should wear clothes for the body that they have, not the body they want."
I was obese at a point in my life, and I lost the weight partly out of spite because my doctor said that there was no way I could lose it, and said I should just get it sucked out. Unfortunately because of COVID I did gain a bunch back though
42:20 I think people misunderstand what the guy is saying, probably because a lot of doctors (including this one) are idiots who can't communicate while assuming they can (they refuse to acknowledge what they don't know). A better statement is "You can investigate for other issues while treating with weight loss, and make sure your doctor does this". A lot of doctors are very lazy and/or proud, so fail at investigative work, as the Coof proved. You need to advocate for yourself a lot with them.
There are cases where a woman had cancerous growths on her ovaries that caused symptoms seen in obesity, but also was obese. Obviously treated with weight loss, which was probably needed for issues other than what she came in for. But by the time the cancer was more obvious, it spread and was terminal, while if caught in initial investigation could've been treated. Weight loss takes time, so you might want to confirm obesity isn't the only cause for issues so you don't miss that. Not getting obese in the first place is better for the individual, and makes investigation easier. I hope the point is clearer.
The coof really makes me distrust a lot of the medical professionals. That, and the whole "plant based is healthier" lies pushing ultra-processed, pre-digested foods by the american health institutions, there is a lot to distrust about doctors.
The gut busting laughter to start the morning is a W.
Personal anecdote:
I was a super active person in my teens and twenties. There wasn't a weekend that I didn't come home from SOME "action sport" or similar activity that caused me to be completely drenched in sweat, stuff like LARP, Lasertag, gokarting (people underestimate how physically demanding motorsports are if they've never done it, I tell you!), martial arts, bouldering and so on and so forth. I had a decent job so I could afford to drop 500-700€ a month on those activities so I did. I was never GOOD at any of it, but I was having a BLAST!
Then I got mowed off my bike by a speeding idiot who didn't see or ignored a red light.
I was in the hospital for MONTHS, and it was almost a decade before I could even go back to riding a bike and I still can't do any of those weekend activities I used to love doing because it's causing me too much pain, over 15 years after the crash. Plus I lost my job and thus don't have the money for it. Obviously I gained some weight in those few years because - I'm not burning nearly as much calories as I used to, but I still kinda love me some good food, y'know...
It got to a point that any doctor I went to about my issues didn't even look at my problems, didn't even LISTEN when I told them I was in a car crash and am recovering from that and need another MRI or something of my back to see if everything is healing - they told me I needed to lose weight and that's all there is to my problems.
Eventually I happened to get a new GP (my previous one retired) and I told him about it, and he ordered an MRI - surprise surprise I had two slipped discs, but FOUR orthopedists had assured me that the ONLY problem I had was my weight, and NOTHING else was wrong with me.
So yea, in a way the guy in scrubs (shown for example at 44:44) is not entirely wrong - doctors are too often dismissive of the actual problems someone is having JUST because they're overweight or obese (I honestly don't know the difference so I can't tell you which one applies to me)
Like - dude I'm here because I WANT to lose weight but I can't because the pain is too much, I just want you to do something about the pain so I can get back to work and have a normal life again! But no. "You're fat, you need to lose weight, and that's the end of the discussion."
I can understand that people lose trust in doctors after being treated like that. I mean imagine telling someone "oh yeah, of course you're having a heart attack, that's because you're fat. Come back after you've lost some weight and MAYBE then we'll take care of your heart problems" - THAT is the kind of 'not giving medical care' that I think of when I hear people like that guy in scrubs.
... sorry this got a little more ranty than I intended. For what it's worth I'm on some painkillers now and swim about 5km a week, lost 20 pounds since the start of the year now all thanks to that new GP and the neurologist I went to after he diagnosed me.
I've lost 40 pounds and need to lose another 40-50. I was 260 and looked at myself in the mirror and was disgusted. Being fat is not ok, and our society has made it so fucking easy to get there.
Edit: So no one misunderstands. I don't advocate for shaming people due to their weight, that counterintuitive. We need to show WHY it's bad, and hopefully, they understand.
Proud of you 👏
My friends honest take on this was "why complain about a problem that's gonna solve itself"
Because the next generation is also heading the same direction.
Though the male obesity rate is actually decreasing… GG boys think out fat people are just dying faster
@5:17 that Butter Golem has enough moisture in those folds to sustain an ecosystem & it ain't from the beach either
I am dead 💀
Obese people thinking that in an apocalypse situation they don't become the emergency food source lol.
probably wont, usually resort to someone whose already done for, and with their extra storage to go off of, theyre probably eating you later
I'm 50 years old and the reason _my_ knees hurt is because I did an hour and a half of hill sprints yesterday. Fasted. At 4pm.
Based. Absolute chad.
See, the thing about classifying a word as a slur is that you aren’t going to prevent people from making fun of you, you’re just picking the next word to become a slur
I weigh 400 pounds at 34 and I fell awful my knees hurt I can't bent over or reach my feet, I struggle to lose weight and I hate it. Seeing these people around my size and both smaller and larger acting like this makes me so mad.
Oh god, 400 is big. I'm at 240 and my chronic pain and fatigue already are making it hard, so I can only imagine how hopeless you must feel. Do you have a professional helping you? If you have healthcare coverage, try getting into physical therapy and getting on a controlled diet. If not, at least get a membership at a YMCA and start going swimming and doing the water aerobics classes. It's the best way for us to exercise without injuring ourselves or over heating. Some YMCAs also seem to be involved with a meal planning thing I haven't looked into yet. Good luck. Don't give up.
@ANPC-pi9vu no professional besides my mom, who is a nurse. I'm trying some new things that seem to be working, and I'm feeling good about it. Thanks for the support.
"Patterson fire a warning exercise"
"But Gunny, this is an anti-OBESE 60 mm mortar"
"I don't give a fuck, fire the fucking medicine"
"Gun 2, 6XL Load"
"FIRE!"
Obese is a slur? Bigga please…..
As someone who has worked hard to drop 89 pounds, we do know we're fat/obese. I'm 37 6'1 and will never believe obese is a slur. Current weight 218lbs
The doctor is potentially getting a bad rap. He’s in a video about the absurdity of fat acceptance, but what he’s saying is simple. Your condition isn’t necessarily caused by your weight. You’re right. He’s right. His inclusion is kind of pointless as he made no note that being overweight is fine.
I have one of these "extremely rare" medical conditions. Was fat despite not eating a lot and moving my body. My doctor told me that all of my health problems were a result from being fat. Until I had to visit the ER and they refered me to a specialist. Turns out that my weight was a symptom and not the cause.
If other doctors would have told me to "just lose weight", I would probably be dead.
Now I take medication. One pill a day prevents me from having a stroke at 36 and fixed my methanolism. Lost 50 kg since I started my treatment and I am almost at a BMI that is considered "healthy" now. Without any changes in life style or nutrition.
My case is in fact exceedingly rare. But it proves that denying people health care on the grounds that they are obese alone, can cost lives.
Of course everyone should aspire to have a healthy weight. And of course there is an obesity crisis. Everyone can see that. (literally. it's hard to not notice chonky people based on their size alone)
But everyone deserves to be treated fairly by their healthcare system.
Just because some things are not common, does not mean that they do not exist
Just wanted to add that the ER visit was unrelated to my weight and that I never looked anything like the people in the video. I was overweight and never obese. But the same logic applies: There is exceptions to every rule.
Just an aside, this is also what I think about the harms of medically transitioning. Especially to those who think kids should "transition". I have an insane amount of disdain who reject or ignore reality and encourage harm on themselves.
@@phnx-en7hi some people nowadays just go full stupid. Like her son likes barbie (attractive women). Or girls and sport. Trans operation the next day.
for me the problem with the "Obesity isnt always the problem" argument is that i cant believe it from obese people, its either 100% their obesity or their own obesity doesnt let the professionals see the real problem, the real fucked up shit is with overweight people who are suddenly hard of breathing, go see whats the problem, the doctor only says "Lose weight" even though the person didnt have that problem before even being overweight and then they die suddenly for a fucking ulcera, happend to a friends mother, the lady must have been a few kilos over weight for years, suddenly felt herselg having problems breathing, oh wow, it was an ulcera breaking and her insides melting yet some idiot thought it was because they where overweight, i have seen those cases more than in the obese cases
Obesity is a medical term. Same as retardation, except its also term in engineering, plumbing, etc. Its people getting offended that makes the language change. Homosexuality wasnt even used in medical text and was referred to as an actual condition, because it goes against the instinct to procreate. Up until in your parents' lifetime. In your grandarents day, the n word was prefferd to other words, like the medical term from the victorian era, negroid. Then after everyone using it, the n word became offensive, and the pre victorian era term was nubian. And no one thinks that one was bad. Its all based on the new phenomnom of "social contracts" changing language. People claiming to be educated because a college is willing to teach it to justify their admission prices, so they placate the lowest common denominator.
these ppl are doing such mental gymnastics that if they were doing those same gymnastics physically they wouldn't be obese
"Do you think the word 'obese' is as bad as the n word?"
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Yes
@@thezabrak650 Nebraska?
😂 COD player spotted?
As much as I hate giving people "passes" to say slurs, if obese is a slur, as a 28yo man with a big belly and is 187 pounds, I give you all in the comment section an "o-word" pass if I'm allowed
So a quick check on a bmi calculator later and I'm classified as obese well fortunately I have a job that I'll be working at for either 4 or 6 days a week depending on the week so I'll probably be losing weight from that
"You're fat"
"Don't call me that"
"Would you prefer I call you dead?"
"No"
"Should I call you an ambulace?"
"Why"
"Because you're gonna be"
44:10 The doctor is correct. If a medical professional will not consider all possibilities then you should find another doctor. Yes, most cases of being overweight and having joint pain are self inflicted, but sometime the joint pain is the root cause for why people don't exercise. e.g. I have tendonitis in my shoulder so you won't see me do more than 10 push ups. A good doctor will find the root cause with you, not force a diagnosis based on assumptions.
28:17 for real whenver i see that sequence of hand movement with that passive agressive tone, i catch a fking rage !!!!!!
My Aunt is a Nurse who is Obese, and she’s been… unhappy, about the idiocy of making a medical term a slur
She’s in her 60’s, and doesn’t care anymore about herself, and tries to explain why it’s bad from her view as a Nurse (40 years) and suffering from obesity for most her life why it’s bad, but it’s like preaching to a wall according to her.
@40:00 .. no joke, I WAS going to post about my "skinniness" JUST so i could get the "anorexic" comments.. but now that you've called it out, i HAVE to 🤣
Hiya! 5'10" 115lb. male here! Please, let the jokes roll in! (i particular like the ones where im told to "put on a parachute pants, and just like a kite, fly away" those are the most hilarious)
(but legit, its a health thing. highazz metabolism. I shake my lil toe, and lose 5 pounds 😅)
I love how she makes fun of people with anime avatars while she's a cartoon personality lmao, she's so based
WHAT DO U MEAN "to deny medical-?!"
Ad: "POTATOES!"
Potato is a slur
i've struggled with weight for most of my life. partly cause of dysphoria giving me crippling depression, partly cause i'm a big eater, and cause no one really taught me how to eat well and live healthy. I've had to figure things out myself. That's led to a lot of trial and error with different things. Cutting things out of my diet, limiting things i eat, doing more exercise, etc. I walk everywhere cause i don't have a car. I try all kinds of different things to no avail. But i still try to lose the weight so i can live healthy and long. I hate my body cause of how heavy it is which inspires me to change. I do use plus size instead of obese but that's a personal choice. Seeing people like this makes me wanna lose the weight more as i don't wish to be associated with these people
44:20 my guy works for the insurance companies. He wants you to get expensive tests that your doctor is trying to save you from by finding the underlying cause for
"When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebra's" one of the first symptoms of Lyme Disease (to the cooked person giving you money) is joint pain. that's why it's really hard to get an accurate diagnosis of it even if you're a healthy weight. BUT, if you're not a fatass, they'll start to think of other issues that could be causing it. Obesity causes SOOO many issues, that a lot of them can be solved by losing weight instead of paying thousands of dollars on medications throughout your life.
and yes, i'm fatphobic. If an obese person falls on me... i'll probably die.
As an obese bloke, I get pissed off when people try to pussy foot around it. I'm fat, call it what it is, fat, unhealthy, and objectively makes me less attractive and less valuable as a human.
17:12 doctors also DONT advocate for people being obese because it’s unhealthy
I've had interesting interactions with medical professionals about my weight, I've been a bigger dude most of my life (260lbs in high school while only being slightly above average in height) but I've also always been active and ate a varied diet/worked on farms. I came to the city and my first doctor visit I was told I was obese, I asked "how, I can touch my toes, run, jump, climb etc without being winded" and the doc just pointed at his chart. After a few years of working at losing weight and having regular checkups I decided to try going to a sports physician who dealt with football players and such. Bro tells me "you're not obese, you've got some extra weight for sure and couls stand to lose 10lbs or so but you're not obese. Moral is, don't just believe the charts folks are built different and sometimes you need a specialized viewpoint.
bro you where 120 KG in high school you are the definition of obese i really doubt all of that was muscles lol how tall where you
also being obese dose not necessarily mean you lack stamina or flexibility
42:30 You guys are misunderstanding. He's not saying that the obesity shouldn't be addressed, he's saying that the obesity should not be assumed to be the cause, and he is right. If that obese person has cancer, telling them to loose weight isn't going to help them. There are also ailments that can contribute to weight gain and make weight loss almost impossible, like certain hormonal disorders. Diagnosis can sometimes be the first step towards obese people who are suffering from more than just obesity being able to finally do something about their health. I'm obese and I struggle with it, and it def contributes to my problems... but I also had undiagnosed hypothyroidism and fibromyalgia. Now that I am addressing those conditions, I feel like there's some hope of getting in shape. Doctors need to do diagnostics and send patients to specialists, not just tell a person 'loose weight' and assume that solves anything. I mean, fuck's sake, even if the weight is the entirety of the cause, send the person to a physical therapist and a dietician to help them get on the right track.
Luckily for you Alana UA-cam censorship makes it too frustrating to roast people now days
I think Alana and the original video are really unfair to that doctor. From what little is shown of him all he seems to be saying to me is that just because you're obese doesn't mean doctors should attribute all of your symptoms to that and not do their due diligence . He never says obesity doesn't cause problems. I think that one chatter was trying to make the same point.
Imagine you tell your doctor you have knee pain, and all they do is tell you to loose weight. Then you go home and die because you had septic arthritis
Yo some random chatter said "Erectile Dysfunction is a slur" and i can't stop fucking laughing LMAOO
Edit it was SnailPrincess at 21:25
I used to be incredibly skinny. I had basically a hyper metabolism that could burn off anything I ate with no effort from my part. I could lay in bed all day and still lose weight. I ate enough food for two people from the age of 14 to 28 and never went above 10st/140lbs.
But now my metabolism has slowed down and at the age of 31, almost 32 I have gained roughly 20-25lbs. I am now slightly overweight for my height and build. But that's because my diet hasn't changed. I still eat the same amount.
I acknowledge the fact that I am getting fat because it's of my own doing. Nobody else is to blame for my weight gain. If I don't change, I will just get bigger, and if that happens I WANT people to shame me for it. I need that motivation to make me change.