This is how martial artists should treat eachother, respect, kindness and love. Trying to understand other arts, learning. Not insulting eachother and acting superior. Social media is a cancer on the martial arts community.
I'm a fan of both of these channels, and a shotokan practitioner myself. This was a very Interesting set of questions, I happen to have some of Ed parkers books too, they are quite informative.
Holy shit I'm excited for this. Now that I've watched this. I'm an American Kenpo practitioner myself, I do love the system. I can say a flaw of it is sometimes you can get too into the "theory" of the combat side and forget how fast paced things really are, which is why it's important if your school spars regularly and OFTEN.
Exactly! That's what I meant by sometimes it can be perceived as too much academic information because sometimes people get stuck on it. I agree, the academics mean nothing if you can't apply them in application, and the best application other than a real dangerous situation...is sparring.
I think it was Gichin Funakoshi who said kata should be practiced and understood to the point where you can use the kata on the spot, those niche moves you at times see in kata and just think they'd never work do actually work when you know when to use them and when you use them properly. a Shotokan practicioner myself but yeah.
@@david.g.3048 I used a 3 step motion from one of our Kenpo forms to deflect a punch. Saw it coming out of the corner of my eye and I just instinctively did it. Surprised the hell out of the other person and me as well because it just...happened...I didn't even have to think about it.
Great interview Yusuke san. I originally started with American Kempo back in 1978. I ironically changed to traditional Japanese karate 8 years later and I'm still actively training today.
What a great day! My 2 favorite UA-cam instructors on one show. I am in my 43rd year of training in the arts (Kenpo, Tang Soo Do and Silat)and I learn from you 2 youngsters on a regular basis. Thank you both.
How nice to see you Sensei Yusuke, at last collaborate with Sensei Dan from American Kenpo Karate. Both of your UA-cam channels, both explore different styles of martial arts, compare and examine how they are similar or different to both of your respective Karate styles. I saw yesterday your video collaboration, on Sensei Dan's UA-cam channel: 'The Art of One Dojo'. From what I can see in this video, it seems generally in Japan the Japanese people want to preserve the already established traditional martial arts styles, while in America they want to continue the evolving of those traditional martial arts styles. Excellent work as always, looking forward to your possible further collaborations in the future, with Sensei Dan, Osu!🇲🇽🇦🇺🥋
There is a bottom part of Kenpo that Mr Parker taught, or stressed to extreme to some.. Almost nobody does it. It involves the contact and control manipulation and joint locking and destruction of the legs in the base techs. Done simultaneously or by themselves. Like doing techniques leg striking only with more Judo type hand applications. It is mentioned but not used regularly and destructively. Salute.
I do highlight a little bit of this in our next episode together, I talk about how in our close range self defense we're doing just as much destruction with our knees and legs as we are with our arms. I'm not sure Sensei will use the clip but I demonstrated it with Thundering Hammers, how the lower legs are mirroring the action of the upper body in terms of damage and destruction.
My sensei had GoDan in American Kenpo and also a Shotokan Black Belt. It is possible his Black Belt in Shotokan was Actaully under Bill Ryusaki who studied Shotokan, Judo, and KajuKenbo and founded the Ryu Dojo Hawaiian Kenpo. (I don't believe it is affialiated with The Pit Hawaiian Kenpo MMA). The style we practiced used English names for most Kihon and we also learned simplified Kenpo Techniques as well as some Judo and Aikido Techniques.
@@artisticsolarninja negative. The history says that it was 6 masters that came together to make Kajukenbo. And so far? Most masters agree it was sijo that made it happen (with a team work situation)
@@artisticsolarninja as I understand, the masters got together and created the art together. Korean karate, judo, jujitsu, kenpo, and American/Chinese boxing ( kajukenbo). Basically? All was a student of the other, but a master of their art. Am I wrong?
So happy to see 2 of my favorite MArts UA-camrs together ! Even though I train in Taijutsu (or ninjutsu , not what it really is but that's what people generally call it;)) , I have a backround in Shotokan, and one of my teachers also does MMA and another is a 3rd dan in judo, so we get a lot of "modern" training as well, and I also do Iaido (here's looking at you Yasuke! Are you ever going to do more Iaido do you think??) . I know what a random viewer trains in isn't really a big deal, but only mention so both of you know who your audience is, and how you still apeal to Martial Artists as a whole! Neither art I train in is a big topic that you guys cover, but arts are so beatiful together if that makes any sense? That's why I love your respective channels you guys both really do some awesome exploration and have refreshing open minds.
The question was asked whether Kenpo considers itself "karate" or is it just kenpo. When I was young I used to watch kung fu theater! I wanted to learn kung fu. I looked up kung fu schools in my area. I ran across a Kenpo Karate school and it was advertised as "Kenpo Karate: Chinese Kung Fu." I signed up for it and loved it. Unfortunately, I couldn't afford to stay in the classes.
This is to Mr. Dan and the Japanese Sensei. I want to applaud the both of you for creating this video for all of us fellow martial arts practitioners. As I’ve stated before my school here in Toronto Canada does Shotokan kata up to 1st Dan and then we introduce Goju Ryu kata into our system as we believe it compliments the body and allows you to mix the hard with the soft. As the both of you know, Shotokan is worlds away from being classified as a soft style and is very tough and hard on the body which is why our school has implemented the Goju Ryu. We. Are rooted in tradition but have modernized our curriculum to include some kickboxing and Muay Thai techniques, Jiujitsu, Kobudo which is a requirement to pass your black belt and beyond, as well as some ground work when time permits. Having said that, our system was named Sheishinkan karate which was developed by our school founder. It’s a blessing to see the Japanese Sensei on this channel explore many martial arts and not to mention very refreshing. I personally have a friend at my club who came from an American Kenpo Karate school who recently taught me “Five Swords.” Which I have been repeatedly practicing. Thanks so much to the both of you and please keep up the great work 👍🏾
Many are not aware of the Kenpo/Shito-Ryu connections in Japan. The founder of ShitoRyu Kenwa Mabuni had called his art Nippon Kenpo Jiu-Jitsu. [other words were in the name] Then Mabuni changed the name of his Art to Shito-Ryu. Much later in the US, Ed Parkers early student, teaching for him, Dan Inosanto (went with Bruce Lee) had trained in Shito-Ryu also. Many common aspects became apparent over time.
@@ArtofOneDojo i agree. He has.done quite a bit and grown in the 4 months or so i subbed Your content is diverse as well Master Dan. Have you or would you do a collaboration with Enter the Dojo Show?
Great exchange here! I really liked how Sensei Dan stated Kempo had it's roots in Shotokan, but had mixes from other places and experiences, like Ed Parker's street fights. Hearing about this contrast, of how Kempo always seeking to evolve while Shotokan Karate in Japan finds beauty in preservation, that was pretty deep. Both are valid. Anyway, hope to see more collaboration between these two channels in the future.
Professor Chow was a Shotkan practitioner, boxer, and I believe judo/jujitsu taught to black belts after regular classes. He brought his students to Hotel st, to practice against drunk US servicemen. Kung fu in Hawaii was restricted to Chinese. Professor Chow was Korean/Hawaiian. Mitose was friends with several famous Okinawans, while in Japan. I had a pamphlet called Kung Fu, written by Parker, the illustrations were karate, but I believe, without the gi. Kenpo embraced karate, when karate movies were popular, then kung fu, when Bruce Lee's movies became popular. Although Emperado had kung fu in his mix, he emphasized it more when he moved to San Francisco. When you mix styles, you continue mixing, it's in your psyche, to continue adding.
From dabbling in Japanese JiuJutsu to Villari's Kempo to Nick Cerio's Kenpo to Shotokan to Japanese Jujitsu to TKD to Okinawan Seidokan karate. That's the skeleton of my 45 years. Karate history in Okinawa was much more like the US in combining, altering, blending, and evolving.
For a time, Tracy's kenpo was the largest martial arts organization in the US and Canada with over 200 schools. This was in the 1970s. They had hired the man who did Arthur Murray's Dance studios and used that as a business model. They basically invented the best business model ever in the martial arts to this day.
The Tracy’s claimed lots of things They didn’t create the dance studio model they basically left Ed Parker broke off, changed the names of the techniques. Abandon the principles Ed Parker was developing, and certainly didn’t hire a man from Arthur Murray. They may claim that but EP used that template as business structure before Tracys and to augment further one of EP black belts was AE VEA who owned/operated the first Fred Astaire dance studio franchise east of the Mississippi 1961 in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania who studied under Ed Parker who was huge leap of expansion of IKKA. Mr veas experience of operating a dance studio was valuable info for EP to incorporated curriculum to kenpo “chart” 32 system. Mr Vea was the first in the Midwest to expand the IKKA franchise in 1969/70 was VP of East Coast of IKKA -Huk planas was brown belt newly promoted 1st/Shodan then was part of documenting the curriculum with Mr Vea
@@tsan3796 I realize there are a lot of different opinions of those early kenpo days. I have never been part of that political stuff. For me, going to that place in Indianapolis with the Tracy's Karate sign changed my martial arts voyage for the better. Their head instructor was from San Jose and had trained under Bob Babich whose Kang Duk Won karate and Kyokushin school turned out some of the best fighters in Northern California. So that's what I learned.
Great video I do have a 1st degree black belt in both styles. I originally started to study Washin Ryu Karate under Master Hidy Ochiai. I moved a round a lot and eventually settled down. I’ve been a martial arts practitioner for 26 years. I’ve studied numerous other styles in my training and I believe Kenpo compliments Shotokan very well.
Years back an Ed Parker American Kenpo group in Northern Calif. had a Sensei who was saying, “If you want to learn the ABCs of Karate, take Shotokan. If you want to learn the rest of the alphabet, take Kenpo!” A couple of friends of mine were living near there and thought that attitude was strange as Mr. Parker and Mr. Ohshima (our Shihan) were friends, so they paid that Kenpo group a visit. My friends asked to spar with the Sensei, but he said they had to fight his senior student first. Kenny fought the student, foot swept him and dropped him. Then the Sensei fought Kenny and also was foot swept and dropped. My friend Tom never got to fight. LOL
@@ArtofOneDojo I follow Yusuke and enjoy his videos, even loved his videos when he traveled to Okinawa and practiced different forms of traditional karate. It’s so good
This was great. My Kenpo Instructor still taught the sparring techniques B1A, KB1A, etc... when I was taught from 2000-2005. He retired last year and am not sure if he continued teaching those techniques or not. I think that distinct style of Kenpo Dan has mentioned is probably more obscure now because a lot of those Sensei's who were taught by Ed Parker are now retiring. Kenpo does morph so much between schools and to keep up with the times, that it can be hard to identify or classify what the original art was. I would say the survival of a particular Kenpo style depends on if the best black belts decide to teach or not. I never quite earned a black belt or continued persistent study of the art but maintained an interest and practiced with other schools here and there. But I have a lot of muscle memory from those sparring drills and contact sparring from those 5 years. In a way I kinda feel bad for not being able to fully carry on the legacy of how Kenpo was in the 80s and 90s Era.
Very cool discussion gentlemen. It is perhaps useful to mention that Japanese Karate (empty hand) comes from Ryukyuan Karate (Chinese hand) which comes from Southern Chinese Chuan Fa. In Hawaii, the first to introduce Kenpo Karate to the public there was Thomas Miyashiro who was joined by Mizuho Mutsu and Kamesuke Higashionna, students of Choki Motobu (in 1933). It was because of those sensei spreading the art to the public in Hawaii and the books and writings about it that they introduced that inspired James Mitose to start teaching Kenpo in Hawaii in 1942. The curriculum of which was the Naihanchi Kata (Choki Motobu's specialty) and Makiwara conditioning and techniques using the 6 foot staff (Bo). William Chow studied Chuan Fa in Maui, Hawaii with other Chinese Masters who belonged to the Tong there as did his father. Most of whom were Cantonese (Southern Chinese) before he got the job to protect Mitose and his "business" establishment. The founder of American Kenpo was initially exposed to a Kenpo that was a blend of Southern Chinese Martial Arts and Ryukyuan Kenpo, that Chow was calling Kenpo Karate initially (he used multiple names throughout his life). When the future founder of American Kenpo, SGM Ed Parker started teaching Kenpo Karate in California, Ming Lum who was friends with his father in Hawaii and who now was a well respected and connected man in California and a student of Lau Bun, a Choy Li Fut Master introduced him to all the top Chinese Martial Arts masters teaching in California and it was thanks to that introduction and his previous training under William Chow that they were willing to share so much more information and techniques with Mr. Parker. Thus the initial Kenpo Karate became "Chinese Kenpo" and the second book, Secrets of Chinese Karate was published. Eventually, Mr. Parker developed a way to teach in a manner tailored for the American mindset that also fit with the American way of life and using English language and relatable western analogies he conveyed elements that American students would have had a difficult time understanding without long and in-depth study of Southern Chinese Martial Arts, which is how we get to American Kenpo. Thus we have the Infinite Insights volumes 1-5 and eventually the Encyclopedia of Kenpo (published after his passing). So you see Japanese Karate which was pioneered by Ryukyuan Karate sensei but adapted to the Japanese culture at that time in history comes from the same source (Kosanku - Sakugawa) as the martial arts that most predominantly influenced American Kenpo (Southern Chinese Chuan Fa) Especially Choy Li Fut, Hung Gar, Mok Gar, Bak Mei, Wing Chun and a few others (though we had Northern Chinese Martial Arts influence from Yang Family Tai Chi Chuan, Northern Shaolin and San Soo which is a blend of Northern and Southern arts. The genius of Mr. Parker was in taking the vast amount of information contained in all those arts and his boxing, Lua and judo backgrounds and organizing it into a progressive and systematic curriculum taught in English in a fashion suitable to the American way of life. (Yes I know I left out a bunch of details but this is a UA-cam comment).
They are a lot of styles of Kenpo and there is a lot of them The only styles of kenpo that i like is Kajukenbo, Shorinji Kempo and Traditional Okinawa Kenpo
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I do traditional Jujitsu and the concepts are, in a way, similar. It gets to the point where martial arts will start looking the same when fighting. There's a lot to experiment within my system, much like how Daniel discussed with his Kenpo. One of the major keypoints is I do a lot more grappling, where he would do more striking.
I would say they start looking the same from an outside perspective. If you were watching another Jujitsu practitioner then I am sure you'd see a lot more technical detail and signature moves than those who are not in the art. I agree completely that a person's background will affect their experimentation. It's a fascinating study in my opinion.
@@ArtofOneDojo Exactly. I started Kenpo around 1990 give or take after doing wrestling in High School. One of the other guys who started same time I did was a wrestler when he was younger (he had like 20 years on me in age) and we both could spot the wrestler trying to do karate. We were great on the holds and grabs section of class.
I started out in Shotokan at age 13. Years later I switched to Kenpo. I love it. The economy of motion, controlling height, width, depth principles are fantastic (as your guest explained.) I have found it good if you have to fight in close quarters (I was a bouncer at a bar and it came in handy.) After many years in Kenpo I became disillusioned with it. Way too many 10th dans, grandmasters, etc. After Ed Parker died Kenpo really lost its identity. It’s not a structured school but very fragmented. I recently went back to Shotokan and enjoy it. It has continuity and structure and a grand history. I love Kenpo but also enjoy training in Shotokan again.
This is a fantastic video. I am a student of Kenpo (with no other martial arts experience) and have always wanted to know differences between it and traditional systems.
The version of kenpo I practice went the opposite way of Ed Parker. We picked up traditional Okinawan kata. Much of which resemble the arts based on Shuri Te. The Arviso's and Porchas families often went to kempo competitions with Ed Parker, and they are the ones that brought my style to Yuma Arizona. I had to trace our lineage, and it appears to go as such: Mitose (mentions Motobu as a great kempoist) Chow Alo Arviso Porchas Cano Christensen (me) And Motobu Hsiang Trias Alo Arviso Porchas Cano Christensen (me)
The Kempo federation in my country has all sorts of events: - MMA with shorter rounds, only for adults - Full-contact (like MMA, but only grappling on the ground) - grappling - point-fighting - knockdown (it's like Kyokushin + grappling and body-punching on the ground)
I was lucky to be a direct personal student of Mr Parker for over 10 years until his passing. Much of the early sparring offensive techniques came from the World Heavyweight Karate and the Kickboxing Champion Joe Lewis. I was trained by him also. The shuffling front leg side-thrust kick followed by a turning back kick was a combo. Front leg round kicks set in to front hand punch. Direct front hand strikes to head with a reverse punch to body. Lots of ridgehand (reverse chop) combinations to the head. You mentioned a step-through lunge punch also. Timing for some punches like that is different. The hand moves before the body which acts like a whip and is recoiled. Others use the rear hand body rotation for power. Thanks!
The truth is in fighting you are your skill all arts basically are the same with the common goal of protecting and defending your Life and destroying your Target in a cool style efficient manner from always all sides there is no this way or that way take this and combine it with that then you can create something great the ultimate goal is to be an overall better human being be ready at all times and stay Sharp excellent material as always peace be well fight on
@@K1-Glory American Kenpo isn't a "copy", it's a completely different system. It draws influence from other arts, but it is not approached or taught the same at all as more traditional Chinese Kempo is. It has been specifically molded for modern day self defense in America.
@@K1-Glory Oh of course, but American Kenpo has continued to evolve too. I'm not saying one system is better than the other, I'm just saying that American Kenpo is not a "copy" of Chinese Kenpo, it's just an entirely different system altogether.
@@K1-Glory Absolutely. This episode is just an intro, check back because Sensei Yusuke interviewed me for two more episodes about Kenpo and we get into more detail. I also have a "Origin of American Kenpo" on my channel that goes in depth too, I would recommend that if you're interested in more information on the art :)
@@K1-Glory Oh there are many different types of American Kenpo tournaments. Many of them are very similar to traditional Karate where it is pointed based...first fighter to 3 points wins. Unlike other Karate tournaments there usually isn't a difference in point from head shots to body shots, but any landed strike above the belt, on the torso, kidney, or sides and top of the head count as a single point. There are also tournaments that are continuous and points are just added up at the end, or they fighters will go until one of them submits. Kenpo 5.0, which is an offshoot, has tournaments like that and the fights will go to the ground and they will grapple too. If you want to learn more about how the art started and is structured, we have a video on that: ua-cam.com/video/fk_RkZortw8/v-deo.html
Great Interview, Jeff Speakman name came up, can you do a reaction video to his movie The Perfect Weapon, that was the first time American Kenpo and Kenpo Sticks was seen in an American main stream movie. Great Interview
As the invited said in the Begining Ed Parker¨s kenpo was more like a Japanese Karate, because he had learned James Mitose Japanese Kenpo in Hawai,see this old film: ua-cam.com/video/wfS7BA3XYDw/v-deo.html But whe he had a Dojo in pasadena California, he hired an American-Chinese instructor whose name was Jimy Wing Woo who was a Kung Fu master, and it was when Ed Parker´s Kenpo changes in a combination of Japanese Kenpo and Chinese Kung Fu.
Ed Parker is the founder we follow with west wind karate in utah. I would agree with him there is a ton of overlaps. That being said I wouldn’t want to go up against a master of it. I’m a yellow belt… the masters of our school so scary… but awesome! We are doing a challenge this weekend I would look it up on Facebook.
Questions: 1 in japan, what is the general meaning of the word kenpo? 2 About What people over there associate the word the most? 3 Kenpo was known in mainland japan before karate?
Ed Parker took applied mathematics, physics, and geometry? And converted it into a language of combat..... American kenpo is base on straight lines and circles, the source of its effectiveness comes from body mechanics, footwork, positioning and leverage placement. American Kenpo is Ed Parkers personal expression of combat (no different than Bruce Lee creating Jkd), and made it adaptable for self defense and overall situations depending on space and environment. I never studied American Kenpo. But, l have a great respect for the art itself no matter what.
Question: How would Kūdo Daido Juku be if it had elements from traditional Shotokan? Also, what's your opinion on Kyukushin Karate? ( P.S Amazing episode, both of you are great and experienced senseis)
I feel like it’s hard to apply shotokan ideas to kudo because of the rule set. Shotokan is point based fighting throughout all the different organizations, but kudo is full contact and almost mma. I think some of the sweeps and throws used in WKF karate could be translated into kudo. Personally I think kyokushin is one of the strongest styles of karate.
I moved from Tae kwon do to American Kenpo under Master Manny Reyes Sr. because i could not get my black belt because of my age. I still practice today and am teaching my daughters (as best i can, teaching is totally different) but am looking for a like-minded school.
Formal guest request. Please interview Shihan Patrick McCarthy. If you want to talk about organized and systematized Karate and Kata breakdown, he is your man. He is also a great Karate historian.
I'm a fan of both channels as well and practice American Kenpo and Wing Chun.Sensei what do you think of Shorinji Ryu or Koshiki?Their full contact matches look brutal!!!
Have you watched Jet Li's recent Taiji Film GSD Gong Shou Dao. 功守道電影完整版 Jet Li, Tony Jaa, Donnie Yen in a TaiJi tournament with Jack Ma . Also had fighting input with sammo and yuen wo ping.
You will find it on Jet's UA-cam channel. It only lasts for about 15 mins or so and is kind of like a promotional video because JL is trying to bring gsd to the Olympics in the future.
There are many and more interesting styles with in Japan to cover, for example!!!!! Kudo & Shidokan wich showcase the evolution of Martial arts a d Karate. No Bullshido please
Kenpo, also spelled Kempo is the most widely taught martial art in the United States. There are many masters and many off shoots. Kajekembo is a child of Kenpo, among other arts such as Judo and Boxing. My master, who has since passed away, described the style this way. Imagine that a martial artist from China married a martial artist from Okinawa and then both taught their children? That would describe Kenpo. Except that now, that child has married and had children from the Filipines and Brazil. The concept of Kenpo is to grow and adapt, so that it is a self defense system relative to the times. The major shortcoming of Kenpo is that it is a short range art. Not saying that practitioners aren't capable of long range attacks, each person is different. What I am saying is that the basis of the art, occurs mostly within trapping range. Joint attacks and manipulation are a large part of Kenpo, Chin-Na is a large part of Kenpo, Kali is also a large part of Kenpo. It is still in evolution.
@@luxurybuzz3681 There will always be trends in martial arts and sports style fighting too. The locks and holds you see in BJJ and such have always been part of martial arts. Remember that the original purpose of martial arts was to kill an enemy, not to take a belt. Adjustments have to be made for the purpose of sports and the survival of the participants. Also, a school teaching martial arts doesn't like to see paying students sidelined with injuries. There's no profit in that. My Kenpo master advised me that an effective technique could be formed from almost any contact sport. Simply by understanding what moves are considered illegal or forbidden. It is those moves that are capable of doing the greatest harm.
Is Kenpo Karate or American Kenpo a style of karate? This is a question that is at the heart of debate and discussion, and has been for decades. Dan is not wrong when he said the answer is both yes and no. To try to distill an explanation down as simple as possible, there is a lot of Okinawan karate at the heart of American Kenpo. However, Kenpo is the Japanese translation of the Chinese phrase “Chuan-Fa”. Chinese characters are almost identical to the Japanese kanji for Kenpo. Quite literally anyone familiar with both Chinese martial arts as well as the karate styles of Okinawa in Japan can look at Kenpo and see that it is a fusion that incorporates the physical movements as well as the principles, concepts and techniques of both KungFu systems and karaté systems. This fusion has grown and evolved on its own to the point where it feels as if it is its own complete and separate martial arts system which is why some will argue that Kempo Karate or American Kenpo Karate is Karate in name only but it’s technically not a karate style or a kung fu style while others will argue that it is both a karate style and a kung fu style. The simplest explanation from my perspective is that it is a fusion deeply rooted in Okinawan, Japanese and Chinese martial arts that has additional subtle influences from Polynesian martial arts as well as different martial arts systems from the Philippines as well.
16:04 it honestly sounds a little bit like Judo but with strikes, as in, having a big ass repertoir of strikes but on an organised manner instead of just "just do thing"
Granted it hasn't occurred to the extent it happens in the West, but I don't agree with Yusuke's point of Japanese "preserving" their arts - I feel a lot of that is a case of honouring their instructors and organizations by paying lip service to preserving the teachings. Setting Okinawa aside, if we look at mainland Japan, look at all the offshoots that came out of Shotokan. Look at how much Shotokan evolved. Look at all the innovations Gigo Funakoshi introduced into Shotokan to the point that Nakayama didn't recognize the art when returning from military service. All the Kyokushin offshoots, etc. The crucial difference vs the US is not being able to approach martial arts with a consumer mindset which allows you to mix and match and build as you see fit which meant Japanese arts had to evolve from within, rather that across, which is a slower process.
Appreciated Master. Thanks for such an interesting interview and your clever smart idea of We, a group of kenpo karate practitioners, are planning to visit Japan next spring. We would deeply appreciate to know if visiting and/or training in a Japanese dojo is a possibility that actually exists somewhere there in Tokyo. If possible. Can we get in contact?
Isnt it sad that Taekwando is more popular than Karate? Even though it's basically Karate with modified kicks. And the irony of TKD being an Olympic sport far earlier than Karate despite the good press and cultural influences of Karate in the States
Dan, your responses like to put words into my mouth at various points. Are you reading the histories I presented in an emotional state? See that is how you insinuate the possible badnes of somebody. You know, "Hey, have stopped beating you dog?" Niw I am sure that even if you are a cat person, you hold no animosity toward canines. Am I right? Jeff stopped the ground pattern he was eorking with Pribble, look straight at Mr. Sepulveda and I and stopped the seminar to tell us that kenpo was anachronistic and 5.0 wss on the rise. Does that clear it or do we gi around again?
You didn't reply to the thread, instead made a new comment? I'm honestly not even sure what you're arguing anymore, you're throwing around conjecture and irrelevant stories. Speakman trained under Parker, Speakman revamped the system with his 5.0 system. Not sure what you're debating that but it's clear it's not from a point of experience.
@@ArtofOneDojo I have Many Kenpo Friends Richard Noriega among others , I use to go years ago to his Panamerican Tournaments in Miami Beach Manny Reyes Open , I practice Kuk Sool with Gustavo Toledo in Homestead , But know many Kenpo Guys including Mr Taz
@@xtream5productions56 I have many friends here that have trained with or attended his tournaments. I have not met him personally. I'm closer with the Sean Kelley group, and several good friends in the area from various Kenpo schools.
Can you tell your audience the truth about Taekwando? It's a direct copy of Karate (it's even called Korean Karate after Korea was annexed). Koreans adopted the Karate uniform Gi, Dan belt grading system, all the Katas and said Taekwando (Hapkido, Tangsoodo all the 'dos') is an ancient martial arts which preceded Karate. Koreans are known to copy and claim Chinese and Japanese cultures and martial arts is no different. They even claim Kendo as a Korean sword art (called Kumdo).
@@brawlerboi_4468 That's because he's currently in a deep dive of Kenpo at the moment. He produces a lot of videos releasing like 2-5 a week. I understand wanting your art covered but give it time, all of these Martial Arts UA-cam channels put a lot of time into their work.
@@danielsanz2061 but that is what you don't get I've been asking for this for three months straight you don't need to convince me to stop. Because I've basically given up. I will go elsewhere.
@@brawlerboi_4468 Hi, I also replied to a similar comment above, but there really isn't fair to get upset over him not covering a video. As a content creator I get requests every day and we have to look at them all, balance them, research them, and plan out a production and release schedule. If you're sending him constant requests for Kudo, and Chris Wong is sending him constant requests for boxing...can you imagine how many requests he's getting a day from other people and for other arts? There are HUNDREDS of arts out there, and people ask me to cover theirs all the time. I would LOVE to, but in order to do it...we want to do it correctly. It's not a five minute process. If you are only on this channel for Kudo...then maybe you should be watching more Kudo based videos. But if you want to appreciate a wide range of martial arts and experience Yusuke's journey as he explores other ideas...then this is a great channel. There really isn't any reason to be upset, or rude, or demand content. I'm sure he'll produce it if/when he can but in the meantime it's worth appreciating what he DOES put out.
Why A.K.K. "masters" r so poor physical condition. I see much more stuborn I belly carriers before nimble legs and arms trained practitioners, for a "martial art", supposedly, fast-acting when faced with the need to defend themselves. Also today AK.K. it was losing originality. Now it resembles Kudo, and other martial arts that master techniques on the ground.
Here we go. Speakman was not a student of Ed Parker. Speakman did not make a new kenpo he prefixed the attack's and added that movie fu kick to the leg to widen the attackers base. Dan doesn't speak for kenpo, it speaks for itself.
Jeff Speakman first trained in Goju Ryu under Lou Angel, who referred him to Ed Parker for Kenpo. He trained with Larry Tatum and then ultimately was a direct student of Mr. Parker. Both Mr. Speakman and Mr. Parker stated this. Jeff Speakman did not make a "new" Kenpo, but he did a major revision. Far more than just a few prefix moves and leg kicks. It retains Parker's principles but takes a much more modern approach. Speakman studied BJJ and then implemented a lot of it directly into the curriculum. There is a heavy emphasis on sparring, grappling, and hard contact application. The techniques have been heavily revised and many new techniques added. There is a huge difference between Kenpo 5.0 and traditional Ed Parker Kenpo. I don't know your experience in the art, but I speak as someone who had trained in both Parker and Kenpo 5.0, in a school directly under Speakman's umbrella and I keep regular contact with those currently training in 5.0. It continues to change and grow. Kenpo 5.0 today is very different from 5.0 fifteen years ago.
Jeff insulted every living senior kenpo bb living at Mr. White's studio saying that 5.0 was superior to the kenpo learned and taught for the 40 years thst came before his association eith Mr. Parker as the technical fight coordinator for the Perfect Weapon. Dan, you east coast facts don't match up with the west coast experiences. The prefixes to the attacks were good, however, the Vegas tests and the lack of viable concepts/principles in 5.0 id staggering in that no matter who Mr. Parker sent Jeff to to learn kenpo from, Jeff has failed to evolve kenpo (his words in Costa Mesa, CA). Jeff devolved kenpo to a movie fu system. Be nice and regurgitate false histories to stay in good graces with anyone you think you need to. You don't know me, nor will you likely ever. Me I'm a traditionalist kenpo dude that witnessed things that many have glossed over. Peace
@@hankypankywhoopdydoo284 Which "false facts" have I regurgitated? At no point did I say 5.0 was superior, I just said Jeff Speakman took it into a different direction. You claimed that 5.0 was not a new version of Kenpo but just a movie fu version with prefixes? This is not accurate. I ask you, what is your personal experience with training in 5.0? I have done both 5.0 and Traditional Parker Kenpo so I've seen the side by side differences personally, and there are many. Adding ground fighting into Kenpo is a MAJOR change, and it wasn't just a couple of moves but a whole different approach. I understand he's had some friction with other Kenposits...but that's common in the art today period. It seem many Senior instructors have many opinions over other Senior instructors. I'm not interested in conjecture or personal stories, I report based on my own experiences and what I've seen and felt myself. I have learned from his classes, I've been hit by Speakman, and I've see the different versions of the art. I'm not sure what principles you feel he's left out of Kenpo but when I learned it they sure were there. What is your personal training experience with Kenpo 5.0?
@@ArtofOneDojoRead carefully Dan, "Which "false facts" have I regurgitated? None that I know of. False histories are all over the place. "At no point did I say 5.0 was superior, I just said Jeff Speakman took it into a different direction. Jeff did and I witnessed it as he lay on top of Pribble for 5 minutes bagging on everyone in the studio. "You claimed that 5.0 was not a new version of Kenpo but just a movie fu version with prefixes?" Jeffy Fu was great when the Perfect Weapon came out. That didn't last long until he formulated heavily, cut techniques and oh my, those Vegas tests! Why are they moving through those sets at Ludacris speed? Why are they testing sets anyway? Jeff and his popularity raised all kenpo boats for two years. Then that faded and 5.0 splashed on to the scene, and sure enough, there were guys claiming that their 2.0, their 2.2 systems were suoerior because they cam first as a decimal system. Mockery is sarcasm. Two separate observations Dan: Prefixing the Catalyst was innovative, but, there are lots of techniques that taught catalysts as combinations. You just needed to stick around long enough to see it and understand that the entire system is a Formulation, which by your own history you clearly have not. Grab Pull and Grab Push, there are only 1 of each in EPAK. Do you practice them that way or are you ignoring how well both work on the ground? Jeffy Fu started out as Kenpo, but, he dropped the term kenpo and went with 5.0. He said this in Costa Mesa, as he was lying on Pribble, telling everyone that they were a museum of martial arts and not evolved like 5.0. Look who's doing Kenpo 4.6 out here in the west. "I ask you, what is your personal experience with training in 5.0?" Watching my students man handle their students in stand up and on the ground. Judge the instructor by how well their students are doing. A vast majority of transfer BB to Jeffy Fu have this clueless look on their face when their uke doesn't move their back leg within the sequential flow of the Response. That kick out of the rear leg has lost a lot of value because of the training method and the target involved. Moving through the opponent and off weighting their front foot is how the technique works. Buuut, the uke always moves their back leg away from the kick. To avoid destruction of the limb in practice. This is not how Kenpo works. Train the way you fight, Fight the way you train. "Adding ground fighting into Kenpo is a MAJOR change, and it wasn't just a couple of moves but a whole different approach." Ahh, false histories again. Kodokan JuJitsu, ever heard of that? There has been and always will be ground fighting in EPAK Dan. The only difference between Vertical and horizontal fighting is how small a window we have when manipulating our Dimensions and Cancelling their Dimensions. There is nothing new under the sun... "What is your personal training experience with Kenpo 5.0?" Why would I do that Dan? With all the friction between Jeff's folks and Orange County Kenpo back in the day it was important to keeo a level head and realize that each person who succumb to Jeff's 5.0 would eventually leave it. History is not fickle Dan, but it important to filter out the ones that contradict what you eyes and ears haver witnessed. Have you ever been hit by an Aloha or a Kumu of the Lua systems? Clark Cole Professor of Method Professor of Post Modern Kenpo Professor of Christian Kenpo None of which are off shoots of EPAK but are built around the continued exploration of what was put together by SGM Parker and those that he taught.
@@hankypankywhoopdydoo284 You first said "Dan doesn't speak for Kenpo", which insinuates you feel I said something that was incorrect. That long rant you just posted was basically your opinion of Jeff Speakman and whatever impression you have of 5.0...and not in any way related to answers I gave in this interview. I have been in Kenpo for 28 years, and I fully understand that it is a system of formualtion. I said as much in this video. But you think because I spent some time in a Speakman school that it automatically negates everything you think I know about Kenpo? Why would I ask if you trained in 5.0? Because normally in order to give an accurate criticism of something it is usually expected to have experience in it. You are going off the impression of personal issues with Jeff Speakman and others, and whatever impression you've seen at surface level. If you spent any time in 5.0 you'd see that the same formulation is still there. "Ground fighting has always been in Kenpo". No. No it has not. EPAK has elements of Judo and takedowns, but there is not a system of groundfighting at all. Every single Kenposist I know who has said that, without any prior independant groundfighting training has been taking down easily by BJJ. Kenpo is a standing fighting system, it was never designed for the ground. Could moves and concepts work on the ground? Sure, but they aren't designed that way. 5.0 didn't reinvent groundfighting, I never said it did. It blended BJJ INTO the curriculum and a lot of the new techniques are forumalted around that. Jeff Speakman dropped the name Kenpo term? Not sure where you got that but it has always had Kenpo in the name and still does. I fully respect your opinion and your personal experience, but your entire post is based on your personal opinion and doesn't actually address anything I said at all in this interview. Kenpo 5.0 is a significantly different variation of EPAK. It wasn't just a nip/tuck here and there, it's a pretty hefy overhall. You would know that if you understood it better. So I ask again...how do you feel I misrepresented Kenpo in this video?
This is how martial artists should treat eachother, respect, kindness and love.
Trying to understand other arts, learning.
Not insulting eachother and acting superior. Social media is a cancer on the martial arts community.
💯 agree
I'm a fan of both of these channels, and a shotokan practitioner myself. This was a very Interesting set of questions, I happen to have some of Ed parkers books too, they are quite informative.
Holy shit I'm excited for this.
Now that I've watched this. I'm an American Kenpo practitioner myself, I do love the system. I can say a flaw of it is sometimes you can get too into the "theory" of the combat side and forget how fast paced things really are, which is why it's important if your school spars regularly and OFTEN.
Exactly! That's what I meant by sometimes it can be perceived as too much academic information because sometimes people get stuck on it. I agree, the academics mean nothing if you can't apply them in application, and the best application other than a real dangerous situation...is sparring.
I think it was Gichin Funakoshi who said kata should be practiced and understood to the point where you can use the kata on the spot, those niche moves you at times see in kata and just think they'd never work do actually work when you know when to use them and when you use them properly. a Shotokan practicioner myself but yeah.
@@david.g.3048 I used a 3 step motion from one of our Kenpo forms to deflect a punch. Saw it coming out of the corner of my eye and I just instinctively did it. Surprised the hell out of the other person and me as well because it just...happened...I didn't even have to think about it.
@@ArtofOneDojo I personally enjoy the academic side. Especially throughout quarantine but when I got back into sparring I was very rusty.
@@Kamingo170 Same!, I "know" a lot of throws but in actual sparring I could just pull off a few.
Great interview Yusuke san. I originally started with American Kempo back in 1978. I ironically changed to traditional Japanese karate 8 years later and I'm still actively training today.
Really appreciate the love you've been giving my art. Love both these channels and was so happy you did a Collab.
What a great day! My 2 favorite UA-cam instructors on one show. I am in my 43rd year of training in the arts (Kenpo, Tang Soo Do and Silat)and I learn from you 2 youngsters on a regular basis. Thank you both.
Great to see these two channels link up 👍
By the way, it is your curiosity and willingness to explore that makes you very exceptional. Your path will lead to great mastery.
How nice to see you Sensei Yusuke, at last collaborate with Sensei Dan from American Kenpo Karate. Both of your UA-cam channels, both explore different styles of martial arts, compare and examine how they are similar or different to both of your respective Karate styles. I saw yesterday your video collaboration, on Sensei Dan's UA-cam channel: 'The Art of One Dojo'. From what I can see in this video, it seems generally in Japan the Japanese people want to preserve the already established traditional martial arts styles, while in America they want to continue the evolving of those traditional martial arts styles. Excellent work as always, looking forward to your possible further collaborations in the future, with Sensei Dan, Osu!🇲🇽🇦🇺🥋
You are a very good interviewer.
There is a bottom part of Kenpo that Mr Parker taught, or stressed to extreme to some.. Almost nobody does it. It involves the contact and control manipulation and joint locking and destruction of the legs in the base techs. Done simultaneously or by themselves. Like doing techniques leg striking only with more Judo type hand applications. It is mentioned but not used regularly and destructively. Salute.
I do highlight a little bit of this in our next episode together, I talk about how in our close range self defense we're doing just as much destruction with our knees and legs as we are with our arms. I'm not sure Sensei will use the clip but I demonstrated it with Thundering Hammers, how the lower legs are mirroring the action of the upper body in terms of damage and destruction.
My sensei had GoDan in American Kenpo and also a Shotokan Black Belt. It is possible his Black Belt in Shotokan was Actaully under Bill Ryusaki who studied Shotokan, Judo, and KajuKenbo and founded the Ryu Dojo Hawaiian Kenpo. (I don't believe it is affialiated with The Pit Hawaiian Kenpo MMA).
The style we practiced used English names for most Kihon and we also learned simplified Kenpo Techniques as well as some Judo and Aikido Techniques.
Bill was in tv show “court of eddys father” episode being the uke for ed parker great era of AK
Cool work sir 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks!
@@KarateDojowaKu you are welcome
I study kajukenbo from Hawaii, William KS Chow helped design the art.
Adriano Emperado was the Founder of the style and he is William Chow's student.
Kajukenbo is also Chuck Liddell's favorite style
@@artisticsolarninja negative. The history says that it was 6 masters that came together to make Kajukenbo. And so far? Most masters agree it was sijo that made it happen (with a team work situation)
@@artisticsolarninja if u have more information please share
@@artisticsolarninja as I understand, the masters got together and created the art together. Korean karate, judo, jujitsu, kenpo, and American/Chinese boxing ( kajukenbo). Basically? All was a student of the other, but a master of their art. Am I wrong?
So happy to see 2 of my favorite MArts UA-camrs together ! Even though I train in Taijutsu (or ninjutsu , not what it really is but that's what people generally call it;)) , I have a backround in Shotokan, and one of my teachers also does MMA and another is a 3rd dan in judo, so we get a lot of "modern" training as well, and I also do Iaido (here's looking at you Yasuke! Are you ever going to do more Iaido do you think??) . I know what a random viewer trains in isn't really a big deal, but only mention so both of you know who your audience is, and how you still apeal to Martial Artists as a whole! Neither art I train in is a big topic that you guys cover, but arts are so beatiful together if that makes any sense? That's why I love your respective channels you guys both really do some awesome exploration and have refreshing open minds.
Bujinkan?
I train in different styles. But subbed to many martial arts channels. Its interesting to see the difference between all of them
@@NovaScotiaNewfie Not Bujinkan affiliated. Same martial arts, just ...different approach. Ever heard of Akban? Similar idea
@@adam5words688 ya I'm subscribed to their YT channel.
The question was asked whether Kenpo considers itself "karate" or is it just kenpo. When I was young I used to watch kung fu theater! I wanted to learn kung fu. I looked up kung fu schools in my area. I ran across a Kenpo Karate school and it was advertised as "Kenpo Karate: Chinese Kung Fu." I signed up for it and loved it. Unfortunately, I couldn't afford to stay in the classes.
This is to Mr. Dan and the Japanese Sensei. I want to applaud the both of you for creating this video for all of us fellow martial arts practitioners. As I’ve stated before my school here in Toronto Canada does Shotokan kata up to 1st Dan and then we introduce Goju Ryu kata into our system as we believe it compliments the body and allows you to mix the hard with the soft. As the both of you know, Shotokan is worlds away from being classified as a soft style and is very tough and hard on the body which is why our school has implemented the Goju Ryu. We. Are rooted in tradition but have modernized our curriculum to include some kickboxing and Muay Thai techniques, Jiujitsu, Kobudo which is a requirement to pass your black belt and beyond, as well as some ground work when time permits. Having said that, our system was named Sheishinkan karate which was developed by our school founder.
It’s a blessing to see the Japanese Sensei on this channel explore many martial arts and not to mention very refreshing. I personally have a friend at my club who came from an American Kenpo Karate school who recently taught me “Five Swords.” Which I have been repeatedly practicing. Thanks so much to the both of you and please keep up the great work 👍🏾
Many are not aware of the Kenpo/Shito-Ryu connections in Japan. The founder of ShitoRyu Kenwa Mabuni had called his art Nippon Kenpo Jiu-Jitsu. [other words were in the name] Then Mabuni changed the name of his Art to Shito-Ryu. Much later in the US, Ed Parkers early student, teaching for him, Dan Inosanto (went with Bruce Lee) had trained in Shito-Ryu also. Many common aspects became apparent over time.
This is Great. Thank you for sharing!!!
You quality is diversifying. Great to see. Been subbed to Art of One Dojo for 3 years. Subbed here as well.
Mad respect Sensei. Osu.
I love what Sensei Yusuke is doing with his channel, so many good topics and he gets them out FAST!
@@ArtofOneDojo i agree. He has.done quite a bit and grown in the 4 months or so i subbed
Your content is diverse as well Master Dan. Have you or would you do a collaboration with Enter the Dojo Show?
@@iowa_lot_to_travel9471 Don't tease me now lol. The real question is...would HE do a collaboration with ME lol.
@@ArtofOneDojo 😄😄😄
Im sure it just a short matter of time
Great exchange here! I really liked how Sensei Dan stated Kempo had it's roots in Shotokan, but had mixes from other places and experiences, like Ed Parker's street fights. Hearing about this contrast, of how Kempo always seeking to evolve while Shotokan Karate in Japan finds beauty in preservation, that was pretty deep. Both are valid. Anyway, hope to see more collaboration between these two channels in the future.
I hope there is a part two to this!
This was a very interesting interview, thanks! 😌
Professor Chow was a Shotkan practitioner, boxer, and I believe judo/jujitsu taught to black belts after regular classes. He brought his students to Hotel st, to practice against drunk US servicemen. Kung fu in Hawaii was restricted to Chinese. Professor Chow was Korean/Hawaiian. Mitose was friends with several famous Okinawans, while in Japan. I had a pamphlet called Kung Fu, written by Parker, the illustrations were karate, but I believe, without the gi. Kenpo embraced karate, when karate movies were popular, then kung fu, when Bruce Lee's movies became popular. Although Emperado had kung fu in his mix, he emphasized it more when he moved to San Francisco. When you mix styles, you continue mixing, it's in your psyche, to continue adding.
From dabbling in Japanese JiuJutsu to Villari's Kempo to Nick Cerio's Kenpo to Shotokan to Japanese Jujitsu to TKD to Okinawan Seidokan karate. That's the skeleton of my 45 years.
Karate history in Okinawa was much more like the US in combining, altering, blending, and evolving.
Great video. Your martial art journey is coming along great. Your openness to other martial art will be great asset to you in the future.
Thanks so much Duong
For a time, Tracy's kenpo was the largest martial arts organization in the US and Canada with over 200 schools. This was in the 1970s. They had hired the man who did Arthur Murray's Dance studios and used that as a business model. They basically invented the best business model ever in the martial arts to this day.
The Tracy’s claimed lots of things They didn’t create the dance studio model they basically left Ed Parker broke off, changed the names of the techniques. Abandon the principles Ed Parker was developing, and certainly didn’t hire a man from Arthur Murray. They may claim that but EP used that template as business structure before Tracys and to augment further one of EP black belts was AE VEA who owned/operated the first Fred Astaire dance studio franchise east of the Mississippi 1961 in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania who studied under Ed Parker who was huge leap of expansion of IKKA. Mr veas experience of operating a dance studio was valuable info for EP to incorporated curriculum to kenpo “chart” 32 system. Mr Vea was the first in the Midwest to expand the IKKA franchise in 1969/70 was VP of East Coast of IKKA -Huk planas was brown belt newly promoted 1st/Shodan then was part of documenting the curriculum with Mr Vea
@@tsan3796 I realize there are a lot of different opinions of those early kenpo days. I have never been part of that political stuff. For me, going to that place in Indianapolis with the Tracy's Karate sign changed my martial arts voyage for the better. Their head instructor was from San Jose and had trained under Bob Babich whose Kang Duk Won karate and Kyokushin school turned out some of the best fighters in Northern California. So that's what I learned.
Great video I do have a 1st degree black belt in both styles. I originally started to study Washin Ryu Karate under Master Hidy Ochiai. I moved a round a lot and eventually settled down. I’ve been a martial arts practitioner for 26 years. I’ve studied numerous other styles in my training and I believe Kenpo compliments Shotokan very well.
Years back an Ed Parker American Kenpo group in Northern Calif. had a Sensei who was saying, “If you want to learn the ABCs of Karate, take Shotokan. If you want to learn the rest of the alphabet, take Kenpo!” A couple of friends of mine were living near there and thought that attitude was strange as Mr. Parker and Mr. Ohshima (our Shihan) were friends, so they paid that Kenpo group a visit. My friends asked to spar with the Sensei, but he said they had to fight his senior student first. Kenny fought the student, foot swept him and dropped him. Then the Sensei fought Kenny and also was foot swept and dropped. My friend Tom never got to fight. LOL
Alrighty then! Jesse and Yusuke down, now Yusuke and Dan. Perfect! I like to see the share of view points between martial marts in different countries
Talking to Sensei Yusuke was a great experience! He's doing great things with his channel :)
@@ArtofOneDojo I follow Yusuke and enjoy his videos, even loved his videos when he traveled to Okinawa and practiced different forms of traditional karate. It’s so good
Thanks so much!!
You should do a video with Jesse Encamp, The Karate Nerd.
Love both channels. Would love the chance to learn from both of you
This was great. My Kenpo Instructor still taught the sparring techniques B1A, KB1A, etc... when I was taught from 2000-2005. He retired last year and am not sure if he continued teaching those techniques or not. I think that distinct style of Kenpo Dan has mentioned is probably more obscure now because a lot of those Sensei's who were taught by Ed Parker are now retiring. Kenpo does morph so much between schools and to keep up with the times, that it can be hard to identify or classify what the original art was. I would say the survival of a particular Kenpo style depends on if the best black belts decide to teach or not. I never quite earned a black belt or continued persistent study of the art but maintained an interest and practiced with other schools here and there. But I have a lot of muscle memory from those sparring drills and contact sparring from those 5 years. In a way I kinda feel bad for not being able to fully carry on the legacy of how Kenpo was in the 80s and 90s Era.
Agreed! There is definitely a generational loss but even a lot of the newer versions have a lot of great stuff to offer.
Very cool discussion gentlemen.
It is perhaps useful to mention that Japanese Karate (empty hand) comes from Ryukyuan Karate (Chinese hand) which comes from Southern Chinese Chuan Fa. In Hawaii, the first to introduce Kenpo Karate to the public there was Thomas Miyashiro who was joined by Mizuho Mutsu and Kamesuke Higashionna, students of Choki Motobu (in 1933). It was because of those sensei spreading the art to the public in Hawaii and the books and writings about it that they introduced that inspired James Mitose to start teaching Kenpo in Hawaii in 1942. The curriculum of which was the Naihanchi Kata (Choki Motobu's specialty) and Makiwara conditioning and techniques using the 6 foot staff (Bo). William Chow studied Chuan Fa in Maui, Hawaii with other Chinese Masters who belonged to the Tong there as did his father. Most of whom were Cantonese (Southern Chinese) before he got the job to protect Mitose and his "business" establishment. The founder of American Kenpo was initially exposed to a Kenpo that was a blend of Southern Chinese Martial Arts and Ryukyuan Kenpo, that Chow was calling Kenpo Karate initially (he used multiple names throughout his life). When the future founder of American Kenpo, SGM Ed Parker started teaching Kenpo Karate in California, Ming Lum who was friends with his father in Hawaii and who now was a well respected and connected man in California and a student of Lau Bun, a Choy Li Fut Master introduced him to all the top Chinese Martial Arts masters teaching in California and it was thanks to that introduction and his previous training under William Chow that they were willing to share so much more information and techniques with Mr. Parker. Thus the initial Kenpo Karate became "Chinese Kenpo" and the second book, Secrets of Chinese Karate was published. Eventually, Mr. Parker developed a way to teach in a manner tailored for the American mindset that also fit with the American way of life and using English language and relatable western analogies he conveyed elements that American students would have had a difficult time understanding without long and in-depth study of Southern Chinese Martial Arts, which is how we get to American Kenpo. Thus we have the Infinite Insights volumes 1-5 and eventually the Encyclopedia of Kenpo (published after his passing).
So you see Japanese Karate which was pioneered by Ryukyuan Karate sensei but adapted to the Japanese culture at that time in history comes from the same source (Kosanku - Sakugawa) as the martial arts that most predominantly influenced American Kenpo (Southern Chinese Chuan Fa) Especially Choy Li Fut, Hung Gar, Mok Gar, Bak Mei, Wing Chun and a few others (though we had Northern Chinese Martial Arts influence from Yang Family Tai Chi Chuan, Northern Shaolin and San Soo which is a blend of Northern and Southern arts. The genius of Mr. Parker was in taking the vast amount of information contained in all those arts and his boxing, Lua and judo backgrounds and organizing it into a progressive and systematic curriculum taught in English in a fashion suitable to the American way of life. (Yes I know I left out a bunch of details but this is a UA-cam comment).
Kenpo is a Concept Martial Art focuses on Hybrid just like MMA but with some few techniques, kata, combat, grappling and Pressure points
They are a lot of styles of Kenpo and there is a lot of them
The only styles of kenpo that i like is Kajukenbo, Shorinji Kempo and Traditional Okinawa Kenpo
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I do traditional Jujitsu and the concepts are, in a way, similar. It gets to the point where martial arts will start looking the same when fighting. There's a lot to experiment within my system, much like how Daniel discussed with his Kenpo. One of the major keypoints is I do a lot more grappling, where he would do more striking.
I would say they start looking the same from an outside perspective. If you were watching another Jujitsu practitioner then I am sure you'd see a lot more technical detail and signature moves than those who are not in the art. I agree completely that a person's background will affect their experimentation. It's a fascinating study in my opinion.
@@ArtofOneDojo Exactly. I started Kenpo around 1990 give or take after doing wrestling in High School. One of the other guys who started same time I did was a wrestler when he was younger (he had like 20 years on me in age) and we both could spot the wrestler trying to do karate. We were great on the holds and grabs section of class.
Great discussion, guys!
I started out in Shotokan at age 13. Years later I switched to Kenpo. I love it. The economy of motion, controlling height, width, depth principles are fantastic (as your guest explained.) I have found it good if you have to fight in close quarters (I was a bouncer at a bar and it came in handy.) After many years in Kenpo I became disillusioned with it. Way too many 10th dans, grandmasters, etc. After Ed Parker died Kenpo really lost its identity. It’s not a structured school but very fragmented. I recently went back to Shotokan and enjoy it. It has continuity and structure and a grand history. I love Kenpo but also enjoy training in Shotokan again.
This is a fantastic video. I am a student of Kenpo (with no other martial arts experience) and have always wanted to know differences between it and traditional systems.
You need to do a reaction to Kajukenbo, which includes Kenpo. The Fightquest tv episode on the Discovery Channel. It was a great depiction.
The version of kenpo I practice went the opposite way of Ed Parker. We picked up traditional Okinawan kata. Much of which resemble the arts based on Shuri Te. The Arviso's and Porchas families often went to kempo competitions with Ed Parker, and they are the ones that brought my style to Yuma Arizona. I had to trace our lineage, and it appears to go as such:
Mitose (mentions Motobu as a great kempoist)
Chow
Alo
Arviso
Porchas
Cano
Christensen (me)
And
Motobu
Hsiang
Trias
Alo
Arviso
Porchas
Cano
Christensen (me)
Kyokushin is also "Hybrid -like" Created by the Honorable Mas Oyama. May He Continue To Rest In Peace and Power
The Kempo federation in my country has all sorts of events:
- MMA with shorter rounds, only for adults
- Full-contact (like MMA, but only grappling on the ground)
- grappling
- point-fighting
- knockdown (it's like Kyokushin + grappling and body-punching on the ground)
I was lucky to be a direct personal student of Mr Parker for over 10 years until his passing. Much of the early sparring offensive techniques came from the World Heavyweight Karate and the Kickboxing Champion Joe Lewis. I was trained by him also. The shuffling front leg side-thrust kick followed by a turning back kick was a combo. Front leg round kicks set in to front hand punch. Direct front hand strikes to head with a reverse punch to body. Lots of ridgehand (reverse chop) combinations to the head. You mentioned a step-through lunge punch also. Timing for some punches like that is different. The hand moves before the body which acts like a whip and is recoiled. Others use the rear hand body rotation for power. Thanks!
"The shuffling front leg side-thrust kick followed by a turning back kick was a combo."
Kick Set 1. But there's nothing new under the sun.
@@hankypankywhoopdydoo284 kicking set can't move and knock you out. Do your sets. Lol
@@hankypankywhoopdydoo284 the way Kenpo teaches the shuffle for the kick is a joke too. Super telegraphed with minimum power.
I understand his point because I train in Tracy Kenpo Karate now and Aikido
The truth is in fighting you are your skill all arts basically are the same with the common goal of protecting and defending your Life and destroying your Target in a cool style efficient manner from always all sides there is no this way or that way take this and combine it with that then you can create something great the ultimate goal is to be an overall better human being be ready at all times and stay Sharp excellent material as always peace be well fight on
Love your videos i train karate and i will go again because my place was closed😃
I studied in Kenpo.
It had a lot of Chinese forms. We don't call our instructors Sensei. We call the males instructors Sifu, and female Simu.
@@K1-Glory American Kenpo isn't a "copy", it's a completely different system. It draws influence from other arts, but it is not approached or taught the same at all as more traditional Chinese Kempo is. It has been specifically molded for modern day self defense in America.
@@K1-Glory Oh of course, but American Kenpo has continued to evolve too. I'm not saying one system is better than the other, I'm just saying that American Kenpo is not a "copy" of Chinese Kenpo, it's just an entirely different system altogether.
@@K1-Glory Absolutely. This episode is just an intro, check back because Sensei Yusuke interviewed me for two more episodes about Kenpo and we get into more detail. I also have a "Origin of American Kenpo" on my channel that goes in depth too, I would recommend that if you're interested in more information on the art :)
@@K1-Glory Oh there are many different types of American Kenpo tournaments. Many of them are very similar to traditional Karate where it is pointed based...first fighter to 3 points wins. Unlike other Karate tournaments there usually isn't a difference in point from head shots to body shots, but any landed strike above the belt, on the torso, kidney, or sides and top of the head count as a single point.
There are also tournaments that are continuous and points are just added up at the end, or they fighters will go until one of them submits. Kenpo 5.0, which is an offshoot, has tournaments like that and the fights will go to the ground and they will grapple too.
If you want to learn more about how the art started and is structured, we have a video on that: ua-cam.com/video/fk_RkZortw8/v-deo.html
Great Interview, Jeff Speakman name came up, can you do a reaction video to his movie The Perfect Weapon, that was the first time American Kenpo and Kenpo Sticks was seen in an American main stream movie. Great Interview
This is awesome!!!!
As the invited said in the Begining Ed Parker¨s kenpo was more like a Japanese Karate, because he had learned James Mitose Japanese Kenpo in Hawai,see this old film: ua-cam.com/video/wfS7BA3XYDw/v-deo.html
But whe he had a Dojo in pasadena California, he hired an American-Chinese instructor whose name was Jimy Wing Woo who was a Kung Fu master, and it was when Ed Parker´s Kenpo changes in a combination of Japanese Kenpo and Chinese Kung Fu.
Ed Parker is the founder we follow with west wind karate in utah. I would agree with him there is a ton of overlaps. That being said I wouldn’t want to go up against a master of it. I’m a yellow belt… the masters of our school so scary… but awesome! We are doing a challenge this weekend I would look it up on Facebook.
Questions:
1 in japan, what is the general meaning of the word kenpo?
2 About What people over there associate the word the most?
3 Kenpo was known in mainland japan before karate?
Ed Parker took applied mathematics, physics, and geometry? And converted it into a language of combat..... American kenpo is base on straight lines and circles, the source of its effectiveness comes from body mechanics, footwork, positioning and leverage placement. American Kenpo is Ed Parkers personal expression of combat (no different than Bruce Lee creating Jkd), and made it adaptable for self defense and overall situations depending on space and environment. I never studied American Kenpo. But, l have a great respect for the art itself no matter what.
Question: How would Kūdo Daido Juku be if it had elements from traditional Shotokan? Also, what's your opinion on Kyukushin Karate?
( P.S Amazing episode, both of you are great and experienced senseis)
I feel like it’s hard to apply shotokan ideas to kudo because of the rule set. Shotokan is point based fighting throughout all the different organizations, but kudo is full contact and almost mma. I think some of the sweeps and throws used in WKF karate could be translated into kudo. Personally I think kyokushin is one of the strongest styles of karate.
I think the most applicable one would be distance control!
@@KarateDojowaKu I think they’d have a smaller arsenal if they adopted the stance need to have the same movement as shotokan.
This is the best crossover since The Avengers. :) LOL
I moved from Tae kwon do to American Kenpo under Master Manny Reyes Sr. because i could not get my black belt because of my age. I still practice today and am teaching my daughters (as best i can, teaching is totally different) but am looking for a like-minded school.
Sensei what is the background music it's so nice in your videos
Sounds a lot like American Kenpo and JKD are similar in that they both call for the style to evolve to fit into a modern time.
This man talking about techniques connecting reminds me of people describing mind maps.
Formal guest request. Please interview Shihan Patrick McCarthy. If you want to talk about organized and systematized Karate and Kata breakdown, he is your man. He is also a great Karate historian.
Daniel may be the real Daniel-san from Karate kid. Lol
Can you react to blood and bone it's shows how Michael jai white uses karate pls
I'm a fan of both channels as well and practice American Kenpo and Wing Chun.Sensei what do you think of Shorinji Ryu or Koshiki?Their full contact matches look brutal!!!
Have you watched Jet Li's recent Taiji Film GSD Gong Shou Dao. 功守道電影完整版 Jet Li, Tony Jaa, Donnie Yen in a TaiJi tournament with Jack Ma . Also had fighting input with sammo and yuen wo ping.
Not yet!
You will find it on Jet's UA-cam channel. It only lasts for about 15 mins or so and is kind of like a promotional video because JL is trying to bring gsd to the Olympics in the future.
There are many and more interesting styles with in Japan to cover, for example!!!!!
Kudo & Shidokan wich showcase the evolution of Martial arts a d Karate.
No Bullshido please
Kenpo, also spelled Kempo is the most widely taught martial art in the United States. There are many masters and many off shoots. Kajekembo is a child of Kenpo, among other arts such as Judo and Boxing. My master, who has since passed away, described the style this way. Imagine that a martial artist from China married a martial artist from Okinawa and then both taught their children?
That would describe Kenpo. Except that now, that child has married and had children from the Filipines and Brazil. The concept of Kenpo is to grow and adapt, so that it is a self defense system relative to the times.
The major shortcoming of Kenpo is that it is a short range art. Not saying that practitioners aren't capable of long range attacks, each person is different. What I am saying is that the basis of the art, occurs mostly within trapping range.
Joint attacks and manipulation are a large part of Kenpo, Chin-Na is a large part of Kenpo, Kali is also a large part of Kenpo.
It is still in evolution.
Thought it was Taekwondo or Japanese Karate.
But I've been seeing bjj and mma gyms popping up everywhere
@@luxurybuzz3681 There will always be trends in martial arts and sports style fighting too. The locks and holds you see in BJJ and such have always been part of martial arts. Remember that the original purpose of martial arts was to kill an enemy, not to take a belt. Adjustments have to be made for the purpose of sports and the survival of the participants.
Also, a school teaching martial arts doesn't like to see paying students sidelined with injuries. There's no profit in that.
My Kenpo master advised me that an effective technique could be formed from almost any contact sport. Simply by understanding what moves are considered illegal or forbidden. It is those moves that are capable of doing the greatest harm.
If I remember right, Jeff Speakman has black belts both in American Kenpo Karate and Karate.
Both Kenpo and Goju Ryu. Mr Speakman was originally a Goju Ryu student under Lou Angel before moving over to Kenpo
Is there a part 2 to this video?
Name is similar to a time stamp.
Is Kenpo Karate or American Kenpo a style of karate? This is a question that is at the heart of debate and discussion, and has been for decades. Dan is not wrong when he said the answer is both yes and no. To try to distill an explanation down as simple as possible, there is a lot of Okinawan karate at the heart of American Kenpo. However, Kenpo is the Japanese translation of the Chinese phrase “Chuan-Fa”. Chinese characters are almost identical to the Japanese kanji for Kenpo. Quite literally anyone familiar with both Chinese martial arts as well as the karate styles of Okinawa in Japan can look at Kenpo and see that it is a fusion that incorporates the physical movements as well as the principles, concepts and techniques of both KungFu systems and karaté systems. This fusion has grown and evolved on its own to the point where it feels as if it is its own complete and separate martial arts system which is why some will argue that Kempo Karate or American Kenpo Karate is Karate in name only but it’s technically not a karate style or a kung fu style while others will argue that it is both a karate style and a kung fu style. The simplest explanation from my perspective is that it is a fusion deeply rooted in Okinawan, Japanese and Chinese martial arts that has additional subtle influences from Polynesian martial arts as well as different martial arts systems from the Philippines as well.
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I would really like do start karate, i never did it, but i dont really know how to start It..
@Jay Ryan fun fact: the nearest school is really far from me, so its not that easy..however ty for the tip, i didnt think about It.
You should do a video reaction on Bujinkan ninjutsu
16:04 it honestly sounds a little bit like Judo but with strikes, as in, having a big ass repertoir of strikes but on an organised manner instead of just "just do thing"
It's definitely more strike heavy, with a focus on close range joint destruction and body control with an underlying element of Judo principles.
Granted it hasn't occurred to the extent it happens in the West, but I don't agree with Yusuke's point of Japanese "preserving" their arts - I feel a lot of that is a case of honouring their instructors and organizations by paying lip service to preserving the teachings. Setting Okinawa aside, if we look at mainland Japan, look at all the offshoots that came out of Shotokan. Look at how much Shotokan evolved. Look at all the innovations Gigo Funakoshi introduced into Shotokan to the point that Nakayama didn't recognize the art when returning from military service. All the Kyokushin offshoots, etc. The crucial difference vs the US is not being able to approach martial arts with a consumer mindset which allows you to mix and match and build as you see fit which meant Japanese arts had to evolve from within, rather that across, which is a slower process.
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There’s a guy called DK Yoo I would really like to see you do a segment on
do a colaboration next with kenfutv
Is Judo a good art for self defense
Appreciated Master. Thanks for such an interesting interview and your clever smart idea of We, a group of kenpo karate practitioners, are planning to visit Japan next spring. We would deeply appreciate to know if visiting and/or training in a Japanese dojo is a possibility that actually exists somewhere there in Tokyo. If possible. Can we get in contact?
sorry... clever smart idea of teaching us about some other kinds of martial arts. We are a group...*
I think kenpo Is popular in USA
To follow karate is to follow the path of a man osu 🥋
How to improve my fight in karate I'm a white belt can you help me please
Can you do a reaction on ip kan vs japanese general
If you're a fan of Kempo, then watch "The Perfect Weapon".
React to osu, osu 2 and osu 3 from vlad reimburg, it's choreographys of karate shotokan, they are real good
Isnt it sad that Taekwando is more popular than Karate? Even though it's basically Karate with modified kicks. And the irony of TKD being an Olympic sport far earlier than Karate despite the good press and cultural influences of Karate in the States
Dan, your responses like to put words into my mouth at various points.
Are you reading the histories I presented in an emotional state?
See that is how you insinuate the possible badnes of somebody. You know, "Hey, have stopped beating you dog?"
Niw I am sure that even if you are a cat person, you hold no animosity toward canines. Am I right?
Jeff stopped the ground pattern he was eorking with Pribble, look straight at Mr. Sepulveda and I and stopped the seminar to tell us that kenpo was anachronistic and 5.0 wss on the rise.
Does that clear it or do we gi around again?
You didn't reply to the thread, instead made a new comment? I'm honestly not even sure what you're arguing anymore, you're throwing around conjecture and irrelevant stories. Speakman trained under Parker, Speakman revamped the system with his 5.0 system. Not sure what you're debating that but it's clear it's not from a point of experience.
So it means you also trained with Manny Reyes Sr.
No I have not trained with Mr. Reyes. He is in Miami, about an hour south of me.
@@ArtofOneDojo I have Many Kenpo Friends Richard Noriega among others , I use to go years ago to his Panamerican Tournaments in Miami Beach Manny Reyes Open , I practice Kuk Sool with Gustavo Toledo in Homestead , But know many Kenpo Guys including Mr Taz
@@xtream5productions56 I have many friends here that have trained with or attended his tournaments. I have not met him personally. I'm closer with the Sean Kelley group, and several good friends in the area from various Kenpo schools.
@@ArtofOneDojo Amazing Sir Nice to Meet you
@@xtream5productions56 Same here!
Bro pls react to bruce lee jeet kune do
Can you tell your audience the truth about Taekwando? It's a direct copy of Karate (it's even called Korean Karate after Korea was annexed). Koreans adopted the Karate uniform Gi, Dan belt grading system, all the Katas and said Taekwando (Hapkido, Tangsoodo all the 'dos') is an ancient martial arts which preceded Karate. Koreans are known to copy and claim Chinese and Japanese cultures and martial arts is no different. They even claim Kendo as a Korean sword art (called Kumdo).
Sheesh to technical.
Why are you avoiding reacting to kudo karate
Why do you think he's avoiding? There are a LOT of arts out there. Let him explore.
@@danielsanz2061 and I respect that but this is like the 3rd ep on kenpo and but there are more unexplored Japanese arts.
@@brawlerboi_4468 That's because he's currently in a deep dive of Kenpo at the moment. He produces a lot of videos releasing like 2-5 a week. I understand wanting your art covered but give it time, all of these Martial Arts UA-cam channels put a lot of time into their work.
@@danielsanz2061 but that is what you don't get I've been asking for this for three months straight you don't need to convince me to stop. Because I've basically given up. I will go elsewhere.
@@brawlerboi_4468 Hi, I also replied to a similar comment above, but there really isn't fair to get upset over him not covering a video. As a content creator I get requests every day and we have to look at them all, balance them, research them, and plan out a production and release schedule. If you're sending him constant requests for Kudo, and Chris Wong is sending him constant requests for boxing...can you imagine how many requests he's getting a day from other people and for other arts? There are HUNDREDS of arts out there, and people ask me to cover theirs all the time. I would LOVE to, but in order to do it...we want to do it correctly. It's not a five minute process.
If you are only on this channel for Kudo...then maybe you should be watching more Kudo based videos. But if you want to appreciate a wide range of martial arts and experience Yusuke's journey as he explores other ideas...then this is a great channel.
There really isn't any reason to be upset, or rude, or demand content. I'm sure he'll produce it if/when he can but in the meantime it's worth appreciating what he DOES put out.
No mention of Paul mills. He contributed so much. Just another Jeff speakman fan boy.
How old are you 🤔
American Kenpo is just everywhere in every direction 🙄
Why A.K.K. "masters" r so poor physical condition. I see much more stuborn I belly carriers before nimble legs and arms trained practitioners, for a "martial art", supposedly, fast-acting when faced with the need to defend themselves. Also today AK.K. it was losing originality.
Now it resembles Kudo, and other martial arts that master techniques on the ground.
Here we go. Speakman was not a student of Ed Parker. Speakman did not make a new kenpo he prefixed the attack's and added that movie fu kick to the leg to widen the attackers base.
Dan doesn't speak for kenpo, it speaks for itself.
Jeff Speakman first trained in Goju Ryu under Lou Angel, who referred him to Ed Parker for Kenpo. He trained with Larry Tatum and then ultimately was a direct student of Mr. Parker. Both Mr. Speakman and Mr. Parker stated this.
Jeff Speakman did not make a "new" Kenpo, but he did a major revision. Far more than just a few prefix moves and leg kicks.
It retains Parker's principles but takes a much more modern approach. Speakman studied BJJ and then implemented a lot of it directly into the curriculum. There is a heavy emphasis on sparring, grappling, and hard contact application.
The techniques have been heavily revised and many new techniques added.
There is a huge difference between Kenpo 5.0 and traditional Ed Parker Kenpo.
I don't know your experience in the art, but I speak as someone who had trained in both Parker and Kenpo 5.0, in a school directly under Speakman's umbrella and I keep regular contact with those currently training in 5.0.
It continues to change and grow. Kenpo 5.0 today is very different from 5.0 fifteen years ago.
Jeff insulted every living senior kenpo bb living at Mr. White's studio saying that 5.0 was superior to the kenpo learned and taught for the 40 years thst came before his association eith Mr. Parker as the technical fight coordinator for the Perfect Weapon.
Dan, you east coast facts don't match up with the west coast experiences.
The prefixes to the attacks were good, however, the Vegas tests and the lack of viable concepts/principles in 5.0 id staggering in that no matter who Mr. Parker sent Jeff to to learn kenpo from, Jeff has failed to evolve kenpo (his words in Costa Mesa, CA). Jeff devolved kenpo to a movie fu system.
Be nice and regurgitate false histories to stay in good graces with anyone you think you need to. You don't know me, nor will you likely ever.
Me I'm a traditionalist kenpo dude that witnessed things that many have glossed over.
Peace
@@hankypankywhoopdydoo284 Which "false facts" have I regurgitated? At no point did I say 5.0 was superior, I just said Jeff Speakman took it into a different direction. You claimed that 5.0 was not a new version of Kenpo but just a movie fu version with prefixes? This is not accurate.
I ask you, what is your personal experience with training in 5.0?
I have done both 5.0 and Traditional Parker Kenpo so I've seen the side by side differences personally, and there are many.
Adding ground fighting into Kenpo is a MAJOR change, and it wasn't just a couple of moves but a whole different approach.
I understand he's had some friction with other Kenposits...but that's common in the art today period. It seem many Senior instructors have many opinions over other Senior instructors. I'm not interested in conjecture or personal stories, I report based on my own experiences and what I've seen and felt myself.
I have learned from his classes, I've been hit by Speakman, and I've see the different versions of the art. I'm not sure what principles you feel he's left out of Kenpo but when I learned it they sure were there.
What is your personal training experience with Kenpo 5.0?
@@ArtofOneDojoRead carefully Dan,
"Which "false facts" have I regurgitated?
None that I know of. False histories are all over the place.
"At no point did I say 5.0 was superior, I just said Jeff Speakman took it into a different direction.
Jeff did and I witnessed it as he lay on top of Pribble for 5 minutes bagging on everyone in the studio.
"You claimed that 5.0 was not a new version of Kenpo but just a movie fu version with prefixes?"
Jeffy Fu was great when the Perfect Weapon came out. That didn't last long until he formulated heavily, cut techniques and oh my, those Vegas tests! Why are they moving through those sets at Ludacris speed? Why are they testing sets anyway? Jeff and his popularity raised all kenpo boats for two years. Then that faded and 5.0 splashed on to the scene, and sure enough, there were guys claiming that their 2.0, their 2.2 systems were suoerior because they cam first as a decimal system. Mockery is sarcasm.
Two separate observations Dan:
Prefixing the Catalyst was innovative, but, there are lots of techniques that taught catalysts as combinations. You just needed to stick around long enough to see it and understand that the entire system is a Formulation, which by your own history you clearly have not.
Grab Pull and Grab Push, there are only 1 of each in EPAK. Do you practice them that way or are you ignoring how well both work on the ground?
Jeffy Fu started out as Kenpo, but, he dropped the term kenpo and went with 5.0. He said this in Costa Mesa, as he was lying on Pribble, telling everyone that they were a museum of martial arts and not evolved like 5.0. Look who's doing Kenpo 4.6 out here in the west.
"I ask you, what is your personal experience with training in 5.0?"
Watching my students man handle their students in stand up and on the ground. Judge the instructor by how well their students are doing. A vast majority of transfer BB to Jeffy Fu have this clueless look on their face when their uke doesn't move their back leg within the sequential flow of the Response. That kick out of the rear leg has lost a lot of value because of the training method and the target involved. Moving through the opponent and off weighting their front foot is how the technique works. Buuut, the uke always moves their back leg away from the kick. To avoid destruction of the limb in practice. This is not how Kenpo works. Train the way you fight, Fight the way you train.
"Adding ground fighting into Kenpo is a MAJOR change, and it wasn't just a couple of moves but a whole different approach."
Ahh, false histories again. Kodokan JuJitsu, ever heard of that? There has been and always will be ground fighting in EPAK Dan. The only difference between Vertical and horizontal fighting is how small a window we have when manipulating our Dimensions and Cancelling their Dimensions.
There is nothing new under the sun...
"What is your personal training experience with Kenpo 5.0?"
Why would I do that Dan? With all the friction between Jeff's folks and Orange County Kenpo back in the day it was important to keeo a level head and realize that each person who succumb to Jeff's 5.0 would eventually leave it. History is not fickle Dan, but it important to filter out the ones that contradict what you eyes and ears haver witnessed.
Have you ever been hit by an Aloha or a Kumu of the Lua systems?
Clark Cole
Professor of Method
Professor of Post Modern Kenpo
Professor of Christian Kenpo
None of which are off shoots of EPAK but are built around the continued exploration of what was put together by SGM Parker and those that he taught.
@@hankypankywhoopdydoo284 You first said "Dan doesn't speak for Kenpo", which insinuates you feel I said something that was incorrect. That long rant you just posted was basically your opinion of Jeff Speakman and whatever impression you have of 5.0...and not in any way related to answers I gave in this interview.
I have been in Kenpo for 28 years, and I fully understand that it is a system of formualtion. I said as much in this video. But you think because I spent some time in a Speakman school that it automatically negates everything you think I know about Kenpo?
Why would I ask if you trained in 5.0? Because normally in order to give an accurate criticism of something it is usually expected to have experience in it. You are going off the impression of personal issues with Jeff Speakman and others, and whatever impression you've seen at surface level. If you spent any time in 5.0 you'd see that the same formulation is still there.
"Ground fighting has always been in Kenpo". No. No it has not. EPAK has elements of Judo and takedowns, but there is not a system of groundfighting at all. Every single Kenposist I know who has said that, without any prior independant groundfighting training has been taking down easily by BJJ. Kenpo is a standing fighting system, it was never designed for the ground. Could moves and concepts work on the ground? Sure, but they aren't designed that way.
5.0 didn't reinvent groundfighting, I never said it did. It blended BJJ INTO the curriculum and a lot of the new techniques are forumalted around that.
Jeff Speakman dropped the name Kenpo term? Not sure where you got that but it has always had Kenpo in the name and still does.
I fully respect your opinion and your personal experience, but your entire post is based on your personal opinion and doesn't actually address anything I said at all in this interview. Kenpo 5.0 is a significantly different variation of EPAK. It wasn't just a nip/tuck here and there, it's a pretty hefy overhall. You would know that if you understood it better.
So I ask again...how do you feel I misrepresented Kenpo in this video?