Why Australia ditched France Submarine deal | Indo-Pacific Geopolitics
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- In this video we'll learn Why Australia cancelled the Submarine deal with France.
#geopolitics #france #australia
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1. Summary of the Why and When Australia France Submarine deal happened. @ 1:00
2. Why tension in Indo-Pacific region has risen in the last decade. @ 1:30
3. What is AUKUS pact and what are its objectives. @ 2:05
4. Why Australia is important for AUKUS, what is its role in Indo-Pacific region. @ 2:28
5. Why Australia as of now cannot build its own Nuclear industry, submarine, infrastructure etc. @ 3:25
6. Why Australia should have bought the French submarines. @ 4:44
7. Why Australia ditched France @ 5:03
8. Role of the United State's military Industrial complex. @ 6:05
9. What are U.S & U.K's reasons for giving Australia nuclear submarines. @ 6:32
10. Before giving nuclear submarines to Australia, U.S has to do this.. @ 7:31
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"USA is the only country who knows best to make profit out of any international happening."
Well America isn't the only one
@Doesn't Matter Don't need to look far. France and Algeria, Libya.
nah, this isn't the 1960s
@Doesn't Matter exactly…tbh no country is innocent..everyone is smart when it comes to making profits by playing dirty games
So true
That the world we live in, where Hypocrisy is not an accident it's a way of life. #USA - .Geopolitics
How is this topic Hypocrisy? how did this video become about USA?
@@upvotecomment2110 Usa is the master of hypocrisy
,,, because they use "AAA" battery made in China 😜❓❗😁🤣😂
drama queen alert.
They ditched them because Australia's rulers from Washington told them to.
Nope, we ditched them because of the lack of action by the French, no clear plans after 5 years, over budget and over priced. Before the signing of the French deal, they were considering nuclear submarines.
That's such an absurd thing to say
@@darhman5299 No doubt Sky News Australia told you that, flavoured by a bit of CNN.
@@darhman5299 Do you even know that it is the Australians that asked the French to switch their submarines from nuclear to diesel? Then complained that it was taking too long while Australians are novice about submarine tech and couldn't possibly build one alone if they wanted to.
Complaining about the slow pace and over budget of a project to finally sign a new deal for submarines that are not even close to be developed yet and whose prices are unknown seems quite ironic to me. If you add the fact that Australia will most likely not build them at home (as it was planned with the French) and become dependent on the US for their subs, as the US will not transfer their tech as the French agreed to, I call this decision incredibly stupid, to say the least. Pure incompetence. But it's always someone else's fault right?
@@darhman5299 no you ditched them because masters in USA told you to.
As an Australian I am going to guess, USA SAID SO< and our gov obey the usa
Well the deal Australia signed with France was 2016...5 years later when AUKUS was announced you still hadn't gotten a sub yet from them. Maybe by the time you get your first US sub, you would have still been waiting on France. French are a bit slow/lax on these projects, so US arm-twisting aside you might be better off.
I love Amit vids, but this is the second one he's made on this subject without anything really new here,. The fact the US won't share SSBN tech with India really irritates him.
@@tealc6218 rajpipla1
rajpipla1
il y a 5 heures
The first nuclear submarines will arrive in Australia after fifteen years
@@elmanoux Sacre bleu monsieur :D It takes 3 years and 2 months at current rates to build 8 subs in the US.
That's 2+ years less time than it took France to complete their Rafale delivery to India. :)~~~~
While the initial price tag is higher for the US subs you can bet the cost over runs will be much much less, and they will be more capable boats.
The only reason for the 10 years estimate or I'm assuming the 15 years as you're saying due to delays (i believe that's entire order not just the first one) is because Australia thinks they want to build them all themselves...
The Aussies will change their toon on that idea I think and let the US build some of those in the US.
@@TechnoViking__ read his first 3 word dummy
,,, because they use "AAA" battery made in China 😜❓❗😁🤣😂
As always majestic analyse! 👏👏👏
Its honor and plesure to watch you videos.
All your videos are informative and easy digest with a qualitative edge
Thank you & keep it up
Glad India kept the Rafale jets than going for anything else. France is more reliable on defense deals
Spot on as always.
Marvel. Thanks for sharing
Love the new intro sir!
Another theory posits that after France "won" with the ridiculous proposal to "simply" convert their nuclear sub design to diesel, all progress slowed to a snail's pace, which is not that unusual with defense contractors who think they now have a captive customer with zero options...
Indeed. And Australia elected not to cop that as neither it should have. Meanwhile, and more significantly, our long-term strategic environment had changed, necessitating a new approach.
100% the case is this instance. The French promised Australian input but basically shut them out and after nearly 6 years from 2016 Australia had nothing in production, not even a finalized design. So to me it made sense as China had changed its outlook during this time becoming confrontational with Australia. At the end of the day an Australian alliance with Britain and the US is a natural one and nothing new.
@@Melbournelost66 Or: perhaps China could build diesel electric subs for the RAN taking the now redundant Collins boats in part exchange. There’s gotta be a deal in there someplace for the AU Government if you were to scratch around for a week or so to find one
Possibly not though now you come to think about it.
But if it does become the next conflict zone (as it will, with China flexing it's muscles) Australia will need the nuclear subs and India might be greatful Just a thought.
@@tonyfairey7733 China is Australia's largest trading partner, It makes a lot of sense to protect Australian trade route with China from China. Brilliant isn't it?
France will come closer to IND. All thanks to AUKUS.
Word of advice, don't trust the French. The deal was over budget, overtime and poorly designed by the French. India bewarned!!
India also joined the Quad.
@@gvibration1 Quad isn't a defence alliance.
@@enforc3rr and India won't be having a defence alliance with France.
@@enforc3rr Quad is a massive geo-strategic win for India re China.
Almost no geo-strategic tie with France.
We really enjoy your videos Mr Sengupta
Your analysis is superb!
Thanx for video
Really informative!
Credible presentation...
Aukus
If France was in the deal that would be called Faukus….
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Not funny
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@@christophermichaelclarence6003 yes it is
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Thank you very much sir
Thank you 🙏 👌
Actually, "US nuclear technology" was in fact a joint effort between the US, the UK and Canada. All three were contributing members of the Manhattan Project, which was only founded after the UK & Canada had shared their nuclear research with the US to show them it was feasible and they were getting close.
This was done after WWII broke out, while the US was still neutral. To keep said research out of the hands of the Germans in case they invaded, and because they felt the infrastructure and pool of recruitable scientists would be improved, all work had been moved from the UK to Canada.
The UK and Canada shared their nuclear research with the US before the US shared anything back. To date, the US has shared nuclear tech with a number of NATO members, some of whom still have US nukes ready to launch should NATO decide it necessary, while others have gone in a different direction and agreed to not use or host nuclear weapons. Canada, where many of the earliest breakthroughs in "US nuclear tech" were made, was the first country to ever give up nuclear weapons. Many others have since done the same.
He specifically talked about nuclear propulsion technology. Read US-UK mutual defence treaty of 1958. The US supplied tech to UK for building compact nuclear reactors powerful enough to run a submarine. Ab initio, this wasn't a joint project like the Manhattan project. This tech as well as the Trident submarine launched missile was supplied by the US.
Yep. Good post to correct just one of the vid's multiple inaccuracies, though there are far too many to bother addressing them all.
@@JESTER-97 Nice wee litany of half truths and omissions. So by all means, as you seem to be under the impression that the treaty cited and indeed, other relevant associated agreements too, must've merely been acts of pitying generosity by the US, then do please just say so and I'll be delighted to acquaint you with the real history instead.
Mao Tse Dong killed between 30 and a hundred million of his own people. What's you point, sun shower?
After the Manhattan Project, the other countries involved recognised the US had hosted and paid for the development of the A-Bomb. The The British team was headed by Australian, Sir Mark Oliphant. The US was allowed to further develop more advanced technologies, without allied competition, owing to America’s sponsorship of the Manhattan Project.
With the growing power of the USSR, the US shared its then latest nuclear technologies with the UK in 1958. Owing to concerns about China’s hegemony into the Asia Pacific, Australia has been invited to receive advanced submarine and nuclear technologies. Sharing of R&D and defence technologies will go beyond submarines.
Australia will spend ten billion dollars building a service port for existing AUKUS submarines on its East Coast, pending the building of its own.
Tqsm
Thanks sir
Sir, which video editing app do u use?
Fuckin 5.5 billion dollar for one sub which is equal to 35k cr approx ....isn't it costly than an aircraft carrier ?
How else is the American military industrial complex supposed to profit.
Australia should rather buy Sweden submarine or if possible they should not from Russia that's what a geopolitical expert from australia told me
@@robobrain10000 Australia military complex? no no its US military complex!
Submarines have most complex technology ever ...even More complex than space crafts ....It's a diesel class submarine so shouldn't be this must costly...But when it comes to nuclear powered submarine it had a stealth power to remain inside water for 30 years (if they are having enough resources)
So accurate there👌👌👌
Your analysis are too good.
There is a difference between nuke powered subs and nuke armed subs. Pending on the buyer's specifications when the documents where sign on the dotted line.
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Excellent unbias reporting.
Amazing you know everything🤣🤣
Can you please make a video about economic terms..!
Wow first view
Thank you Amit for your brilliant explanation…it was so riveting…I could not stop till finish…I learned a lot …no other video dares to tackle such detail with such forthrightness. Good on you!@@!….but no one talks about where Japan stands in all this…I swear Japan has been able to recede into obscurity whilst many seem to be comparing and waiting for news on japan present status.
Nice summary. It was awkward that both the Australian government and the Biden administration (apparently) blind-sided the French on this deal. Both should have done better on this.
Both politically and economically, Australia had no choice but to buy 'turnkey' nuclear submarine power plants. The U.S. represents they will last 20+ years, perhaps the sub's entire life.
TWO QUESTIONS: 1) Did Australia ask France if their deal could be altered to provide nuclear submarines instead of Diesel?
2) What (if anything) precluded Australia from negotiating for nuclear subs from France?
The French subs require refuelling every seven years of so, which would then have to be done in France, the US/UK subs last 25 years.
@@bernadmanny Ahah! Very interesting! I had no idea that French subs require much more frequent refueling.
From what little I've seen on the subject, refueling takes a LOT of time, meaning that the sub is then out of commission. It is also a very expensive process to open up the sub, extract and replace components and then weld the sub back together. This increased maintenance might also render them more expensive over time.
100% correct, We would have seen a decade long taxpayer funded project, with out end. And if there is a threat from China they would have benefited from the lengthy french deal and our ambitions to make some thing here. If complex turn key products were made here for several decades it would look different. A submarine project, a nuclear project, a government run project + EU country in it, would end up nowhere. Its not the right time and project to learn on. Perhaps try to add value to rare earth first and sell that to the 'feel good' voters.
@@dominique4700 I will parse you reply, as it contains two unrelated comments
1) I have heard that Australia had at one point wanted the French subs to be nuclear. But I have yet to hear a reason WHY such a switch was made. Can you describe what happened?
2) As per your /no allies, only interests, does that also apply to our involvement in Vietnam after France had their ass handed to them in Dien Bien Phu? We lost 58,000+ troops there and several times that injured. Was it only France's 'interest'?
@Gregory Parrott I just read the bit you wrote about refueling, and it's actually not how it's done.
What you are referring to is the refueling of USN and Royal Navy nuclear submarines: the one using HEU (Highly enriched uranium). It has a specific lifetime (around 30 or 35 years) and is indeed welded in the submarines. French (and some other countries) use Low enriched uranium (which can't be used to create nuclear weaponry and thus isn't concerned by the Non-proliferation treaty) and is simply refuelled every 6 to 8 years (depending on the design of the reactor) and does not require to open the sub, even worse cut it (do you have any idea how complicated it is to weld those high pressure resistant structures ?)
But this requires the knowledge of nuclear power technology and a civilian industry, which doesn't exist in Australia.
Интересно, что номинально Австралия получает атомный подводный флот, а фактически даже знать не будет, какую задачу выполняют и где эти атомоходы вообще. Почему-то великодушные партнёры не предлагают Австралии построить хоть парочку симпатичных и полезных атомных станций
If France joined the UK, US, Alliance, it would be formally known as FUKUS
India will be glad that another country in the neighborhood will become an important and well-armed anti-China component, which should make the string of pearls look much less impressive than the necklace of diamonds... 😏
India can handle China on its own too. Cant say the same about Australia.
Also Australia is located much farther
We do Gilbert. More power to you Aussies.
Indian geopolitical policy is for India, not the US. India will not get embroiled in a US-China dispute. Since India remains a close friend of Russia, and Russia is now (thanks to US anti-Russian hysteria) a close ally of China, expect that Russia will intercede between India and China, and get both sides to compromise somewhat on their issues. India was not consulted, nor invited into the AUKUS, angering India against the US, and making the 'Quad' irrelevant. India is a major trading partner of China, and India will not sacrifice the well-being of its economy, just to get a pat on the head from the US. The latter is just what Australia is getting from the US, as they gain no economic benefit for jumping feet first into US geopolitical shenanigans.
True 👍
@Ayush🙂 tell me u r stupid without saying so
Sir, please upload a video about Agnipath...
Nobody is having a good time dealing with French defense companies. Take India for example. Rafale deal is dragging for almost a decade now. With only several Rafales delivered so far.
Oi oi France Delivered almost all fighter jets with in last 3 years. They are now getting massive orders from middle East countries
You're talking BS about the Rafale deal. India is satisfied and will most likely order more of them in the future. Don't hide your hatred of the French under false informations. And in case you didn't know, building a submarine takes a bit more time than building a fighter aircraft, especially when the customer asks you to switch the propulsion from nuclear to diesel.
It seems someone has hit a raw nerve perhaps?
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One more important point is that maintaining a credible watch over Indo-Pacific, USA needs more number of operators with Nuclear Submarines so as to contain China. It also propels the American War Industry move further forward at the same. Plenty of Uranium is available with Australia. America can bring down the operational cost of their own Nuclear Arsenal by outsourcing the job to Australia. One shot two birds.
Australian government has chosen to worsen nuclear risk in the region rather than to participate in smoothing the tensions.
Wah such money to hve good relation
So, Morrison smartly and quietly signed a nuclear powered submarine deal with the US and the UK without a public debate. I hope he was not surprised that the Australian people also decided smartly and quietly to kick him out of office without a debate. What goes around comes around i guess......lol.
Even a stopped watch is correct twice a day, he also called out China on COVID
you have to do more research mate the nuclear generator we are getting are a sealed unit that doesn't need refueling, and the French deal was already 5 years behind schedule
could've build themselves but instead bought there way to victory
Nobody can beat you Sengupta
Thank you so much, sir as always🙏
Anyway, could you please make a video on
*Public Distribution System* (PDS) and also what are the advantages and shortcomings etc? 🙏
Interesting. Glad to have Australia in partnership with UK and USA.
and get used by the american military complex intesrting?
@@TechnoViking__ nope
@@alexanderdanieljika4047 You say used ... we say partner.
@@alexanderdanieljika4047 Its only bad when the US "profits", but when it is france selling submarines to australia or russia selling jets to India, its just normal relations between countries.
We have always been allies with the US and UK,they are sharing nuclear technology with us that's all
Dear Sir,
Please make a video on Agniveer Yojana
THE REASON IS ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS WERE IN FRENCH.
I heard that Australia will be given the nuclear technology by UK and USA which Australia will build under UK and USA supervision
When someone says UK, USA and Australia I ask them " are this three things different".
Someone spent an unusually extensive vacation in Hawaii instead of returning to address the fight against raging fires in Australia..
How does he make such videos, what software , skills etc, I want make such videos and presentation. Thank you .
Same
I like to way you talk.
SIR please make a video on Agniveer scheme
Its on the Hindi channel.
@@amitsengupta01 okay sir ... I'm so glad that u reply on my comment
You're missing a fairly important point: French submarines are all nuclear by design, it was a requirement of Australia to have them converted to diesel, which involved long delays. From the Occam Razor rules, you would say there was heavy corruption from the US.
Also, have a look at a report from the Rand Corporation called "War in China", and youy'll get a better picture of what the USA is preparing. Unfortunately, it was supposed to bepreceded by the success of another report named "extending Russia", where Russia would have been put on its knees by the Ukraine war (as described in there), thus it's presupposed there is no alliance between Russia and China in the war between USA and China, started over Taiwan and a couple of other NED-funded "democratic independentist movements" (in other places, they're called terrorist organisations, like in Afghanistan, when they don't suit USA any longer).
Should India sign submarine deal with France ?
Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders is so trash that they have build 9 submarine and 2 transfer of tecnology but still they are not able make submarine and thing is no country is giving nuclear propulsion technology which is main one in building nuclear submarine even russia is not providing it
If this logic of security and getting around non-nuclear loopholes are expanded upon, then Solomon Islands is free to buy nuclear subs from China for balancing of external threats and freedom of navigation, etc? Or is double standard once again for one group and not for the another?
Australia doesn't have nuclear power because we've seen the movie "On the beach!"
For decades Australia was a very good friend of China and had extensive trade relations with China.
Be realistic. As both a developing country and an increasingly repressive dictatorship domestically, the China CCP regime has only relatively recently begun to exercise its transnational voice, historically speaking. Lacking experience or expertise on the global stage the China CCP's responses tend to be paranoid, histrionic and knee-jerk in foreign affairs. Its representative's use of international focused language tend to vascilate much more between a petulant, wounded tone and a complete lack of craft or diplomatic restraint. (Remember, in China there is no free speech, and Chinese people are increasingly repressed so it's representatives understand communication only as a one-way process which they censor through sophisticated AI systems. All internet media is essentially State-controlled and exists as an intranet not an internet, there. To the dictatorship violent speech, free speech bans and intimidation etc are their media morm and intentionally about control.
Australia simply needs to be pragmatic about policies and programs in its own best interests including our foreign alliances and agreements. China under the CCP will always be isolated and paranoid but hard headed and pragmatic in its national affairs. A certain amount of courage of conviction on our part is warranted and a little training of China CCP in regards to the way independence and free speech works in the West is their learning curve destiny.
Never forget that for the China CCP speaking in a supercillious manner, in parables and with a total agitprop focus is literally in the DNA of their corrupt survival as an unelected dictatorship.
But white favours white. It's just racism.
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That was a back-handed slap to Macron's face on the advice of US! As if we didn't have enough problem with our friends, we had to insult France anew! With such friends as US and GB, who needs France!
whichever way india ultimately chooses i consider it a win :D
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Scott morrson believed Vicky Xu can contain China not France submarines.
For a better overview of this ARKUS submarine story check out hypohystericalhistory channel on the subject. Other issues are also addressed.
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Indonesia might be keen to get the French subs but on loan probably.
ScoMo is smart guy.
Just imagine if Ozzy man could discuss this topic.. it would be so much fun! Destination F**ked
I believe that Australia will become a victim of proxy war?@Amit Sengupta what do you think?
why did the price double and was going to take 20 years longer ASK THAT ?
Cos Ausi not want nuke subs that France makes. Lol. Muppets.
May be the Australian Govt friend company didnt get contract of maintance as in Rafel deal with India
Thanks a billion Amit as always 😎👍
I can imagine the French saying & writing on the Diplomatic Forms involving their relation with Australia, "Je me souviens" 'Sleep with one eye open penal colony, now that I know that it is on your DNA that you cannot be trusted.
Good Luck America!' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Instead, of Australia cancelling the deal with France, instead Australia should have been saying, "Lest we forget that you booted us out of britain sending us in the dark serpent filled island away from out motherland and family".... but they still play politics of recognition, and cannot manage a head of state up this day. WOW!!!! Grow up politicians.
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No countries wants lose the biggest contract. I personally believe AUKUS deals was biggest scam even NZ is not happy with that
You forgot to mention that the contract was originally 50 billion Australian dollars but ballooned to 145 billion Australian dollars. On top of that there were many significant delays any many milestones in construction were missed and had to be pushed back years. The French contractors were considered lazy by their Australian counterparts who would often find them sitting around smoking, and that was if they even bothered showing up that day. The final nail in the coffin for the Australian/French submarine deal was that it was important that the subs be built locally. They were originally were supposed to be 90% made in Australia but Naval Group (the French company contracted) lowered that to 60% and was in the process of lowering that number even further.
What a bunch of ridiculous bullocks! I repeat absolutely ridiculous!
@@crpth1 Except the delays, cost overrun, and revision of how much of the vessel would be Australian made are all well documented by the Australian Government. The problems with French contractors was reported on by Australian media.
@@Vdubb I don't know the numbers and would like to believe you but Australian media ? The ones owned by Murdoch ? Are they credible ?
Five and a half billion per submarine for a diesel electric model, hell. France pays less than two billion dollars per sub for it's Barracuda nuclear model.
So many "selling points" about so many of these expensive weapons/ships/planes make absolutely no sense to me. Here, for example:
Why does a nuclear sub NEED to stay deeply submerged and unfuelled for so long? If it is just cruising, hidden in the depths, what actual secret surveillance can it do there anyway? If we can see them, they can see us.
In a naval war exercise some years ago, a "clunky old Australian sub" "killed" a late model US one. So much for super high tech.
If countries quarrel...its because of the US. When Australia cancelled their submarine order....it is because the US and UK promise them help to build their own. When France cancelled 2 LHDs ordered by Russia it was also because of the US.
Aust was not interested in investing submarines WITH A REVERSE GEAR .
Why?
I asked for Callado
The next development could be that NZ allows China to establish a naval base there.
And if China is building military base in Solomons, I’m curious if there are chances these Aussie nuclear submarines may intercept with the Chinese navy ships on their way to Solomon Islands 😅
In almost every consequences #US is involved...
Can't blame US, that country is an ultra superpower and Australia is US close ally.
Hlo sir...
Australia shd be realistic, the closest 'neighbors' are ASEAN, make friends with them...not with a PEN PAL NEIGHBORS far away!!!
Fondly enough..our far away pen pals speak the same lingo as australia..and we share close ideology and beleifs..let alone fought numerous wars together and watched one anothers back..not like the pack nations of asia who speak different gibble gabble..and are dubious to trust..let alone befriend..🇦🇺🇬🇧🇺🇸🇳🇿🇨🇦💪brothers in ARMS..👍
A nuclear submarine is a huge deal but not at the expense of 835 million.
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Australia upgraded their requirements and their partner ...some might say the old band are back together
I think it is almost correct but I also think that the main reason is that China has been a little les friendly lately. History tells Australia that it can no longer rely on European help. Being a basically western country in Asia Pacific leaves it as an outpost. There are a lot of Chinese in Australia and China could easily make a story that there is discrimination against Chinese and then take over Australia. Isn't that the story between Russia and Ukraine? The USA gives Australia some hope of staying as some kind of democracy.
China only needs a slow down in its own economy and the impact can be felt in Australia in economic terms as it is. Without intending to harm, Chinese would buy out Australian business and over time we end up like the Germans with Gasprom. A piece full looking situation, until we stop playing ball. Before we know it we work for a Chinees subsidy. Very piece full and silently we jus slip away
@@Hangover-ry9bo That's why Australia needs a proper balance in its relations with the blocks, and not joining one right away to preserve its margins regarding deals, security and foreign relations.
France is trying the same, to play between the blocks.
Australian and French interests are the same in the pacific region, it is a shame that Australian PM choose an alignment unprofitable for its country best interest and population long term security.
@Isang Katotohanan Dear, a conflict with a nuclear power like China would be the end of Australia.
Even a conventional one.
My position rely on the fact that Australia must keep its distances with any offensive alliance in order to avoid becoming a battleground.
That means, no alliance with India nor America. That means, a cooperative agreement with both in order to assure her some allies in the case she would be attacked. Allies with a navy that could be India, Japan, America, England or France.
Like Switzerland during ww2 who negotiated a secret defensive pact with France in the case Swiss were to be invaded.
Aligning yourself is the best way to rise tensions over the area, which France wants like you to desescalate.
But in the end, if you want to go bully the Chinese with your big bowls its up to you, we'll watch you from Caledonia and Vanuatu.
@@yc2673 Australia thinks its a World Power. 25mil people are hardly a World Power. Our politicians need to keep our country out of the clutches of the War Mongers else we will be gone.
It is dumb on the part of Australia to make an either/or decision to cancel France's deal on diesel submarines, It could have negotiated a modification of the agreement with France! Perhaps bean-counters influenced the decision to cancel the agreement with France!!!
And doing that would have blown the costs out further again, the best decision based on the best product is either the US or UK subs. The US and UK will provide the best support and training and training as well. It was not dumb on Australian part it is just a shame it took this long to get to this point.
It is surprising that a left of center govt in Australia just decided to compensate that kind of money to France without taking the Australian people in to confidence ie without any discussion in their parliament. After all it is tax payer's money.Had it been India,the govt dare not take people for granted.
Australians already knew that money was going to be paid and the Labor party was going to have to clean up the previous governments mess so they just wanted to whole fiasco to be finished and done with.
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Doling out money sharing govt to govt deal in public are two different things as If US president discuss every devision made in pentagon with congress and senate
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So leader of oppositions in Australia who is questioning this move is an Indian. I didn't know that.
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Yes same here.
Australia built the Collins Submarines so they do have experience. The French deal was about newer propulsion.
They may even make 2 next gen Collins.
The French love to sit on the fence to judge how it will benefit them.