something i would love for this and the arms build is an example rotation, or even like a slower pause-and-explain breakdown of an arena/bg you do, where you explain why you're pressing what button when. love these guides btw, Your content is the best warrior pvp stuff on youtube.
Great guide and thank you for creating this guide! I enjoy the cleave this build has. my previous build didn't have any cleave from whirlwind, but you have helped me implement it into my playstyle.
Someone please help with this. Where do you go for PvP talents and guides? Wow head is empty for PvP currently, ivy veins is out of date. And the discords don't have stuff for RBG's. Only 3s talents.
does the endurance training -10% duration on movement imparing effect work ? I mean we have the pvp trinket set that should cover all sorts of CC including that right ? If it's the case then the one from the trinkets would be the one working since it doesnt accept stack ? Anynone tested it ? I think blizz should maybe think about giving players a heads up like when hovering the coursor over a skill it should maybe detect we have the trinket set and display somewhere a info saying: "will not stack with pvp trinket set" or " will stack with pvp trinket set". And damn speaking of having a bit more points to spent thanks to annihilator build, it's shame blizz didn't also gave fury Dstance talented by default, imagine if they gave it to fury too this Dstance for free, then the extra point, i definitly would put it on Side-Arm which is a very powerful single target dps increase. Nonetheless thanks for the build Baj, guess i'll try with some friends to see if endurance training works, if it does it would be crazy fun to play it then plus it gives us more HP and since most of fury healing are HP% based it should help us a bit more to survival wise
I noticed that fast-footwork talent does not stuck with speed increase enchants, so it is worth it to take bitter immunity instead Check this out if i’m wrong
I have been comparing the single handed annilater build to the two handed build and I’m having surprising results where one handed always seems to at least tie or be better than the two handed build and had similar results with the onslaught build but a little more favoring the two handed build for onslaught. I’m also wondering if anyone with the four piece has tried the execute build where in that build I believe two handed is about 10-15% better but for those who are one handed annihilater build fans, the one handed build is king 👑 from my testing
Baj can you help me I been asking everywhere but no on really seems to be anymore sure then me. At the moment I have The walking mountain pants and chest next week i will be able to use the catalyst again and make a third walking mountain set piece and then the week after that I would use the catalyst and have four walking mountain set pieces. But next week I could equip this helmet I have that says Raid Finder ilvl 385 Walking Mountain Helmet piece and then that with the three walking mountain pvp pieces i'd have a full four set bonus. The issue is I don't know if it is worth taking off a pvp helmet to gain the benefit of the four set piece. Although the piece i'd probably take off at the moment is my helmet because it's a blue drakebreaker helmet with 408 ilvl in arenas but even then if I equip the raid finder helmet for the four set piece i'd be losing 23 ilvl.
Bajheera ya, I got one question, is it worth getting the tier set bonus for fury or is it better to stick to non tear gear? the bonus seems useless for fury if you play BT/Annihilator build? thanks.
Is frenzy even worth getting when we switch targets so much? I feel like any melee who is in any way at risk of getting kited should not have to have high ramp time
To be honest, I can't get behind Fury for PvP, despite wanting to. Battle Trance is still bugged to shit, and--at best--the spec cannot spike damage or have a huge cooldown burst like Arms, or even a better cycle. You can peel Fury at any point, and its damage flow entirely relies on its 1.5 minutes. If you cannot kill somebody on your second window in arena it's largely over unless they throw the match. The tier set is *better* for Annihilator, but that doesn't make it good. The 4-set is RNG, and trades sustain and CSHB potential for some more burst, which is somewhat nice on paper. The Crushing Blow build seemed like a light at the end of the tunnel, but again the bugs and lack of real spike damage hold it back. You have to sacrifice a lot of sustain, which is something that Fury relies heavily upon in the absence of Ignore Pain, and the tier set is further pushed out of usefulness. It has better damage in general, but the tier doesn't support it very much. Meanwhile, Arms benefits greatly from its tier bonuses, and CS/Warbreaker is up much more often than anything Fury has to offer for pressure. Sure, you can sit on a target forever, but you're just *there*... waiting for cooldowns to come back up. It just feels empty compared to what Arms can do now. It's o.k. if you want to play it, but if you're okay with Arms you should really just play that instead.
Thankyou Baj, really loving your channel and videos helping me rekindle my love for this game!! I have a question about Def Stance. I don’t take it because I don’t really know when to use it. I know that sounds really noobish. What situations am I switch stance? Sorry for basic Qs
I build the raging blow talent tree on my own about 3 weeks ago and used it in RBG. Even though i didnt have the right gear, this build pumps damage. It is really fun to play but you really have to have a good healer on your side
when you really think about it, especially in solo shuffle you need to be able to survive more. I don't think these buffs really do much other than the increased damage on Thunderous Roar . And honestly arms is just straight up better, I mean Fury is capping at 2600 rating in solo shuffle, while almost every other healing/dps spec is hitting 2900+ rating. that might just be because they are able to deal with Fury pressure and the defensives aren't as good as other classes. I'm not sure, I would like to hear your thoughts about it if possible
Look at his previous fury warrior video for the rotation at the end. If you want to play raging blow its the same but just press raging blow over bloodthirst when available
lazy? 1bottom build np i got you. /castsequence reset=target bloodthirst, rampage, bloodthirst, bloodthirst playing fury sitting on 50 dps and 80k bursts... fells bad.. cant really kill anything. i fell like my burst windows are wet noodles swinging.
Everyone talks about lack of utility on fury but it has no less utility than arms…fear, intervene, stun, commanding shout, aoe/single target slow…what does arms have that fury doesn’t as far as utility.
the one thing that amrs has which is far better than fury is Die By The Sword. It literally stops all melees burst against you since it's a 100% parry rate and reduces damage you take by 30% for the stuff that goes through the parry, also it will regenerate you HP if you take the talent Storm Wall which is definitly a must if you're facing melees, if not you get ignore pain instead. The skill alone makes arms extremely powerful, not mentionionning that every arms warrior in pvp take the talent Valor in Victory which makes Die by The Sword 1min 30 sec cooldown instead of 2 minutes basically lining with every major burst from the enemy always
something i would love for this and the arms build is an example rotation, or even like a slower pause-and-explain breakdown of an arena/bg you do, where you explain why you're pressing what button when. love these guides btw, Your content is the best warrior pvp stuff on youtube.
Thank you Baj! Appreciate you for listening to feedback!!
something i would love for this and the arms build is an example rotation, or even like a slower pause-and-explain breakdown of an arena/bg you do, where you explain why you're pressing what button when. love these guides btw, Your content is the best warrior pvp stuff on youtube.
Would love to see this aswell
Down load hekili it'll tell you what spells to use for max dmg
@Bajheera_WoW nice try guy!
@@Wolta Is that scamming bot ? lol
Stoked to see this. I've been playing around with a similar onslaught build and haven't seen many people talk about it
Thanks baj i was waiting for this vid so much!! 🎉🎉
Thanks baj! Due to some disability issues I have fury is my go to so I appreciate you covering this very much.
very nice that you showed us what gear you have so we can know what gear to buy and not waste resources. appreaciate it thanks
Great guide and thank you for creating this guide! I enjoy the cleave this build has. my previous build didn't have any cleave from whirlwind, but you have helped me implement it into my playstyle.
Someone please help with this. Where do you go for PvP talents and guides? Wow head is empty for PvP currently, ivy veins is out of date. And the discords don't have stuff for RBG's. Only 3s talents.
Damn I have been waiting for this. Nice!
The beast is back!!!! Huge inspiration to me man. Thank you!!!
I love the bleed build for BG's just pumping out massive damage, but I swap around some points so I can apply 5 rends with 1 thunderclap.
does the endurance training -10% duration on movement imparing effect work ? I mean we have the pvp trinket set that should cover all sorts of CC including that right ? If it's the case then the one from the trinkets would be the one working since it doesnt accept stack ? Anynone tested it ? I think blizz should maybe think about giving players a heads up like when hovering the coursor over a skill it should maybe detect we have the trinket set and display somewhere a info saying: "will not stack with pvp trinket set" or " will stack with pvp trinket set". And damn speaking of having a bit more points to spent thanks to annihilator build, it's shame blizz didn't also gave fury Dstance talented by default, imagine if they gave it to fury too this Dstance for free, then the extra point, i definitly would put it on Side-Arm which is a very powerful single target dps increase. Nonetheless thanks for the build Baj, guess i'll try with some friends to see if endurance training works, if it does it would be crazy fun to play it then plus it gives us more HP and since most of fury healing are HP% based it should help us a bit more to survival wise
Thank you, Brother!
Hope all is well with you and your family!
Also what are best weapon enchants for fury arena?
I noticed that fast-footwork talent does not stuck with speed increase enchants, so it is worth it to take bitter immunity instead
Check this out if i’m wrong
I have been comparing the single handed annilater build to the two handed build and I’m having surprising results where one handed always seems to at least tie or be better than the two handed build and had similar results with the onslaught build but a little more favoring the two handed build for onslaught. I’m also wondering if anyone with the four piece has tried the execute build where in that build I believe two handed is about 10-15% better but for those who are one handed annihilater build fans, the one handed build is king 👑 from my testing
what would you be giving up in the fury tree for smf?
Great video thanks would love a rotation breakdown of your arena game plays as fury
Baj can you help me I been asking everywhere but no on really seems to be anymore sure then me.
At the moment I have The walking mountain pants and chest next week i will be able to use the catalyst again and make a third walking mountain set piece and then the week after that I would use the catalyst and have four walking mountain set pieces.
But next week I could equip this helmet I have that says Raid Finder ilvl 385 Walking Mountain Helmet piece and then that with the three walking mountain pvp pieces i'd have a full four set bonus.
The issue is I don't know if it is worth taking off a pvp helmet to gain the benefit of the four set piece.
Although the piece i'd probably take off at the moment is my helmet because it's a blue drakebreaker helmet with 408 ilvl in arenas but even then if I equip the raid finder helmet for the four set piece i'd be losing 23 ilvl.
Ilvl is definitely more worth it. Only consider going for stats when the Ilvl difference is less than 8
Can someone write me a good opener for the Onslaught build? and the sustain rotation is spamming raging blow, BT and Onslaught on CD?
Bajheera ya, I got one question, is it worth getting the tier set bonus for fury or is it better to stick to non tear gear? the bonus seems useless for fury if you play BT/Annihilator build? thanks.
Baj what you think of running the tier set for PvP ? Seems like excute May chunk
word, those are my talent setup. The Raging onslaught build is more sustain damage and higher burst, but it sucks if you miss it.
Whats the stat prio and the breakpoints I'd want to reach with haste?
Is frenzy even worth getting when we switch targets so much? I feel like any melee who is in any way at risk of getting kited should not have to have high ramp time
To be honest, I can't get behind Fury for PvP, despite wanting to. Battle Trance is still bugged to shit, and--at best--the spec cannot spike damage or have a huge cooldown burst like Arms, or even a better cycle. You can peel Fury at any point, and its damage flow entirely relies on its 1.5 minutes. If you cannot kill somebody on your second window in arena it's largely over unless they throw the match. The tier set is *better* for Annihilator, but that doesn't make it good. The 4-set is RNG, and trades sustain and CSHB potential for some more burst, which is somewhat nice on paper.
The Crushing Blow build seemed like a light at the end of the tunnel, but again the bugs and lack of real spike damage hold it back. You have to sacrifice a lot of sustain, which is something that Fury relies heavily upon in the absence of Ignore Pain, and the tier set is further pushed out of usefulness. It has better damage in general, but the tier doesn't support it very much.
Meanwhile, Arms benefits greatly from its tier bonuses, and CS/Warbreaker is up much more often than anything Fury has to offer for pressure. Sure, you can sit on a target forever, but you're just *there*... waiting for cooldowns to come back up. It just feels empty compared to what Arms can do now. It's o.k. if you want to play it, but if you're okay with Arms you should really just play that instead.
What is the rotation for annihilator build
1. This okay for arena?
2. Is teir pieces (with 2 piece and 4 piece bonus) better than plain conquest?
Best bet is to just try and get tier pieces on your pvp row in the vault. You can also convert conquest gear into tier now and keep the pvp scaling
@@seegee9 but is the pvp teir set good for fury and the annihilation build? Or should i not bother
Thankyou Baj, really loving your channel and videos helping me rekindle my love for this game!!
I have a question about Def Stance. I don’t take it because I don’t really know when to use it. I know that sounds really noobish. What situations am I switch stance? Sorry for basic Qs
Bajheera can you try single minded fury in solo shuffle or 2s/3s?
Thanks for the update!
I build the raging blow talent tree on my own about 3 weeks ago and used it in RBG. Even though i didnt have the right gear, this build pumps damage. It is really fun to play but you really have to have a good healer on your side
SMF with onslaught feels pretty good.
why not try dual dagger SMF sidearm annihilator build? It does insane single target dmg
i guess for fun its ok, but idk tht would get better than TG
when you really think about it, especially in solo shuffle you need to be able to survive more. I don't think these buffs really do much other than the increased damage on Thunderous Roar . And honestly arms is just straight up better, I mean Fury is capping at 2600 rating in solo shuffle, while almost every other healing/dps spec is hitting 2900+ rating. that might just be because they are able to deal with Fury pressure and the defensives aren't as good as other classes. I'm not sure, I would like to hear your thoughts about it if possible
Fury reached 3k already.
@@haaieer lol on what server? not NA
compared to arms, which is better currently in solo shuffle?
Arms
New to fury warrior it would be really helpful if you showed a rotation per build besides that great video.
Look at his previous fury warrior video for the rotation at the end. If you want to play raging blow its the same but just press raging blow over bloodthirst when available
So what enchants would you suggest for fury warrior. I am enjoying fury way more than arms but unsure about weapon enchants
He said frozen devotion
Isn't spear better then dragonroar?
I wish you'd added on RBG's
Ty that helps a lot ☺️
Try Raging Blow build in PvP.
Why Malicia dont sell gear anymore only quest but noe gear selling someone now why???
Thank you!!
lazy? 1bottom build np i got you. /castsequence reset=target bloodthirst, rampage, bloodthirst, bloodthirst
playing fury sitting on 50 dps and 80k bursts... fells bad.. cant really kill anything. i fell like my burst windows are wet noodles swinging.
Ignore pain got me to Duelist instantly
I wish bitter immunity would remove bleeds.
Everyone talks about lack of utility on fury but it has no less utility than arms…fear, intervene, stun, commanding shout, aoe/single target slow…what does arms have that fury doesn’t as far as utility.
the one thing that amrs has which is far better than fury is Die By The Sword. It literally stops all melees burst against you since it's a 100% parry rate and reduces damage you take by 30% for the stuff that goes through the parry, also it will regenerate you HP if you take the talent Storm Wall which is definitly a must if you're facing melees, if not you get ignore pain instead. The skill alone makes arms extremely powerful, not mentionionning that every arms warrior in pvp take the talent Valor in Victory which makes Die by The Sword 1min 30 sec cooldown instead of 2 minutes basically lining with every major burst from the enemy always
Ms > slaughterhouse
Arms also has War Banner, and Sharpened Blade
Sharpen Blade is probably one of the best spells in the game
something i would love for this and the arms build is an example rotation, or even like a slower pause-and-explain breakdown of an arena/bg you do, where you explain why you're pressing what button when. love these guides btw, Your content is the best warrior pvp stuff on youtube.
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