Breaking The Toxic Shame-Limerence Cycle To Build True Intimacy

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2024
  • • Limerence: What Is It ...
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  • @juan_castellanos19
    @juan_castellanos19 4 місяці тому +362

    “So imagining this fantasy world where somebody who is perfect, who we believe or have convinced ourselves is flawless, finally loves us and sees us fully and completely and believes that we are good and worthwhile and ok means that we will never have to feel shame again.”
    There’s a window into my soul right there 👀

    • @pattracey105
      @pattracey105 4 місяці тому +13

      I can relate to your comment. I split up with the ‘love of my life 25 years ago. I thought I wasn’t good enough for her and my shame of not being worthwhile only made me put her on a pedestal and all memories of her and our time became perfect and I’d missed my chance at happiness. We got in touch five years ago and it was like ripping a scab of my heart. We clicked again immediately but she has three teen children and unhappily married. I’d never married. I bought into that fantasy world and limmerace straight away. Talking became too much, she has three teenage children and they rightly came first. I realise I idolised her and looked at it through rose tinted glasses.

    • @KillStealMusic
      @KillStealMusic 4 місяці тому +16

      @@pattracey105It’s creepy that limerence can last a lifetime, I‘m glad you were able to break the illusion in this one!

    • @KarebelleMissKarebear
      @KarebelleMissKarebear 4 місяці тому +3

      Damn perspective. Your wheelhouse is rolling right into my heart. I am so invested in what you have to say - thank you Heidi.

    • @pattracey105
      @pattracey105 3 місяці тому +2

      @@KillStealMusic 🤩 If only had learnt about limerence many years before! I’ve also worked out if you are unhappy in your present relationship my monkey brain can look back and see everything through rose tinted glasses! Which is me decieving myself as though it was good I emphasise that factor which is not really the true situation.

    • @user-eu7dp7wu9y
      @user-eu7dp7wu9y Місяць тому

      Ty7hhhj😊

  • @marcelvandermeulen2219
    @marcelvandermeulen2219 4 місяці тому +504

    We can only meet people as deeply as we have met ourselves…. Great phrase. Thank you for sharing.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 місяці тому +4

      oh 🤔 so I'm screwed forever. thanks

    • @kaleiyamato
      @kaleiyamato 4 місяці тому +6

      An invitation to meet yourself more deeply. I love that for you!

    • @jether_vargas
      @jether_vargas 4 місяці тому

      I wrote that quote down

    • @sharynhonor5084
      @sharynhonor5084 4 місяці тому

      Great comment

  • @ranc1977
    @ranc1977 3 місяці тому +140

    11:05 "You are not ever going to have a secure healthy relationship with someone who needs you to be perfect in order to love you. That is not love. That is transactional relating."
    This is the information I was seeking for so long and no self-help books nor CBT were able to explain tell inform me - that right there.

    • @mirelasemanjaku
      @mirelasemanjaku 2 місяці тому

      "someone who needs you to be perfect in order to love you" - my mother came to mind when I heard this fraze...🥲

  • @daylondealva4448
    @daylondealva4448 4 місяці тому +248

    SHE. DOES. NOT. MISS. 🙌
    Heidi! This was my relationship! Every time I tried to take off my mask of perfection and connect on a deeper more intimate level, my partner would look at me bewildered, maybe even disgusted. They would tell me, "I need to be stronger", I needed to be perfect. It was exhausting and I felt so disconnected from them, even at our most intimate. Like I never really knew them. It was really painful. Thank you as always for helping me come to a better understanding of myself and my relationship with others. You truly are the single greatest teacher in my healing journey. So much love!

    • @danifem
      @danifem 4 місяці тому +4

      Love your intro “welcome back, or welcome” you’re a got sent watched all you vids, especially those on attachment styles, unfortunately my partner of 10y refuses to talk relationship problems at all

    • @dulcecaramel972
      @dulcecaramel972 4 місяці тому +8

      Wow I feel very sorry for you, I hope you can be able to open up to someone who deserves it ❤

    • @terabaapaya556
      @terabaapaya556 4 місяці тому +2

      I m also suffering same way

    • @tifftreads
      @tifftreads 3 місяці тому +2

  • @Yintendo
    @Yintendo 4 місяці тому +130

    all this talk of intimacy and romance right in time for Valentine's Day!! 😘❤💗❤ thank you, Heidi. 🥰
    i have a drop dead gorgeous new date this weekend and she seems like a real one. 😍 going to prepare by binging some of Heidi's videos and work within to show up as my most authentic and confident self. 🙏🏼 ofc, should it go bad, toxic shame will likely lead me back here to delete/edit this comment so i can try to pretend it never happened. 😅😅😅
    may the insightful wits of Heidi be with me!! ✨🌹🤞🏼

    • @mela9447
      @mela9447 4 місяці тому +9

      Good luck and have great time on this date!😊

    • @MrLakastro
      @MrLakastro 4 місяці тому +9

      Rooting for you, my friend!

    • @LittleBarracuda
      @LittleBarracuda 4 місяці тому +21

      Happy for her that she gets to go on a date with someone who is consuming videos like these, someone who is willing to understand themselves and others. Good luck!

    • @pirateedreed
      @pirateedreed 3 місяці тому +5

      Good for you, hope you and your date have a good time.

    • @pattracey105
      @pattracey105 3 місяці тому +7

      Hope you enjoy your date and it goes well. I would just be yourself, flaws and all but show that you’re committed to life long learning and improvement.💚☘️👍

  • @havcola6983
    @havcola6983 4 місяці тому +135

    God, these videos are starting to feel more and more laser-targeted to me, specifically.
    They're absolute gold, and I wish I'd had these available to me years ago. Would have saved me a lot of pain, I think.

    • @People-Like-You
      @People-Like-You 4 місяці тому +10

      Same here, I'm finally beginning to understand 20+ years of limerence and shame

    • @havcola6983
      @havcola6983 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@People-Like-You Yeah. I'm at the stage where, in large part thanks to Heidi, I'm recognizing these behaviors when they occur, BUT only well enough that I'm able to explain them to people when they happen, not to stop myself from falling in. It's _wildly_ frustrating.
      Lost a close friend only two days ago as I tried to open up and admit to some shame-based limerent feelings towards her (Well, not her-her, but you know). Now I can catch myself when I draw the conclusion "Ah, see, they fled as soon as they saw the real you!", tell myself that it wouldn't have been an authentic relationship anyway. But also, like... that's a small comfort. Would have been nicer to not end up in limerence at all, and still have a friend.

    • @People-Like-You
      @People-Like-You 4 місяці тому +5

      I'm sorry to hear that, and I feel for you. Limerence = the worst kind of hell I've ever experienced. Hopefully never again

    • @VivianGray88
      @VivianGray88 3 місяці тому

      @@havcola6983There is a book that perfectly addresses this: Healing the Child Within by Charles Whitfield. Follow it up with John Bradshaw’s work on Shame

  • @nicsanchez2255
    @nicsanchez2255 4 місяці тому +61

    14:41 This part right here, I think is perpetuated a lot by fundamental Christianity. The idea that we as human beings are irreparably flawed by nature brings innate shame, but then they turn around and say the only solution to that is through a """relationship""" with a perfect being that will literally heal us from our flaws through """perfect love""". This is what was modeled to me growing up, where the only "romantic" love I was allowed to really experience was that which was brought to me through an entirely perfect ideal """relationship""" with a god that has no needs and fundamentally cannot be known.
    Then I wondered why I had so much trouble forming romantic relationships.
    Thank you for your work, it's truly been helpful!

    • @Mudpuppyjunior
      @Mudpuppyjunior 3 місяці тому +4

      The only problem with that theory is all of the best romantic relationships I know are among "fundamental" Christians, including the 23 years of almost perfect romance I experienced with my wife before she died too early of cancer.
      Humans are undeniably and obviously fundamentally flawed so it's of no use to deny it. Acknowledging the universality of our flaws is the best way to obviate shame since we're all in the same boat.
      It's going to be hard to heal if you can't identify what really messed you up and you lay your problems with other finite flawed beings off on an infinite being very unlike you.

    • @robbrewer2036
      @robbrewer2036 3 місяці тому +1

      Just lies for money describes religion.

    • @cloudofthought
      @cloudofthought 3 місяці тому +2

      The op can be true, and your experience can also be true. They are not incompatible. I know for me, a lot of my toxic shame came from the Christian teachings I received. Other people may have been taught differently, or (not) internalized them differently.

    • @Egalitarian917
      @Egalitarian917 3 місяці тому

      @@Mudpuppyjunior That isn't a problem. Just because this is a problem with modern American Christianity doesn't mean Christianity has to be that way, and it doesn't mean every Christian has that issue. Those ideas in fundamentalist Christianity are very toxic no matter if they stick or not.

    • @fl7210
      @fl7210 3 місяці тому

      @@Mudpuppyjuniorif flaws are universal by what metric are they held against? You’ll say the Logos. That same Logos advised that you deliberately position yourself at the seat of lowest standing at a party in order to avoid humiliation and bait out a sympathy reaction from the host. That is the essence of a covert contract. Question: does the host OWE it to the manipulator to move him to a higher place? No. So he would be warranted just leaving him to sit there. So what is that “humbling yourself” but a deliberate, covert means of attaining an outcome you aren’t asking for?
      Is that how a healthy relationship partner acts?
      You may see a world of irreparably flawed people, but that’s because you have poison in your eyes, and “because you claim you can see, your guilt remains.”

  • @autumnjmo
    @autumnjmo 4 місяці тому +77

    Heidi, as you do this series, could you also touch on the issue of repulsion with avoidant attachment styles? As an FA, I feel like I have two modes of connection: limerance or repulsion. I'm self-aware enough to realize the repulsion is usually with the healthiest, most suitable partners (as is irritation, anxiety, etc.). What's so confusing is the cultural narrative around these things. For example, some people in the coaching/pop-psych space will say, "healthy relationships will feel boring," "chemistry is dangerous," etc. That makes it so confusing to tell whether I'm deactivating or if I truly am with someone great who just isn't "my person." I have three friends that are all FA and we talk about this constantly. Would love to hear if you've ever been able to overcome "the ick" by mining shame. So grateful for your work. It's fascinating!

    • @aspegel5281
      @aspegel5281 4 місяці тому +11

      According to PDS, healthy relationships don't have to feel boring - that person isn't right for you. You may want to find someone who has the same novelty interests as you. The difference is that you'll fight less intensely with a secure partner because they'll know how to emotionally regulate through the arguments, and they're not easily triggered.

    • @srraaabdelrasoul5996
      @srraaabdelrasoul5996 4 місяці тому +7

      I think you should work on becoming more secure first then you can decide, as your judgement now isn't accurate because it's affected subconsciously by your FA attachment style.

    • @tiniliciouz
      @tiniliciouz 4 місяці тому +7

      I relate so much. I also get the ick with secure feeling people and self-sabotage my way out of there to get away. I've been working on myself for the past 3 years, so I don't go into relationships blindly and know I will get this specific feeling. I don't date at all. Really interesting to hear that others feel like that too

    • @autumnjmo
      @autumnjmo 4 місяці тому +4

      @@aspegel5281 this is great insight, however, I usually am completely compatible with the secure partners I've dated and I'm not actually much of a fighter. I think this goes along with the fact there are different types of FAs. I'm drawn to intensity--usually partners that are a little dangerous or avoidant and I fawn. I don't really fight. I think it's less of an interest compatibility issue and more of being very enticed by emotionally closed off people.

    • @autumnjmo
      @autumnjmo 4 місяці тому +1

      @@tiniliciouz YES and to be clear--I get it with everyone I date. Even people I experience limerance with (though it usually dissipates). I would say the first 1-6 weeks of dating for me is just my body constantly rejecting the other person and not seeing them accurately. It's maddening.

  • @user-kt5gd2yu7l
    @user-kt5gd2yu7l 4 місяці тому +20

    This is gold. I have realized I have no desire for relationships. And I know why and no one will ever beat the feeling of being alone. I'm awesome!

  • @bjensen3671
    @bjensen3671 3 місяці тому +20

    I really love how you explained we need to find someone who will be compassionate towards and help us work on our flaws. I never had that growing up and I’m very hard on myself. The problem is that I feel immense amounts of shame when ending relationships with people because of characteristics I find undesirable within them, like a lack of ambition/desire to better themselves, or that I don’t find them physically attractive, or they’re a bit whiny/selfish. I feel very bad when I feel I can’t accept these flaws and end the relationship, because I want someone who will accept my flaws. I can’t seem to tell when I’m being too picky or just normal.

  • @Fittiboy
    @Fittiboy 4 місяці тому +38

    The point you made about trying to fix your flaws without showing yourself compassion first really resonated with me. The way that leads to self-hatred. Thank you for that insight!
    I'm not diagnosed yet, but a likely case of AuDHD (Autism + ADHD), which makes regular tasks like vacuuming an extreme challenge for me. Whenever I managed to build enough motivation (usually through shame about the state of my apartment), I would finally do some cleaning. Of course now the shame about the state of my apartment is gone, so I no longer have the motivation to clean. So my apartment gets worse again, and I beat myself up. So now I'm slowly chipping away at the self-esteem that usually takes years for me to build in other ways.
    Showing myself compassion and understanding when I fail to keep my apartment clean has already helped me stop the self-perpetuating cycle of self-hatred, ever since I started learning about where my problems are coming from.

    • @kerrymillar1267
      @kerrymillar1267 4 місяці тому +9

      I feel your struggle with the cleaning, pretty certain I have undiagnosed ADHD too. It’s created a never ending shame cycle for me. Sending love, I know how awful this feels.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 3 місяці тому

      @@kerrymillar1267 Then enter the socially anxious - who are being told by CBT and self-help books that their anxiety is hallucination, that toxic people do not exist, and their task to beat social anxiety is to expose themselves to narcissistic abuse and stay inside it in order to be cured.
      While in the same time - the after-effect of narc abuse both in childhood and in adulthood - including mobbing at work - is explained away by CBT and self-help books - as personality flaw, deep personal defect in the brain - which can be only cured with tyranny of shoulds and creating list of fears that could be fought only through more and more of exposure to toxic ambient and toxic people - while brainwashing ourselves into belief that toxic people do not exist by being "strong" and "stoic" and disciplined.
      While in the same time CBT never mentioning the word complex trauma (because it is banned by DSM, nor explanation of what is narc abuse or toxic malignant shame or ACoA ACE - at all.

    • @frv6610
      @frv6610 3 місяці тому +2

      I don't clean either, i think i like it untidy

  • @erinlee5936
    @erinlee5936 4 місяці тому +40

    I felt toxic shame, but in a different way. I was staying in a toxic environment where I felt ashamed and worthless because I was unemployed, was financially unstable, and I didn't meet socio-economic standards. I was already struggling with mental health issues (depression, anxiety, stress, etc) and I was in a limerent relationship with my crush. It took physical health issues to force myself to walk away and break myself from the limerent state. Well, that, but also I reached the disillusionment stage, where I never reached the idealized state that never existed in the first place. I found myself in a situation where love turns to hate. I saw my "partner" as a rival, who only took and never gave back. It was an eye opening experience to learning how to love myself and take care of my needs.
    Thank you for this video, Heidi! We are all grateful for the work you do.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 3 місяці тому +6

      Yeah, socio-economic status is a taboo topic in USA and UK - since it opens the flood of censored issues and questions related to socialism and communism and Union and class divide. IT opens can of worms which threatens the already shaky stability of capitalist systems.

    • @danyerislopez7817
      @danyerislopez7817 3 місяці тому +6

      I felt this word for word! It’s such a feeling of disgust for that other person and myself, I just walked away because I was at an unhealthy place physically, mentally, emotionally. I’m just now doing the real work.

    • @ranc1977
      @ranc1977 3 місяці тому +5

      @@danyerislopez7817 Problem starts when people do not have money to walk away and leave. Then they are stuck in toxic ambient due to lack of finances and plentitude of Operant Conditioning such as social anxiety

  • @ItsCocoLorraine
    @ItsCocoLorraine 3 місяці тому +9

    I am allowing of myself to be SEEN FULLY!

  • @markgunderman1900
    @markgunderman1900 4 місяці тому +34

    Heidi, just discovered you a couple weeks ago. Nobody described in such detail all the trials I’ve had with relationships through my entire life……my early wound I never acknowledged has caused me a lifetime of struggles connecting deeply with anyone. Thank you. Now I go on the healing journey.

  • @Psychodynamics-With-Martin
    @Psychodynamics-With-Martin 4 місяці тому +57

    Awesome video as always!
    The energy of shame is the innocent desire for love and acceptance.
    Combine this with a person (often a neglectful or abusive one) that reminds us of our childhood wounding, and voilà,
    we are trapped in the limerence limbo where we desperately try to resolve this childhood wound with this neglectful other.
    Our unconscious is like, 'If only I can make them love me, I'll finally have proof I'm deserving of love,' but of course, it's only a fantasy and will never work like that.
    Painful stuff...

    • @vickeysteffin8061
      @vickeysteffin8061 3 місяці тому +5

      You described me to a T. I'm an older woman. Stayed away from relationships for several years because I knew I could not pick a healthy person. My relationships and marriage were a nightmare. I got myself sucked in with an old acquaintance online. we texted a lot, got together a few times, recently got together, and this guy went ballistic on me. After all these years of being alone, the Limerence started so strong, but I went along like we were just friends. Thought everything would be OK because we are older. Nope. I feel this does not go away on. it's on just because you think you're older and wiser, you still are drawn to the same type of person. I'm trying to find out more about this so I can be on the road to recovery

    • @Psychodynamics-With-Martin
      @Psychodynamics-With-Martin 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@vickeysteffin8061 Damn, that sounds like a terrible experience with this guy...
      Yeah, I've also come to understand that, unfortunately, when it comes to this stuff, 'time heals all wounds' does generally not apply :/

    • @vickeysteffin8061
      @vickeysteffin8061 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Psychodynamics-With-Martin Thank you

    • @CJ-sv9yt
      @CJ-sv9yt Місяць тому

      Well said..

  • @liteyear0
    @liteyear0 4 місяці тому +22

    The more I learn about toxic shame, the fearful avoidant attachment style and limerence, really puts a perspective on my life and what I’m up against. I’ve been avoiding relationships all together, all my 47yo life. I’m two years into therapy and I honestly don’t think I could have faced, felt or genuinely accepted my pain until now. Your attachment style videos (obviously) all include talk about love and as hard it is to admit, the truth is I don’t know what it is and how it feels.
    Thank you Heidi for your videos. You make a difference in my life.

    • @VivianGray88
      @VivianGray88 3 місяці тому +2

      May I recommend the works of John Bradshaw for understanding and healing shame. His book: Healing the Shame that Binds You may benefit you as profoundly as it did me. Another is Healing the Child Within by Charles Whitfield.

    • @liteyear0
      @liteyear0 3 місяці тому +1

      @@VivianGray88 thank you so much for those suggestions. I will definitely check them out ❤️

  • @josephmaina8706
    @josephmaina8706 4 місяці тому +5

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    🔄 Toxic *shame and limerence interact, leading to isolation and the creation of social masks to hide perceived flaws.*
    🎭 Living *behind a social mask creates loneliness and burnout, pushing individuals to retreat into fantasy connections.*
    💭 Fantasy *connections offer a temporary escape from underlying shame and low self-worth.*
    💔 Idealizing *romantic relationships as a cure for shame leads to unrealistic expectations and disappointment.*
    🚫 Seeking *a perfect partner to heal self-esteem is bound to fail as perfection doesn't exist, and healthy relationships require authenticity.*
    💡 Healing *self-esteem involves self-acceptance, compassion, and facing one's insecurities without dissociation.*
    💑 Developing *intimacy with oneself is crucial for choosing healthier partners and fostering genuine connections.*
    🔄 Embracing *vulnerability and self-compassion opens the door to healthy forms of love, as deep intimacy requires authenticity and self-awareness.*
    Made with HARPA AI

    • @josephmaina8706
      @josephmaina8706 4 місяці тому

      Thank you @HeidiPriebe for this information

  • @People-Like-You
    @People-Like-You 4 місяці тому +26

    Heidi strikes again. Excellent video, as always. I'm in the middle of burnout and a limerent episode, so quite timely. Interesting aspect you didn't touch upon - the role of dopamine and nervous system disregulation in burnout & limerence. Would be fantastic if you could cover the somatic & hormonal aspects of these states and how they affect attachment wounds & healing. Also, if anyone knows of an online coach that helps with these matters, I'd love to hear suggestions.

  • @user-td2zn9hs6d
    @user-td2zn9hs6d 4 місяці тому +8

    Feeling a little confused. I haven’t looked for that “perfect person” to help heal my toxic shame. I did find someone whom I let really see me, and I saw him. We both have toxic shame, and we thought we could heal together. But unfortunately, we didn’t have enough developed self regulation skills to be able to successfully coregulate and support each other, so there was a baseline of chaos. Neither of us really knew what secure attachment feels like… so when you say that, you probably need to find someone who understands and has compassion for your shameful parts, it seems they’re also needs to be a real baseline of individuation so that the relationship doesn’t become enmeshed in codependency. Thank you so much for these videos. Your work is helping a lot of people.

  • @ayakhoumssi9820
    @ayakhoumssi9820 4 місяці тому +30

    SHE’S BACK!!! ❤️so happy to have you again, thank you Heidi for your work. You’re incredible

  • @irynaguziy1202
    @irynaguziy1202 3 місяці тому +4

    "What are the things that I struggle with? And who can be compationate towards and going to accompany me on the journey if I potentially struggle with this on and off for the rest of my life?" - what a deep and beautiful, Self-accepting question, thank you🙏
    "All those parts that you believe are the testaments to your brokenness are just the testaments of co-regulation that you once did not have available to you"💛

  • @larrychoiceman
    @larrychoiceman 3 місяці тому +12

    One of my favorite things about your videos, Heidi, is the comments section. (Said no one ever) Because every video has basically three flavors. 1. This is directed at me so accurately. 2. Heidi's back/yay/another banger. 3. Simply "thank you". I mean, it is a LOVE fest up in here. It's so nice. And a testament to how important what you discuss, and how you present it, is. It's all *so* me, glad you're back, thank you. (check. check. check.)

  • @andyherod653
    @andyherod653 4 місяці тому +20

    You are my favorite UA-cam therapist. For sure. Just so genuine. And it’s so clear that you’ve done this work and are truly wanting to share it. Thank you!

  • @lovelace5286
    @lovelace5286 4 місяці тому +23

    Fun fact: Heidi hacked my phone and makes videos according to my notes app ramblings 😂
    Jk but these are too on the nose and she keeps reading me for filth 😂😂💛💛

  • @fashionbeautyrocks
    @fashionbeautyrocks 4 місяці тому +9

    Pleaseeeeeeee consider adding your videos to a spotify account, I would be so grateful to be able to listen to these in the gym- your content is absolutely incredible, and I know it's exactly what I require to break long standing issues. Thank you so much for the time you put in

  • @petermoore5203
    @petermoore5203 5 днів тому

    Once again, spot on! Exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you.

  • @SRHisntSilent
    @SRHisntSilent 4 місяці тому +8

    Let me just say that I have learnt more about love and self acceptance through your channels videos then all other resources I've had in all of my 29 years of life

  • @francntoto
    @francntoto 4 місяці тому +5

    This video has been very pertinent to me. I just wish to send my gratitude for opening my eyes and helping myself and surely many others:)

  • @aaronyork3995
    @aaronyork3995 4 місяці тому +4

    We interview employees and shop for cars more mindfully and honest than we “shop” for partners when we don’t have this shit resolved. The lasting and profound impact of limerence partners is far more significant than cars and jobs!!! Scary. Children can result!

  • @SaraTennent-cz4ik
    @SaraTennent-cz4ik 3 місяці тому +1

    "Idealizing their flaws" I was like 🤯🤯🤯🤯 YES! That's what I've done and they are some FLAWS. WOW. 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @elainasmith4124
    @elainasmith4124 4 місяці тому +8

    Thank you!

  • @theasianwitch
    @theasianwitch Місяць тому +1

    This video really hit home for me...for years I had been struggling with limerence and just didn't know the word for it. I would have these obsessive crushes on people that I couldn't shake, to the extent that I couldn't stop thinking about them and tried everything to reach them. Now I know I was hoping for a bandaid to my own problems.
    Last year, I had a crush on a guy when I was still healing from C-PTSD and narcissistic abuse...I got way too attached and was struggling to self-regulate. I've done a lot more healing since then, but still having a hard time forgiving myself for my limerence. It helps to know I can cultivate more self-love and gradually expand to more reciprocal relationships rather than idealizing people who may not even be good for me.

  • @SatieSatie
    @SatieSatie 4 місяці тому +14

    Eloquent, detailed and yet on point. I studied psychology, and read and know a lot about these topics (also due to my own deep rooted attachment issues) but you blew me away. I struggle with a severe form of toxic shame and hope your videos will motivate me to finally address it with trauma therapy.

  • @sleepingtoss
    @sleepingtoss 3 місяці тому +7

    For Heidi intimacy is the ultimate goal, like salvation for Christians or enlightenment for Buddhists.

    • @dougieboy28
      @dougieboy28 3 місяці тому +1

      That’s profound! I love this

    • @sleepingtoss
      @sleepingtoss 3 місяці тому

      @@dougieboy28 thnx :)

  • @finetrue
    @finetrue 3 місяці тому +4

    I was literally thinking today why did I have such an illusion that there exists such a superhero who can see me, love me, trust me as being a good person and being lovable, and love me unconditionally. This believe was what crushed me 5 years ago, and even today I am still struggling. Then your video just showed up. Thank you so much for another great video! You are saving my life.

  • @solutions4tenants141
    @solutions4tenants141 3 місяці тому +5

    Hit the nail on the head. Had so many lightbulb moments. Saving this video to watch several more times. Thank you Heidi

  • @jontnoneya3404
    @jontnoneya3404 13 днів тому

    WOW! You never fail to impress me. You're so on point and your insights are very deep. Thank you!!

  • @sjmeola
    @sjmeola 4 місяці тому +6

    Heidi : you have an amazing gift of making complicated issues easy to understand. i am finding that rare in the self help genre on youtube. I decided to treat my self esteem issues by setting up my first session with a therapist on 2/7/24. I will continue to watch and learn from you.

  • @whitebirchtarot
    @whitebirchtarot 4 місяці тому +7

    This is brilliant. So well said and right on target. I needed to learn this decades ago. It’s kind of late, but I’m trying. What I found interesting in my life is that I had no idea that I had toxic shame until I got into a relationship with someone who was capable of intimacy, and then I realized that I wasn’t capable, but I didn’t know why. My husband passed away and now I’m not sure if I even want to try again, but I am working on myself. Thank you so much for this. I’ve never heard this issue so well-described in such a succinct way. Wow. 💕💕

  • @looks-human
    @looks-human 4 місяці тому +6

    I'll be alone forever I'm way too crazy

    • @closethockeyfan5284
      @closethockeyfan5284 4 місяці тому +2

      "jUsT bE yOuRsElF aNd It AlL wOrKs OuT."
      Cool, being myself entails cleaning certain things less often than most women prefe--
      Aaaand they're all gone.

  • @richteffekt
    @richteffekt 15 днів тому

    Ouch! Thank you for knowing your stuff so well and communicating so clearly.

  • @trtl9106
    @trtl9106 4 місяці тому +3

    I’ve been struggling with this recently, as I’m moving on from my last relationship, I kinda fell into an internal turmoil realizing how flawed I was as a partner. I figured if I’m not perfect, no one else that I meet in the future will be, and instead of accepting that and trying to work on a new relationship, I feel like I shut myself off emotionally to the world around me because I’m not going to meet anyone that’s perfect and always going to give me grace when I mess up. I fantasize about a person so perfect for me that all our quirks will line up and there will be no conflict, but that’s rarely the case for anyone. This opened my eyes to the possibility of meeting someone compatible through a series of acceptance that me and the other person will always be flawed. I still am hung up on my last relationship and maybe I’m just not wholly ready to move on from all these good memories I have of them, but I now know the expectation I need to go in with whenever I do decide to get back out there.

  • @whitzala
    @whitzala 3 місяці тому +2

    Heidi, every single word you said landed with me. EVERY SINGLE WORD.

  • @AdrianMark
    @AdrianMark 3 місяці тому +2

    This channel is one of the best psychological self-help resources on the Internet. Thank you so much.

  • @aymericd6723
    @aymericd6723 9 днів тому

    Thank you so much for these videos about limerence, i just learned about it & it explains so much about how i behave.
    This may be the most important video i've seen in my life, it's crazy

  • @MarkThrive
    @MarkThrive 3 місяці тому +1

    17:17 ...the only way to heal our self esteem is to unpack it, look at it and have compassion during it...
    Trauma therapy using EMDR has helped me do just that. By bringing my triggered state experiences to EMDR therapy I am able to reparent myself and that seems to reduce the trauma flashbacks overtime.. I now have the capacity to create self compassion, quiet the inner/exterior critic, avoid chronic dissociating, and escape into fantasy. My true self is starting to emerge and I am more aware of my time in the moment... I am more of the intentional/functional father... I don't depend on my kids to have to regulate my emotions. I'm responsible for my emotional regulation. I can allow my kids to experience their emotions without me suppressing or ignoring them... I guess you could say I am moving towards becoming more securely attached and attune to my needs and that allows me the space to be present for their emotional needs. 😊
    Heidi, your videos are the perfect companion to my CPTSD therapy ...your shining a light on the neuroscience path toward attunement, self esteem, emotional regulation, secure attachment. Namaste 🙏 ❤️‍🩹

  • @Fer-De-Lance
    @Fer-De-Lance 5 годин тому

    Thanks, Heidi.

  • @dalehamon4295
    @dalehamon4295 Місяць тому +1

    I’m 70 years old. My wife and I have been married for 44 years. Believe me, we know all each other’s secrets and warts. It was a hard road but we still love each other. I blame her for our good marriage. I guess we lucked out by accident. Edited by me spelling 😝

  • @piabaingo3096
    @piabaingo3096 4 місяці тому +7

    This combination is me! I have never been able to discribe this to someone. No one ever understood! I am so happy that your chanel exists! Thank you ❤This sums up my whole life and I am actually suffering from a burnout right now at 22 years old!

  • @marilynoverton8142
    @marilynoverton8142 Місяць тому

    Thank you so much, Heidi, for your caring and your sharing!

  • @lizmh3907
    @lizmh3907 4 місяці тому

    So happy to have you back, angel 💕

  • @ZetsubouBlack
    @ZetsubouBlack 12 днів тому

    I felt every word in this. Thank you ❤

  • @crossbow9002
    @crossbow9002 4 місяці тому +1

    this was INCREDIBLE, thank you❤

  • @grugruu
    @grugruu 16 днів тому

    Your channel is a gold mine, thank you so much for sharing such valuable advice

  • @Yolobigcrunch
    @Yolobigcrunch 3 місяці тому

    You're too real and I'm thankful for that😭💕

  • @egyptkiss07
    @egyptkiss07 4 місяці тому +6

    another INCREDIBLE session ((such an understatement)). How can we thank you? How can we support you?? Your work is changing lives….. Thank you so so so so so much for pouring out healing words into the world. I am deeply grateful for your page and your videos have helped me change my life trajectory, healing as an adult. All the love, hailing from the USA (Georgia)

  • @randygonzalez5758
    @randygonzalez5758 4 місяці тому

    This video is a grand slam. Thank u so much for communicating these tough concepts in a manner that is digestible and actually usable!

  • @70chaoswalking07
    @70chaoswalking07 4 місяці тому

    Oh god this one goes right to the heart. Somehow these always come out at the perfect time, thanks Heidi 💛

  • @jasonsmith-fd1yh
    @jasonsmith-fd1yh 4 місяці тому +1

    I love the way you put these things. Thank you for doing what you do!

  • @SilvaWaters
    @SilvaWaters 4 місяці тому

    Perfect timing. Thank you for this eye opening discussion

  • @kerryfaden94
    @kerryfaden94 4 місяці тому

    Can’t thank you enough!
    Opened a huge window to stress and a huge help for our futures!!!

  • @aname4931
    @aname4931 4 місяці тому

    This is exactly what I needed to hear, thank you.

  • @marcrosario7045
    @marcrosario7045 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this message and your channel. It is a godsend for me tbh

  • @FutureFendiFsnista
    @FutureFendiFsnista 4 місяці тому

    This video is Divinely timed. This is the second item I have encountered in regards to this topic.
    Great video!

  • @ShitJustGotReel
    @ShitJustGotReel 4 місяці тому +4

    What a gem of a channel. Thank you for creating and gifting this to the world 💞

  • @platinumlawnservice
    @platinumlawnservice 4 місяці тому +5

    You articulate these topics so well! Its so pleasing to listen to you talk. Not everyone has that quality. Keep making these. They are very helpful

  • @joshliam1967
    @joshliam1967 4 місяці тому

    I'm so thankful for all of your videos, Heidi.

  • @soulscompasshealing
    @soulscompasshealing 3 місяці тому

    As always, you explained this sooooo articulately! Thank you!

  • @yuliyay3612
    @yuliyay3612 4 місяці тому

    Thank you so much, i love your videos because you explain hard topics without adding an extra layer of shame on top of it, as a lot of other personal development people do ❤

  • @Ratabulous
    @Ratabulous 4 місяці тому

    This is exactly what I needed to hear today. Thank you ❤❤❤

  • @wayoftheroadwarrior
    @wayoftheroadwarrior 4 місяці тому

    I needed this so much today. Couldn't imagine a more serendipitous video to show up as soon as I got home today. Been watching a ton of your stuff lately, and I just really appreciate the work you out in, to put out all this cool stuff, so we can learn how to work on ourselves. You're cool as heck for that. Thanks, Heidi!

  • @kaleiyamato
    @kaleiyamato 4 місяці тому +1

    You are on a roll with these videos!! Thank you so much for this ❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @ambergrey1941
    @ambergrey1941 3 місяці тому

    I just discovered your channel. Thank you for these videos, they're life-changing! 💖💖

  • @jameswallace206
    @jameswallace206 4 місяці тому

    You're the best Heidi. Always so clear and understandable.

  • @zzdogger
    @zzdogger 2 місяці тому

    MAN, I have made such wild emotional progress in the past few weeks, it's insane. You helped a lot. Thank you!

  • @hirahi
    @hirahi Місяць тому

    needed to hear this, the self compassion really is super important. thank youu ❤

  • @amandawallace9425
    @amandawallace9425 3 місяці тому

    I’ve never heard anyone breakdown this dynamic much less so clearly- 👏 bravo

  • @melfarrell308
    @melfarrell308 3 місяці тому

    Thank for articulating this I related so much to the belief that romantic love will heal me from my toxic shame

  • @jed1680
    @jed1680 4 місяці тому +2

    I’ve watched your videos for quite some time now. And I’m sure all of the vids have helped many heart wrenching souls facing intense deep inner-works.
    Thank you for your deep, empathetic, compassionate work as this video has helped me in an immeasurable way.

  • @jether_vargas
    @jether_vargas 4 місяці тому

    You have helped me so much realizing about myself and I understand a lot of things which I would never thought of

  • @derpkipper
    @derpkipper 2 місяці тому

    I'm glad I found this channel
    The way you word things really speaks to me

  • @legoguru3000
    @legoguru3000 Місяць тому

    You explain things so succinctly, thanks fam 💪

  • @mokari9268
    @mokari9268 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for explaining this in a plain and objective way.

  • @trevorunderwood4408
    @trevorunderwood4408 4 місяці тому +4

    Thank you so much for this video Heidi. I came across your channel only recently and I wish it was sooner. I have been subconsciously dealing with both limerence and toxic shame for over a decade without any realization. Feeling like an outcast in an endless cycle, your videos have been a revelation to the problems in my life and relationships. In tying the two together, so much makes sense now, as well as a way to clear the pain I experience. In my earliest years my family experienced a tragedy that I have always blocked out, not remembering much of anything from before the age of 8. Your video on anxious attachment relationships was absolutely spot on to how I have approached people. family, and friends. The knowledge you have bestowed is a revelation to say the least. Please keep up the good work. It is so much appreciated.

  • @aaaaaaaapins1578
    @aaaaaaaapins1578 2 місяці тому

    words cannot express how much i am thankful for your channel ❤

  • @MariahB1111
    @MariahB1111 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for making these videos. You seem to be taylor-made to be in a guide for people dealing with self/relationship issues.

  • @TheVoidOfWhatever
    @TheVoidOfWhatever 4 місяці тому

    Thank you. This is beautifully summed up.

  • @J_Sunshine
    @J_Sunshine 4 місяці тому +2

    Here from Twitter. This is spot on! Thank you for sharing your wonderful knowledge!

  • @lnrdo
    @lnrdo 4 місяці тому

    🙏🏼 super grateful for this insight. I've battled each of these difficult internal struggles and never realized how connected they actually were. This is such a key realization for me in the work I'm doing. Thank you, Heidi.

  • @oieci9801
    @oieci9801 3 місяці тому

    Heidi, I want to thank you, sometimes I need to pause for some minutes to figure out how is it for me, regardless, your insight has always been much appreciated and validating, wished everyone watched your vids, keep it up pls

  • @clarabritneysak6375
    @clarabritneysak6375 4 місяці тому

    This video made me smile. I see the good change in my life since I started healing. Thank you Heidi.

  • @andthen...
    @andthen... 4 місяці тому

    I've watched a few videos on limerence, and although I knew I've found myself in it, I had no idea how often, or why until listening to this; GREAT explanation/video!

  • @jonathancook6682
    @jonathancook6682 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this clear explanation. You've helped me a lot over the past. Purple of years.

  • @miomiomio56
    @miomiomio56 3 місяці тому +2

    You have validated and confirmed so many feelings and thoughts I've had over the years, and I'm still in the process of healing but your video made me realize the progress that I DID make how far I've come, and what I still need to work on. Thank you so much, God bless you

  • @deepdivewithkhy
    @deepdivewithkhy 4 місяці тому

    I know you don’t need to hear this, but YOU WERE MADE FOR THIS. Thank you. I needed to hear all of this.

  • @margett__
    @margett__ 3 місяці тому

    Thank you, Heidi! This video is incredibly reassuring. I've been feeling quite depressed lately, seemingly going round in circles in my own healing. But your video reminded me of how much progress I've already made. I can relate to the descriptions of what true intimacy is supposed to look like/what to search for in connections so much more now, and I certainly let go of the ideal other many months ago. I've intuitively discovered the direction you're suggesting in this video (I have no therapist to work with, so I'm doing my best to help myself on my own, mainly through journaling and meditation), and it feels great to realize how far I've come. It's difficult to feel proud of myself these days, I struggle with negative self-talk and overall I'm feeling down. But your video reminded me of where I started vs. where I'm currently at, and how big of a difference that is. I can honestly say to myself "I'm proud of you" today. Being able to say this in the middle of a depressive episode is worth everything. Your content is priceless.

  • @peterhewitson2669
    @peterhewitson2669 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you Heidi. Excellent stuff❤

  • @hughstoddart3851
    @hughstoddart3851 3 місяці тому

    Thanks Heidi. Totallt on piint as always. Feels very apt for me after spendinf a coyple of weeks with the folks and feeling all the old stuff bubbling up. Much appreciated. Big love xx

  • @buttbuttwhat1
    @buttbuttwhat1 4 місяці тому +1

    This is a great vid. Thank you Heidi.

  • @rickymartin859
    @rickymartin859 3 місяці тому

    I've watched so many of Heidi's videos, and many other people's as well. The way she speaks and explains resonates with me is the best. Thank you, if you ever see this.