The smart move for BP would have been to have RMC or GCI take on the Grand National and then spend some time developing something wild to go where BO is. That way you get a pair of high capacity destination coasters while you build something taller, faster and more stable in high winds than the Big One.
I think three things to consider here are 1) as you’ve said BPB don’t seem to be flush with cash for big investments right now, and 2) in her tweet and the press talk afterwards they referred to a new attraction or ride, that haven’t said roller coaster. Finally Hyperia won’t just take the record for the UKs tallest rollercoaster it is also the UKs tallest ride. Add to all of that the space the Gran Prix will leave behind and I’m afraid to say I think we are looking at a 300 to 400 foot tall star flyer
Difficult to say but I feel if they utilised the surrounding space (the Avalanche area / dome building / Planet Rock / Bowl-a-Drome) a coaster is definitely possible.
I think an Intamin launch with tophat isn’t out of the question, it would be very different to icon with a short ride experience, powerful launch and much taller height, like comparing maverick to TT2 at Cedar point
How funny of them to place trucks outside Thorpe. Do you think any other parks in the uk might try to compete? not sure they’ll have the funding and with Alton having the height limit.
I was thinking of that too when BPB said about it being one foot taller that people who live in glass houses probably shouldn't throw stones since it's technically 23 foot taller lol
@@frankthecat1660 Same reason there's hype around Top Thrill Dragster and Kingda Ka in a world where the 600ft barrier has been broken. Most people dont have access to the whole world..
Either a Big One RMC making it the world's tallest and fastest RMC, or a brand new T rex. A big one re-do would be the cheapest way to get a new elite ride though as the foundations and footer etc are half the cost of a coaster, especially such a big one (lol)
Apologies for the redundancy here, I commented before you mentioned it in the video. But yes the prescedent of copying CP is already established. They've built a Magnum, they've (kind of) built a Maverick, now it's time for a Steel Vengeance
Yeah I am from Leeds.. got season pass this season and last but won't be renewing unless they get something world class..fed up with same old same old.icon bores me now and big one is only good rear left hand seat (if its not got sandbags In due to lack of people)@@chrisogrady28
What a great video this was. I didn't realise just how old either the big one or avalanche was. I can remember avalanche being built as a kid. I thinking back then how great it looked.
If blackpool get the record, I bet thorpe will make stealth taller and make a top thrill 2 clone but has more of a layout after the tophat and of course a spike, could smash the new blackpool coaster by 200ft
Interesting and well narrated video. Parks across the Planet compete with their claims and that's the nature of their business. Each knows what is going on with the others and they are aware that for two or.three years a park will have the ''limelight', especially seen throughout the U.S. a new rides exceeds all others by one or two feet. In the U.K. we lack space but there are other considerations when it comes to a new ride, and it should be noted how the public votes..........do you ever see a short queue for the Big One?
In fairness if they just added a few struts or whatever (I'm sure its that easy!) they could shift The Big One up say 50 feet and reclaim the crown. Shouldn't be too hard lol. Oh yeah I do hope they RMC The Big One with Steel Vengeance style inversions. Yes please. Thanks for the video.
A tilt coaster wouldn’t be a world’s first because the one at six flags Qiddiya and the one at Cota Land would probably open first. I really don’t think that they need the tallest. I think a nice whippet RMC or Intamin single rail would fit in really nicely. Also, just because some of the structure on the big one might look similar to a wooden structure, some of the ride uses traditional pillars and also, the lattice is probably a very different style to the wooden ones so may need a totally new track design from RMC which would cost a lot of money.
great video thank you! I live mile away from the peasurebeach and imregularvisitor soeventhough nothng is confined, this is very exciting indeed especially for locals.
It used to be that all the good roller coasters were up north (eg BPB and Alton Towers). Thorpe Park and other southern parks have put a stop to the northern monopoly on good roller coasters. Good for them I say.
She needs to make some profit through the park first before investing in a gimmick. They also had been lying about Big One being 235ft tall for 30 years.
People have been getting away with _that_ in dating apps/websites for the best part of 25 years, so Amanda isn't really going against the grain there... 😇
I think the text about beating hyperia by 1 foot is just some banter from pleasure beach. I really dont think that theme parks will be angry at each other and publicly say it.
It's also a lie, since it's only 213ft tall, but they cleverly put the van outside thorpe park and changed the statistics on their website to make people believe the big one is also faster at 85mph when it's actually 74mph.
The big one is outdated garbage now, good first drop but the rest of the ride is a snore fest, plus its still rough even after the retrack. Get rid of it.
I wish it wasn't the case by I can't see BPB doing anything spectacular to beat any records. If they were going to try and beat the ride height record it would probably be done on the cheap, a taller drop/shot tower to replace Iceblast would be my guess.
Their only option would be a intamin LSM launch coaster with top hat as they dont have the room. They dont have to funds to go breaking records. They dont have a unlimited pot of money like merlin. If they did take the record back thorpe would just reimagine stealth and make it taller
I think both parks have banged there heads together and have agreed a war to attract media hype and premote more ticket sales. and have a banter laugh in the process.
Pleasure Beach can try to beat the record again but Thorpe Park and Merlin Entertainments went a long long way to get the record and they want the record. Pleasure Beach's annual revenue is approx £115mn and Thorpe Park's is £266mn - so while both have enough money to build huge coasters, Thorpe Park can build larger coasters and / or battle for the record longer. Merlin Entertainments (who own Thorpe Park) has an approx annual revenue of £2.1bn so they can really do anything. Pleasure Beach can try to regain the record, but if Thorpe and Merlin really want the record, they can't be stopped easily.
I know Hyperia had a rocky start, but now it seems to be working a lot better now, in fact it rained a few times at Thorpe the day I went on Hyperia and that didn't cause problems to my knowledge, and by now, I consider it the most intense rollercoaster I've been on yet, my god the Gs you get on Hyperia..
Blackpool Pleasure Beach Resort Lancashire Whatever. 😂 In all honesty, a Mack Stryker with their new punchy beyond vertical LSMs would be awesome. I’d also like to see RMC retrack Grand National.
I would love to see a new family thrill coaster a Lightwater Valley but I just don't see it happening as it appears they're aiming to target themselves towards a very young audience (similar to Gulliver's parks).
Light water valley shouldn't even be mentioned in the conversation anymore. It's not the same anymore. It is now just a small tiny park with temporary funfair rides. Light water valley was butchered and there is no coming back.
There's a surprising amount of space available if you consider using the vacant spaces _between_ and _within_ the areas of the existing attractions. 📍 Just think what you could put in alongside the section of disused monorail track that's now serving as the conduit bearer for Icons launch supply... 🚈💨😉
If BPB wanted a coaster that was not only _taller_ than Hyperia but also _faster_ *and* bringing in something (Probably) never seen on a coaster before, I'd happily design something that would break everything _except_ bones. Sadly; Being completely isolated off and cut-away from society for having significant Autism and being „too old“ to receive the same equality those born after 1992 do, any ideas I have go straight into the _Shadowbanned_ bin, along with any voice or visibility in the public space... 🌻🗑🔇😢 Which is a pity when you consider just how epic a high-speed, low-clearance barrel roll over the Watson Rd. deck would be... 🎢💨🙌 But at the same time I think I ought to apologise for laughing at 08:43 loudly enough to be heard right across the UK. That gag's probably older than I am (And having come to the UK alongside William I that's saying quite a bit! 👴) but the way you delivered it managed to breathe new life into it! ↕🇬🇧🃏🤣👍
The Big One is only 235ft ASL (above sea level), it is 213ft from ground level. Hyperia is 236ft from ground NOT sea level so Hyperia is taller by 23ft, not 1ft. Get the facts right Pleasure Beach!
I am sorry blackpool pleasure beach but measuring from sea level is low key cheating the first drop is actually more like 205ft so hyperia first drop is more than one ft bigger
I don't think they're going to get a new rollercoaster. There's not enough room. That being said, they still might break the height record. I think they might go for a drop tower. Something like Falcons fury at Busch gardens or maybe even apocalypse, which was removed not long ago. Manufacturer of choice would of course be intamin.
@andrewbarrett42 Not unless they get rid of an older one first. In this case, though, there still probably isn't, even though they're removing a ride for this. That's why I think it's gonna be a drop tower if anything.
@@Stumpymattycat I live in Blackpool,A drop tower also will be dissapointing,even if they get rid of Avalanche and when the Grand prix is gone there still isn,t enough amount of space.
@andrewbarrett42 I don't know the specific amount of space available, but if there's even speculation about it being a rollercoaster, there's probably enough room for a flat ride. Drop towers also take up a tiny footprint. Take a look at detonator at thorpe park for example.
The Big One is absolutely shite. First drop, then just a couple of minutes of a rough rickety element free tram ride, a complete joke of a Coaster. Take it down and build a proper hyper coaster with forces speed and airtime.
Blackpool PB roasting Thorpe Park with trucks was not on my bingo card 💀
The smart move for BP would have been to have RMC or GCI take on the Grand National and then spend some time developing something wild to go where BO is. That way you get a pair of high capacity destination coasters while you build something taller, faster and more stable in high winds than the Big One.
I think three things to consider here are 1) as you’ve said BPB don’t seem to be flush with cash for big investments right now, and 2) in her tweet and the press talk afterwards they referred to a new attraction or ride, that haven’t said roller coaster. Finally Hyperia won’t just take the record for the UKs tallest rollercoaster it is also the UKs tallest ride. Add to all of that the space the Gran Prix will leave behind and I’m afraid to say I think we are looking at a 300 to 400 foot tall star flyer
Difficult to say but I feel if they utilised the surrounding space (the Avalanche area / dome building / Planet Rock / Bowl-a-Drome) a coaster is definitely possible.
You missed the oppurtunity to start the video with "This week saw the opening and closure of Hyperia which broke two records then just broke".
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I think an Intamin launch with tophat isn’t out of the question, it would be very different to icon with a short ride experience, powerful launch and much taller height, like comparing maverick to TT2 at Cedar point
Very good point!
Blackpool Pleasure Beach should get a B&M Giga Dive Coaster to reclaim the UK's Tallest Record from Hyperia at Thorpe Park.
A dive coaster would complement Pleasure Beach's line-up very well, and likely wouldn't require too much space!
Blackpool wouldn’t even afford that or even have space 💀
250 fT rmc grand national?
A “giga dive coaster” wouldn’t beat Hyperia. Yes, a giga dc is something never seen before but it isn’t likely to be built.
Only if it DOESN'T HAVE THOSE DARN VEST RESTRAINTS
Why vest restraints on dive coasters... where the airtime is the main thing... WHYYYYYY 🤪
How funny of them to place trucks outside Thorpe. Do you think any other parks in the uk might try to compete? not sure they’ll have the funding and with Alton having the height limit.
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I think they should RMC Steeplechase. It’s been getting rough and I think that it would definitely be the best choice
@@MalrusOSC Imagine doing ZERO-G rolls whilst clinging onto a horse and just a seatbelt
I was thinking of that too when BPB said about it being one foot taller that people who live in glass houses probably shouldn't throw stones since it's technically 23 foot taller lol
Someone has to tell them they’re late to the Coaster Wars, off by a couple decades 😂
Interested to see what Pleasure Beach does!
In a world where 400+ foot coasters exist, I really don't understand the hype around this ride.
@@frankthecat1660 Same reason there's hype around Top Thrill Dragster and Kingda Ka in a world where the 600ft barrier has been broken. Most people dont have access to the whole world..
@frankthecat1660 theres hype because theres no 400+ ft rollercoasters in the uk.
@@fairytcyel woopty doo
nah, it's a new coaster war, UK edition
1:35 🤣 LAUGHED SO HARD
That documentary clip is an absolute classic and the context of this part of the video provided a perfect opportunity for me to use it! 😂😂😂
Either a Big One RMC making it the world's tallest and fastest RMC, or a brand new T rex. A big one re-do would be the cheapest way to get a new elite ride though as the foundations and footer etc are half the cost of a coaster, especially such a big one (lol)
Apologies for the redundancy here, I commented before you mentioned it in the video.
But yes the prescedent of copying CP is already established. They've built a Magnum, they've (kind of) built a Maverick, now it's time for a Steel Vengeance
Completely agree! It would be great for Pleasure Beach, the UK and the industry as a whole!
@@ThrillNet if they got an rmc, or any truly elite ride, that would be reason enough for me to get an annual pass despite being 2.5 hours away
Yeah I am from Leeds.. got season pass this season and last but won't be renewing unless they get something world class..fed up with same old same old.icon bores me now and big one is only good rear left hand seat (if its not got sandbags In due to lack of people)@@chrisogrady28
What a great video this was. I didn't realise just how old either the big one or avalanche was. I can remember avalanche being built as a kid. I thinking back then how great it looked.
That's cool to hear! Thank you so much for the support!
If blackpool get the record, I bet thorpe will make stealth taller and make a top thrill 2 clone but has more of a layout after the tophat and of course a spike, could smash the new blackpool coaster by 200ft
Pleasure Beach should RMC the big one, all that space would make for a great hybrid
Interesting and well narrated video.
Parks across the Planet compete with their claims and that's the nature of their business. Each knows what is going on with the others and they are aware that for two or.three years a park will have the ''limelight', especially seen throughout the U.S. a new rides exceeds all others by one or two feet. In the U.K. we lack space but there are other considerations when it comes to a new ride, and it should be noted how the public votes..........do you ever see a short queue for the Big One?
For me, I would like to see either a tilt coaster, dive coaster or single rail coaster at Blackpool Pleasure Beach.
Don't they already _have_ a single-rail racing coaster themed around horse racing, or have they removed that since last April?...
In fairness if they just added a few struts or whatever (I'm sure its that easy!) they could shift The Big One up say 50 feet and reclaim the crown. Shouldn't be too hard lol. Oh yeah I do hope they RMC The Big One with Steel Vengeance style inversions. Yes please. Thanks for the video.
A tilt coaster wouldn’t be a world’s first because the one at six flags Qiddiya and the one at Cota Land would probably open first. I really don’t think that they need the tallest. I think a nice whippet RMC or Intamin single rail would fit in really nicely. Also, just because some of the structure on the big one might look similar to a wooden structure, some of the ride uses traditional pillars and also, the lattice is probably a very different style to the wooden ones so may need a totally new track design from RMC which would cost a lot of money.
Pleasure beach can just move the lift hill of the big one back a bit and make it 1 ft taller than hyperia
That would only be 215ft though
@@iliketrains3546The big one is currently 235ft.
Needs to be taller then 1 ft
If you want to class Hyperia’s height above sea level, you realise it’s over 300ft
@@wizardzzftw2955 Hyperia is just a foot taller than the big one.
great video thank you! I live mile away from the peasurebeach and imregularvisitor soeventhough nothng is confined, this is very exciting indeed especially for locals.
nothing will ever replace the feel of a good old wooden roller-coaster. Maybe they should do a wooden coaster that does have inverts and loops.
That Amanda clip was genius 😂
It used to be that all the good roller coasters were up north (eg BPB and Alton Towers). Thorpe Park and other southern parks have put a stop to the northern monopoly on good roller coasters. Good for them I say.
She needs to make some profit through the park first before investing in a gimmick. They also had been lying about Big One being 235ft tall for 30 years.
People have been getting away with _that_ in dating apps/websites for the best part of 25 years, so Amanda isn't really going against the grain there... 😇
No, please don't! Every ride at Thorpe Park is a celebrity.
Pleasure Beach is my local park and has a lot of sentimental value to me but Thorpe is a very close second as far as UK parks are concerned!
@@ThrillNet So we have our own opinions. Thorpe is my HOME park: my favorite.
I could make a “I’m a Celebrity!” pun right now, but I’m not going to.
@@reteledman Right
I think the text about beating hyperia by 1 foot is just some banter from pleasure beach. I really dont think that theme parks will be angry at each other and publicly say it.
It's also a lie, since it's only 213ft tall, but they cleverly put the van outside thorpe park and changed the statistics on their website to make people believe the big one is also faster at 85mph when it's actually 74mph.
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The big one is outdated garbage now, good first drop but the rest of the ride is a snore fest, plus its still rough even after the retrack. Get rid of it.
It’s pretty much a landmark at this point. It’ll be a very long time before it’s gone.
In my opinion they should get rid of it, redo the ride with more airtime, more inversions and call it the bigger one.
The retracking has ruined the big one so yes they can demolish it now.
It's not rough it's uniquely rough if you will even call it rough.
Get rid of the blue track rollercoaster infusion its rougth as hell and put something else in its place
I wish it wasn't the case by I can't see BPB doing anything spectacular to beat any records. If they were going to try and beat the ride height record it would probably be done on the cheap, a taller drop/shot tower to replace Iceblast would be my guess.
I like the idea of a B&M dive coaster at the park
Their only option would be a intamin LSM launch coaster with top hat as they dont have the room. They dont have to funds to go breaking records. They dont have a unlimited pot of money like merlin. If they did take the record back thorpe would just reimagine stealth and make it taller
imagine if they decide to make the big one taller
I think both parks have banged there heads together and have agreed a war to attract media hype and premote more ticket sales. and have a banter laugh in the process.
Great video brother it will be interesting to see what they actualy put in place of the grand prix
Pleasure Beach can try to beat the record again but Thorpe Park and Merlin Entertainments went a long long way to get the record and they want the record. Pleasure Beach's annual revenue is approx £115mn and Thorpe Park's is £266mn - so while both have enough money to build huge coasters, Thorpe Park can build larger coasters and / or battle for the record longer. Merlin Entertainments (who own Thorpe Park) has an approx annual revenue of £2.1bn so they can really do anything. Pleasure Beach can try to regain the record, but if Thorpe and Merlin really want the record, they can't be stopped easily.
World's first polar coaster 1ft bigger than falcons flight. The records coming home...15 loops take that record too. Have that merlin.
I know Hyperia had a rocky start, but now it seems to be working a lot better now, in fact it rained a few times at Thorpe the day I went on Hyperia and that didn't cause problems to my knowledge, and by now, I consider it the most intense rollercoaster I've been on yet, my god the Gs you get on Hyperia..
Really good video - keep it up
Hope so. We need a true coaster wars again.
I been on both now and the big one still seems taller , not sure why but just feels higher at the the top .
Great video, you have a new subscriber
Let Hyperia have her glory for a couple of years.
Thorpe Park built an amazing Rollercoaster 🎢
PB dont have the money to be building hyper coasters. A Single Rail RMC or Intamin hot racer makes more sense and would be unique in the UK.
Blackpool Pleasure Beach Resort Lancashire Whatever. 😂 In all honesty, a Mack Stryker with their new punchy beyond vertical LSMs would be awesome. I’d also like to see RMC retrack Grand National.
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I would love to see a new family thrill coaster a Lightwater Valley but I just don't see it happening as it appears they're aiming to target themselves towards a very young audience (similar to Gulliver's parks).
Light water valley shouldn't even be mentioned in the conversation anymore. It's not the same anymore. It is now just a small tiny park with temporary funfair rides. Light water valley was butchered and there is no coming back.
looks like were having height war
Literally have to destroy rides to make space so yh not happening
There's a surprising amount of space available if you consider using the vacant spaces _between_ and _within_ the areas of the existing attractions. 📍
Just think what you could put in alongside the section of disused monorail track that's now serving as the conduit bearer for Icons launch supply... 🚈💨😉
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i really hope they dont because i dont want to have to go all the way to pleasure beach😭
The big one is a classic and will stand the test of time
I 100% agree!
If BPB wanted a coaster that was not only _taller_ than Hyperia but also _faster_ *and* bringing in something (Probably) never seen on a coaster before, I'd happily design something that would break everything _except_ bones. Sadly; Being completely isolated off and cut-away from society for having significant Autism and being „too old“ to receive the same equality those born after 1992 do, any ideas I have go straight into the _Shadowbanned_ bin, along with any voice or visibility in the public space... 🌻🗑🔇😢
Which is a pity when you consider just how epic a high-speed, low-clearance barrel roll over the Watson Rd. deck would be... 🎢💨🙌
But at the same time I think I ought to apologise for laughing at 08:43 loudly enough to be heard right across the UK. That gag's probably older than I am (And having come to the UK alongside William I that's saying quite a bit! 👴) but the way you delivered it managed to breathe new life into it! ↕🇬🇧🃏🤣👍
The Big One is only 235ft ASL (above sea level), it is 213ft from ground level. Hyperia is 236ft from ground NOT sea level so Hyperia is taller by 23ft, not 1ft. Get the facts right Pleasure Beach!
Firstly, they need to have money and not be a loss making business…
Also RMC did say they are building something bigger than they have already not in the usa
what if they get rid of one of there car parks ????
I am sorry blackpool pleasure beach but measuring from sea level is low key cheating the first drop is actually more like 205ft so hyperia first drop is more than one ft bigger
How about an Intamin Vertical Launch coaster?
WAR!
What is it good for?
...Absolutely nothing (man!) 😁👍
The launch of Voltron is stronger, though still not as strong as Intamin LSMs can be.
I don't think they're going to get a new rollercoaster. There's not enough room. That being said, they still might break the height record. I think they might go for a drop tower. Something like Falcons fury at Busch gardens or maybe even apocalypse, which was removed not long ago. Manufacturer of choice would of course be intamin.
I know its going to be dissapointing,Blackpool will never get a world class coaster,no space.
@andrewbarrett42 Not unless they get rid of an older one first. In this case, though, there still probably isn't, even though they're removing a ride for this. That's why I think it's gonna be a drop tower if anything.
@@Stumpymattycat I live in Blackpool,A drop tower also will be dissapointing,even if they get rid of Avalanche and when the Grand prix is gone there still isn,t enough amount of space.
@andrewbarrett42 I don't know the specific amount of space available, but if there's even speculation about it being a rollercoaster, there's probably enough room for a flat ride. Drop towers also take up a tiny footprint. Take a look at detonator at thorpe park for example.
@@Stumpymattycat It would be good if they take down Big One and replace it with a bigger coaster like Shambala.
Does anyone think it’s possible to fit a ride like nitro from six flags NJ or a 500ft version of kingda ka?
Not into pleasure beach
Merlin vs Pleasure Beach.. we all know merlin could get them out the game in one click..
There's already a new gen tilt being built in Texas, so wouldn't be a world first
New coasters wars?
RMC BIG ONE all the way..
the steel one it is then
How are you gonna Rmc a steel coaster Rmc specifically designed the iBox track to replace wooden coasters
Blackpool are just false advertising
Grand Prix reborn. It went on the big one tracks, so..
Grand prix never went on the big ones track. That video was a fake.
@@danielledewitt1 if it can be faked, it can be done.
@@gamingandcraftswithlogan8714 It never happened.
@@danielledewitt1 if someone faked it well enough to be believed, it can happen
@@gamingandcraftswithlogan8714 No car went on the track.
We dont need faster nor taller rides..interesting rides are the future...reinvent the ghost train..make it scary.
Uk coaster wars
first and only RmC coaster in the UK do it blackpool plzzzzz
Blackpool are clowns. Big ine is 235 from sea level. Now measure hyperia from sea level and itll be the tallest coaster in the world
Hyperia from sea level would be around 302 ft tall.
they could get Zamperla to RMC the big one
Too thrill dragster 2 dupe would be good
Get a B&M hyper
I know what Blackpool will do measure it from sea level claim it’s the tallest in the uk whilst from ground level it’s not 😂😂
The bigger one
The Big One is the shitiest coaster ever and needs to be taken down and scraped.
I think RMC is coming
Avalanche is a good ride!!
The Big One is absolutely shite. First drop, then just a couple of minutes of a rough rickety element free tram ride, a complete joke of a Coaster. Take it down and build a proper hyper coaster with forces speed and airtime.
they should shorten it with a turnaround on the 2nd drop
It needs to be taken down and scrapped.Its also the ugliest too.
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