You did a nice job building your trellis. If you don't mind me stating some things I learned from experience. Your horizonal arms will be considerably stronger if you had put them on the outside and will be less likely to warp. Contrary to popular belief wire stretches an enormous amount, especially under load. Invest in some turnbuckles and/or eye bolts that can be tightened. If you already know that you will need a third post then set it now instead of fighting wires, canes, taking canes off wires, trying to line up post with plants in the way, and possibly stepping on plants.
Michael Hartman - I agree that he has does an excellent job here! I also want to thank you for your comments, they all seem very reasonable and useful to my mind. Putting the 'arms' on the outside I assume means the tension of the wire pulls the arms into, rather than away from, the posts. Hence adding strength? That just seems like good practice in any such undertaking. The point of adding in the extra post now seems on the mark - time and cost allowing, I think I would rather not fight pre-grown prickly canes. As to putting in tensioners to allow making the wire tauter in the future, I agree. Wires can lose an awful lot of tension over time, and doing so means you have the option of re-purposing the frame to heavier crops/plants (such as grapes?)...Thank you the poster and yourself, and greetings from Yorkshire, England!
Excellent Video clip! Excuse me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Lammywalness Green Grapes Guide (do a search on google)? It is a smashing one of a kind product for learning how to become a successful grape grower minus the normal expense. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my best friend Jordan finally got astronomical success with it.
Beautiful! On a farm that would be overkill but for a residential garden it does the job and is very aesthetically pleasing for visitors to enjoy. I was looking at metal T-posts and wire or fence for my try at raspberries and blackberries (in addition to my regular tomatoes & peppers) but I may copy your design. In the past I constructed a pergola over part of my deck which has become one of the backyard's main highlights with an evening light string, wind chimes, hanging basket planters, etc. Your design would complement that. Great job!
looks great! save on hardware cost by drilling a hole through the end post arms and wrapping wire on back side or running a continuous wire woven through all arms. add a simple strut in the middle with a couple of pieces of wood with notches on opposite sides to support middle of run or move closer to one plant or another when needed. store inside during winter. if you have kids, watch them climb the crosses too! LOL! thank you for sharing!
3:35 just a side note for if you ever do that kind of cut again, its much easier to just do 3 cuts straight down each line and 2 on a 45 degree angle from the middle to the outside lines so you end up with a point in the middle and you should just be able to break the remaining 2 pieces off by pushing them with your hand or tapping them lightly with a hammer, then just clean it up with a chisel.
Thanks for the video! Just finished mine using your design. Mine is on a slope, so it's not level. I also only notched into the arms and left the posts whole.
In the main compilation video I go into how this is handled. Just prune the floricanes to be closer to the front, and if necessary zip-tie them to the front trellis wire so they stay up there. For primocane fruiters, they are usually pretty tall and they generally grow towards the sun, so this wall faces south so not much issue there either. But you know, ideally it's better to have the plants be accessible on both sides if possible. That's not possible for me, so just working with what I got. Also, primocane fruiters generally produce fruit near the top of the cane, so accessing fruit isn't as challenging as one might think.
I have a 12 foot long by 2 foot wide raseberry bed with 8 plants. I was just going to use 6 T-Bars (4 at the ends and 2 in the middle) and run some wires through them. Does anyone think this will work?
Please subscribe and Watch my video on how to grow raspberries. They all lived and did very well and updates throughout are under that vid. Part II of how to grow in the works. I'm getting ready to plant the new release black raspberry fall fruiter called Niwot this Saturday. Now is the time to order your berries, but expect some popular cultivars to be sold out. I highly recommend Indiana Berry because you can mix and match smaller quantities and they seem to have the best selection too.
Let me do the math here. A 8 foot pole placed in the earth 48 inches leaves me with a 4 foot tall trellis. Why do yours look taller than 4 feet. Hmmmm.
Pierre Gosselin there are ways of curing that. Maybe run the wire through the cross completely and attach it to the bottom of the center post. Then the force is pulling down rather than inward.
*Thanks for the well-presented and researched video. Much appreciated. Here's one for you ( **deam.design/ve9j** ): All other things being equal, should a lean-to shed across the back of a bungalow be considered an out-building, or an extension? It also seems that if I build a small wooden shed and bolt it to the house wall that planning may be required i.e. it becomes an extension made of combustible material! Thoughts?*
You did a nice job building your trellis. If you don't mind me stating some things I learned from experience. Your horizonal arms will be considerably stronger if you had put them on the outside and will be less likely to warp. Contrary to popular belief wire stretches an enormous amount, especially under load. Invest in some turnbuckles and/or eye bolts that can be tightened. If you already know that you will need a third post then set it now instead of fighting wires, canes, taking canes off wires, trying to line up post with plants in the way, and possibly stepping on plants.
Michael Hartman - I agree that he has does an excellent job here! I also want to thank you for your comments, they all seem very reasonable and useful to my mind. Putting the 'arms' on the outside I assume means the tension of the wire pulls the arms into, rather than away from, the posts. Hence adding strength? That just seems like good practice in any such undertaking. The point of adding in the extra post now seems on the mark - time and cost allowing, I think I would rather not fight pre-grown prickly canes. As to putting in tensioners to allow making the wire tauter in the future, I agree. Wires can lose an awful lot of tension over time, and doing so means you have the option of re-purposing the frame to heavier crops/plants (such as grapes?)...Thank you the poster and yourself, and greetings from Yorkshire, England!
Excellent Video clip! Excuse me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Lammywalness Green Grapes Guide (do a search on google)? It is a smashing one of a kind product for learning how to become a successful grape grower minus the normal expense. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my best friend Jordan finally got astronomical success with it.
I built this for my new raspberry patch last fall. Excellent tutorial, simple steps, and beautiful results! Thank you!!
Beautiful! On a farm that would be overkill but for a residential garden it does the job and is very aesthetically pleasing for visitors to enjoy. I was looking at metal T-posts and wire or fence for my try at raspberries and blackberries (in addition to my regular tomatoes & peppers) but I may copy your design. In the past I constructed a pergola over part of my deck which has become one of the backyard's main highlights with an evening light string, wind chimes, hanging basket planters, etc. Your design would complement that. Great job!
looks great! save on hardware cost by drilling a hole through the end post arms and wrapping wire on back side or running a continuous wire woven through all arms. add a simple strut in the middle with a couple of pieces of wood with notches on opposite sides to support middle of run or move closer to one plant or another when needed. store inside during winter. if you have kids, watch them climb the crosses too! LOL! thank you for sharing!
3:35 just a side note for if you ever do that kind of cut again, its much easier to just do 3 cuts straight down each line and 2 on a 45 degree angle from the middle to the outside lines so you end up with a point in the middle and you should just be able to break the remaining 2 pieces off by pushing them with your hand or tapping them lightly with a hammer, then just clean it up with a chisel.
Thanks for your excellent guidance!
Building one now using 75mm fence posts using your method!
Are you supposed to attach your raspberry bush/canes to the actual wire itself? Or how exactly does it work?
Yes, you tie fruiting canes to the upper wire and remove and replace them each year. View “How to prune a raspberry bush from University of Maine”
Thanks for the video! Just finished mine using your design. Mine is on a slope, so it's not level. I also only notched into the arms and left the posts whole.
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Great video. Thanks for sharing. I think this would be a great project for me and my sons to build.
When you sunk them into the ground, did you use cement?
With all that weight on top, i'd hope so!
Of course
Outstanding presentation. Hope you harvest buckets-full this year!
you did a great job mugs... nicely done sir
Thank you this is really helpful. And your trellis fence looks awesome!
Great video, when I start mine i'll be sure to keep this build in mind for my setup.
Will be getting my husband to build this for my blackberries. Thank you so much!
What length were the posts ..8'? Bury them 3' or 4'? What height are the two cross pieces? Sure do like the videos! Keep 'em going👍
going give this a try for my grape vines and blackberry's ill be getting this weekend.
How long are the 2 different crossmembers?
did you cement the posts in?
How far did you bury the 8ft post? In NE North Carolina, and have extreme tornado winds..no trees 36 acres
Again, more great information
Did you cement your posts? How far into the soil are they buried?
But you never said at what height to put the cross rails
posted 6 years ago, but it would be interesting to see how he harvested berries on the side closest to house
In the main compilation video I go into how this is handled. Just prune the floricanes to be closer to the front, and if necessary zip-tie them to the front trellis wire so they stay up there. For primocane fruiters, they are usually pretty tall and they generally grow towards the sun, so this wall faces south so not much issue there either. But you know, ideally it's better to have the plants be accessible on both sides if possible. That's not possible for me, so just working with what I got. Also, primocane fruiters generally produce fruit near the top of the cane, so accessing fruit isn't as challenging as one might think.
Nice job on the instructions and video, thx
Nice, but now with rainfall or watering the pesticides can leach into the soil and feed the plants you will consume!
Nice..I can only see one problem, end post might tilt over the years.
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Really nice. For all those delicious berries you grow.
I have a 12 foot long by 2 foot wide raseberry bed with 8 plants. I was just going to use 6 T-Bars (4 at the ends and 2 in the middle) and run some wires through them. Does anyone think this will work?
Just the info I needed! thanks for posting!
Love it. Great idea! Could this be use for grapes too?
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I just used a used pallet work for me plus doesn't cost any money.
hey mug! you didn't give the height of the cross bars!!!!
How high off the ground is the first cross piece? You said 20" from the top piece to the bottom, but I didn't hear that lower measurement. Thanks
24"
I’m like this a lot but think it’s going to be hard to access fruit on the side by the building.
How height is your first notch from the ground?
How deep did you bury the pole ?
Below the frost line, obviously.
@@Cyclonut96 I'm in Canada, so that would be at least 1 meter lol...
But yeah, that makes sense.
. @Murlockingqc Me too, so that question should be on your mind for any fence work..
Nice Slovak cross!
Good Idea, thank you.
Just what i was looking for 👍
How tall are the trellis posts?
did they all die? i couldn't find an update on your raspberrys
Please subscribe and Watch my video on how to grow raspberries. They all lived and did very well and updates throughout are under that vid. Part II of how to grow in the works. I'm getting ready to plant the new release black raspberry fall fruiter called Niwot this Saturday. Now is the time to order your berries, but expect some popular cultivars to be sold out. I highly recommend Indiana Berry because you can mix and match smaller quantities and they seem to have the best selection too.
how did u get the posts down?
So project cost in total? 200.00? Or so?
Should have put a turnbuckel on the line.
Orr just screw in the screw...
Thank you this really helped and old raspberry farmer like me.
How deep did you bury your posts?
48"
***** That's pretty deep -28-36 should do the trick for most soils.
I went 36 with mine. I only had access to a old style screw hole digger. It wasn't long enough me to get to 48.
You'll probably be fine. I went 48" because the winters in Cleveland have been extremely cold so I wanted to keep them from heaving.
+mugs132 I'm in Lorain County about 30 mi. west of Cle. I believe the constant freeze and thaw cycles we get here probably do most of the heaving.
Thanks for info
You went through all that trouble to make a 1/2 half lap joint it should have been facing the other way That's where that strength would come from
A fence tool would be better for stringing wire.
Looks good
love it! But I would never use pressure treated wood over or around a food source.
nice work.
Very nice!
PSA - take tags off PT!
Can this be used for grapes as well?
Way over built. Exactly how it should be. Very nice
Let me do the math here. A 8 foot pole placed in the earth 48 inches leaves me with a 4 foot tall trellis. Why do yours look taller than 4 feet. Hmmmm.
+1Corinthians1:3 Lol. Your so wrong. 😂
Did those lag screws blow through the other side of the post?
You should have started at the beginning where you installed the posts in the ground. I found this video not helpful at all.
Need help to dig a hole?
@@robs9574 don't forget to tamp!
Overkill. C'mon, 4 lag bolts to join the two notched pieces? Plus the wires will quickly pull the two wood crosses out of level.
Pierre Gosselin there are ways of curing that. Maybe run the wire through the cross completely and attach it to the bottom of the center post. Then the force is pulling down rather than inward.
*Thanks for the well-presented and researched video. Much appreciated. Here's one for you ( **deam.design/ve9j** ): All other things being equal, should a lean-to shed across the back of a bungalow be considered an out-building, or an extension? It also seems that if I build a small wooden shed and bolt it to the house wall that planning may be required i.e. it becomes an extension made of combustible material! Thoughts?*
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