Steph Curry is pound-for-pound the best player of all time - Acho I NBA I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2021
- History was made at Madison Square Garden last night. Steph Curry made two quick three-pointers to pass Ray Allen for the all-time record. The achievement was celebrated briefly after the second shot and after the game, Curry was asked about being the greatest shooter of all time. He responded saying quote: 'I've got that, baby.' Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho discuss what breaking the three-point record does for Curry's legacy.
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Steph Curry is, pound-for-pound, the best player of all time - Acho I NBA I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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U reaching homie lol 😂 not even close best of all time stop it best shooter of all time fine ok have at it ..
@@dakingltroyproductofdade3579 why do you play?
You two young men are brilliant! Always enjoy your conversations. So proud of you.
Never has a player pulled the defense away from the hoop with such "gravity" as Curry has! 💯
Big fact !!
They defend him like he’s the basket. Never seen that before. KD dribbling by and two guys stay on Steph at the logo like he’s the basket and the ball. That don’t make sense.
Oh and notice he’s the most attacked player on defense on the number one defensive team. He knows other team’s offenses so well he’s in their way. He causes teams to shoot bad shots and get turnovers by just being in their way. He’s not at the rim changing shots. But he knows how to be a defender on a team.
@@mandelharvey3429 like in the cavs series vs kyrie
@@mandelharvey3429 Iggy was asked why he's more clutch than Steph lol
@@mandelharvey3429 What a great POV. But but Steph can't play defense is what his haters say.😂🤣🤣
The fact Steph Curry MADE this record relevant‼️ THAT'S THE POINT‼️‼️
How many days have you been watching hoops? Allen breaking it was huge!
@@mediacenterman8583 Not on the same level. Not even close, Steph was covered all week. And it was a big deal because not only is he the goat shooter and owns the record but he made the 3 line the greatest shot.
@@mediacenterman8583 Ray Allen himself said he didn't consider himself a better shooter than Reggie and it was true... Curry having the record is huge because he is OBJECTIVELY the best shooter of all time... Ray wasn't throwing bombs from the logo, in his prime he was a lethal close-mid range player too... he just was a very very good 3pt shooter as well... Steph literally shoots 3's while being double teamed and hits them while being 6'3" (not sure he's even that tall).... the shots that Steph hits every day are impossible for literally every other shooter in basketball history... even if Steph's record is broken by someone else in the future (which it will, since Tray Young has been shooting 3 million 3s from day one even though he's not half as good as Steph) it won't matter... Steph will still be the best shooter of all time because of HOW HE SHOOTS... not just how many he's made...
Also adam silver made it revelant with new adoptation of rules
What nobody can answer for me is how is KD better than Curry...when KD lost to Steph and then a month later joined HIS team? Then on top of That when they where both in GS... They're record was better when Curry played and KD didn't vs When KD played and Curry didn't. Someone please make that make sense to me.
FACTS!!!
Facts Bro
I can agree to that however I just need to make sure that also applies to lebron when compared to other greats
You mean in an isolated one on one or in a team construct . Skills set wise . KD is definitely better on both ends of the floor . In a team construct so far you would give the edge slightly to Steph but KD led good OKC teams year in year out . The GSW system is Steph’s home . KD came in and adapted to that as he does with whatever system he finds himself in cos he is a supreme natural hooper
Well steph lost to Lebron and begged KD to come so that makes it KD.. simple
Disrespectful players: We ain't scared of him
Also their teams: **Double-teams him from the backcourt**
Hahaha true!
He won't be doubled with Klay on the floor
@@truth.74 he'll always be doubled cus even when kd was there he was doubled.
@@Abdul_076 because they run him off a thousand screens
@@thetruth5992 ask yourself why do they have to do that?
Steph makes everything easier for his team. The attention he garners and the movement he does just frees everyone up for easy shots and drives down the lane.
Every superstar ever 😂😂
That’s every great player 😂
Interesting take. I’m pretty sure Harden and Westbrook are both considered superstars and they have never made their teammates better. Carmelo, nope. Even The great Lebron has had issues with role players failing miserably because he needs superstars that can open themselves for his teams to succeed.
@@jayday545 ummm Paul George had his best year ever with Westbrook😂😂😂 James harden got Clint capela and chandler parsons paid, Steven adams got paid because of Westbrook what has happened with adams since he hadn’t had Westbrook? And curry don’t even get mfs open the type of offense they run get mfs open, if you actually went and hooped and played in a motion offense you would know that
@@thetruth5992 right, his double and triple teams don’t help open his teammates up at all. You clearly don’t know math or basketball. Have any of those people you mentioned won anything. The answer is no. Harden got people paid?! Nope he only did what he needed to succeed himself with no winning. Steven Adams is a beast of a defender which has nothing to do with Westbrook. Nobody ever thought Adams was an offensive anything. Keep trying, I’m sure when you finally get to Isiah Thomas or Magic you can hit pay dirt.
Listening to Marcellous try to minimize SC just took a few years off my life
yep, his argument has no substance at all because he cannot justify his reasoning
I'll go one better, best player (no pound for pound disclaimer needed). Highest efficiency, high volume scorer ever. There is no way to quantify the much discussed Curry gravity. His last game - against Celts - he was fouled 70 ft from the rim while jacking a halftime buzzer beating prayer. That is how scared defenders are of Curry. It turned into a 4 pt play when the defender argued the call and got t'eed up.
Right wtf was he even talking about
Marcelous is related to Skip Bayless Rob Parker they always trys to put him down I like what what Stephen A. Smith said one day on First take people are going to hate on Steph regardless because they want to be him TRUTH
🤣🤣
Not going to put a number on Curry but all I gotta say is I’ve never seen a player being guarded like Curry.
None of the GOATS mentioned in this segment have been guarded like Steph for sure
And Curry never had a true hand check d fence to fight against. He would still be great but not as...
@@dr2759 Hand check is the last thing I would worry about, I mean this guy is already being guarded like a magnet at all time / doubled/ tripled/ mobbed by 4-5 players.
@@dr2759 good morning...curry is great but you seem to be old enough to remember when hand checking was allowed in the league..your point is valid..peace
All hand checking Curry would do is decrease the number of broken ankles he inflicts when he wants to go to the hoop. It would be fun watching somebody try to hand check a dude who runs two miles every game without the ball, can stop on dime and fire from anywhere.
Bruh. Did this man just try to make the case that Steph's breaking the record wasn't that big of a deal because his wife wasn't there? . . .
That is a Skip Bayless take if I ever heard one.
Right why you hating on steph curry? Give the man his flowers 🙏🏾
Pound pound yeah that's a fair argument. Just an oz of Curry has taken the League to the next level beyond the three! 💯
3s yes but defense no. Great offense but not the best player
Hypothetically if the NBA came up with a four point line tomorrow how many 4 point goals would Steph have had yesterday THIS IS HOW MUCH HE HAS CHANGED THE GAME let's put this in it's proper light
I actually agree with Wiley, Steph was already so much greater than this accomplishment. He’s An all time great, not just a 3 point specialist
Marcellus subsequently minimized what steph has done by saying players just shoot more threes now. Glossing over the fact that volume had to be justified first
The biggest knock against Curry is not that he doesn’t have a FMVP, it’s that he’s no clutch down the stretch. Acho tried to make it sound like Curryy was just taking a backseat to allow his team to thrive but the fact of the natter is, he just wasn’t good enough in the clutch and other players rose to that challenge.
@@skillethead15 Curry was clutch enough for KD to come to Golden State 🤷🏾♀️
@@skillethead15 “He wasn’t clutch enough so KD stepped up. The same KD who Steph was clutch against and outperformed down the stretch in those final few games to come back 3-1 on in WCF. “ Yes. Makes sense
Skillet is a Curry hater and I'm sure his favorite player always got outplayed by Steph. Dude clearly doesn't know what Clutch means just like that idiot max kellerman.
Wiley is wrong about Ray being a specialist. Dude was a bouncy first choice scorer in the first half of his career.
Exactly early in Ray career he was a above rim scorer. He got game winners dunking on players. Check the tape
Facts Ray use to dunk on people for real
Now let me surprise you with a take that most everyone overlooks. Steph is hands down the greatest shooter, but Ray and Reggie are better clutch shooters than Steph. Steph is a force to be reckoned with in the flow of the game, but we have hardly see him come up big with the game on the line. Even his buddy Klay is a better clutch shooter than he is.
😂. That's false. There's a UA-cam video of all Steph's clutch shots in the playoffs. He definitely has way more than Klay. There's a reason Klay is called game 6 Klay. Stop listening to ESPN and do your own research on Steph. Without Steph Klay or Draymond never become All stars and hall of famers. This Steph not being clutch is getting ridiculous since the proof is out there. Google Steph's playoff shots on UA-cam. Game over.....mic drop.
@@franktraub4757 how many times during their five-year run have the Warriors LEGITIMATELY been in that situation? The 2016 Finals and the 2018 Finals (when he was getting box-and-one'd) are the only occasions that come to mind where he didn't come through.
"I ain't met bad money a day in my life" 😂 that's cold Acho
When you talk about the GOAT its always a debate...but when you talk about the GOAT shooter no one argue...steph was the great
Hope Curry will make two consecutive FMVPs. He will be in top 5 conversation. Then Ppl will stop arguing about his legacy. Pls stay healthy and let us witness his greatness longer…
You really going to put him over Kevin Durant and lebron ? And say he is that much better ? If anything they are all equals …
@@richardwalker6004 Steph has 1 less chip and could have 1 less MVP this season with a chance at a chip in comparison with LBJs?? IF he wins a chip, and gets a FMVP then KD should not be mentioned with him and then we can argue he's equal to LBJ
@@richardwalker6004 they are taller and bigger than him. Weigh more than he does.
It’s much more challenging for Steph to do what he does than it is for them. So yeah, Steph gets a lot of credit for even getting off his shot because the defenders are bigger than him. And refs swallow the whistle when it comes to Steph. All the rules that supposedly change didn’t change for Steph. They still hand check him, push him, grab his arms so he can’t cut, routinely launch into him on his shots and the refs swallow their whistle. Yet he still makes around 40 percent of his shots consistently. That makes Steph better than them in my eyes
They use their height, build and weight to gain advantage in the game. Steph is a superstar despite his disadvantage.
Equal to LeBron?? Nah Steph still needs more work.
@@richardwalker6004 if Steph wins this MVP, and 2 more fmvps, he will almost definitely be in the top 5. It will be like MJ, Bron, Kobe/Steph, Kareem(Kareem won a lot when he wasn't in his prime. that's my knock on him tbf)
KD never had the keys at GS. The offense still went through Steph and the defense went through Dray. Wiley can’t understand this. KD was an addition that put them from champions to all time
@@dan_gotchops Easy to be that on a team like that. And KD wasn't even the person getting double teamed.
@@dan_gotchops thats why The Cavs on fastbreaks went to guard the 3pt line and let him get freeway dunks in the paint. Makes sense
Facts
@@dan_gotchops Wrong
When both players played for GS, they're record was better when Curry played and KD didn't vs When KD played and Steph didn't. That's all the proof i need.
If the Warriors indeed win the 🏆 this year thats Steph's 4th rings, MVPs with the 3pt record and still counting its no question. Steph is so feared that defenses have to meet him beyond the three with multiple players at times.
He doesn’t have a finals mvp though.
@@BijinMCMXC we all know 2015 and 2018 were Curry's years but media voters wanted to give Lebron a compliment even when he lost those series... this what they Labled the reasons for the wins
Iggy won it for defending Lebron
KD wins for shooting over Lebron
@@isaacdebeila8085 kd was the best player on the court in both of those finals and when he played for 5 min against the raptors
Uh no
@@danielburdisso1483 he averaged 28 10 8 and took over every 4th tf u mean uh no
NBA coachs' game plan against warriors:" just box in Steph wherever he runs and let the others beat us" 😂
King curry now 🏆!!!!
Ray Allen is a all time great. He’s arguably better then any clippers player ever. Specialist lol
Not better than Kawhi
@@17thNO Or CP3
@@telmolicious That case could be made
@CST Ray Allen isn't better then CP3???? Yeah you lost it
@@khalidmuhammad1151 U never had it.
Idk I watched the nba like crazy in the 90s in 48, and Jordan was 6’6 and played like a giant - those step back 2 pointers he could just creat out of nowhere I’d still pound for pound take MJ but Steph is awesome.
Same
Wiley bringing up the KD diss on air on the same network 💀☠️☠️ 😆😂
Amen brother!!!
Ray Allen is a top 75 player, how is that not All Time great? 😂😂😂😂
Honestly..ray allen should not be in the top 75..but ray is quite lucky in his career..no major injuries..played with some of the greatest players..but really..this top 75 all time..is just to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the nba..to give it some meaning or significance...some of those names might be an embarrassment down the years..say..players like AD and dame..what if they suffered some career ending injury next season..what i mean is that some names were just included to fill the roster although not yet deserving..
Wild when MJ was playen nobody was racking up rings and mvps like Steph is with LeBron.
Amen thank you
Here we gooooo......
The best player ever and shooter ever is from North Carolina. Shout out to the dirt South.
I dont wanna use the term best NBA player of all time but perhaps the most electrifying player of all time. Outside of Jordan you never seen home teams cheer steph once he gets the ball lol and lets be real Curry is probably the most fun player to watch of all time as well.
Great take sir finally. Steph curry is not a shooter only. He is a basketball player a one of kind player period, handles,floaters,handles, floaters,e.t.c
Brilliant and engaging, well done guys!!
“Arguably”…there is no real argument, MJ is the GOAT.
FACTS
Steph is the greatest player of all time when a team rather give up a lay-up first before they let him shoot the 3 is crazy
Great conversation guys!
I agree with you totally.
Ray Allen was NOT just a 3pt shooter, in his prime Ray was a top 10 NBA player and perennial all star!
In this Modern NBA, Jordan, Kobe and Iverson would AVERAGE 40PPG. Defense is LAUGHABLE at best.
facts!
Blame the refs ….
@@jgard1168 its not the ref, its adam silver
Ratioooo old head
biggest load of trash i ever heard.... Jordan played in an era defenses were forced to 1 on 1 coverage and would be a foul if help defense comes without committing at the start of offense only thing that helped defense was hand-checking...
after hand checking was done in the NBA brought in help defense which we call zone defense now... only 2 players have dominated the foul line and thats Harden and Trea Young, every other player didnt get that much help from fouls that it changed their game and legacy...
as for Kobe he played in both the Hand Check and the new era rule and we all saw his career from start to finish... as for Jordan he had a taste of it when he played for the Wizards or Hornets before retired and he got close but it came at the cost of the team winning
I agree! Thank you for giving steph what he deserves. Hes the best but his haters still trying to keep him down. You cant stop greatness!
We don't paly defense Michael Jordan paly defense
Solid points
I thought Acho was gonna be metaphorical-but he was talking literally pound for pound 😂
But for real, he changed the game like very few before him. He literally makes everyone around him better. Dude’s got contracts cuz he made them look so good. Everybody gets better at shooting around him, everybody on his team plays their hearts out for him. He’s a leader, a great human, and one of the few people in the world that is undebatable. I honestly feel like we got cheated out of a few years of his greatness because of KD
he wouldn’t have gotten those two championships without KD
@@luisnavarro5298 that's a maybe. first they win chip without KD(not GSW fault kyrie and love is hurt). second trading is hot in gsw after the finals loss so they will find a great player. and if they dont find any, gsw is still a contender. they are the only team who can beat lebron team. I will not add kyrie leaving.
@@luisnavarro5298 if not for the refs Cavs would have lost that series
People like to ignore the stimulus package. There is a reason Lebron got rid of Draymond
Game 5 would have been ours
@@luisnavarro5298 debatable. He already had one without KD, we don’t know that he wouldn’t have gotten any more. However-we DO know KD wouldn’t have gotten any without Steph, and likely never will.
@@az001m 💯
"KD took the keys" Nah Wiley KD came to "STEPH'S" city and Steph let him be the guy even if the fans never thought KD was
Everyone knew KD had the keys and was the guy.
@@SShaBazzz that’s why curry was getting the mvp chants??? Lmfaoooo the only time kd got mvp chant was after he won in the finals, every other game it was curry that’s what’s real
@@diplexplays who cares about MVP chants. People gave Derrick Rose MVP chants last year cause he had one 50pt game. You tryna argue off popularity. Stop it with this comment you just made.
those two guys are great
VIVA long live the indisputable greatest player ever play the game of Basketball; Steph Curry! facts.
I get what's being said but when I hear "player" I think of this. We need a bucket, a key rebound, an assist, a defensive stop (position 1 through 5). You're not gonna ask for all of those from curry. He's unbelievable obviously. But when you say player you need to include all aspects of the game and there are only a few players you would take to get you those key things
The reality is that the most important thing is scoring more than your opponent: Some do it with defense others with rebounds, Steph does it by being 1 of the most efficient scorers of all time while being the most impacfull offensive player of all time in a 5v5 game of Basketball.
What gives you a better chance of winning? A superstar thats a jack of all trades but not amazing at anything(Like Paul George) or a superstar thats the best ever at something and then building a team to hide his weaknesses and potentiate his strengths.
Like i said, you can argue Paul George doesnt have a weakness in building a team around Curry has a ceiling twice as high. To me that makes you a better player.
You know...I give Acho a lot of credit, then he goes and screws it up. Stop reaching Acho. We all see you.
Steph is fun to watch😎 🏀 💪🏽🙏🏽
Achoo you on point bro. Love your analysis.
The epitome of "Prisoner of the Moment"
Not at all
He Deff is
Pound for pound I agree..would LeBron be such a force at 6'2..? I don't think so
I took a second To read the title and clicked Rt off😭
It’s beyond a joke
Dwyane Wade is the most selfless superstar the NBA has ever seen
The bro in the blue and yellow spittin thruth
I dunno, that Wilt guy was pretty good. And some cat named Jordan.
Sounds like hate to me kd didn’t win wit westbrick or an harden actually he never won nothing with out curry
Not a fair statement because kyrie only won the first one because lebron had lost kyrie and love due to injuries...but it's kinda funny that kd was the finals MVP both years
@@hysenur8223 Injuries are part of the game. We hear the Kyrie and Love injury thing a lot. Though it's more recent, people hardly ever talk about the Warriors' injuries in the Finals against Toronto. The reason is because we KNOW the Warriors were going to win that championship if not for injuries to key players, so no one talks about it. We don't know that with help from Kyie and Love Cleaveland would have beaten the Warriors. It's pure speculation so it still gets a lot of chatter.
He don't play no defense Michael Jordan playing defense
Steph Curry is the MVP and a Legend. Warriors gona win the championship and Steph will be the finals MVP in 2022
He is in the conversation......for sure
This is by far the best talk show I’ve ever seen about sports
I love Steph, but 215 is pushing it, he'd be lucky to be 200 pounds rn 😅
Truth
I was to comment this im pretty sure he is about 190 on average.
This dude is spitting straight fax
100% agree he is the greatest basketball player EVER! long live the 3 point god
When it comes to 3 pointers Ray Allen is an all time great. He has 2 rings and played a major part on those championship teams, made some clutch game clinching shots.
This is my new argument he’s a little better than Ray Allen
@@versewonderstrikes5353 rat never lead the team to the chip stop the denial lol
@@Lifewithkwame1 When did Steph do that? He had no finals MVP’s. I’ll wait 😂😂😂👀👀
@@versewonderstrikes5353 Exactly and its highly questionable if he wouldve even gotten the second and third ring yet without them having recruited Durant
@@versewonderstrikes5353 you’re such an idiot… Steph didn’t lead in 2015? The same Steph who put up 26 6 and 5 in the finals. ? The back to back MVP? He wasn’t the leader of the team?
Idk because the difference between Iverson size and Curry’s size is the same as Curry’s size and Jordan’s size. And I think think the skill gap between Curry and Jordan is bigger than the gap is between Curry and Iverson. So I still think Iverson is the best pound for pound.
Steph is 6'3 I'm tired y'all talking bout he small. AI is small, kemba,. N other guards r small. N we seen Steph struggle against physical and. But he a bad man
Iverson who only won 1 MVP? And lost the obly finals appearance he had? Atleast he won that 1 game though
Acho and Wiley look like characters from the hunger games
Acho for President!
Curry got the range and handle. Both Allen and Miller are catch and shoot 3 point shooter. But curry can create his own shots. And his range is half court and effortless doing it.
You must never saw Ray Allen play...Ray Allen was a scorer that played above the rim
@@jakeequality8065 we talking about shooting. Not dunking. I never saw Allen but I saw big Nate Thurmond play 🤣😂 Allen is a shooter. Catch and shoot but no handle to create his own 3 points shot while double team. But curry can. Haters will be haters. 😂
@@pgdog888 You claimed Ray Allen didn't create shots and you were wrong
@@pgdog888 You doubled down on your lack of info😁😁😁😁Ray Allen was better at creating shots than Curry is
@@jakeequality8065 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Joke of the day. Thanks for the laughter. 😂🤣
KD never won a title without Curry...no title yet without him.
He is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great !!!! WOW.....The greatest ....AND I am a LEBRON fan....BUT Curry got His Balls in place !!!!! YES HE IS A SUPERSTAR !!!! GB
What happens if Steph pops off and jokes around and ends up being the all time leader in points 😂
thats if Kerr left him when his hot and blowing out teams
Lol would be cool but he won't last long enough to do
Fam cut it out. Steph averages like 24 points for his career. Bron averages 27 and is struggling to beat the record, and you think a guy who averages 3 points fewer over the span of his career will beat it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 y’all casual fans make me laugh man.
@@thefrostyvette876 😂😂😂
@@thefrostyvette876 it was a hypothetical yah moronzzz casual fan smh 🤦♂️ lol
Does Wiley really think kd couldve went to gs without stephs approval? lol
@Nami Yaro
KD won two chips for GSW's. That's why Steph and Draymond cried and begged him to join them. Steph has no fmvps, but get the credit. Ok!!
@@darrellmitchell5400 wheres kds rings without steph?
@@bobbys9232
Steph, and his admirers should be thanking KD for 2 of "Steph's" rings, instead of criticizing him. Steph and KD will both go down as one of the greatest. I'm not a fanboy, nor admirer of either of them. Just stating facts!!!!
@@darrellmitchell5400 kd blew a 3-1 lead is what you meant to say. But keep making up stories about people crying buddy. OK!!! smh
@@darrellmitchell5400 and everyone knows steph deserved two of those fmvps but if you wanna argue that, thats cool too
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Curry is the only player under 6’6 in the top 15
Curry G.O.A.T. on 3's!
Steph is great but Acho has LOST his mind calling him the best player of all time. Its MJ and that will never change.
Do you listen to when he said pound for pound?
What do you mean, it will never change? Joe Montana was the greatest football QB until Tom Brady came along.
There is no set criteria, it's subjective, determining who's the greatest basketball player of all time will always be a matter of opinion.
Pound for pound.
Fax
The two most intelligent analysts in the game sitting across from each other daily
Didn't watch - pound for pound MJ was and still is the greatest to play basketball. 5 on 5 or 1 on 1, MJ is a better offensive and defensive player, he's more athletic and more aggressive. I'm from Charlotte, love Steph, but he's not in MIKE'S class...but then again, no one is!
He's the most feared nba player ever along with klay duo
id say curry is the greatest playter to fit in a system. definitely has influence,
Curry had 4 chances to win Finals MVP and never did. STOP
He got robbed in 15 and 18 was very close. Just stop.
@@bobt9705 Thats your opinion. Fact is he has 4 Finals appearances and 0 Finals MVPS.
Curry was selfless and play for team specially during finals. So it’s all about our prospective.
@@gonpo5611 i have no clue what you just said and point you are trying to make.
@@AdamBCane I am trying to say , Curry can have at least two final MVP if he wants but he has been selfless and always care about team’s objective rather than personal glorification.
When you have no real debate find something ridiculous to talk about.
That mane in the blue is smart man & I agree with em this time
Prisoner of the moment
If the name isn't Michael Jordan we aren't talking about the best.
Look Folks , Acho is out of his mind . Curry has plenty of shooting records and is the GOAT shooter Of All Time clearly . He is the only Unanimous MVP . He is the 3 ball Scoring King . But the Greatest Impactful Basketball Player Of All Time ? Uh , not so fast . He is not even close . He has struggled on Defense for most of his NBA career , and is not an All Defensive Player .
Curry has excelled in the Jordan , Kobe Shaq Triangle system that Steve Kerr played in , and learned from Phil Jackson that Kerr has implemented as the Warriors system since 2015 . That 2016 / 73 - 9 Warriors team was no fluke . Curry would struggle in a primarily ISO ball system that Lebron or KD prefer and have ran most of their NBA careers . Curry has never won a Finals MVP and never will . They don't give that award out to only offensive players . That award goes to the Most Impactful TWO WAY Player in the Finals about 99 percent of the time in the last 40 years . Look at the names folks . All really good 2 way players .
2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 Billups
2005 Duncan
2006 Wade
2007 Parker
2008 Pierce
2009 Kobe
2010 Kobe
2011 Nowitzky
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Kawhi
2015 Iguadala
2016 Lebron
2017 KD
2018 KD
2019 Kawhi
2020 Lebron
2021 Giannis
Lebron James is clearly the Greatest Impactful Basketball Player ever . He has or will have Iconic records that are unheard of , unparalleled , unmatched .
Lebron has 4 Unanimous Finals MVPs for 3 teams , in the West or East , within 2 seasons each , with four different 15 man rosters , and four different Non HOF Coaching Staffs . He beat the Greatest Regular Season team down 3 - 1 against the 73 - 9 Warriors in the 2016 Finals with a Rookie Head Coach Ty Lue , and mostly role player team mates .
Lebron will be the Scoring King in the Regular Season , and Playoffs individually by next season .
Lebron will be the ONLY Pro World Sports player ever to have statues and his number retired for 3 teams .
Joined one of the worst teams in NBA history from 2011 - 2014 in 2015 . Made personal GM moves for key players . Then made the Finals from 2015 - 2018 four times in a row . The Greatest team turnaround in NBA history .
Lebron traded his older Cavs team mates mid season in 2018 for younger unproven Players from a losing Lakers team , developed them to Championship form , and STILL made the 2018 Finals.
Went to the Finals 4 seasons in a row twice with 2 teams in an 8 year period .
Will be the only Player in NBA history to be Top 10 in 3s made in the a Regular Season , Playoffs , and Finals when he retires , that has played and defended any 5 positions .
Lebron is the only NBA player ever to be unofficially a Player / Head Coach / GM / Player Evaluator / Player Recruiter / Player Developer / Game Planner for 3 teams .
These are just SOME of Lebron's GOAT Records .
Retired by 3 teams?? What has he done to have the Lakers retire his jersey?? The Cavs I get and the Heat sure but the Lakers?? I am not sure about that one.
Also LeBron hasn't really changed anything in the game of basket ball except maybe how to Flop. Curry changed the dynamic where teams use the 3 ball more than ever. Not much teams post up anymore as the go to strategy. But he is more efficient than others and that's where he is in a league of his own. LeBron hasn't changed the dynamics of the game. He is 2k Magic just a bit stronger ,3 inches taller and less flashier of a passer. He isn't as great a passer as Magic though.
@@DamianAntonio4126 If Lebron breaks the Scoring King record passing Kareem and gets another Ring or two with the Lakers as their best player ? He will get a statue .
@@DamianAntonio4126 Bwahahahahaha Lebron hasn't changed the NBA Game ? Absolute nonsense . Curry plays in a system . Lebron IS the system for 3 teams so far . Without Lebron's system and play in place ? A team is hopeless from top to bottom . Curry doesn't bring that kind of impact . We saw what happened with the 2011 - 2014 Cavs without Lebron ok Bwahahaha. A pathetic mess with Kyrie leading that team . I would believe the Warriors would be a Playoff team without Curry . in 2015 Lebron returns to the Cavs , and they make the Finals ? Who does that ? There will NEVER be another Lebron James that literally can go to any team regardless of any situation , and make it a Ring chaser over night . Jordan , Kobe , Curry have been copied already pretty well . Curry isn't as unique as we would believe . Guys are studying / copying his game every day in College and the NBA , implementing his ball handling moves and shooting style into their games . Nobody ever has had the size or game to copy Lebron . Ler. Has plaued amd fdefende any 5 positons conpero g sof r Scoro g atirles amVPs and Championships aa rhe NBAs Best player for years . Uh yeah he hasn't changed the game ? Yeah sure .
If anyone on Planet Earth can name a player EVER that has copied or changed the game like Lebron has creating 3 teams in his image , improving the expectations of being Championship level in all aspects of an organization as a player and management consultant ? That person is George Washington himself hahahaha This a guy Lebron that had non College Career ok. He was thrown to the wolves in the NBA on day one , and has excelled like no other . .
Name a player ever that has been considered the Best player in the NBA every season for at least 95 percent of his career so far , has been a Player / Head Coach / GM / Player Evaluator / Player Recruiter / Player Developer / Game Planner for 3 Championship Caliber teams within 2 seasons each , that he has constructed personally .
Name a player ever that can have the Power to trade half of his team mid season if his team isn't playing to Championship levels . No player ever has had that Power , Clout , or Impact over one organization , let alone THREE . No player ever has or ever will either . What Lebron has done to change the NBA is unheard of , unparalleled and has never been done or copied . That's what separates him from other NBA greats .That's what makes his impact on the NBA as marvelous or more than Curry's .
Just put curry in the hall of fame already
He is a Hall of Famer already.
Somebody put some bread on achos books cause he is a prisoner of the moment
Steph had an ankle injury in his first 3 years in the league Wiley speaking facts I’m very impressed.
Wiley don’t know ray lol he wasn’t just a specialist
*POUND FOR POUND.*
I'm with this guy. Steph curry is the best of all time
"People always think I'm a hater because I tell the truth too early"...Wiley got bars
AI pound for pound
Facts
Respectfully I’ll take Curry over AI. Curry is a bigger offensive threat and way more efficient.
@@jasonross2439 i feel you but "pound for pound " its AI
@@datboired832 I respect that
Ai
Y'all are crazy. Last time i checked, defense plays into the equation. Steph is no doubt the greatest shooter ever but is and always was a defensive liability.. if I'm talking about being the pound-for-pound best basketball player ever, that goes to Kobe or MJ. They were dominant on both sides of the ball..people seem to forget this
Defense of an individual is 20% of the game in a 5v5 game.
Is true that Curry is not a great defender but that doesnt mean you can abuse him every play, you can build a defense in which his defense creates a missmatch for his team just 5 or 10 plays per game. On the other hand his offense is the most impactfull weapon of all time even over Jordan or Kobe. That makes things a bit more even.
Great warriors 👏👏👏👏👏
Steph can trade buckets with the greats but he cant defend noone. Hes the best shooter. Thats it. Thats enough tho.
Considering the amount of threes he's hit, I was thoroughly surprised to see him only a #75 in career points. He is closing in on #50 in assists and steals. It's crazy how much he outputs that he isn't higher up on those lists.
I agree 👍 but he sits out entire 4 th when he is 🔥 he doesn't not pad stats like other stars
Because he suffered alot of injuries earlier in his career. He started to go off in 2013 and hasn't looked back.
YESSSIRRRR
Well put, "He was already better than this award except now we gotta celebrate it"