@@saifukh Michealsoft Binbows was actually a used computer shop in Japan. The video in question is titled '"MICHAELSOFT BINBOWS" isn't what you think it is' from channel "Nick Robinson".
Eh, it's not like you could install any DOS-based system... actually, not even 2000 on any "relatively modern" Intel CPU. I'm not even sure Coffee Lake runs XP.
This is what adding insult to injury looks like. Love it. And the ridiculous amount of effort to get it done, condensed in 18 minutes... you have some perseverance!
The black bezels are curved at the bottom, it has a thick chin and the display is little less wider cuz the display is of a 16:10 aspect ratio unlike the later iMacs which have aspect ratio of 16:9 Edit: The back of it is composed of black plastic and not aluminum unlike the later iMacs.
Retail versions of Windows ME were "expansion" or "upgrade" disks for Windows 98. The version you have (the non-bootable kind) were meant to upgrade from windows 95/98 to Windows ME. They had the full install on them, but were not meant to be used as a clean install CD.
"The CD driver didn't detect the CD drive, which I honestly somewhat expected." That is a sentence. That is definitely a sentence. _(edited on 2/9/2021 to correct a misquote)_
Everytime I get a MattKC upload notification on my phone I immediately drop everything I'm doing to watch it. This has already resulted in me crashing 2 cars and ditching half way through an important job interview #noregrets
You could probably take the PCI-E slot that holds the AirPort card and adapt it to a full slot to plug in a USB controller that actually has drivers for 9x. It's also possible that if your model has a discrete GPU, it _might_ be replaceable with a different card that supports 9x. I'm not sure what socket it's using, but looking at ifixit's teardown, they mention it might be standard.
@@phs125 ok so XP to binary is 01011000 01010000 and convert that to decimal And you get 88 80 so XP is 168 if you add them together or 7040 if you multiply
"This thing is so reflective I could probably do a makeup tutorial on it" You know we need it, Matt. Also, did you know Microsoft actually intended it to be pronounced 'Me' (1 word) rather than 'Em-Ee'? Yeah, neither did 90% of Me users.
Lock was not part of MS-DOS 6.x, but it was part of DOS 7 (Win95/98) and DOS 8 (WinMe) to help protect long file names. You would typically just type "lock c:" thought to allow those "risky operations".
so, adding a bit here. WIndows uses int13h in real mode to access the HDD. msconfig can force that (it's Force ocompatibility mode disk access) which might be making the difference TBH. PS/2 devices are emulated through the use of System Management Mode, and as long as something is polling the fake PS/2 port, it should still be sending events. Modular Windows (aka SETUP.EXE) is likely also using 32-bit disk access which is why that's falling over as well. Dunno if you tried that, but if I had an iMac, I'd poke this. Apple's BIOS compatibility was pretty garbage all around, it was just enough to start NTLDR, and I remember GRUB had to patch some things to make Linux work on Macs.
It's getting dark. I'm laying comfortably in my bed watching you install ME on an iMac and then... I'm almost getting a heart attack as I think there is someone standing right behind me. Turns out it was your reflection on the iMac screen all the time... thanks.
My instinct would be to check if (1) drivers for older Nvidia devices might work and (2) see if anyone has made a universal driver. Then, if I was really dedicated, I might try to find a USB to keyboard PS/2 active adapter that worked with Windows ME. And then try actually using a PS/2 keyboard or mouse, depending on which was available. Also could try a USB COM port adapter. (I'm assuming you messed around with the Kernelex settings to try and get it to think that it was Windows 2000.)
Could the other way to run a VM off of iMac without using a firewire/thunderbolt port be using qemu on some kind of linux on usb drive, and passthrough iMac hardware in?
Ah, i remember my highschool. Intel iMacs G5 512MB RAM with installed Linux Mint on which was running Virtual Machine with Windows XP. Brilliant user experience
It's like watching an episode of House MD minus the drama. Basically, a man trying to solve an obsucre, rare problem that will never occur to anyone in the audience.
This reminds me of a project where I worked to get Warframe to boot on my MacBook just to see if it would. Granted, it only ran at like 10fps, but did technically work.
well 2:03 i nfact if you install win 10 on an Hard drive, swap that HardRive inside the mac, it should boot windows, granted there is no driver support but it boots... So if you just dd if=/WindowsHDD/ of=/MacOsHDD/ you can get windows on your mac Whitout actually swapping any hard drive. Aditionally you can dd if=/MacosHDD/ of=/Externalhdd/ | and proceed to Boot MacOS in a Virtual Machine from any other Machine/OS
I had this issue multiple times with many different windows versions. My system installation ran in to all sorts of problems when i had any external flash or hard drive connected. Funny that you had this issue here.
@@auto1lija Yeah it is. It's truly far less stable than Windows 98 ever was (and Windows 9x was already an unstable mess compared to Windows NT) and the few new features it included, such as Windows Movie Maker and System Restore, just weren't enough to justify using it over Windows 98. All the other "new" features of Windows Me such as Internet Explorer 5.5 and Windows Media Player 7 were released for Windows 98 anyway via Windows Update. Windows Me had a very short development time and was intended as a quick stop-gap release between Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows XP for home users and that much is fairly obvious.
@@auto1lija It is true that computer manufacturers are partly to blame due to them not writing drivers specifically for Windows Me, however Microsoft still did not test Windows Me nearly as much as they did all previous, and future, versions of Windows. As I mentioned before, Windows Me only had a very short development time of about a year from start to finish - that's including the time to beta test it, and it was only intended as a short stop-gap between Windows 98 and Windows XP for home users. Because Windows Me was essentially just Windows 98 Third Edition, and it removed more than it added (real-mode DOS support being the biggest example) and often ran slower than Windows 98, most users just stuck with Windows 98 and those who bought a new computer with Windows Me pre-installed usually just installed Windows 98 on their computer anyway so they could use games and applications that required real-mode DOS.
People often tell you to "pick your battles". Matt is the kind of person to pick battles nobody else would even think of.
True
its still an upgrade...
he's like, come up with the battles you want to pick for
then pick *all of them*
DougDoug's slogan comes to mind: "Hey this is DougDoug, where we solve problems no one has" LOL
Next thing we know is that Matt wil be running 8K 360fps VR on a 60 year old machine with Windows NT
0:28 whoa… i wonder where that is
I loved the video you made on it :)
Your video was absolutely incredible as always
Wait, did you just randomly stumble across this video? That's pretty wild, anyways see ya on twitch!
OK... You were here. And yes, it is from Japan.
Thank you for the McDonald's training ROM
Nice one, dude
hi enderman
I agree. Really good video.
hello
Didn't expect to find you here!
yes.
That thumbnail is just cursed.
What are you doing here salboi?
wth u doing here sal
3rd reply
⠀
Nani uwu
can't wait for part 2, windows 2000 on a imac
+1, Windows 2000 can work on Firefox 52 ESR, perfectly browsing at all HTML5 pages stuff
@@Jenci HTML5 on windows 2000 sounds fun.
@@AbdAbdAbdAbd Yup, it's supported TLS 1.2 already on Firefox 52 ESR. Everything websites are fully functional working.
How long until "Installing Windows 7 on a PS2"
The best version of windows me on a imac
The Michealsoft Binbows joke at 0:28 hits different after the Nick Robinson video.
can you explain? I'm not sure what you're talking about
@@saifukh ua-cam.com/video/yDzAAjzbV5g/v-deo.html this video should explain it
Gave you the 100th like for how relatable this is
@@saifukh Michealsoft Binbows was actually a used computer shop in Japan. The video in question is titled '"MICHAELSOFT BINBOWS" isn't what you think it is' from channel "Nick Robinson".
And Steve isn' angry, he's laughing his ass off, and more likely to be angry at apple's engineers than you.
Hahahhahhahaah
hes dead
@@Simulation101YT he meant from heaven
@@bokexd3173 Oh
Eh, it's not like you could install any DOS-based system... actually, not even 2000 on any "relatively modern" Intel CPU. I'm not even sure Coffee Lake runs XP.
This is what adding insult to injury looks like.
Love it.
And the ridiculous amount of effort to get it done, condensed in 18 minutes... you have some perseverance!
I love the druaga1 reference and I'm just gonna say if you have seen a 2007 imac in person you can easily tell it apart!
the difference to me is like i cant even say anything different
The black bezels are curved at the bottom, it has a thick chin and the display is little less wider cuz the display is of a 16:10 aspect ratio unlike the later iMacs which have aspect ratio of 16:9
Edit: The back of it is composed of black plastic and not aluminum unlike the later iMacs.
I knew it wasn't just me tripping!
Really glad that I wasn’t the only one
Retail versions of Windows ME were "expansion" or "upgrade" disks for Windows 98. The version you have (the non-bootable kind) were meant to upgrade from windows 95/98 to Windows ME. They had the full install on them, but were not meant to be used as a clean install CD.
What a completely pointless waste of time... I loved it.
Time traveler
@@UCWjF-rlGGWBHxEPLGJXZBoA It's called being a patron
Wtf it’s a time traveler
What the actual weather
don't you call others mistakes a waste of time 😳
him popping into frame at 3:40 scared the crap out of me, i thought there was someone behind me lmaooo
1. Help
Next up: I Installed the xbox firmware on a nintendo ds
Lol
The dsi can run windows 95. Technically.
@@gp3328 in dosbox right? or some other pc emulator?
@@linkthehero1234 no, make a custom rom and install for the arm cpu
@@gp3328 hmm interesting can you send me a link
I love these videos so much. I appreciate how you don’t just show the results, but you also show the entire process.
"The CD driver didn't detect the CD drive, which I honestly somewhat expected."
That is a sentence. That is definitely a sentence.
_(edited on 2/9/2021 to correct a misquote)_
"The CD drive _r_ ", not CD drive twice
-thanks YT formatting for not working if next to other characters-
@@TheNathannator Wow, you're right. Somehow I totally heard "drive" twice. My mistake.
The sentence didn't detect the sentence
@@HeadsetGuy I would just make a quick edit to the comment if I were you. 🙂
@@typodoeseverything Just did.
EDIT: Nice username. Very appropriate.
I keep nodding my head at MattKc videos. Brings back the memories of old os models and gives me the sheer joy of seeing why anyone would do this.
At 5:47 I somehow read "BALLACHE" instead of "LBACACHE" and that describes this whole procedure pretty accurately.
I have never heard the term ballache but even then ballache has been burnt into my vocabulary
...thanks, now I'll never be able to unsee the word BALLACHE
this comment gives me ballache
I mean, describes using Windows Me too.
nutz
“This thing is so reflective I could probably do a makeup tutorial on it” *flashbacks to ultimate Windows 98 PC part 1*
WAIT THATS NOT ROYALTY-FREE
Microsoft: This is fine
Apple: Unable to open software, please upgrade to macOS Big Sur
That Mac can’t run big sur because it’s a older Mac
@Stranger you don’t know then i will too, lol
@@samuel-wankenobi That's the joke.
@@samuel-wankenobi r/woosh
open it? it wont even install it from the appstore lol
6:18 That's partially correct. MS-DOS 7 sits underneath Windows 95 and 98, while ME uses MS-DOS 8.
Can't wait for another year of MattKC! Your videos always bring me a smile!
This vid is 3 years old but I enjoyed it immensely! Subbed 😊
Everytime I get a MattKC upload notification on my phone I immediately drop everything I'm doing to watch it. This has already resulted in me crashing 2 cars and ditching half way through an important job interview #noregrets
"So dude what computer do you use?"
"iMac Millenium Edition"
You could probably take the PCI-E slot that holds the AirPort card and adapt it to a full slot to plug in a USB controller that actually has drivers for 9x. It's also possible that if your model has a discrete GPU, it _might_ be replaceable with a different card that supports 9x. I'm not sure what socket it's using, but looking at ifixit's teardown, they mention it might be standard.
It's MXM
Hell yeah, I was waiting for a new video.
Thank you 🙏
2:55 *3D Objects, seems legit*
lmao hello beppe
@@extremegrief1525 hi
“Something you’ve probably been screaming at me through the screen”
No, I only understand roughly 5% of what you’re saying and I love it
HAHA exactly...
I was like "Linux? That's Ubuntu! Linux is for PS2s!"
16:38 Oh, that graph! I nearly chocked from laughing when i saw it=))
Where would you put XP in it tho?
@@phs125 ok so XP to binary is 01011000 01010000 and convert that to decimal
And you get 88 80 so
XP is 168 if you add them together or 7040 if you multiply
I remember ME being unstable and wonky back in the day. Made XP look all that much better.
"The CD drive didn't detect the CD drive." Yeah I don't think that's a good signal.
the first "drive" is actually "driver" if you listen closer.
@@interlamer7480 calla peruano
"This thing is so reflective I could probably do a makeup tutorial on it"
You know we need it, Matt.
Also, did you know Microsoft actually intended it to be pronounced 'Me' (1 word) rather than 'Em-Ee'? Yeah, neither did 90% of Me users.
So my "incorrect" pronunciation of Windows Me when I was a kid was correct this whole time?
windows: seems like this app won’t work, but we can run it in windows XP mode to fix it
apple: this app won’t work. ever. don’t even try.
me: smashes the mac brutally using a hydrant
apple: ...
The macOS experience goes from "Dang, this is smooth" to B I T E M E. No in-between.
Lock was not part of MS-DOS 6.x, but it was part of DOS 7 (Win95/98) and DOS 8 (WinMe) to help protect long file names. You would typically just type "lock c:" thought to allow those "risky operations".
I love it dude! Seems like your audio quality has improved?
22 hours ago?
@@davidhanshorts video must've been uploaded a while ago for patrons or something
Blue yeti I think, and he might have switched editors
@@lolcat yep, check the description
"Support on patreon to get videos like this early"
When I was a kid my brothers and I got my dad's old computer, running windows ME. So many good memories.
6:34 "Congrulations!" I can't tell if this is chingrish or not but either way it's hilarious
0:12 that was hilarious
MattKC videos are what I live for nowadays
3:00 3D OBJECTS!?!?!!!?!?!
1:21 RIP Steve Jobs.
2:30 BEST STARTUP SOUND!
I’ve never clicked a notification so fast in my life
What’s that on your hands?
@@pedrohenrriquesantos4836 uhhhh that’s classified
@@pedrohenrriquesantos4836 oh and that’s a stock image btw it’s not my hand
Polarization filter for the camera lens will help eliminate reflections
I see you still have that NSYNCified Windows 98 machine. 😂
Great video, nonetheless! Really interesting stuff, as usual!
so, adding a bit here. WIndows uses int13h in real mode to access the HDD. msconfig can force that (it's Force ocompatibility mode disk access) which might be making the difference TBH. PS/2 devices are emulated through the use of System Management Mode, and as long as something is polling the fake PS/2 port, it should still be sending events.
Modular Windows (aka SETUP.EXE) is likely also using 32-bit disk access which is why that's falling over as well. Dunno if you tried that, but if I had an iMac, I'd poke this. Apple's BIOS compatibility was pretty garbage all around, it was just enough to start NTLDR, and I remember GRUB had to patch some things to make Linux work on Macs.
7:19 Windows Mistake Edition Setup
Wait, I think I'm hearing one of those lovely keygen songs around 5:30 ... Ah, those golden years
This was great fun to watch, looking forward to more bizarre installation videos. What next: MS-DOS on your cat's neocortex?
Matt is high key a master software engineer. This is epic level shit.
It's getting dark. I'm laying comfortably in my bed watching you install ME on an iMac and then... I'm almost getting a heart attack as I think there is someone standing right behind me. Turns out it was your reflection on the iMac screen all the time... thanks.
You’re a true genius! I love your work ❤️
12:08 when you switch to light mode
Omg that screensaver!!! 👌. Such nostalgia
My instinct would be to check if (1) drivers for older Nvidia devices might work and (2) see if anyone has made a universal driver.
Then, if I was really dedicated, I might try to find a USB to keyboard PS/2 active adapter that worked with Windows ME. And then try actually using a PS/2 keyboard or mouse, depending on which was available. Also could try a USB COM port adapter.
(I'm assuming you messed around with the Kernelex settings to try and get it to think that it was Windows 2000.)
I thoroughly enjoyed this video
He makes videos like once a year but when he does. Oh boy Is it worth it lol love the videos!!
Could the other way to run a VM off of iMac without using a firewire/thunderbolt port be using qemu on some kind of linux on usb drive, and passthrough iMac hardware in?
Matt did you just think you could take a clip of the druaga1 macbook running xp without any noticing? Think again.
@@Miguel-gr9js it's a joke.....
The amount of backwards troubleshooting is amazing. It's my style
I'd like to see this attempted with Windows 2000, which is a lot closer to XP so it might have better results
this and it's not a shit OS...
dude the nostalgia hit so fucking hard when i heard Reloaded Installer #9 kick in at 5:00
Ah yes, my favorite version of MS-DOS, 7.10.
my win98 install is fucked and i use it all the time
Bless the China DOS Union
Wow, excellent video!
You could have probably used a remote desktop / VNC solution to use the machine. An old version of synergy might have worked too.
I Always watched this video and going "What in the name of Steve jobs going on here" and now I'm doing it in my repair shop every day
i’ve never heard of something so beautifuly stupid in my whole entire life
You should check druaga1, he was the pioneer on those sorts of things.
Ah, i remember my highschool. Intel iMacs G5 512MB RAM with installed Linux Mint on which was running Virtual Machine with Windows XP. Brilliant user experience
7:30 I’m gonna end this man’s whole career
He even says it’s ture
brilliant work, and its good that u show times where u failed, because thats life, no one ever always succeed
it’s not a mattkc video if there isn’t a catch somewhere
8:14 some like USB stuff is read differently i think. My ps/2 to USB adapter is detected as a bar code reader
1:29 is that the kogan rgb mechanical gaming keyboard?
I've watched this video 6 times but it's so interesting.
At 4:33, I saw a reflection of someone putting up their middle finger.
2:14 Oh My God why is the disc so BEAUTIFUL
iMacs are great, but there's always a catch.
*It can't run Microshaft Winblows*
Bruh
Never knew I'd hear that name outside of LGR.
That thing is actually a hardware store before.
@@HalfLife3onSteamPLZno thats michealsoft binbows
@@limeanimates oh, my bad. the names are way too similar for me back then.
anyways thanks for correcting me, 3 years for me still feels so distant.
I was shocked you wanted to try .... I was more shocked you stuck with it lol Loved it!
I'm surprised you didn't try putting stuff in the Autostart folder to get it to run outside of safe mode
3:28 That…. Explains a lot…. No wonder i could not boot Windows 7 off of USB with my mac.
0:54 baby gamer
0:55 Pov: the classmate who skipped a class plays video games with the rest of the class
I’m a simple person, I see MattKC notification, I click.
The perfect level of satisfaction and frustration where it works well enough to say it works but not well enough to really do anything
It's like watching an episode of House MD minus the drama. Basically, a man trying to solve an obsucre, rare problem that will never occur to anyone in the audience.
Really nostalgic seeing that Windows Millennium startup menu. It brings back a lot of memories for me.
MY COMPUTER ACTUALLY BLUESCREENED AT 3:33 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE VIDEO WHAT TYPE OF COINCIDENCE LMFAO
I come back to this video once every few months
4:09 you do the middle finger
This reminds me of a project where I worked to get Warframe to boot on my MacBook just to see if it would. Granted, it only ran at like 10fps, but did technically work.
4:09 , true, is like a mirror, that is transparent
Just have my late 2009 iMac just laying around, brilliant
well 2:03 i nfact if you install win 10 on an Hard drive, swap that HardRive inside the mac, it should boot windows, granted there is no driver support but it boots...
So if you just dd if=/WindowsHDD/ of=/MacOsHDD/ you can get windows on your mac Whitout actually swapping any hard drive.
Aditionally you can dd if=/MacosHDD/ of=/Externalhdd/ | and proceed to Boot MacOS in a Virtual Machine from any other Machine/OS
I had this issue multiple times with many different windows versions. My system installation ran in to all sorts of problems when i had any external flash or hard drive connected. Funny that you had this issue here.
AH, FINALLY A PERFECT PC FOR A HORRIBLE OPERATING SYSTEM
It isn't as horrible as people think.
@@auto1lija Yeah it is. It's truly far less stable than Windows 98 ever was (and Windows 9x was already an unstable mess compared to Windows NT) and the few new features it included, such as Windows Movie Maker and System Restore, just weren't enough to justify using it over Windows 98. All the other "new" features of Windows Me such as Internet Explorer 5.5 and Windows Media Player 7 were released for Windows 98 anyway via Windows Update. Windows Me had a very short development time and was intended as a quick stop-gap release between Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows XP for home users and that much is fairly obvious.
@@ps5hasnogames55 Nope
@@ps5hasnogames55 the marketing claim of using Windows 98 drivers was bad, because it messed up the OS badly. It's overall just a fine OS.
@@auto1lija It is true that computer manufacturers are partly to blame due to them not writing drivers specifically for Windows Me, however Microsoft still did not test Windows Me nearly as much as they did all previous, and future, versions of Windows. As I mentioned before, Windows Me only had a very short development time of about a year from start to finish - that's including the time to beta test it, and it was only intended as a short stop-gap between Windows 98 and Windows XP for home users. Because Windows Me was essentially just Windows 98 Third Edition, and it removed more than it added (real-mode DOS support being the biggest example) and often ran slower than Windows 98, most users just stuck with Windows 98 and those who bought a new computer with Windows Me pre-installed usually just installed Windows 98 on their computer anyway so they could use games and applications that required real-mode DOS.
this makes me question my existence everynight. Subscribed
Best thing to come out of windows me is it's anime character. No kidding, that exists
Fun fact: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer both had official anime girl versions of them.
@@LonelySpaceDetective windows 8 and 10 too
Yay! More MattKC!
15:28 couldn't you have done that in linux?
Congrulations!