5 Electric Fat Bikes Under $2,000 - Are they any good?
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What's your favorite FAT ebike under $2k?
I have an Aventure and enjoy it very much. It has taken me places I would never explore otherwise. Very fun on gravel desert roads. just as much fun taking it off the beaten path on really rough rock strewn paths.
Love my Aeriel Rider Kepler Step-thru, I live on a mountain in a tiny town in the Berkshires, it's 12 miles to a quart of milk and even with 20 AH of battery I can barely make the round trip using lots of pedal assist and hauling 40 lbs of groceries home....and no 750W motor is going to get up MY steeps!
Area 13 Blackbird!!
the kepler, for only $1699 with their extra $100 off discount for teachers/students/veterans/first responders (EMS/Police/Fireman), being a student, and getting it for only $1699 by far, the best bike, especially with the speed and power!
MagiCycle Cruiser Pro is an phenomenal electric bike for under $2K however if you get two 52 volts 20 amp hours batteries then it will cost about $2,400. I’m honestly surprised that it’s not on the list.
Appreciate the health update. Was about to ask. I have a chronic disease since teen years. I understand the challenges. You are taking the right approach. Do what you can. Just dont give up. The journey has definiteely been a humbling and character building experience for me.
It’s nice to see you, VERY NICE VIDEO. I hope you can do more of them. Sitting down and looking comfortable is a good thing. You do a good job on videos. 🙏🙏
NOT going to lie. Even at $2500 MSRP I’d pick the area 13 bike over any of the others. I will forever kick myself for getting an Aventon over this bike. Granted that says a lot because I absolutely love my Aventon and wouldn’t ever say don’t buy it but considering the sale you are running especially I’d go with yours! Hope you start making a recovery again soon!
I'm with you 💯 %
Kyle. Glad to see you in a video hope your health continues in the right direction. Looking forward to the delivery of my third blackbird. The step through. By the way Jory says I bought the first one. 🎉 Keep getting better. Área 13 rocks.
My wife & I just picked up a Blackbird & an Aventon Aventure from you guys about a month ago. They are both amazing ebikes, and we are definitely enjoying them! So far, they both appear to be very high quality, but the Blackbird definitely wins on power, the torque sensor, and the brakes. Other components are likely better quality also, but those 3 just mentioned are definitely immediately noticeable when riding & comparing the two bikes. Overall, we love them both and the fat tires soak up a lot of the bumpy roads & trails around Nevada City CA. Super excited to continue testing them out, and we will plan to do a full review video soon!
I hope to see them both on your channel!
@@Area13ebikes You definitely will! These bikes will be coming on our adventures from now on. If we get any epic drone footage with the bikes, I'll happily share the footage with you.
Hope you feel better soon. I always appreciate you sharing your knowledge. .. I recently picked up 2 magicycle cruisers. definitely could be on the list. good prices, comes with a lot of extras for free. I especially like that i can adjust the pedal assist percentages to find levels that work for me and my wife. the Kepler was on too much of a back order and didn't want to wait.
Hope you feel better. Thank you for your informative videos. Honestly the confidence in your Blackbird bike is the best selling point. The other stuff is just a bonus.
I wanted a ebike 4 years ago and eat slept and dreamed of owning one. The least expensive then was around 5k. That ment never a option for a average guy like me. I stopped watching ebike videos for years but just stumbled across your channel and have to say well done. It's nice to see they are getting into a price point I could afford one day. Cant wait to try one out someday. Anyhow great job on the video and pray you continue to get well. Blessings.
You make a great point...these are E-BIKES, not e-motorcycles. They are meant to be pedaled. The cheap SIS and Tourney 14-28 (with freewheel) driveline add resistance to efficient operation (range) and lower life span. The SRAM 9-speed is worlds above. Also, so many videos about "throttle-only" 0-40 mph on e-bikes. Very few talk about (40 mph-0) stopping power. Your Dorado 4-piston Tecktro again nails it! Plus, having an adjustable stem means that the CABLES are the correct length from the factory. That can be an issue if swapped after delivery. The bike's COMPONENT specs matter, and will lead to long-term happy riders. I also predict that the 26x4 market will fall to $1499 by next season. Too many Direct-Sale vendors with the same overall cruiser bikes right now (All at $1999...???) trying to capture the U.S. Senior Boomer Market share. Mostly made in 3-4 Chinese factories with unique brand stickers applied over the same base-level components. Thanks for offering a higher-quality build choice!
Not an US based follower, but congrats on doing something better with Blackbird. Hopefully it'll lead to more manufacturers use cassettes, maybe better forks, and the option of torque sensing. And sure, the 24" fat tires should be more popular in my opinion.
so great to see you! I missed you haven't seen you in a while you introduced me into Ebike with your Bolton Bikes video! glad to see u again it is almost Christmas Keep up the good work Best of Health prayers for you
Thank you for this video. I just told my husband that I want an ebike for my birthday and Christmas gift. I live in the mountains so large motor and big batteries are a must just to get up the hills I don’t need the speed that comes with this size and power. At age 58 , weight was a big concern I will be adding your bike to my list. I had the Ariel and electric picked out so far.
First I just want to say that I was sorry to hear that your health issues continue to dog you but stay strong and you will definitely get through this period of ill health.
It has been another interesting year in the Ebike business, my wife and I have a small ebike shop that rents, sells and repairs ebikes only, we do not carry analog bicycles, so we are specialized on what we think is the future of cycling. The year started off well and then with the news constantly talking about recession it cooled a little in July but when RadPower decided to slash their prices to clear their excess inventory the affordable Ebike market went into a tailspin that we continue to adapt to. The Blackbird is worth the extra money and is head and shoulders above the other ebikes on your list, including the Aventure which we are a dealer for and it is an excellent ebike for the money, but sometimes you have to drop the price to remain competitive with bigger players who can afford to reduce their price because of their volume buying power. Get well soon and if you ever decide to open up a dealer chain then please let us know as we would love to carry a quality line like Area 13/Bolton Bikes.
We do have a wholesale application on our site now. www.area13ebikes.com/pages/area-13-wholesale-beta
I hope you feel 💯 % soon little brother. When I do finally pull the trigger and get my savings up. I'll probably get the Blackbird. I like the look a lot. Thanks.
You could add that the extra 4 wh of the Ariel adds about 3 - 4 pounds of the weight difference from your bike to the Ariel, but good, mostly impartial, evaluation. Your bike is more "bikey" than any of the fat tire behemoths available. Of far more importance is your health which hopefully and prayerfully will improve and bring you back all the way.
Boy the bike market is so saturated now people really have to do there home work.
you have the best video. sorry about the health issue, Have been there once, I have a couple e-bike and will be trying to get down there to check out your falcon, get health. Thanks for the video.
Should be getting my 2 Blackbirds delivered this Friday. Can't wait!
Thank you for your videos, I really enjoy your presentation and easily understandable language. I hope your health continues to improve and I wish you peace and joy.
I agree with a torque sensing system is better. The pick up is more gradual compared to a "oh your peddling, here have full power" I 100% agree that having a torque sensor is a huge bonus and makes for a more enjoyable ride
I hadn't put much thought into a torque sensor, but I will now! Thanks brother.
@@pwlyons759 It just helps with gradually speeding you up and is only based on the effort put into it. It feels like real peddling compared to fake peddling without a T sensor. With a cadence sensor it just feels like you are going through the motions unless you are at the top end of the Peddle assist level. It like ill get you to 12 km/h then you do some work... with torque it feels like lets get to 12km/h together then ill stop
@@steve_main actually sounds like a pretty important part to know about if you care about how your bike acts & rides. 😊
I like the cadence but, would like to try a torque based one, better yet, one with both, to see what I like better. I'm not really upset with full power via cadence but, there's times that I wish it wasn't. Having a heart condition, I don't know if I could ride with the torque sensor requirement to keep pedaling as hard as possible to get it's assistance.
They need a way to use the gearing your in to determine the speed it propels you to.
@@CyborgAlienBariaur I guess it depends on the bike. My pedal assist levels 1 through 5 govern how much the torque sensing helps. So for you I would set it to level five and then back it off until you feel comfortable. Mind you I have the Befang ultra 1,000w motor that has these features. I'm not sure if all e-bikes have this feature. Some pedal assist levels just govern what speed they will go up to some govern how much to help you some do both!
Good luck on your health issues.I have some too.
Definitely changed my lifestyle and made me more humble.
BICYCLES have helped my mind and body my entire life.
Ride my Magnum Ranger everyday here in Florida.
I love my Blackbird. 15 months and 4000 miles. That front suspension comes alive blasting downhill on rough rock and dirt. I want to get a Falcon next.
It's not even close. The Blackbird wins easily; highest quality components in its class. The bike was designed and built by someone that knows and loves bikes! Get well soon brother. I love all your videos.
Cheesy generic frame, would have to put it on a black diamond to see if it's really any good, hopefully it has the gears for the Steep climbs on a mountain bike trail, unfortunately I've never seen anyone put one to the test.
It beat the Kepler because it cost $700 more..
@@joegarland2224 would like to see both of a technical singletrack, from what I've seen with these geared hubs they either have top end or low end, very few of them have both. The Kepler though is topping at 34mph with just throttle, that fast for a geared hub.
Hey, just finished watching your "Fat Tire" video and I must say, you did an amazing job showcasing the bike's features and performance! As an ebike enthusiast, I'm always on the lookout for new and innovative products, which brings me to this exciting new crowdfunding project I stumbled upon. Have you heard about the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike? It's a game-changer! One standout feature that caught my attention is the ability to recharge the bike while cycling indoors. How cool is that? It's a perfect blend of fitness and sustainability. I can't wait to support this project and get my hands on this revolutionary e-bike. Keep up the great work!
Spot on with the Kepler overview (we have two) and comparison of the BlackBird to the others. Kepler is focused on power, with basic components (Altus/Tourney w/ 7 speed freewheel, and a 52t / 11-34 freewheel). I swapped my chain ring to 38t, for ~28mph @ 90 RPM (which isn't horrible to spin to 31mph for me) and went Alivio with a thumb throttle replacing the twist. The Zoom fork and front hub, is definitely an area I do not like (loose bearings in a hub in 2022?). I was actually looking at your replacement fork recently which led me to this video.
I love how you've specced the BlackBird. The fork hub/wheel is exactly the setup I would upgrade to (and had been pricing before I saw your videos). Nice choice on brakes as well. The 2 piston Tektro HD-E350 on the Kepler should definitely be quad like the Blackbird (especially up front). The OEM pads hold back braking even further (I replaced them with Corki Copper based).
You did really well on the BlackBird! Hopefully word gets around. I like the way Aventon has gone recently on their advertising "The [MODEL] is not cheap," approach. Anytime I try to discuss components with Ariel Rider owners, all I hear is "Best value" Most power!" chant. It's really not a great value though with the choice of components the Kepler uses (that Zoom fork is dangerous!), but then again most AR owners start modding as soon as they receive the bike and quickly forget how much they have replaced on their bikes.
I'd put the Ariel Rider Kepler as number 1, the Blackbird is most likely lighter because it has the smaller battery. The Kepler also has the more powerful motor that'll out perform all the other bikes on this list by a good margin.
I bought the Ariel Kepler because I was 265 lbs when I first bought the bike, so I wanted something powerful that could handle a rider up to 300 lbs. I am so glad I went with it. The bike is built like a tank and it has plenty of power, torque, and durability for the heavier rider. With that said, it must feel like a motorcycle for the lighter riders. The other plus is the adjustability it has in the instrument cluster to adjust the bike's speed and power delivery to your liking. I was undecided between the Aventon and the Ariel. I am very happy with the choice I made, especially because I picked mine up with a $300 discount promotion. So I ended up paying $1400 plus tax for each bike, and delivery was included because I bought 2. Fyi the new 2023 Aventon 2 now comes with the same specs as the 2022 plus a torque sensor. I think I would stick with the Ariel Kepler but I would give Aventon a shot at a test ride. The great thing about Aventon is that their factory is near my house and I hear their customer service is outstanding.
@Kyle: As a fellow ebike youtube channel we'll been keeping tabs on how you're doing so thank you for the update. We'll be sending you good vibes!...The Blackbird at $1999 is a steal and right now 100% the best value in this $2k fat tire category...Also agree the components are all top notch (dorado brakes, drive train) and a step above all of the rest. The biggest negative I see w the Blackbird (aside from the battery) is the frame size but I know you have a step thru coming soon. Is Area 13 launching an updated version of the Blackbird step over frame?
Thank you. The Step through comes with a larger battery. Hopefully that's a change that will be made to bikes in 2023 at some point. We can fit up to 20ah now.
@@Area13ebikes did you drop the price from 2500 to 1999?
Love ur vids they're most informative hay man prayers go out to you
I just bought and received my aostir 750W 48V 26 inch with rear rack 28.5 mph for $1127 delivered including sales tax. I'm delighted.
praying for your better health.
Ariel Riders Kepler can get an extra $100 off for students, teachers, and veterans/service men with the kepler , making it only $1699. Which is by far the best bike expecially for that price.
Your bike is by far the best bike. The Aventon I think is the next primarily because of local bike support.
I'm looking at the SMLRO V3 or the Philodo H8. Both are dual 1000W motor and 22.4Ah batteries. These are going to be off road gravel trail bikes, not just road cruisers, hence the dual drive and higher power motors, and both at at or just below $2K. For a road cruiser, the Ariel Kepler looks really good.
Thank you so much for your channel. Best wishes on your recovery for your health problems. My only comment would be I feel the prices should be in Canadian dollars
i got a b52 boomer and it will go 50mph and never overheats with a 5000 watt motor with a 72v 30 amp battery. i have put 5500 miles on it in 1.5 years and sold my car. I built it my self and the speed limits in my town or only 30 mph on 95% of the city roads. So i never get pulled over on it. Yes it has the paddles on it, but I only use them when the battery runs out LOL. I built it with a small 12v 9AHR battery to run a Motorcycle head light, turn singles and Tail/Break light. I had it up to 52 mph. It cost me 2200.00 to build it.
bee cool adventurer. .full squish.. 21ah battery.. hydraulic 180 ... $1600 i own this bike best run out so far was 62miles.. love it!
Would like to see a review of the wicked freedom ebike
Got the engwe engine pro. And it's an absolute blast. So comfortable, and cruises at 28mph, peaks at over 1000watts, front back suspension, 16ah battery, full hydraulic breaks, awesome specs, all for just over a grand
We love our Blackbird bikes! Lots of power, very comfortable.
What options are there for grading the battery? We would like to go further on a charge.
Love the TOP TWO
Thanks for the great reviews. Have you ever ridden a Wicked Cruiser (now called Wired) bike?
Im using the Eleglide Tankroll for my dog. we made over 600km till now. all perfect, after 2 times a day, full offroad. Ive changed the breaks, cause my dogs weight is 60kg. but thats all. we are a perfect team now, man/dog/bike. thanks to the tankroll
I love my Blackbird! it rocks!
HOPE YOU GET BETTER!
Get well dude! I agree, the Blackbird is the best. I just got a Troxus Explorer step over, $1241 after disc code, 20ah Samsung, 750w Bafang hub, 2 piston 180mm Tektro, 8s Shimano cassette, torque sensor. Don't let the numbers fool you, the Bafang 750w is very powerful. The 1800w Ariel Rider must be terrific! The quality and fit and finish of the Troxus is outstanding. It is very tall and hard to get on and off, my only gripe. I'm selling my BBSHD mid-drive. In the real world, hub motors are way better. The Troxus is every bit as fast as the 1500w BBSHD and so much easier to ride.
I have an Aventon Aventure and really enjoy it. I've had a few issues under warranty (motor making noise) and it was pretty quick to get Aventon to send a replacement part. Also, for all the bikes with 8 speed drivetrains, you get the option to upgrade to 9, 10 or 11 speed drivetrains with no new hub needed. The 7 speed ones generally are a dead end. Might not matter to you, but I have an 11 speed SRAM setup on my aventure and it's a huge improvement if you do large hills especially.
Just realized you mentioned this in the video and you were incorrect. The Aventure is definitely a cassette. I can't speak to any of the other bikes. Also, the Aventure is on sale semi-regularly for 1799.
Thanks for your comment. I love finding true information. I hope Area 13 notices.
Thanks for clarifying that!
Well, first off Kyle sorry I missed this , but the newest posting lead me here out of curiosity. Actually, first is really glad to hear from you as I literally this morning thinking, I wonder, how you are doing. So, yes I was beginning to be concerned. Thankfully you are still kicking it, but sorry you're suffering. Probably after the first of the year before I make it up your way. Unless I've gotten my retirement dialed in before. Hugs to You and Yours... and High Five for your crew.
Thank you for understanding. Unfortunately I am still suffering on a daily basis, but I'm doing what I can!
@@Area13ebikes Hey Kyle, I'm sorry to hear this I hope you didn't think I was complaining I was, but not concerning your content or lack of. I was however, complaining about UA-cam's algorithm somehow not...informing me of your last posting. And why it randomly posted this one. At any rate, Thank You, for the note. I hope it didn't tax you as I said before I'm not going anywhere fast...at 73 and I just till my retirement kicks in just enjoying what interests me. I will keep you in my thoughts and Hope for you. Once again, thank you for the reply. Hugs
Thanks I have a Zebra but would love Cobra pro mid-drive motor and electrics with your fork and brakes. Will ride this for the time but may have to upgrade at some point. Good luck with the health GBS is a hard one. :(
#4 is your best pick
Legal in most states
Big battery to accommodate the fat tires
Rack and fender included
48v is strong enough
I've been seriously considering the Aventure 2 or the Cyrusher Montta or Trax. I have a Lectric I use for commuting and a bit of offroad. I'd like a bike with bigger wheels and more offroad capability. I'm drawn to the Cyrusher due to the rear suspension and to the Aventure 2 due to the quality and feature value. However, I had not heard about Area 13 or the Blackbird and I am very intrigued by the spec and key upgraded components for the price. I'll do a bit more research on the Blackbird and your company before deciding on my next Ebike.
I really do like Step thrus though.
That's a hard choice I'm looking for my 2nd ebike(my first being a Sondors LX which is a beast just want a hub driven bike also)The Blackbird does have some better components but for 1799 and a 1000w motor that Kepler very hard to pass on.
I bought 4 keplers and got them on the first shipment that came out at the end of May. I'm approaching 2000 miles on mine. We haven't had any problems. There is so very much I could tell you about them. I don't have experience on other bikes, but price and specs made the Kepler decision an easy choice back when I pre-ordered them.
The two female riders in my family feel like the bikes are too big. They are 5'4" and 5'2". I researched the seat height thoroughly before ordering the bikes, and that's not the problem. The seat height range on the Kepler is great. Even the 5"2" rider can sit on it comfortably (though I wouldn't think anyone shorter could). I think the feeling of the bikes being too big is more to do with the 26x4 tires and the strength required to maneuver them.
I wanted a bike that allowed me to sit more upright in my posture, and the adjustable handlebars of the Kepler let me rotate them up. They ship with the neck at a 90 degree forward angle like the Blackbird, but it doesn't look like the Blackbird is adjustable. Also I have a friend that has a Himiway (Cruiser, I think, not the Zebra), and that was his main complaint, that he couldn't rotate the handle bar up so he feels like he has to reach too far forward.
I think the forward handle bar design is horrible for ebike riders. It's like a carry-over from BMX riders needing exceptional control, but ebike riders want to relax, sit back, and have a comfortable ride, and the industry is really super-slow at figuring this out. And with that said, I'm frustrated with my Kepler handlebars being too far forward, even after I rotated them so the neck is straight up vertically. I wish I could have found a beach cruiser style with the battery and power of the Kepler.
One other complaint I have about the Kepler, and this may be unfair since I don't have anything to compare it too, but those hydraulic brakes sound horrible, like I've got gravel grinding away somewhere in the wheel. Someone told me I could put softer pads on them, but I don't know if that would really help. I've tried to align and adjust them, but either I don't know what I'm doing or their isn't much that can be done about them. They sound horrible!
So I really like the thought that the Blackbird has upgraded brakes.
Don't overlook fenders. They are included with the Kepler. It's not rain that I need them for, it's from sprinklers soaking the bike paths, and avoiding water seems nearly impossible despite living in a desert. I'm not sure that front fender on the Blackbird would actually provide much protection.
And the Kepler's included rack is pretty heavy duty. So that's a plus as well.
Not getting into the ethics or legality of speed, but the Kepler can be unlocked to go up to 32 miles per hour. I've done that and gone full throttle. Despite the massive battery, hauling my 230 pounds around at full speed can drain the battery in an hour. So if you're good at math, that would equal a minimum range of 32 miles. But it's actually less because when I say full throttle, I actually average around 26 or 27 mph. Of course my wife, who weighs half as much, could get double that range at full throttle.
I've toned down my speed addiction and found that I like to mostly cruise at top speeds of 22 to 25 mph, which usually averages around 15 to 16 mph. And this leads me to another complaint about the Kepler. Again, in fairness, I don't have anything to compare this to, but I find the lowest level assist on the Kepler is too fast.
The Kepler ships with 5 levels of assist, but if you unlock it, like adjusting your maximum speed, you can also adjust your assist up to 9 levels. So let's call it 10 for the simplicity of discussion.
If I set my maximum speed at 32 mph and 10 levels of assist, I would expect every level of assist to go up 3.2 mph. That's not at all how it works. Nearly 2000 miles on the bike, and I still can't get the damn assists figured out.
At a maximum speed of 32 mph and 9 levels of assist, pedaling in assist 1 results in the bike wanting to go 16 or 17 mph, which is way too fast in many situations. Level 2 jumps to 23 or 24 mph, which is my normal comfort zone, but that leaves a big gap between those two assist levels.
So I change the programming to give me only 4 levels of assist, and it still does damn near the same thing. Level 1 wants to go 17 or 18 mph, and Level 2 wants to go 24 or 25 mph.
So I reduce my maximum speed to 24 mph and go back to 9 levels of assist, and level 1 still wants to go too fast at 13 or 14 mph, and now I can't go over 24 mph when I want or need to (i.e., there's a good argument to be made for going faster and riding in a traffic lane rather than 20 mph on the side of a road).
The bottom line on the assist levels is that they don't work worth a crap, at least not on the Kepler. Given a particular bike path, there's a magic combination of proper assist level and proper pedaling gear that will feel right.
You want to feel like your pedaling, like your doing the work, but with magical results. Too much assist, and your speed will tend to be too much, and you'll feel like you're not really pedaling, like you're just making the pedals go around but there is no resistance. Too little assist, and you'll feel like you're going too slow and that you'll have to pedal harder than hell just to go a little bit faster.
I don't know what the answer to this is, but the Kepler doesn't have it figured out. Maybe that's where a torque sensor would really have value, but I don't really know.
@@af31ns might want to check compatibility with the EggRider display & get you one if it works with your Kepler. It will solve your issues, allowing you to determine each PAS level, plus it will display in volts, watts, or percentage.
I understand your females too big complaint, as I'm 6' 1" & find it almost too large for comfort for me as well, especially at stops. And I have the step through... Otherwise luv my Kepler.
Not to mention the 20 amp hour battery 🔥
I am in the market for my second E bike. I’ve been researching online and if it ever stops raining here in grass Valley California, I’ll walk down to your store downtown and take a look to see what you have.
The Blackbird having a smaller battery is irrelevant considering all the fantastic upgrades it has, plus the lighter weight. Hopefully I'll be moving soon and I can get my greedy hands on it.
One of my ebikes is the 26in Speedrid by Ancheer. With a couple upgrades its really tough to come anywhere near it for just over $1,000 before upgrades. It's completely underrated, its Marketed as a 500 watt, but if you take it apart it looks like a 750. The controller is marked 18 amps, but the display says it's pulling 1,040 Watts Peak( probably really 20 amps). It's got a real mountain bike frame better than most that you'll find, it's also got the newer style head tube so you can put one of those expensive suspension forks with the tapered steerer tube. It's completely unrestricted only tops out of 26 mph but, on a mountain bike trail at climbs like nothing I've ever seen before. A turbo levos definitely not going to keep u, on steep inclines. You literally can come to a dead stop in the middle of a huge incline and then just start pedaling again.
I have a 26" step thru beach cruiser and so far it's having problems. My mechanic told me that they didn't measure the rear brake line to well. It takes me a good 200' to come to a complete stop. The battery is starting to deminish going up hill with a full charge.
@@kurtismckemmie4850 that's sucks what kind of bike?
I have to agree the number 1 bike has some very nice features that are important and not found on any of the others. If I did not have a e-fatty already you would have certainly sold me one :)
It should be number one. It cost $700 more than the number two bike on the list. Lol
I am new at this, sorry how do I telegram you?
@@hamsterhuey9495 don't telegram him. It's a scam. There has been a lot of this mess lately. It is not area 13. They're just acting like him
Hey there, was wondering if you had a list for your favorite step through commuter bike around $3k range. I like the style of the Specialized Vado 3 or aventon level 2, and would love some opinions of the two as well as any suggestions from you or anyone in the commenters. Any help is greatly appreciated and welcome. Thank you
I can't decide between the Tesgo STT, Vitilan I7 Pro and the Heybike Tyson. I'm going to use it on the street, a little off-road and on the beach. I'm in Florida (mostly flat except for bridges) so good customer service is important. What do u recommend for a folding bike under $1800? TIA
Thoughts on the Asomtom q7? It has good specifications and good looks for the price. Thinking on getting one.
I have the Ariel kelper and it rips. 1200 miles no issues beach trails or street it handles it all
at this price the Blackbird is a sweet choice! Flip a coin between one and two, depends on what type of rider you are. I would go with the Blackbird for better components and a motor that can be easily sourced after market.
I won’t dispute your bike as #1 on your list . Specs don’t lie . I ended up 6 wks ago getting a himiway cobra . Love the bike , I wish I had done more research/ watched the proper videos before buying. I need more torq for my hilly area in so. Ca. Desert so I’m gonna hit up nerd out Johnny & get a 1,000 w mid drive bafang . & put this 750w hub junk on my wall . If I lived on the flats it would be great .
Bottom line is with any battery, if you want to do it for pleasure take your time and get your pleasure. If you want to get somewhere in a hurry, get there and plan on using up most of your battery. If you're going to go out for pleasure and go fast the whole time don't plan on much bike time. Bike safely!
I would pick the Philodo H8 or H7. They have bigger motors and more motors. Just as big battery plus cheaper all in all.
Just by way of market research / feedback: I need a bike that can carry a passenger once in a while. At 55lbs capacity, the rear rack on your bike won't do. Otherwise, it seems like a lovely bike. I wish you success with your business and of course, your health.
Ariel Rider Kepler has a huge rear rack that holds up to 75 lb. Lots of power too. No bike 2000 and under can go faster.
What do you think of the Upgraded 2023 Wallke X3 Pro? It's a full size foldable fat tire mountain bike with full suspension, 48h 20AH battery with top speed of 32mph. It's currently $1999. Only negative I see is that it's heavy at 85lbs. There's a H6 model as well that's more of a BMX style design that's foldable with 2 batteries.
I got lucky and bought a Rad Rover 5 just before the Pandemic.....Free Shipping and Mil Vet Discount (no longer offered)...$1595 including tax. You can't touch an entry-level Fat Tire now for under $1800...hence this video....but the number of choices have expanded greatly.
I'm going with E-cell soon as I win the lottery. The AWD is my thing that will help me get up inclines. My Aventon Aventure sucks at any inclines especially with my bad legs.
E cells is a awesome bike. Agreed
The Adventure went up to $2075.00 as of 2 weeks ago. Just for your information. Are there dfealers in Arizona for the Black Bird? Also I am not aware of your health issues but I wish you the best with the treatments.
Im so excited to get my Ariel Rider Kepler. I have watched over 20 hours of videos on UA-cam of all kind of brands and the kepler is the best bang for your buck.
Agreed. It'll smoke any bike that cost $2,000 and under in a race. even the $2500 Blackbird . And the Kepler only cost $1,800 bucks LOL
Wried freedom is 60v 20ah, with 40watt controller. Can the BB be unlocked if so what is max speed and controller specs
I ride a RadRover 6 and love it. Where on your top 10 bikes does it come in.
Also I wish you well with your GB as my wife had it bad years ago and she has no significant effects from the disease.
Thank you. Radrover would be way down the list. Battery and motor power are both significantly less in capacity and wattage.
Area 13 good to know
Do U have any Black Birds in stock? If not, when would U be getting them in? & about how long would it take to be shipped to Reno NV?
Just got 2 Juiced RipCurrent S for $1500 each however the MSRP is $2400.
It hits high on every one of the items compared except for the display screening
Would love to hear your thoughts on MagiCycle Cruiser?
How does the Ride!up 700 Series fit on your list ? I know its not a fattie but i dont need all that extra weight considering i'm a speed/road rider anyways..
I wish you'd covered the Aventon Adventure 2 in this list because it had a Torque sensor and comes in less than $2k.
Juiced RipCurrent S #2 !!! 😍🤩
Best deal would be my current ebike from Amazon. ReAspire SY0201 @ 750/1300W BAFANG hub motor with 48V 16Ah. FULL suspension & front/rear hydraulic disc brakes weighting in at 66lbs.... all for $1620 after taxes.
I have the Kepler mainly because the price of $1800 but it sounds like your bike is technically a better bike however it will not go as fast but I like safety more than speed
Kepler is the speed King
Glad to see you again Kyle. Hope you are getting better!
Ok, I take it to issue in that the Blackbird is on sale for that price, not normally that price.
What about the Rad Power Bikes Rad Rover?!? It's under $2k and has most of the same parts as everyone else. Weak battery, barely 750W, 7 speeds, did they upgrade brakes?, Where would it fall on your list?!?
I personally don't have a favorite bike under $2k but, I am looking/awaiting for a 24" step-thru eBike that can go over 100 miles on a charge with at least 30ah, if not 50ah under $2500!
Rad Rover doesn't have nearly as much power as any other bike on the list, and the battery is much smaller. It just doesn't make the cut. It should be cheaper in my opinion. It was an ok deal at $1,499 for the RR5. All they did for the "plus" was put on some cheap hydraulic brakes and raise the price $500.
@@Area13ebikes yeah Rad uses 250W motors and reworks and over volts them to achieve the 750W ratings, and I was weary of the price increase for just cheapo hydraulic brakes. Otherwise, they seem to be well built, at least frame wise.
What's your thoughts about upgrading the front quick lock on their front tires, (specifically the RadRunner Plus,) to something more secure?
What do you feel about the Mokwheeel Basalt? 1999 base price
I don't know how this happened but at 2 minutes and 10 seconds into the video with the Himiway, The quick release lever on the front wheel is actually inside of the brake disk
I have a foxbat bike is there another battery that will give me more range
What is your opinion about the Bee Cool Adventure? I have one and really like it but I have no experience with any bikes so would like your opinion.
I haven't seen one in person. Looks like a "budget" build with some lower end specs, but likely not bad for the price they offer.
How long will the blackbird on sale, and financing 2 months
Both the Blackbird and the Wired Freedom are good choices. I like the blackbird, but the Wired Freedom edges it out.
Damn! I would've went ahead at that price!!! The torque sensor is what got me to get the Aventure instead of the Blackbird, my knees and poor physical condition lead me to get something with a cadence sensor. Your review and decision to carry Aventon bikes are what convinced me but, after my purchase and some experience, I wish this price would've came earlier. Area 13 rocks!
I am hoping you have done a video of mountain bikes that don't have 4" tires. I'm wanting to spend between 4 and 7000.
Pity the Blackbird is not for sale in the U.K.
Yes it is... shipping overseas is logistically very difficult.
Take care of you, my friend. 🙏🫶✌️
I’m waiting on delivery of my wired cruiser, supposedly most powerful in this price range.
Thank you. However, the background music is not needed - actually it detracts from your good insights.
I'm looking around on Amazon for a bike with dual motors so I can pull my trailer without losing so much power.
I was thinking if I was to upgrade the motor on my bike I don’t see why I couldn’t just use a kit with the correct size rim it doesn’t even need the tire because I can just use one of mine and probably controller plus battery to go with it but I’m thinking that damn battery is going to make it almost worth just getting a new bike at that point but maybe not I’m sure it would save a bunch still.
I'm on the fence between the Aventon Aventure and the Velawave Ranger which come in both at $1499. Both almost the exact same bike. I like the Velawave design and look much better but it seems like the Aventon is a more well known company and now offer a 2 year warranty. Velawave is an online company and is soon to be offered in bike shops. Which of these 2 bikes are better bike and know the next curve ball the Aventure 2 is offering the Torque Sensor rather than the Cadence Sensor. Is it worth it to bump up to the $1899 for the Torque Sensor or stick with the regular Aventure?
I'd go with the aventure 2 with the torque sensor. (Review immenent!)
@@Area13ebikes With more research I also have found the Hovsco HovAlpha 26" Fat Tire Bike for $1599. 750 W but not showing more detail specs. Any feedback on this bike by any chance? Thank you
Is the Aventure a class 3?
Appreciate the info, but I recommend a little more bike time and a little less face time the next time.
Do you think we can Buy aera13 from Canada