My dad was an electrician and I have Klein tools he used in the 70s that is still in great shape after years of everyday use. The stuff literally never wears out!
I have those pliers and they work great for what they are. Good video sparky . It is good to know that you and I love Klein cause they are made in the USA 🇺🇸 and lifetime warranty also
these do have a few quirks. - I currently use the originals without the crimper, 1: when my strippers lose their spring, I retire them and get a new set. so I immediately won't be getting the crimper model. 2: the hinge does need periodic lubrication, or it will start sticking when cutting cables or screws. 3: the tip is just too thick to make the proper size hook for screw terminals. I have thought about grinding it down, BUT... 4: the 6-32 screw cutter hole IS positioned right for making the hooks for screw terminals. (note that the wire looping holes in reflex strippers are not positioned correctly) 5: the stripping holes on my model only go to #10, while Reflex strippers go to #8. (don't know if the crimper model goes to #8) 6: Klein linemen's pliers are the correct width to accurately strip wire to the correct length for device terminals. (put the cut end even with the other side of the plier and you will get the correct strip length every time, while with these, you have to estimate how far to have it sticking past the side of the tool) 7: the thicker jaws make it inconvenient to use your finger to mark where you are cutting. - not impossible, but inconvenient. 8: they don't have the leverage that linemen's pliers do. 9: the jaws are too thick to trim down the trim screws so they don't hit the tile when installing decora devices on tile. All in all, I am fine working around the limitations these have - I carry these, along with Linemen's and Klein needlenose, and grab the one that best suits each task. they have lasted longer than my reflex strippers ever have - and that's because of that hinge - the most common failure point is the hinge on reflex getting to the point it has to be readjusted frequently.
I liked it in theory. In practice, 3+ conductors is a task to cut. Twisting wires, you can do, but it doesn’t feel natural. The screw cutting holes aren’t aligned properly either. The good things are the longer cutting blade which one at a time is fine. The grips are comfortable (but again cutting more than 2 conductors isn’t fun and I blame the pivot point). Extra holes for stripping is nice too which it does a good job at. I think they’re decent but not for the price. I’d rather have (which I do) the needle nose wire strippers to knock out stubborn 1900 box holes than two linesman nose pliers.
Love my regular HD combo pliers, once I drilled the lock off and pulled the spring out that is, didn’t think the lock was at all intuitive, so I didn’t use it which then made the spring annoying ! Lol
@Sparky Channel. Thanks Bill for another great review and comparison between these two Klein pliers. It's great that Klein gives us choices and you did a great job explaining the differences. Hope you and your family stay safe and well. Hope you have a safe and pleasant Labor Day.
I just picked these up, and they seem very good, but when fully closed, my plier jaws have a pretty good gap in them-is this normal for these or did I maybe get a pair made a little off?
I’m just the opposite. Been in electronics since I was 17, now 86 (well not doing much electrical/electronics any more). The 1st thing I do with any new pliers type tool is remove the spring. My little finger now becomes the “spring”. I find that that gives me better control of the tool especially cutters, crimpers, strippers and needle nose pliers. I must be in a minority though as most of these type tools come with springs now a days.
I don’t understand why people want combo pliers to be spring loaded. I understand strippers but you’re not only using these to strip wire. You don’t have a spring on your linemans…
Klein indeed does offer lots of choices Sparky. Another good video,
Good morning Gary! They sure do. Have a great Labor Day!
My dad was an electrician and I have Klein tools he used in the 70s that is still in great shape after years of everyday use. The stuff literally never wears out!
I'd bet there are also ones he has broken and thrown away. it's tough and reliable, but not indestructible.
Thanks for all these multi purpose pliers videos. They helped me make a choice on which to purchase.
I have those pliers and they work great for what they are. Good video sparky . It is good to know that you and I love Klein cause they are made in the USA 🇺🇸 and lifetime warranty also
USA! Hi Ruben!
I’ll be ditching my hybrid lineman’s for these puppies
Sounds good!
these do have a few quirks. - I currently use the originals without the crimper,
1: when my strippers lose their spring, I retire them and get a new set. so I immediately won't be getting the crimper model.
2: the hinge does need periodic lubrication, or it will start sticking when cutting cables or screws.
3: the tip is just too thick to make the proper size hook for screw terminals. I have thought about grinding it down, BUT...
4: the 6-32 screw cutter hole IS positioned right for making the hooks for screw terminals. (note that the wire looping holes in reflex strippers are not positioned correctly)
5: the stripping holes on my model only go to #10, while Reflex strippers go to #8. (don't know if the crimper model goes to #8)
6: Klein linemen's pliers are the correct width to accurately strip wire to the correct length for device terminals. (put the cut end even with the other side of the plier and you will get the correct strip length every time, while with these, you have to estimate how far to have it sticking past the side of the tool)
7: the thicker jaws make it inconvenient to use your finger to mark where you are cutting. - not impossible, but inconvenient.
8: they don't have the leverage that linemen's pliers do.
9: the jaws are too thick to trim down the trim screws so they don't hit the tile when installing decora devices on tile.
All in all, I am fine working around the limitations these have - I carry these, along with Linemen's and Klein needlenose, and grab the one that best suits each task. they have lasted longer than my reflex strippers ever have - and that's because of that hinge - the most common failure point is the hinge on reflex getting to the point it has to be readjusted frequently.
3. Use the corner of the tip nose, not the whole nose to make hook for screws terminals. Youll be able to make smaller hook than the screw
@@milkeywhey2998 I take it you posted this without reading #4?
@@kenbrown2808 I have but imho using corner of the nose is more natural
Good morning Bill!!!! Great video. I hope you enjoy The Labor Day holiday.....
Good morning to you as well! Have a great Labor Day!
Happy Labor Day Bill, some heat wave we’ve had last couple days huh? Those Klein’s are pretty sweet my friend. Thanks for vid. 👍😎
Michele and I went to the beach yesterday. It was nice! Have a great Labor Day!
I liked it in theory. In practice, 3+ conductors is a task to cut. Twisting wires, you can do, but it doesn’t feel natural. The screw cutting holes aren’t aligned properly either. The good things are the longer cutting blade which one at a time is fine. The grips are comfortable (but again cutting more than 2 conductors isn’t fun and I blame the pivot point). Extra holes for stripping is nice too which it does a good job at. I think they’re decent but not for the price. I’d rather have (which I do) the needle nose wire strippers to knock out stubborn 1900 box holes than two linesman nose pliers.
Thanks Gabe!
Sparky Channel I love your videos! Super helpful.
Love my regular HD combo pliers, once I drilled the lock off and pulled the spring out that is, didn’t think the lock was at all intuitive, so I didn’t use it which then made the spring annoying ! Lol
Thanks Daniel!
@Sparky Channel. Thanks Bill for another great review and comparison between these two Klein pliers. It's great that Klein gives us choices and you did a great job explaining the differences.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
Hope you have a safe and pleasant Labor Day.
Thanks! Have a great Labor Day!
I like that they eliminated the lock. Great addition
Yes, I prefer no lock too. Have a great Labor Day!
The head on the hybrid pliers seems to be wider than the one of the heavy duty.
Thanks!
I have the older version and newer version they perform quite well as a industrial and commercial electrician.
I love to use these..no spring!
I just picked these up, and they seem very good, but when fully closed, my plier jaws have a pretty good gap in them-is this normal for these or did I maybe get a pair made a little off?
There should be a very small gap
Lineman pliers purposely don't close all the way, there is always a small gap
I love these!
Hi Jeff! Nice to hear from you. Yes, they're very nice!
NICE Hand tool Bill , the tools forged in USA are best
Thanks Steve!
Thanks !!!!👍🏼
No problem!
kick ass. all strippers need springs. old version is better.
HI Dave! I think I like the older version better myself.
I’m just the opposite. Been in electronics since I was 17, now 86 (well not doing much electrical/electronics any more). The 1st thing I do with any new pliers type tool is remove the spring. My little finger now becomes the “spring”. I find that that gives me better control of the tool especially cutters, crimpers, strippers and needle nose pliers. I must be in a minority though as most of these type tools come with springs now a days.
Happy labor day!!!
The same to you Amos!
Cool 👌✌🏼
Have a great Labor Day!
if the handles were shaped normal I would get them.
🍻🍺🔥🥩
Cheers with beers at the BBQ!
Everything has a wire looping hole if you have a drill and some bravery....
That's true! LOL!
12065 Not good!!!
Choose 12035. Has spring opened themselves very easy to use
I don’t understand why people want combo pliers to be spring loaded. I understand strippers but you’re not only using these to strip wire. You don’t have a spring on your linemans…
12035 no good I just returned to home Depot