RAM Plus - Virtual Memory feature on One UI 4.0 - Is it needed?
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2021
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In this video lets discuss about the Virtual memory or RAM Plus feature on Samsung One UI 4.0. Let me know your thoughts in the comments section.
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I have this feature called RAM plus , can you please tell me if there is any drawbacks in selecting higher RAM then current RAM ?
No drawbacks.. it will be used only when needed. Usually it won't be utilised
@@ThePhoneFuel but when i turned on 6 gb RAM from 4 gb i noticed a drastic increase in battery consumption . Is that not true for everyone ?
That's strange... not sure about that
I think we all need these questions answered.
1. Does this affect battery life?
2. Why is the default 4GB?
3. Is changing the Default affect performance? (One UI 4.1)
4. How can we prove this actually works?
5. Why doesn't anyone know or wanna test these questions?
My phone is 12 gig but Samsung only let you use 8
Weston, I had the same questions.. This info in the link I provided will suffice
@@alishatyler1724 dude, then u turn on 8gb ram plus, u got the all 12gb..
I changed from 4gb to 8gb, it's much better, u got now not an not 4 now for real this is trending cool thing, who makes ur phone be almost first on ur class
I've contacted the Samsung and asked about does it affect battery life and they confirmed that yes it does affect battery life it'll drain faster
Ya. Read about this earlier. Nice to see you cover this 👍
Thank you bro
Recently tried experimenting this feature, its really working. Im a medical student and using anatomy 3d models. Switching between other apps with that 3d app is easier
I'm using the note 10 plus from 2019 it had the memory back then. I'm waiting for next year's phone see what they have to offer
Storage gets slower on phones as it fills up, and ages. I do not want my apps using storage any more than absolutely necessary
You will need more then 12gb ram after 3 or 4 years when apps will get heavy and outdated software
I noticed that when you select the highest virtual ram the phone runs even faster
Virtual RAM has been a thing for many many years in Windows. It was mainly used to help increase graphics cards' virtual memory cache instead of a system memory extension. Basically it would allow you to use storage as a cache for a graphics card that had a low amount of dedicated VRAM. Obviously the storage memory was much slower than the physical VRAM in a graphics card, and when the storage memory gets used as a cache latency issues happen. All that being said it sounds like Samsung is using this as an actual RAM extension, but it's possible that it is still only going to be used as a cache for graphics memory simply because mobile graphics cards share system memory instead of having dedicated VRAM. Definitely a curious thing that I would love to have a clear answer for from Samsung.
I hope your right I came because I edit vedio on my phone (s20 note ultra) and the more ram I can use like you described the better 😉
But, the virtual ram in windows which you speak of was something to support the physical ram on the motherboard, no?
At least it started out that way, and that as a standard windows feauture not needing any outside programs. Wasn't it almost two decades or so this feature first came about, if not more?
Anyhow, I might be wrong, but I can't recall any instance where Windows' virtual memory would state or claim to increase the memory of any of my previous or current Nvidia graphic cards. It might be different on a laptop with an integrated graphic card.
I write this with all respect, no harm meant.
Flagships literally doesn't need this feature its the entry levels and mid ranges that they should focus on
Is it on by default or is there a specific way to activate it?
My S20FE 5G 5G variant has horrible ram management just as bad as my S9+ I used to have
After the one ui 4.0 update you will have this feature by default. On 4.1 you can select the amount of ram you need
Nice thank you 👍👏
I have galaxy a15 8GB ram and 256GB rom and my ram plus is in 4GB default, where i can switch to 6GB ram plus or 8GB ram plus
Do you think the galaxy a22 will get one ui4. 0 sice i already got the ram plus feature one ui 3.1?
Hi as per samsungs schedule A22 is expected to get the update in June this year.
I keep lots of apps open and times I will check and see what is open and see lots of system apps that have never heard of!!! You might be right about some of the system apps Noone thinks about or knows what they do turn on!!! I'm guessing they customize the system to run smoother and quicker but this might be something to explore!! With battery app looking to the memory I see Google services framework and maybe have an inkling of what it does
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
What about s23 5g does it need ram plus. Also does ot drain battery
I see no difference between 4GB, 6GB, or 8GB in the RAM Plus. My apps keep closing. The camera stutters a lot when opened with about 2GB of physical memory left. I am very frustrated with my 12GB S22Ultra5G.
Oh that's strange.. I have not seen my phone going through such issue even on heavy usage. Max 4 to 5 gb gets the job done. Something should be wrong with your device
wow you definitely have a lot of issues for a flagship 12 gb ram phone lmao
@@starstuff11 same thought lol
Clear catch possibly? I've never had that issue
Will it come to A11, friends?
In my experience... You will not notice any difference using Ram Plus on high end or upper mid range phones... But this made a WORLD of difference on my Galaxy A03s and my Galaxy A12. They're about 3 times faster now... Which, if you know how slow these phones actually are... You'd know that's A LOT.
Thanks for sharing this.. makes sense 👍
So u you put the a 03s on 2 gig ram plus are 4?
So changing it higher will that make the phone open apps faster making the phone heat more and less battery? What's the point of the feature?
I haven't notices any changes as such. Perhaps technically it makes a difference but as common users it's difficult for us to figure it out.. I am trying to dig into it.. let's see if I can post a video on the same soon.
I have enabled 4 gb ram but it isn't using my internal storage , pls help me
Is your note 20 ultra Exynos version?
Hows battery backup after ui 4.0?
Yes suraj it's exynos.. Battery seems to be doing good... I will share the results in a few days
I wonder if the add'l ram will help keeping apps open while display is off. I use a live streaming app. On my iPhone, I can turn off the screen to save battery, and the app continues to run, that way I can still hear the audio. On my S22 Ultra, the moment I turn off display, the app disconnects after a couple of mins.
That could be because the app is optimized on ios platform to run in the background 🤔 may be..
Go into app information in the phone settings, battery and turn off battery optimization. It's turned on by default in all apps you install, but if an app need to be kept open (music playing apps for example) you should turn it off.
@@rodolfoferr … Thank you so much. That really worked. Now I can stay on the live stream even when I turn off the screen. I appreciate your help.
I tried to open alot of apps at once and noticed that virtual memory did not kick in when my ram was utilized more than 80%. It simply killed a few apps. So for now the virtual memory is not functional on N20U probably because its beta.
Hi, you are right parth.. I did try that.. actually there is no clarity on how effective it will utilize the ROM as RAM.. let's try it when we get stable version and see if it works..
@@ThePhoneFuel yes sure
groovy man so cool.
From my perspective, the ram plus feature is only useful for system background tasks only. It will not help in main app or game but still android OS eats a hefty amount of ram for background processes, like certain processes of system apps which we can see in settings>apps> system or caches processes. I think 2 GB is enough for ram plus if you have 8+ GB ram in your android phone.
Would it be effective the same for 6 gb ram device? If kept on 2 gb ram plus.....currently its on 4 gb plus....by reducing ....wud it increase game performance?
@@manishbangera9451 of course 6 gb is enough for day to day task and 2 gb for background processes. By reducing 2 gb you are offloading the load from storage as it will be only hold 2GB for ram plus. One more thing, in PC, the windows operating system has thumb rule of 1.5xhow much amount of ram you have in pc or laptop. But it is not same for android. So Ram Plus feature I already used in 2013 to 2015 when we have 2 to 4 gb ram phones available and it was giving visible boost performance in phone by rooting those phones.
@@dixitpatel017 Thanks mate !
if you have 8gb or more ram you don't need more ram. 8gb is more than enough.
what are you doing with your smartphones? emulating another os? jesus...
@@galerinha no brother. 50% or more ram is occupied by system and background task. Only 3 or 2.5 GB left for the gaming, video recording and editing & other stuff. So yeah, 2 GB ram plus will give boost to your phone as you have great amount of ram will be free for other task that you want to do actively on your phone.
I added additional 8gb to my S10 plus ram, so I was expecting the storage to reduce but it's still the same. Please can you tell why thanks
Apparently the storage will remain the same.. it will change only when the additional RAM is being used by the system which rarely happens
@@ThePhoneFuel okay keep the work bro Thanks 💗💗🥰
Yes I have 12 gb ram on my S20+
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I'm in US
12gb on my s22+ 😏
@@TobyFromGT same question ?
@@prvaccofme me also 12gb ram in galaxy note 10 plus
So my device says it CAN use the ram plus feature but it doesn't show an option to use it, it just says that it can use it
As per the OEMs the virtual RAM will be utilized when needed however we could not see that happening as of now.
I hope that feature gets released for Galaxy a11 users because the a11 slow as molasses only 2 GB Ram and being a 32-bit phone
Isn't the a13 out now? That's a pretty inexpensive phone compared to my a53 5g, I would recommend upgrading when you can, these new A series phones are very nice!
Yeah.. even the a31 or 32 is good As long as you have enough money to buy it... Or even samsung A04s, thatnewly release cheap samsung phone has almost the same specs as Samsung A21s
Lightroom needs 6GB RAM for AI features. Even with the ExtraRAM update, you couldnt get these features enabled. In your clean widget, it only shows 4GB max. Beside of a text line in menu, I havnt noticed this feature.
On the other hand... storage is not unlimited re-writeable. Wouldnt it take any longterm drawbacks when using this constantly?
Hi, technically I can't be sure whether there is going to be any long term drawback. But for most people who use a phone with Minimum of 6 GB default wouldn't need this extra RAM. This feature will be mostly used by phones with 2 or 3 GB of RAM which are basically lower end devices. Having said that , the feature is welcome for people who really need RAM beyond 6 GB
@@ThePhoneFuel The Tab S7 FE has an Snapdragon 778G, which is as powerful as S855, but it lacks the amount of ram (only has 4GB)
Yes in that case the extended RAM will be useful.. but have you noticed this additional RAM being utilized on Tab S7 FE? I mean does it show up on RAM usage?
@@ThePhoneFuel There is a text line, that it is there...but it doesnt descripe how much is in use. Moreover, your physical ram will never filled up completly.
So to sum up, I couldnt see any benefit of it.
All apps won't be active at the same time and memory manager would start to kill apps that is not used. On Android I never see a phone used all the memory available. The high ram models leave a few gb free and 4 gb tend to leave 1 gb free to 500 mb free. I think the only time it would be used is if you running something intensive that require all that ram. Most of time it would be video editing. So since people change their phone every two to three years if your phone have 8gb you won't need it.
S22-When I ran Apex legends with gpu tracker and stock 4gig ram it ran like 100% of cpu and gpu and my phone was hot, I changed to 8 gigs and a cpu and gpu change was noticed temperatures were lower and I got longer game time as a result, I will try some more tests I did this test before i even had a coffee this morning I may have lowered graphics and forgot to max them back out to mock my first play through on Apex.
Great... Thanks for sharing... 👍
@@ThePhoneFuel update: increased graphics settings heat was still minimal, yes increase from lower settings but expected, cpu gpu ran smooth never hitting 100% gpu still longer game time but not by much no exact time but it was noticed however minimal it may have been... I should have had a timer set... amateurs am I right lol 😆 anyway I feel like this s22 is a bad phone and should be recalled, the speaker issue is kinda bad, it's the beginning of summer no air-conditioning but just the temp from inside to outside makes it sound like the speakers blown till I remove the SD tray... I'm going to snap something eventually and need a replacement 🙃 these little things eventually add up to extortion if you want to use dramatic terminology...no SD card no headphone jack no dock smaller battery higher cost..should be a properly working unit upon boot with a tag of 1000$+ these little things if left uncheaked let big corps think 🤔 easily exploited
Absolutely 💯.. the price tag is not justified.. should have been a better device. The phone worth the price was note 9 and afterwords all the flagship from Samsung had one or the other shortcomings.. Thanks for sharing 👍
Every reviewer tests this device with flagships. Test with 4gb ram devices like Tab S7 FE
I do vdo edit on my Note 20 ultra and I need more ram... so bring it on
i still don't see the point of this. i just got my s22 ultra with 8gb of ram and the virtual ram is set to 4gb by default. im not sure if i should just decrease it to 2gb.
You can set it based on your ram usage.
Hi, can you also make sure if google feed option is available on note 20 ultra just like s21?
No on note 20 we don't have it yet on this first beta
@@ThePhoneFuel this feature should be added to other flagship phones. Why samsung keeping this exclusive to s21 is beyond stupid!
Yup that's rt.. Not sure what are they gaining out of it..
@@ThePhoneFuel Obvious bro, to buy a new one.
I'd expect a significant impact by rendering videos.
That's a good point..
I have a Samsung s21 Fe with a exynos 2100 and 6gb ram and 128gb rom my ram plus was at 4gb at first now it's at 6gb ram plus.
But i don't know, if my gaming performance increased because Samsung's rom is not fast like add on PC meaning if you use a HDD for Virtual ram wouldn't that make it slower than sdd ram? If it doesn't apply to mobiles what would be suited for gaming 2gb ram plus 4gb ram plus or 6gb ram plus *note* I have a 6gb ram phone and i want more performance and speed with it on gaming so any help with choosing what virtual ram size
Based on personal experience I don't think ram plus is used while play games I think it uses the main ram. My reason behind this is that my s20 fe 5g sd865 6gb ram was experiencing frame drops in codm battle royal it would some time drop to 40 fps for 2 - 3 seconds.
Since I set ram plus on 6gb I no longer get those frame drops. I've tries 2gb and 4gb however I still got the frame drops so 6gb seems to fix the issue.
Won't you make a playlist of one ui 4 videos?
Oh ya.. will do it soon.. thanks for the suggestion 😊👍
@@ThePhoneFuel welcome🌹
My question is do i need xtra ram plus or not bcz i have s22 ultra already i have 12gb ram so m confused ?
Nope not needed, you can turn it off
I have A question regarding Vivo S1 i am using it January 2019 with 4 gb ram 128 Gb ROM almost 90 gb storage Left internal and Now in 2022 end it starts Hanging and Ram management poor. In recent Update i gat A feature knows as Ram Expansion of 1Gb ram Should I enable It after 3 year Of use Some say it degrade The life span of Storage after three year of Buying I waanna Know Should i enable it for Further smooth Experience because its been 3 year Should i Care For Storage life span on other Hand Getting Some smoother Experience by Activating 1 gb extra ram
Hi Uttam, it's a common occurrence that the phone starts losing its processing power after a couple of years so is with VIVO, and this extra Ram is something which has been added without a proper demonstration of how it works or whether it really useful or not.. you can add it and try if it gets better.. I don't think it will degrade anything on the phone..
Why exynos version note 20 ultra price 70k qnd snapD 105000? Its huge price compare to just cpu and all the features are same ?
It's just about the demand for SD. The seller is just making money.. that's all..
@@ThePhoneFuel how much phones you have ?
As of now 4 Samsung phones and a xiaomi phone ..
S21 ultra ,note 20 ultra ,note 10 plus something hh...
Note 20 U, Note 10 plus, Note 9, A 52, MI 11X Pro, I wanted to buy the Note 21, unfortunately it wasn't lunched
is it true that adding more ram to my phone (s21) decreases the battery life even more?
I don't think so... first of all that virtual ram doesn't come into play.. I have not noticed at least.
When I first got the One UI 4.1 update on my Galaxy S22 Ultra, I noticed the RAM Plus feature when I was cleaning the memory. However, it makes my phone lag and ended up with 5.6 GB of memory. So happy I can now completely disable RAM Plus with the One UI 5.0 update. Now I have 7.1 GB of memory.
How is your battery. Is it draining fast
@@iliyaskhan3879 My apologies for this late reply. My battery is pretty good. I restricted the apps from running in the background. This way, my battery won't drain too fast.
I have used a71 4g , had get 12 androiad with 4.1 but after change the Ram plus detail my cell automatically restart. Its 2-3 times restart automatically. Today i change into 4gb. So suggest what to do? Automatically restart create problem for me.
Hi, it has to restart only once after selecting RAM plus option. Not sure why it's restarting multiple times.. try a factory reset once and see if it helps.
@@ThePhoneFuel sir when i am talk with anyone else its restart automatically. Who is so shocking. So today i will try to 6gb ram hope so its good work. I will check this week. Factory data lost all thing so dont do this.
Back up everything... you won't loose anything
@@ThePhoneFuel ok sir 👍👍
Already working oneui 3.1 this update
On my a13 5G disabling ram plus improved performance but i need to restart everyday
Don't need it as 8GB is more than enough on my Note9. Also it will always be slower than normal RAM no matter what.
Yes, only real life implementation would tell the true scenario. Note 9 having ufs 2.1 storage and a slower processor gives it an added disadvantage if compared to recent models. But lets see. Hopefully it gets useful and doesn't destroy devices.
True i have done it at my s21 ultra and i don't how to disable it now
@@dostijem5118 you can't i have mine on 6gb and it can't be switched off it's Samsung way of telling us they use they so greedy to give us more ram for such a high price.
@@limo9402 i have 21 ultra brother and i selected 2gb ram to have more storage and space free
Its usefull of phones having 3-6gb ram
Have 12 on my new S22 but will it be enough for the next few updates, is exactly why I'm here. The next android generations may be quite up there.
Hi, 12 is more than sufficient for the next 4 updates... Plus the virtual RAM so nothing to be worries about..
After one ui 4 my galaxy S10 plus get slow and Lagging in Game..
What can i do about it
Try a factory reset.
Disable gos
If it says it has 12 gigs of ram and 4 gigs of virtual memory does that mean a** 16 gigs in total
Sort of but we do not know how effective it is...
@@ThePhoneFuel thanks
This feature was not used correctly in your video the ram plus when used properly will give you the option to use 4,6 ,8 gigs
That's available on one ui 4.1. This video was made before one ui 4.1 was released which means on one UI 4.0 there was no option to select the gigs
Hello! Is this possinle to have on samsung tablets? I bought s6 lite which only have 4gb ram. I wanna enable this virtual ram since I'll be using my tablet for digital arts and very light animation. Thank you in advance!
I suppose it's available on latest tablets with one UI 4.0 or 4.1 S6 lite may get an update and the feature may arrive if the tablet is eligible
I see. anyway thank you for a very informative video!
So does it make a 12gb ram a total of 16gb ?
Yes sort of...
It seems all gimmicks, i got this feat on my Samsung A32 now and i dont see any difference. The phone responsiveness is still slow after a while.
I have 4GB and this feature makes no difference, its only states 4gb is virtual memory. Never states whats actually being used. I dont feel its any faster then before it had this feature. Doesnt seem to work at all
Since it got introduced ive never seen the bar go to full 4gb ram on my phone. I have experience major downs and thats why i think this virtual ram isnt doing anything. There are no specs stated about how much is used.
Yes looks like it is a gimmick..
I've noticed it work as it stops the phone freezing and crashing when I've used all 16gb of ram. Which is relatively impossible.
I opened every app. And it didn't crash.
Previous it would have.
Give it a try see if it makes a difference for you, but you need a sample as in you need to know how easily your apps would crash before UI 4.0
Thanks for sharing 👍
@@daggermouth4695 mine never crashed, but often feels slow and seems to stutter. But then I simply clean memory, i got the app as a widget. I had this already before this virtual ram and there is no difference actually
Just looked up on google for if virtual ram could be bad and found Is virtual RAM harmful?
Virtual memory, also known as the swap file, uses part of your hard drive to effectively expand your RAM, allowing you to run more programs than it could otherwise handle. But a hard drive is much slower than RAM, so it can really hurt performance. ... RAM is faster than storage, and you have much less of it.
Thanks for sharing that
One point here is that phone dont have a ram drive, they have flash memory.
That has always been true for PCs that have a classic HDD, but phones have NAND flash memory that is much faster, maybe the read/write is not as fast as its actual LPDDR4 RAM but it could work, I just can't find any comparisons anywhere for read/write speeds
LOL phones do not use hard drives 🤣🤣 it's flash storage
Is there any new vibration pattern?
Need to check that buddy.. Will let you know
Ram Plus increase or decrease your Swapfile, nothing more or less. bigger Swapfile means more apps open and unnecessary app data stored in swap on hard-drive or flash. it's opted out for the time you don't use this/those apps. Ram plus doesn't need more battery, in fact it saves battery bec it's more energy waste to start an app from scratch than to revive it from hard-drive. it's common computer knowledge how Swapfiles or Pagefiles work and why they are so important for every device no matter if you use Windows, iOS or Linux/Android. btw, flash memory is unbreakable for every ordinary user. my s23 has 8gb ram and the best setting is 6gb Ram Plus bec the Swapfile doesn't grow bigger than 4.9gb. for every device with 12gb ram the 8gb preset is optimal. before ppl post nonsense they should read. Google has anything we need. just learn to use it!!
Hello there..
Is this possible on A52 4g
To get the ram plus.
Thanks...
Hello Yes we have it. Check out this video
ua-cam.com/video/tTz20QvIAE4/v-deo.html
@@ThePhoneFuel thanks i got mine now. Nice review, really appreciate your work.
Gob bless for your future.
Thank you ❤️
Hi does the ram plus work on the Samsung galaxy a22 5g
Not sure about that as I don't have that phone with me.. you can check the memory options on your settings menu
yes we need it
It'll probably make the biggest difference on lower end phones like my old a51. But on the z flip 3 I have now I'd probably forget it exists
This is a LG type of memory setting. LG was the only phone maker that let you use SD card storage as internal storage, meaning you could save apps data, and programs that Samsung, Google, or Motorola would not let you do. This is basically the same as having a SD card being recognized as internal storage.
Storage is not RAM and vice versa. Your whole story is about storage. RAM plus is about memory. Do not confuse these two.
Memory and Storage aren't the same thing lmao.
What setting is best for gaming samsung s21 ultra
If you want the best performance set the phone to max performance in battery optimization settings
@@ThePhoneFuel what is the default minimum width dp for samsun s21 ultra
It's all placebo.. If your device has more than 8GB of ram then it's just not needed, it's only for devices under 4GB.
but with this RAM Plus as default. phone feels much slower even for normal tasks... i have compared it with older version and latest. with RAM Plus . its definitely slower than older ONE UI.
anyone noticed ?
I think it isnt optimized on all samsung devices.. It acts the same on mine
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I have note 10 plus with 12gb ram so should I stay on 4gb has default?
Yup it’s of no use when you have 12 gb
@@ThePhoneFuel OK and should I stay on 4 gb or make it 2gb and can I turn it off?
You might as well turn it off.. it's not really needed in my opinion
@@ThePhoneFuel How do I turn it off? and I just set it two 2gb
Turn off toggle is available on One UI 5.0 based on android 12, if you are on one UI 4 you don't get the option to turn it off
It looks to me in 2030 we will need like 64gb ram for Androids lol
Animation plz! Without theme and turn off darkmode plz
I have already made a video on animation.. hope you have seen the videos..
@@ThePhoneFuel hmmm....where??
Check out the recently posted videos on the channel
Its not giving you additional ram... holy fucking shit
Should i turn 4gb to 8gb ?
Not needed if you already have 8 to 12 by default.. if less you can turn on any of them
If I turn it off what happens 🤷
Nothing happens.. it will run as it is supposed to..
@@ThePhoneFuel thanks
Yea my s21 ultra stutters and unresponsive sometimes
Yup the stable release should make it better
Samsung tab 8 opzions ram plus?
Not sure buddy, need to check,, i dont have a tab
It doesnt work on one ui 3.1🤬
No fuction... i have try
12 GB of RAM on my S20U is more than enough
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Ram plus= zram
Real RAM + Virtual RAM = Fake RAM 😆
@@ThePhoneFuel ahahah marketing 🤣