Although it is sad to see the old equipment go, it needed to happen. The old signals and track equipment were most prone to breaking down on the entire network due to their age.
116 years of service. I wonder if the original IRT planners, who were at work before the Wright Brothers flew at Kitty Hawk, ever dreamed that their design would still be in daily use over a century later. It would be like a railroad line being designed today still being in use in 2136.
I've been running on this track as long as I remember, since 1904. i have had many (some weird) memories on that track, and I will very much miss track 3. and i also saw you riding me.
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Great video! Thanks for documenting this, I would've loved to do so myself, but I was there, lol. Too bad you missed my final Track 3 announcement leaving Grand Central on that last trip. It was very cool operating the final revenue half back from Times Square. 💙GCS
@@MIkeDye200202holla Currently the shuttle and one day on the 7. Previously Q and W, shuttle and 4, work trains, etc etc. I like to mix and match each pick.
I haven't used the shuttle in years. I remember mostly how it was in the 50s, 60s and 70s and used to have a reoccurring dream about a guy who had a living room on the mezzanine and gave out subway info to anyone who asked while he sat in a Lazy Boy watching MLB on his T.V.
Well times change, but it's videos like these that make sure memories live on forever! Thankfully however tracks 2 and 3 will be referenced on the new platform.
Thanks for the ride and all the interesting background on the Shuttle. Anyone know if it will still be possible to watch 7th Avenue trains going by from the Times Square Shuttle station? Suggestion: It would be interesting to watch a video devoted to bringing trains in and out of a Shuttle station when they need to be serviced.
Glad you enjoyed it! From what we understand, it will no longer be possible to watch 7th Avenue trains going by once the reconstruction is complete. Regarding your second point, we actually have created just such a video! ua-cam.com/video/ZmwdLANBVxg/v-deo.html
@@DJHTransport Thanks for the reply and link!. Will be sure to watch. Too bad about the other, but glad I at least had a chance to capture a few during visits last year. Always enjoy your videos!
Just did. Fascinating - quite the maneuver! Looking forward to your videos from the completed modernization - including one on how the trains will be swapped from the new configuration!
The 42 Street Shuttle will forever be in the hearts of real New Yorkers. One of my favorite memories of the 42nd Street Shuttle was on October 28, 1986. My friend and I ditched school for a half day to go to the Mets ticker tape parade. We took the 7 train from Flushing H.S. from Main Street. Stopped at Shea Stadium then went express to 42nd Street Times Sqaure. We did the bonehaed thing. We got off at 42nd & Lex @ Grand Central to walk over to track 3 of the 42nd Street Shuttle and the cars were painted Blue and Orange (Mets Team Colors). The train numbers where replaced by the Mets Cap insignias. When the shuttle pulled in. The driver hunk the horn three times to be met by cheering passengers awaiting to board the shuttle.
I did the Shuttle when I was In the A Division . Track 3 was the easiest one to do because on the Time Square side there isn't a bumper block staring right next to you like on track 1. It was enough length to reach the punch for the gap filler. It was much easier on the Grand Central side. You can get up to a good speed before the timers. Nice video DJH!! RIP Track 3!! (1904-2020) Well think of this way track 3 didn't suffer from COVID in this case.😂🤣😂
Track 2 is under the platform. That's why the platform between Track 1 and 3 is wider than the one between Track 3 and 4. Originally, Grand Central was a typical 4 track Express/Local station, the pillars at the edge of the Track 3 platform (which is an unusual location) were once dividers between Track 2 and 3. Times Square was originally a Local only station with 2 side platforms. In 1928, when the 42nd street portion of the original IRT Line became a shuttle due to the extension of the 7th and Lexington Avenue lines, Track 2 was covered with a wooden platform at both stations. In the mid 1960s, the wooden platforms were replaced by concrete platforms.
You know, whenever I see a story like this, I have this crazy idea. They're going to be removing all this interesting old equipment, the signal heads and signage and such. Wouldn't it be cool if rather than just throwing it all in a dumpster, the MTA donated some items to somebody like the NY Transit Museum , and let them auction it off on eBay for charity. The funds could go to the museum or some other worthy organization. They would probably have to make the auctions for the heavy items "local pickup only", and with the current situation they might have to pile the items in a corner somewhere until the pandemic is over. Obviously they would have to make sure whoever they donated the equipment to was willing to put in the time and effort to do the auctions, but they could probably raise a couple thousand dollars that way. (And I might get to display an authentic NYC Transit signal head in my workshop. Yes I'm thinking of myself here too.)
Thanks for the video! Great information! I remember when the Myrtle Avenue el had its last run. We watched it from a window in our fraternity house. It was PACKED!!!
Cool Fact: The shuttle actually had 4 tracks, This was originally part of the 4,5 and 6 lines in the very early days of the subway. Once the Lexington ave lines were extended beyond Grand Central the trains were redirected to the current 4 track upper level. The 4 tracks (now 2) at Grand Central on the shuttle was the original terminus of the 4,5 and 6 lines. That explains why the local and express tracks are segregated by levels at 33rd street. This was because the tracks were and still are leading down as they once did to the original terminus. But they turn and re align with the upper level with the local tracks. That is also why the 6 train takes this hard turn when entering and leaving the station on both sides, it turns to align with the express tracks.. It would have originally terminated on the lower current shuttle level. Yes a lot of work has happened to Grand Central since it's humble beginnings.
Grand Central wasn't a terminal for what became the 4,5, & 6 lines. The original IRT subway started downtown, traveled up the east side, went across 42nd street (Grand Central & Times Square) and then traveled up the west side. When they built the Lexington line from Grand Central north & the 7th Ave line from Times Square south, the original Grand Central & Times Square stations became the shuttle & the Lexington Line & 7th Ave lines got new platforms respectively.
The R62AS aren't going nowhere right now. However the MTA is ordering the brand new,.R262/as for CBTC to replace the R62 R62AS on the 1 3 6 S lines. They just adding 6 car units on the R62AS.
The R62AS are not going to be remove they just Adding 6 car units on the R62AS until the Brand New R262/as to replace the R62 R62AS on the 1 3 6 s lines for CBTS in the future.
It’s been forever since I’ve been on the subway. Was the 1928 signal run with incandescent bulbs? They must have been replaced often. One of the cars looked like it was mostly standing room. There was one other station with big gap fillers that looked like giant metal teeth, I think it was 14th St. is it still around? Must have been extremely advanced for its day.
Reminds me of the tight turning station at 14th St/Union Sq station... the last remains of the original Lenape tribe people dug up and discarded over 100 years ago sadly.
I always wondered why that service hasn't been converted into a dual way (per track) travelator or outo walkway, considering the distance (.44 miles), maintenance, and manpower ...
Someone said there won't be a crossover between track 1 and 4 after work is complete. I'm surprised they didn't think to use a middle track like 3 to be a storage track so as to not rely so much on yards so far from 42nd Street. That means track 4 will have to be supported from the 207th Street Bronx yard on the B'way line and track 1 will be supported by the Livonia Brooklyn IRT yard.
I wonder if in the future track 3 could be used as a passing siding for track 4. And the same for track 2 and 1. That way you could fit 2 trains on each track, departing the terminals at the same time and passing in the middle. It would be nice to have 4 four-car trains on the line rather than 2 six-car trains.
I'm still carrying my old subway map in my satchel that I got from the N.Y. Post over 20 years ago. It's shaped as a metro card. The Post was giving them away for free. Do you think it's time that I should retire it ?
@@jpolar394 Yes I do. I know there are enthusiasts who enjoy transit's history and appreciate old maps! I know there are people who are basically cartography nerds. And often the two overlap 😂
I visited NYC several times between 2002 and 2010. I noticed that track 2 was missing, but didn’t know why. The HBLR tracks at Hoboken Terminal also had a missing number, I think they were numbered H1, H2 and H4, with no H3. Do you know the reason for this? Presumably it wasn’t because a track had been taken out of use because I first used the HBLR to that station soon after it was extended there.
the different contract numbers usually signify different manufacturers or slight changes in design. take a look on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway_rolling_stock
Can't wait to see the finished result. The renders look promising if they give this place any kind of similar treatment like they did with the Enhanced Station Initiative
I may write a letter to the MTA suggesting they put in COUNTDOWN CLOCKS next to each train, displaying the time remaining before its departure (unless they've done this already.) That way people wouldn't rush towards and crowd the last car thinking the train might leave at any moment; knowing they have x minutes before it leaves, people would gravitate towards the train's emptier front cars, evening out its passenger load.
They renovated the whole station so that it’s now one island platformed stop with two tracks. Now we have a few countdown clocks on the platform for both trains.
It's sad that more and .ore historic landmarks of the MTA subway are being scrapped and pulled out of service forever for every month, or few months, or even a couple years. Hopefully people still remember this track as the oldest landmark in the history of the MTA. Just cant believe it's already dead. I'm gonna miss it :(
8:25 Is this the last track 3 train from the night before ? It must not be; otherwise it would have to curve to the left to get to track 1, and then back up through track #1 at Grand Central to take it to the Lexington Ave. southbound local Line # 6 track. No ?? I understand that the original mainline Grand Central was an express station, and Times Square was just a local station with side local platforms. QUESTION. Pete Dougherty's 2011 Track Atlas of NYC Subway shows track #1 at Grand Central curving southbound to get to the southbound Park Ave. local track, but going under that track before joining it from the east side. Cab videos show distinctly that the shuttle track #1 joins the southbound Park Ave. local track (which has Line #6) from the west side without going under that track first. WAS SOMETHING CHANGED SOMETIME, OR WAS PETE WRONG THIS TIME ?? Aarre Peltomaa (Mister track diagram and operating routing nut). p.s. I'm checking to see if anyone knows or cares about this point. p.s.s. I'm very, very interested in knowing how the tracks of this former main line were cut into and out of service to come up with the current arrangement without shutting down service totally while construction was being done. I have the same interest in how the BMT DeKalb Ave grade separation project in the 1950's was sequenced to not totally shut down service over Manhattan Bridge; Or was it totally shut down for 1 or 2 years ??
the gap remind me of south ferry train station . maybe it's been renovated since i was young since i haven't seen it in yeaaars but i think its the 1 train that has a big curve in the station where these metal grate type things filled the gap
I've actually found a video of it altho it docent really show the grates as good u can see the huge gap , i hate the trains but for some reason always luved this station i thought the gap was so cool ua-cam.com/video/Sp6Pp4IN52Q/v-deo.html
RIP Track 3 1904-2020. Going to join its fellow buddy Track 2 in the grave.
So sad.
@@davidsfuntime1652 yea
Why the (bleep) are they shutting down tracks of a station?
@@Boypogikami132 Wider platforms. And if I am not mistaken, longer trains
@HyundaiYang1987 Thanks!
Although it is sad to see the old equipment go, it needed to happen. The old signals and track equipment were most prone to breaking down on the entire network due to their age.
116 years of service. I wonder if the original IRT planners, who were at work before the Wright Brothers flew at Kitty Hawk, ever dreamed that their design would still be in daily use over a century later. It would be like a railroad line being designed today still being in use in 2136.
I've been running on this track as long as I remember, since 1904. i have had many (some weird) memories on that track, and I will very much miss track 3. and i also saw you riding me.
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Great video! Thanks for documenting this, I would've loved to do so myself, but I was there, lol. Too bad you missed my final Track 3 announcement leaving Grand Central on that last trip. It was very cool operating the final revenue half back from Times Square. 💙GCS
Hello I was wondering if TO's who operate the 42nd st shuttle are based at one of 42nd st stations or if they are based as another crew depot..
@@MIkeDye200202holla We start and end at Grand Central
@@poughkipsee82 Thanks for the reply! Do you work any other routes or just the shuttle?
@@MIkeDye200202holla Currently the shuttle and one day on the 7. Previously Q and W, shuttle and 4, work trains, etc etc. I like to mix and match each pick.
You are awesome!!!! Thank you so much
Oh how I regret not taking some more time to observe that shuttle. Who knew there was such fascinating history behind it.
Great documentation of a bit of history here. Looking forward to flying over and riding the NYC subway again one day 🇬🇧
Thanks for the history lesson as well as the documenting of the end of an era.
Man, this is unusually sad to see. RIP 42nd Street Stations Track 3, and long live tracks 1 and 4.
That was both (S)ad & (S)pecial for the shuttle R.I.P Track 3
Is sad to se things from MTA to be abandoned like track 3 for examples or stations that we never see before
As a trackman during the 80s what a fantastic job it was. Now living in Belize.
Belize Navidad
I haven't used the shuttle in years. I remember mostly how it was in the 50s, 60s and 70s and used to have a reoccurring dream about a guy who had a living room on the mezzanine and gave out subway info to anyone who asked while he sat in a Lazy Boy watching MLB on his T.V.
Well times change, but it's videos like these that make sure memories live on forever! Thankfully however tracks 2 and 3 will be referenced on the new platform.
The view is definitely gonna be missed. Seeing the 1 2 3 5 trains some times run on the 7Th Ave line s.
@@leecornwell5632 Rip🪦
RIP TRACK 3 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
This is a great video. IMO it should be displayed at the transit museum for historic reference.
Aight, the switch equipment being used in the gap filler is a real foam fact I never knew that... I applaud the informative nature of the videos bro
R.I.P. Track 3 | 1904 - 2020 | 116 Years
I can't get over how much this guys knows about the NY Subway.
He’s a conductor
@@xpertt4kexclusiveness_mov669 That explains it. He makes great videos.
The second-to-the last one R62A was sad, you can hear it from the door chime
Thank you for cataloguing this - I'm a daily shuttle user, and will miss Track 3.
Oof nice and sad to see it go glad I got stuff of it before it went
😭😭
@HyundaiYang1987 thanks I appreciate it
Track 3 of the IRT 42nd St Shuttle is no more after 116 years in service, I'll be damned!!!
Thanks for the ride and all the interesting background on the Shuttle. Anyone know if it will still be possible to watch 7th Avenue trains going by from the Times Square Shuttle station?
Suggestion: It would be interesting to watch a video devoted to bringing trains in and out of a Shuttle station when they need to be serviced.
Glad you enjoyed it! From what we understand, it will no longer be possible to watch 7th Avenue trains going by once the reconstruction is complete.
Regarding your second point, we actually have created just such a video!
ua-cam.com/video/ZmwdLANBVxg/v-deo.html
@@DJHTransport Thanks for the reply and link!. Will be sure to watch. Too bad about the other, but glad I at least had a chance to capture a few during visits last year. Always enjoy your videos!
Just did. Fascinating - quite the maneuver! Looking forward to your videos from the completed modernization - including one on how the trains will be swapped from the new configuration!
It's been 2 and a half years since the death of track 2 & 3 plus the old 42 st Shuttle equipment 🪦 😔 they'll never be forgotten
Barley anybody lives that long. There are only 3 people alive today who existed before the subway.
Going to miss the old track
Gg
We also definitely gonna miss the view 🪟 seeing the 1 3 2. 5 trains running there.
Suggestion: putting durable plexiglass over track 3 and making ppl looking at history.
The 42 Street Shuttle will forever be in the hearts of real New Yorkers. One of my favorite memories of the 42nd Street Shuttle was on October 28, 1986. My friend and I ditched school for a half day to go to the Mets ticker tape parade. We took the 7 train from Flushing H.S. from Main Street. Stopped at Shea Stadium then went express to 42nd Street Times Sqaure. We did the bonehaed thing. We got off at 42nd & Lex @ Grand Central to walk over to track 3 of the 42nd Street Shuttle and the cars were painted Blue and Orange (Mets Team Colors). The train numbers where replaced by the Mets Cap insignias. When the shuttle pulled in. The driver hunk the horn three times to be met by cheering passengers awaiting to board the shuttle.
RIP Track 3: 1904-2020
Thank you very much for your dedication of service to the people of New York City 🇺🇸🍁🍰🥧
RIP TRACK 3
1904-2020
I did the Shuttle when I was In the A Division . Track 3 was the easiest one to do because on the Time Square side there isn't a bumper block staring right next to you like on track 1. It was enough length to reach the punch for the gap filler. It was much easier on the Grand Central side. You can get up to a good speed before the timers. Nice video DJH!! RIP Track 3!! (1904-2020) Well think of this way track 3 didn't suffer from COVID in this case.😂🤣😂
Thank you for taking the time to document this.
I love your tour videos! Please do more, I miss them!!!
Rip track 3, gone but not forgotten :(
F. We will always remember track 3.
I’m actually kinda crying in the inside.
damn that conductor speedrunning the announcements.
Great video! The Times Square Shuttle is truly an icon of the city. Hope this is the right direction.
Thank you great video. Really appreciate your work. 👍👍❤️
I hope that they preserve some of that old equipment, like the 1908 equipment box.
Where is track 2 then? Is it already under the platform in between track 1 and track 3? If so, the platform they had in 1904 was so narrow!
Track 2 is under the platform. That's why the platform between Track 1 and 3 is wider than the one between Track 3 and 4. Originally, Grand Central was a typical 4 track Express/Local station, the pillars at the edge of the Track 3 platform (which is an unusual location) were once dividers between Track 2 and 3. Times Square was originally a Local only station with 2 side platforms. In 1928, when the 42nd street portion of the original IRT Line became a shuttle due to the extension of the 7th and Lexington Avenue lines, Track 2 was covered with a wooden platform at both stations. In the mid 1960s, the wooden platforms were replaced by concrete platforms.
@@OGR-42 right, and I believe the wooden platform at Grand Central burned down and that required extensive repairs.
And a new entrance on 42nd & Vandy @ grand central, coming soon.
Man for 2.5 years, always used the shuttle coming from Stamford to work in the city. Haven’t used the shuttle since moving to NC in August of 2018.
This is very cool. Thanks for documenting this in such detail.
You know, whenever I see a story like this, I have this crazy idea. They're going to be removing all this interesting old equipment, the signal heads and signage and such. Wouldn't it be cool if rather than just throwing it all in a dumpster, the MTA donated some items to somebody like the NY Transit Museum , and let them auction it off on eBay for charity. The funds could go to the museum or some other worthy organization. They would probably have to make the auctions for the heavy items "local pickup only", and with the current situation they might have to pile the items in a corner somewhere until the pandemic is over.
Obviously they would have to make sure whoever they donated the equipment to was willing to put in the time and effort to do the auctions, but they could probably raise a couple thousand dollars that way. (And I might get to display an authentic NYC Transit signal head in my workshop. Yes I'm thinking of myself here too.)
*Donating* to the Transit Museum? I wouldn't call that a donation.
Thank you for capturing this moment and sharing!
Thanks for the video! Great information! I remember when the Myrtle Avenue el had its last run. We watched it from a window in our fraternity house. It was PACKED!!!
Cool Fact: The shuttle actually had 4 tracks, This was originally part of the 4,5 and 6 lines in the very early days of the subway. Once the Lexington ave lines were extended beyond Grand Central the trains were redirected to the current 4 track upper level. The 4 tracks (now 2) at Grand Central on the shuttle was the original terminus of the 4,5 and 6 lines. That explains why the local and express tracks are segregated by levels at 33rd street. This was because the tracks were and still are leading down as they once did to the original terminus. But they turn and re align with the upper level with the local tracks. That is also why the 6 train takes this hard turn when entering and leaving the station on both sides, it turns to align with the express tracks.. It would have originally terminated on the lower current shuttle level. Yes a lot of work has happened to Grand Central since it's humble beginnings.
Correct me if i'm wrong. Constructive criticism is always appreciated.
Grand Central wasn't a terminal for what became the 4,5, & 6 lines. The original IRT subway started downtown, traveled up the east side, went across 42nd street (Grand Central & Times Square) and then traveled up the west side. When they built the Lexington line from Grand Central north & the 7th Ave line from Times Square south, the original Grand Central & Times Square stations became the shuttle & the Lexington Line & 7th Ave lines got new platforms respectively.
wow, that equipment lasted a long time. nothing we make today would last that long
The R62AS aren't going nowhere right now. However the MTA is ordering the brand new,.R262/as for CBTC to replace the R62 R62AS on the 1 3 6 S lines. They just adding 6 car units on the R62AS.
Will the original tile work. Still be on 42 street? As well as the old red rails from 1904. Or will that be removed to?
RIP Track 3, it was neat to see the 123 trains from that unique opening in TS Station.
What’s the point of this subway line?
I hope that all that old equipment that is going to be removed goes to the museum.
The R62AS are not going to be remove they just Adding 6 car units on the R62AS until the Brand New R262/as to replace the R62 R62AS on the 1 3 6 s lines for CBTS in the future.
Also when they add 6 cars will be the same operations one Train Operator operate other gets doors or Conductors will be added?
It’s been forever since I’ve been on the subway. Was the 1928 signal run with incandescent bulbs? They must have been replaced often. One of the cars looked like it was mostly standing room. There was one other station with big gap fillers that looked like giant metal teeth, I think it was 14th St. is it still around? Must have been extremely advanced for its day.
Reminds me of the tight turning station at 14th St/Union Sq station... the last remains of the original Lenape tribe people dug up and discarded over 100 years ago sadly.
5:45 I just love that the train car number says “1953” lol
Love the text history narrative. Reminds me of your earlier videos.
Very interesting.. Thank you..
Thank you for your time! Go network.
I love New York!🤠🤠🤠👍
This is really sad. Track 3 was my fav.
This is like the Waterloo & City line in London
Nope this is way shorter
Great posting
Thank god i got on that track a lot
I always wondered why that service hasn't been converted into a dual way (per track) travelator or outo walkway, considering the distance (.44 miles), maintenance, and manpower ...
Oh well, Part's of it's history will be torn down.
I hope the old signals from the 1900s-1920s will be preserved and put in the Transit Museum.
Another excellent video. I'll miss the character of the old Shuttle with its vintage signal equipment.
They will, probably?, continue the #1 South Side eastern connection to Lexington and #4 North Side western end connection to B'way-7th?? Will the #1>
Well done video very educational. I remember an old wooded dolly cart at the end of the station in the wide. It looked like it was the early 1900"s
I'll be sad to see it go. Love the original signalling equipment used down there.
Someone said there won't be a crossover between track 1 and 4 after work is complete. I'm surprised they didn't think to use a middle track like 3 to be a storage track so as to not rely so much on yards so far from 42nd Street. That means track 4 will have to be supported from the 207th Street Bronx yard on the B'way line and track 1 will be supported by the Livonia Brooklyn IRT yard.
The shuttle will continue to be entirely based out of Livonia Yard, as it always was in the past.
I wish I'd known, it would've been so easy to hop the train and pay a visit down there for the final run.
I used the shuttle many many years. Its just a train and a track. But sad to see it go.
I wonder if in the future track 3 could be used as a passing siding for track 4. And the same for track 2 and 1. That way you could fit 2 trains on each track, departing the terminals at the same time and passing in the middle. It would be nice to have 4 four-car trains on the line rather than 2 six-car trains.
That would not be necessary. Shuttle service is already frequent enough
That is so sad to see closed. I have never stepped foot on any of these tracks.
I remember riding the (S) on track 3 so many times. I can’t believe it’s the last time it will ever run :(
The concrete is so clean- it looks like they just re-laid it. Why would they do that if the track was soon to be abandoned?
Thanks for sharing 👍
I'm still carrying my old subway map in my satchel that I got from the N.Y. Post over 20 years ago. It's shaped as a metro card. The Post was giving them away for free. Do you think it's time that I should retire it ?
If you need it for navigation, then yeah, probably. Otherwise I think you have a gem in your hands XD
@@samuelitooooo .......You mean I actually might have something that's worth a few bucks in that bag besides a few notebooks and pens and pencils ? 😃😃
@@jpolar394 Yes I do. I know there are enthusiasts who enjoy transit's history and appreciate old maps! I know there are people who are basically cartography nerds. And often the two overlap 😂
You had me at the word “Abandonment”
I am going to miss those gap fillers. At least Union Square still has them
I visited NYC several times between 2002 and 2010. I noticed that track 2 was missing, but didn’t know why.
The HBLR tracks at Hoboken Terminal also had a missing number, I think they were numbered H1, H2 and H4, with no H3. Do you know the reason for this? Presumably it wasn’t because a track had been taken out of use because I first used the HBLR to that station soon after it was extended there.
DJ Why do certain trains have an A in them is that a meaning?
the different contract numbers usually signify different manufacturers or slight changes in design. take a look on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway_rolling_stock
Can't wait to see the finished result. The renders look promising if they give this place any kind of similar treatment like they did with the Enhanced Station Initiative
quite sad even if I didn't know about till today
great video but also sad 👍🚇😭
I remember taking this train all the time to grand central to get buy stuff
Well, at least the track 3 cars can be used for the trains on tracks 1 and 4.
I may write a letter to the MTA suggesting they put in COUNTDOWN CLOCKS next to each train, displaying the time remaining before its departure (unless they've done this already.) That way people wouldn't rush towards and crowd the last car thinking the train might leave at any moment; knowing they have x minutes before it leaves, people would gravitate towards the train's emptier front cars, evening out its passenger load.
They renovated the whole station so that it’s now one island platformed stop with two tracks. Now we have a few countdown clocks on the platform for both trains.
A very lovely video. Is the Franklin Avenue Shuttle still in existence?
Yes.
It's sad that more and .ore historic landmarks of the MTA subway are being scrapped and pulled out of service forever for every month, or few months, or even a couple years. Hopefully people still remember this track as the oldest landmark in the history of the MTA. Just cant believe it's already dead. I'm gonna miss it :(
I gonna miss the middle track to al as well.
8:25 Is this the last track 3 train from the night before ? It must not be; otherwise it would have to curve to the left to get to track 1, and then back up through track #1 at Grand Central to take it to the Lexington Ave. southbound local Line # 6 track. No ??
I understand that the original mainline Grand Central was an express station, and Times Square was just a local station with side local platforms.
QUESTION. Pete Dougherty's 2011 Track Atlas of NYC Subway shows track #1 at Grand Central curving southbound to get to the southbound Park Ave. local track, but going under that track before joining it from the east side. Cab videos show distinctly that the shuttle track #1 joins the southbound Park Ave. local track (which has Line #6) from the west side without going under that track first. WAS SOMETHING CHANGED SOMETIME, OR WAS PETE WRONG THIS TIME ?? Aarre Peltomaa (Mister track diagram and operating routing nut).
p.s. I'm checking to see if anyone knows or cares about this point.
p.s.s. I'm very, very interested in knowing how the tracks of this former main line were cut into and out of service to come up with the current arrangement without shutting down service totally while construction was being done. I have the same interest in how the BMT DeKalb Ave grade separation project in the 1950's was sequenced to not totally shut down service over Manhattan Bridge; Or was it totally shut down for 1 or 2 years ??
Imagine someone who saw the first run on the track and now saw the last.
Could you do a another video on Corona Queens
The middle track being removed is actually better because you have a lot more walking space and platforms are not so tight anymore
Indeed it is and it makes quite a difference.
@@TheRailLeaguer now at Grand Central Station is a lot of walking spaced out with a new entrance to Madison Avenue
I don't know if anyone asked this. But will there still be that track that track access onto the 7th Ave line, when trains need to be serviced?
Yes.
now I can officially say I never got to ride off from track 3
Very interesting. thanks for posting this.
the gap remind me of south ferry train station . maybe it's been renovated since i was young since i haven't seen it in yeaaars but i think its the 1 train that has a big curve in the station where these metal grate type things filled the gap
I've actually found a video of it altho it docent really show the grates as good u can see the huge gap , i hate the trains but for some reason always luved this station i thought the gap was so cool
ua-cam.com/video/Sp6Pp4IN52Q/v-deo.html
that version closed in 2017 after the new one which previously opened in 2009 and closed in 2012 due to Sandy, reopened in 2017