Third Party Candidates Won't Save Us
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- Use code LEEJA50 to get 50% OFF First Box and free wellness shots for life with any active subscription at bit.ly/3lJJNlZ! | 3rd party candidates are an attractive option for the 2024 election, including Robert F Kennedy Jr, Jill Stein, and Cornel West. But under our current system, voting for third party candidates won't provide the answer we're looking for.
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Unless and until the Electoral College is dismantled, we will never have good choices for President. I've railed against the EC my whole voting life, over 40 years.
Wrong, that would make two states control every election. California and new York.
Amen
For America to abolished the electoral college it has to abolished and criminalized conservatism
completely agree.
Is there a group fighting against the Electoral College?
It's a shame a Third Party won't win, because I think Biden AND Trump losing to a third party would be hilarious. Buut, they'd probably be blocked from doing anything out of spite by both sides.
The real question is, will you do your part and vote for a 3rd party in your local and presidential elections? The "system" will change when we decide to change.
@@janusroland Well, for one, I'm not American so, much as I want the system to change, I can't help directly. Also, Republicans and Democrats have, from my understanding, made their way into being the only two viable options by working their way up from the bottom for centuries.
President Biden Round 2 doesn't thrill me, but it's a far sight better than Fuhrer Trump Round 2.
@@shadowldragoMost Americans were economically better off under Trump, so your perception is way off imo.
@@thatguyyouhatealot He has a fascist cult and the Republicans openly have a plan to turn the U.S into a fascist dictatorship exploiting legal loopholes. He has managed to make the hatred against minorities even worse. There's no scenario where him winning a second time goes well.
2020 and COVID would like to speak with you. No, COVID was not "just a flu" like anti-vaxxers like Jill, RFK, and Trump want you to believe.
The problem is the US doesn’t have Proportional Representation, that’s why other parties find it so hard to breakthrough.
You need to educate the people about politics and ideology first before people can understand where they land. But they also need the time to be able to learn. Which means we need better standards of living, material conditions, and economy that will allow this. Capitalism is squeezing the overwhelming majority of us to the point where we struggle to survive to the point where many don’t have the energy or time to actually sit and learn about where they stand so they know how to be civically engaged. The root of all of this is Capitalism.
Proportional Representation would literally mean NOTHING for this video. This video really concerns presidential elections, which involves electing for one position - your can't proportionally allocate to one position.
For America to have a multi party system it has to abolished and criminalized conservatism
@@Okieant Google is free
Agreed. Proportional is the way to go. Get rid of the electoral college and start doing Proportional Representation would fix a whole lot of problems and generally make us a stronger democracy. I have so many friends who won't vote because of the electoral college, and it's very very hard to argue with them. It's a ridiculously terrible system.
you know, USA’s polarisation is so extreme that i had no idea they even HAD more than two parties
We don't really, we just occasionally have mavericks who can use vote splitting to threaten one of the big parties. It inevitably leads to disaster.
nah ur just dumb
I mean, they don’t win so it’s not like it makes a difference
Honestly don't blame you, I didn't know for a while either.
Edit: I was born and raised in the US and still live here, lol. Sadly.
The two party system is fascist. If you vote for democrats or republicans, you are voting for fascism. 👍
We did a class project in 8th grade, 2000. We ran our own election using the points from each person running. We did rank voting though. Green party took the cake by a long shot, we were all sad and shocked when Bush won since in our project he lost . Memories lol
Bush didn't win, they threw away democrats ballot vote counts in Florida and the right wing supreme court awarded the election to Bush by stopping the count. Gore would have won.
Yeah because all of your teachers and school administration didn't spend 10 months telling you how the Green party didn't stand a chance, how it was a waste of your vote and you should be ashamed of yourself if you waste your vote on the party you like and you should vote for what they tell you to.
"Which one are you voting for? Trump or Biden?"
It's already subconsciously presented as a choice between two.
VOTE JILL STEIN 2024!
Bro I remember voting 3rd party for a mock election in 7th grade and my social studies teacher called me an idiot in front of the whole class
Desperation looter agitprop
I like that the libertarian party ideals are just I want to perpetually be a 14 year old crybaby bitching about their parents.
As opposed to never growing up and never wanting to be independent of your parents? That is the 2 parties we have now.
They have some good points, but much of it falls apart under real scrutiny. The fact that many of them regard Ron Swanson (an obviously satirical representation of libritarianism) to be an icon of their party says a lot. To be fair, no other party has anyone better, but still.
Party of screw everyone else, I got mine. Self absorbed turds 😂
If you believe the government to fulfill the role of your “parent”, then you are already probably too far gone to understand why people don’t want to be effectively owned by a state.
@@JustanothermusicnerdxoNah, we just realize the government is actually the best way to represent the needs and wants of a large society when it hasn’t been corrupted by money to the extent ours has. We can’t live in a functioning society where everyone gets to live by their own individual rules all the time. We need a collective rule book.
the USA needs proportional Ranked-Choice voting
The Americans need to stop trying to salvage their oppressive system of governance.
@@toomanycharacter ikr
@@shzarmai (that includes you, you know? saying USA needs {voting system} without further elaboration is impying that the current overall form of governance is acceptable and just needs to be reformed in some areas)
@@toomanycharacter what I meant was that the USA needed a new, more inclusive way of voting to help all peoples' voices to be heard ideally and to help break the duopoly that is constricting American politics. And yes, I am aware that the US is a corporatocracy (just like South Korea) so combining (or fusing together) the proportional ranked-choice voting with more* revitalised Third places for generating social gatherings & rekindling the building of communities, Workplace autonomy (job control)/workplace democracy (if possible) & Georgist policies like a Land value tax/affordable housing would be great imo.
@@toomanycharacter like come one, I am not* saying the current US socioeconomic/political system is great
Two-party systems just seem like a way to make sure voting doesn't mean much and that democracy is out of reach. That you forever have to choose the lesser of something, rather than a candidate you actually believe in and share values with more closely.
We need rank choice voting, and no more electoral college!!!
well, there are also primaries
For America to have a constitutional and electoral reform it has to abolished and criminalized conservatism
@@waytoobiasedprimaries just snuff out viable candidates with lobby-paid plants.
I also have to stress that the reason Gen Z feels this way is because for every election we’ve ever participated in the alternative has been the same fascist. This “lesser of two evils” stuff is really weird if you look at historical trends, at least in the sense of both candidates being extremely unpopular.
@@ultimateeick2910 Exactly!
Election of 1992: "You don't have any experience."
Ross Perot's actual response: "You're right. I don't have any experience messing things up."
I will always hear, "Can I finish!?" whenever Ross Perot is brought up.
We tried a guy with no experience in 2016. Didn't work so well.
@@lordpessimism that's THE WHOLE TRUTH!
@lordpessimism That's because that person was a pathological liar and narcissist, something Perot wasn't.
There is a big difference tho between no specific political experience from someone who WANTS the job, and no experience from someone doing it for fame, clout, and power. Still a risk, but looking at the history of a person's views and behaviors can help shape what they might do and how they are viewed. @@lordpessimism
If Synema is part of the No Labels Party then run away, run away fast.
They tout themselves as bi-partisan but if you look carefully at that list, the majority displayed are republicans. Combine that with the commentary about them embracing "moderates" like Synema, and it becomes pretty suspicious as to what their values really are.
Synema is dangerously close to republican.
@@allisonking3553she is republican, but that grift is packed. She has to distinguish herself somehow.
@@allisonking3553 She always was.
@@allisonking3553 She smelled money and turned traitor.
Get rid of the electoral college.
It’s in the constitution, it’s not going anywhere. The best we can do is get the vote out for progressive candidates and hope the Supreme Court’s majority switches to overturn Citizens United.
@@jpt7342 Then, if the constitution goes against what the people need/want, shouldn't it be changed?
@@shadowldrago
The process for a constitutional amendment would require too many state legislatures to vote against their own interests to happen.
@@jpt7342That, sadly, sounds about right.
We'll need an Article 5 Constitutional Convention to get that done.
More confirmation that a 250 year old document maybe isnt the best way to run a country
It's supposed to be a living document, yet the last time an amendment got passed was in....1992 and it dealt with...compensation of elected legislative branch officials.
Too many people think keeping things as they are is the way to go. It's fine leaving a Electoral College in place, even though it was only created because of slavery, and is obsolete. Too many people think 9 should be the magic number for SCOTUS judges, when it's supposed to grow with the population. Same with Congress. It was never supposed to be permanently capped at 435 house members.
Other developed countries have no problem making amendments to their constitution every few years. But in the US, too many people want to keep an outdated 200+ year-old system in place.
@@mrbyzantine0528 The thing is, even the people who made it didn't expect it to last long. They thought it would be replaced every so often, with Jefferson even writing that he expected the US to have a revolution every couple decades.
I have a better interactive meta-theory of justice: a Mathematical Meta-Theory of Justice.@@redsilversnake
Literally. So many other countries that have constitutions CHANGE THEM ALL THE TIME. Are they perfect? No, but they are not nearly as bad of a dumpster fire as we are.
Kennedy running for president, unironically thinking, "Nothing bad ever happens to the Kennedys!"
Denial is heavy in this one 😂
The Kennedy's are cursed. I see Death flags yards away.
See A Boy and His Dog
RFK wants the government to bully and enslave women now.
The current political system makes it quite difficult for third party and independent candidates to have influence or spread awareness of their cause on the national level, especially with the two major political parties having large influence on the electoral process within this country. Not against the idea of having alternatives to the two party system. But that whole system would need to be overhauled before anyone not Democrat or Republican could have any viable shot at national office.
The real question is, will you do your part and vote for a 3rd party in your local and presidential elections? The "system" will change when we decide to change.
So we need to support the alternatives until they are viable then right?
@@janusroland Have a better shot at starting on the local level for a third party or independent candidate and working things up from there. The two major parties have too much influence at the state and national levels for any candidate outside of them to be viable currently.
proportional Ranked-Choice Voting is really needed
@@janusrolandplease learn how the electoral college works.
Finland has a similar system to Denmark and it's so much better than what the US has. But we're becoming a lot more polarised than before, and we have neonazis in government right now
All of Europe is facing a growth in extreme rightist parties. The dutch party PVV made a sudden ginormous growth in the November elections, and polls show they could potentially get many more, almost enough for a single party majority :/ Europe didn’t learn from its history and is now voting for nazism, but everywhere
Norway is getting there as well. A Thatcherite is leading the polls, with a Le Pen -alike at her side in a separate party. The extremist right, fully fascists, are still without much power though. They hold seats in some municipalities, but not the State.
Sorry about the Finland situation.
I guess that is the danger... a reworking of the last Canadian federal election results to show what the result would have been with proportional representation also gave our most far-right party several seats in parliament; with our actual current system they lost the one seat they had. Perhaps what is needed is some kind of commitment to agreed upon constitutional values such as non-discrimination. Surely a democratic society should set these boundaries.... I see no justification for allowing a neonazi party any traction.
@@slowpainfulThe German constitution gives a framework for this. They give the constitutional court the authority to ban political parties which campaign on an anti-democratic platform, with Nazi-like parties being in mind when they wrote that. It has been used numerous times now to dismantle neo-nazi parties, and it seems it's about to be used against the AfD (hopefully). So you could expand that to protect against parties that wish to deprive people of basic human rights.
Countries that have an actual libertarian party progress. Others fail.
My problem is that there is a collective cry for 3rd party presidential candidates, but I don’t see that same energy for Congress and other positions. Like what’s the point of having a 3rd party president but Congress is still ran by the same 2 fricken parties? To me it’s another example of too much emphasis being on who the president is and not enough on other important positions like Congress.
Democrats sue third parties off the ballot in those elections. Getting federal funding in a national election would make it easier for third parties to fight the Democrats keeping them off the ballot in court
We ignore congressional elections way too much in general. They're arguably far more important than the president.
@@hmnhntr exactly!!
@@hmnhntrCongress is the key. The presidency has become way too powerful since GW Bush, only because Congress let it happen.
Because media doesn’t like to remind people when to vote congress and senate. Nobody likes to talk about that. :)
Vote 3rd party!! They won't save us from the 2+candidates were told are our only options in a population of 340 million people, but not showing up means nothing, and voting for the lesser of evils gives indoctrinated good behavior. 3rd party vote is a simple rebellion against the dystopian system we currently have and screams"enough" of this bs. Vote 3rd party... who knows maybe enough of us do it and someone else wins
Each leveraged LP spoiler vote is also recorded permanently in history and OFTEN helps voters topple the lousier of two looters. Libertarian donations get 200x the votes gotten by a dollar wasted on the looters.
So it's Hitler, Stalin or a waste? No spoiler clout?
I remember my parents and grandparents (and their generations, in general) used to _identify_ as a party member (even if not registered). That's something that thankfully seems to have waned heavily with Millenials and Zoomers.
My Papa once told me that in his county in Texas, there used to be a box where you would just check _Vote Republican_ or _Vote Democrat_ and it would just auto-count your vote to a member of that party *in every race on the ballot.* 😮😵💫😵 That is - ironically - the most undemocratic ballot I've ever heard of.
Still exists in some areas. To clarify, that isn't your only option for how to vote in those areas. You can always get the full ballot. It's simply a popular option for people who just want to vote party line. Which I think is still politically unhealthy, but hardly undemocratic.
Those checkboxes still exist today on ballots, at least in Alabama. You can just check that and it selects the options you selected. I’m in Alabama and so it’s a nice bubble to fill in since pretty much every conservative here is batshit, so the “vote straight democrat” button is a convenience so I don’t have to manually do it myself. 🤷
I am an ex pat living in Portugal. It became a democracy in 1975, and afopted the rank choice system. Very few if any other than the US have 2 party systems. As a note, Denmark was ranked as the least corrupt in the world!
do you mean an immigrant? you're not an expat.
@@helpanimals- I am a US citizen living abroad, born in LA. The terms mean the same thing. Portuguese consider me an immigrant, In the US I am considered an Expat because I may plan to return in the future! I have a permanent residency in Portugal but I am not a citizen. I can vote in US elections but not in Portuguese elections. Now you are educated!
California has ranked choice
@@PeterWetherill Portuguese in here, just a small correction, Portugal have a proportional voting system (D'Hondt method) and not a rank choice system.
Regarding the expat or immigrant discussion is irrelevant. You're welcome.
@@Tocoolant You are correct and can use Google, but my point is that the US system has not been copied by other countries because of the serious flaws that could eventually destroy the country!
Ngl, a two-party-system just feels like a long road to conservatism and fascism...
It is :/
Love your profile pic btw! The art looks great. /gen@@xRaiofSunshine
Yep
I think it’s not a road to fascism, it’s just fascism in a friendlier face. It’s already here.
A multi-party system is how the original fascist governments came to power, though.
Ranked choice voting in Maine made a difference during the 2018 miderms, Maine's 2nd congressional district was a close race between the republican and democratic candidates and neither reached the 50% majority needed to win outright on first-choice votes, it was something like 48% to 47% in favor of the republican. However once the 2nd choice votes were counted for those who voted for the 3rd party candidates, the majority of those votes went to the Democratic candidate, proving the effectiveness of ranked choice voting quite well because without ranked choice, the result would have been different if you assume everyone's first choice would have been the same. the ranked choice system effectively just eliminates the notion of "spoiler" 3rd party votes, and is essentially just a runoff.
But of course, the republicans saw this as a stolen election and have been fighting to repeal ranked choice voting ever since.
Why does everyone forget that a third-party candidate for president would be unable to do much of what they promised without a friendly congress behind them? To be effective they would need a third-party congress as well.
While that would concern me… we could finally have the conversation about the two party system.
Thank you for stating this! The three branches of government won’t go away with an independent candidate.
What’s makes you think the other two could get anything more done? LOL
So what's the difference from right now...?
We have to start somewhere. I’m not voting against my interest because I’m afraid congress won’t like the candidate I choose.
Kodos: It’s a two-party system! You have to vote for one of us!
Man: Well, I believe I’ll vote for a third-party candidate.
Kang: Go ahead-throw your vote away! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This Simpsons reference is a great illustration of why voting for non-mainstream candidates is a good idea.
Voting 3rd party just helps the 2 parties win because there is not enough libertarians to win more than a small election where it won't matter nationwide.
@@DarkepyonXAnd who would want Libertarians to win, anyways? The people against driver's licenses? No thank you.
A libertarian spoiler vote packs two dozen times the law-changing clout of a vote wasted on the kleptocracy. We change laws. Idiots just change politicians.
A libertarian vote packs 2 dozen times the law-changing clout as a bootlicking vote!
The heart of the issue looks simple: you can't think of it as black and white. It's not about the "team." BUT it's so engrained in the collective country's mind that it's one or the other and everything else is a waste, which is so complex. It's basically a negative feedback loop. It'd take some sort of insane event or one of the major parties doing something so wild that people would abandon it. Even if the Electoral College was thrown out, people would still stick to the party labels because it's what they know and it's the easiest thing to do. If only we took Washington's advice seriously so long ago.
The only way to influence the big parties, because blackmailing them only lets the opponent win, is to let them win SO much that the opponent has to adapt. This has happened in the past, but the equilibrium is too strong now.
@johnnyfulton4755 I don't know. I mean, the GOP is losing a lot recently. I think we're close to a potential shift or the wholesale colapse of the GOP.
And that insane event will most likely have to involve violence and a lot of death.
@@DracoMagnius LOL no. 2024 is shaping to be a low-turnout election which benefits Trump massively. The MAGA base will show up in full-force while American liberals will stay home. Look at the Democrat primaries in South Carolina for example. Only 4% of registered voters voted in that election! 4!!!! That's 2.something percent of citizens in SC! Even for an incumbent not in a competitive primary, that is awful.
"If only we took Washington's advice seriously so long ago."
If only Washington or one of our other founding daddies, in their infinite wisdom, had proposed an actual mechanism to prevent a two-party system from developing instead of just saying "Be good while Daddy's gone," before they peaced out.
A majority vote for a 3rd party candidate will not be ignored, nor is it impossible. The only thing holding us back are non-voters who are the only people truly throwing away their votes.
That is misleading. Libertarian spoiler votes are right now defending female rights and repealing violent laws telling cops to shoot kids over plant leaves. THAT is winning. Believe that winning is something politicians do and you lose.
Well put. But the entrenched looters spend millions blaring the opposite over and over...
Walmart just announced that their profit for the 4th quarter hit $1 billion.... Hello 👋👋👋👋
Neither will the two main parties, there are no political parties that will save us.
Spoiler vote clout from fanatics brought the 16th and 18th Amendments. Libertarians use them as a wedge to repeal bad laws by helping voters defeat the worst candidate
As an autistic person, there is no way in hell I'm voting for RFK.
same!
Amen! RFK is shit.
No one should be voting for RFK Jr. He's atrocious and a conspiracy nut.
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It makes no difference who we vote for. Remember, the purpose of government is to MAINTAIN the status quo not change it, and besides our political process is so corrupt only a revolution can bring about any meaningful change at this point. And frankly America is just not ready.
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I would ask you all to reconsider your decision to refuse to elect a third party candidate... but mainly at the local and state levels.
Third party and unaffiliated candidates at the local level may actually be the best people to represent you and your concerns.
These candidates might then be found to be very effective legislators and could then be elevated to congressional positions and from there the president and courts.
The US constitution has been purposely designed to make political change SLOW - and reduce the risk of tyranny by autocracy.
Keep at it and change will come
I'm all for voting third party at local and state elections. I'm against doing it at the presidential election where it amounts to a protest vote, which directly aids the Republicans, because of the Electoral College advantage and their core base that will always show up for them. Especially since most of the people I'm seeing talking about voting third party are on the Left, who "can't vote for Biden in good conscience" because of Gaza, as though letting Trump into the White House will somehow improve things there and not just make things worse here.
They are. But the leveraged clout changes laws at all levels.
Didn’t RFK say he vaccinated his kids but thinks that vaccines should be looked at more closely to ensure safety? I swear I heard him say that somewhere
If you think that makes him a hypocrite I would think again. For profit companies (such as the ones producing the vaccines) have been known to cut corners for the sake of profit. Food and medicine need to be some of the most closely watched products.
See the Reason interview.
Yes, he said that, but he just thinks that they should be studied more, he’s not against vaccines, never has been, him and his family have all been vaccinated.
Again,
He isn’t anti-vax, his a skeptic. People should be allowed to be skeptics without being considered as “completely against the idea”
"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal."
Emma Goldman (1869 - 1940)
Well, they are trying to make it harder to vote.
have you seen the voter suppression and gerrymandering going on at the state level?
@@synthstatic9889 Because they want to be the dominant party, to the GOP, being elected makes a difference. They're impatient to enact today that which the Dems would enact tomorrow.
Her party did, in Russia, China, Hungary, Poland...
@@libertariantranslator1929 Emma Golman did not have a party. She was a hard core anarchist.
I agree, and this is why we're in the horrible situation of our farcical two party non-choice. Our ruling class couldn't care less about what the citizens of this country need or want. If we keep being talked into voting for "the lesser of two evils" we're going to continue getting more of the same. I'm only willing to vote for candidates who reflect my values or not at all. If the country goes into the toilet because of it, so be it.
Exactly. The Demopublicans/Republicrats keep winning b/c people keep voting for them. *Don't be a part of the problem.*
Yep,
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Ranked choice has to be forced by the other parties through vote splitting
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Observe that looters believe in force
As a German, I'm always in favor of the multi-party-system. Yet the road for USA would be this: First, convince a party of the benefit. Second, make it their main campaign promise. Third: let them keep their promise or refuse to vote for their candidates again. Long way, but best way.
I'm honestly surprised the Republicans haven't done that. It would basically destroy the Democrat party permanently, and the Republicans wouldn't have to deal with as much breakup aside from libertarians leaving.
Won’t stop me from voting for Kennedy
Voting libertarian is voting principles. Voting a dynastic monarch isn't.
@@libertariantranslator1929what?
Kleptocracy just the same.
Wasted vote
@@RB01.10 Hillary's last words...
Neither will the two party system. In reality, nobody is going to save you, especially not a politician.
Canada has a similar problem. No party other than the Liberals or the Conservatives has ever won a federal election. The NDP has always been popular, but they've basically served as a way of splitting the liberal vote between progressive and 'moderate' liberals. What differentiates the NDP is that they are (at least nominally) a workers' party that fights for better working conditions and fairer taxation.
At 28:10 you wrote 'negotiotion' instead of 'negotiation'
Why put moderate in quotation marks?
The UK in a nutshell
Canada got a libertarian party and rid itself of all girl-bullying abortion laws
Our government is just so archaic
Fuck the two party system
WINNING is repealing bad laws. The looters want you to believe winning is being robbed by the Kleptocracy instead of leveraging repeal of bad laws
Too late. The oligarchs won't let go.
morally cannot vote for biden or trump this year, definitely will be voting third party.
Why?
It’s a waste of a vote
it doesn’t matter anymore for me. the establishment needs to know we don’t want them
Thank you for referring to our system in Denmark, Leeja! I am very proud of it, and it works exactly as you have stated!
Cornel West actually has one more gig on his resume that you forgot to mention: he's in the commentaries as one of the 2 philosophers who loved The Matrix Trilogy. He had me laughing so hard at how he saw the movies!
RFK Jr is popular because he actually has integrity. He listens to people and has intelligent respectful conversations.#Kennedy24
Make electricity illegal because Climate Sharknado! Intelligent.
She is wrong about the ‘single plurality winner’…both Canada and the United Kingdom have ‘first past the post’ electoral systems, AND many healthy third parties. The difference is that 3rd party candidates in the USA always want to start at the top.
Third parties in the USA would be better to start by winning a state government election or a couple seats in congress, instead of trying for the presidency.
That’s kind of depressing.
Thinking about the trajectory we would have been on if we had Gore is something that still haunts me. It was the first presidential election I was old enough to understand and have severely felt the consequences of.
2. This video mentions briefly something that needs to be focused on a bit more: the two major political parties tend to blame voters who vote for non-mainstream candidates when their candidate loses rather than themselves for nominating a terrible candidate. In 2016, the least popular person in politics was Hilary Clinton and the most popular was Bernie Sanders, yet the dems sabotaged Sanders in the primaries, look how that turned out. The way it looks right now, I'm going to vote for Cornel West because A, I generally agree with his platform; B, Biden is a supporter of genocide; and C, trump is a violent petty racist misogynistic homophobic transphobic oligarchic malignant narcissist nazi (etc etc etc). Points B and C are deal breakers, and I will not vote for those candidates. That leaves two choices: abstain from voting or vote for the non-mainstream candidate I like best. I consider abstaining from voting to be throwing my vote away, and living in MN I've learned that even the person polling last that no one takes seriously can win, but people have to vote for that candidate in order to make it happen (a la Jesse Ventura).
So, to protest Biden's actions in Gaza, you're going to do something that objectively helps Trump, who will change none of it? Genius.
I'm always excited to see a new video from you pop up in my feed!
It makes no difference who we vote for. Remember, the purpose of government is to MAINTAIN the status quo not change it, and besides our political process is so corrupt only a revolution can bring about any meaningful change at this point. And unfortunately I don't think America is ready for a revolution yet.
Revolutions are really big gambles. You don't know who is going to end up on top. And you might end up with a system worse than the one you were trying to overthrow.
Nothing is going to change for the better.
I cannot fathom who pollsters talked to in order to get those results on RFK JR.
You didn't say "roll the intro" 😢
I live in a deep red state, Dems have zero chance here other than in a few local races. Voting Dem in a national race is a throw away vote. I do it anyway. But, if I’m throwing away my vote anyway, I may as will throw it to a candidate that aligns more with my ideals. Unfortunately the reality is none of them even make it on the ballot here. The only third parties that are on our ballots are the Libertarian and Constitution parties, hard pass on both.
I would absolutely vote for Dr. West if he was on our ballot, but he won’t be. Of course if there was even the slightest chance the Dems could put a dent in the Republican vote here they’d have it, and I do vote Dem for every other race here.
Yeah, I'm in the same predicament. The only places Dems have a chance is in the inner urban core or the posh, artsy resort town part of the state.
Cough*roll the intro*cough
Ya'welcome
I miss "roll the intro." Bring back "roll the intro!"
Definitely agree. Ranked choice voting, proportional representation systems, and decentralized grassroots work. It's what we need, and it's what we must learn to talk about and understand.
I'm voting dean phillips in the primary and cornel west in the general, I know neither has a chance, but it's a protest vote showing I'm not happy with the establishment. I live in a solid blue state, so I won't risk losing any electoral votes. If I lived in one of the few states that actually matter, then I would both for the lesser evil.
With almost half the electorate choosing not to vote, the notion that any 3rd party has any impact on results is absurd. The numbers just don't add up.
@xunqianbaidu6917 It is bleak that a contentious "life or death" election in the current day was the only reason voter turnout beat 1900. We have three times the population of the US now versus less than
You should have mentioned my country, the Netherlands. We don't even have multi-candidate districts that are safer against gerrymandering. We don't have districts at all. We have a system of national multi-party list elections where the entire country acts as one constituency and all members of parliament are chosen proportionally by the entire population. Imo this is even better than the Danish example you mentioned because we don't just have a system that is harder to gerrymander, but a system where gerrymandering is impossible (which is why I was so upset by the idea of Pieter Omtzigt, leader of the new party: New Social Contract to introduce a district system to have rural areas more represented. I get why he wants it, but I think you can achieve more with quotas for rural representation than import America's broken system of districts and gerrymander politics into ours). We also do have many different political parties. According to some too many. I believe there are currently 20 different parties and independents sitting in parliament
It’s _not_ impossible to elect a third-party candidate; starting with that presumption, however, is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You necessarily can’t win if you don’t enter the ring!
That said, the Electoral College system is one reason why such a victory is extremely unlikely. Even with the deck stacked heavily against changing one of the big parties’ platforms through primaries, that’s a better bet and ought to be Plan A.
A third option proceeding to the general can be effective for the very reason one party or the other will call it a spoiler: it can decide which faction of the establishment ends up holding office!
The message sent is, “If you want our votes, then earn them with policy. Otherwise, the other guys are the ones who get to be capitalists’ bag men.”
The same holds for the faction you’ve put into office. “You’re fired!” can be the message they get next time.
Exactly if you dont like either main party candidate vote third out of spite to show your discontent and encourage your friends to do likewise. Think of it as a form of protest. Personally i think both Biden and Trump are not great and i dont see a huge difference between their presidencies aside from covid but that was a wild card
It is if the parties only appear at the Presidential level. Not enough people are going to vote for a total unknown for the highest office in the nation. If you really want a possible third party candidate, then you needed to push them years ago for this election.
@@alexanderkesterson6338Rights for trans and gay people? Look up Project 2025 and tell me their presidencies will look the same .
Great video well-researched, I appreciate your time thank you
The entire duopoly is trash. And we dont have to vote for trash.
The UA-cam cleptocracy woman thinks "winning" is getting robbed by a kleptocracy candidate, NOT getting bad laws repealed. This is moronic inattention to facts
Multi-party systems work everywhere in Europe, especially because the parliament usually has more power in european countries so there is usually no winner takes all.
I feel like we've exhausted all other ways to eliminate the two party system.
There's no reason a viable third party can't be built. It has to have the right people. Perot build the Reform Party into a force, but they really weren't that good.
I was registered as a Green party member, but then I realized a third party was a waste of a vote :( Unfortunately. Rank voting is the only way other parties could be heard.
Votes are only wasted if:
1, the vote is cast for someone/something the voter doesn't want to win
2, the voter abstains from voting
If the only non-wasted votes are those cast for the winner, then its pointless to vote for anyone/anything other than the winner, and everyone should only vote for who they think will win, at which point democracy is a fallacy and there's no reason to have elections at all.
This is incredibly short sighted.
You're talking about 3 separate issues. Party registration (there are pros and cons), voting strategy (I'm a registered Dem who votes 3rd party in the general), and RCV (we need it too.)
Anyone hating on RFK in these comments need to go watch at least 2 hours of him speaking before you make a decision on his beliefs. There’s a lot of misinterpretations of his thoughts out there.
That’s for sure, he’s by far the best choice
There will be no salvation from politicians.
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Spoiler votes let us control looter politicians with 3rd party clout
Your videos are super informative and I appreciate the hell out of them.
5:15 😂😂😂😂😂 I love this description of the LP it's so true!
Crazy that almost every sponsor you take goes against every value you supoosedly stand for.
Money over morals
pays the bills and keeps the videos coming. just skip the sponsorships if they bother you. the rest of the video still has plenty of informative stuff to say.
@@AG-un7si yeah it's easier to act virtuous than be virtuous!
@@MorgueParfington I get that believe me, I still watch the vids, it's just annoying that she preaches all this shit about worker's rights and then promotes union busters lol. UA-camrs this size can pick and choose sponsors and do their due dilligence. I get though that smaller youtubers cant afford to be picky, but this chick literally just said a couple vids ago she's moving to Europe so I dont think she's hurtin lol.
@@FoulMouthFishing666 i guess i really live under a rock and dont realize how much sponsorships might influence viewers or other things. i'll still keep my benefit of the doubt as a fresh immigrant myself that the money these shit corporations are offering her is going somewhere necessary. i just hope she doesnt pull an illuminaughtii on us. leading women in leftist political spaces have my admiration and give me hope.
Third party presidential candidacies are unserious - if you want to build a different party, you start at the city council level, then state legislature, then eventually a federal Congressional seat. You don't start with president and work down, unless the presidential run is _just_ a signaling tactic to create some hype for the downballot candidates.
Like, if No Labels was serious, they should be a home for the Liz Cheneys and Adam Kinzingers to try to get their House seats back, not floating Manchin for president.
Perot had _some_ success, but the only way a third party candidacy would have a _real_ chance at president and not just act as a spoiler, would be a "no-party" anti-politics ticket with, like, Oprah+Dwayne Johnson or something.
This^^^ 💯… I actually predict that in the next 20 years, there will be 3 major parties in America. The MAGA Republican Party, the Progressive Left Wing Democrats and a Moderate Party comprised on moderate Democrats and Republicans who left their old party who has went far to the left and right.
@@ubik5453 That's fair, I have a lot of ideas, most of them are shit 😉.
I hate this argument. How are greens supposed to defend themselves from Democrats kicking them off the ballot without Federal funding?
that is completely unserious as well. a vote for Liz or Adam is a vote for let's turn this party into the future Republican party which is what got us Trump in the first place. there's no such thing as a decent conservative and until you accept that we're going to continue to play this little game.
@@intuitionz1198 I don't know what the fuck you're talking about
it’s soo disappointing that you didn’t talk ab Claudia De La Cruz & Karina Garcia w PSL 💔
Great vid!
the lesser of two evils is still evil! I will be voting for Bobby Kennedy 2024!
How is proposing increasing taxes on the rich along with the inflation reduction act evil?
The US needs a Labor Party…
Ironically, Biden is the closest thing we've had in decades to a labor party president.
@@lordpessimism Maybe since like Jimmy Carter. It's like being the tallest kid in kindergarten.
there is, PSL lol
We've had communists for a century. They worsen everything
I'm voting third-party, I did so in 2016 and 2020 as well
A video too many people need to watch 💯
I will be writing JFK Jr. in my state primary. I firmly believe that rejecting the two party system is necessary to save our nation.
Me too!
JFK Jr???
My jaw was on the floor when I saw Robert Kennedy’s commercial during the Super Bowl. I couldn’t believe he used his uncle’s music and graphics from 1960, but I wasn’t surprised in today’s climate. I don’t trust No Labels at all, either. I love talking to my students about the early 20th century elections. They were definitely dramatic. A family member worked for Perot when she graduated college in Dallas. He was a hoot and helped start my family member’s career path. I like proportional representation and I want to abolish the EC. Ranked choice might help, too.
One of your Best Shows Ever! Keep Up the Good Work & the Great Content Flowing !!!
Great video.
RFKJr is what America needs. Let's make it happen! Fast, pray and hit the sidewalks.
people aren't voting for him because he's "better than the other two options" and it's pretty annoying to hear people try to smear RFK jr. this way. We are voting for him because he is the only candidate in the last 30 years that has actually been what an American president is supposed to represent. I mean, ffs, the guy has been fighting environment corruption in the court room for the last 40 years of his life.
The common party. Common sense government for the common people.
That's what we need.
We need term limits for Congress.
We need an age cap for political office and seats of authority.
No more open borders.
No more qualified immunity.
We need a new agency that investigates our police and is given incentive not to get in bed with any department.
No more senility.
Employers need to start carrying their own weight and do right by their employees.
Why are wait staff still dependent on tips?
Why are truck drivers still paid by the mile?
If we have a school shooter epidemic, why aren't we protecting our schools?
We need to put a stop to sneaky unrelated language being put into bills mostly aimed at and titled specifically toward other issues.
We need to update our voting system and we need to start gravitating to letting the people vote on issues instead of a bunch of old crooks voting quietly behind a curtain.
We have to stop putting restrictions on or outright taking away freedoms from a demographic before we'll give them an inch on another issue.
We have to stop supporting the desire to strip a demographic of a valued freedom just to appease the whims of another.
We need to cease entertaining ludicrous regulations and laws that only serve to line the pockets of the already insanely wealthy and powerful.
We cannot allow for the American people to continue being exploited and left out.
There's just so many issues and so much corruption and way too many loopholes to ease into fixing.
To make any actual progress we'd all have to agree on extreme measures being utilized in order to forcibly repair our country and instill fear into those that would trespass the rights and security of the American people as well as their trust.
Most importantly, we've got to stop doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different or better results.
Our leaders should be held to higher standards. They should be made to actually answer questions instead of their vague double speak dodging that we've become accustomed to.
We need to put the housing crisis and all issues in it's orbit under a microscope.
It's time that the people implemented a zero tolerance policy of their own.
The insanity has to stop.
Term limits for congress will solve what exactly?
We don't have open borders. And common sense is a refrain for non-serious people who are certain they are correct but refuse to explain themselves. So no, we don't need that.
we need country-wide ranked choice voting.. to get better overall candidates… and then get rid of the Electoral college.
Not RFK Jr that's for sure.
As someone who is offended deeply by what’s going on in Palestine, there’s no way that I’m voting other than third party for Cornel West specifically. The damage was already done and there’s no way that anyone else will guilt trip me to vote for Trump out of fear. The problem is that nobody has the guts to change from an electoral college to rank choice voting.
Even if by some weird twist of events a third party candidate were to win they would get absolutely nothing done while in office as neither major party would have any incentive to work with them. Any third party that doesn't try to build from local elections up isn't a serious contender and isn't actually trying.
Thanks, Leeja. Yours is a very important message. The US clearly, unquestionably, needs an overhaul in many areas, but starting with the voting system would be an enormous boost. Voting for a third party candidate--no matter how smart, ethical, likeable--always hurts the best major party candidate. Ranked Choice Voting--hear, hear and hurray. God, I hope that happens.
I would never count a Kennedy out. Name recognition is powerful.
Gladly voting for RFK here. 😅
and just...advertising that idiocy to the world. bold choice.
so ur stupid ?
Our system makes it difficult for a third party to run - due to popularity and money....
I truly believe that a spilt party nomination for POTUS and VPOTUS would allow a more balanced approach.
Love ya, Leej ❤
26:37 im pretty sure thats a fictional map.
Yeah thats not the danish borders lol. Where the hell did she get that map???
@@arvidg8547 probably searched "danish election map" and accidentally fished out a fictional map posted on r/imaginarymaps or deviantart and the like. It happens quite often than expected with youtubers and sometimes you need a little bit more attention to find out if its a fictional one.
Henry Wallace and The Progressive Party (1948) deserve a mention.
all the love ❤
Great video!! Thank you so much. I am citing you in my school assignment :'D