The National Socialist Welfare State
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Today we look at the welfare state set up by the National Socialist German Workers' Party in Germany. "Gemeinnutz vor Eigennutz" = “The common weal above individual advantage”.
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History isn’t as boring as some people think, and my goal is to get people talking about it. I also want to dispel the myths and distortions that ruin our perception of the past by asking a simple question - “But is this really the case?”. I have a 2:1 Degree in History and a passion for early 20th Century conflicts (mainly WW2). I’m therefore approaching this like I would an academic essay. Lots of sources, quotes, references and so on. Only the truth will do.
(1) Battlestorm Gazala will be out next Monday, 20th May 2024 (or another day that week if there’s unforeseen problems in the meantime).
(2) This video has been “Limited” by the Google Archipelago. Thanks UA-cam Gestapo!
(3) The fact that the modern United Kingdom looks very similar to the Third Reich is not just “a coincidence”. Paying people to be “victims”, paying them not to work, or putting a uniform on the unemployed and calling them “government”, is nothing more than financially incentivising degeneracy. Altruism is a race to the bottom, and this is just one reason why I’m not an advocate for the welfare state.
The other reason I’m against the welfare state is because socialism doesn’t work. It doesn’t work thanks to what’s known as the “knowledge problem” and the “Socialist Economic Calculation Problem”. Watch this short video (6 mins) by Learn Liberty which explains the problem ua-cam.com/video/zkPGfTEZ_r4/v-deo.htmlsi=Zgj-dbhZABhjERJx
I also explain this problem in my video on German logistics ua-cam.com/video/1Oc_lFmp6vQ/v-deo.html (32 mins)
“Paying for my people is the exact same as paying for hostile third worlders” so true thanks libertarian
@@doughboyjr9418 I don't care who steals my money, whether they're white or some other colour is irrelevant - they're all hostile to me.
@@doughboyjr9418 Also, I'm not a libertarian. I'm just not a race-collectivist like yourself.
@@TheImperatorKnightyou’re either pro white, anti white or a cuck these days. You choose englander, every city a crime ridden r@pê den or a real country?
@@TheImperatorKnight rootless Cosmopolitan behaviour.
State-controlled labour. State-controlled prices. State-controlled vacations. Truly a free-market capitalist government!
Try telling that to a lefty and they will put their fingers in their ears and shout LALALALALALA at full volume.
Bu-bu-but muh private property!
Why is that bad?
Capitalism is le good 🍔
Gulags were state funded holiday inns
The nazis can't be socialists because
1) I am a socialist.
2) I am a good person.
3) The nazis were not good persons.
Therefore the nazis couldn't possibly share any of my poltics. As we all know, the way the world works is 'the person who shares the most words in common with the nazis loses'. I don't want to lose, so the nazis were not socialists and I remain a good person. Me. Me me, me. Me.
Or, Not me, not me, not me. So really, them them them. Second handedness. Lack of proper introspection.
"Socialism is when you care about other people and not just yourself!" 😂
@@WraithOfManand it's funny how all the people who make those claims only want other people to pay higher taxes and give away their property. Never themselves.
@@WraithOfMan yass slay kween
Socialism is garbage and always has been no matter what other words you put in front of it
They paid 15% for rent!?!??? Whatttttttt. Germany in it's bad time sounds better than Canada right now
"Bad times"
Australian government housing charges 25% of wage, capped at market rate. Well 25% is a lot but at least it is cheaper that the normal exorbitant rent if your income sucks,
@Marc83Aus those are rookie numbers. In Australia, you could probably get that up to at least 40 percent. how awful, Ayn Rand would be rolling in her grave if she knew profits weren't being maximized.
@@Marc83Aus ya, in Canada the government housing is 30% if you're in market housing you will often pay 50%
A major war just culled a huge segment of the population
It's funny that to this day people blow a gasket when you tell them that Hitler was a Socialist.
NPCs can’t compute.
Admitting that simple fact is all it takes for their Marxist fantasy to crumble apparently
I was even surprised when I heard Jordan Petersen say that Hitler was an example of when the "right" goes to far. He needs to get familiar with TIK's work.
Every. Time.
Have you seen Owen Jones awful video about it? I know Tik doesn't even bother doing replies because they don't even read the source material. Politicians in the UK wanted to copy nazi germany welfare state.
Apparently, the NAZIS won the war; most of their social ideas and technical knowledge are now the norm in all of the allies countries.
Even though it's incorrect but to quote George Carlin
" Fascism Won, Germany Lost"
@@mrcliff3709 neo-marxism lives on despite the USSR being long defunct.
@leonardticsay8046 Joe McCarthy was a hero
@@leonardticsay8046 there is no such thing as neo-marxism its just marxism.
@@mrcliff3709 yt deleted when i agreed with you and i said that peenoshay had the right idea.
Your videos depress me now because I know so many people won't even listen to them. Still someone's got to do it, keep up the good stuff.
They depress me too, because I feel like I'm preaching to the choir. The people who desperately need to hear this stuff, won't listen to it, and then accuse me of "lying" and "tricking" my audience - the same audience that buys the books to cross-reference the information I'm citing at the bottom of the screen.
If there's a way to get these people to listen, let me know, because I'm all out of ideas at this point.
@@TheImperatorKnight idfk. I casually mentioned that the national socialists of Germany were socialist to a friend studying politics, and he went on this entire rant on how just because they have socialism in the name doesn't necessarily mean they are socialist. He said taking the name literally was the equivalent to autistic black-and-white thinking. Bizarre to think so many people entering the field of politics still think the Nazis will right wing.
@@TheImperatorKnightReeducation camps worked for the blue hairs of his day, or you can trust in the market and know they will just fail at life eventually.
@@TheImperatorKnight > If there's a way to get these people to listen, let me know, because I'm all out of ideas at this point.
You can't make them process what you are saying, your arguments are completly irrelevant. This is how brains work and nothing you can do about it.
And from short list of ways to change their mind, there is only one available in practice - change mind of other people. Something you are already implementing. So cool down and focus on people that actually process what you are saying.
@@TheImperatorKnight The more details the choir has, the better they can sing
It’s kinda similar to when I read that William Pelley was “Far-Right” by historians and political analysts.
Yes, the man was racist, and yes he wanted to reorder America into a “Christian Commonwealth”(though Pelley’s “Christianity” was anything but orthodox in nature) but when you get into his actual economic policies and ideas… nationalizing all industry, a national income for Americans(provided they were they right race), a cap on private earnings, all currency having a expiration date to prevent accumulation of wealth, and so and so forth… if you remove at least the race stuff this “Far-Right” figure becomes a darling socialist that every leftist in America would praise for his “progressive” views on the economy and welfare.
Alas, the racial aspect is all it takes for the leftists.
@@KingBuilder525Except when it comes to Margaret Sanger.
Left and right are misused terms. Someone could be extremely nationalistic (right) but also wanting to protect poor, workers etc (left) ... Similarly, we are now ruled by globalists that are not nationalistic at all (left) but would rob a candy from the baby (right) .
@@KingBuilder525 mmm yee but not really even... That's more strategy, or later adjunct. Less deeply seated for most of their ideology. Marxism was racist and the Soviets used national struggles as a way to garner support overseas. Same applies with many of the anarchists.
Unfortunately, the theists and the conservatives, which could be considered culturally "right" in the older sense rather than being capitalist, for their religious and sometimes pro-monarchical views, are not without blame either. They gathered around "faith" in the supernatural and their standards change by their theologians whims. As such, they could just as well, one day, be either the monarchists, or the nazis (or the fascists) they get accused of being.
I'm not Christian, but I think that Christianity fits better with a social market economy than with full capitalism.
The KDF is SUCH a fascinating thing to study because it was such a cradle to grave program that they built the cars to transport workers on vacation to the resorts.
Volkswagen spawned from the ashes of the KDF.
Its weird tho that the same people who insist that Nazism isnt socialism think that the KDF was a corporation or something
Not a single KdF car was ever delivered to a worker. Ever.
Because if the war. The factory lines that were going to make kdf cars made the kubelwagen, the german military jeep.
Volkswagen celebrated their 75th not long ago. Wolfsburg isn't far from here. The entire region basically only exists because VW does as the nexus of all industries and other high tech companies operating in its orbit. They even held the celebration in that ancient first building of red bricks... But guess what: Normally you'd talk about the founding story of your company/corporation at such a milestone event... but somehow nobody dropped a single word about that. Some of the people who were present (this region is a like a giant village), said it was a very odd athmosphere, because there's this obvious topic that everybody has on their minds but nobody mentions. It's like a big joke that everybody sees, but it's not a funny one.
Tidbit: "From Cradle to Grave" is an old bad translation of an even older German saying. The original goes "From Cradle to Bier" (Von der Wiege bis zur Bahre). Because those are the correct antonyms. The inverse to "From Cradle to Grave" would be "From Womb to Bier", to illustrate how much less sense that makes. The Cradle is to the Bier what the Womb is to the Grave.
I remember from TIK's eugenics video that the guy coined for "inventing" the phrase was one of those pseudo-intellectual weirdos high on himself, so no wonder he mistranslated it. It's a pity the wrong version got stuck in the English language because that midwit. The line is centuries older.
It's because by hitlers word of mouth Germany was fascist. He just marketed himself as a big man of the people but when he lost he made plans for the night of long knives.
"and there's also Himmler's polygamy farms"
Oh boy, the rabbit hole just gets deeper with each of your videos!
I'm not sure if I'm thinking of the same thing, but I recall an awful lot of 3rd Reich women thought they had 'been with' Adolf, more than is feasible. Is that related?
but, but nazis believe in family values!!!!
I believe that's a reference to the Lebensborn program intended to produce as many ethnic Aryans as possible without the restrictions of marriage and monogamy.
Is that what Spinal Tap's "Sex Farm" all about?😅
Calling it a rabbit hole is funny, because you know…
Rabbits fuck a lot😂
Wait for it....Wait for it...THERE! Off in the distance - I can hear the faint chorus of "Stick to tanks!!!!!"
Or even "Bleib bei Panzern" sung to the tune of Ode to Joy perhaps?
@@gbcb8853 Excellent! Or even to Ride of the Valkyries?
Otto von Bismarck was the first person to be called a "national socialist" (in 1887) because of his social welfare legislation. He was also called a "state socialist".
Yeah the wiki article on it called "State Socialism (Germany)".
He kind of invented the modern welfare state, an inveterate leftist
EXCUSE ME ?!?!?
You're not wrong, though. I did what needed to be done to keep the socialists at arms length. Otherwise, I was always true to the monarchy.
Socialism is a religion. You can never find "true" application of Socialism in history but there always is a utopic socialist state in the dreams of socialists.
I have a friend who puts it back at about BC 5000 so it's not debatable because there's no evidence. Socialists are hilarious.
Jesus talked about the Kingdom of Heaven to be better than anything imaginable. A true utopia, free of anything bad and sinful, where you live for eternity with God, the source of everything good. Seperated from the devil. This is Christianity. The world's biggest theistic religion. Socialism talks about a place on earth where everyone is equal, lives in eternal peace and goodness where they can profess their job (Heaven) in freedom from the capitalists (the devil). This is an atheistic religion. It promises the same as a normal theistic religion, but on earth, making it atheistic.
So is capitalism. Show me one livable capitalist country. No, USA is not a capitalist country - had ambitions 😂😂😂 but well look at health care system - much more expensive and much less efficient then those in Europe. It is oligarchy right now bc it is always how capitalism must end.
Yes, and everything that the free market produces Mut be compared to this perfect world that is just over the next regulation
@@zumurudlilit The free market health care system in the USA was better than the state-Obama-care system you currently have ua-cam.com/video/0uPdkhMVdMQ/v-deo.htmlsi=jkvPHfW1En-YHN-L
TIK, never stop. Thank you
Your videos on the History and facts of the nazi state going against the free market and also this other anti-capitalist typical measure are extremely valuable and also informative (talk about actually dispelling myths and setting the score straight..).
That's a very good doing by a perfect historical channel for sure
I think his videos on how socialist the Yahtzees were are his most important videos. The narrative that the Yahtzees are extreme right needs to be demolished. If only to put them into the correct category so the extreme left no longer gets a free pass.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw Socially right economically left
@@yendevus1747 What is socially right about trying to create a classless society? Isn't that the very definition of socialism?
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw How is it classless if certain groups are considered as second class citizens?
@@yendevus1747 .. Stop making sense, you'll scare them off!!
Thank you, TIKhistory.
The Wilhelm Gustloff was one of those ships. By the time the war began, the ships intended to be used as cruise ships ended up either as hospital ships, troop barracks, or navy training vessels. In the last few months of the war they were used to evacuate the German population of East Prussia, Pomerania, Danzig and the Polish corridor from the Red Army's westward advance.
This is not totally related to the videos topic, but it’s funny to point out the excerpt at 11:00. It’s such a stereotypical thing for a socialist state to do, “Here workers, are your great facilities mandated by the state! Aren’t you grateful for living in a socialist state.” Meanwhile no one wanted it, or asked for it, and it was simply mandated by an out of touch bureaucrat official. But socialists will still somehow cry that it wasn’t REAL socialism, and that they themselves would have somehow known the complex needs of millions of individuals, and that they would “actually” know the needs of the workers. LOL
i remember seeing a guy claim the kommisar demanding a new gym to be built proved the DAF wasn’t socialist because they only added a gym since it fit with their ideology of physical fitness…
I know this came up in a previous video, but another meaning for the word "Gleichschaltung" to keep in mind is compliance. Not just coordination, but coordination by coercive / forced means. Above all, compliance in the approved way of thinking.
That's exactly what socialism boils down to. Do what we say is best for everyone, or else.
It's impossible to have "generous social welfare" because being generous with other people's money is not strictly speaking generous. Especially if you close the private charities, clearly a control measure.
If the profit of my labour goes to my desires, I am free.
If the profit of my labour goes to your desires, I am a slave.
@@elLootoI shall start spamming leftist and Keynesian channels with that line almost immediately!
Other people's money imply that we should all respect property rights. I.e. state should protect property of billionaires, but not take some of that protected property to help the poor. It is simply ludicrous idea by so called free marketers .
British Ambassador comments on the beautification of the workplace done by ex union leaders. For factories. Albert Speer in page 57 of his book inside the third reich "Sir Neville Henderson, Failure of a Mission (New York, 1940), p. IS: "There are, in fact, many things in the Nazi organization and social institutions, as distinct from its rabid nationalism and ideology, which we might study and adapt to our own use with great profit both to the health and happiness of our own nation and old
democracy."
@aleksazunjic9672 1) the state protects all property of everyone in exchange for the cost of protecting the property. To reduce bloodshed. Billionaires, and plenty of others, are perfectly capable of defending their property on their own, it can just result if lots of killing if you don't have a state.
Taking money for other things and justifying it by saying they defend the property (as said something billionaires don't need) is the behaviour of criminals.
Absolutely brilliant video. I've learned a lot about this era. My Grandparents visited Germany in Summer of 1938 as part of a Hiking club. They were astounded how well working class people were living in Germany at that time.
We’re so back
I don't want this to come off as a complaint but his videos drop at a good time for me. The week starts off in a good way as far as YT viewing goes. Weeks without a video are sorta a kick in the balls like "damn now I have to see what Whistler is up to". Not trying to hate on Simon either just its completely different content.
It's over.
@joshualoganhoi4 That's what I'm getting at, lol. It's a good week.
@@wigster600 Never began
@@yendevus1747never happened but should have ? Hmm
You need to do an in-depth vid on the Strasserist branch of Nazism and compare it to the other side. I find it interesting how people claim that the Strasserists were the "actual socialist" branch of Nazism but Strasserists weren't Marxists just like the Hitler branch of NS weren't Marxists either. By saying what they are claiming about Strasserism they are essentially acknowledging that you can have a non-Marxist variant of Socialism. Hitler's side was just not as radical when it came to economic views compared to the Strasserists.
I think a word or two on the history and practical implementations of ideological "anarchism", good and bad, as well as why Rand essentially said it would lead to fascism might be in order.
strasser was just syndicalist and just wanted pretty much to do italian corporatism in germany and nothing special so I dont get why there should be special video about it, so just read strasser literature or literature about italian corporatism like by paul einzig or such yeah.
@@purple-25377 Strasser pretty much was a Syndicalist yeah but the biggest difference between Strasserism and Italian Fascist Corporatism was that Strasser wanted to get rid of the old German Bourgeoise and hand the economy to the German people. There still would have been a positioned person running the company and earning money like a CEO but the rest of the workers would have owned a partial stake of the company and a portion of the profits would have been given to the workers. So there was still a small measure of class collaboration in Strasserism. At least that's what I know of it.
@@purple-25377 Syndie bastards, someone wake up MacArthur
Socialists want government control of the economy in some form or fashion. The difference is the how the control is exercised. Whether it's direct government ownership (Marxism) are through fictionally independent entities (Nazism, Fascism). But the net effect is the same.
I thought I heard you say "like I, I have not had a vacation ", TIK, this needs to change, you need a vacation, even a short 4 day one, once in while, you are a valuable resource that we need to keep around, I don't want to see you get burned out and disappear.
Prior to, he said.- I'm glad to hear it. Rejuvenation is important. No need to be a nazi about neither work nor play. Edit: Do it TIK. You earned it.
After Gazala I may take a week off to go see my sister, who's just had a baby. But yes, apart from bereavement and that time I burnt out and stopped for a couple weeks, I've not had a proper holiday since 2015.
@@TheImperatorKnight Some people thrive on work but have a great time kissing the baby.
But of course all these controls on labor and management did not amount to socialism, just ask socialists.
Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because...
Human kind has been socialist ALL THE TIME, FAMILY is the basic socialist state where the husband/father is the provider for his wife and kids and many time his seniors.
They will get socialism right next time, just ask socialists..
It's because in a socialist economy the workers would own everything. There wouldn't be a private sector in a socialist economy. Kind of goes against the whole idea. I know it makes you feel like a chess master saying "ahhh the nazis called themselves socialist so they must be" do you also believe their ideas about race? You believe everything else they say.
@@ChadOfAllChads No, I am saying that control, not formal ownership, matters. If all the means of production are controlled by the State, what the State deigns to classify the ownership as is irrelevant.
Name one socialist/Marxist-Leninist country where “the workers” control is not identical with control by apparatchiks? Call them gauleiters, same difference.
One subject that interests me is Hitler's dislike for the nobles and aristocrats. Like how he generally wouldn't care what a general had to say if he had a von in his name.
Not true. He had lot of vons around him. They did try to ditch him in 1944 to save their own skin. But other than that, old Prussian nobility supported Hitler while he was winning.
@@aleksazunjic9672 I know that the Royal Family (especially the Kaiser and Prince August) supported him. The Prussian born generals only got on his bad side when he blamed them for the war turning against him. The "resistance" is a complete post war fabrication. Claus von Stauffenberg and his cohorts others are not admirable heroes with the possible exception of Friedrich Olbricht and Henning von Treskow.
If you are refuring to the bomb plot, that wasn't really the german nobility. But mostly lower ranking Germans that had always been against him.
German and prussian nobility were never really wholelly for or against the Nazis. There were exceptions but by and large they were unethusiastic.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 That movie is some of the most overrated Hollywood garbage. They weren't heroes (surviving members couldn't even join the Bundeswehr or anything because they were hated). They're only now viewed as heroes to nake it seem like there were "good Germans" at the time. Claus von Stauffenberg certainly was not a hero. I'll hear arguments for Olbricht, von Quirnheim, and von Treskow. Also did you know von Stauffenberg's children hated that movie because Tom Cruise is a Scientologist.
Hitler was a socialist, why is it strange that he hated aristocrats?
I’ll be honest, Tik has got to be one of the biggest inspirations for me to get into history and even consider making a history channel although probably because i got some sense I have yet to make a historical channel due to the fact its rather difficult to make a living off of UA-cam these days
Sadly YT has closed the door on new youtubers being able to live off their work. Or at least break even. And R u m b l e does not pay enough or has enough viewers either. Which is a shame because censorship on YT has become insane, I don't even know if this comment will not get DELETED.
Agree. Tik is the true teacher of so much that matters today.
So well researched and put across with power, nuance and comedy too!
A great teacher this lad.
in the words of Shia LeBeouf, Just do it man
@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw Rumble is only going to grow as more content creators get sick of all the censorship on yt. Sure not many ppl follow them onto the new platform now, but the way things are headed, they qill.
Tik is the biggest coper
Just did my AP European History LEQ on this!
Hope you got a good grade.
Got a 6🔥🔥🔥
@@tsarnicholasii8248 Er, a 6 out of what?
@@TheAzureNightmare
6/5 😎
You kept in mind, that TIK is a stauch anarcho-capitalist? He has some extreme views, evry bit of state intervention is socialist and even publicly traded companies to him are just one step away from state owned.
So yeah, be careful with using TIKs videos as a basis for class assignments, use a variety of up to date sources, google the authors, check/state your definitions and stay neutral. The last one is importatnt, no "I think the nazis where socialist and thats why ..." rather "According to this definiton of socialism by Soandso, the Nazis were socialists. This is supported by this part of their ideology and these actions they took."
This is way more effort but it will actually result in a logically consistent argument.
That's one part I think TIK misses when calssifying the Nazis as socialist. His definition of socialism is rather uncomon and broad. His argument is enssentially, it looks like other authoritarian countries that claim to be socialist to me therefor their socialist. His argument's why they can't be capitalist are valid though.
Living in Cuba during my first 30 years I can tell you that this story or rationing cards with ALL its details were our normal lives.
At least you had regular food, free healthcare and good education. When cuba was capitalist everyone was very poor and hungry and most of the land was owned by American tobacco companies
@@Nick-zp3ub What Bollocks
@@Nick-zp3ub The only thing the Socialists do is; "take cash out of the pockets of people that have earned it, and give it to those that have not earned it"
@@Nick-zp3ub Hahahahaha, pure copium
That was also the life in Soviet Russia. Which proves that the Nazi were something else.
Good to see you qouting the great Thomas Sowell!
It would be hilarious to see Sowell and Stoddard in a debate, especially the part where leftists' heads and hearts explode because they won't know which to support. Stoddard for his statist progressive economics or Sowell for his race?
Omg no way. I don’t watch these cringe videos but that is icing on the cake. Nothing cringier than the center-right. You people are so dishonest
@@AustrianPainter141. Are u crying?
2. Why are u here?
3. Whats wrong with sowell?
4. Whats dishonest?
5. Watch the video or leave troll.
@@AustrianPainter14 be quiet commie
wtice4632
Why don’t you make me, socialist?
You center-rightoids are ok with national socialism for everybody especially Israel but not for Europeans. Explain that one
This is the type of video i really enjoy. It's great to learn and what happened before which makes it easier to see the how society and government is heading down the same route again. Being a librarian and individual, also involved in politics makes this knowledge frightening as the future correctly looks bleak. People don't seem interested in freedom and free choice today. Freedom of choice, free markets, private property and government by real consent is what we should all be striving for..
18:05 If you like your doctor...you can keep your doctor!
Thanks Obama
Sounds like socialism to me.
Because it is.
Note that Hitler only had 12 years to implement his ideas. For comparison, the Bolsheviks had already been in charge for 15 years when the Nazis seized power. The amount of state control Hitler implemented in such a short time is astonishing. They moved at a much faster pace than the Soviets.
From a strictly historical perspective, it would have been interesting to see how Nazi Germany would have looked 10 or 20 years later.
Jesus was a communist
Fascism and Socialism aren't that different if there are differences at all. Fascists are merely honest Socialists.
Ok but his socialism worked, because it wasn't a slave to classical globalist socialism
Got this great idea for female t-shirt. In the back it would read "thanks for watching, bye for now."
thanks for watching... her boobs? (which would be in the front)
😂😂
Opening a can of worms now.
Never had this laid out so brilliantly, so lucid and authoritative .
Tik is a truth phenomenon. Just wonderful, enough here to create the necessary degree and O Levels( yes, revert to that!) that we need. And urgently.
Everything I've encountered in my extensive reading on German history indicates that the Weimar Republic had one of the most extensive public welfare systems in the world at the time. My understanding is that the German welfare state was so costly that the government did not have the financial means to expand it when the Great Depression hit. I fear that the U.S. is now in the same precarious condition.
There was a huge glut of cheap money flooding into Europe from US during the mid-twenties till the crash, which helped fund its even larger expansion. Of course with black Tuesday the gold poured right back to the US and France, crippling GB and sinking Weimar completely.
Geez, TIK. These "Peasants Organizations" sound an awful lot like workers Soviets.
Except the Soviets just kinda m*rdered you for anything they wanted.
Literally this was the primary concerns of the Austrian Fascists, before Natsoc agents murdered Engelbert Dollfuss the leader of the Austrian Fascist government, they already had a plan in plan with Italy to counter Hitler as they viewed him as just the racist version of Stalin.
The best that Tik's opponents can ever come up with is the old Socialist standby, an eternal "Argument ad Incredulum"...
Why are you guys obsessed with the whole socialist bit? Saying they were socialists would not have raised an eyebrow when I did my undergrad 20 years ago I don't think things have changed that much
@@kenon6968 In the past several years, it has. Nazism is used interchangeably with fascism, and often hurled in the media... usually directed towards right-wingers. These words shouldn't be thrown around, especially when they don't apply to the situation/context at all because of lack of education. But yeah, Nazism has basically been presented as right-wing extremism without question - and if often mentioned in situations that aren't even extreme.
Tik is going to get Stefan Molyneux’d, absolute hero of history
What happened to him?
Sadly, that could happen.
I'd love to hear a conversation between TIK and Stef.
@@praeamble Especially on race, the very concept of which Tik denies.
@@MarmiteMangoMachine Agreed, that would be a great discussion.
Another excellent presentation that enlightens! Thank you. I always look forward to your ‘lectures!’
Balanced and objective analysis is so rare; when you do this it leaves me astonished, but refreshed, thankyou.
Haha! People wouldn't buy Corona beer here either during the pandemic. (I'm in Oklahoma.) 😂
Imagine owning that company when the pandy hit... That thought struck me many times throughout.
"Some people think Hitler was a super secret socialist," _The Distributist
Au contraire - he was an *avowed* socialist.
@@ManiacalForeigner Try telling that to The Distributist. He'll just scoff arrogantly at you
@@SonofTiamatthe nazis where ultra nationalists aswell. Depends what aspect you focus on. They aren't Marxists they are there own thing that is a off shoot of socialism.
@@ManiacalForeigner Yes, a National Socialist.
@@alg7115 I'm aware of that. Fascism, whether the Italian variety or National Socialist, rejects historical materialism in favor of a more holistic and metaphysical approach. Zoran Zoltaneous has great articles on third-positionist ideology
I just can't stand it when people outright lie and say the Austrian painter wasn't a socialist
Your videos are absolutely amazing, thank you so much for all this work and your generosity. Keep at it please!
thanks for this yet again fantastic vid TIK 😊more people should watch your vids. they are seriously good
TIK, this knowledge is revolutionary! Thanks.❤
Good stuff, Tik! Thank you. I don't always agree with you, but, I always learn from your posts!
Great work TIK congrats on your channel.
V good summary. A lot of this was warmly welcomed by German subjects after years of poverty and unemployment.
I borrowed “Hitler’s Beneficiaries” from a public library, and I’ve already noticed the same things your latest video just showed us all; I’m glad I made my pick
Why not buy it?
@@dameanvil Wanted to try it before buying so that I’ll know if it’s good
@@juliusataturk2421 Right. The very expensive books.
Great video Tik, great sources and books I havent yet read. Im keen to see you do more of the impromptu scritptless type videos like the one where you were talking to your friend. Keep it up, and bye for now.
TIK i see THIS happing in Brazil TODAY! The socialism dont change! Tax is growing to the Max and the welfare state growing.
It's interesting that many Western countries have adopted similar policies and it is driving their economies into the ground. Just like it did back then. Look at all the money loaning and printing these days. All that inflation and debt. Economists keep telling me this inflation is a good thing. All I see is my food and rent costs going up.
And soon you'll see the war...
Wonderful to hear the truth, always good to listen to you,
Thank you, TIK, flipping brilliant as usual
Again, a thumbs up for the decent subtitles TIK!
And boy, am I looking forward to the next one on this subject!
Regards,
Thomas
Good work. More economic videos please! Looking forward to Gazala too.
It seems to me that the difference between the National Socialists Workers Party and the Leftists of today that the key difference is that the Socialism in 30s Germany went much further and was focused on those who were considered to be quality natives, whereas the Socialism of today focuses upon those who arent natives.
Gosh im totally new to this channel and can hoenstly say im glad to have it propped up on my list.
Absolutely fascinating stuff
My first thought while listening to this was the Civilian Conservation Corps (1933-42). Putting young men to work to alleviate unemployment.
"Make Work" is a sure sign your economy is not well.
Pretty much the whole of the New Deal was similar. A socialist is a socialist is a socialist as Shakespeare didn't say.
And that’s socialism
@@neilreynolds3858considering that the New Deal started from pretty much a base of zero it must have seemed all the more radical, the NSDAP was building on more than a half century worth of tradition for state-sponsored welfare programs
Extremely interesting video thankyou , I have been saying things like this to people for over fifty years but have not studied it to your extent .
This was really good Tik .. Thank You ..
Good job as usual, Lewis . Thank you.
Another great informative video thanks for the hard work.
A quote for you:
"... the so called ‘Technical emergency aid’ to the post office, the police and the railways; tasks for the army (messenger, goods loading, nursing and telephone service, etc.); factory and labour squads; collecting salvage and old clothes; farm and harvest work; National Socialist National Welfare service and cultural work. A great number of these tasks were performed by girls. The effect of this Hitler Youth work on the war economy should not be underestimated: in 1942, for example, 600,000 boys and 1,400,000 girls helped with the harvest..."
Source: Account Rendered: A Dossier on my Former Self by M. Maschmann. (Highly recommend this book for an individual's perspective. Author was considered honest by Hannah Arendt, and re-tells why she believed what she believed and did what she did from the 1930s to 1945.)
7:25 And yet Second Thought claimed by including both employers and employees in the DAF it meant it wasn’t a real union… Even though neither the leader or follower have any more or less power (although as Tik has shown kommisars were more willing to follow the followers demands over the leaders demands) and is literally a classless state hence why employer and employee were replaced simply by leader and follower
Not to mention the fact he ignored that literally every socialist country banned unions and the right to strike or collectively bargain but apparently that’s not real socialism
People have asked me to 'respond" to Second Thought directly for this exact reason. But I don't see the point. I'd rather continue to produce content like this and let the facts speak for themselves.
@@TheImperatorKnight Literally everything from Second Thought’s video is the exact same nonsense arguments even going as far to quote Germa Bel’s Against the Mainstream as the smoking gun to Hitler’s “privatization”
Couple that with something about worker’s democracy and racism and it is a typical champagne socialist take (and a copy of socialist propagandist Ishay Landa who argues socialism is when the workers only work 3 days a week, get endless welfare and there is sunshine and rainbows)
@@TheImperatorKnight He even pulls out Germa Bel’s article as the smoking gun of privatization. It is basically a copy of every champagne socialist argument
I believe this especially has been promoted by socialist propagandist Ishay Landa who gave the same talking points. This was an excerpt from an article he wrote for Jacobin
“Right-wingers love to insist that members of Adolf Hitler’s party were socialists. But Nazism’s real economic policies upheld hypercapitalist principles rooted in social Darwinist ideas about the value of human life. They weren’t socialists at all.”
He also essentially played the claimed national socialism is capitalism in decay argument
“They were strongly capitalist. The Nazis placed great emphasis on private property and free competition. It’s true that they intervened in the free market, but it was also a time of a systemic failure of capitalism on a global scale. Almost all states intervened in the market at the time, and they did so to save the capitalist system from itself. This has nothing to do with socialist sentiment: it was pro-capitalist. In a way, there’s a parallel there with the way big banks were bailed out by governments after the 2008 financial crisis broke out. That, of course, did not reflect socialist intentions in any way, either. It was merely an attempt to stabilize the system a little bit.”
They emphasized private property except for when they stripped everyone of their right to property and competition except for when they consolidated businesses into conglomerates to better control them. And of course he blamed the boom bust cycle and great depression on capitalism when in reality they were caused by state intervention via the Dawes Plan which saw the US loan money to Germany. He also ignored Hitler continued these interventionist policies after an economic recovery, sometimes doubling down on them.
Reading more about this Landa guy, who also claimed Oswald Spranger was not a “real socialist” his idea of socialism is when the workers only work 3 days a week, get free stuff and there is sunshine and rainbows every day.
@@TheImperatorKnight Their core argument is “well capitalists countries did the same as the nazis so therefore the nazis were capitalists” rather than reconsidering how “capitalists” those capitalist countries were
Thank you for this video. Presented with great nuance. This was info that i lacked.
Thank you for another inciteful video, well done, sir!
Another extensive national socialism economy video, great! Personally, I find these videos to be your most entertaining, Tik. Hopefully we can see more of them, in the future. Keep it up, Tik!
If you were in charge of Germany in 1933 what type of economic policy would you formulate with people starving ?
Great video, thanks TIK.
There was the people’s car the people’s radio, the people’s motorbike, the people’s sewing machine, and the people’s elbow!😂
My grandparents visited Germany in summer 1938. The country was thriving. The masses very happy. Full employment, money to spend.
Where the NSDAP and Keynesians differ is that the NSDAP government didn't borrow, they simply printed the cash needed to obtain goods and services and the Mark was merely a receipt for goods and services and not a debt instrument.
Keynesianism is more akin to FDRs New Deal which was a whole other box of nails. Hitler's economy was just an eclectic mix of corporatism, medieval guild system, planned economy and to an extent - state capitalism, all fueled by robbery and plundering of annexed and conquered territories.
Also, FDRs New Deal was briefely praised by Charles Coughlin, one of America's pre war populist/fascistic leaders who were sympatheic to the Hitler, prior to Coughlin making an 180 on FDR and declaring him a 'pawn of da joos'.
I have nothing but respect for you TIK.
Hey TIK, I have a question that I wanted to ask about your content. I can appreciate the WW2 content you put out there for people to watch, however, what I would like to learn more about is WW1 (I’m not going to call it “the war to end all wars” because that’s not how nations and wars work and seeing how in a few years, wars are still happening like Russian Civil War, Irish Civil War, Greco-Turkish War, Spanish Rif War, etc. And in a couple decades, WW2 starts, so much for the so called “war to end all wars.” I’ll just called it the Great War or the First World War or World War 1 because these terms makes more sense to me). Would you do WW1 videos for your channel besides WW2? I’m not asking you to do Battlestorm Verdun or Battlestorm Gallipoli, these series would take forever to make because these battles are 9-10 months in length and seeing Battlestorm Stalingrad’s length and the amount of time it takes for you to make them, these new series ideas are dead on arrival. But for specific topic videos such as Nationalism, Militarism, Scramble for Africa, Boxer Rebellion in China, etc. These are the videos that I would like to see more of. There are plenty of videos that we can go over unstop, but I keep it brief just for you to have an idea. Other than that, that’s it. Tell me what you think about this?
I find it funny that people still miss the entire context when socialism is mentioned , usually meant as "state takes care of people" being heard as "taking your money, destroying capitalism, everyone owns everything"
"Fuhrer, why cant i have more materials for u boats?" "They were made into cruise ships, Donitz" :(
The nazis fought the communists. This doesn't mean they were opposites, but were fighting for political power. Hitler wasn't an aristocrat or royalist, but came from the working class. His sense of culture was more to do with living with practicalities.
Operation Barbarossa wasn't justified solely on Hitlers anticommunism, it was aimed at establishing the Lebensraum, as envisioned in Hitlers Mein Kampf - USSR actually attempted to join the tripartite pact in 1940.
This is very interesting, thanks for making this.
Fascinating video, thank you.
Controling the economy is the smallest crime made by these guys. I'm for a free market but still believe that rules are necessary because greedy entrepreneurs can't be more trusted than the state.
My man TIK citing my man Dr. Thomas Sowell!
One of my favorite things about TIK's videos are not the videos themselves. But the Third Positionists in the comment section completely missing the point.
Another interesting and well presented topic. For the sake of all people who respect fair and accurate history, I implore you to keep working. You are making a difference.
I didn't get any notification for this video and I have the bell selected, it always angers me when this happens. Nonetheless, loved the video and your research.
Wealth inequality fell in Germany during the National Socialists' rule. In 1929 the top 1% held 42% of the wealth. By 1940 is was 29%. Some of this is attributed to the Depression, but the wealth disparity continued to fall after the NSDAP opened the spending floodgates. In comparison to its peers UK, US, Sweden, and France, Germany's 1% held the lowest per cent of national wealth. In Germany's history since 1895 the two largest declines in their wealth occurred from 1915 to 1924, then rebounded greatly, and from '29 onwards.
Wealth inequality is caused by Lazy working class people
Wealth concentration was down across the industrialized world, the US decline was about 15%. The depression decimated industry, stands to reason that there'd be less industrialists.
@@kenon6968 In a working Industrial Economy, it is very normal for there to be some talented hard working gifted business people, that take the lead to work intelligently & hard, then after some time of growth & investment their business may probably bear fruit and make profits. Why is it that so many Socialist-Cranks believe that their profit making must only be in line with anyone else in their same Nation State ? Why is it that if the "wealth-gap" between the so-called have & have nots becomes larger, is it regarded as an injustice ?
In a working Industrial Economy, it is very normal for there to be some talented hard working gifted business people, that take the lead to work intelligently & hard, then after some time of growth & investment their business may probably bear fruit and make profits. Why is it that so many Socialist-Cranks believe that their profit making must only be in line with anyone else in their same Nation State ? Why is it that if the "wealth-gap" between the so-called have & have nots becomes larger, is it regarded as an injustice ?
Another interesting analysis, thank you TIK. Also glad to see that the next Battlestorm is finally coming out, I missed your was videos.
And yes, I'd say that the parallels between Nazi Germany and the EU are concerning... if they weren't frightening already.
amazing video always focused my reading on war so lot new info for me thx lot
Deleting women and not counting them as unemployed is not considered fraud. They were actually working in the most sacred and most important task in the world. Giving birth, taking care of and raising children, taking care of a home, the role of a housewife in her nation, is a billion times more important than the role of 99/100 female employees.
Exactly
Capitaldumbs can't fathom this simple concept.
Producing babies is way more important that having female factory workers
Assuming they were doing any of those things that leaves out a large portion of women who are neither married nor actively in the process of giving birth nor in raising kids, so what do they do? twiddle their thumbs until you ask them out?
Yikes, listen to yourself man
I believe that if fathers can also be workers and pursue their own artistic, philosophical, scientific and/or academic endeavours/careers, so can women.
God wouldn't have given women intellect nor the hability to do work, science or art if he didn't meant women to do more things other than being homemakers.
NS welfare vid, nice
Thanks for the content tik!
You could do a video about third positionism in particular or maybe with other topics combined. Both in history and today. This could really itch youtubes nerves tho.
>This could really itch youtubes nerves tho.
I'd say ease into it. The facts are irrefutable, but a sarcastic meme approach and going overly fast might be enough to trigger a mean cramp.
No such thing as "third positionism"
@@hanklesacks Turd positionism.
Most interesting and thought provoking!
Really enjoyed this, thanks!
You aren't telling me anything that I didn't already know. This was the way I was taught about National Socialism way back in the early 70's at university, What you have done is given me list of up to date sources that I can use in teaching my high school history classes. You do vex me however, with your constant criticism of Keynesian economics. You are beating a dead horse. You have made your point. I don't agree with you, but I am going to leave it alone. We agree on National Socialism as socialism. We agree that Hitler and his movement is definitely "secular" religion, as is Communism. Our differences on economic policy will remain different.
Robert
I thank God everyday I found your channel. You're a true hero against the ruinous powers (socialism)
It seems what he described improved the lives of ordinary people. Why are you against such economic policies which improved lives?
Please make a video about the organization Strength through Joy. I don't find any detailed video about it in English.
TIK, If you ever get a chance could you do a video on groups like the Hungarian Arrow Cross Militia? Love your content!
National Socialist - the name gives it away really
00:25:41 In defense of stupid people Corona is bottled catpiss, hence the lime slice to hide the flavor in their comercials.
In a more serious note, EXCELENT work as always
I agree, it's a terrible drink. However, it was the ONLY drink left in the entire aisle. They bought all the other drinks (even the other bad ones) but left this one, and it's purely because of the name.
Very sporting of you to try and help the idiots out there. 👏🏻 (golf clap.) 😉
2:02 I wanted to mention this several times previously under other videos... do you actually realize that vast majority of these social benefit regulations (rent, insurance, coal/heating payments etc.), corporate agreements with unions, etc. are still in place till today in both Germany and Austria? Oh yes, they are. Let's now watch the rest of the video 🍿🍿🍿
I wish this kind of history wasn't so suppressed in germany. Its beginning to repeat itself