🤩 I guess I’m going to be using these personally, •.• finding a shortcut/modern shorthand is amazing for when I want to say a lot but limited characters get in the way.
There are countless logograms in maths. The < and > are the ones everyone uses in school (lesser and greater than). But then you’ve got many others that are used all the time in college clases. ∀ means “for all”, ⇔ “if and only if”, ⇒ “implies”, ∈ “belongs to”, ∃ “exists”, ∨ “or”, ^ “and”. They are very often used for mathematical logic.
Funny thing about the “=>” or “implies” is that I don’t remember ever being told what it specifically means in mathematics. All I remember from that lesion was that it was used to show one whole equation could be solved into something else. The teacher ran out of room under the equation on the board. I went on using it all through high school and into engineering college. I never, once, remember being called out on using it but that everyone that read it immediately understood it’s meaning from context. Very interesting.
@@macmurfy2jka that was pretty much my experience too in high school math. Usually math teachers don’t care to explain why they use certain symbols or what they actually mean, and as a student you don’t question it and just imitate the teacher (there are exceptions tho, there’s some teachers out there that go all the way to explain those “little” details to everyone). Personally, it wasn’t until I took discreet math in college that i truly understood what every one of the logograms meant. After that everything makes much more sense, and reading calculus and algebra books and exercises is way easier, because you actually know what all of these little drawings mean lol I remember a friend in high school that tbh wasn’t that good at math, and we were learning how to solve inequations, very simple ones where you just had to open the absolute value and solve the equation, and to me it was the easiest thing ever, like if you actually understood what you were doing (calculating a distance) and you understood what an absolute value is and what the greater/lesser than logograms meant (all things that we had been taught already), then it was rather intuitive what you had to do. But this friend clearly didn’t understand all of those things, so he would simply memorize the procedure and what you had to do in every situation. And it wasn’t just him, a lot of other kids would do the same, they literally memorized how to solve each problem and they weren’t even able to differentiate > from
Japanese Kanji are ideographs and not entirely logograms. When written as single character most Kanji have a kun'yomi reading which is generally the Japanese word that the ideograph represents. So 火 is read 'hi' (pronounced hee) and is the word for fire. But when written in compound words the Kanji may use a different on'yomi reading - usually related to the pronunciation of the character in Chinese. So 火曜日 is read kayoobi which means Tuesday (or literally fire day) and often Tuesday is abbreviated 火 and read ka
And that's why not even the average japanese person has mastered kanji. They can real all the common ones, but can't write a lot of them. The obscure kanji are read mostly using context.
I just don't understand why kanji should even be referenced. The original and the base reference language is Hanzi, the Chinese writing system. The word "kanji' is basically the Japanese pronunciation of 'hanzi'. Similarly the Korean 'hanja' is the Korean pronunciation of 'hanzi'.
Another use of ampersands is when groupings of words is necessary but when repeated use of the word “and” would be ambiguous. Consider the sentence: “My favorite sandwiches are bacon & tomato and peanut butter & jelly.” Using the ampersand to connect the ingredients of the sandwiches (as opposed to the sandwiches themselves) clarifies that we are referring to two sandwiches with two ingredients each, rather than four sandwiches with one ingredient each. The ampersand is considered to be a “stronger” connector than the word “and”. That may be why it’s used so often in names of companies, implying that the parts of the name are not to be broken apart arbitrarily. Consider: “Two large companies are Dun & Bradstreet and Procter & Gamble.”
I'm surprised the video didn't mention the distinction between the use of 'and' and '&' in credited works. If a work is credited to 'John & Mary' it means they collaborated as a team. If it's credited to 'John and Mary' it means they worked on it separately and are both getting credit for their individual work.
Not being much of a maths brain - I used the therefore symbol when writing notes during a history lecture for example - as well as using “•/.” to mean “between”
The # (hashtag or octothorpe) is often used as a logogram and read as "number" or "pound" sometimes depending on whether is written before or after a series of digits. In social media it is often read aloud as "hashtag", but I'm not sure if this really a logogram or a grammatical symbol (like quotation marks) that gives the following word a special connotation.
Actually, it originally was a literal abbreviation for “pounds”. Sometimes scribes would write “lb” with the lower stroke of the b crossing through the l, and it eventually broke off as its own thing
One other symbol, which my grandmother the nurse used a lot, was the symbol for "with," which is a lower case C with a line over it. She used it so much, a lot of her old letters and recipe cards have that on them in place of the word. Just thought I'd share. 🙂
@@LuisSierra42 Nurses shorthand. Rather much like the three dots in a triangle in scientific language meaning "therefore." So, likely it is English, but being medical, it could be related to Latin in some fashion? Hope that is helpful.
One that's used a lot in the medical field we borrowed from math: a triangle, the Greek letter delta Δ, means 'change.' We use it commonly in medicine to write notes like, "Δ amoxicillin to liquid"
I agree with you about emojis. There's nothing wrong with having a way of spicing up your text when you're texting a friend or whatever. Also I interpret the skull emoji as more of a reserved, faux-regretful laugh, like the visual is someone putting their hand over their mouth and giggling.
@@daisybrain9423I agree that emojis are not inherently logograms. Although, there certainly are ways to use them that do allow them to function as logograms. For example, "I ❤ you," or "I'm going to 🇫🇷". Hmm maybe it's not done with face emojis though...
I learned the "therefore" symbol nearly 50 years ago. If I'm taking notes now, I still use it. IIRC, upside down it means "because". I know that _does_ have a use, but I can't be 100% certain what for (any mathematicians out there?) I didn't pick that up, and because I write "bec", that to really decide to use it would mean my note-taking would slow down. I really wanted to learn shorthand in high school (for taking notes) but back then (maybe even now), your academic level dictated the subjects you could do. I wasn't allowed to do anything connected with becoming a secretary, or, heaven forbid, a typist in the typing pool! No, I was supposed to go to uni and... take notes in long form 🤦🏻♀️ I took evening classes for typing when I kicked school in at 17 (pressure is hard on teens!) If you haven't already done it (I'm still working on your back catalogue), a history of shorthand would be really interesting! That was the long way around, eh? 😂
In the US making it hard to take classes outside your intended program is called tracking. It’s been called out but very much still happens. Mostly because resources can be thin and classes conflict, like calculus sections and typing sections happen at the same time and there’s not a lot of secretions of either one. Shorthand is almost another language entirely and may not be easy to master without a lot of practice.
Just wanted to add, the therefore symbol is usually reserved for the conclusion of *proofs,* rather than to simply replace the word "therefore" in the description of an experiment or its results 😉 great stuff otherwise, very interesting!
You mention the word "The" not having it's own logogram, But I can totally imagine it could've had one had things gone slightly different, Historically the word would've been spelled "þe", which would often be written as "þᵉ" or even "þͤ", with the 'e' being smaller and raised, And at one point it was also common for it to be written as "ye" or "yͤ", because the letters þ and y had come to be written pretty similarly (Which is actually where the "Ye" as in "Ye olde..." came from, historically that still would've been pronounced like "The".), If not for the fact that the printing press was coming into widespread use around the same time (Which actually contributed to the "ye" spelling), I could totally imagine þͤ or yͤ over time being simplified into a single symbol.
And in web development and for browsers the & symbol is translated to & as an HTML entity. So you get both the & symbol and the shortform of ampersand. Another fun fact is that there are also some HTML entities for the special characters in different languages. Like the Ø-symbol in Norwegian and Danish, which is written Ø with the entities, and æ is written as æ
You can also use the unicode numbers for these characters -- e.g. & is _&__#x26__;_ (its unicode number in hexadecimal) or _&_ (its unicode number in decimal), and Ø is _&__#xD8__;_ or _&__#216__;._ _EDIT: Ignore UA-cam's (accidental) hashtagging of these._
In Sweden we have another symbol or sign or w/e to shorten the word "and" or in our case "och". Which is an "o" with a line underneath, where the "o" is elevated a bit. Which I suspect came about from people shortening words in early 19th century and/or before. Idk how or why I picked it up, but I always use it instead of the actual word "och" to write on paper.
I think most people now-a-days write just an "o" like Johan o Maria. You can also use "å" as in Johan å Maria. Although not in formal writing. We shorten och to o in speach, which makes it faster and easier to write it with just o. I have seen the underlined o, but mostly in grammar textbooks and never in real life situations. I prefer to use & instead.
Interesting. That’s similar to with and without in science. With is a c with a line over it, representing con, or with in Latin. Without is an s with a line over it, representing sans, or without in Latin.
I started using it instead of typing the word in a d&d game where there was a deity only known (at the time) as Ampersand. Me suddenly using it all the time after a worshiper of Ampersand was introduced was supposed to be a little hint that "hey, this dude is important". Even after that game has ended I've continued to use it & have not typed the word on its own since.
Directional arrows ⬆⬇⬅➡ are great logograms. They can be cardinal, spatial, or even contextual. The last one often means "became" or "goes to/came from" but arrows aren't even limited to what I've listed.
And is so cool. I remember how Anglo-Saxon runes were like modern day letters but also like logograms in which Mann could represent both the Letter M and the word
In programming it is used a lot. The main two uses is as logical operator and as a pointer. As a logical operator is to say that we want two conditions to be both true in order to proceed, like "if (value < 10 && budget > 100) then buy". The other is a bit more tricky to explain: in programming you use variables all the time. They are simply spaces on the computer's memory where you store some data, and as the name suggest, it can vary along the run of the program. A pointer is a special type of variable that instead of storing a number, a letter or something similar, it stores the location in the memory of another variable, and the syntax to do that? "pointer = &variable".
& in Germany is also often called "Kaufmanns Und" And to me it always looked like a stick figure which slammed one hand on the table and holds the other hand open, saying "And? Where's my money?!"
in portuguese, it's _e comercial_ , which means _comercial and_ . e (pronounced /i/) is the portuguese word for _and_ it spanish, y is also pronounced /i/. _y comercial_ means _comercial and_ as well.
There's also a symbol for because, which I'm sure you knew but didn't mention... it's an upside down therefore 😊. I love your videos and always appreciate the information you give ❤
In the film industry, the ampersand symbol has a critical role in how credits are presented, in particular determining whether a story or screenplay is written by multiple individuals or by an established writing team. That is, if a story/screenplay is co-written by two or more people working as individuals on the same project then the actual word "and" is used, for example, the film "Young Frankenstein" is written by Gene Wilder *And* Mel Brooks. However, if the story/screenplay is written by an established writing team then the ampersand symbol is used, such as Bonnie *&* Terry Turner or Edgar Wright *&* Simon Pegg.
I've heard an alternative name for the at sign @ is the amphora. I did find mention of that on the at signs Wikipedia page, but it seems less common than I thought.
It wasn’t so much that it was an alternative name for the symbol. It’s more that it was once happened to be used as a symbol for the existing word ‘amphora’ which was being used to name a Venetian unit if measurement. It was also used to symbolise the word ‘arroba’. We could only really refer to @ as ‘amphora’ if it were being used specifically in that context. Although I do wish more people used its own name as ‘at sign’ or ‘commercial at’ sound clunky and inelegant to me. By contrast I love the richness of the word ‘ampersand’ for &, although ‘asperand’ for @ doesn’t sound as pleasing to my ear. I think I’m put of by the sibilant nature of it. Amphora sounds nicer.
Today I learned that () are called brackets in the UK. I'm used to them being parentheses. [ ] are brackets to me, and { } are braces or curly brackets.
in German "et zeichen" literally means "et" symbol So it was a straight importation since "et" means and which is why I personally knew it as the "und zeichen" so like in English with the common name of and symbol
Just for reference i kept the "et" separate in my word translation because et isn't a word used in German as it is a germanic language like English and not a romance language like french, itallian or spanish The common root of "and" & "und" for the same meaning is still existent in both languages even after the hundreds of years of divergent language evolution
@@heylolp9 I think what he means is "@" because "@" is called an "Ät-Zeichen" in German. It was imported from English and is ONLY used in context with E-Mail adresses. It does NOT mean "und" (and). "&" is called Ampersand or "und-Zeichen" in German. Zeichen being the German word for symbol. Source: I'm German
At 1:07 "Brackets and colons".... Those are parentheses not brackets. They serve two different functions in language, so I don't know how to describe the difference. They are particularly different in mathematics....which is universal.... OOPS!!!!
I would like to point out that languages whose word for "and" is already one letter long, such as the Spanish "y", do not tend to use "&" outside of programming.
When you got to the logogram for "therefore" it reminded me of those analogy tests that would be written with colons to mean "is to" (e.g. "Up : down :: left : ___ " with the answer being "right"). In this case, would ":" be a logogram for "is to" and "::" for "as"?
I agree with you that the therefore anymore should be used more. My dad is a math and science guy and uses that in his notebooks and taught me it when I was in school so I could impress my teachers. I still use it and now I'm studying anthropology and hope to go into linguistics
Before emojis, there were letter combinations, like :) and ;) Us ancients still use them. Very useful in the early days of email as they could defuse bare text.
In Swedish, "and" is "och" but sometimes pronounced as just "o" or "å" in informal casual speech or dialects. Often we will quickly shorten "och" as just "o" or "å" similar to English "n" when texting. However we have a specific symbol of an "o" with a line underneath it which is very commonly used in casual or stylized writing. It basically function the same as "&" but much easier and quicker to write. I don't know how to type it unless in a document software where you could just make an underline under the "o". It kinda looks like the ordinal symbol but with the normal size as a regular lowercase o or an upside down ō. I had no idea how that trend of writing "och" started but our teachers kept using it a lot growing up and they didn't mind us doing the same.
This symbol mentioned here became famous in Brazil because of the duo Sandy & Junior. They used this symbol to replace the letter "e" and it has the same meaning as a junction! So much so that it became a trademark of the duo and in all their career albums they used this symbol, including Sandy even tattooing this symbol in honor the duo !
The &-symbol even found its way into programming languages. I don't know of all of them, but I think, I can assume, that it means "AND" in a boolean way..
There is a logogram for “Since”. It’s an upside down “Therefore” logogram. They are used together for explaining logic in science problem. Since this, then that.
How and why would you attribute Kanji to Japan rather than China where it originates from? The word Kanji is literally letters of Kan (Han), the people of Han China.
There’s also :-, pronounced “dog’s bollocks.” They didn’t stop abbreviating “and.” In Latin, and up until the Renaissance, the abbreviation for “and” is the Tironian et (⁊). It’s still used in Celtic languages like Irish. Also, emoji aren’t logograms. They’re digital gestures.
I like writing the ampersand, but I always bullshit the way it's supposed to look. I'll do a figure 8, but starting with a leg pointing downward on the left. Then, I just tack a "
*Future video ideas as a video series on signs and symbols:* Origins and/or foundations, history, development, evolution, etymologies, historical and modern to contemporary uses, usages and meanings of the most common signs and symbols used in the modern to contemporary English language (or also including the most spoken and written or used and communicated modern to contemporary languages of the world that uses the Latin or Roman script or alphabet as their bases of their own alphabets) and their names. Ex. each of the punctuation marks, mathematical and/or scientific symbols or signs like the mathematical signs or symbols for mathematical operations, signs or symbols of various currencies etc.
The use of the word "ampersand" can be useful again in programming languages and other computer syntax where it is just a symbol and can be referred to by just its name. Similar case with the hash #, though that one already had popularity as "pound" on telephones.
The 'wavy' equal or double Tilda.... frequently just referred to as Tilda is common in math & engineering when showing a rounded number after the actual result to convey approximately.
When I was in college there was a free newspaper (unaffiliated with our official college paper) called "Ampersand" whose masthead just used the symbol. They explained the name inside the front page. Oh, btw, these ( ) are parentheses, not brackets. [ ] These are brackets, and these { } are braces. Also, what you were calling colons : in the list were actually what we refer to as bullets •
2:15 As a Colombian native Spanish speaker I have never seen the & used at all in Spanish, not even in titles or company names. The only exception would be names from the English speaking world like Ben & Jerry's.
The did actually have its own version of this, it was called thorn, it was a single letter but it looked similar to a y and an e next to each other, when printed words started they didnt have a "thorn" character so they used ye instead, thats why old fashioned signs used ye, like ye olde cafe or whatever.
Thorn looks like Þ (lowercase is þ), but it in handwriting it started to look like a Y and the printing press didn't support Þ so people used Y instead and eventually TH
In portuguese it is called "E Comercial", or "Commercial E" (E meaning the letter ifself, not the portuguese world for "AND"). I have no idea why, but maybe it got named like that because it was mostly seen as part of brand names 😅
The asperand was popularized by E-mail, not "usernames" per se. Only later did it end up as a username marker. Also, one monkey is not a representative sample.
Ampersand can also be used as an abbreviation. Because it is a ligature of the Latin _et_ it is occasionally used to write _etc._ as _&c._ There is another logogram with the same meaning, though it is not common at all -- Tironian Et: ⁊ Like &, it can be used to mean and, such as "watch ⁊ learn" or it could be used as an abbreviation, as in ⁊c, likewise meaning _etc._ Tironian Et is rarely seen, though I think it's still used in Ireland and Scotland.
The "∴" comes up all the time in math. To me, that is why "therefore" has its own symbol. It is not odd at all. I use it in fairly normal writing too, though.
German native speaker here. I've never heard anybody use the name "et-Zeichen". The formal name is "kaufmännisches Und-Zeichen" (commercial and-sign), but many people just call it "und-Zeichen" (and-sign) or Ampersand.
What about the "comma"? When used in a list it takes the place of "and" . . . that's why when finishing a list separated by commas the last thing listed is written like this - _"... peppers, coffee and pickles."_ and _not_ like this - _"... peppers, coffee, and pickles."_ - a "comma" and the word "and" together is redundant in this case.
the reason why it is called "y comercial" in spanish is quite funny, we already just use 1 letter for and, "Y", so there is no need to shorten it, but we use & for commercial names of brands and companies to make it more marketable to international consumers
There's an Aardman cartoon called Lloyd of the Flies about a fly called Lloyd and his best mate a pillbug called Abacus. Abacus' father is called Ampersand.
I’m not sure what it’s called, but I’ve always used a different symbol to represent and. The & seems too formal to me so I use a + with the bottom left corner closed off . I can’t find the symbol in a keyboard but it’s like this \+
DOes your langage use the ampersand? And if so what is is called?
I'm from Serbia and we just use the letter "i" so we wouldn't need it
Same thing in Poland, just plain 'i' 🇵🇱🤝🇷🇸
@@mihailoaleksic3330same in spanish, we use "y". The ampersand is just for business and companies
In Dutch, we also use it, but it doesn't really have a name, or at least as far as I know
French does have the ampersand, and it is called here “esperluette”.
The ∴ symbol for 'therefore' is not alone. Flip it upside down, and you have ∵ which means 'because'
I use it as “Since”
Glad I'm not the only one who knows that 😂
🤩 I guess I’m going to be using these personally, •.• finding a shortcut/modern shorthand is amazing for when I want to say a lot but limited characters get in the way.
Math has lots of symbols.
I didn't know that!
There are countless logograms in maths. The < and > are the ones everyone uses in school (lesser and greater than). But then you’ve got many others that are used all the time in college clases. ∀ means “for all”, ⇔ “if and only if”, ⇒ “implies”, ∈ “belongs to”, ∃ “exists”, ∨ “or”, ^ “and”.
They are very often used for mathematical logic.
And non-mathematical logic and Semantics
Funny thing about the “=>” or “implies” is that I don’t remember ever being told what it specifically means in mathematics. All I remember from that lesion was that it was used to show one whole equation could be solved into something else. The teacher ran out of room under the equation on the board.
I went on using it all through high school and into engineering college. I never, once, remember being called out on using it but that everyone that read it immediately understood it’s meaning from context.
Very interesting.
We use it for semantics too, in the field of linguistics
@@macmurfy2jka that was pretty much my experience too in high school math. Usually math teachers don’t care to explain why they use certain symbols or what they actually mean, and as a student you don’t question it and just imitate the teacher (there are exceptions tho, there’s some teachers out there that go all the way to explain those “little” details to everyone).
Personally, it wasn’t until I took discreet math in college that i truly understood what every one of the logograms meant. After that everything makes much more sense, and reading calculus and algebra books and exercises is way easier, because you actually know what all of these little drawings mean lol
I remember a friend in high school that tbh wasn’t that good at math, and we were learning how to solve inequations, very simple ones where you just had to open the absolute value and solve the equation, and to me it was the easiest thing ever, like if you actually understood what you were doing (calculating a distance) and you understood what an absolute value is and what the greater/lesser than logograms meant (all things that we had been taught already), then it was rather intuitive what you had to do. But this friend clearly didn’t understand all of those things, so he would simply memorize the procedure and what you had to do in every situation. And it wasn’t just him, a lot of other kids would do the same, they literally memorized how to solve each problem and they weren’t even able to differentiate > from
Japanese Kanji are ideographs and not entirely logograms. When written as single character most Kanji have a kun'yomi reading which is generally the Japanese word that the ideograph represents. So 火 is read 'hi' (pronounced hee) and is the word for fire. But when written in compound words the Kanji may use a different on'yomi reading - usually related to the pronunciation of the character in Chinese. So 火曜日 is read kayoobi which means Tuesday (or literally fire day) and often Tuesday is abbreviated 火 and read ka
Fun fact: kanji means han letters…
Honestly I'm surprised he mentioned just Japanese and not Chinese too, since kanji were introduced from china through trade and cultural exchange.🤔
And that's why not even the average japanese person has mastered kanji. They can real all the common ones, but can't write a lot of them. The obscure kanji are read mostly using context.
I just don't understand why kanji should even be referenced. The original and the base reference language is Hanzi, the Chinese writing system. The word "kanji' is basically the Japanese pronunciation of 'hanzi'. Similarly the Korean 'hanja' is the Korean pronunciation of 'hanzi'.
@@PChan-yt4uf japanese is more popular on the internet.
Another use of ampersands is when groupings of words is necessary but when repeated use of the word “and” would be ambiguous. Consider the sentence: “My favorite sandwiches are bacon & tomato and peanut butter & jelly.” Using the ampersand to connect the ingredients of the sandwiches (as opposed to the sandwiches themselves) clarifies that we are referring to two sandwiches with two ingredients each, rather than four sandwiches with one ingredient each. The ampersand is considered to be a “stronger” connector than the word “and”.
That may be why it’s used so often in names of companies, implying that the parts of the name are not to be broken apart arbitrarily. Consider: “Two large companies are Dun & Bradstreet and Procter & Gamble.”
I'm surprised the video didn't mention the distinction between the use of 'and' and '&' in credited works. If a work is credited to 'John & Mary' it means they collaborated as a team. If it's credited to 'John and Mary' it means they worked on it separately and are both getting credit for their individual work.
Really?? I didn’t know that. That’s awesome!
This seems so important! Thanks!
TIL!
I’m surprised I’ve never heard of the “therefore” symbol. We definitely need to bring that into the mainstream.
It is, especially in maths when writing proofs
I only know it from being a math major.
@user-sd6nx8ce4b I usually use => or sometimes , depending on if both statements imply the other, or only one does that
@@KrishnaSaravanaNayagam And in logic
Not being much of a maths brain - I used the therefore symbol when writing notes during a history lecture for example - as well as using “•/.” to mean “between”
I love how ampersand is still an absurdly cursive Et when you look at it as well
right and the curly plus sign I use for and in longform is lowercase cursive et
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The # (hashtag or octothorpe) is often used as a logogram and read as "number" or "pound" sometimes depending on whether is written before or after a series of digits. In social media it is often read aloud as "hashtag", but I'm not sure if this really a logogram or a grammatical symbol (like quotation marks) that gives the following word a special connotation.
Actually, it originally was a literal abbreviation for “pounds”. Sometimes scribes would write “lb” with the lower stroke of the b crossing through the l, and it eventually broke off as its own thing
It's just hash. Hashtag means a tag denoted by a hash.
@@TanethThis! The tag is with words following the hash, but everyone calls the symbol hashtag.
In the 90s, we called it ”risuaita” or ”stick fence” in Finnish😀 but nowadays even we call it hashtag
In Spanish speaking countries is called "Gato" which means "cat" because it resembles a tic tac toe game, called "El Gato" in Spanish
One other symbol, which my grandmother the nurse used a lot, was the symbol for "with," which is a lower case C with a line over it. She used it so much, a lot of her old letters and recipe cards have that on them in place of the word. Just thought I'd share. 🙂
Which language is that used in?
@@LuisSierra42 Nurses shorthand. Rather much like the three dots in a triangle in scientific language meaning "therefore." So, likely it is English, but being medical, it could be related to Latin in some fashion? Hope that is helpful.
@@sarahsmart1600also three dots the other way up are a different meaning
I’ve used w/ as my shorthand for with since college
@@sarahsmart1600 Would make sense, since the Latin word for "with" does start with a C
One that's used a lot in the medical field we borrowed from math: a triangle, the Greek letter delta Δ, means 'change.' We use it commonly in medicine to write notes like, "Δ amoxicillin to liquid"
In some old books you can see "&c." used instead of "etc.", which I think is quite charming even though my mind produces "andcetera" when I read it.
Next video idea: Origin of equal sign and it's etymology and use in language
= was made because someone got tired of writing "is equal to" so he put 2 lines of equal length linking the two equations to say that
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@@User-dyn yes but I'm asking about the etymology and why it's called "equal"
@@liraktheminister because it means 2 things are equal to one another???
@@User-dyn yes but where does the definition of *equal* come from is what I'm asking
I agree with you about emojis. There's nothing wrong with having a way of spicing up your text when you're texting a friend or whatever.
Also I interpret the skull emoji as more of a reserved, faux-regretful laugh, like the visual is someone putting their hand over their mouth and giggling.
They're not really logograms at all though. They don't function as words and aren't read out, but instead are used to convey mood and tone.
@@daisybrain9423I agree that emojis are not inherently logograms. Although, there certainly are ways to use them that do allow them to function as logograms. For example, "I ❤ you," or "I'm going to 🇫🇷".
Hmm maybe it's not done with face emojis though...
@@ToastyOs Oh yes, if they are used like that, they certainly are logograms.
I learned the "therefore" symbol nearly 50 years ago. If I'm taking notes now, I still use it. IIRC, upside down it means "because". I know that _does_ have a use, but I can't be 100% certain what for (any mathematicians out there?) I didn't pick that up, and because I write "bec", that to really decide to use it would mean my note-taking would slow down.
I really wanted to learn shorthand in high school (for taking notes) but back then (maybe even now), your academic level dictated the subjects you could do. I wasn't allowed to do anything connected with becoming a secretary, or, heaven forbid, a typist in the typing pool! No, I was supposed to go to uni and... take notes in long form 🤦🏻♀️ I took evening classes for typing when I kicked school in at 17 (pressure is hard on teens!)
If you haven't already done it (I'm still working on your back catalogue), a history of shorthand would be really interesting! That was the long way around, eh? 😂
In the US making it hard to take classes outside your intended program is called tracking. It’s been called out but very much still happens. Mostly because resources can be thin and classes conflict, like calculus sections and typing sections happen at the same time and there’s not a lot of secretions of either one. Shorthand is almost another language entirely and may not be easy to master without a lot of practice.
Just wanted to add, the therefore symbol is usually reserved for the conclusion of *proofs,* rather than to simply replace the word "therefore" in the description of an experiment or its results 😉 great stuff otherwise, very interesting!
You mention the word "The" not having it's own logogram, But I can totally imagine it could've had one had things gone slightly different, Historically the word would've been spelled "þe", which would often be written as "þᵉ" or even "þͤ", with the 'e' being smaller and raised, And at one point it was also common for it to be written as "ye" or "yͤ", because the letters þ and y had come to be written pretty similarly (Which is actually where the "Ye" as in "Ye olde..." came from, historically that still would've been pronounced like "The".), If not for the fact that the printing press was coming into widespread use around the same time (Which actually contributed to the "ye" spelling), I could totally imagine þͤ or yͤ over time being simplified into a single symbol.
I've seen it written in historical texts as just Y but that seems like more of an abbreviation than anything else
|e something like this - basically loop of thorn replaced with e.
Thorn was commonly written like this to mean "that": ꝥꝤ
I think if it was made it'll just be a Y with the right horn replaced with a lowercased e
So a Y with a nice swirl
@@DragonTheOneDZA I like that.
The kanji like the hanzi are ideographs more than logographs.
A lot of characters are used to depict abstract ideas or actions
And in web development and for browsers the & symbol is translated to & as an HTML entity. So you get both the & symbol and the shortform of ampersand. Another fun fact is that there are also some HTML entities for the special characters in different languages. Like the Ø-symbol in Norwegian and Danish, which is written Ø with the entities, and æ is written as æ
You can also use the unicode numbers for these characters -- e.g. & is _&__#x26__;_ (its unicode number in hexadecimal) or _&_ (its unicode number in decimal), and Ø is _&__#xD8__;_ or _&__#216__;._
_EDIT: Ignore UA-cam's (accidental) hashtagging of these._
I love the therefore symbol! I learned about it in my logic class, and it's become pretty useful when I'm trying to take notes as fast as possible.
In Sweden we have another symbol or sign or w/e to shorten the word "and" or in our case "och". Which is an "o" with a line underneath, where the "o" is elevated a bit. Which I suspect came about from people shortening words in early 19th century and/or before. Idk how or why I picked it up, but I always use it instead of the actual word "och" to write on paper.
I think most people now-a-days write just an "o" like Johan o Maria. You can also use "å" as in Johan å Maria. Although not in formal writing. We shorten och to o in speach, which makes it faster and easier to write it with just o. I have seen the underlined o, but mostly in grammar textbooks and never in real life situations. I prefer to use & instead.
Interesting. That’s similar to with and without in science. With is a c with a line over it, representing con, or with in Latin. Without is an s with a line over it, representing sans, or without in Latin.
I started using it instead of typing the word in a d&d game where there was a deity only known (at the time) as Ampersand. Me suddenly using it all the time after a worshiper of Ampersand was introduced was supposed to be a little hint that "hey, this dude is important". Even after that game has ended I've continued to use it & have not typed the word on its own since.
Directional arrows ⬆⬇⬅➡ are great logograms. They can be cardinal, spatial, or even contextual. The last one often means "became" or "goes to/came from" but arrows aren't even limited to what I've listed.
6:25 Basically, the 'elemenopee' of its time
∵ is also a thing, it is used in math to denote "because". It's basically just an upside down therefore XD
When the topic drifted to emojis, I immediately thought of Unicode. Do you plan to make a video about it?
And is so cool. I remember how Anglo-Saxon runes were like modern day letters but also like logograms in which Mann could represent both the Letter M and the word
Irish and Scottish Gaelic use another symbol called a Tironian Et to replace their word for and, which looks like this ⁊
In programming it is used a lot. The main two uses is as logical operator and as a pointer. As a logical operator is to say that we want two conditions to be both true in order to proceed, like "if (value < 10 && budget > 100) then buy". The other is a bit more tricky to explain: in programming you use variables all the time. They are simply spaces on the computer's memory where you store some data, and as the name suggest, it can vary along the run of the program. A pointer is a special type of variable that instead of storing a number, a letter or something similar, it stores the location in the memory of another variable, and the syntax to do that? "pointer = &variable".
& in Germany is also often called "Kaufmanns Und"
And to me it always looked like a stick figure which slammed one hand on the table and holds the other hand open, saying "And? Where's my money?!"
"...with perhaps the most well-known of them being Japanese's kanji." Chinese logograms: "Are we a joke to you?"
in portuguese, it's _e comercial_ , which means _comercial and_ . e (pronounced /i/) is the portuguese word for _and_
it spanish, y is also pronounced /i/. _y comercial_ means _comercial and_ as well.
not really "commercial and", but actually "commercial e", as an "alternative letter E of the comercial kind"
There's also a symbol for because, which I'm sure you knew but didn't mention... it's an upside down therefore 😊. I love your videos and always appreciate the information you give ❤
In the film industry, the ampersand symbol has a critical role in how credits are presented, in particular determining whether a story or screenplay is written by multiple individuals or by an established writing team. That is, if a story/screenplay is co-written by two or more people working as individuals on the same project then the actual word "and" is used, for example, the film "Young Frankenstein" is written by Gene Wilder *And* Mel Brooks. However, if the story/screenplay is written by an established writing team then the ampersand symbol is used, such as Bonnie *&* Terry Turner or Edgar Wright *&* Simon Pegg.
I mean, I guess ? could count as a logogram sometimes. In a text for example
Alice: Gran's bitten the door again
Bob: ???
! and ‽ can also be logograms in comics letting.
If you stack two tildes on top of each other ~ it means "equals approximately".
I've heard an alternative name for the at sign @ is the amphora. I did find mention of that on the at signs Wikipedia page, but it seems less common than I thought.
It wasn’t so much that it was an alternative name for the symbol. It’s more that it was once happened to be used as a symbol for the existing word ‘amphora’ which was being used to name a Venetian unit if measurement. It was also used to symbolise the word ‘arroba’. We could only really refer to @ as ‘amphora’ if it were being used specifically in that context. Although I do wish more people used its own name as ‘at sign’ or ‘commercial at’ sound clunky and inelegant to me. By contrast I love the richness of the word ‘ampersand’ for &, although ‘asperand’ for @ doesn’t sound as pleasing to my ear. I think I’m put of by the sibilant nature of it. Amphora sounds nicer.
Today I learned that () are called brackets in the UK. I'm used to them being parentheses. [ ] are brackets to me, and { } are braces or curly brackets.
Parentes, hakparentes (hook-} and klammerparentes (staple-) in Swedish. 😊
You missed a good logogram. In math, in addition to ∴ (therefore), we also use the upside down version , ∵ (because).
in German "et zeichen" literally means "et" symbol
So it was a straight importation since "et" means and which is why I personally knew it as the "und zeichen" so like in English with the common name of and symbol
Just for reference i kept the "et" separate in my word translation because et isn't a word used in German as it is a germanic language like English and not a romance language like french, itallian or spanish
The common root of "and" & "und" for the same meaning is still existent in both languages even after the hundreds of years of divergent language evolution
@@heylolp9 I think what he means is "@" because "@" is called an "Ät-Zeichen" in German.
It was imported from English and is ONLY used in context with E-Mail adresses.
It does NOT mean "und" (and).
"&" is called Ampersand or "und-Zeichen" in German. Zeichen being the German word for symbol.
Source: I'm German
0:39 A very similar similar system is used for Chinese, and another one is sometimes used in
Korean
8:04 If you turn ∴ upside down, it means because
At 1:07
"Brackets and colons"....
Those are parentheses not brackets. They serve two different functions in language, so I don't know how to describe the difference. They are particularly different in mathematics....which is universal....
OOPS!!!!
Great video! I was surprised you didn't mention that an old abbreviation for the Latin phrase "et cetera" was "&c".
I would like to point out that languages whose word for "and" is already one letter long, such as the Spanish "y", do not tend to use "&" outside of programming.
1:19 dooooo iiiiit
When you got to the logogram for "therefore" it reminded me of those analogy tests that would be written with colons to mean "is to" (e.g. "Up : down :: left : ___ " with the answer being "right"). In this case, would ":" be a logogram for "is to" and "::" for "as"?
ooh ampersand always makes me think of the store chain Marks & Spencers
A lot of people also use a plus sign to mean "and," usually when writing a short note.
Fun fact: The word "that" used to have its own logogram which resembled the now unused English letter thorn (Þ þ).
I agree with you that the therefore anymore should be used more. My dad is a math and science guy and uses that in his notebooks and taught me it when I was in school so I could impress my teachers. I still use it and now I'm studying anthropology and hope to go into linguistics
Before emojis, there were letter combinations, like :) and ;) Us ancients still use them. Very useful in the early days of email as they could defuse bare text.
They often suffice & are less intrusive
Am large in charge of recent y
I home my do searching the house for
And I can only/turn up - or??
The
In Swedish, "and" is "och" but sometimes pronounced as just "o" or "å" in informal casual speech or dialects. Often we will quickly shorten "och" as just "o" or "å" similar to English "n" when texting.
However we have a specific symbol of an "o" with a line underneath it which is very commonly used in casual or stylized writing. It basically function the same as "&" but much easier and quicker to write. I don't know how to type it unless in a document software where you could just make an underline under the "o". It kinda looks like the ordinal symbol but with the normal size as a regular lowercase o or an upside down ō.
I had no idea how that trend of writing "och" started but our teachers kept using it a lot growing up and they didn't mind us doing the same.
6:45 plus C&A and H&M
(from a view across the sea)
This symbol mentioned here became famous in Brazil because of the duo Sandy & Junior.
They used this symbol to replace the letter "e" and it has the same meaning as a junction!
So much so that it became a trademark of the duo and in all their career albums they used this symbol, including Sandy even tattooing this symbol in honor the duo !
The &-symbol even found its way into programming languages. I don't know of all of them, but I think, I can assume, that it means "AND" in a boolean way..
I will always love the fact that the English word for & is prty much just & &.
3:09 the had it's own logogram based off of þ but became obsolete
There is a logogram for “Since”. It’s an upside down “Therefore” logogram. They are used together for explaining logic in science problem. Since this, then that.
How and why would you attribute Kanji to Japan rather than China where it originates from? The word Kanji is literally letters of Kan (Han), the people of Han China.
I thought the exact same thing, like why the heck would he use Japanese to talk about Chinese symbols lol
I'd love to see a video digging more into emojis and what makes them different from other historical pictogram systems
The ꝥ symbol (the letter thorn with a stroke) was once commonly used as a shorthand for 'that' - commonly used by Tolkien too.
There’s also :-, pronounced “dog’s bollocks.”
They didn’t stop abbreviating “and.” In Latin, and up until the Renaissance, the abbreviation for “and” is the Tironian et (⁊). It’s still used in Celtic languages like Irish.
Also, emoji aren’t logograms. They’re digital gestures.
I like writing the ampersand, but I always bullshit the way it's supposed to look. I'll do a figure 8, but starting with a leg pointing downward on the left. Then, I just tack a "
Oh I love the origin story of the ampersand &!!!!
what about #
*Future video ideas as a video series on signs and symbols:* Origins and/or foundations, history, development, evolution, etymologies, historical and modern to contemporary uses, usages and meanings of the most common signs and symbols used in the modern to contemporary English language (or also including the most spoken and written or used and communicated modern to contemporary languages of the world that uses the Latin or Roman script or alphabet as their bases of their own alphabets) and their names.
Ex. each of the punctuation marks, mathematical and/or scientific symbols or signs like the mathematical signs or symbols for mathematical operations, signs or symbols of various currencies etc.
In German, the "&" is also, if not more, know as "Kaufmanns-Und", which means "merchant's and".
The use of the word "ampersand" can be useful again in programming languages and other computer syntax where it is just a symbol and can be referred to by just its name. Similar case with the hash #, though that one already had popularity as "pound" on telephones.
The 'wavy' equal or double Tilda.... frequently just referred to as Tilda is common in math & engineering when showing a rounded number after the actual result to convey approximately.
When I was in college there was a free newspaper (unaffiliated with our official college paper) called "Ampersand" whose masthead just used the symbol. They explained the name inside the front page.
Oh, btw, these ( ) are parentheses, not brackets. [ ] These are brackets, and these { } are braces.
Also, what you were calling colons : in the list were actually what we refer to as bullets •
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As a Colombian native Spanish speaker I have never seen the & used at all in Spanish, not even in titles or company names. The only exception would be names from the English speaking world like Ben & Jerry's.
9:26 My language definitely doesn’t have aubergine, but does recognize eggplant! I had fried eggplant for dinner actually and it was delicious.
The did actually have its own version of this, it was called thorn, it was a single letter but it looked similar to a y and an e next to each other, when printed words started they didnt have a "thorn" character so they used ye instead, thats why old fashioned signs used ye, like ye olde cafe or whatever.
Thorn looks like Þ (lowercase is þ), but it in handwriting it started to look like a Y and the printing press didn't support Þ so people used Y instead and eventually TH
Had to read the title for a good minute
Ive always written it as a stylized epsilon ampersand ( i think thats the term) like a 3 with a dot or dash at the top and the bottom
Surely the & is just a + sign written in script, doing the two strokes without lifting the pen. That’s what I always presumed.
In portuguese it is called "E Comercial", or "Commercial E" (E meaning the letter ifself, not the portuguese world for "AND"). I have no idea why, but maybe it got named like that because it was mostly seen as part of brand names 😅
He mentioned & is called “y comercial” in Spanish. Personally, I’ve never heard that.
In German it's Kaufmanns-und (business man and)
The asperand was popularized by E-mail, not "usernames" per se. Only later did it end up as a username marker.
Also, one monkey is not a representative sample.
YES! Let us reclaim the "therefore" symbol from the secret society that's hoarding it!
8:30 we should also bring ⇒ (“this implies”) into the mainstream.
The et-zeichen is also called "kaufmännisches und" (kaufmännisch = commercial/ trading/ mercantile; und=and) :)
Ampersand can also be used as an abbreviation. Because it is a ligature of the Latin _et_ it is occasionally used to write _etc._ as _&c._
There is another logogram with the same meaning, though it is not common at all -- Tironian Et: ⁊
Like &, it can be used to mean and, such as "watch ⁊ learn" or it could be used as an abbreviation, as in ⁊c, likewise meaning _etc._ Tironian Et is rarely seen, though I think it's still used in Ireland and Scotland.
The "∴" comes up all the time in math. To me, that is why "therefore" has its own symbol. It is not odd at all.
I use it in fairly normal writing too, though.
Is this a tally Hall reference🤔
German native speaker here. I've never heard anybody use the name "et-Zeichen". The formal name is "kaufmännisches Und-Zeichen" (commercial and-sign), but many people just call it "und-Zeichen" (and-sign) or Ampersand.
Tried using this in class in 2nd grade and was rebuked for not spelling and! DANKS ALOT
What about the "comma"? When used in a list it takes the place of "and" . . . that's why when finishing a list separated by commas the last thing listed is written like this - _"... peppers, coffee and pickles."_ and _not_ like this - _"... peppers, coffee, and pickles."_ - a "comma" and the word "and" together is redundant in this case.
In your previous video you pointed out the letter 'X' is used as logogram for cross or for kiss.
the reason why it is called "y comercial" in spanish is quite funny, we already just use 1 letter for and, "Y", so there is no need to shorten it, but we use & for commercial names of brands and companies to make it more marketable to international consumers
Octothorp! Come on. Show some love to the little guy and the small # of its fans.
There's an Aardman cartoon called Lloyd of the Flies about a fly called Lloyd and his best mate a pillbug called Abacus. Abacus' father is called Ampersand.
I’d also add “w/“. Most of the letters are replaced.
In the proposed Shavian Alphabet, "the, of, to, &, for" could be represented with a single letter/character too.
@sign is another intestering sign. It has completely different names in other languages. In Korea, they call it a word for a shell fish
There's also the tilde ~ for 'approximately'
So we are supposed to learn from a person who apparently hasn't heard of CHINESE and doesn't know that Japanese Kanji ARE ALL CHINESE CHARACTERS!!!
Some languages just used a one character word for "and". Spanish y. Italian e. Russian и. Yes they're all approximately the same sound.
I’m not sure what it’s called, but I’ve always used a different symbol to represent and. The & seems too formal to me so I use a + with the bottom left corner closed off . I can’t find the symbol in a keyboard but it’s like this \+
I always thought it was just a badly shaped treble clef.
The title gave me an Aneurysm I almost I didn't know what the subject was for a second