I don't feel so bad about my cheap ISK branded aluminium boom after seeing how bad this is. The ISK one I have looks similar to the Rode poles. I guess it's heavy, but it locks up ok, and does the job fairly well. The Neewer looks and sounds like garbage!
iSK is a legitimate manufacturer which makes solid budget gear. Neewer is not. Neewer is one of those companies that just rebrands Chinese stuff for the international market.
It’s extremely educational fir people who wanna start with low budget filmmaking. I am learning so much about what cheap and good boom poles separates.
I bought one of these a couple of years ago to mount on a C stand for sit-down interviews. Has worked great for this usage. This might be the first video I've seen reviewing any boom pole, so it would be good to see how a "good" boom pole compares.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! Starts video by cutting towards throat. Is this foreshadowing about how you’re going to end the video?
My first boom pole was a Pro Aim an Indian brand, it came with a horrible blimp with small rubber bands that kept coming off and therefore not being able to sustain the weight of the mic or keep it in place. The pole was a little better but I was afraid of it breaking as it would get flimsy after stretching it out all the way. From that pole, I upgraded to an aluminum pole from K-Tek, the 144CCR. Which was a step above, I was still using it up until 2 months ago. Finally, now I have a used K-Tek 150 CCR, which is a whole lot lighter and I'm very happy with. After seeing your frustration with this pole it reminded me of how long I came when I first started. Thanks for starting this channel and educating me as well others like me and preventing us from buying cheap products and making us better at our job.
This was the first boom pole I ever owned! My first big upgrade was to an ambient quick pole because this thing drove me nuts, It made so much rattling noise, and eventually, one of the knuckles got completely jammed. Upgrading to an ambient was the best purchase I ever made.
I wish Allen had followed his own advice. As my mother used to say: "If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all." If Allen had put his mind to it, he probably could have come up with 2 or 3 additional mods like the bongo tie you could do to make the pole better. Things like dry silicon lube on the aluminum and collars or cutting away the foam. But it was obvious that Allen had an agenda and had already decided that the pole was a piece of junk. He went on to prove his point. Complaining about it coming in a box? I suspect most boom poles come in a box from the manufacturer. The 3/8 to 5/8 adapter? A nice touch for the intended customer who might be using an inexpensive microphone shock mount. Complaining about the cord not retracting after he abused the cable by disassembling the pole and overstretching the coiled cord? Just complaining after he abused the gear. I wonder if the cord is still overstretched after 24 hours? I normally do not come down hard on a negative review, but this review started with a negative agenda. No looking at any redeeming qualities for the product except for not complaining too much about the XLR connectors. Neewer gear generally is semi-pro to prosumer gear at 10%-20% of the price of the pro gear. A lot of bang for the buck. I bought one of these poles to build an affordable starter boom'n'bag kit to help a friend making a short film. I like it a lot more than the broom pole I started with. And yes, after a few hours my arms were tired. But it got me started. If I start making money with my starter kit, I can then afford to upgrade. As to Allen's initial question "Can you get good sound out of a $50 boom pole?" I would say the answer is a qualified yes but with a higher level of handling noise than a $600 pole.
I understand what you are saying but would like to make it known that my intention from the beginning was to show tricks of the trade to make it have usable sound. I started that way but it was far worse than I had imagined and after working a 14 he day and being up late, it was just comical how bad it was. The issue, Robert, is that it's not a made properly with sound in mind. In order for me to fix it, I'd have to first upgrade the cable so it wouldn't have so much handling noise. A good cable will fix a lot of these issues but also nearly double the price of the pole. I'll end by saying that the thumbnail says my thought about the boom and the title says a pro is reacting to it. I did what I promised. It wasn't a true review. I have ordered another inexpensive boom and will be taking your suggestion and comparing it to two pro booms that are internally coiled. At that point I'll show a few tricks for how to get better results out of the other cheap boom. For that idea, I thank you.
Man, there are vicious takedowns but you took this to a whole new level (also hilarious!). You saved me from buying a Neewer boom pole, ended up going with a shorter Rode instead. BTW we have the same studio headphones. I'm glad they have your seal of approval!
I work in live sports from time to time and I can tell you from personal experience, a 416 ziptied to a camera by the windscreen makes less handling noise than that piece of trash, lol.
What boom pole would you recommend? I'm currently using a K-tek 110 CCR but was looking into a longer carbon fiber k-tek one. Is there a better brand you prefer?
K-Tek makes wonderful booms and if you already like your K-Tek, consider buying another, longer one. They also have the Mighty Boom/Klassic Pro to consider now too.
I use angling landing net poles with cheap thread reducer’s that step down to 1/4” threads. Available from 2 to 5 metres , carbon fibre for less than £20
yeah totally agree here. The cable and plastic knocking around, the weight, the hard to turn (and cheap) collars... it's a nightmare. I modded a boom arm/mic stand that's not adjustable, but at least it's not as loud. Only use on a stand, bad for handling, which is kinda the whole point
I have some Bongo Ties, and love them. I turned a videographer onto them. I’ve not been able to find Elasti-bands, though I’ve made my own following your example here. Where do you get Elasti-bands?
About half the things I've ordered from neewer this year, I've returned. The remaining items... one is dysfunctional but cheap, one seems simple and seems to work, and the other two, well, so far so good. Surprisingly, the only things that seem to work are their video lights. They sent me a crooked tripod once. I assume the lights are outsourced somewhere different from usual
For a future video: what boom pool would you recommend for those with say a $200 or $300 budget? And there are no audio stores near me to get good used gear. B&H is my usual go-to store but I have to get it delivered.
The shock mount I got for my boom pole I had the big whole like that adapter you showed for the Mike Stan clip thing I got a cheap boom pole From guitar Center and the newer one actually it looks better than the one I got at least it has its own cable at the top and go through the pool I have to wrap it around my pole God That didn’t sound right lol
@@SoundSpeeds way better than mine. Here is another "Chef Allen trashes a poorly made boom". I know lack the umph but I can imagine how you would call the team behind this unholy boom a dumb sandwich
Would you recommend budget boom poles for stationary interview setups where the boompole will be fixed to a c-stand...perhaps a budget boom pole with a high quality external XLR cable rather than the "budget" internal wiring?
Alternate Title: "Pro Boom Operator Slowly Dies Inside For 27 Minutes Straight" But seriously, this makes me feel so much better about my cheapo Andoer pole. It's only $30 more than the Neewer, but it's carbon fiber with metal joints, locks and unlocks easily and reliably, and gives you the option to retrofit with a proper cable.
Revenge of the Booooom 6:30. Boom: call me cheap,again… I will more than just bite your hand off… I will boomshakalaka…. I think the sliding friction sound would be great when filming a DJ… just scratch along… I actually found this video helpful.
I found something positive about it… Do you know that person who wants to feel involved but you don't really want them involved… This would be the perfect bumper to give them that you're not worried about breaking and then you can slap some sort of dummy cheap Chinese microphone on the end and they can feel like they're doing something.
If that's your style, sure. I'm more of the kind of person that would hand someone the real thing and make the aware of the skill behind it. This boom is no longer being sold on Amazon as of last month.
That face at 4:37! I guess what can anyone really expect from a $60 boom? I did want to ask you what your recommendation would be for a boom pole that I will be using mainly for static handling on a boom pole holder? Something of good quality that's reasonably priced for that quality (I'll let you decide how much "reasonably price" should be)?
@@SoundSpeeds That's kind of why I mentiont that I'll let you determine "Reasonably Priced" - meaning that while I would like to buy a great boom for $60, really where should I set my pricing expectations for a quality boom - but really it's for static handling on a boom holder for UA-cam videos - either solo in studio or perhaps to do two person interviews with minimal handling.
I'd honestly invest a couple hundred bucks and get a K-Tek Airo or Avalon if Trew's consignment booms aren't in your price range. Quality booms hold their value extremely well and are worth the investment.
@@SoundSpeeds Great. Thanks for the advice. I will move in that direction! I was just looking at Trew's used booms. Several were $500 and one was $375. Just means I gotta save more.
I could write a book here. Bongo tie: Golfers tee? It looks like a bongo! Do you have a heartbeat? : 0 "OH YOU SUCK!" "I AM SO G&%dam& Pi$$ OFF RIGHT NOW (Cartman) I was waiting for the low cost alternative and you delivered! Paint me happy! Thanks Allen
@@SoundSpeeds Next video idea: Pranking my Sound Mixer on set with a Newer boom pole and Rode NTG4 mic. If you replaced your high end equipment with that combo, I’m sure the mixer’s reaction would be hilarious. I’m kidding, of course, about you actually doing that hehe.
@@SoundSpeeds sadly I think its much of the same, I’ve got one as I’m just starting to boom. Foam/rubber noisy grip, and the collars wear out and take many turns to lock. My mixer has definitely noted the handling noise at times. Saving up for an ambient now!
I'd say if you have to use that pole God forbid. Let the foam on because that aluminum pole gets so cold or really hot on extreme temperatures. I personally removed the internal wiring & cut the wire up top and just connect to mic externally because that internal mic cable is super shit. I would like to someday upgrade because that boom pole is so heavy. I appreciate the used boom poles website I will check it out. Thanks.
There had to be something wrong with this boom. Shortly after this video, they discontinued this boom pole and replaced it with the NW-7000; a boom with the same model number as one of their microphones.
Not quite as good as a VDB, but almost :p Imagine extending mid take with this. To be fair I had a cheap "Milliboo" pole (80 euros from china) that was not too bad before it broke (to little overlap when extended, just as with this pole) and I got Kortwich and VDB poles. I sometimes miss the cheap ass foam at the handle, it did help with eliminating transfer noise somewhat.
This pretty much my exact feelings when I unboxed my Rode boom pole. It...sucks... the locking mechanisms have no fucking logic and the noise is horrible. Luckily, the only thing and what I used it for is mount to to a holder for an overhead mic in talking head videos.
What a gear snob. Is a $600 boom pole better than a $60 boom pole? I hope so. Maybe a side by side comparison would be educational. But noise while adjusting pole length is irrelevant because you don't adjust the pole length in the middle of a take. Multiple twists of the collars? Inconvenient but again not impacting audio performance. Cable noise at the head? How does your $600 boom pole react to the same test? As to using a painters pole with an XLR cable I am sure the heavier XLR cable will transmit more noise to the mic. As to the XLR connector at the butt end, there are right angle XLR cables to solve this problem. The only real problem I saw was the plastic rather than rubber sleeves in the collars.
Gear snob? You could say that... or you could say that this is just a piece of crap. Watch my other two reviews of boom poles in this playlist if you want more info on premium products: ua-cam.com/play/PLpPR2HcQu7YI6KpmB1x959F5RZ4TX2G46.html Side by side comparison? Not going to happen because, as you pointed out, there are a lot of differences between a $60 and a $600 boom pole and if I compared them, it would give zero hope as to more inexpensive options. I did reference used professional booms at the end of the video and those are made much better for only a bit more. You can see me often using boom poles in my videos (including my Ambient QP-5150 review) and hear the difference. There will be more boom pole reviews in time. I'm currently testing another for a review and have another lined up after that. The industry standard amount of turns to lock and unlock a boom is 1/4 turn, not 1 full turn with a lot of torque. Again, watch my Ambient or RRS boom pole review to see better knuckles locking. As for adjusting the pole length during a take, yeah, we have to adjust in the middle of a take. I didn't today on set but I did yesterday for two different setups. In other videos on my channel you hear me extend and retract a premium boom at times. You're right though... I may do a dedicated video explaining premium boom performance. As for the painter's pole with good XLR... pros used to use similar products before there were as many commercial booms on the market. If I switched out the cable in the Neewer boom, it would help a lot. Rubbing the Neewer cable made a lot of noise but rubbing my cable transferred nothing. You are correct about the right angle at the bottom of the boom too. As I mentioned my cable didn't do that and many entry level people don't know right angle connectors are available. Rubber isn't necessary on knuckles/locks. Those plastic ones are terrible.
Did you miss the whole concept that these are the tools of the man's trade? Did you actually pay attention to the review. Ever worked 12 hours on a professional set with one of these? But yeah, I'm sure you are the expert here, and none of his concerns have any merit with regard to actually getting the job done with one of these. You are comedy gold, I'll tell ya that.
I'm not angry at him. He did make a couple of good points even though I think many of the people that buy this boom wouldn't know the info he has as a prerequisite.
gear snob? So you're an audio pro then? What feature films have you worked on? He's a pro and is entitled to use whatever gear he wants. And his videos are packed with very useful info. You're keen to criticise others, have you uploaded any audio review videos?
Use it as a cherry picker or a whacking stick for people who get too close for social distancing :^) Anyways, this is perfect in information and presentation. It means a lot for the aspiring boom ops like me.
@@SoundSpeeds you failed at that. If you wanted it to be educational you would have pointed out solutions, not just problems. I want 10 minutes of my life back.
It was educational. I said there was nothing redeeming about it so you know to avoid it. Watch my LyxPro review. That pole was the same price and didn't suck at all levels.
@@SoundSpeeds most people interested in buying this pole are not going to be using it for movies. Would this pole be find for someone that will never have a boom pole operator and will just have it on a C stand boom'ed over the talent for talking head style interviews?
im going to look at another review. Without even veiwing the vi I can tell you are biased lol. You pretty much sold the feeling that your not going to like it before you even open the box.
I was skeptical, certainly, because I'm familiar with the brand. I was very honest in my assessment though and I didn't fake any of my tests. I did showcase another $60 Amazon boom on Thursday and it was better. Much better.
This obviously is not a pro boom pole, and certainly wasn’t designed for your occupation. It’s clearly made for beginner/solo content creators, and will probably sit in a boom pole holder 101% of the time. So this provides literally zero value to the intended customer base. “You hear that? I’m touching the cable, that’s interference noise-“ ain’t nobody just stroking the cable or even touching *that* dang pole while recording, this is absurd 😂 You should be the Before guy in infomercials LOL
There are better booms on the market than this one. A week after my review, they stopped selling it and replaced it with a far better one. Without people like me calling them out for making crap, they won't make better products.
@@SoundSpeeds sure, it’s a cheap-o boom pole. Absolutely. But that’s exactly what *that* customer wants. The only people buying this, are inexperienced first-timers. So for the most part, we’re just excited to have a “real” boom pole. Mine doesn’t even have an internal cable, but it just sits there on a holder, no one’s ever even touching it. Don’t get me wrong: I’d LOVE a $500 boom pole with a Rycote pistol grip at the end for no reason, just like all the cool kids. But I can’t justify that kind of expense as an amateur. So these are the concessions we (knowingly) make.
Although you are a "Pro" this seems to be the only cheap option that is Not as bad as you make it out to be. Considering the next Budget upgrade Boom Pole is 3-4 times the price. I actually am thankful for brands like this for offering us cheaper versions until we get good paying gigs and can afford something "better". I have searched videos and amazon and this is the Only budget option that has pretty decent reviews and has a built in cable. Your video was humorous, but almost snobbish at the same time...
I can see that. Fair enough. I would like to point out that brands like K-Tek, which makes some of the best boom poles used by pros, makes some at $100 that are far better from build to support. I greatly recommend something like the K-Tek Airo
I don't feel so bad about my cheap ISK branded aluminium boom after seeing how bad this is. The ISK one I have looks similar to the Rode poles. I guess it's heavy, but it locks up ok, and does the job fairly well. The Neewer looks and sounds like garbage!
1000%
iSK is a legitimate manufacturer which makes solid budget gear. Neewer is not. Neewer is one of those companies that just rebrands Chinese stuff for the international market.
That's what I've heard but still, I have no experience with ISK.
@@SoundSpeeds Their BM-600 is really good for $100. Full of high quality film capacitors.
High quality film capacitors?
It’s extremely educational fir people who wanna start with low budget filmmaking. I am learning so much about what cheap and good boom poles separates.
And that's very important. Some things you can cheapen out on but a boom pole isn't one of them.
I bought one of these a couple of years ago to mount on a C stand for sit-down interviews. Has worked great for this usage. This might be the first video I've seen reviewing any boom pole, so it would be good to see how a "good" boom pole compares.
I'm starting to do Boom Pole Reviews. Check out this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLpPR2HcQu7YI6KpmB1x959F5RZ4TX2G46.html
Nice, you might wanna try a bamboo pole too since you’ve used trash poles like this. 👍🏾
Might as well. Wanna send me one?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! Starts video by cutting towards throat. Is this foreshadowing about how you’re going to end the video?
Sadly... it's all downhill from there
@@SoundSpeeds Half way through I forgot I was watching a sound speeds video and thought i was watching Buster Keaton.
That thing was like a cornered animal. I wanted to turn it into a spear.
My first boom pole was a Pro Aim an Indian brand, it came with a horrible blimp with small rubber bands that kept coming off and therefore not being able to sustain the weight of the mic or keep it in place. The pole was a little better but I was afraid of it breaking as it would get flimsy after stretching it out all the way. From that pole, I upgraded to an aluminum pole from K-Tek, the 144CCR. Which was a step above, I was still using it up until 2 months ago. Finally, now I have a used K-Tek 150 CCR, which is a whole lot lighter and I'm very happy with. After seeing your frustration with this pole it reminded me of how long I came when I first started. Thanks for starting this channel and educating me as well others like me and preventing us from buying cheap products and making us better at our job.
Absolutely. Thanks for watching!
This was the first boom pole I ever owned! My first big upgrade was to an ambient quick pole because this thing drove me nuts, It made so much rattling noise, and eventually, one of the knuckles got completely jammed. Upgrading to an ambient was the best purchase I ever made.
This to an Ambient? Yeah! That's like upgrading from a junkyard car that drives after being totaled to a Ferrari. Thanks for watching!
I wish Allen had followed his own advice. As my mother used to say: "If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all."
If Allen had put his mind to it, he probably could have come up with 2 or 3 additional mods like the bongo tie you could do to make the pole better. Things like dry silicon lube on the aluminum and collars or cutting away the foam.
But it was obvious that Allen had an agenda and had already decided that the pole was a piece of junk. He went on to prove his point. Complaining about it coming in a box? I suspect most boom poles come in a box from the manufacturer. The 3/8 to 5/8 adapter? A nice touch for the intended customer who might be using an inexpensive microphone shock mount. Complaining about the cord not retracting after he abused the cable by disassembling the pole and overstretching the coiled cord? Just complaining after he abused the gear. I wonder if the cord is still overstretched after 24 hours?
I normally do not come down hard on a negative review, but this review started with a negative agenda. No looking at any redeeming qualities for the product except for not complaining too much about the XLR connectors.
Neewer gear generally is semi-pro to prosumer gear at 10%-20% of the price of the pro gear. A lot of bang for the buck. I bought one of these poles to build an affordable starter boom'n'bag kit to help a friend making a short film. I like it a lot more than the broom pole I started with. And yes, after a few hours my arms were tired. But it got me started. If I start making money with my starter kit, I can then afford to upgrade.
As to Allen's initial question "Can you get good sound out of a $50 boom pole?" I would say the answer is a qualified yes but with a higher level of handling noise than a $600 pole.
I understand what you are saying but would like to make it known that my intention from the beginning was to show tricks of the trade to make it have usable sound. I started that way but it was far worse than I had imagined and after working a 14 he day and being up late, it was just comical how bad it was.
The issue, Robert, is that it's not a made properly with sound in mind. In order for me to fix it, I'd have to first upgrade the cable so it wouldn't have so much handling noise. A good cable will fix a lot of these issues but also nearly double the price of the pole.
I'll end by saying that the thumbnail says my thought about the boom and the title says a pro is reacting to it. I did what I promised. It wasn't a true review.
I have ordered another inexpensive boom and will be taking your suggestion and comparing it to two pro booms that are internally coiled. At that point I'll show a few tricks for how to get better results out of the other cheap boom. For that idea, I thank you.
He's a pro audio guy and if he thinks something is junk, I want to hear it so I don't make a mistake and buy it.
I ended with suggestions of alternatives. He did make some good suggestions I'll integrate into a future video.
That made what has been a trying day a hell of a lot better, I needed a laugh 😂 Cheers 👍
Glad to amuse. Thanks for watching
Allen hates unboxing videos and does an unboxing lol. Now to watch the entire video
🤣👍
More like a box opening
Nice cylindrical heat sink which will remove the heat from your hands and make a racket at the same time! Who put you up to this review? 🙃Good job!
Who did? I did this to myself. Masochistic, I know.
@@SoundSpeeds masochistic, indeed!
I'll send it to you, if you want to review it next.
@@SoundSpeeds Please don't. 😃
LOL
Man, there are vicious takedowns but you took this to a whole new level (also hilarious!). You saved me from buying a Neewer boom pole, ended up going with a shorter Rode instead. BTW we have the same studio headphones. I'm glad they have your seal of approval!
I really like them in my studio. When booning I use 7506s. Any Rode boom will be better than the Neewer.
I work in live sports from time to time and I can tell you from personal experience, a 416 ziptied to a camera by the windscreen makes less handling noise than that piece of trash, lol.
A 416 inside the mouth of a running dog makes less noise.
What boom pole would you recommend? I'm currently using a K-tek 110 CCR but was looking into a longer carbon fiber k-tek one. Is there a better brand you prefer?
K-Tek makes wonderful booms and if you already like your K-Tek, consider buying another, longer one. They also have the Mighty Boom/Klassic Pro to consider now too.
I use angling landing net poles with cheap thread reducer’s that step down to 1/4” threads. Available from 2 to 5 metres , carbon fibre for less than £20
Not for booming if you step down to 1/4-20.
yeah totally agree here. The cable and plastic knocking around, the weight, the hard to turn (and cheap) collars... it's a nightmare. I modded a boom arm/mic stand that's not adjustable, but at least it's not as loud. Only use on a stand, bad for handling, which is kinda the whole point
Exactly.
I have some Bongo Ties, and love them. I turned a videographer onto them.
I’ve not been able to find Elasti-bands, though I’ve made my own following your example here.
Where do you get Elasti-bands?
Right here: lastybands.com
What microphone are you using
A prototype I can't talk about yet.
About half the things I've ordered from neewer this year, I've returned. The remaining items... one is dysfunctional but cheap, one seems simple and seems to work, and the other two, well, so far so good. Surprisingly, the only things that seem to work are their video lights. They sent me a crooked tripod once. I assume the lights are outsourced somewhere different from usual
I have some of their lights too. Probably the best thing they make.
Great tips on how set the mic on the Lyre system at 10:50. Thanks Allen
There's different school of thought on it. That's mine and it's always worked flawlessly for me. Thanks for watching.
Prepare to become the newest Neewer brand ambassador. 😂 Fantastic video!
I'll be sharing my opinions on Amazon soon.
For a future video: what boom pool would you recommend for those with say a $200 or $300 budget? And there are no audio stores near me to get good used gear. B&H is my usual go-to store but I have to get it delivered.
Actually... eBay in that price range.
honked loudly of laughter at the squeal 😂 WHAT A REVIEW!
Caught me off guard.
The shock mount I got for my boom pole I had the big whole like that adapter you showed for the Mike Stan clip thing I got a cheap boom pole From guitar Center and the newer one actually it looks better than the one I got at least it has its own cable at the top and go through the pool I have to wrap it around my pole God That didn’t sound right lol
Probably quieter than the Neewer though
Alternative title "Allen attempts to tame a wild boom gone VIOLENT"
Allen fights inner rage from Neewer boom pole. :-)
@@SoundSpeeds way better than mine. Here is another "Chef Allen trashes a poorly made boom". I know lack the umph but I can imagine how you would call the team behind this unholy boom a dumb sandwich
This is the first boom I've reviewed that was a waste of substance.
The fact that this scratches more than my 15+ year old aluminum tripod
I know! I don't know what was wrong with this thing but it wasn't good.
Would you recommend budget boom poles for stationary interview setups where the boompole will be fixed to a c-stand...perhaps a budget boom pole with a high quality external XLR cable rather than the "budget" internal wiring?
For a sit down interview, it should be fine
Great video Alan!
Thank you. :-) Thanks for watching.
I love your reaction to it 😂
It was deserved. Thanks for watching
Alternate Title: "Pro Boom Operator Slowly Dies Inside For 27 Minutes Straight"
But seriously, this makes me feel so much better about my cheapo Andoer pole. It's only $30 more than the Neewer, but it's carbon fiber with metal joints, locks and unlocks easily and reliably, and gives you the option to retrofit with a proper cable.
LOL. That'll be the sequel. Thanks for watching.
Revenge of the Booooom 6:30.
Boom: call me cheap,again… I will more than just bite your hand off… I will boomshakalaka….
I think the sliding friction sound would be great when filming a DJ… just scratch along…
I actually found this video helpful.
Excellent. Thanks for watching. Neewer discontinued this boom shortly after this review.
@@SoundSpeeds RIP
Thank you for this!✊🏾
Sure thing. Thank you for watching.
I found something positive about it… Do you know that person who wants to feel involved but you don't really want them involved… This would be the perfect bumper to give them that you're not worried about breaking and then you can slap some sort of dummy cheap Chinese microphone on the end and they can feel like they're doing something.
If that's your style, sure. I'm more of the kind of person that would hand someone the real thing and make the aware of the skill behind it. This boom is no longer being sold on Amazon as of last month.
I use the airo ktek :) I think it’s a good beginner pole
It's very good especially at the price.
I wonder how many of these are bought to hold Yetis for location shooting.
You're making me sick to my stomach.
@@SoundSpeeds You know it's true...
😓
All of them 😆🤪🤯
This was entertaining! 😂
$60 well spent then.
You should review the K-tek airo boompole when you get the chance.
Maybe.
13:00 how big is that room!
About 12 feet wide on the short dimension but I was also taking it out diagonally.
This was super entertaining haha!
Do you recommend the K-Tec 110CCR? Looking to upgrade my kit and it seems like a good option for me. Thank you!
I'm a big advocate for trying as many booms as you can and picking the one that works best for you. The K110CCR is a solid boom though!
@@SoundSpeeds Sounds good, that's solid advice. Thank you!
Thank you. :-)
I would love to see and hear a comparison with another pro boompole.
The next time I do one of these, I'll do that.
Can you take out the internal cable?
You can but it requires cutting and pulling it out.
That face at 4:37!
I guess what can anyone really expect from a $60 boom?
I did want to ask you what your recommendation would be for a boom pole that I will be using mainly for static handling on a boom pole holder? Something of good quality that's reasonably priced for that quality (I'll let you decide how much "reasonably price" should be)?
Thai depends. What is your budget? K-Tek makes some solid inexpensive booms that would serve you well. Even used ones would likely do well.
@@SoundSpeeds That's kind of why I mentiont that I'll let you determine "Reasonably Priced" - meaning that while I would like to buy a great boom for $60, really where should I set my pricing expectations for a quality boom - but really it's for static handling on a boom holder for UA-cam videos - either solo in studio or perhaps to do two person interviews with minimal handling.
I'd honestly invest a couple hundred bucks and get a K-Tek Airo or Avalon if Trew's consignment booms aren't in your price range. Quality booms hold their value extremely well and are worth the investment.
@@SoundSpeeds Great. Thanks for the advice. I will move in that direction! I was just looking at Trew's used booms. Several were $500 and one was $375. Just means I gotta save more.
A cheap boom won't hold it's value, resell well or even work well but a good, inexpensive boom is worth it.
I buy neewer lights they work great
Me too. Shhhh.
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I could write a book here. Bongo tie: Golfers tee? It looks like a bongo! Do you have a heartbeat? : 0 "OH YOU SUCK!" "I AM SO G&%dam& Pi$$ OFF RIGHT NOW (Cartman) I was waiting for the low cost alternative and you delivered! Paint me happy! Thanks Allen
Thanks Jon.
I needed that laugh!! As an aside, could that be a prototype Deity Unimic in the test...... ?
I have no idea what you're talking about. 😳
@@SoundSpeeds Next video idea: Pranking my Sound Mixer on set with a Newer boom pole and Rode NTG4 mic. If you replaced your high end equipment with that combo, I’m sure the mixer’s reaction would be hilarious. I’m kidding, of course, about you actually doing that hehe.
Now... I may prank a fill in boom op by putting the Neewer in my caddy and make them think I use it. Hmmmm...
@@SoundSpeeds That’s even better! I LOVE the idea!!
Someone else might not so much but... I won't be there to hear the complaints.
Well that one's off my wishlist and it's not even $60 anymore so it's worth going up priced tear to at least 100.
If looking for an entry level boom, look for the K-Tek Airo. Best bang for the buck.
lol The faces you made are priceless
I couldn't help it dude. I think I went thru all stages of... something during that video.
@@SoundSpeeds LOL
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Would you ever want to review Rode’s boom poles?
I'm not against it if they wanted to send me one.
@@SoundSpeeds sadly I think its much of the same, I’ve got one as I’m just starting to boom.
Foam/rubber noisy grip, and the collars wear out and take many turns to lock.
My mixer has definitely noted the handling noise at times.
Saving up for an ambient now!
Consider a used boom from Trew Audio's used section. Booms maintained and sold by pros at a discount
Thanks@@SoundSpeeds, I’ll keep an eye on their page 😉
Good luck.
Next up, a surgeon reviews the Neewer scalpel! (Oh god, it's a plastic cafeteria knife!)
LOL! Yeah, probably. But it looks just like a real scalpel.
The 160$ k-tek i bought puts out the same rattling full extended. Broom handle with mogami xlr gaff taped to it would be better. :c
Ugh... doubt it. It probably needs to be tweaked a bit.
@@SoundSpeeds i attached the 416 to 7' of conduit pvc. with mogami xlr gaffed to the side. it worked perfect for what it was! ;D
Hey, as long as it worked and was quiet... Win!
I think I could hear your heartbeat there
Likely
0:45 oh shucks that wasn't a very good reaction to the scissors then again this isn't a horror film so I guess there's no blood and it's fair. 🤣
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I'd say if you have to use that pole God forbid. Let the foam on because that aluminum pole gets so cold or really hot on extreme temperatures.
I personally removed the internal wiring & cut the wire up top and just connect to mic externally because that internal mic cable is super shit.
I would like to someday upgrade because that boom pole is so heavy.
I appreciate the used boom poles website I will check it out. Thanks.
There had to be something wrong with this boom. Shortly after this video, they discontinued this boom pole and replaced it with the NW-7000; a boom with the same model number as one of their microphones.
@@SoundSpeeds Yeah I think I got the nw 7000. It was around $80. It's still atrocious and still bites hands haha.
Not surprised. There are a few newcomers I'm going to be looking at in the upcoming weeks that I hope to evaluate. Stay tuned.
@@SoundSpeeds For sure, in this channel I've had just some genuine sound guy fun haha.
I love to hear that. Thanks for stopping by.
The compression ring on mine fill into the pole and now it's useless.
I didn't even have them on mine. Poorly made pole all around
Not quite as good as a VDB, but almost :p
Imagine extending mid take with this.
To be fair I had a cheap "Milliboo" pole (80 euros from china) that was not too bad before it broke (to little overlap when extended, just as with this pole) and I got Kortwich and VDB poles. I sometimes miss the cheap ass foam at the handle, it did help with eliminating transfer noise somewhat.
VDB makes good poles and I'm hoping they'll send me one to review sometime. I'd love to review one from each of the premium pole manuafacturers.
This pretty much my exact feelings when I unboxed my Rode boom pole. It...sucks... the locking mechanisms have no fucking logic and the noise is horrible. Luckily, the only thing and what I used it for is mount to to a holder for an overhead mic in talking head videos.
Lower priced booms cut a lot of corners but can still be used. It just can't be expected to be a premium boom.
@@SoundSpeeds Indeed!
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What a gear snob. Is a $600 boom pole better than a $60 boom pole? I hope so. Maybe a side by side comparison would be educational.
But noise while adjusting pole length is irrelevant because you don't adjust the pole length in the middle of a take. Multiple twists of the collars? Inconvenient but again not impacting audio performance. Cable noise at the head? How does your $600 boom pole react to the same test? As to using a painters pole with an XLR cable I am sure the heavier XLR cable will transmit more noise to the mic. As to the XLR connector at the butt end, there are right angle XLR cables to solve this problem. The only real problem I saw was the plastic rather than rubber sleeves in the collars.
Gear snob? You could say that... or you could say that this is just a piece of crap. Watch my other two reviews of boom poles in this playlist if you want more info on premium products: ua-cam.com/play/PLpPR2HcQu7YI6KpmB1x959F5RZ4TX2G46.html
Side by side comparison? Not going to happen because, as you pointed out, there are a lot of differences between a $60 and a $600 boom pole and if I compared them, it would give zero hope as to more inexpensive options. I did reference used professional booms at the end of the video and those are made much better for only a bit more. You can see me often using boom poles in my videos (including my Ambient QP-5150 review) and hear the difference. There will be more boom pole reviews in time. I'm currently testing another for a review and have another lined up after that.
The industry standard amount of turns to lock and unlock a boom is 1/4 turn, not 1 full turn with a lot of torque. Again, watch my Ambient or RRS boom pole review to see better knuckles locking. As for adjusting the pole length during a take, yeah, we have to adjust in the middle of a take. I didn't today on set but I did yesterday for two different setups. In other videos on my channel you hear me extend and retract a premium boom at times. You're right though... I may do a dedicated video explaining premium boom performance.
As for the painter's pole with good XLR... pros used to use similar products before there were as many commercial booms on the market. If I switched out the cable in the Neewer boom, it would help a lot. Rubbing the Neewer cable made a lot of noise but rubbing my cable transferred nothing.
You are correct about the right angle at the bottom of the boom too. As I mentioned my cable didn't do that and many entry level people don't know right angle connectors are available. Rubber isn't necessary on knuckles/locks. Those plastic ones are terrible.
Did you miss the whole concept that these are the tools of the man's trade? Did you actually pay attention to the review. Ever worked 12 hours on a professional set with one of these? But yeah, I'm sure you are the expert here, and none of his concerns have any merit with regard to actually getting the job done with one of these. You are comedy gold, I'll tell ya that.
@@SoundSpeeds Someone has too much Neewer stock in his portfolio. Oh my god, I just said the man has a portfolio... I KILL me!
I'm not angry at him. He did make a couple of good points even though I think many of the people that buy this boom wouldn't know the info he has as a prerequisite.
gear snob? So you're an audio pro then? What feature films have you worked on? He's a pro and is entitled to use whatever gear he wants. And his videos are packed with very useful info. You're keen to criticise others, have you uploaded any audio review videos?
Does this guy EVER leave his little box to EXTEND these boom poles and see how they work, I dunno, AS A BOOM POLE???
Yes, for real boom poles. This crappy boom pole was discontinued within two weeks of this video.
@@SoundSpeeds I've seen several reviews of boom poles on this channel and not one has been extended. What gives?
You're not looking correctly.
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Use it as a cherry picker or a whacking stick for people who get too close for social distancing :^)
Anyways, this is perfect in information and presentation. It means a lot for the aspiring boom ops like me.
Thank you. Check out my other boom pole reviews too (2 done so far).
I bet you know boom poles I wonder if that’s better than being a poll inspector like I was during the election lol 😂 Oh my God I’m a 43-year-old child
You're not alone
@@SoundSpeeds loved the video by the way Just for some reason I hear the word pole and I start laughing
I hear it everyday so I'm immune
Its better than using a normal microphone stand as boompool😑
A mic stand would be quieter.
Please don't review anymore Neewer products, I don't want to see you die. 🙁
LOL. Thank you for your concern.
Unfortunate. Just seems "cheap". Low budget and cheap are not the same. Better off with good used gear.
Agree 100%
😂😂😂 Hate hate relationship 🤣
Pretty much
What’s a good boom pole to start with. I have a shure SM 89.
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Professional boom operator reviews cheap boom pole. Is ANYONE surprised how this will go. UA-cam can be a review wasteland.
I tried to make it educational
@@SoundSpeeds you failed at that. If you wanted it to be educational you would have pointed out solutions, not just problems. I want 10 minutes of my life back.
It was educational. I said there was nothing redeeming about it so you know to avoid it. Watch my LyxPro review. That pole was the same price and didn't suck at all levels.
@@SoundSpeeds most people interested in buying this pole are not going to be using it for movies. Would this pole be find for someone that will never have a boom pole operator and will just have it on a C stand boom'ed over the talent for talking head style interviews?
In that capacity, yes. It's called a boom pole so I evaluated it from a boom op perspective. If you have $60 to spend, I'd get the LyxPro though
im going to look at another review. Without even veiwing the vi I can tell you are biased lol. You pretty much sold the feeling that your not going to like it before you even open the box.
I was skeptical, certainly, because I'm familiar with the brand. I was very honest in my assessment though and I didn't fake any of my tests. I did showcase another $60 Amazon boom on Thursday and it was better. Much better.
This obviously is not a pro boom pole, and certainly wasn’t designed for your occupation. It’s clearly made for beginner/solo content creators, and will probably sit in a boom pole holder 101% of the time. So this provides literally zero value to the intended customer base.
“You hear that? I’m touching the cable, that’s interference noise-“ ain’t nobody just stroking the cable or even touching *that* dang pole while recording, this is absurd 😂 You should be the Before guy in infomercials LOL
There are better booms on the market than this one. A week after my review, they stopped selling it and replaced it with a far better one. Without people like me calling them out for making crap, they won't make better products.
@@SoundSpeeds sure, it’s a cheap-o boom pole. Absolutely. But that’s exactly what *that* customer wants. The only people buying this, are inexperienced first-timers. So for the most part, we’re just excited to have a “real” boom pole. Mine doesn’t even have an internal cable, but it just sits there on a holder, no one’s ever even touching it.
Don’t get me wrong: I’d LOVE a $500 boom pole with a Rycote pistol grip at the end for no reason, just like all the cool kids. But I can’t justify that kind of expense as an amateur. So these are the concessions we (knowingly) make.
@@SoundSpeeds love your stuff, this one was just kinda silly to watch no hate 😅
Fair enough but I didn't trash the Lyx Pro of the same price because it is a good buy for the money.
Although you are a "Pro" this seems to be the only cheap option that is Not as bad as you make it out to be. Considering the next Budget upgrade Boom Pole is 3-4 times the price. I actually am thankful for brands like this for offering us cheaper versions until we get good paying gigs and can afford something "better". I have searched videos and amazon and this is the Only budget option that has pretty decent reviews and has a built in cable. Your video was humorous, but almost snobbish at the same time...
I can see that. Fair enough. I would like to point out that brands like K-Tek, which makes some of the best boom poles used by pros, makes some at $100 that are far better from build to support. I greatly recommend something like the K-Tek Airo
Are you a production sound mixer or boom operator by profession?? This question is to @ekphotography
It's poo poo.
Jurassic amounts
@@SoundSpeeds "An unlimited amount."
-- Johnny Rotten, 1977
Pretty much