While Midjourney certainly has some interesting features, I find myself gravitating towards Blue Willow more and more. The fact that it's completely free definitely helps!
Interesting. I was thinking about printing straight away when I found out about midjouney etc. What aspect ratio are you generating in? To print A3 (11-3/4 x 16-1/2 in) the aspect ratio would be 1:1.4142. Not sure if midjouney does that, so would you just crop out an image to achieve those print dimensions?
What I don't understand is what to do next after having the image upscaled. How can I offer it in 5 different sizes like most Etsy shops do? How do I make or know the correct resolutions?
@@connieblackmon3932 you can use GIMP (it's free), there you can adjust resolution and scale, you can adjust scale in pixels, inches, or cm, using the menu Image/Scale image
You do a very good job, keep it up. One question please, I have not seen how you prepare the color. Do you work with the adobe rgb space and then when exporting you pass it to cmyk? Or do you directly work the file with the cmyk space? midjourney images if viewed with cmyk, change a bit, especially more magenta. Thank you.
@@EndikaZulaika-xn4bs I will say I’ve been sending my files to print with RGB colors (printful) and it seems okay and the colors are pretty vibrant so I think if you use an online print on demand place then RGB is good
@@maloneandsloan2137 Thanks for answering, if you are working with dropshipping companies like printful for example, I suppose that their printers will be prepared for the average user who sends a file to print without making changes in the color space. My doubt has more to do with the digital file itself, whether I have to make any adjustments to sell the file and that anyone can print it without losing much quality at your nearest print shop. I still don't understand why people have such a hard time answering this type of question.
I believe DPI is only relative to PPI (Pixel Per Inch) so in this case it doesn't really matter when printing, so as long as the resolution is compatible with the print size (larger resolutions will allow you to produce larger photos without sacrificing image quality unless you exceed it, and then you'll see image degradation). This is why you have to use AI scaling programs that increase the resolution.
Thank you for tackling this subject, I'm so confused by resolutions and upscaling and am struggling to get my head around it. In your video you mention that the largest file size MJ can create with beta upscale redo is 2688 x 1536, which would allow printing of an 8x12 or 11 x 14 print. However on Midjourney's site they state that the upscale is smaller: 'If you want a quality print you need 300 pieces of information in every inch. So the default 1664x1664 pixel midjourney max-upscale image would produce a good quality 5.5 in x 5.5 in print. 1664 / 300 = 5.55'. I need to print at around 8.5 x 11 so I'm not sure how produce the best result but I will see if I can figure out how to use Topaz's software.
Hi Maddie - yeah, you'll definitely need to use Topaz's upscaling software to get a print that looks acceptable when physically printing. There isn't much you can do with the imagery straight out of midjourney.
No. Waifu2x only exceeds Topaz in a couple very niche use cases that are highly subjective, and require very specific settings choices. 95% of what you generate will look better run through Topaz than through Waifu2x even if you have the perfect settings chosen on Waifu2x.
Exactly. It changes a lot of the elements of the original (the 4 images that appear after the initial prompt) and it usually makes it muddy. Instead of just U1 - U4 for upscale and V1- V4 for variations, there should be an E1 - E4 for enlarge. It sucks when you upscale the same small image over and over again and the result is never as good as the original small version. Even using the current version of MJ4, which came out after this video was uploaded, the option to simply 'enlarge' one of the original results is not anywhere to be found. At this point, I have resorted to just opening up the original 4-image result in browser, using ctrl + to zoom in the screen, then using the clipping tool to capture the image I want away from the other results. This of course results in lower quality and slight pixilation, plus the image is STILL too small for print purposes, but compared to what MJ does in it's 'upscale' , it's still a better option. Having to resort to using methods like that or expensive 3rd party programs is ridiculous, especially for what MJ charges for it's highest subscription plan. I think this is where MJ competitors like Blue Willow and Instant Art are going to outshine it. Whomever releases a built-in enlargement tool first (if they haven't already, its hard to keep track of them all) will probably rise above.
While Midjourney certainly has some interesting features, I find myself gravitating towards Blue Willow more and more. The fact that it's completely free definitely helps!
Nightcafe can generate images up to 8000x8000. I feel like the ai generator isn't as good as Mid Journey. But it can generate much larger images!
That's amazing! Hopefully their renders will get better and make that resolution worth it!
Thanks for succinct, clear, helpful video!
Seconded!!
Insightful, thank you for sharing.
Interesting. I was thinking about printing straight away when I found out about midjouney etc.
What aspect ratio are you generating in? To print A3 (11-3/4 x 16-1/2 in) the aspect ratio would be 1:1.4142. Not sure if midjouney does that, so would you just crop out an image to achieve those print dimensions?
Midjourney can't do decimals, but you can come close by asking for 2:3 and then crop to exact dimensions.
What I don't understand is what to do next after having the image upscaled. How can I offer it in 5 different sizes like most Etsy shops do? How do I make or know the correct resolutions?
did you find out
I will be making a video on this in the near future.
@@ggalaxylight wondering the same
@@connieblackmon3932 you can use GIMP (it's free), there you can adjust resolution and scale, you can adjust scale in pixels, inches, or cm, using the menu Image/Scale image
I somehow stumbled on this and I adore it! I want to pick your brain at Kando. :)
Yasss let's do it!
This video was a y6?ear ago. is there anything available now that produces high res for the larger sizes like the 24x36?
You do a very good job, keep it up. One question please, I have not seen how you prepare the color. Do you work with the adobe rgb space and then when exporting you pass it to cmyk? Or do you directly work the file with the cmyk space? midjourney images if viewed with cmyk, change a bit, especially more magenta. Thank you.
I was wondering the same thing and would love to know this. I’ve rendered a lot of 80s style neon shirt designs.
@@maloneandsloan2137 I have asked this simple question in several videos and no one seems to have any solid knowledge to answer it.
@@EndikaZulaika-xn4bs I will say I’ve been sending my files to print with RGB colors (printful) and it seems okay and the colors are pretty vibrant so I think if you use an online print on demand place then RGB is good
@@maloneandsloan2137 Thanks for answering, if you are working with dropshipping companies like printful for example, I suppose that their printers will be prepared for the average user who sends a file to print without making changes in the color space. My doubt has more to do with the digital file itself, whether I have to make any adjustments to sell the file and that anyone can print it without losing much quality at your nearest print shop. I still don't understand why people have such a hard time answering this type of question.
@@EndikaZulaika-xn4bs I would probably design it in CMYK then to be safe so the customer isn’t mad if the bright colors don’t pop as much.
Anyone else get weird dreams if they mess with AI software for too long before bed?
Hahaha, always!
very nice
When print its cmyk right ? How to keep the same from your laptop cause its on RGB ?
But this doesn't increase the dpi. For print, don't you need to increase the dpi from 72 to 300?
I believe DPI is only relative to PPI (Pixel Per Inch) so in this case it doesn't really matter when printing, so as long as the resolution is compatible with the print size (larger resolutions will allow you to produce larger photos without sacrificing image quality unless you exceed it, and then you'll see image degradation). This is why you have to use AI scaling programs that increase the resolution.
letsenhance does does upscale, quality boost, and dpi 300
In which units is the Chart? Is it cm, inch or something else?
It's in Inches.
@@District7DrewGeraci thx!
Thank you for tackling this subject, I'm so confused by resolutions and upscaling and am struggling to get my head around it. In your video you mention that the largest file size MJ can create with beta upscale redo is 2688 x 1536, which would allow printing of an 8x12 or 11 x 14 print. However on Midjourney's site they state that the upscale is smaller: 'If you want a quality print you need 300 pieces of information in every inch. So the default 1664x1664 pixel midjourney max-upscale image would produce a good quality 5.5 in x 5.5 in print. 1664 / 300 = 5.55'. I need to print at around 8.5 x 11 so I'm not sure how produce the best result but I will see if I can figure out how to use Topaz's software.
Hi Maddie - yeah, you'll definitely need to use Topaz's upscaling software to get a print that looks acceptable when physically printing. There isn't much you can do with the imagery straight out of midjourney.
If you are printing Save your image to CMYK
That's great advice too!
@@District7DrewGeraci save as RGB ths icc printer profiles only work with RGB!
How would we save in cmyk?
I am generating Images of up to 6451 x 9274 so now I am a bit confused. is this good enough for posters?
Yes, you can make a poster if the resolution is above 7000px. (12k would be optimal for the best print rendition though).
@@District7DrewGeraci can you print on canvas in that resolution?
@@landlordcroatia8541 you could, as long as the pixel density is larger than the canvas you want to print it shouldn't be a problem.
does AI Midjouney give you 6451 x 9274 images ???
May I ask what type of printer do you use to print your AI photos?
I use the Epson P600, it's fantastic.
@@District7DrewGeraci thank you
Is that the sure color ink jet? Sorry I'm new. 😁
@@xapes1 The P600 is a bit older, it's from 2017 I believe. The P700 is the newest model (around $750-800) but I can't speak to the other models.
Thank you. I'll start there.
Good video. That means I can only print up to 8x12 with Beta upscale redo without using any ai enhancer correct?
Yeah, that's probably the max side you could print (but you'll still see some artifacting in the actual print too, but it won't be too bad).
What do you guys think of Waifux2? Does it stack well against topaz?
No. Waifu2x only exceeds Topaz in a couple very niche use cases that are highly subjective, and require very specific settings choices. 95% of what you generate will look better run through Topaz than through Waifu2x even if you have the perfect settings chosen on Waifu2x.
Can I sign this art? If so, how do I do it?
Use photoshop.
Are you talking about inches?
Yes
thx
I find that Mid journey ruins many of the images when up scaling.
same
Exactly. It changes a lot of the elements of the original (the 4 images that appear after the initial prompt) and it usually makes it muddy. Instead of just U1 - U4 for upscale and V1- V4 for variations, there should be an E1 - E4 for enlarge. It sucks when you upscale the same small image over and over again and the result is never as good as the original small version. Even using the current version of MJ4, which came out after this video was uploaded, the option to simply 'enlarge' one of the original results is not anywhere to be found. At this point, I have resorted to just opening up the original 4-image result in browser, using ctrl + to zoom in the screen, then using the clipping tool to capture the image I want away from the other results. This of course results in lower quality and slight pixilation, plus the image is STILL too small for print purposes, but compared to what MJ does in it's 'upscale' , it's still a better option. Having to resort to using methods like that or expensive 3rd party programs is ridiculous, especially for what MJ charges for it's highest subscription plan. I think this is where MJ competitors like Blue Willow and Instant Art are going to outshine it. Whomever releases a built-in enlargement tool first (if they haven't already, its hard to keep track of them all) will probably rise above.
Agreed they seem to come out worse . I end up upscaling the original in a different app
Yep. Midjourney creates a different, random version of the image with every evolution. Annoying for sure.