Bad Gear - Korg Poly-800 - 80s Throwback Synth

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    Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Korg Poly-800. Is this often frowned-upon keyboard the ultimate 80s throwback synth?

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  • @Individual_two
    @Individual_two 3 роки тому +105

    I had one of these back in its glory days of the '80's and absolutely loved it. Armed with my Tascam Porta Studio, the Poly 800 provided the atmosphere and my beloved, MiniMoog did the leads and bass. I had a blast! I bet many '80's bedroom producers started with this synth.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +15

      Yeah, it made (somewhat) polyphonic synthesis affordable for the masses

    • @doktorhulk
      @doktorhulk Рік тому

      even more ended with that synth ;-)

    • @woiowoiow190
      @woiowoiow190 Рік тому +1

      Match made in heaven. I bought the Porta studio as to learn about multitracking and I've made so much with so little. I love it.

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar Місяць тому

      Wish I d got this to eat better at Uni

  • @RobFlaxMusic
    @RobFlaxMusic 3 роки тому +67

    Holy crap “$19.95 plus shipping” hit me so hard in the feels

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +5

      Yeah, we're born to feel!

    • @charislinos
      @charislinos 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz find me one with 29,95 plus shipping and I will take it

  • @suga4all
    @suga4all 3 роки тому +45

    3:18
    "...of course needs to be loaded with a Maj7"
    Actually plays an Amin7 😁

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +25

      Music theory has never been a strength of mine

  • @facelessproduction
    @facelessproduction 3 роки тому +44

    History: Poly-800s have been used by Orbital, Depeche Mode, Sneaker Pimps, Vangelis, Geoff Downes, Nick Rhodes (Duran Duran), Yesterdays and Jimi Tenor. The Poly-800 is an eight-voice instrument (two more than the Juno series) with 64 memory patches (half of what the Juno-106 offered) and up to 50 editable parameters! Like the Juno, the Poly-800 had one DCO per voice, although it did feature a Double mode in which the oscillators could be stacked up for a fuller sound and only four voices of polyphony. The analog filter is a 24dB/oct low-pass which is shared by all voices (the Juno has separate filter chips for each voice). There's also a stereo chorus effect.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +9

      ...aaaaaand JMJ!!!

    • @Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
      @Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 3 роки тому +2

      And don't forget current greats who give a nod to the past, like Drab Majesty. They still tour with one. Bless them.

    • @adamrobinson8620
      @adamrobinson8620 2 роки тому +2

      I'm not sure what other tech differences there were, but the Juno had much richer sounds back in the day.

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar Місяць тому

      I doubt Nick Rhodes used it

    • @rjakiel73
      @rjakiel73 Місяць тому

      Do the MoogSlayer mod and filter mod and you get instantly accessible resonance and cutoff as well as adding a 12db that can be toggled between 12db and 24db liven with just a switch. You can get REALLY cool sh*t with the upcoming Atomahawk832 mod.

  • @krytenfivetwothreep2485
    @krytenfivetwothreep2485 3 роки тому +60

    What I need in my life is a playlist of all the Bad Gear songs by themselves. This series has produced some seriously good tunes!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +18

      I usually upload longer versions on Patreon (no plug;)

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 роки тому +11

      @@AudioPilz it's hard to make electronic music when you're not plugged in. /dadjoke

    • @TheHatMusic
      @TheHatMusic 3 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz Well, that's decided then... as soon as payday comes around, I'll be signing up! Your no plug has backfired horribly :)

    • @helisoma
      @helisoma Рік тому +1

      i still think he should start a separate youtube channel just with his jams/videos 😎😁

  • @artisan002
    @artisan002 3 роки тому +18

    Heh. I still remember a high school talent show from around 1987, when a student band pulled off Rush's Tom Sawyer with one of these. Surprisingly close sounding to the original filter sweep, given the conditions.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +4

      Interesting, haven't listened to the song for ages

    • @artisan002
      @artisan002 3 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz I don't tend to seek it out, but I will listen to it from time to time. But, I always end up thinking about that school performance, just because they got so much closer than I could have possibly expected.

  • @PakaTheDog
    @PakaTheDog 2 роки тому +13

    Korg Poly 800, a Yamaha DX9 and later an Ensoniq Mirage. Those were my keys back in 1986. They complimented each other nicely. Memories...😎

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Great 80s setup!!! You must have been the coolest person around!!!

  • @davidhayes8883
    @davidhayes8883 3 роки тому +58

    Without this piece of 'bad gear' we would not have the sound of Techno! Listen to Juan Atkins and the Belleville Three. Keep up the good work you are edutaining a whole generation who have only grown up 'in the box'.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +5

      Thank you!!!

    • @ringtangting
      @ringtangting 3 роки тому +2

      Any albums or tracks where the Poly800 can be heard that you would recommend?

    • @davidhayes8883
      @davidhayes8883 3 роки тому +4

      @@ringtangting Cybotron - Clear

    • @ringtangting
      @ringtangting 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidhayes8883 Huh, never realized or thought about an poly800 being used in that one. Will have to give it a spin to hear what you mean. I know the 800 has been used for techno/electro stuff, but I never heard it as such.

    • @NTRSN-Archive
      @NTRSN-Archive 3 роки тому +3

      another who Atkins used is the Korg 707 .

  • @SendyTheEndless
    @SendyTheEndless 3 роки тому +24

    I always liked the sound of those steppy sawtooths made from phase-aligned square harmonics. Gives a slight fuzzy quality to them!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Agreed! Very unique sound!

  • @boingpoumtchak
    @boingpoumtchak 3 роки тому +8

    My first synth 🥲 An uncle lent it to me for 2 months. 20 years ago exactly. Will never forget it 😍

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Why did you give it back? ;)

    • @boingpoumtchak
      @boingpoumtchak 3 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz i had no choice 😄. But few years ago i bought the « desktop version » of it, which has some extras (but don’t remember which ones). Unfortunately the mojo was gone, not so impressed any more and sold it pretty fast 🙂. If i remember well, you can add a mod (hawk?) to be able to tweak the parameters from a midi box or computer (with a maxforlive or ctrlr interface for example). But i had no energy to do it due to its limited sound…

  • @micahmachines
    @micahmachines 3 роки тому +12

    That polyrhthmic sequence section was tight. You've just inspired me to get my soldering iron out again

  • @daionsavage
    @daionsavage 3 роки тому +22

    Ah, the memories. I still have mine in the wardrobe. Won’t sell it to anyone out of fear that my karma rating will drop to hell!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +8

      Maybe make some music with it? ;)

    • @scottcupp8129
      @scottcupp8129 3 роки тому +1

      Nice man! I still have a mint Poly 61 sitting on its own stand in my studio room at home. I use it quite a bit actually. I have a Poly 6 too. I'd like to get a Poly 800 though. Also want to get another DW8000

    • @Aetila
      @Aetila 3 роки тому +3

      @@AudioPilz
      It's more rewarding to COLLECT synths and watch them. :-)

    • @sebp400
      @sebp400 3 роки тому +1

      I saw ''karma'' and I thought you were talking about the Korg Karma..

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 3 роки тому +8

    I like that they leaned into the fact that they're using a 7 segment display, and made their legends in the same "font"

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      I think that stuff was pretty hip back then

    • @-VCO-
      @-VCO- 3 роки тому +4

      7-segment displays looked pretty "futuristic" back then. Nobody seemed to realize that the the future would be in HD.

  • @matthewgaines10
    @matthewgaines10 3 роки тому +4

    Another high quality Bad Gear. You made it sound good. Thanks for doing the work.

  • @chriswareham
    @chriswareham 3 роки тому +4

    I had the rarer version in classy "turd brown" case and reversed key colours. It's long gone, but I came across the same Korg branded patch tape that you showed when I was in my attic a few weeks ago. I recall having great fun with my Poly 800 combined with an Roland Alpha Juno, Roland MC-202 and Korg KPR-77 drum machine, sequenced or synced from a Roland MC-300. Bizarre to think that with the exception of the MC-300 they're all highly desirable bits of kit now!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Yeah, the MC-300 is indeed fear-inducing

    • @chriswareham
      @chriswareham 3 роки тому +3

      @@AudioPilz The beige MC series (that a drummer once confused with a fax machine - true story 😯) were actually quite easy to use. Linear rather than pattern based though. Now the Yamaha QX1, as recently seen on Espen Kraft's channel, that's the one to fear!

  • @Pheonix0114
    @Pheonix0114 3 роки тому +3

    Your ending jam names just keep getting better!

  • @GL88888
    @GL88888 2 роки тому +3

    I want one now! Loved that 80’s synthwave vibe! Brilliant review…. And the video editing is so good!

  • @gemfire.mp3
    @gemfire.mp3 3 роки тому +7

    I bought my Poly 800 mk II a few months ago and can't get enough of that 80's cheese ❤

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Cheese for days!!!

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 роки тому

      Which flavour of cheese though? Limburger or havarti? If it's the former, that's pretty damn cheesy. If it's the latter it's only mildly so.

  • @djlocodoc
    @djlocodoc 3 роки тому +2

    It's not Friday until Bad gear videos hit my feed. Love those genres... perfection

  • @LuckyFlesh
    @LuckyFlesh 3 роки тому +8

    Excellent video.
    This was my very first synth, so I absolutely loved it. Even with it's limitations, warts and all.. it was still a "real" synthesizer.
    I also think some folks today judge the sound more harshly because they just hear the machine alone, not the way many of us actually used it (ran through any and every cheap guitar effects pedal we could scrounge up).

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Yeah, people were processing the hell out of these things back then

  • @marcoabyss
    @marcoabyss 3 роки тому +19

    this synth is as old as me. i'm starting to feel vintage :D
    PS $19.99 Plus Shipping Retro Kitsch Vienna Cloud Rap Instrumental 80s Trap Ballad is exactly the vaporwave spin-off the world needs

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +3

      Super vintage! I'm even older;)

    • @marcoabyss
      @marcoabyss 3 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz i like to think of as as becoming classics in our own rights :)

    • @Magnus_Loov
      @Magnus_Loov 3 роки тому +1

      Not that old. I actually bought one used in 1990. For about $100 (800 Swedish Crowns, SEK)i got the Korg Mono/Poly AND the Poly-800 from a friend who thought they were more or less doorstops that nobody would buy... Of course I sold them a year or so later(Looking at the prices for the Mono/Poly now with great regret).

  • @brucebartlett9989
    @brucebartlett9989 3 роки тому +144

    When I started reading about people wanting the Poly-800's "warm, fat sound", that's when I realized the vintage synth craze had reached total insanity. This was my first synth and it was a huge disappointment. No top end, no bottom end, sluggish stepped envelopes, thin plasticy oscillators, and of course paraphonic. Just horrible. On the plus side, every synth I got after this seemed amazing in comparison.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +32

      Yeah, I feel the same about many people's analog mixing consoles;)

    • @DavideCerriGA
      @DavideCerriGA 3 роки тому +17

      It makes an ok elicopter sound.

    • @GK-op4oc
      @GK-op4oc 3 роки тому +25

      Nah, it wasn't that bad. The Poly800 was one of my first synths, and no, it wasn't as bad as you write. For the low price, it was a collection accessible, entry-level features at a low price in the early days of programmable synths with all of the parameters listed in the panel. I would never buy it as a vintage synth any more than people would buy an iPhone1. But they had their place in time.

    • @nazliuz
      @nazliuz 3 роки тому +1

      🤣

    • @awkwardtom
      @awkwardtom 3 роки тому +3

      ha ha good point some times you need to have experienced the crap to appreciate something decent >learning curve

  • @r5tony67
    @r5tony67 3 роки тому +1

    You have mastered your video format! It amazes me every time!

  • @freddegeus5484
    @freddegeus5484 3 роки тому +1

    Your videos bring me great joy!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Thank you! Happy to hear that!

  • @profpep
    @profpep 3 роки тому +4

    The ace mod for this is the Hawk-800. Rewritten firmware, fixes the MIDI, more patch storage without a battery, and upgrades the sequencer . Put one in the desktop version for a friend last year. Made a big difference.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Yeah, only heard good things about that one

    • @nictrax
      @nictrax Рік тому

      How easy is it to install? I have the EX-800

  • @dustincassidy
    @dustincassidy 3 роки тому +22

    Yes dude! I’ve got one of these. There is no other synth as perfectly “janky” or “bad” as this one. Awesome filter too!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +6

      "Janky" hits the nail on the head!

    • @dustincassidy
      @dustincassidy 3 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz yeah that’s the first word that comes to mind for this thing. Great for low production cold wave type music too.

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif 3 роки тому +2

    Extra juicy episode this week. Got some very distinctive sounds there. Video editing off the charts as usual. 🙌🏼

  • @JoeWisniewski
    @JoeWisniewski 2 роки тому +1

    Love the editing in these!

  • @janne-seta
    @janne-seta 3 роки тому +28

    My Ableton still keeps crashing. They say consistency is a good thing, but I'm not so sure in this case

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      I have no idea what happened...

    • @scottcupp8129
      @scottcupp8129 3 роки тому +2

      I stick with Cubase. I am at Cubase 11 Pro now

    • @scottcupp8129
      @scottcupp8129 3 роки тому +1

      However, I recorded some amazing stuff with ableton.

  • @Yuzuki1337
    @Yuzuki1337 3 роки тому +22

    Another Friday, another Bad Gear episode!
    Your bookshelf seems off, did you sort it or something? :o
    Edit: Holy moly this thing sounds great in your jams! Love the funky bassline of the first one!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks! Bookshelf should be in top shape;)

  • @respectfulremastersbymetal8336
    @respectfulremastersbymetal8336 2 роки тому

    Been watching a bunch of your vids lately and I'm consistently impressed by the tracks you make to demo the synths. But, for whatever reason, the ones in this video really jammed hard for me. So good!

  • @georgewilson2865
    @georgewilson2865 3 роки тому +1

    Love your videos!!! Your synth of humor is fantastic.

  • @raistaparta
    @raistaparta 3 роки тому +7

    Quick tip for playing monophonic bass sounds with the Poly-800: use the chord mode, set it to a single note instead of a chord, set envelope to retrigger.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Interesting technique!

    • @raistaparta
      @raistaparta 3 роки тому +2

      @@AudioPilz used it for years playing a Poly-800 as bass keys in a band. I found that it gave the basses a lot more punch, somehow resetting the waves starting point. Otherwise I'd often lose some of the low end due to phase issues between oscillators.

  • @danieklerr
    @danieklerr 3 роки тому +4

    I've owned a dozen or so Poly 800's (and Mk2's and EX800's) over the decades, most of which were picked up for around $200 USD. Every single time I've sold one, I've regretted it within a week. It's an easy go-to for cheesy brass and thin strings, can be thickened up for a decent synth bass and has a brilliant chorus. It's hard for me to fathom the prices these are going for now, but I understand why. Great video, as always!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Thanks! The chorus is indeed great!

  • @Old_Man_Jay
    @Old_Man_Jay 3 роки тому +2

    Dood, that minimalist beat you made half way into the video was fire! Kinda had an FM synth/Mega drive sound to it. Felt like it could be an awesome track to an amazing game. I seriously replayed that part of the video about 10 times! You got mad slilllz!

  • @Justindl26
    @Justindl26 3 роки тому +1

    I look forward to these every Friday! Big up man! Keep up the good work 🙂

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @Justindl26
      @Justindl26 3 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz thank you mate! I was just using software but got so bored. Watched a video of a chap called Pete cannon who is using old Amiga s and Ataris and vintage hardware. Both him and yourself have inspired me. A maxed out credit card and a heap of vintage synths later and a moaning Mrs. Have you ever seen any of his stuff on here? He did a great sound on sound interview

    • @Justindl26
      @Justindl26 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/IDn7ZDcx9w0/v-deo.html

  • @tannerin
    @tannerin 3 роки тому +11

    would love to see casio’s cz-101 featured on here, it’s the kind of chintzy budget synth people will probably never come around on but it really sounds like nothing else

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks for the suggestion! Prices for these have already reached the DANGER ZONE!!!

    • @liudas5377
      @liudas5377 3 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz Holy smokes! Just checked eBay. Wow!! I have one.

    • @Gainn
      @Gainn 3 роки тому

      Just picked up a (95% working but cosmetically trashed) CZ-101 and an abused Ensoniq SQ 80 (someone *painted* the damn thing neon green) so I can do some refurbs..
      Even in a state that looks like Hulk used them as toothpicks people still want a pile of cash.

    • @oldschoolchartist
      @oldschoolchartist 2 роки тому

      The CZ-101 had a big brother with the same engine. I had BOTH of them at one time. What a strange little bird the CZ was. Sadly, I blew mine up with a reversed polarity power supply and that was the end of it. Those strange FM tones were like nothing any other synth was producing at the time... as I recall. I used to layer those high 'buzzy' sounds in an octave or two above a richer and fatter Roland patch. Made for some very cool layered sounds.

  • @Alleroc
    @Alleroc 3 роки тому +3

    I've always loved the way that organ styled oscillators sound. One day when I get around to building out a hardware synth, that's the style I will be going for. I made one a few years back in puredata, and I still use it to this day.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, totally refreshing!

  • @randomaztec2208
    @randomaztec2208 3 роки тому +1

    Content just getting better and better

  • @dyecaster9341
    @dyecaster9341 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for yet another great video, mate.
    👌

  • @michaelkeefer4293
    @michaelkeefer4293 3 роки тому +4

    I had a Poly-800 for a while back in the late 80s, I picked it up used for really cheap. I thought it was a pretty decent sounding synth at the time, and yes that chorus was great! Pretty straight forward and fairly easy to program, unlike the Yamaha DX7 and DX21 synths that I was used to. Great review! I look forward to your videos every Friday! Keep it up!

  • @koraykumru1295
    @koraykumru1295 2 роки тому +3

    I miss my poly 800. It had some cool sounds. The filters didn't go very fast or anything but it was super light and portable.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Yeah, I like that one too!

  • @ErikHawk
    @ErikHawk 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, you really made the Poly-800 shine! You rocked the music in this video, killer job!

  • @EannaButler
    @EannaButler 3 роки тому +1

    I'm so pleased you drew the love from this synth 👍👍
    Really opens up with mods installed. And a nice effects processor after it.

  • @strelokknoize
    @strelokknoize 3 роки тому +3

    This fella was the main reason why I became a huge fan of digital synthesizers. :D

  • @DmitryPuffin
    @DmitryPuffin 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, last jam was very similar to modern stuff called Wave, but with 80s flavour. Awesome video, as usual! 🔥

  • @yamilpicon6998
    @yamilpicon6998 Рік тому +2

    What i love about your vids it's that there are a little but awesome piece of art! :3

  • @null_state
    @null_state 3 роки тому +1

    Oh man, the jam at 6:20 just brought me back to Top Gear on the Genesis

  • @jbmcb
    @jbmcb 3 роки тому +6

    Holy crap you're covering *every* piece of gear I own. I challenge you to do a Casio CZ next (I have a 5000) though I think a lot of people actually like them.

    • @jibjamjangles
      @jibjamjangles 3 роки тому

      Absolutely love mine

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +4

      Nothing personal ;) Casio CZ will happen!

  • @OverDriveOnline7921
    @OverDriveOnline7921 Рік тому +3

    This reminded me of my old Korg DW-6000, which was probably the next one up from the Poly 800 with the DW-8000 being the top of the line. One thing I learned via a book borrowed from the college library, I discovered the DW’s oscillators and envelopes could be directly manipulated over system exclusive commands.
    Creating a MIDI mixer map in Cubase (remember those?) I made a map that could sweep the waveforms and other synth madness from the safely of my Atari ST. Sadly I don’t have the Korg anymore but that may well be a good piece of kit for people to look for if they want a little more sound flexibility.
    Another thing is the Yamaha PSS680, now with a piece of editing software (again on the Atari ST), this has some hidden editing features. The software for this can be found on the Atari Music Network pages, which many years ago I used to own and run.

  • @OldPeepaw
    @OldPeepaw 2 роки тому +1

    this is the suggested video after any Poly800 video. You've accomplished something here!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Wow, didn't know that! Nice! Thanks for posting!

  • @ThomasLoyd
    @ThomasLoyd 3 роки тому +2

    I remember looking at this particular synth back in the early 80s at one of my favorite music stores in Pirmasens when I lived in Germany! It was cool when I first saw it but I wasn't big into synths back in the day. BASS is my jam, but I am a closet-synth-nerd, which is why I enjoy this channel so much!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Thanks! I'm a bassist and former closet-synth-nerd too;)

  • @OmegaPoint042
    @OmegaPoint042 6 місяців тому +6

    This synth is on Human League - Don't You Want Me and The Eurythmics - Here Comes The Rain Again. That lead melody on the Weeknd - Blinding Lights is what a Poly 800 sounds like. I still have mine since 1983 and it still fully works like new.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the heads up!!!

    • @ymotechnopopfan
      @ymotechnopopfan 3 місяці тому +2

      Are you really sure? Because Korg Poly 800 was released in 1984 , four years after Human League's "Don't You Want me".

  • @framzoid
    @framzoid 3 роки тому +3

    I used it for some early 90's NIN / Ministry kind of things as that bass can erupt so much dirt but still shake the foundation. I still have it (and all the programming cassettes) although it sits in the closet.I had NO idea they were in vogue again.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, total comeback

  • @robertbmxpa
    @robertbmxpa 3 роки тому +1

    I feel like this synth would have looked nice next to that DDM-110. Your videos are so cool, always a welcome pick-me-up. Thanks!

  • @kyleschwake5021
    @kyleschwake5021 3 роки тому +2

    These videos you make are educational, hilarious, and full of good music. 🤙😎🤙

  • @JoshIsMakingMusic
    @JoshIsMakingMusic 3 роки тому +3

    It's pretty amazing seeing the features that nowadays are standard but used to be considered unusual in a cheaper synth. Fun jams with it, too!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Yeah, that thing was a game changer back then

    • @MichaelCoombes776
      @MichaelCoombes776 2 роки тому +1

      And then there's aftertouch which has gone in the other direction.

  •  3 роки тому +16

    Been waiting for this episode for way too long. I still don't get why this synth gets so much hate. I have wanted to get one since 2012 and two years ago I finally managed to grab one for around 70 eur. It's beat up, held together by two screws, missing few keys but sounds awesome!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      It certainly isn't the most convenient synth to use but I really like the quirky sound

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 роки тому +1

      Make sure you replace the battery since they're prone to leaking and totally screwing the circuit board from the battery acid leaking. This is a very common problem with them easily rectified with a lithium battery.

    • @Markpianist1
      @Markpianist1 3 роки тому +2

      @Zdenek Absolutely it is great! I bought one in 1985 new when I was 19! I sold it to get a korg T2. Incredibly awesome synth I should of kept it.
      I still have the T2 but its disk drive went at a point and there was no parts for it. Now the battery that holds the sounds in the bank is gone all the sounds are erased.
      Anyways, I played many iconic songs of that time with the Poly 800 in a band and loved it!!!! Enjoy.
      Maybe I will look for another one. Surprised they are still around.

    • @NullStaticVoid
      @NullStaticVoid 3 роки тому

      that is the most anyone should pay for one of these!

    • @NTRSN-Archive
      @NTRSN-Archive 3 роки тому

      There is a group musicians who know only one Japanese brand ;)

  • @lelandchapman1
    @lelandchapman1 3 роки тому +1

    I love your stuff so very much! Keep it up!

  • @System.10
    @System.10 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video as per usual! :D

  • @soepil
    @soepil 3 роки тому +3

    Great video! I would consider the Poly-800 as an absolute classic synth. Many people had one in the 80s. Never owned one myself, though.

  • @uly1981
    @uly1981 3 роки тому +5

    Having never heard a Poly-800 before i went from the expected "cult synth that behringer is making a clone of" to "this sounds & looks like a casio toy keyboard" pretty quickly during this video, despite your great demo tracks

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      The UI would certainly be quite offputting on a contemporary synth

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't say that's accurate despite its appearance. There's a decent amount to the guts of this synth that can churn out great sounds. The problem is the interface as is without mods is uninspiring.
      The mods really do bring it to life and rectify a lot of the shortcuts Korg took due to budget constraints or due to the lack of competent technology at the time. For instance, the shitty main chip they used to power it.

  • @patricketp8356
    @patricketp8356 3 роки тому +1

    Du holst mich jedes mal zurück in die gute alte VHS Zeit xD

  • @LegendPhase
    @LegendPhase 3 роки тому +1

    Good vid as always !!

  • @Kizunaut
    @Kizunaut 3 роки тому +5

    Has to be one of the better sounding "bad gear" you've featured on your channel. Big Com Truise vibes.

  • @TheRepublicOfJohn
    @TheRepublicOfJohn 3 роки тому +17

    The "leftover pizza" of synths. Cold, cheesy, greasy, and though there may be some meat on it, it's mostly cheap pork. But it sure hits the spot!
    I bought one based solely on the Ableton Suite instrument rack preset Polee800 Bells when I realized I was dropping that device onto a MIDI channel for every new project file. Those queasy bells were the soundtrack of my gap-year! Most of those tracks ended up sounding like the demo track towards the end of the video.
    Also I recommend looking into the mod for hands-on adjustments of the LPF.

  • @shapeshifter8986
    @shapeshifter8986 3 роки тому +1

    This channel is great for rediscover forgotten gear in the basement

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      May I see your basement, please (sounds kinda creepy coming from an Austrian guy;)

  • @gurragaming4888
    @gurragaming4888 3 роки тому +1

    I got excited when I saw one of my favorite synthesizers in the thumbnail. Then I read the title.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      It happens to the best;)

  • @greatheightsu
    @greatheightsu 3 роки тому +4

    Hey AudioPilz, it must be getting pretty nice out in Austria, eh? Maybe we can get another Bad Gear jam on your rooftop again this summer?
    I imagine it's a pain in the ass, but I loved the last one and you've got a lot new gear since then.
    Also great episode, only a little bit disappointed you didn't slap a guitar strap on there and keytar out though. :P

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks! Yeah, Vienna in spring is great! Currently working on the 50k special, stay tuned!

  • @Arehexes
    @Arehexes 3 роки тому +3

    It's Friday, I got my wrap, time to listen to some sweet bad gear.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Arehexes
      @Arehexes 3 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz Thanks for the fun and informative content.

  • @McN4styFilth
    @McN4styFilth 3 роки тому +2

    I wouldn't know it's Friday without these videos.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Weekdays are so overrated

  • @A_Force_Truly_Evil
    @A_Force_Truly_Evil 3 роки тому +1

    You're the best. Thank you for your work.

  • @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi
    @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi 3 роки тому +5

    You should make a Spotify for these songs. They are sick. Sometimes I’ll comeback to a video just to hear your compositions. I especially love 6:14 on this video. Your melodies and chords are so good.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks! There are extended jams and longer edits on Patreon (no plug;)

    • @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi
      @WhatsUpYoutubeItsYoBoi 3 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz Awesome. Thank you!

  • @m4rs435
    @m4rs435 3 роки тому +4

    Hearing "Welcome to bad gear" every single Friday has to have some adverse effects on my psyche

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Scientific research proved that it heals the nation

  • @yavorkaludov3661
    @yavorkaludov3661 3 роки тому +1

    6:15 Depeche Mode wants their song back! Great video, as always:)

  • @aloislang-rousseau3115
    @aloislang-rousseau3115 2 роки тому

    This video made me buy a Poly-800, I really like the sound, and needed to have a keyboard at home when my DSI's in the rehersal room. Thank you ! :)

  • @robbpeppertree
    @robbpeppertree 3 роки тому +8

    I think anybody who has ever owned a Korg Poly-800 knew that this episode was coming. It was just a matter of time.
    I owned one from I think 2000 to 2002. I even did the mods to have cutoff and resonance knobs just above the joystick.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Yeah, these mods are essential!

  • @AttilaSVK
    @AttilaSVK 3 роки тому +3

    I had one in 2007-2008, with a Roland D-10, Yamaha A5000 and an Oberheim Matrix-1000. I remember playing a live cover of Jarre's Oxygene part 8 with the D-10's drum sequencer, the Poly-800's sequencer was triggering the A5000 for bass. The D-10's keyboard was triggering the D-10, with the Warm Strings preset, and the Poly-800's keyboard was triggering the Matrix-1000 for the lead sound. My only problem with the 800 were the slow envelopes, especially the attack: the fastest was still way too slow. Otherwise I quite liked it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Yeah, the envelopes are definitely on the slow side

  • @Flat8G
    @Flat8G 3 роки тому +1

    Yet another synth I've owned. Man did we hate this one in the 90's! Awesome demo as always!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Thanks! Yeah, the hate was strong back then

  • @vasoskyriakides
    @vasoskyriakides 3 роки тому +1

    I love your Karate Kid comparison at the end. Spot on!

  • @torarinvik4920
    @torarinvik4920 3 роки тому +29

    This is the type of synth that sounds great when the user knows what he/she is doing. If they don't it sounds, well...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +4

      ...different;)

    • @TheToughBaby
      @TheToughBaby 2 роки тому +3

      That's literally every musical instrument though.

  • @gelatinous6915
    @gelatinous6915 3 роки тому +4

    I actually like the sound. It's not "fat" but it's got a ton of character that reminds me of synthwave

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Agreed, instant throwback!

  • @DarkSideofSynth
    @DarkSideofSynth 3 роки тому +1

    The insane amount of VHS glitching more than compensated the disturbing lack of Ableton's crashes ;)
    Weiter so!!! :)))

  • @Linixion
    @Linixion Рік тому +1

    A friend let me borrow (indefinitely) his Korg Poly 800x and I loved messing around with it. On my next project I plan on using it liberally.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому

      That's very kind of him! Very usable tones!

  • @666nacirema666
    @666nacirema666 3 роки тому +3

    great synths especially when modded

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Yeah, mod will happen!

  • @EdwardFist
    @EdwardFist 3 роки тому +7

    I picked up a reversed key color one of these from Hard Off in Japan. Good times!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Wow, nice one!

    • @dustincassidy
      @dustincassidy 3 роки тому

      Yeah man I used to live in Japan. It’s all about the sweet Hard Off finds! Do you live there or were you visiting?

    • @EdwardFist
      @EdwardFist 3 роки тому

      @@dustincassidy lived there for years. Switched to Yahoo auctions for better deals. What was your best find?

    • @dustincassidy
      @dustincassidy 3 роки тому

      @@EdwardFist yeah Yahoo auction can have some better bargains. My best find was Zoom Sampletrak for 3500 yen. It’s basically like a dirty little MPC!

  • @petervolz493
    @petervolz493 3 роки тому +1

    A Bad Gear episode about my very first synth! Wasn‘t expecting that. Nice!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Not a bad starting point!

  • @superikone
    @superikone 3 роки тому +1

    What a great vid. Again. Had a lot of fun and lost a few tears for having sold my Poly 800 six years ago.

  • @synthgal1090
    @synthgal1090 3 роки тому +4

    The entire video my brain was going "I need to hear Zanzibar Breeze on this"

  • @bouncytrapbeats
    @bouncytrapbeats 3 роки тому +3

    Shout-out to Full Bucket's Fury-800 vst

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Yeah, I've yet to try that one

  • @oceanwatchesclaudejolly1742
    @oceanwatchesclaudejolly1742 Рік тому +1

    Great synthesizer i got 2 in my home studio will use them this week they sound so cooool

  • @brianbergmusic5288
    @brianbergmusic5288 3 роки тому +1

    I can hear how this keyboard can scratch a certain itch, especially if you are creative with your sound and able to craft music without looking over your shoulder at what you might "be missing/lacking". I can easily see how this plus a decent FM synth plus creativity can get someone's foot into many doors (okay... plus an Amiga for sequencing).
    As a bedroom guitarist, I have most of my cards spent in the guitar world. That being said, I love music and even the "other" tools used to make music. I started off many years ago being interested in synths and keys before I fell in love with the guitar. This world that you have shared with us is valuable and entertaining. Thank you for sharing this world with us. Subbed.

  • @jamessisson3703
    @jamessisson3703 3 роки тому +7

    One of my favourite sounding synths although, these things are very prone to break down nowadays and difficult to repair. I've had 7 in total and 4 in the past 20 years which all stopped working with serious faults. Even the MKII's. I would advise anyone with a working Poly800 to sell it before it catastrophically breaks down!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for posting. That's always a risk!

    • @JayKaufman
      @JayKaufman 3 роки тому +1

      Three words: Battery. Acid. Leaking.
      9/10 if you replace the battery and if it's not the old school soldered in kind (that's the way to tell it needs replacing), this synth will last for years to come! They're actually pretty easy to repair otherwise.
      It's that damn battery acid leaking issue that totally fubars the main circuit board. It renders it nothing more than an etched ice rink with no trace in sight from which you can run jumper wires.

    • @jamessisson3703
      @jamessisson3703 3 роки тому +1

      @@JayKaufman Totally understanding what you're saying although, the 4 units in question had different problems. My most recent MK2 had a very strange oscillator issue where, only one oscillator sounded on half the keys and the other on the remaining half but never played together. No sign of leakage or corrosion. My very experienced repair guy was totally foxed! I got a reasonable price for spares on ebay though.

    • @MFASonic
      @MFASonic 2 роки тому

      Shit happens. I got mine as my very first synth on 24th of November 1984 (birthday #13, MK1 obviously, inverted key version) and it is still almost free of errors except for one key that sometimes triggers double or triple. I have never changed anything, and I used to smoke in my studio for almost 30 years. Hehe, maybe that did the trick :)
      I cannot imagine to sell this unit. No other synth offers me that feature of having ONE analog filter! What, feature??? Yeah, it somehow is. Having DCO and VCF triggered separately is a little tricky to play, but offers you something special. Play legato and let the VCF come to its end, until you feel the need to open it again. That's amazing.
      The unit wasn't that cheap at all. 800USD in 1983 translate to 2.400USD today. For that money, you can buy a REV2-16, almost a Prophet10, the PolyBrute and so many others today. Lucky times we have. But if my hearing doesn't lie to me, only the Prophet 10 is able to more or less recreate the sounds of the Poly800 (you need a chorus then), but still without that "feature".

  • @Chasing_Thoughts
    @Chasing_Thoughts 3 роки тому +4

    Please do a ‘bad gear’ episode on the electribe 2 sampler.
    The er-1 and poly 800 sound like an e2s

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +3

      ET 2 will happen!

    • @DoctorNemmo
      @DoctorNemmo 3 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz I recently found mine next to my night stand covered in dust. Took pictures.

  • @emylievyrling534
    @emylievyrling534 2 роки тому +2

    6:28 how dare you tuck such an ethereal, hypno track into a product review!? WIZARD!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Full tracks as usual on Patreon (shameless plug;)

  • @thealmightycommenter
    @thealmightycommenter 3 роки тому +1

    Highlight of my Fridays 🥰 long live bad gear

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      We live for Bad Gear!!!

  • @SynthAddict
    @SynthAddict 3 роки тому +3

    funny it had the same synth mode as the little Casio SK-1 "synthesizer" section with organ footing -
    you made the Poly-800 sound good as usual
    ah you have the vocoder chip to change the DarkStar unit into a vocoder - I have the DarkStar XP2 and it has no vocoding option - it's fine since I have at least 10 things that vocode already :-)
    you should track down an Alesis Metavox vocoder pedal

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! The DS VOCODA really sucks, there's not much you missed;)

    • @SynthAddict
      @SynthAddict 3 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz good to know, I was always curious and they are rare as hell so who can even try one? :-)
      that name sucks anyway, trying to be hip
      the XP2 is an OK synth but has some special weirdness and it was dirt cheap from a friend

  • @christopherjacobsen-noaaaf1592
    @christopherjacobsen-noaaaf1592 3 роки тому +3

    If I knew any better back then I would have bought a poly 800 over Casio CZ-101. I thought the CZ was the only game in town for 500$.

  • @lairdkilbarchan
    @lairdkilbarchan 3 роки тому +1

    You're gradually picking your way through my entire synth collection. Please cease and desist. 😱

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      You have no evidence😅 😅 😅

  • @trebleboost7
    @trebleboost7 2 роки тому +1

    My 80s gig rig was an ESQ-1 and the Poly-800 and a MIDIVerb II, then added a MIDIDisk for loading sequences/songs. Yeah. Budget. But I spent a lot of time on those machines and programmed them like crazy. I still have tapes! Love the review and content!