There's another reason behind tech cards I think which is simply people like feeling smart and or punishing people they don't like. And if you hate secret mage and play an eater of secrets into 5 secrets (and don't get it objectioned) you feel smart, you make the opponent sad, and it's good. Even if it's a terrible card and not even good even if you only qed into that specific deck it feels good and feels smart and people love that.
Yeah, people REALLY want to force those "I got you" moments. I have done those, but you know, USING GOOD CARDS. Stuff like a Mutanus during Stormwind or Castle Nathria to try to check questlines rewards or Denatrius.
@@JohnWhitneyTheFourth i mean, i think that comes with the assumption that the players think its be good or smart. "i hate (x deck) so ill tech against it" isnt about how good it would be, but being fun
27:45 I've been playing Questline Priest again recently, and let me tell you, the amount of Steamcleaners I've seen is staggering. The best part about it is that it is so blatantly obvious that it doesn't even do anything to help them. I just make sure to wait until I can tutor the shard out immediatly while they don't do much of anything since they paid 4 mana to get a 5 5/5 in hand. Not to mention some of the decks running these things. I've unironically seen a Plague Deathknight hardrun Steamcleaner. Not even in an ETC or anything. Seriously. Of all the decks to run Steamcleaner.
I mean, I can only see 1 deck where you should use steamcleaner: Reno decks ON STANDARD to deal with Plague DK or Framester, INSIDE AN ETC. You know, like a tech card who will only be relevant in 1 out of 10 games because you need reno to go off. At least Framester is a decent card in regular play who becomes game-winning against Reno decks which are very popular right now in standard, and is used only in reno shaman aka the bowl of 30 random good cards with no real direction.
@@N12015 Hey, Steamcleaner is essential to my overly complicated (and stupid) Warlock OTK involving putting ungodly amounts of sludge into my deck and killing opponents with that. I've also had one game where the opponent played a Cleaner right after I set up my deck (lacking mana, oops) which just resulted in their death.
The very first opponent he faces, the reno is me :D. Unfortunately I really had nothing but secrets in hand and couldn't do much after he cleared the conjurer.
I know it's generally frowned upon to snipe streamers, but it is super fun to queue into them, close the stream, play against them, then watch the vod and see what they said/did as they played against you
@unicornwithnohorn6230 if you close the stream it's no longer that bad, you just want to fight the streamer guy and say "hey look mom there I am!" and that's just fine.
I rly like your duels content! In fact i like it so much, that i even write a comment for the algorythm even tho i usally don't write comments/ are too lazy or simply forget it. Therefore i will just copy paste this below all your duels videos so you algorythm pops the f off and you never forget that you doing a good job!
Steamcleaners is only usefull on slush warlock to discard every slush in one go so either a 5 mana clear or finish and i was sad to no see it in the duel video when it actually do something for once and counter bomb curses and even dragon dream ...
Hot take, the armour = attack thing shouldn't be a permanent battlecry reward, it should be an "while this minion is on-board" effect. Being able to gain 20 attack and 20 (10 temp) armour, and potentially clear the board for 4 mana is silly. If it lasts a turn, you get a pay off, one shot the enemy, go ahead.
@@velrex8140 it's a tough one to balance, but how about this - battlecry: the FIRST instance of armour gain per turn gets also converted into attack. So yes you can use a 2 mana gain 10 attack and 10 armour, or 2 mana, gain 5 attack, 5 armour and draw a card, both insanely good stats for the cost, but you can't slam the opponent with 40 damage while also gaining 40 armour the following turn with skipper and friends, or go "lol double shield block, double frozen buckler, 8 mana take 30, nerd". That would be a fair balance and allow for less oppression and some play around, I feel.
There's another reason behind tech cards I think which is simply people like feeling smart and or punishing people they don't like. And if you hate secret mage and play an eater of secrets into 5 secrets (and don't get it objectioned) you feel smart, you make the opponent sad, and it's good. Even if it's a terrible card and not even good even if you only qed into that specific deck it feels good and feels smart and people love that.
You're onto something here
Yeah, people REALLY want to force those "I got you" moments. I have done those, but you know, USING GOOD CARDS. Stuff like a Mutanus during Stormwind or Castle Nathria to try to check questlines rewards or Denatrius.
Or maybe they like the card and want to put it in their deck. People can use whatever cards they want.
@@shanetuma3845 No yeah they can do what they want. The issue is they gaslight themselves into believing it's good
@@JohnWhitneyTheFourth i mean, i think that comes with the assumption that the players think its be good or smart. "i hate (x deck) so ill tech against it" isnt about how good it would be, but being fun
27:45 I've been playing Questline Priest again recently, and let me tell you, the amount of Steamcleaners I've seen is staggering. The best part about it is that it is so blatantly obvious that it doesn't even do anything to help them. I just make sure to wait until I can tutor the shard out immediatly while they don't do much of anything since they paid 4 mana to get a 5 5/5 in hand.
Not to mention some of the decks running these things. I've unironically seen a Plague Deathknight hardrun Steamcleaner. Not even in an ETC or anything. Seriously. Of all the decks to run Steamcleaner.
I mean, I can only see 1 deck where you should use steamcleaner: Reno decks ON STANDARD to deal with Plague DK or Framester, INSIDE AN ETC. You know, like a tech card who will only be relevant in 1 out of 10 games because you need reno to go off. At least Framester is a decent card in regular play who becomes game-winning against Reno decks which are very popular right now in standard, and is used only in reno shaman aka the bowl of 30 random good cards with no real direction.
@@N12015 Hey, Steamcleaner is essential to my overly complicated (and stupid) Warlock OTK involving putting ungodly amounts of sludge into my deck and killing opponents with that. I've also had one game where the opponent played a Cleaner right after I set up my deck (lacking mana, oops) which just resulted in their death.
@@FurtiveCutlessat least you have a reason to run it 💅
The very first opponent he faces, the reno is me :D. Unfortunately I really had nothing but secrets in hand and couldn't do much after he cleared the conjurer.
I know it's generally frowned upon to snipe streamers, but it is super fun to queue into them, close the stream, play against them, then watch the vod and see what they said/did as they played against you
@unicornwithnohorn6230 if you close the stream it's no longer that bad, you just want to fight the streamer guy and say "hey look mom there I am!" and that's just fine.
@@unicornwithnohorn if you just know theyre playing and queue in hopes of matching them, its not really sniping
It's crazy how many games you show bombs and plagues low roll and people still continue riding the tech card train.
I rly like your duels content! In fact i like it so much, that i even write a comment for the algorythm even tho i usally don't write comments/ are too lazy or simply forget it. Therefore i will just copy paste this below all your duels videos so you algorythm pops the f off and you never forget that you doing a good job!
roffle good video and 🤔miss letal at 59:32 =)(whith king cruch)
where do the other 15 damage come from? The treasure is nerfed in duels.
Steamcleaners is only usefull on slush warlock to discard every slush in one go so either a 5 mana clear or finish and i was sad to no see it in the duel video when it actually do something for once and counter bomb curses and even dragon dream ...
Your auto-correct made sludge slush btw. Not trying to be that spellchecking A-hole just letting you know in case you care
Seems like something all card games share in common is players not liking to read the full cards
very nice ranked rating at the end there.
What is that extension tô see graphics of caracteres?
Been waiting for this one
Hot take, the armour = attack thing shouldn't be a permanent battlecry reward, it should be an "while this minion is on-board" effect. Being able to gain 20 attack and 20 (10 temp) armour, and potentially clear the board for 4 mana is silly. If it lasts a turn, you get a pay off, one shot the enemy, go ahead.
that'd be so much worse for the game because Oydn would have to be a lot cheaper so you die sooner.
At that point they might as well just delete Odyn. The card would be unplayably bad.
@@velrex8140 it's a tough one to balance, but how about this - battlecry: the FIRST instance of armour gain per turn gets also converted into attack. So yes you can use a 2 mana gain 10 attack and 10 armour, or 2 mana, gain 5 attack, 5 armour and draw a card, both insanely good stats for the cost, but you can't slam the opponent with 40 damage while also gaining 40 armour the following turn with skipper and friends, or go "lol double shield block, double frozen buckler, 8 mana take 30, nerd". That would be a fair balance and allow for less oppression and some play around, I feel.
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lmao as i was watching this video while playing Hearth, my opponent played Infinitize the M at the same time his did
I've been DYING to see a weapon brann deck.
Last game was truly the fight of warriors
Woohoo! More doolz!
That's what she said
Not sure why he kept hitting minions against the bomb warrior. Take down the armor. Ignore the snakes.
Face control Brann
One question am I history?
Wow there are some brooooken ass decks in duels.
Ive played this deck 4 times and didnt get the right passive treasures
Same, until I shoved 4 weapons in the starting deck. Apparently that is the threshold to target it more regularly.
Bran in 2023?
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Brain in 2023?