The Craft of Quill Pens

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • When the reed pen died out, the quill pen was invented around the 6th century in Seville, Spain.
    Writing with a quill pen is a fascinating art that requires more than just plucking a feather and dipping it in ink. The process is intricate and demands careful attention to detail. First and foremost, selecting the appropriate feather is crucial. Different birds yield feathers with varying qualities, such as flexibility and durability. For instance, swan feathers are often preferred due to their strong and flexible nature.
    Preparing the feather for writing is a meticulous task. The feather needs to be cleaned, trimmed, and boiled to remove any residual oils and make it more pliable. After boiling, it is dried in hot sand to maintain its shape and prevent it from curling or splitting during use.
    One of the most intricate steps involves carving the nib, which determines the thickness and flow of the ink. The nib's tip needs to be delicately shaped and slit to ensure smooth ink flow and precise strokes. It demands skilled craftsmanship and practice to master this art.
    In conclusion, writing with a quill pen involves a comprehensive process beyond the initial perception. From selecting the right feather to meticulously preparing it and carving the nib, this ancient practice demands a deep understanding of materials and craftsmanship. It is a testament to the patience and skill required to produce beautiful, intricate script with such a traditional writing instrument.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 6 тис.

  • @PoppingCake
    @PoppingCake Рік тому +35613

    Just earned a new respect for writers and quill makers from the 1700s

    • @solomonwiggins8815
      @solomonwiggins8815 Рік тому +407

      Im one from the 2000s. Were still here lol

    • @rickcoona8368
      @rickcoona8368 Рік тому +163

      that is where the term "Pen Knife" came from it didn't mean "Pocket Knife" as it does today

    • @florangelmartinez5297
      @florangelmartinez5297 Рік тому +24

      @@solomonwiggins8815 lol your smart

    • @obscure.reference
      @obscure.reference Рік тому +19

      @@solomonwiggins8815you make quills?

    • @solomonwiggins8815
      @solomonwiggins8815 Рік тому +115

      @@obscure.reference absolutely, I make them and then use them. One time I sold about 37 quills to a history teacher at my old school so they could have there students use them. It was cool.

  • @kenkirkpatrick731
    @kenkirkpatrick731 Рік тому +5739

    I never realized the angle of the paper mattered or that writing upward isn’t feasible. Very interesting and I’m glad pens and pencils exist.

    • @sarahanonymous1036
      @sarahanonymous1036 Рік тому +32

      Same, i always thought writing w/ quills just sucked lol.

    • @spiritus1512
      @spiritus1512 Рік тому +32

      It’s a thing in most broad and pointed calligraphy as well! Except y self and most of my fellow calligraphers just use 🦐 posture instead

    • @Blndi3
      @Blndi3 Рік тому +33

      Yeah now I understand why a lot of old calligraphy used more angular scripts instead of some of the loopy/bubblier handwriting people sometimes have today

    • @sureindubitably3771
      @sureindubitably3771 Рік тому +9

      ​@@Blndi3I never understood why writing in cursive is so important lol

    • @hershekissed
      @hershekissed Рік тому

      How would you realize this in the 21st century?😂

  • @spgamingskullpros7198
    @spgamingskullpros7198 Рік тому +211169

    finally understand why i couldn't write with the crow feather i found on the road

    • @Zaarck0
      @Zaarck0 Рік тому +4307

      😂😂

    • @n0vanox
      @n0vanox Рік тому +10552

      Why did I read this as cow feather

    • @jyjaeskz
      @jyjaeskz Рік тому +2722

      ​@@n0vanoxwondering the same thing

    • @nacchan7227
      @nacchan7227 Рік тому +878

      ​@@n0vanox same lol

    • @cailin5301
      @cailin5301 Рік тому +1392

      As a kid I tried to turn random feathers into quill pens. I knew I needed a slit and angle to a point, but that was all I knew. I never could figure out why they wouldn't work 😅

  • @Steven_McCrae
    @Steven_McCrae 2 місяці тому +614

    _THIS_ is the kinda stuff what UA-cam shorts was made for…interesting and informative, loved it !! ❤

    • @jn797
      @jn797 Місяць тому +7

      Exactly! UA-cam Shorts is the G.O.A.T when it comes to social media. Insta Reels etc could never compete!!! ❤

    • @NarutoChakraborty134
      @NarutoChakraborty134 Місяць тому +4

      Wasn't it supposed to be a dating app..🤔

    • @Kalakastik3
      @Kalakastik3 Місяць тому +1

      UA-cam, yes. Shorts, no ​@@NarutoChakraborty134

    • @PCWarriorTV
      @PCWarriorTV День тому

      these are the only shorts i watch informative and brainfood videos. if its not i just skip it i recommend Vsause

  • @atomlightstone
    @atomlightstone Рік тому +35232

    I remember trying to write with a random feather I found when I was young, not even using ink just straight up feather

  • @Vitartial
    @Vitartial Рік тому +30012

    You know what, a moment of respect and appreciation for the man who invented the ballpoint pen

    • @prestonowens4594
      @prestonowens4594 Рік тому +593

      I believe that was a man named Lazlo Biro or something like that.

    • @Amida-rn3ie
      @Amida-rn3ie 11 місяців тому +335

      ​@@Raymationseven those are complicated and expensive

    • @anonymouspersonthefake
      @anonymouspersonthefake 11 місяців тому +239

      @@Amida-rn3ie nowhere near as diffuclt as a quill

    • @Gg_premium
      @Gg_premium 11 місяців тому +111

      W for László Bíró and John J. Loud

    • @sniedendepoes
      @sniedendepoes 11 місяців тому +42

      Invented by Anne Frank

  • @silverblue73
    @silverblue73 Рік тому +18366

    He was trying to explain how quills work but ended up explaining why we have pens

    • @florkgagga
      @florkgagga Рік тому +109

      Underrated! 😉

    • @timothyadrianutama3861
      @timothyadrianutama3861 Рік тому +19

      😂

    • @RigoVids
      @RigoVids Рік тому +178

      I feel like both of those are tangential topics, and he was more focused on describing the difficulties with creating feathered pens but ok

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 Рік тому +49

      Right? You're essentially manually creating a fountain pen. Ain't nobody got time for that.

    • @prolucario_9076
      @prolucario_9076 Рік тому +19

      ​@@RigoVidsits a joke

  • @Angled
    @Angled Місяць тому +439

    I remember trying to write with a random feather I found when I was young, not even using ink just straight up feather

    • @TadashiYasahiro
      @TadashiYasahiro Місяць тому +5

      😂😂 yeahhhh, I couldn’t find ink so just wrote in the sand

    • @Annii_Oakley_
      @Annii_Oakley_ Місяць тому +2

      This is so incredibly cute. The sand writing too…

    • @PsyFyFungi
      @PsyFyFungi 9 годин тому +1

      Bot, copies comment

  • @notusneo
    @notusneo Рік тому +37659

    Bless the man who invented pen

    • @xano2921
      @xano2921 Рік тому +434

      you mean style pen or ball-point pen?

    • @willbill7250
      @willbill7250 Рік тому +232

      quill, thrill, drill

    • @vitormelomedeiros
      @vitormelomedeiros Рік тому +1093

      ​@@xano2921 both are great inventions but I do believe the ballpoint pen is one of the greatest inventions of humankind, up there with the car, the vaccine, concrete, antibiotics, the lightbulb, etc.

    • @yeahyeah-ds3kv
      @yeahyeah-ds3kv Рік тому +51

      You can’t have any of those without pen

    • @placeholder3863
      @placeholder3863 Рік тому +94

      @@vitormelomedeiros I prefer pencils

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 Рік тому +6888

    Holy shit writing was a skill back then

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal Рік тому +439

      It still is, just different

    • @MyTimelord11
      @MyTimelord11 Рік тому +180

      Yeah fr. I used to use a dip pen that is very much like the quil he is describing only made of metal. I had to teach myself a totally new way to draw but the control I got with my strokes made it so fun and worthwhile :) but this is another level. You would have to have the exact right tool, environment, skills, and knowledge to write back when feather quils were state of the art I imagine

    • @khanhnguyen-tt3ff
      @khanhnguyen-tt3ff Рік тому +34

      you wonder why back then only monk an noble was able to write stuff.( noble just hired people to do it)

    • @NickBurns-ey6od
      @NickBurns-ey6od Рік тому +10

      Harry Potter was doing it from 91-96

    • @TheMannis.
      @TheMannis. Рік тому +1

      ​@@NickBurns-ey6od😂

  • @Spoder_Man420
    @Spoder_Man420 Рік тому +17491

    Authors back in the day would wrestle with giant birds just so they can write their books thats why old books are expensive.

    • @winxclubflora8446
      @winxclubflora8446 11 місяців тому +203

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @joshuabarnhill1265
      @joshuabarnhill1265 11 місяців тому +471

      More likely they hunted them and made them dinner and took the feathers or made an industry out of hunting birds to sell quills to everyone

    • @hellefur7861
      @hellefur7861 11 місяців тому +74

      Well, they normally used Goose feathers, and there was plenty of gees around.

    • @Spoder_Man420
      @Spoder_Man420 11 місяців тому +138

      Imagine living in the 1700's and seeing someone wrestling a fucking adult ostrich just to write a book 😂😂😂😂

    • @dp_hridayan
      @dp_hridayan 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@joshuabarnhill1265yeah and nowadays people just eat meat and waste the feathers😢😑

  • @KelvieCarlile-cf8em
    @KelvieCarlile-cf8em 2 місяці тому +26

    The fact that someone came up with this is still crazy to me. I know people used everything they could from everything they had but must have been an artist to first express such ingenuity.

  • @TintagelEmrys
    @TintagelEmrys Рік тому +808

    Don't forget that you have to sharpen your quill about as often as a pencil. This is why small pocket knives are pen knives, they are for sharpening quills

    • @sohailsalikram4122
      @sohailsalikram4122 Рік тому +23

      Oooooh my goodness 🙆🏽‍♂️

    • @horsejackmanbo7292
      @horsejackmanbo7292 Рік тому +51

      And 'pens' are female swans, which provide the best feathers for quills.

    • @kevinbernard5182
      @kevinbernard5182 Рік тому +12

      mind blown

    • @spiritus1512
      @spiritus1512 Рік тому +22

      Most calligraphers in illuminated manuscripts are also pictured with a trusty knife! Very handy for scoring in guidelines, holding the page, or trimming your quill

    • @Romanticoutlaw
      @Romanticoutlaw Рік тому +2

      🤯

  • @vaishnavimaroju8382
    @vaishnavimaroju8382 Рік тому +12864

    I now understand why people sell quills in the wizarding world and not just pluck them off of some random bird.😂

    • @artbymoni5187
      @artbymoni5187 Рік тому +126

      Yeah I've wondered that since I was 8

    • @onesimus8184
      @onesimus8184 Рік тому

      Witchcraft is demonic. Be careful.

    • @husaynbootwala1729
      @husaynbootwala1729 Рік тому +157

      They should really start using pens

    • @jefflibby5474
      @jefflibby5474 Рік тому +106

      ​@@husaynbootwala1729seriously... Only electronics would go haywire around Hogwarts... So why so difficult 🤷‍♂️

    • @abstract3517
      @abstract3517 Рік тому +68

      they got all those damn spells and not one to dribble a little ink from their wand smh.

  • @renos_
    @renos_ Рік тому +11462

    Someone get this guy a pen

    • @Randomchannel770
      @Randomchannel770 Рік тому +36

      Lol

    • @j2burk
      @j2burk Рік тому +5

      140 likes and one comment? Let me fix that

    • @with_palo
      @with_palo Рік тому +3

      315 like and 2 comments? Lemme fix that...

    • @renos_
      @renos_ Рік тому +4

      316 likes and 3 comments? Lemme fix that real quick

    • @Whose_penelope123.
      @Whose_penelope123. Рік тому +3

      530 likes and 4 comments? Let me fix that

  • @Wulf_ix
    @Wulf_ix Місяць тому +22

    We had a History teacher, witch prepared the Feathers for us. It were the best time in school i had.

    • @kevinb7551
      @kevinb7551 Місяць тому

      You're English teacher wasn't half as good 😅
      what a train wreck 🎉

    • @Ashaliyeva
      @Ashaliyeva 17 днів тому

      @@kevinb7551has it occurred to you that English might not be this person’s primary language?

    • @NoriMori1992
      @NoriMori1992 14 днів тому

      I think you mean "which". Or better yet, "who".

    • @NoriMori1992
      @NoriMori1992 14 днів тому

      @@kevinb7551 *Your

    • @laurieb3703
      @laurieb3703 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@kevinb7551your* 😂

  • @Finraen
    @Finraen Рік тому +4579

    Similar video in 200 years: “Typing on a keyboard might be more complicated than you think...”

    • @criscrosxxx
      @criscrosxxx Рік тому +23

      Never

    • @sadfaceemojioxlong8593
      @sadfaceemojioxlong8593 Рік тому +346

      You need to actually use your brain to send impulses to your fingers,and then you need to plan a message that can be interpreted by others out of the context of the shared hive mind

    • @NOWABOmusic
      @NOWABOmusic 11 місяців тому +130

      And you actually have to be able to spell the words that you want to type with no AI assistance!

    • @Henry-kz4gn
      @Henry-kz4gn 11 місяців тому +27

      You have to build the keyboard yourself.

    • @Piano_Board
      @Piano_Board 11 місяців тому +7

      💀💀

  • @normaswann8992
    @normaswann8992 Рік тому +1207

    No wonder most their handwriting was beautiful, they weren't writing, they drew every letter.

    • @v1ncemouth192
      @v1ncemouth192 11 місяців тому +33

      That was beautiful.

    • @benjamincartwright2923
      @benjamincartwright2923 11 місяців тому +14

      Underrated comment

    • @PraiseTheLordyourGodJesus
      @PraiseTheLordyourGodJesus 11 місяців тому

      Ephesians‬ ‭6:10‭-‬18‬ ‭Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.

    • @traiforse5777
      @traiforse5777 4 місяці тому

      *Cough* Calligraphy

  • @totallynameless8861
    @totallynameless8861 Рік тому +5181

    Worst part of Hogwarts.

  • @Corrinecreates
    @Corrinecreates 7 днів тому +11

    This is one of the few moments I can say, human beings are so amazing.

  • @Maskit4life
    @Maskit4life 6 місяців тому +6089

    I remember back in 3rd grade, my school had a whole history event. All the teachers were dressed from the 1700’s, and the whole school was decorated. It was so awesome, and they taught us how to make butter FROM SCRATCH. They also taught us all how to write with a feather (better known as a quill). It was so fun. Best school day ever, honestly.

    • @RuthlessBoot3455
      @RuthlessBoot3455 4 місяці тому +175

      So jealous right now wish I had that at 3rd grade

    • @Maskit4life
      @Maskit4life 4 місяці тому +37

      @@RuthlessBoot3455 it was so awesome💔

    • @chrisdanks741
      @chrisdanks741 2 місяці тому +42

      Probably due to living in Philly but I thought this was like something every child did. I guess living in the birthplace of America it’s kind of a thing the city education system does, they’d bring in the churns and shit and teach us the quills and make us sign our own class declarations lol.

    • @peshka96024
      @peshka96024 2 місяці тому +12

      ​@@chrisdanks741nah, it probably just in 1 world countries, in my country there was nothing honestly

    • @chrisdanks741
      @chrisdanks741 2 місяці тому +14

      @@peshka96024 I’m sure there’s plenty of schools in America that did the absolute bare minimum.

  • @elyseishere8714
    @elyseishere8714 11 місяців тому +10254

    This explains why writing was a skill not everyone had or could do

    • @alfa_kenny_body
      @alfa_kenny_body 10 місяців тому +841

      As well as why everyone's handwriting was so immaculate

    • @theoriginalmonstermaker
      @theoriginalmonstermaker 10 місяців тому +395

      Well yeah, that and the fact that it takes the privilege of having years of practice and materials to learn with. The major limitation isn't really just "a feather ".

    • @Gir-Riff-raffe
      @Gir-Riff-raffe 10 місяців тому +15

      Yeah but why are we still running on bicameral legislation?

    • @Gir-Riff-raffe
      @Gir-Riff-raffe 10 місяців тому +84

      @enriqueamaya3883Jesus gunna strike you blind for spelling his name wrong

    • @doubleicecream1302
      @doubleicecream1302 10 місяців тому +9

      @@theoriginalmonstermakercrying bruh i cant tell if the original comment is a joke or not but it’s so funny either way

  • @bluexwings
    @bluexwings Рік тому +6472

    My grandmother always used quills to write letters in her younger days. She took great pride in her calligraphy. The paper she preferred was very expensive, even for the 50s-60s, according to my mom.

    • @Uttersteilk
      @Uttersteilk Рік тому +18

      666 likes

    • @Ava-wu4qp
      @Ava-wu4qp Рік тому +70

      Never tried quills myself but in the fountain pen world, Tomoe River paper is one of the more highly regarded papers that is produced on a large scale. It's roughly $0.20 per loose A4 page.

    • @daisyk271
      @daisyk271 Рік тому +4

      0lpp0q

    • @Thawhid
      @Thawhid Рік тому

      ​@@Uttersteilkok?

    • @Nathaliya-g8s
      @Nathaliya-g8s Рік тому +3

      Wow

  • @dadtype2339
    @dadtype2339 Місяць тому +9

    Been doing calligraphy pretty much my whole life, and I specialize in Long stroke for my handwriting, when I write out letters and thank you cards to church or other folk, my Mother or my Wife are often complimented by how beautiful the handwriting is, and are shocked when they learn it's a man's handwriting.
    One super important thing you missed and this goes for the same with quills or nibs on fountain pens, never ever ever ever ever ever ever let anyone else use your quill or fountain pen, they use a different pressure to write their letters than you do and therefore can form or bend the nibs in a way to where when you use it they will not work properly for you any longer.❤

  • @-inFinity05-
    @-inFinity05- Рік тому +4266

    I broke the system when I made a feather pen at 12. I just took the inside of a normal pen, shoved it up in there, add a bit of white duct tape and boom! Feather pen that I used at school for like a whole year.

    • @braincells1785
      @braincells1785 Рік тому +651

      bro really wanna be shakespear

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ Рік тому +52

      i want to do this

    • @warriorson7979
      @warriorson7979 Рік тому +94

      Not all heroes wear capes.😏

    • @dylanm.3692
      @dylanm.3692 Рік тому +80

      I did the same thing with a goose feather recently. Works great.

    • @ashleydavis2355
      @ashleydavis2355 Рік тому +56

      I did the same thing with a peacock feather (the buzzy feathers not the pretty ones) and i thought i was a bad ass😂

  • @lukewilliams8548
    @lukewilliams8548 Рік тому +579

    When we were kids, my brother found a feather at the park. He used a pocket knife and his best guess to make the point. With mom's permission we juiced a bag of cherries and got a few table spoons of juice. He tried writing with it and it crudely worked. It didn't really glide and you had to dip it often, but it made legible letters on paper. While we went to show our parents, our younger brother, being very young at the time, saw juice and drank it. We only got to use a fraction of the ink we made.

    • @omariomariomario1194
      @omariomariomario1194 Рік тому +14

      Very nice story

    • @steele_heart77
      @steele_heart77 Рік тому +52

      Your younger brother really be the type of mf to remind the teacher to hand out homework

    • @ElpSmith
      @ElpSmith Рік тому +3

      That’s really cool. What is your genius brother doing now?

    • @WanderingWolfe
      @WanderingWolfe Рік тому +11

      Little man saw an opportunity and took it.

    • @lukewilliams8548
      @lukewilliams8548 Рік тому +26

      @@ElpSmith The brother that made the quill is almost done with a degree in chemical engineering at a prestigious college.

  • @jlw7771
    @jlw7771 2 місяці тому +6

    I had to learn this when I was taking graphic design classes in college. Once you learn how to do it though, it's really fun.

  • @Gerrosimo1
    @Gerrosimo1 9 місяців тому +1220

    A lot of people don't understand how much of an art writing used to be.

    • @DhoklaAboveVadapav
      @DhoklaAboveVadapav Місяць тому +11

      ancient worthless skill

    • @alexnather7614
      @alexnather7614 Місяць тому

      ​If u think calligraphy is useless then art is useless​@@DhoklaAboveVadapav

    • @Scottf573
      @Scottf573 Місяць тому

      @@DhoklaAboveVadapavyou’re worthless

    • @marchdarkenotp3346
      @marchdarkenotp3346 Місяць тому +39

      ​@@DhoklaAboveVadapav careful with that edge, kid

    • @ARG0T
      @ARG0T Місяць тому +26

      ​@@DhoklaAboveVadapav Worthless comment

  • @hamyongk2240
    @hamyongk2240 11 місяців тому +1728

    I once wrote an Arabic letter with a feather my teacher gave me, it was already prepared so I just used it. It feels amazing, and everyone should try

    • @aprettydumbperson
      @aprettydumbperson 6 місяців тому +7

      misread feather as father and man the thought of a teacher just mailing a father is pretty crazy

    • @Zulkak1357
      @Zulkak1357 4 місяці тому +11

      Which letter?

    • @ayaya173
      @ayaya173 3 місяці тому +11

      I once wrote a number with a feather and it didn’t feel good. Do not recommend.

    • @MargotRenoir
      @MargotRenoir 2 місяці тому +10

      I’m learning arabic and writing has been so challenging with a regular pen. When I saw this video my first thought was, “this would be so great for writing arabic”

    • @DelusionalMan2
      @DelusionalMan2 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MargotRenoir if you need help with the language i might help. I'm not a professional with it but a native speaker.

  • @Daragausthedragon
    @Daragausthedragon Рік тому +792

    That makes so much sense. In the 4th grade our teachers had us try using feather pens and they all came out awful. We didn’t have the right strokes or the right surface

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Рік тому +22

      When I was in middle and hischool some student still used feather-pens for some writing, I think I used it once or twice it was fun ^^

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy Рік тому +1

      Elementary school teachers are dunces.

    • @red.maned.unicorn
      @red.maned.unicorn Рік тому +29

      Also, you were kids - at that age, chances are you were still developing the fine motor skills to write neatly with any instrument!

    • @kugelblitz1557
      @kugelblitz1557 Рік тому

      It's a lot like writing with a fountain pen except it's less forgiving if you fuck up.

    • @andylutz3505
      @andylutz3505 Рік тому

      ​@@red.maned.unicornmy handwriting hasn't changed since fourth grade, and I graduated a few years ago 😹

  • @rohanthakur4285
    @rohanthakur4285 Місяць тому +1

    Let's thank the person who invented Pencil. Even though it's not used as much now, It was what allowed education to be possible for masses for the first time. ❤ ✌️

  • @temp3608
    @temp3608 Рік тому +830

    I used to wonder why not everyone knew how to read and write in the medieval times because it seemed so easy aside from spelling being a pain sometimes. Other than ofc, being broke and not being able to afford lessons.
    Now I know one of many reasons why.

    • @wardogs667
      @wardogs667 Рік тому +75

      At the very least a LOT of people knew how to read. Not knowing is actually a myth, though i can see why writing could have been difficult. Remember, Dante Algheri got in trouble not because of his divine comedy, but that he wrote it in italian not latin. So the common folk could read it.

    • @rruthlessly
      @rruthlessly Рік тому +35

      ​@@wardogs667Most people did not encounter anything written in their daily life so not being able to read was normal. Books were as expensive as cars are now and not as useful. People who do not read or write typically have much better memories so it wasn't a big deal.

    • @jgw5491
      @jgw5491 Рік тому +20

      @@rruthlessly Writing would also be prohibitively expensive in Europe until they started more commonly making and using rag paper in the 13th cent. Before that people who wrote manuscripts had to use vellum or parchment, both made from highly treated animal skins and membranes. Labor intensive and therefore pricy!

    • @TheGarchompxd
      @TheGarchompxd Рік тому +1

      if youre into anime this is basically what ascendence of a bookworm is about

    • @merelha5930
      @merelha5930 Рік тому +4

      This really depends on the time period and place (and there is a pretty big chance information about it have been lost). Not every place used quills, even for languages with the Latin alphabet. We still have the big fancy manuscripts, because they've been carefully kept and are usually made with pretty durable materials. Most people wouldn't have used those. Hell, the only reason we know about the shitty copper of one specific guy from 1750 BC is because his house burned down or something
      There was a whole period in either Iceland or Greenland where pretty much everyone could read. They had a surplus on leather/hide to make books and a lot of time on their hands because of the long winters and would spend a big part of that reading.
      There are a lot of other examples, like little monster drawings and notes from boys learning how to write, letters, poems etc. Especially in different parts of the world. You just have to dig a bit deeper because they're not as well known. I even read somewhere that most people knew how to read/write/etc but didn't do it/said they couldn't to avoid taxes.

  • @sidthevar2679
    @sidthevar2679 Рік тому +306

    I understand now why homeworks are such a drag in the Harry Potter universe.....

    • @clint4527
      @clint4527 11 місяців тому

      Always wonder, why Hermione and Harry didn't bring things like pen and computer with them.

    • @jeohranalfhir8366
      @jeohranalfhir8366 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@clint4527"Have you, like, _never_ read the History of Hogwarts? Electronics don't work in Hogwarts because the magical vibrations from the school's protections deactivate them." (or something similar, I haven't read the books in English) - Hermione
      Pens though... For real

    • @honestsimp1171
      @honestsimp1171 11 місяців тому

      Exactly what I was thinking

  • @dursty3226
    @dursty3226 Рік тому +3114

    how on earth did humans figure out all of this? like what made someone think of plucking a specific feather from a bird, soaking it, drying it specifically in hot sand, and whittling it into a very specific shape?

    • @hellothere9167
      @hellothere9167 Рік тому +774

      Some guy said I had enough of writing in stone shit and did his best to replace it

    • @humanwithaplaylist
      @humanwithaplaylist Рік тому +422

      Idk. Leave somone alone to play with what resources they have around them and eventually they'll make something that works

    • @Laflamme78
      @Laflamme78 Рік тому +207

      Trial and error.

    • @JustAnotherPerc
      @JustAnotherPerc Рік тому +290

      You have to remember that this is how they wrote for centuries, so what we are watching is the end product, but the first quills were definitely not this good.

    • @tonydai782
      @tonydai782 Рік тому +68

      The same way we’ve accomplished many things. Trial and error over hundreds of years.

  • @gardnerhill9073
    @gardnerhill9073 2 місяці тому +4

    I have a clay inkpot and a goose-feather quill my parents got me from a trip to Williamsburg. Every time I'm freaking out about having trouble writing on my laptop, I look at the quill and inkpot and remember that that was what Shakespeare wrote with.

  • @gnomeconspiracy2122
    @gnomeconspiracy2122 11 місяців тому +2171

    When I interned at a historical museum, part of my job was working at the family activity center where my primary responsibility was teaching kids how to write with feathers. Every morning I'd show up an hour before the center opened so that I could sharpen and test the feathers that would be used by the kids. I still make quills for my friends if they find the proper feather, and have a small collection of feather quills I've made on my own.

    • @anonelle28
      @anonelle28 10 місяців тому +15

      That is so cool!

    • @chronjuanjm
      @chronjuanjm 9 місяців тому +6

      Niiice

    • @aapp776
      @aapp776 8 місяців тому +21

      Okay I've decided. I want to be your friend.

    • @aapp776
      @aapp776 8 місяців тому +5

      Okay I've decided. I want to be your friend.

    • @KyloRen-2010
      @KyloRen-2010 5 місяців тому +1

      Cool!!!

  • @PotatoesAreNeat
    @PotatoesAreNeat Рік тому +10387

    As someone who discovered a flight feather in the desert and intends to make a quill from it, I find this extremely helpful.
    Edit - discovering that it’s illegal to obtain a FALLEN feather is absolutely mind blowing to me. I could literally prove that it’s fallen before processing it. I currently wear the feather (and others) in my hat ILLEGALLY and I don’t care. That’s a law I’m willing to break lmao.
    Edit 2 - The law was put in place over 100 years ago to prevent poaching (and lying poachers) and protect the birds of several countries. I’m all for the law because it’s a loose law. No officer is going to pull my feathers from my brim and ask me if they were ethically sourced. He may however do that to a person with a suspicious amount of hunting trophies. And even if for whatever crazy reason I did “get in trouble” simple communication could alleviate the issue. I do actually collect my feathers for religious reasons, not collecting in mass or for personal gain. As long as your intentions are good, you’ll find a lot of laws that exist may not actually really apply to you.
    Final edit - I’m Romuva (Baltic Pagan). I’m not gonna answer this again lol.

    • @Jacob-yg7lz
      @Jacob-yg7lz Рік тому +324

      Just make sure not to be too showy with it you can break federal bird law

    • @violetopal6264
      @violetopal6264 Рік тому +43

      Townsend has a video on making quill pens

    • @Lailas776
      @Lailas776 Рік тому +21

      “As someone” 😂

    • @Lailas776
      @Lailas776 Рік тому +32

      @Syllashathe lawyer nobody asked for 😅

    • @timetravelingpenguin
      @timetravelingpenguin Рік тому +27

      ​@🌺 Alyssa 📛 thats very interesting, could you explain why that's the case?

  • @fcoxavier
    @fcoxavier Рік тому +4419

    oh wow, things I never realized about my own handwriting
    Thank you Sir, you are a true servant

    • @YeezNutz
      @YeezNutz Рік тому +21

      Gentleman and scholar*

    • @Deathworm-eg5lt
      @Deathworm-eg5lt Рік тому +22

      Servant? Wth

    • @ayushiabedin4530
      @ayushiabedin4530 Рік тому +15

      @@Deathworm-eg5lt yeah what the hell SERVANT? Bro if I was in his place and some random guy calls me servant I would seriously report him!🤬

    • @Deathworm-eg5lt
      @Deathworm-eg5lt Рік тому +7

      @@ayushiabedin4530 exactly, disrespectful and demeaning

    • @MrElliottm
      @MrElliottm Рік тому +40

      ​@ayushiabedin4530 a servant can just be someone who serves a purpose

  • @GTFOTR_Imschizophrenic
    @GTFOTR_Imschizophrenic 3 місяці тому +2

    My friend literally did this at school and we were so proud

  • @Mandassina
    @Mandassina Рік тому +558

    This is why I love the internet. Just killing time, a few minutes while waiting for my tea to steep, and I learn something totally cool that I never would have even thought to ask about. I knew quill pens required a certain amount of shaping and maintenance, but the amount of detail you crammed into this short clip was amazing. Thanks for sharing!

    • @cryonim
      @cryonim Рік тому +8

      Careful though because it's a sinkhole, and if you don't strictly bound yourself, it will drain your focus.
      Thank the companies who have optimized the algorithm to such extent this short/reel/etc. feedback loop is as bad for health as fast food.

    • @ruthmaryrose
      @ruthmaryrose Рік тому +4

      @@cryonim Sure there’s plenty of junk on the Internet, but knowledge of the truth expands your imagination and your mind and is good for your soul. This is good knowledge.

    • @cryonim
      @cryonim Рік тому +1

      @@ruthmaryrose A younger me would agree, but you slowly realize we just can't remember these things, the keyword is associativity. And even if we make a point to atleast have a clue, later this turns out to be a bit disappointing when we can't find the source.
      For ex.:
      You see a cool video on how to tie your shoe in a unique way, it's good but since it isn't associated with any other action, your brain will discard in a few weeks if not days, but say you like it and want to remember it so you associate it with something like say trying it out in real, then it will gradually go out of your memory unless you use it a lot more. But you know the quantity of these useful things is so much you won't associate, or would just think it's good then move about your day and even if you remember the existence of a unique shoelace method, you would have to dig through piles of stuff to find it again.
      If we are meant to forget things anyway, why not forget the most profound things ?
      The shorts are not that, unfortunately. Good for passing time though.

    • @Mandassina
      @Mandassina Рік тому +1

      @@cryonim I can agree with this, and there have been times when I have found myself on the fringes of the internet in the wee hours of the morning, feeling as if I've just emerged from a blackout drunk wondering how I got here and where the heck is 'here' anyway. But you never know what's going to stick until you see it, and the more knowledge you're exposed to, the more there is likely to stick.

    • @peytonhorn2833
      @peytonhorn2833 Рік тому

      What is steep tea?

  • @JoeyDragonWhisperer
    @JoeyDragonWhisperer Рік тому +145

    Wait- THAT’S why I was taught to only write in downstrokes in kindergarten??

    • @smithworks23
      @smithworks23 Рік тому +10

      what century? lol

    • @super12rider
      @super12rider Рік тому +41

      ​@@smithworks23 all centuries. Schools (at least american ones) teach that you write letters from top to bottom. It was weird and a lot of kids just ignored it but it was still a "rule".

    • @NONO-oy1cu
      @NONO-oy1cu Рік тому

      Keeping the tradition alive I suppose

    • @carsonianthegreat4672
      @carsonianthegreat4672 Рік тому +4

      @@smithworks2321st century. 2000s kid.

    • @spiritus1512
      @spiritus1512 Рік тому +1

      That, and assuming you’re “finger writing” as most people do instinctively it is easier to pull a pen neatly than it is to push it

  • @skelly1004
    @skelly1004 Рік тому +322

    Man, how the fuck did anyone invent writing with a feather? Who killed a bird, plucked out its feathers, and was just like “hmm… I bet I could fill these with ink!”

    • @Nerobyrne
      @Nerobyrne Рік тому +55

      I think they actually used other materials first, but they were either not as easy to get or they didn't perform as well.
      But that might explain how they knew the exact properties the feather had to be in.

    • @tallulahraccoon3832
      @tallulahraccoon3832 Рік тому +10

      I'd rather know how they found out how to cure it to make it more resistent yet flexible.

    • @_magnify
      @_magnify  Рік тому +99

      Well, it's interesting that they were modifying feathers for thousands of years before that as fletching for arrows. My theory is when they were looking for a material that was more durable than the reed pen, the hollow tube reminded them of feathers.

    • @denisemcdougal6445
      @denisemcdougal6445 Рік тому +1

      😮😮😮😂😂😂😂

    • @MatthRrrr
      @MatthRrrr Рік тому

      Before that, people wrote on clay tablets.

  • @NightfallShadow
    @NightfallShadow Місяць тому +2

    Thank god for science inventing the ball point.

  • @emccormack4209
    @emccormack4209 Рік тому +87

    Is this the reason that handwriting is taught in such a specific way? It shouldn’t really matter where you start writing a letter if using a pencil, so long as the end product is legible, but kindergarten teachers still teach the letter formation in a very specific top down way.

    • @_magnify
      @_magnify  Рік тому +39

      Good point. Are you a teacher yourself? I think I should investigate this a bit, it would be super interesting to know how writing is taught in 2023.

    • @emccormack4209
      @emccormack4209 Рік тому +5

      @@_magnify Just starting school for it, but not sure if we will cover handwriting instruction.

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 Рік тому +17

      More or less. The downstroke thing still applies to fountain pens, which is what pretty much all "writing systems" were developed for. People got real stubborn about it because if you're *good* with a fountain pen and at writing "proper" cursive, sure, you can write pretty quickly and write for a long time without your hand getting sore. But that's what keyboards are for.
      In fact the way writing is usually taught straight-up sucks with ballpoint pens and to a lesser extent pencils because you need to put much more pressure on the paper.

    • @annasolovyeva1013
      @annasolovyeva1013 Рік тому +2

      It indeed is. Try with a steel dip pen.

    • @spiritus1512
      @spiritus1512 Рік тому +1

      It may also be because it’s easier to make a neat line pulling the pen towards you rather than pushing away.

  • @lyllydd
    @lyllydd Рік тому +593

    You forgot stripping the barbs off of the feather for balance., as well as cleaning the pith out of the shaft and possibly adding a small sliver of metal or wood to serve as an ink reservoir.

    • @Baruch-Hashem
      @Baruch-Hashem Рік тому +33

      Hmmm, perhaps that is 102 and this is 101. I do not have the time for such activities, but it looks very interesting.

    • @1mariomaniac
      @1mariomaniac Рік тому +3

      Im not very well taught on this subject, but isnt the "ink reservoir" just a bottle of ink you dip the quill tip into?

    • @NikkyTikkiTavi
      @NikkyTikkiTavi Рік тому +9

      ​@@1mariomaniac
      That's the ink well, the reservoir holds the ink you're writing with on the nib itself. When you dip the pen into the well you are refilling the reservoir.

    • @1mariomaniac
      @1mariomaniac Рік тому

      @@NikkyTikkiTavi ah, ok, neat! 😊

    • @Dosbomber
      @Dosbomber Рік тому +5

      @Syllasha Which you used to have to do... thus the "pen knife".

  • @madhujadas2427
    @madhujadas2427 3 місяці тому +3

    Those wizards must be really skilled to write with quills.

  • @gokulg9474
    @gokulg9474 Рік тому +207

    Aahhh memories...
    I used to collect feathers of local birds when i was little, whenever i acquired an extra, large feather (usually from Stroks, Herons, Crows an Doves) i would try to make pens out of it by cutting cross sectionally near the tip just so that a gel pen's nib would fit perfectly and fill inside the feather with ink, i felt like a wizard writing with that XD

    • @arushrusia805
      @arushrusia805 Рік тому +12

      I actually have a kite feather that i made into a pen with a refill of another pen and also hollowed it out

  • @jimmytrex0920
    @jimmytrex0920 9 місяців тому +217

    6 year old me with the ballpoint pen with a feather attached to the end I got from the book fair: *”I don’t have such weaknesses”*

  • @teresaellis7062
    @teresaellis7062 Рік тому +1104

    So cool! I had no idea how involved making a single quill pen was! It also explains why I read somewhere that there were never enough of the correct kind of feathers. When I read it, I thought, "But a goose is covered in feathers!" I will appreciate my metal quill pen much more now.

  • @diyanshpatel8828
    @diyanshpatel8828 3 дні тому +2

    Solution don't use feather use a pen😂

  • @tallulahraccoon3832
    @tallulahraccoon3832 Рік тому +54

    We made something similar out of bamboo wood in art class one time. Also had to carve the tip like that. Took me several sticks before I got it right. That was almost 20 years ago and that thing still works just fine for the occasional DIY birthday card. Calligraphy rules ❤

    • @_magnify
      @_magnify  Рік тому +9

      Oh no way! I am surprised bamboo lasted that long!

  • @wkhdt
    @wkhdt 11 місяців тому +195

    fun fact: both of the words "pen" and "feather" are "pluma" in some dialects in spanish. in others, pen is "boligrafo"

    • @Chillaxin1844
      @Chillaxin1844 6 місяців тому +8

      Bolígrafo 🖊️ is ballpoint … like the bola ⚾️,

    • @lordofonions8224
      @lordofonions8224 6 місяців тому +3

      you can find pluma used in filipino too.

    • @Chillaxin1844
      @Chillaxin1844 6 місяців тому +3

      @@lordofonions8224 you can find that Filipinos speak Spanish …. “The where part of the empire”

    • @wkhdt
      @wkhdt 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Chillaxin1844 yeah, and "grafo" means write. also, a baseball is more of a pelota than a "bola"

    • @Chillaxin1844
      @Chillaxin1844 6 місяців тому

      @@wkhdt google it

  • @PalimpsestProd
    @PalimpsestProd Рік тому +70

    now write the entire works of Shakespeare with it.

  • @mamiavodah1012
    @mamiavodah1012 14 днів тому +1

    As a kid in the 80s I was lucky enough to have a short class thing where we all made quill pens! (Only at the end after testing our pens with paint we got to put ball point ink tubes inside them to take home)

  • @JackalXander
    @JackalXander Рік тому +40

    Fascinating.

  • @aeydra
    @aeydra Рік тому +669

    Learning calligraphy and writing with a quill was on my list but now crossing it out with a ballpoint pen. 😂
    Thank you for the video, made me appreciate writers of the past even more ❤

    • @Chesemiser
      @Chesemiser Рік тому +8

      I have done it before and I will tell you it is easier than he made it out to be.

    • @orivalx
      @orivalx 11 місяців тому +2

      It also makes your handwriting beautiful once you get gud

    • @joshuabarnhill1265
      @joshuabarnhill1265 11 місяців тому

      They do have metal blade pens with feathers on them youd still have to buy specific ink ballpoint ink will just make a mess you need thick ink that will stay on the blade

  • @Secretgeek2012
    @Secretgeek2012 Рік тому +86

    "Might be ..."
    Proceeds to describe a more complicated process than I could possibly imagine.
    Yep.

    • @theplaylab9336
      @theplaylab9336 Рік тому

      I mean...I knew most of the content of this video already because I'm interested in calligraphy. He's very smart to not use absolute terms!

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 Рік тому +39

    Get a fountain pen, you get all the joy and good feel in the hand of trying to use a quill, it's better at pushing, and they make them take cartridges now.

    • @myfaceismyshield5963
      @myfaceismyshield5963 Рік тому +9

      That's not the point here at all.

    • @_magnify
      @_magnify  Рік тому +4

      They are really cool. I am more of a pencil fellow myself.

    • @yoyojoseph
      @yoyojoseph Рік тому +2

      Pilot V5 master race 🫡

    • @spiritus1512
      @spiritus1512 Рік тому

      Totally different ballgame.
      The other seldom mentioned difference is that while you can find metal nibs cut into “stubs” (that are still tipped), there exists no such a nib that is also flexible like a quill.

  • @victorquesada7530
    @victorquesada7530 Рік тому +162

    There are a lot of naysayers in the comments, and a lot of those boil down to something reasonable. It's not super difficult to make marks on paper using random feathers, reads, and other materials that are hollow. I think the main point to take away from it is that writing at that point in history wasn't art form, not just a utilitarian exercise. The cost of paper, the smudging of ink, all of the issues that we don't even consider today would have been very front of mind for an ancient scribe or even an early modern one. There's a reason why small pocket knives are sometimes called pen knives. To get things to work really well consistently over a long period of time, you would take the time to set things up right for the state of comfort, legibility, and consistency.

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому

      I think writing was an art form back then. At least for important documents and Bibles.

  • @kenenigans
    @kenenigans Рік тому +64

    in primary school we had to go through all states of writing utensils. Including writing with feathers, it was very fun. We also did like nails in clay tablets, forgot what that was called. Eventually we got to modern pens of course.

    • @hotaru8309
      @hotaru8309 Рік тому +8

      Cuneiform

    • @xyreniaofcthrayn1195
      @xyreniaofcthrayn1195 Рік тому +7

      styling when working with clay or stone it's styling because you use a stylus the mother of all writing implements.

    • @spamtownhamilton6200
      @spamtownhamilton6200 Рік тому +2

      That sounds like a great hands on learning exercise! Thanks for sharing :)

  • @caomouse8829
    @caomouse8829 2 місяці тому +1

    Let me grab my duck really quick
    "FLY feather"
    Oh ...

  • @potato_451
    @potato_451 Рік тому +593

    My respect for the dudes who make the quills in harry potter 📈📈📈📈

    • @thegamingreality1794
      @thegamingreality1794 11 місяців тому

      💀💀

    • @TheFundraiser.-.
      @TheFundraiser.-. 11 місяців тому +8

      They use a different type of quill more likely than not.
      It’s likely they use a more modern one, like the ones I have. Where there’s metal tips. (So there’s none of these extra steps)

    • @_zenith_139
      @_zenith_139 11 місяців тому +1

      Can't they just magic the way out of their problems?

    • @TheFundraiser.-.
      @TheFundraiser.-. 11 місяців тому +4

      @@_zenith_139 he’s talking about for what they have to write. They use quills in Harry Potter. (To write with, and no you cannot technically ‘magic’ your way out of all your problems)

    • @TheFundraiser.-.
      @TheFundraiser.-. 10 місяців тому

      @@ImAmirus ?

  • @xiqueira
    @xiqueira Рік тому +27

    hence where the direction of strokes in cursive come from?🤔

    • @link7417
      @link7417 Рік тому +3

      Pretty much yea, not only feathers ofcourse but the early pens worked whit the same principles that the iconic feather quill does

  • @nir5178
    @nir5178 Рік тому +52

    Meanwhile minecraft steve casually writing a 3000 word essay while climbing a mountain

    • @mango3steen
      @mango3steen Рік тому +2

      lmao

    • @brrrrrr
      @brrrrrr Рік тому +3

      Or compressing 9 pieces of diamonds into one big piece

    • @ForFucsSakeWhyDidYTchangmyName
      @ForFucsSakeWhyDidYTchangmyName Рік тому

      ​@@brrrrrrand then de compressing it back to normal to make a hoe out of two diamonds and two sticks

    • @justinm16
      @justinm16 Місяць тому

      haha I thought I was the only one thinking about book and quills from minecraft

  • @pdorism
    @pdorism 5 місяців тому +2

    I did it when I was like 16. It's fun

  • @fburnsDubstepEnderFox
    @fburnsDubstepEnderFox Рік тому +57

    Back in those days if you were left handed, you was getting beat. 😂

    • @einar2963
      @einar2963 Рік тому +8

      Beat until you learned to write with your right hand

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal Рік тому +22

      person: **writes with left hand**
      church: Begone demon!!

    • @holdingpattern245
      @holdingpattern245 Рік тому +5

      @@einar2963 which most lefties can do, to this very day

    • @fburnsDubstepEnderFox
      @fburnsDubstepEnderFox Рік тому +2

      I'm glad I'm a lefty in this current age. 👍🙏

    • @guccilatae
      @guccilatae Рік тому +1

      tbh even till now I get a lot of comments from my relatives about me being a lefty cause it's quite "different" and by different they mean I am a wierd being or something just because of my dominant hand😑

  • @CarthagoMike
    @CarthagoMike Рік тому +41

    Amazing that this was the way we wrote in Europe for centuries.

  • @sapphirII
    @sapphirII Рік тому +60

    I remember having a metal quill when I was a kind. I tried once working with it, but unless I missed something, I found it hard.

  • @SimonsAstronomy
    @SimonsAstronomy 4 місяці тому +1

    Writing in medieval times must have been really hard
    Imagine copying a bible with this

  • @carsonianthegreat4672
    @carsonianthegreat4672 Рік тому +329

    Now I know why my kindergarten teacher was so insistent that you had to start each strike at the top of the line.

    • @valblazeyt
      @valblazeyt Рік тому

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @Sirisma
      @Sirisma Рік тому +1

      I write in a way that reduces strokes and travel time between strokes. I frequently start in the bottom left corner and end in the bottom right sorta like cursive just without all the loopy horseshit.
      I absolutely hated learning how to write in cursive

  • @ilhanthediamondcrafter9767
    @ilhanthediamondcrafter9767 Рік тому +51

    Well this is interesting to know. I've always wondered how using a feather to writes feels like

    • @placeholder3863
      @placeholder3863 Рік тому +1

      You should try a fountain pen, it should be pretty similar and way more accessible

    • @spiritus1512
      @spiritus1512 Рік тому +1

      @placeholder3863 definitely not. Fountain pens, aside from generally being inflexible in nib design, include a ball of tipping at the end of the nib that makes writing smoother and upstrokes possible. Feathers will catch the page if you attempt the same motion, and are by nature flexible. Very different experiences, but enjoyable in their own ways

  • @triple6keyz497
    @triple6keyz497 Рік тому +444

    thanks BIC. you guys made my school life bearable, and i wish the founding fathers had one of your pens.

    • @orang1921
      @orang1921 Рік тому +3

      wood pencils solo your favorite writing tool verse

    • @dastanbaken6864
      @dastanbaken6864 Рік тому

      ​@@orang1921grow up

  • @vincentnightray750
    @vincentnightray750 4 місяці тому +1

    I was wondering how quill worked LITERALLY YESTERDAY-
    Should i be scared

  • @splnter648
    @splnter648 Рік тому +29

    Honestly this looks cool, I’d put some effort to make a writing station and a proper quill. This seems fun

    • @diamondflaw
      @diamondflaw Рік тому +4

      The Townsends channel has an incredible series of videos about historical writing including a step by step on preparing and using quill pens.

    • @splnter648
      @splnter648 Рік тому +1

      @@diamondflaw ok I’ll check that out pretty soon. I remember wanting to write with quills ever since I was a child, so it’d be a dream come true

  • @davergent1521
    @davergent1521 Рік тому +749

    Writing was an actual skill back then. Now, people can barely write - they type.

    • @MegaGrip13
      @MegaGrip13 Рік тому +46

      and now typing is a skill.

    • @Katwind
      @Katwind Рік тому +28

      As a very slow typper, I'd say that typing is also a skill.

    • @Grouncher
      @Grouncher Рік тому +5

      And even that most can barely do accurately.

    • @quiet2697
      @quiet2697 Рік тому +38

      Just as they wrote on stone, then transitioned to paper, times change as new technology rises. You know anyone who writes on stone? The ineffective method slowly fades, but I suspect hand writing won't totally go away for the physical touch and accessibility of it.

    • @eyeknow8009
      @eyeknow8009 Рік тому +1

      typing isn't a skill at all

  • @Supernova2464
    @Supernova2464 Рік тому +21

    The Univeral S is back!!!!

  • @muhammadhamzamir7340
    @muhammadhamzamir7340 2 місяці тому +1

    Fun fact:
    In islam Idris (Arabic: إدريس, romanized: ʾIdrīs) is an ancient prophet mentioned in the Qur'an, who Muslims believe was the third prophet after Seth. He is the third prophet mentioned in the Quran. Islamic tradition has unanimously identified Idris with the biblical Enoch. Many Muslim scholars of the classical and medieval periods held that Idris and Hermes Trismegistus were the same person
    Prophet Idrees عليه السلام was the first person who started writing with a pen. He also sewed clothes and wore them. Earlier, people covered their private body parts with leaves

  • @tPlayerioT
    @tPlayerioT Рік тому +22

    sorry i will stick with a pen.

  • @annnee6818
    @annnee6818 Рік тому +24

    Thanks I'll stick to my biro

  • @scarofherobrine
    @scarofherobrine Рік тому +284

    Thank you SO much for this! I’ve never known how people actually write with quills, and this breaks it down beautifully. I can add this into my books, now!

  • @10omhz72
    @10omhz72 Рік тому +72

    The more I learn about how complicated old things were the more respect I have for the intelligence and problem solving skills of ancient people

  • @joshuapatrickvidal4954
    @joshuapatrickvidal4954 Рік тому +20

    Also, a not so well known fact but the soft feathery parts of the feather actually rub against your hand which is not pleasant. So, quill pens are usually just the spine of the feather, despite what we usually see in films

    • @tozzasque
      @tozzasque Рік тому +4

      If I remember correctly, in Shakespeare in Love, he writes with only the spine.
      Just to say how much this detail is rare to find that it stuck in my mind for several years.

    • @_magnify
      @_magnify  Рік тому +3

      Interesting, I wondered why the videos of calligraphers I saw just were using the quill and the shaft.

    • @joshuapatrickvidal4954
      @joshuapatrickvidal4954 Рік тому

      ​@@_magnify Sometimes the fluffy parts are still kept on the pen but it has to be kept on only one side, the side that faces away from your hand

    • @spiritus1512
      @spiritus1512 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for pointing this out! If you look at illuminations of scribes in old manuscripts you’ll also notice that they’re only using the spine. I always appreciate when movies include this detail .

  • @pnwlady
    @pnwlady Рік тому +20

    Cutting so it holds the ink is the hardest part. I use any decent fallen feather.

  • @PotatoRed148
    @PotatoRed148 5 місяців тому +1

    Why are they doing all this shit? Can't they use an ink brush like normal people, the Chinese have had it since 300 B.C.

  • @ReikiArtLove
    @ReikiArtLove Рік тому +115

    I absolutely needed all of this crucial information. 😌✨

  • @BitchyBubblez
    @BitchyBubblez Рік тому +6449

    This is why you are thankful to the makers of pens. Idc what kind of pen you use, thank them in your head!

    • @notnemeziz
      @notnemeziz Рік тому +34

      Pencil is ez and better and coal has also existed forever...i wonder why they used a feather instead of coal

    • @keannoxyrenceesquivel2349
      @keannoxyrenceesquivel2349 Рік тому +21

      ​@@notnemeziz yeah but a pen can look more professional for me. Overall both are great.

    • @Mrgold-ic6ds
      @Mrgold-ic6ds Рік тому +19

      thank you pen and pencil makers 😊

    • @sicapanjesis3987
      @sicapanjesis3987 Рік тому +7

      You can say that about everything you use from dresses to foods, electricity, network--everything!

    • @BitchyBubblez
      @BitchyBubblez Рік тому +6

      @@notnemeziz coal was used in some places, but coals main use has always been for burning for energy or cooking. For why we use feathers, well, we used to use bamboo or cane stalks but the tip wore away too fast. Was also an elegance thing.

  • @gagagacha
    @gagagacha Рік тому +19

    Yeah no,, i think ill just stick to dip pens

  • @Johnson_2022
    @Johnson_2022 Рік тому +16

    Likely the reason dip sticks with metal nibs were developed.
    Feather quills were also encredably fragile and not very ware resistant so would have to be replaced often.

  • @BunnyLove5763
    @BunnyLove5763 11 днів тому +1

    How tf did they figure this shit out originally? 😭

  • @valjoy1507
    @valjoy1507 Рік тому +26

    1900s kids will never know..

  • @vinaldfrancis2405
    @vinaldfrancis2405 Рік тому +14

    Glad I found this account which is a perfect match for my specific brand of nerdiness. Thanks

  • @bug3518
    @bug3518 Рік тому +67

    quills are also the reason we have pen knives hence the name, they were often carried along with writing utensils incase you split your quill and need to shape it up or need to cut a new quill altogether

  • @Kyuuwai
    @Kyuuwai 3 місяці тому +1

    me with the right hand of a penguin: 👁️👄👁️

  • @FirestormDDash
    @FirestormDDash Рік тому +12

    This is why I struggled outsmarting Divinci when i went back in my time mobile

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому

      Davinci was hardcore. He wrote with blood when he ran out of ink.

  • @ljpwr3368
    @ljpwr3368 6 місяців тому +53

    Its impressive that someone figured this out in the first place

    • @Robadobo
      @Robadobo День тому +4

      Well they had millennia to come up with it

  • @Tom_McMurtry
    @Tom_McMurtry Рік тому +17

    The letters look beautiful though. I imagine this would make one feel very accomplished just getting to the stage of writing.

  • @AureliumGraves-tv3zo
    @AureliumGraves-tv3zo 5 місяців тому +1

    Orrr just have a big enough feather, and hollow it out so you can shove the ink cartridge from a pen into it, and carefully glue it into place. This does in fact work, I have one.

  • @kirstinmclintock4326
    @kirstinmclintock4326 Рік тому +103

    My respect for feather makers who made them usable for writing just shot up through the roof.

  • @lifefindsaway7875
    @lifefindsaway7875 11 місяців тому +34

    I wish I knew this when I was first taught calligraphy. It’s more interesting when you know WHY every letter had to be broken down into multiple downward strokes

  • @ApertureAce
    @ApertureAce Рік тому +17

    I always wondered why they had us write strokes top to bottom in elementary school