List seems fair. The S+ teams are the teams you expect in semis unless they play each other in quarters, S and above are the teams you expect to make it out of Swiss and A are the teams that have a shot at making it out of Swiss under certain conditions. Good job!
It just means they aren't delusional about where their region is. EU is objectively weaker than NA this entire season as a region. Which is partially due to EU getting weaker and NA improving.
@@alexanderhayward8505 that was a really stupid comment. G2 is the best western team for sure... then you can argue about FNC second... then TL and FLY.. FNC is for sure better then FLY. Then top 3 teams is 2 EU and one NA. Just to begin with. EU has better top teams, and i guess EUs bottom teams in the league can beat NAs botten teams for sure. How in the world does NA be a better region then? EU has better top and higher bot teams. Top 3 is G2, TL/FNC you cant argue against that cause then you are really stupid...
Rumors are that TL are curb stomping scrims against Europe top teams. Fly is probably not as good though. G2 and TL are probably very close and FNC and FLY are probably close aswell. I hope we see those team play one another.
Speak your trust Oscy! This is fair to be careful and everything but where is the trust, where is the copium, where is the DREAM! Jesus. It’s the last tournament of the year. I am just hoping for once y’all will have fun and the fewest regrets possible. You are better than you think, but if you don’t believe in yourselves it’s just gonna be hard. ❤
When placing DK in A you should realise dk managed to secure 3rd korean spot in an adc meta on mid which showmaker sucks so hard at, you need to consider that now is mage mid meta syndra orianna tf are insanely disgusting right now, and also fighters meta in jgl lee sin vi for lucid, if you analyze the worlds patch you might realise DK is S tier probably top 1 in S tier close to S+
well its much but pretty much better than the MDK TIER LIST did that was practically a joke i mean they even put themselves as better than BLG-GG-HWL-T1 xD
@@biechu9867 i dunno about inspired, he's super good ofc. But he really come out as a really harsh personality, from my external point of view ofc. I'd rather have a more funny clumsy guy as razork compared to him. Considering they are both really good
@@vovageorg2497 yeah as I said I don't really know the dynamics internally ofc. But I just think rarork would vibe better then him with G2 :) It's just personal preference to be fair, Inspired would be good too. Even Yike is good enough for me
To be honest, I think Fnatic is B. Yes, they made it to finals all year long in the LEC, but what we have seen is just terrifying. The inconsistency and insane throws to G2 (happend at least 5 times in LEC Summer and Season finals), in which they had almost 15k gold lead, are just unacceptable, particularly for an e-sports organization like Fnatic. On good days, I believe you can be on S level, but what we have seen on some other days is just disappointing. I hope they fixed a lot until Worlds starts. Good luck, and don't forget to always believe in yourself!
True. Like people who actually see league knew that 100T was trash. Im from latin america and i knew we have chances against them, i didn't expect there were that bad to actually lose the series against R7 in the way the lose it Xdd. But like, it was soo obvious that they were worst than MDK and PSG, and pretty arguable that they were worst than GAM (and now with the results, we definitely know GAM is better even when they didn't play each other).
@@vovageorg2497but they did show that they can win against teams like tes, although they failed they had the lead and were in a winning position and could have 2-0 them if they didnt drop the ball, of course from that you cant expect them to win, but it gives me hope that they might on a good day with better comms
You just cant put western teams in same tier with LNG and DWG... they are not clueless after laning phase and they for sure know what to do with 5-10 k lead. The difference is if they make 10k lead against BLG or GenG they will win that game for sure. They are just not in the same tier with western teams. And underestimating PSG and GAM they proly have better chances getting out of the play ins than MAD and 100T. LEC and LCS became almost minor regions for a reason. Few years ago they had 4 teams qualified directly now they have only 2. In Korea and China Noah could be only sub adc for top 10 teams in those regions. Ruler and Deft are not going to worlds only because regions are too competitive. And imagine the world where Noah is better than them?
Qualifying to worlds doesn't make your a better ADC than all the people who didn't qualify. No one argued that Noah is better than every ADC who didn't qualify. You just argued against an arguement that no body said.
@@timbradshaw5481 My last sentence is saying only how bad western regions are. And yes there is people who are arguing about it. For example ppl are saying that 1st seeded 2nd seeded adc's are better than for example 5th + seeded lck lpl adc's
@@dusankrdzic2035 I dont see a single comment on this video that states Noah is better than other adc LCK or LPL adc. Except maybe 'Noah goat'. Which comments are you referring too? Would you be able to quote them and post it here?
They are wearing it. I hate how this org just cannot manage to make a clean design for the life of them. 2023 the aliexpress design fuckery and now this washed orange shapes on the white jersey just look ugly. But it's like I cannot understand, you can make such banger designs that look cool and clean instead they do this shit
feels weird to completely discredit a team regardless of how good they've looked for the entire year just based on "nah they'll choke". like the choker narrative around them doesn't change the fact that they're easily a top 3 team coming into the tournament
@@davidengstrom1458 they are top three I agree, but they won’t win mark my words. We will see after the tournament is over, but I’m gonna put money on GenG losing !
@@davidengstrom1458 If a team consistently fails to show up at internationals, doesn't that lower their rankings? It would be more weird to ignore their failures in internationals just because they looked extremely dominant in Korea. In internationals since last years worlds, GengG did worse than expected. Esports world cup 5/8th Esports shanghai masters loses to EDG. They did win MSI though.
imagine trying to prepare for a tournament, and then you have to do PR stuff, and you can rely on your teammates to do the work. In that situation it's normal to just relax and not be involved.
Complete cope incoming: the vibe looks off already which means the Worlds Fnatic drama has already happened. We got a week and a bit until Fnatic actually plays which means we got a week to sort through the drama and come up with bonkers drafts and strats to upset the big teams. Amen.
fnatic A tier they are still lying to themselves, they dont even deserve to be at worlds, they have shit draft and mid eu macro. So yea, and they still think they are good and had 0 improvement from january to now. Blame needs to be put on Dardo, who is still manager with 0 success, and ceo who let him ruin our lol team for years
other than worlds they performed well in regionals, even qualifying for worlds you dont even take that into account how hard it must be with only 3 EU teams and they had a good turnover compared to last years. So I think the org didnt disapoint and its going the right path and growing talent.
@@andremachado4557 Goal should be to win LEC and any other result is a disappointment. Especially for such a legendary organization as Fnatic. It's downright pathetic that over the last 6 years, ROGUE has won LEC more times than Fnatic. " its going the right path and growing talent." - I don't know how long you've been following Fnatic, but situation has been the same for 6 years. Every year it is " its going the right path and growing talent" and they still haven't won anything. They may be okay with being always second or third, but that's a losing mentality and good luck winning anything with it.
Give me Fnc vs Dk, no macro just pure chaos 🔥🔥
this may actually seems possible. DK and FNC is a fiesta
if this really happens, DK would make another 1857 fr
Name checks out xdd
caedrel in disguiseXD
@@user-ql4ib5zz9l suuuuure 💀💀
List seems fair. The S+ teams are the teams you expect in semis unless they play each other in quarters, S and above are the teams you expect to make it out of Swiss and A are the teams that have a shot at making it out of Swiss under certain conditions. Good job!
Oscar: "I think PSG is a bit too high."
-> Screenshot before disaster
PSG have the chance to do the funniest thing ever now
Flying Thunder God Kunai ~
PSG just lost to MAD in play-ins
-> screenshots this comment before disaster
the first step to improving is accepting where you are in relation to others
They lost to G2 and beat MDK. Makes sense.
Unironically rooting for FNC to do well.
Actually a pretty accurate list
We're making playoffs for sure
hell no
gimme some of that HQ copium brotha. I need it.
Thats some fent level cope you got there.
😅
I hope so too.
I didnt know you could get to playoffs with 1-3
this is cool to see jun more talking
when a european team ranks itself behind na team you know it s over
It just means they aren't delusional about where their region is. EU is objectively weaker than NA this entire season as a region. Which is partially due to EU getting weaker and NA improving.
@@alexanderhayward8505 cope
@@alexanderhayward8505 that was a really stupid comment. G2 is the best western team for sure... then you can argue about FNC second... then TL and FLY.. FNC is for sure better then FLY. Then top 3 teams is 2 EU and one NA. Just to begin with. EU has better top teams, and i guess EUs bottom teams in the league can beat NAs botten teams for sure. How in the world does NA be a better region then? EU has better top and higher bot teams. Top 3 is G2, TL/FNC you cant argue against that cause then you are really stupid...
@joakimkarlsson9942 you're right. G2 then FNC who has beaten G2 this year but gotten absolutely smashed by TL in 2 different series. Genuinely delulu.
Rumors are that TL are curb stomping scrims against Europe top teams. Fly is probably not as good though. G2 and TL are probably very close and FNC and FLY are probably close aswell. I hope we see those team play one another.
At least these guys are objective..well they played with most of the teams so they're the more knowledgeable of who is stronger and who is not
good list actually, very different from MDK's tier list - you can tell instantly there's something wrong with how they view lol proplay haha
They have no idea what VKE about to cook tomorrow
Good luck guys! I like your brawly style, just remember take something from the map after you win a fight and you'll make it to top 8.
noah seems to be really nice guy... hope him the best... only bad days against MDK :P
gl in finals vs TES
Let's go Noah ❤❤!!
you’re telling me humanoid hasn’t even watched the lpl finals? honestly I don’t even know what to say
Speak your trust Oscy!
This is fair to be careful and everything but where is the trust, where is the copium, where is the DREAM!
Jesus. It’s the last tournament of the year. I am just hoping for once y’all will have fun and the fewest regrets possible.
You are better than you think, but if you don’t believe in yourselves it’s just gonna be hard. ❤
When placing DK in A you should realise dk managed to secure 3rd korean spot in an adc meta on mid which showmaker sucks so hard at, you need to consider that now is mage mid meta syndra orianna tf are insanely disgusting right now, and also fighters meta in jgl lee sin vi for lucid, if you analyze the worlds patch you might realise DK is S tier probably top 1 in S tier close to S+
I agree, this is so DK’s meta
i need to watch FNC X PSG now
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TORCE PARA NAO PEGAR A PAIN, SE NÃO E VAPO
well its much but pretty much better than the MDK TIER LIST did that was practically a joke i mean they even put themselves as better than BLG-GG-HWL-T1 xD
2:44 who could have know that this was still too high for them
jun and noah goats
PRO PLAYER'S TIERLIST BETTER THAN ANALYSTS??? AINTNOWAYYY
Please give me one international tournament where FNC doesn't gigaboom mental and I legit think semis is possible
G2, Razork believer 😍
if G2 doesn't perform at worlds this year I really hope they snatch razork away from fnc
I really hope inspired
@@biechu9867 i dunno about inspired, he's super good ofc. But he really come out as a really harsh personality, from my external point of view ofc. I'd rather have a more funny clumsy guy as razork compared to him. Considering they are both really good
@LukaSkingdom that is bs. He is a good teammate, as every exteammate says and very talented player. Big loss for eu
@@vovageorg2497 yeah as I said I don't really know the dynamics internally ofc. But I just think rarork would vibe better then him with G2 :)
It's just personal preference to be fair, Inspired would be good too. Even Yike is good enough for me
Vocês conhecerão a Pain Gaming!
I pray for a good run for this world and Jun god Rell, FNC fighting. :)
Let's go fnatic ❤❤❤❤
Oscar is so delusional it’s kind of funny
Oscar is a gigachad XD
List is fair, but G2 does not belong in S, they should be 1st or 2nd in the A-tier
For sure you know them better than the guys that player them all year Aware
@@Asianglazer101 Go to your own teams sub mr salty.
this vid is 5 minutes to compensate the 2 hours vid caedrel made
Why Pain Gaminh dont is S?
qué diferencia entre los delusionals de mdk y Fnatic
no creo que los de mdk lo hicieran tomándoselo en serio tbh, es solo content
Now i get why we are nog winning anything. Putting yourself behind N.A. LNG and D+ … get more self confidence guys !! We are Fnatic !
To be honest, I think Fnatic is B. Yes, they made it to finals all year long in the LEC, but what we have seen is just terrifying. The inconsistency and insane throws to G2 (happend at least 5 times in LEC Summer and Season finals), in which they had almost 15k gold lead, are just unacceptable, particularly for an e-sports organization like Fnatic. On good days, I believe you can be on S level, but what we have seen on some other days is just disappointing. I hope they fixed a lot until Worlds starts. Good luck, and don't forget to always believe in yourself!
we have an insane habit for playing at our opponents level but g2 is purely mental
Fnatic S+ tier if they have a good day
T1 S+++ for sure❤❤❤❤ lets goo
Lowkey i would put psg above flyquest
a team that constantly throws big lead should put everyone above them ! xDD
4:37 🤣
gg best tierlist
FNATIC WINING WORLDS UR BETTER THEN TL GUYS AND EVERYONE ELSE BE CONFIDENT
Lol
honestos, no como otro equipo que se pone tier S+
Marek Brazda "Well, I don't know any of these, so good look."
pasen a cuartos muchachos, no se les pide ni mas ni menos
la percepcion de la realidad alteradisima mi dog
자기객관화가 잘 되어있네 인상적
Guys, this is freaking worlds BLG > HLE > GENG ☠
MDK below PSG and in the same tier as 100T, understanding lol like this it's impossible to win a LEC
True. Like people who actually see league knew that 100T was trash. Im from latin america and i knew we have chances against them, i didn't expect there were that bad to actually lose the series against R7 in the way the lose it Xdd. But like, it was soo obvious that they were worst than MDK and PSG, and pretty arguable that they were worst than GAM (and now with the results, we definitely know GAM is better even when they didn't play each other).
noah goat
pain gaming champion words 2024
Scrims do not seem to be great, when fnc put itself behind TL and Fly. Best of luck to you guys
FREEZE IS ON FNC??????
I agree 100%
Last tournament for this team. I hope they will win at least a game gl
they will win lots of games against na and mdk. maybe they will get a game off t1/tes/lng/weibo/damwon but not the series.
lmao why so negative
@@luke_marty realistic*. At least I won't get disappointed))
@equinox85 yeah, u are right
@@vovageorg2497but they did show that they can win against teams like tes, although they failed they had the lead and were in a winning position and could have 2-0 them if they didnt drop the ball, of course from that you cant expect them to win, but it gives me hope that they might on a good day with better comms
MAAAREK BRADAAAA
RAHHH HUMANOID RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Pain 🇧🇷
Letz go FNC! OO AA EE!!!! :P :D
You just cant put western teams in same tier with LNG and DWG... they are not clueless after laning phase and they for sure know what to do with 5-10 k lead. The difference is if they make 10k lead against BLG or GenG they will win that game for sure. They are just not in the same tier with western teams. And underestimating PSG and GAM they proly have better chances getting out of the play ins than MAD and 100T. LEC and LCS became almost minor regions for a reason. Few years ago they had 4 teams qualified directly now they have only 2. In Korea and China Noah could be only sub adc for top 10 teams in those regions. Ruler and Deft are not going to worlds only because regions are too competitive. And imagine the world where Noah is better than them?
Qualifying to worlds doesn't make your a better ADC than all the people who didn't qualify. No one argued that Noah is better than every ADC who didn't qualify. You just argued against an arguement that no body said.
@@timbradshaw5481 You only red the last sentence? Okay.
@@dusankrdzic2035 Yeah because the rest is obvious and everyone knows. But the last sentence is just rediculous lol.
@@timbradshaw5481 My last sentence is saying only how bad western regions are. And yes there is people who are arguing about it. For example ppl are saying that 1st seeded 2nd seeded adc's are better than for example 5th + seeded lck lpl adc's
@@dusankrdzic2035 I dont see a single comment on this video that states Noah is better than other adc LCK or LPL adc. Except maybe 'Noah goat'. Which comments are you referring too? Would you be able to quote them and post it here?
Pain Gaming is S+
Fnatic placing GenG first while G2 place them at B hahaha
So when is the worlds jersey reveal?
Bad news, but we will probably play in the White and Orange Championship Jersey
are they not wearing it?
They are wearing it. I hate how this org just cannot manage to make a clean design for the life of them. 2023 the aliexpress design fuckery and now this washed orange shapes on the white jersey just look ugly. But it's like I cannot understand, you can make such banger designs that look cool and clean instead they do this shit
@@alexursu563this jersey is fine, i think the white trend this year is so boring
2016 type editing
GenG always choke at at worldss,HLE or TES will win it all or potentially T1 if they can work magic somehow
feels weird to completely discredit a team regardless of how good they've looked for the entire year just based on "nah they'll choke". like the choker narrative around them doesn't change the fact that they're easily a top 3 team coming into the tournament
You: “GenG always chokes at Worlds”
Also you: “TES will win it all”
@@davidengstrom1458 they are top three I agree, but they won’t win mark my words. We will see after the tournament is over, but I’m gonna put money on GenG losing !
@@Mathias-t TES chokes domestic, they rarely get to worlds. GenG has failed to make a finals in what? 4 yrs straigh
@@davidengstrom1458 If a team consistently fails to show up at internationals, doesn't that lower their rankings? It would be more weird to ignore their failures in internationals just because they looked extremely dominant in Korea. In internationals since last years worlds, GengG did worse than expected. Esports world cup 5/8th Esports shanghai masters loses to EDG. They did win MSI though.
White jersey so worlds is winnable
on god pls dont lose to NA
Is humanoid ok? all video :|
imagine trying to prepare for a tournament, and then you have to do PR stuff, and you can rely on your teammates to do the work. In that situation it's normal to just relax and not be involved.
he is just one of those guys that dont like doing videos and stuff. He feels akward.
he is like this in many of their videos
New low. Love to the guys. But I don't see them even dreaming about winning worlds this year, yet alone making it into a reality.
huma based
T1 is A at best with this new meta
What about the meta doesn't suit them?
meta just changed in their favor. past meta was awful for them
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WTF Fanatic, paiN Gaming is B bro
Pain > Fnatic
dk better than g2
Ya los quiero ver contra DK y que terminen detonados por subestimarlos 🤣🤣
Cállate un mes
TL can make it deep this year i think
By deep you mean out of swiss? Even thats a very low chance
Best they can do is semis with a good draw and if they play well on the day, but realistically they should go out in quarters.
Complete cope incoming: the vibe looks off already which means the Worlds Fnatic drama has already happened. We got a week and a bit until Fnatic actually plays which means we got a week to sort through the drama and come up with bonkers drafts and strats to upset the big teams. Amen.
24 mn
fnatic A kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, pega a pain e vamos ver vcs no d-
bro this worlds gonna be free top 8 for FNC maybe even top 4, just gotta dodge the G2 matchup and anythings winnable
When u beat NA first you can speak whos beatable :)
damn bro give me some of that copium
Yeah bro just dodge all 8 asian teams, liquid and G2 and they will make top 4!
holy shit lil bro overdosed on copium
Why is it so easy to trigger people on the internet
G2 S lol
bot gap !!
If there are only LPL and T1 left, T1 becomes SS++ 🤣🤣🤣
Hola
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fnatic A tier they are still lying to themselves, they dont even deserve to be at worlds, they have shit draft and mid eu macro. So yea, and they still think they are good and had 0 improvement from january to now. Blame needs to be put on Dardo, who is still manager with 0 success, and ceo who let him ruin our lol team for years
Only one more disappointment and that's it. This roster was fun tho
Yeah lets pray for a 2-3 scoreline in swiss stage (with some luck). Then we can put this year behind us
they just rankin teams for a yt video its not that deep
@@loscocosXD you're not that deep
other than worlds they performed well in regionals, even qualifying for worlds you dont even take that into account how hard it must be with only 3 EU teams and they had a good turnover compared to last years. So I think the org didnt disapoint and its going the right path and growing talent.
@@andremachado4557 Goal should be to win LEC and any other result is a disappointment. Especially for such a legendary organization as Fnatic. It's downright pathetic that over the last 6 years, ROGUE has won LEC more times than Fnatic.
" its going the right path and growing talent." - I don't know how long you've been following Fnatic, but situation has been the same for 6 years. Every year it is " its going the right path and growing talent" and they still haven't won anything. They may be okay with being always second or third, but that's a losing mentality and good luck winning anything with it.
Change the whole roster, bad mindset saying that such bad teams as liquid or flyquest are better than fnatic, na sucks
tf is wrong with our mental why we aint putting our self's on s+
gam must be in A