The Williams Dilemma
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0:00 - Livery reaction
2:01 - Williams' target for 2024
4:31 - Make or break season for Sargeant
6:24 - Albon's future
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The Duracell is definitely the coolest part of any livery
Has any other livery had a battery sponsor placed in that position before? Cause it works and looks so perfect in that area
@@WardenCraftOffical I wish I did man😂 but nah I'm just a big a fan of them
Is their ERS battery also desingend and made by duracell?
When discussing the Williams livery, you can't not mention the greatest sponser integration with the duracel airbox
Easily the cleanest livery IMO
@@MrMoose-bl7jv I agree! It's very creative
I really hope Williams can make further steps forward in this season. As much as I'd love to see Alex continuing at Williams, a move to Mercedes is likely the best option for him. They probably can give him a car in which he is capable to show his real speed, unlike at Red Bull
I honestly think if the car is good he is going to stay and I actually believe that’s the best for him.
Red Bull rejected him twice now and he also got rid of his Helmet Branding so I think he knows that he shouldn’t.
Mercedes is an option but I believe having Williams as his team is what best for him.
Red Bull Cockpit along Max is suicide
i think the branding part is because he was sponsored by Red Bull Thailand, the energy drink. not the racing team.
giving the pairing between Williams and Mercedes i do think being on mercedes would be the best scenario for him. going back to suicide second (what we call that 2nd RB seat) would be a very unfortunate move.
@@okami3995 um yes but that Drink Company still owns a big Chunk off of that Racing Team so that Sponsorship was basically still partly for Branding him as theirs. With Merc I don’t think he will get the established and treasury Treatment he gets from Williams as they still have an devoted Russel that’s just as good as him. Still I don’t think Merc is gonna be in the Title fray until Reg‘s change 2026. With the uphill evolvement of Williams I think it’s worth a Gamble to stay lead Driver of a Team that needs and appreciates him.
@@Eerazby the time Mercedes are back near the top they'll be booting someone to make room for Antonelli. He's best off staying with Williams. Plus they're on an upward trajectory
Monsoon Valley is owned by Red Bull's Thai owner. Yoovidha still owns 51% of Red Bull. So Alex is still technically part of the Red Bull Family
Cleanest Livery on the grid IMO
the duracell battery for the airbox is the single best part of any livery to exist. so damn clever
Their great Duracell integration was so successful Duracell has bought even a little more territory on the livery. It’s also the only memorable thing about the livery. A good livery is something so easy to do, it’s amazing how few teams nail it.
Wow, that’s brutal what you said about Horner, I understood it was more about his controlling nature over a female staff member… I haven’t heard anything about it being sexual harassment? I love Williams and hope they get back to the front of the grid, I think the new car looks great! 👍
Yeah, for real, I've not actually heard anyone else say that. It feels like certain media posts want everyone to think that is what has happened, to make it easier to hurt Horners reputation
Literal fake news
@@ThomasTurner-qp8nvit is honestly impressive how desperate people like you are to downplay sexual harassment that you'd rather believe in a Media conspiracy than a woman
Wtf else did you think it was?
@tilltronje1623 Not everyone is a sexual deviant. All the reports said controlling behaviour. Controlling is not mutually exclusive to the latter. It wouldn't surprise that, the news papers deliberately made a connection with the gender of the employee and the controlling behaviour to make people think it was sexual
Im starting to root more for Williams since James took over and they are no longer the pity team, since Haas took that role, but I can still not take a team seriously that held Latifi for so long and now gives Logan another year.
I hope they can finish in the top six in the constructors.
They are keeping Logan because he shows some pace and since he got moved up into f1 a year earlier than intended this is like his real rookie season.
Due to Nyck going to alpha tauri, Williams had no choice but to bring Logan up. I suppose they could have made an offer to Mick, but honestly he hasn't even been mentioned for the Merc seat. So they brought up Logan a year earlier then planned, and you think they should have just dropped him at the end of the season. A season that say Alpha Tauri/ Redbull get crucified for dropping Nyck half way through the season because it was his "rookie" season. Williams isn't in a position to act like a sink or swim team, they have to give Logan a 2nd season.
I think Logan is being treated fairly with a second season. Yuki took two seasons to get up to speed, and he was flying last year.
They need pay drivers unfortunately
What you could interpret James's comments as is "It's up to Alex, but I'm confident we can provide a package that will ensure he wants to stay"
Can you name a source of information for that Horner sexual harassment allegations? Because nobody who's anybody mentioned anything sexual about those allegations.
This is why I can't take youtubers seriously
There would be no greater story in f1 than Williams being back at the top. Albon has that potential and would love to see him stay at Williams
I think Logan definitely has the potential, he's shown flashes of speed
If he doesn't tie all those flashes into a complete weekend. Those flashes are just gonna be more wasted potential results.
What flashes? I don't remember him doing anything impressive
Nice try Mr Logan Sargent. I know this is you..
@@0Synergy qualifying 6th at Las Vegas is pretty impressive I'd say
yeah when going in the wall he flashes with speed in front of his eyes before it gets dark
Alex would also strengthen Mercedes ties to Petronas as they are both from the same region (Thailand and Malaysia respectively)
the duracell is so fuckin genius, I hope they keep it up there, its so good, 2 years up there now so hopefuly it stays that way lol
I'm here for the Williams comeback story with Alex as their saviour
I hope he gets the merc seat
fuck yea dude i think he’s matured enough to handle a top team environment and to be at least as good as george
James Vowels after Albon leaves for Merc "Hey Komatsu, you guys got a dozer I can borrow for a bit? I'm also gonna need some plate steel and someone that can weld. Cool, thanks."
If the car's competitive enough this year, I think he might stay at Williams. He has a lot of passion for the team and was able to lift their spirits back up with some very good drives even if the car wasn't good. There's a certain loyalty and identification factor that plays into that and I can see why it would be benefitial for both to stay with each other. But I also could see Alex in Mercedes alongside George, in case the FW46 won't perform well enough
Theres been no word of "sexual harrasment" when talking about Horner.
It was mentioned in the German tabloid Bild. How reliable that is we will have to wait and see.
@@ronankierans1600It's not sexual misconduct though, it's supposed "controlling" behaviour and aggressive management.
The duracell inlet the best thing on the grid
Did I miss something about Hornor facing a sexual assault charge? I thought it was improper behavior based on his aggressive management style.
Yeah that's not been said at all. Not sure where that statement has come from.
9:37 the hamilton/ferrari contract situation is different than this situation because its the opposite of what williams is doing with alex. hamilton is said to be the one who had the option, not mercedes, so he said he wasnt taking it. albon doesnt have that same easy way out
It's definitely a struggle being both a Williams fan and an Alex fan. I can't see anyone else taking that team upwards, but at the same time, I also can't see Alex being a WDC in his career if he only stayed at Williams.
That’s a bold statement on Horner before we really have any of the facts
I said before and I will say it again - i think a serious sleeper option for Mercades' second seat is Nico Hulkenberg.
They need a capable but consistent/safe set of hands. Nico provides that with some flashes of brilliance in qualifying that were bogged down by terrible tyre wear. What if his tyres didn't disintegrate faster than old supersofts?
He's also likely quite cheap (especially compared to lewis), he's an underappreciated driver that people want to see do well (like checo when he was brought to RB for 2021), and he's aging so he'd likely agree to a shorter contract with beneficial terms for Mercades for the chance at a drive at a top team - meaning he could tide them over to 2026.
He also isn't likely to be a persistent challenger to the team or to george as a result, which would let george cut his teeth at genuinely leading the team while nico would still be able to provide experienced feedback.
Also, nico is German.
That makes no sense. If they had a car and a number one driver to win all the races like RB do right now, then a safe number two driver who doesn't threaten the number one would make sense. This way, they're going to do everything to get someone who is at least as good as Russel.
@@MyRealName right now they don't need a challenger to Russell, they need someone who will collaborate, not cause problems, and not drain their budget. I can see Albon, J can see Bottas, I can see Mick, and I can see someone like Piastri, but I definitely don't see ocon coming over (or at least that being a smart move) nor do I think Leclerc, Lando, Sainz, etc. would want to. Maybe Perez as well is an option, but still.
They want stability, testing time, and no crashing. Having teammates that fight each other is bad for those factors.
@@Ryzard That's not what they want, though. I don't understand why you're saying that when they keep saying they're only thinking about doing something bold and doing what you suggest they should do simply makes no sense in their position. You need stability when consistent race wins are guaranteed. They don't have that. As far as budget is concerned, it makes no sense to get a middle tier driver and get less sponsorship money as well. Just look at everything they did after Bottas' departure and everything they're saying and you'll see what I mean. They never said or even hinted that they would do anything that you just said.
@@MyRealName every team wants stability, and right now they want to get the most out of George. Teams (aside from Ferrari and alpine) nowadays generally are steering clear from direct dunks on their incumbent driver. Look at Williams, look at Haas, look at Aston, look at red bull in 2021 and 2022, look at McLaren, Sauber, etc.
Generally they have a more dominant driver and one that is either generally considered less threatening, or is up and coming, like with Piastri and Lando, or what they thought would be Lando and Daniel, or Sebastian and Leclerc.
This is just how teams tend to work. Do they want a second driver that sucks? No. But generally, unless you are a historically bad pay driver or a rookie (likely both), you don't outright suck. Nico doesn't suck. As I said, he has clear potential and pace even in a Haas.
There's also the potential issue of other drivers liking where they are at.
Most drivers considered to be better than Nico are already in team leadership positions or have multi-year contracts already. That's why choices like Albon, Mick, Ocon, Hulkenberg, Perez, Bottas, etc. Are the main possibilities. Unless Mercades somehow poaches Norris/Piastri, goes with Sainz for a clean swap (which would be funny) or Alonso decides to ascend, it's likely in that group for the time being.
I can yap for ages while sleep deprived, but point being - Nico has benefits.
Do I think he's the best choice on the grid? No. Hence him being a sleeper option - he isn't obvious or the best possible person for the seat, but he does have a surprising amount going for him - including current momentum. When the Haas is able to be competitive, Nico is there almost every time. That isn't necessarily something you can say with Bottas and the Sauber, as much as I like Bottas. Etc. Etc. etc.
Consistency and risk management is also not something just for when you are in a winning spot. It's valuable at all times. It's why people were critical of the ocon/gasly pairing. While it's good stats wise, it's bad in terms of having drivers racing each other and butting heads - which they have. Same for George and Lewis just this season - the ultimate example being Lewis hitting George and removing a potential double podium from Mercades' hands.
Hell, you can make an argument that throwing all you have behind one driver is done *more* in chasing situations. Look at Alonso at Renault, or max and his array of teammates before 2021, Schumacher's run up to his dominant era at Ferrari, etc.
The act of being even and fair and competitive within one's own team from an ownership level often comes more when your cars are 1/2, rather than bouncing around the midfield desperate for points.
I see what you mean, and you make a fair point. But again, I was just trying to point out a driver that nobody seems to pay any attention to in this conversation, even for F2/3 drivers. I'm not saying I'm psychic and Nico is gonna go to Merc lol.
Sorry for any confusing rambling, I'm fighting sleep.
They were thinking about taking in Nico before 2014(or so I've heard)...maybe they'll try now?
It is wishful thinking. Albon being good at Williams but mediocre at Red Bull a few years ago means he is only a decent driver not a great driver.
If he goes for merc. He has to hit the ground running and beat george cause if the hype is real, one of them will be on the chopping block when kimi enters the chat. Hope james really does bring improvements every year.
Whooa there big dog, those are NOT the allegations. The rumour was something to do with coercive controlling behaviour. Might want to edit your voiceover circa 10mins in
There is also a strong possibility Alonso goes to Mercedes. In that instance Albon could go to Aston and build that team around him.
The best choice is to wait for the Aston seat when Fernando retires or leaves because that Merc seat is destined for Kimi Antonelli so I doubt they'll give Albon a multi-year.
I hope Alex does what Max did or George did, build up the team around him(make it his own) and keep the upward trajectory going with the people at Williams hungry for more.
He could influence car development a lot more this way and with teammates like Sergeant he'll be the clear number one to build around.
Feel that Williams is in a better spot right now than Merc, especially if they can expand their facilities under the budget cap.
Also, Hülkenberg to Merc would be sweet. Sainz as well.
I'm hoping that Williams can get a Toyota works partnership for 2026, right as they're hopefully hitting their stride aerodynamically. Then we can have Alex in a front-running car again.
You talked about Horner’s Sxx Harrasment allegations, what are your sources for that because from what Ive seen its not Sxxual harrasment
Does every sentence have to end with an upward inflection lilt like its a question.... killing me man. I've gotta skip sections where it starts lol
It’s all i hear. It’s maddening.
A lot of content creators have this speaking style. It's starting to sound like they've used an AI voice.
I think he's Mercedes bound. Having two drivers of the talent of Russell and Albon would be a strong pairing capable of longterm things.
6:40 well, technically any of the Haas drivers would count as well
I think Sargent does have the potential to step up and be worth keeping, it’s just he needs to do it fast and consistently in case he faces the nightmare scenario of Albon staying and Antonelli not skipping straight to Merc
I think Williams will show his true face this year. The last year car was already built before Volwes arrived. If they really perform I think they Albon will3 continue. The 2nd seat will depend of how good Antonelli is this year. If he shows speed Merc will seat him there for a year or 2.
I think that Logan instead of showing glimpses of pace, he showed glimpses of actually being able to drive a car, possibly better than Latifi, maybe. Probably better than Mick would have.
Less car parts all over the track anyway. Albon to Mercedes seems better, he's been to RB, got the scars, and the T shirt to prove it.
The RB experience may have made him a better driver, but would he end up back in that same place again, that type of stress can be a powerful lead up to failure.
If i was Alex, i would stay with Williams, until 2026 or after when the new rule regulations and engines come out.
Alex Albon x DiscGolfLeagueMVP driving for Andretti in the Saudi Backed breakaway series in 2027, you heard it here first
They’re in a tough position. Alpine are so far ahead in 6th and have more capacity to improve, VCARB were faster by the end of the year and likely to be even faster now with stronger red bull ties, and maybe Stake have worked it out.
They will beat Haas though.
So they can’t really move up the grid and staying still will be really tough
Logan podium this year. remember this comment
Why would Red Bull want Alex next to Max? Marketing wise Ricciardo brings much more and that's at the moment the most important feature in F1. On overall skills Alex might be better but he struggles a lot when a car is set up to Max likings. On a Mercedes move that looks to be a very short therm deal as Antonelli is destined to get that seat sooner than later, but Monster energy drink has switched to McLaren so the Red Bull ties won't be a problem.
I can't stand the Duracell battery on the intake and I don't know why
If they turn out a half-decent car which looks like it's going to be on an upward trajectory, it wouldn't surprise me if Alex (assuming the choice is the driver's) stays there rather than heads elsewhere to be a number 2 driver, regardless of promises. He's definitely worthy of a seat in a top team, but who is going to be a top team in 2026?
Mercedes weren't expected to be #1 in 2014, not by a long shot. Race winners, not competition dominating. It would honestly _not_ surprise me if Williams is a top 3 team in '26, assuming the engine is any good.
Don't think he should go to Mercedes... they want to put Kimi in 2026 if he does well in F2 so that would give Alex only 2 years in Mercedes and then would have to find again another seat... I think that Alex should bield a strong relationship with Williams and try to grow with that team!! I think that stability it's better than 2 years in a top team and then again drama
Sargent breathing a huge sigh of relief that Albon will move to a team higher up the grid and/or Antonelli gets straight to Mercedes. I hope he does better this year as he does have a good shot at keeping his seat for a 3rd year
i dont think antonelli will go straight to mercedes tho. as iconic as it could be, the amount of pressure in a top team like mercedes to immediately perform might not be good for a rookie
also the f2 grid this season is STACKED with a lot of great exciting prospects like bortoleto (which in my opinion is as exciting as antonelli and is too 100% f1 worthy) so the best thing to do is see how it goes
I hope Williams does well and continues its forward stride!! If Alex does actually leave i hope Mercedes is where he lands. 2nd choice i would say might be Aston…
For me Williams always have the best looking cars but we all have our opinions don't we and I want Alex at Mercedes he deserves it he got ripped off by redbull
Its the best livery on the grid at the moment.
I think the best thing for Alex to do is stay at Williams. Yes, it's not a top car, it's not even top of the midfield car but let's not forget that they're changing and also let's not forget the 2026 regs changing. If he wants to be a team leader, the only place of the top 5 teams he would do that is Aston Martin with Stroll as his teammate. That's why he should stay in Williams where he's a clear team leader (and will be for the foreseeable future) and wait for the new regs in 2026, because who knows what will happen with them...?
livery's great, literally all of us like it
i dont care what anybody says but in my opinion albon is world champion material (of course after the verstappen domination years) and apart from the talent that he obviously has, he’s been through enough in f1 to have a strong mentality against the top drivers from this generation if given a competitive car
That dark blue will be carbon fiber after race one. If not before
They need a driver like Alex. If no good driver would stay at Wiliams, there is no future for them.
The best looking Williams will always be that 1992 car for me
I think Alex has a good chance to go to Mercedes, and if Kimi Antonelli does well in F2 he might get the step up to f1 and join Williams on loan. I hope Carlos goes to Red Bull and Logan has a good season so he can keep his Williams seat.
Williams is definitely the sophisticated design of the group. You could think they were good
I Really see Albon with Mercedes in 2025.. makes more sense. His buddy Russell is there & Toto can easily have headache free days managing both. Only thing. It will test Albon & Russell's friendship no doubt there!
let's not fool ourselves here... that dark blue will turn to carbon mid season
Komatsu a brand new sponsor?
Ah yes, black and dark blue, a perfect livery
I have a feeling Mercedes might not be too happy if they made a livery that made people think of one of the car companies largest competing car brands lol.
I believe the up-and-coming team of aston suits better, but I don't see the politics-side of the sport allowing that. Honda can make that happen, so make it happen Honda.
If Williams keeps improving, I would want Albon to stay with them. Red Bull didn't want him then, why would now be any different?
Please keep Albon as far as humanly possible away from Red Bull please.
Love Albon. But he does not have a killer instinct when it comes to wheel to wheel racing and overtaking.
Best in class:
1. Max
2. Alonso
3. Lewis
4. George Russel
4. Charles.
Pretty much agree with you. I might swap Lewis and George as Russell seems a bit more fearless and ruthless than LH. But I can see both sides.
Realistically how long will it take Williams to get back to their 80s/90s form?
Depends how long it’d take for them to really move up and become a top four team.
The top three aren’t moving. So Williams would have to be better than McLaren to bring in elite drivers who can bring them to the front.
If I’m Alex I’m looking for the team that offers maximum years of contract
Komatsu is a returning sponsor not a new one.
I can’t decide on what I would be more excited for - Albon spearheading a Williams ascend back to competitiveness or a Russell/Albon partnership at Mercedes
I’d choose Merc with George. With maybe Kimi doing a longer stint at Williams. Maybe four years (if Williams can be a top six team) to really get the experience for Merc in the future.
Red Bull Cockpit along Max is Suicide !
Why do all F1 content creators feel the need to share their thoughts on livery 🤔
There's been hardly any F1 talking points since the end of the previous season. Liveries, driver contracts, testing. That's how it always goes.
Antonelli will replace Sergeant next year. Save the comment and just wait.
This run up season is all for Aldas and all the other ass.
He should stay at Williams
Erm bit weird that you called Horner situation “sexual harassment” out loud on a UA-cam channel with 150+k subs when there is no credible source calling it that… but you do you
albon to Mercedes pleaseeeee
Rooting for Fernando to get that seat!
@@emmanueljoseph2520
Both are great options.
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Cash app RB is also using white suits
deepfried albon is deepfried albon.
2025 Albon > Mercedes
2025 Antonelli + Mercedes cash (or discount on the engines) > Williams
Albon might leave, kevin will replace him. They'll get sponsor money from kevin for future development
Merc definitely
#AlexAlbon, #Mercedes 2025
I don't think it might be a good idea for Alex to go to Merc. A certain whiny person is supposed to be their future. Hopefully either Williams gets even better or he gets a seat in a team where he can win.
These videos would be better with a different narrator.
all these excuses for Sargent, but I just look at Piastri and go yeah BS
Not sure why people say albon needs to be in mercedes/redbull.last 2years he has beaten the 2 worst drivers on grid as teammates.he is still only of the calibre what he showed at redbull. He shouldn't be anywhere near a top seat unless he beats good quality teamamtes.i doubt williams were more capable than what they showed last yeas as the drivers they had was still poor.
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I hope Williams beat Alpha, Hass, Alpine, and Steak in the championship. I'd love to see Albon replace Perez.
@@SamuelTwum-BarimaAlbon isn't interested in RB anymore. He is a merc enjoyer. And DR isn't going to beat max .
@@SamuelTwum-Barima I can only hope (:
suckgent needs to make room
Sorry but Alex isn’t a top calibre driver. There’s no way Mercedes would ever consider him. He’s become a decent midfielder at best but in reality either of the Alpine drivers would eat him for breakfast.
Ahh ha yes that's why he held Ocon for a whole race
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What dilema? Albon is a mid driver in a mid team. Verstappen already broke him once
Please talk normally.
Wow, you are not mincing your words with Horner. Absolutely love your confidence to speak what you mean. Love the video!
Thank you for mentioning Horner's behaviour!
It seems every other F1 channel is too cowardly to do so
Because nothing is certain yet??
@@erinlucassen oh come on!
When has that ever stopped an F1 fan?
Also, talking about the issue is not wrong, no matter if confirmed or not
@@tilltronje1623 of course it's wrong. Making a wild statement about somebody in this way is completely wrong with zero evidence.
@@tolucogaming zero?