The Rise and Fall (and Rise?) of Jeff the Killer: A Retrospective

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  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +426

    In the famous words of another fictional crazy man: "I regret nothing."
    I hope you all enjoyed this long, nostalgia driven retrospective! Do you think Jeff deserves another shot, or should we let sleeping dogs lie? What would you do differently if you were to reboot the character? Leave your thoughts in the comments below!
    - 4nt
    =============
    EDIT: Just a heads up, the Ticci Toby rewrite has been postponed until next year. Hopefully it'll come out alongside the Jeff the Killer trollpasta that I was talking about at the end of the video.
    Initially I was gonna just do a revised version of the original story to cap off this year's 2024 Halloween Palooza. I don't like how the story handled Toby's tourettes, so I was just going to omit that from the narration and call it a day. But after watching both the Morgue Files and Pastra's rewrite, I felt inclined to throw my hat into the ring and flex my own writing capabilities. I do want to be able to write and publish my own original stories someday, so this seems like the perfect opportunity to work on that.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +14

      Just a heads up since i'm starting to receive concerns about this: I will be revising Ticci Toby for my narration of the story this Halloween.
      This was my plan from the start, and while I had concerns about how that might've been received from purists, y'all's comments have pretty much alleviated that worry.
      Full details can be found here: ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOIQqh-bTZQd3WoamCymc2lyh8-NazSL7

    • @greatgallade
      @greatgallade 4 місяці тому +11

      I'm so glad you mentioned MrCreepypasta

    • @w1ndgeneral226
      @w1ndgeneral226 4 місяці тому +3

      Have you actually checked out The Morgue Files? It's a UA-cam horror series that takes a new spin on creepypastas, and Jeff is in episode two. I personally really like how the series remade him, I highly recommend the series.

    • @goatleg8927
      @goatleg8927 4 місяці тому

      Hey man first off I loved thes video you did about jeff its really cool but you did mess a few thing manly you forgot to Mention mr betty Kruger version of jeff the killer which is a better reboot in my opinion and there is a Nether reboot by David near ho help mr betty Kruger on some of his jeff projects

    • @w1ndgeneral226
      @w1ndgeneral226 4 місяці тому

      @four-en-tee
      Also Pastra is making his own rewritten story of Jeff The Killer.

  • @oscardepaz6805
    @oscardepaz6805 4 місяці тому +1852

    On the note of Jeff the Killer returning, Pastra is making a re-write of the story. It is said to be two hours long.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +346

      Definitely gonna be looking into that, lol
      I really enjoy his review videos.

    • @joakker8820
      @joakker8820 4 місяці тому +136

      2 whole ass hours? It better have some good character development, though it's not a high bar to surpass

    • @PaintSplashProductions
      @PaintSplashProductions 4 місяці тому +52

      Please let it be good, *please* let it be good

    • @SinisterFears
      @SinisterFears 4 місяці тому +61

      David Near has his own series called The Morgue Files with characters based off of some classic creepypastas, and his own version of Jeff. I would recommend checking it out if you haven’t seen it.

    • @oscardepaz6805
      @oscardepaz6805 4 місяці тому +21

      @@SinisterFears I remember his Ticci-Toby video. It is probably my favorite version of the character.

  • @lenizumi3235
    @lenizumi3235 4 місяці тому +186

    I love how the two most popular creepypastas at the time were:
    1) A cosmic entity that kidnaps children that we cannot understand even though it is humanoid.
    2) An evil twink.

    • @pundertalefan4391
      @pundertalefan4391 2 місяці тому +7

      Nuclear lizard with lazer breath vs. Big Monkey.
      Some things never change. XD
      For the record, I do like those movies.

    • @Annihilation_Studios
      @Annihilation_Studios Місяць тому +3

      The fact that jeff is a twink still gets to me. He got burned alive and then cut up his own face, he should be the furthest thing from "cute" and or "handsome"

  • @EmberOldAccount
    @EmberOldAccount 4 місяці тому +700

    "Can Jeff the Killer return?"
    *6 days later*
    Jeff the killer returns in the Pastra rewrite.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +141

      i want to clarify that I had no idea that Pastra was doing a rewrite, lmao. This was something that was on the to-do list almost immediately after finishing my awful Pot of Greed video.

    • @michi6786
      @michi6786 4 місяці тому +7

      @@four-en-tee Did you see the pastra video? what did you think about it?

    • @madanimustafa2679
      @madanimustafa2679 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@four-en-teeso how did you find the rewrite bro excited to see you make a video about it (if you want to ofc)

    • @EmberOldAccount
      @EmberOldAccount 4 місяці тому +8

      @@four-en-tee I know, I just found it funny that less then a week later, the Pastra rewrite came out lol

    • @gg23-g8u
      @gg23-g8u 4 місяці тому +5

      Happiness filled me as I saw Pastra re-write the story video

  • @ataxis8951
    @ataxis8951 4 місяці тому +596

    The funniest description I’ve heard for Jeff the killer as a story is “it’s like if they decided make a superhero out of a school shooter” from meatcanyon.

    • @thevigilant6884
      @thevigilant6884 4 місяці тому +30

      More like "a super villian out of a school shooter" but close enough...

    • @grumpyoldnord
      @grumpyoldnord 4 місяці тому +4

      @@thevigilant6884 Having watched Watchmen and The Boys, what's the difference?

    • @thevigilant6884
      @thevigilant6884 4 місяці тому +4

      @@grumpyoldnord Cause Jeff never called himself a hero.

    • @thevigilant6884
      @thevigilant6884 4 місяці тому

      @HarambaeXelonmuskfans Fan creations are not canon.

  • @nono9543
    @nono9543 4 місяці тому +790

    I actually did an essay on Jeff The Killer and concluded that his popularity is largely due to his "lack of defining character traits"
    Like his backstories come off as extremely generic and cliche but that's all the more reason for his young fans to project themselves onto him.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +81

      I agree that he blew up for the same reasons as the Slenderman, but I did want to explore what actually was there since he's not as much of a blank canvas as Slendy.

    • @rem2102
      @rem2102 4 місяці тому +49

      I think a lot of people missed the fact that these characters were fun because they were up to your imagination. I don't think it was even about projection (in most cases) but the community in general, Jeff was a highlight and he was gateway into it.
      The community kinda depended on itself to grow and every fan was just exchanging new ideas, it was so fun, headcanons, new comics, constant new art, etc. Yeah most stories were bad, but that wasn't really the point, I think it's a very surface level way to look at the whole thing. I also think that's why the community is coming up again, the imagination hasn't stopped and people still want to build upon something thats nostalgic to them. Coming back with new ideas after more than a decade.

    • @Apt23-v8u
      @Apt23-v8u 4 місяці тому +11

      so wattpad fanfic fuel

    • @nono9543
      @nono9543 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Apt23-v8u Essentially.

  • @JocaPlays87
    @JocaPlays87 4 місяці тому +166

    Oh my fucking god i forgot that "go to sleep" is Jeff's actual catchphrase, i genuinely thought he was going to say that Jeff's catchphrase was "I'm going to Jeff The Kill you!"

    • @amaRRA.
      @amaRRA. 2 місяці тому +1

      LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @magicfishhobo381
    @magicfishhobo381 4 місяці тому +377

    A lot of old creepypastas seem to suffer from "This was made by a teenager who was inspired by another story, but didn't dig deep enough to flesh it out into it's own idea."
    Meaning a lot of them ended up being teenage serial killers, forest monsters, and cursed game cartridges.

    • @thevigilant6884
      @thevigilant6884 4 місяці тому +9

      Surprisingly some of them were made by millenial adults, lol.

    • @TetoTetoTetoTetoTetoTeto
      @TetoTetoTetoTetoTetoTeto 4 місяці тому +24

      ​@@thevigilant6884 millennials who were teenagers in that time

    • @thevigilant6884
      @thevigilant6884 4 місяці тому +1

      @@TetoTetoTetoTetoTetoTeto someone born in 1985 was a teenager in the 2010s?

    • @ketomine.
      @ketomine. 4 місяці тому +3

      and a lost episode

    • @SleekBack
      @SleekBack 3 місяці тому +1

      @@thevigilant6884These were not made in the 2010s,more like late 90s and early 2000s

  • @Pastraspec
    @Pastraspec 4 місяці тому +418

    I took this video as a challenge

    • @TheUnmitigatedDawn
      @TheUnmitigatedDawn 4 місяці тому +60

      And you won the challenge. Absolutely amazing rewrite.

    • @Huhahhua
      @Huhahhua 4 місяці тому +28

      You truly won the challange Pastra. Just watched your story

    • @TheSpleefist
      @TheSpleefist 4 місяці тому +14

      oh shit he's here

    • @user-ds5co9pq4p
      @user-ds5co9pq4p 4 місяці тому +4

      6 likes

    • @duskshift
      @duskshift 4 місяці тому +19

      Hollywood, if you ever decide to make a movie about good ol’ Jeff, THIS is exactly what you should use for an adaptation. Never did I ever think I’d sit down for 2 hours for a Jeff The Killer video. Well done, Creepypastra.

  • @paisley2659
    @paisley2659 4 місяці тому +500

    I have my criticisms for the writing of the Jeff the Killer story and general grievances with the plot but I can't deny the fear it instilled in me as a kid. The night I heard the story, there was a severe thunderstorm so a tree branch was scrapping against my window and I was absolutely convinced Jeff was real and wanted to kill me. So it definitely did its job as a horror story I feel.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +55

      In my case, I was about 13 or 14 at the time when I got into creepypasta. I had also grown up watching stuff on UA-cam as early as 2008, so I remember seeing a lot of those fake sighting videos and some of the marble hornet entries.
      While a part of me understood it was fake, the same could be said for a lot of those cryptid hoax videos that still litter the web, so these videos reinforced the idea that these characters "could" be real.
      Like, there were times when I was in middle and high school when we'd be driving home and i'd just be looking out the passenger window to see if I might catch a glimpse of the Slenderman.

    • @carsonrichards9902
      @carsonrichards9902 4 місяці тому +11

      @@four-en-teeI was 13 in 2015 when I first Hurd the story and I remember the fear it instilled in me. I was in football practice at this time and I remember not really sleeping well and after time and I got hooked into the story of Jeff and being the edgy teenager I was, I got into the trend of cosplaying as him on musically and doing what Emo kids did. I fully became one in freshman year and doing edgy stuff and I fell into that other fandom. It wasn’t until after spring break when I fell out of the creepypasta fandom entirely. From time to time I’ll listen to old stories of Jeff and all the Jeff vs whomever to pass the time when I was drawing. It would be interesting to see what someone else can come up with if they ever try their hand at writing the story. But for the love of Jeff let’s hope they don’t try to do a movie

    • @T1redALot
      @T1redALot 4 місяці тому +1

      @@four-en-teeI was 7 when I came across Jeff the killer, ruined my childhood, it was the picture that really did it in for me, big yikes..

  • @SecondBestArtMuseum
    @SecondBestArtMuseum 4 місяці тому +279

    My head canon is that the bar of soap origin is true, but Jeff tells the birthday story whenever someone asks. "Ah, man, it was so sick. There was this struggle with a gun, and-and this guy was threatening my family, right? And then my face was burned off, and-and I chopped off my eye lids. Why? Uh.... .... Go to sleep."

  • @thisisntdana5222
    @thisisntdana5222 4 місяці тому +279

    When I was younger I read that Jeff was badly bullied and that he killed bullies or those who were mean to people. He got his white face from having acid poured on his face. Then the rest just kept getting added on

  • @mikethemarine115
    @mikethemarine115 4 місяці тому +136

    My favorite comeback for Jeff the Killer is the series called the Morgue Files by David Near. It's a collection of rewritten creepy pastas with the narrator being a doctor that does audio entry logs who talks to his patients (Jeff and Toby). Nice voice acting and good tension moments.

    • @Scor_cat
      @Scor_cat 4 місяці тому +4

      I know, right? They're so good!

    • @DavidNearVoiceActor
      @DavidNearVoiceActor 4 місяці тому +6

      Wow, I appreciate the shoutout!

  • @nyancreeperpony
    @nyancreeperpony 4 місяці тому +116

    I will play devil's advocate for Clockwork, because and only because, I think the point of Clockwork was that she was supposed to be some sort of self insert trauma oc. While the story is bad and kinda tasteless, you can also tell through the writing that it seems to be based on something the author was going through, especially the sexual abuse aspect.
    When you read all the gorey details, especially when it comes to the CSA, you can tell that this was written by a kid who was going though a lot in life. To put it simply, Clockwork wasn't made to be a serious story, it was made to be a vent piece. Which is why I tend to look at it with softer eyes.
    Regardless, I hope the author is doing ok. Nobody deserves to go through that and I hope that the ridicule from the larger internet didn't get to them too badly.

    • @thenexus8384
      @thenexus8384 4 місяці тому +5

      I never even thought of this, that's very depressing actually

    • @Tsukuyomuu
      @Tsukuyomuu 3 місяці тому +1

      A very good take. I often look back at my cringy attempts of writing as a kid/teen and find a lot of it is based on what I was experiencing at the time. As bad as it may be, things written by children tend to be a source of comfort to them, thus it's needless to tell them their work is bad. We can come up with our own thoughts and criticisms of the story, but it's needless to deprive a child of their source of comfort.

  • @justhuman963
    @justhuman963 4 місяці тому +156

    Man was just that guy that stuck around. The fact that someone made Nina The Killer who is a Jeff fan girl in the Creepypasta verse.

    • @Cubeytheawesome
      @Cubeytheawesome 4 місяці тому +13

      So, a one-on-one parallel to Dahmer?

  • @BearsNecessity
    @BearsNecessity 4 місяці тому +126

    banning k rewrite is still one of the best extrapolations of an existing short story i ever heard imo, the way it focuses less on jeff as a person and more on the in universe cultural impact his crimes have, its so good

    • @dxdraco1534
      @dxdraco1534 4 місяці тому +9

      I’ve seen MrCreepypasta’s 3 Jeff stories from banning k but is there anymore stories out?

    • @spriteking3944
      @spriteking3944 4 місяці тому +9

      ​@@dxdraco1534 Yeah there's quite alot of them after them. Wish mr creepypasta did them all

  • @MrMetal-xe8lg
    @MrMetal-xe8lg 4 місяці тому +102

    I genuinely love thes types of "someone taking a step back from a previous obsession to give their firsthand-informed thoughts on it" type of video essay. They're so genuine and provide a window into the internet's history, if that makes sense. Apologies if that just sounded like yapping.
    4nt, I was genuinely blindsided when I saw one of your community posts talking about this video being in the works (came for yugioh, and most yugitubers just dont share their other interests) but it reminded me that everyone on this site has a range of things they love, and I'm glad you aren't limiting yourself to talking about just one. Please dude, keep making stuff you're passionate about, no matter what it is. I may have come for Hungry Burger, but I'm staying for you (platonic).

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +4

      Thanks, I hope you look forward to my future work!
      I have an analysis of the Matrix Trilogy planned in the near future after the alt art and cognitohazard videos. That's the next big project on the to-do list.
      Whether it'll come out before or after the Wet Dry World video I have no idea yet. That Mario 64 video is kinda in limbo right now, i'm not gonna lie lmao. I don't want to rush it though, it definitely needs the rewrites its getting atm.

    • @MrMetal-xe8lg
      @MrMetal-xe8lg 4 місяці тому

      @@four-en-tee I'd be psyched for either. Not super familiar with the Matrix series beyond the first, so that'll definitely be neat learning experience.

  • @horrormatrix9080
    @horrormatrix9080 4 місяці тому +21

    Pastras re-write changed my life
    I feel like a kid again

  • @attackonyugioh92
    @attackonyugioh92 4 місяці тому +128

    To this day I can say some of the Jeff stories I have heard were some of the best written creepypasta ever, especially the one where he fights slender Man

  • @laraprisma6381
    @laraprisma6381 4 місяці тому +144

    When I met Tik Tobby, I thought he was just "hey look at me I'm all funny and quarky! lol lol lol!", because that's all I saw about him most in comics and fan animations, but then I discovered his original story and I was like..... WHY DID PEOPLE GET THAT HE WAS QUARKY???? HE IS TRAGIC AND HIS CONDITION IS SOMETHING REAL AND SERIOUS!!! HOW DID PEOPLE TAKE THIS CHARACTER AND TURN HIM INTO A SILLY COMIC RELIEF CHARACTER???

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +61

      I personally blame the whole "lol random humor" attitude that was prevalent at the time online. Meme culture back then was basically synonymous with being a user on the internet, whereas nowadays memes have gone so far off the deep end that its a lot easier to separate it from normal online discourse.
      Its definitely one of the challenges i'm gonna have to face when i get around to narrating Ticci Toby. I need to convey in my performance that this kid is suffering, its one of the things from MrCreepyPasta's narration that I don't think translated over very well.

    • @undefined5083
      @undefined5083 4 місяці тому

      bro ts fake wtf goin on how i get to this weird ass side of yt

    • @morimorizutto1907
      @morimorizutto1907 4 місяці тому +1

      @@undefined5083go home kid 🗿

  • @nathanielgrenier9503
    @nathanielgrenier9503 4 місяці тому +70

    I grew up in that era, but I was never really officially introduced to creepypasta until mid to late 2016. And Jeff was my gateway into that, just like most fans in the community

    • @cloud-9936
      @cloud-9936 4 місяці тому

      Same. I remember my edgy creepypasta phase and brainstorming an OC that never made it to paper. And also listening to lots of creepypasta stories on UA-cam and taking many more creepypasta quizzes on Quotev

    • @nathanielgrenier9503
      @nathanielgrenier9503 4 місяці тому +1

      @cloud-9936 Ah, yes, those were the good ol' days

  • @Bomberboi98
    @Bomberboi98 4 місяці тому +29

    If I were to reboot Jeff, I'd make him look more like a burn victim than a Joker knockoff and probably make him more like a zombie or a ghoul and he would hide his burned or even charred and skeletal face with the hood of his hoodie and he would be seen mostly in or around graveyards or cemeteries.

  • @Creepypastamouse
    @Creepypastamouse 4 місяці тому +36

    In recent years, one of the best interpretations of Jeff The Killer I’ve seen, would be from The Morgue Files by David Near, while being an audio drama, it serves to create a anthology based on both creepypastas and urban legends. I highly recommend taking a look at the series when you can. Also loved the video.

  • @struggler6864
    @struggler6864 4 місяці тому +13

    I think Jeff has potential to work.
    In terms of personality, it reminds me of Freddy Krueger and Chucky: a fucked-up serial killer with a twisted sense of dark humor who cusses up a storm. Watching those types of slasher villains is always fun.

  • @kameronbailey6939
    @kameronbailey6939 4 місяці тому +87

    Marble Hornets, Mr. Betty Kruegher, David Near, and K. Banning have done a fantastic job in making Jeff and Creepypasta (or as I like to call it the Slenderverse.) as a whole horrific, terrifying, and nightmarish as it's supposed to be.

    • @harryfleutv666
      @harryfleutv666 4 місяці тому

      Finally someone mentioned mbk and David Near! Also, when did Marble Hornets do anything with Jeff?

    • @kameronbailey6939
      @kameronbailey6939 4 місяці тому

      @harryfleutv666 Have to give shootouts to the 2 people that made me get back into the Fandom. Oh, they didn't, but they did install my fear and intrigued back about Slenderman along with Hoodie and Masky since at the time I was going by the fanon takes. (a HORRIBLE mistake that I will always regret.)

  • @fluxcptndavey4378
    @fluxcptndavey4378 4 місяці тому +17

    I just finished listening to Pastra's Rewtie of Jeff the Killer and I gotta say it makes Jeff way scarier than the OG creepypasta turinging him frkm a Victim of Targeted harassment, to an actual intelligent monster.
    Please give it a listen it does so much right.

  • @DiamondWorldYoutube
    @DiamondWorldYoutube 4 місяці тому +186

    What a coincidence. I'm doing a Jeff The Killer analog horror series and then this pops up on my recommendations

    • @_adastra
      @_adastra 4 місяці тому +19

      you gonna upload it on your channel or a different one?

    • @DiamondWorldYoutube
      @DiamondWorldYoutube 4 місяці тому +13

      ​@@_adastra my own

    • @_adastra
      @_adastra 4 місяці тому +10

      @@DiamondWorldUA-cam sweet, I would love to check it out when it comes

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures 4 місяці тому +5

      How would you upload though? Will you read it out yourself, or use ai for the voices? Asking cause I got my own halfway finished

    • @jpinkman._199
      @jpinkman._199 4 місяці тому +3

      gonna check out both of your videos, remind me when they’re done please !

  • @toze256
    @toze256 4 місяці тому +22

    jef is the defenition of "look how they masscared my boy"

  • @EmilyAlton-q8m
    @EmilyAlton-q8m 4 місяці тому +12

    I honestly love the creepypastas: they're internet folklore at its finest. Certainly, they aren't very well-written and they don't usually have much depth, but there's something almost fairytale-like about them. As a child I was terrified of them: you knew about the hushed stories of mutilated teenaged serial killers whispered on playgrounds at recess, but as an adult who loves the macabre and all sorts of horror, I find that they did their job as horror stories. We were terrified. That's what made them so fascinating.

  • @xarva6464
    @xarva6464 4 місяці тому +14

    As a adult now seeing the image takes me back when things were scary, stories, creepypastas, videogames and movies, nowdays the feeling isn't the same, 20 now and nothing hit the same way as walking alone in the streets at night, but its not the fear of monsters, aliens or cryptids but fear of a bigger threat... Men.

  • @joshuavis2736
    @joshuavis2736 4 місяці тому +12

    The timing between this and Pastra uploading his rewrite is insane. I've watched it and its pretty great, i havent seen the original in a long time but Pastra's version is well written. Definitely worth checking out if you havent already

  • @SuperFan_channel
    @SuperFan_channel 4 місяці тому +37

    There's recently a short fan film made by a UA-camr called Radical Talent. It's called Ghostface vs Jeff the Killer. For a fan film, it's surprising good, it stayed true to the original source of Jeff. I recommend you check it out.

  • @CaucasianFreak
    @CaucasianFreak 4 місяці тому +52

    Jeff was the most popular in 2014-2017.
    In 2017 it all went down.

    • @FelixCattus
      @FelixCattus 4 місяці тому +25

      2017 is way after creepypastas bloom

    • @Xylospring
      @Xylospring 4 місяці тому +7

      It all went down in Georgia...

    • @velociraptorserbian4364
      @velociraptorserbian4364 4 місяці тому +13

      Everything went down in 2017, literally everything: games, movies, Creepypastas, UA-cam, songs, everything...

  • @doctornagalli3321
    @doctornagalli3321 4 місяці тому +6

    If someone rewrites Jeffs origins, they should make Zalgo have some influence in it. Like Zalgo notices the kind of dark thoughts Jeff had, and then influenced him to brutally fight the bullies. But after his traumatic injury, it weakened his psyche so much to where Zalgo had almost full control over him.

  • @planetriftenproduction2939
    @planetriftenproduction2939 4 місяці тому +14

    What I like is the Jeff the Killer image is so unsettling to me that I can only look at it for a second before I get unreasonably creeped out

  • @TheUnmitigatedDawn
    @TheUnmitigatedDawn 4 місяці тому +29

    Just came back from listening to Pastra's phenomenal rewrite of Jeff and, yes, he's back.
    Pastra turned a joke into a genuinely great story and villain.

  • @darnellharris3480
    @darnellharris3480 4 місяці тому +11

    David near has an ongoing series about creepypastas and his story all share 1 world and his Jeff the killer episode is probably my favorite adaptation of jeff

    • @cosmic-monster0984
      @cosmic-monster0984 4 місяці тому

      FINALLY SOMEONE THAT MENTIONED MORGUE FILES JEFFREY MASON

  • @BurgertubeFounder
    @BurgertubeFounder 4 місяці тому +13

    Something I miss from the creepypasta days is how writers would at least superficially give their characters flaws. These people are leagues ahead of the ass hats who churn out the shit at Disney.

  • @kingsombra4053
    @kingsombra4053 4 місяці тому +14

    To sort of defend the Jeff the killer reboot, I think the later stories were to keep to the idea of your normal horror character, that being not showing off the monster too much but rather his affect on the world.
    As for the cult, that was mainly down to how much corruption in the town was exposed.
    However a story I prefer is the Morgue files, I would highly recommend it

  • @narymnmizrael
    @narymnmizrael 4 місяці тому +8

    Been working on a rewrite. I think Ive found some logical work-arounds to turn the plot holes into deeper lore.
    Although I would disagree with you that he never had a motive. In some of the stories, it was hinted that he saw himself as euthanizing his victims, "putting them to sleep" to save them from a world of suffering. It was inconsistent though, because other stories hinted that it was a thirst for blood.

  • @derp.p
    @derp.p 4 місяці тому +5

    I’ve always felt the OG Jeff the killer creepypasta although poorly made still had one important story element. The bloodlust and anger Jeff felt when he or his brother was pushed is something that a lot of people can relate to and I felt it was supposed to be a cautionary tale on that feeling. I don’t see many people appreciate this, or maybe it’s just emphasized more in the new stories

  • @TheSwinginSpectrfilms
    @TheSwinginSpectrfilms 4 місяці тому +19

    Man this video inspired me at the end… now I’m really considering throwing my hat into the ring to make a Jeff the killer reboot 😅

  • @astrolisgd
    @astrolisgd 4 місяці тому +7

    Honestly, based on how Jane the killer looks. I would much rather her be a ghost like figure than a deformed burnt copy of Jeff the killer. Like how she offers herself up to that dark entity after being betrayed by someone she idolized, now being resurrected with that ghost like appearance while also giving her other feats like that ability to shapeshift. Giving her that more ghostly appearance and would honestly make her just that slightly but different from Jeff, while still staying truthful to her backstory. Just with a slight change.

  • @neuronoc.7343
    @neuronoc.7343 4 місяці тому +3

    One concept I'd really like to see is a version of that 2015 rewrite where instead of killing his parents, Jeff gets sent to boot camp, joins the marines, ends up becoming a mercenary who primarily executes missions in the southern hemisphere, and gains his nickname from a particularly personal takedown that gives him a reputation that he could've never even imagined as an overskilled teenager.

  • @jpietak
    @jpietak 4 місяці тому +8

    Great video! I really miss that early 2010's era of the Internet with its specific culture, Creepypasta craze, Minecraft, UA-cam aesthetic of those days and Diary of a Wimpy Kid movies coming out during that time, your video took me on a small nostalgia trip. I'm looking for more content from You!!:)

  • @Ijustgotnubes
    @Ijustgotnubes 4 місяці тому +19

    just popped in because this showed up, this is hella good keep up the work

  • @verylostdoommarauder
    @verylostdoommarauder 3 дні тому +1

    Weird idea: The fangirl characters (Jane, Clockwork, etc) could theoretically work if you made it so that Jeff is like Dio where he's charismatic but he's incapable of love, so ultimately he's just leading them on for his own gain.

  • @ayah4159
    @ayah4159 4 місяці тому +10

    going back and looking at creepy pasta is truly an experience

  • @Byrdstar6423-un3me
    @Byrdstar6423-un3me 4 місяці тому +5

    Honestly creepypastas nowadays have evolved so much that they're better than most horror movies see: Borrasca and Penpal

  • @kalinaribic6383
    @kalinaribic6383 4 місяці тому +4

    To be fair, Jane did have a rather tragic backstory, because Jeff did kill her parents and lit her on fire. Also, Jane doesn't kill some random innocent strangers, she kills bad people, making her a somewhat sympathetic character. 2 quick questions. Why does Jane look so sophisticated, inteligent and mature? Also, Jeff why were you battling Slenderman in the first place?

  • @RandomTransGurl
    @RandomTransGurl 4 місяці тому +3

    The pastra came in and said "hold on. We can rebuild him... With good writing"

  • @bella_daze3092
    @bella_daze3092 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m here because of the Pastra rewrite that came out two weeks ago. Oh my God, it’s so good. It gave me absolute chills. I love it so much.. and this video is really cool too

  • @RipperFangirl
    @RipperFangirl 4 місяці тому +2

    I so miss the creepypasta community... as a teenager it helped me cope with my terrible childhood. I really like to see the community revive itself fully. And if we get jeff to get popular again we can get the community possibly fully back again

  • @martdarts8916
    @martdarts8916 4 місяці тому +8

    I feel like Jeff the Killer should be more like Billy from Black Christmas instead of a edgy emo teen boy. But as a 7 year old kid it did scare me seeing his face.

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink 4 місяці тому +3

    "A bucket of acid". Are we talking about the trippy or dissolving kind?

  • @menchacism5327
    @menchacism5327 4 місяці тому +3

    Kinda crazy that Pastra released his rewrite like two days after this

  • @egg_lord_gaming9
    @egg_lord_gaming9 4 місяці тому +2

    Personally, Liu is my favorite part of the Jeff stories. Even in the Homicidal Liu spin-off, Liu still loves his brother despite what Jeff did to him.

    • @egg_lord_gaming9
      @egg_lord_gaming9 4 місяці тому

      Also, most versions of Jeff and Liu's parents were abusive and neglectful. They didn't listen when Liu told them about Randy, Keith, and Troy, and even called Liu a liar. Jeff HATES liars. Like, REALLY, REALLY hates. So, with them calling Liu a liar (despite knowing that Liu was right, because their parents mostly cared about their own image rather than their kids), and Jeff's mother lying when she said she thought he was beautiful, so he killed them. He also killed the bullies because he felt guilty that he was basically the reason Liu was sent to jail (even though Liu willingly took the blame for Jeff). Liu couldn't be there to protect Jeff when Keith burned him alive because he was in jail.

  • @CaseyRedgrave
    @CaseyRedgrave 4 місяці тому +2

    Personally, I wish Jeff was some kind of a "vengeful spirit" or something, where he dies but comes back as a ghost and kills people who've done him wrong and goes on to kill people like that or something.

  • @StudioKelpie1993
    @StudioKelpie1993 4 місяці тому +13

    I actually had written a Jeff the Killer Reboot called "The Huntsman's Cabin" which was about Jeff as a 48 year old Man living alone in the woods only to be disturbed by Hikers who enter onto his land, and Jeff doesn't like Tresspassers. The Story would have him stalk the Hikers and pick them off one by one in ways that a Hunter would do to their prey, turning the Hikers into Jeff's Game and when one of them finally sees his face, there was a reason he wanted to be left alone.
    I was inspired by The Hills Have Eyes, Friday the 13th and Wrong Turn, with the idea that Jeff would be this 7ft tall beast of a man who knows how to hunt down prey and ends up using the hikers as warnings because it'd take place before the story of Jeff began. It would reference the older versions in a part 2 and feature a little more backstory but I never got to finishing it

    • @komodomp3
      @komodomp3 4 місяці тому +3

      This sounds sick wtf

  • @ArdynSystem
    @ArdynSystem 3 місяці тому +2

    4:40 I lost it and started cackling as asking myself, WHY THE TF2 MUSIC!? I love the choice of music you used throughout the video tho

    • @San_Ari
      @San_Ari 2 місяці тому

      Yess i noticed it too 😂

  • @kaitlint3987
    @kaitlint3987 4 місяці тому +3

    the joke narrations of the og Jeff the killer and alike stories were hilarious. The Jeff the killer reboot was fun to, trying to give the original story a little more meat and complexity was cool and Mr creepypasta did a great job as usual

  • @Numinon
    @Numinon 4 місяці тому +4

    I couldn't speak english well at that point so I never knew the story but the image for Jeff sure freaked me out, but many of those jpegs did. Smiledog especially. That one still freaks me out actually, at least some of the newer renditions since I'm already so familiar with the old ones.

  • @blobbydubs
    @blobbydubs 4 місяці тому +4

    If anyone wants to see a newer take on the character, please check out The Morgue Files by David Near here on UA-cam. It's a series that's been going on for some time and it features what I think to be the best version of the character.
    I love the story because even if Jeff is the protagonist, the story makes it clear he's the villain from the start. In a story full of simpathetic villains, Jeff is the black sheep, the one who just wants to cause pain for the sake of it.
    You talked about how Jeff dealing with his "killer instincts" could be a cool plotpoint? The story's all about that. It makes it clear from the start that Jeff would've ended up as a killer no matter what happened, it was just a matter of time. This version of the character is unsimpathetic, cruel and twisted, but it keeps the edgy charisma from the original character which makes him enjoyable to watch. Besides being placed in an equally good-written world.

  • @ItsPronouncedScaggis
    @ItsPronouncedScaggis 4 місяці тому +18

    16:56 So sad that Toby Fox's parents were killed by Optimus Prime.

  • @panchoxxlocoxx9638
    @panchoxxlocoxx9638 4 місяці тому +16

    I can't comprehend how we found Jeff the Killer scary in any way, its a shit edit accompanied by an edgy vent story of a (probably) privileged american young teen who probably has a lot of unresolved frustrations that's far more comedic than it is scary. I feel like the boomers who cannot comprehend how they were scared by the special effects of the Exorcist.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +4

      Yeah, i personally dont find the Jeff stories scary nowadays more than I find them either fascinating or disturbing. Part of that most likely has to do with the fact that i've just been desensitized to a lot of horror media in general, but yes, the awful writing of the original Jeff the Killer stories doesnt help either.

    • @Minchken
      @Minchken 4 місяці тому +2

      @@four-en-tee It's a fanfic anyway. The original story is practically the youtube video. It was meant to be a short story urban legend. Until some edgy teen made a fan fiction of Jeff's story and written his fantasies through him. Sesseur got screwed over and you're making it worse.

    • @ermacmacro7136
      @ermacmacro7136 4 місяці тому

      I can only pull from my own thought processes when I learned about Jeff. I found Jeff less scary....but intriguing. Because in my understanding of Jeff, there's an extreme disconnect between Jeff the person and whatever the hell his killer instincts are.
      My brain saw that Jeff was just his body and "The Killer" was some weird alternate personality that Jeff himself pretty much left at the wheel forever. And the fact that Jeff just snapped and pretty much went on autopilot, not ever knowing what exactly was going on outside. Or if he was aware, he was seeing everything through a very distorted lens of reality.
      I found the concept of Jeff the Killer as a mental health crisis as scary.

  • @__another____2313
    @__another____2313 4 місяці тому +6

    I honestly think that jeff the killer wasnt popular becuse of his story , but becuse the time he was written , the emo edgy era helped jeff the killer become so popular , after seeing his story more recently and with your video i come to this conclusion becuse it is nowere near a good story.

  • @Lordmegs132
    @Lordmegs132 4 місяці тому +8

    I always thought that Jeff was inspired by the Joker, especially given the fact that he appeared around 2008 at the same time that The Dark Knight was released. Heath Ledger's Joker has design features that superficially resemble Jeff The Killer, especially the smile in the mouth being made of scars

  • @Bullboy_Adventures
    @Bullboy_Adventures 4 місяці тому +2

    I see jeff the killer as more of a slasher villain (like Michael Meyers or Freddy Krueger) rather than a psychopath with a tragic backstory (like norman bates) im tempted to make my own jeff the killer story where it focuses more on jeff, well, killing.

  • @m3t4l_0verl0rd
    @m3t4l_0verl0rd 4 місяці тому +6

    This is a really good video, i'm genuinely surprised it doesn't have more views.
    Good job!
    also, Horror UA-camr Pastra i think is rewriting JTK and i'm so excited to see what they're cooking

  • @Xylospring
    @Xylospring 4 місяці тому +9

    I remember loving Clockworks' Story when I was 16. I did a "rewrite" of her but never posted it. Last second thought "Was there any notes from the Author?" And been sitting on what is a bit more of an enhancement for the past Decade just about. At this point I'm 25.

    • @Xylospring
      @Xylospring 4 місяці тому +3

      Hell, I still love Clockworks Character and Design after all these years, even if the initial Story could have been done a bit more. For some reason the imagine that's made in my head of her hugging her Stuffed Giraffe lives rent free in my Brain.

  • @Ravensikkness
    @Ravensikkness 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm currently working on a script version of a Jeff The Killer rewrite that is more grown up it's insane and not for everyone. It's gonna be about five stories, starting with a horrific prequel prequel that starts the madness within Jeff, then it goes into him becoming a cold blooded killer and meeting a few equally insane killers and finally bringing about the ultimate chaos. I'm writing it on Wattpad, currently.

  • @samanthag2923
    @samanthag2923 4 місяці тому +3

    Always missing lil ol jeff, since i was younger jeff has been my favorite i really hope for his return to fame in the online space

  • @attackonyugioh92
    @attackonyugioh92 4 місяці тому +7

    The disclaimer was the scariest thing I've ever heard

  • @Hutch2Much
    @Hutch2Much 4 місяці тому +23

    jesus christ there are kids online nowadays who dont understand how huge creepypasta was

  • @owl2458
    @owl2458 4 місяці тому +3

    In the quiet, picturesque town of Nowhere, Turkey, nestled next to a quaint McDonald's under a bridge, a tech support store flickered with the hum of old computers and the occasional crash of malfunctioning hardware. This was where Jeff, once the terrifying figure of Jeff the Killer, now resided, sporting a neatly trimmed beard and a small mustache, his once wild hair now short and clean-cut. Life had taken a strange turn for Jeff, and he had adapted, but little did he know, fate had a peculiar reunion in store.
    One afternoon, the doorbell chimed, and in walked a tall, gangly figure that Jeff hadn't seen in years. Slender Man, or Slendy as his old friends used to call him, had seen better days. His once-impeccable tuxedo was gone, replaced by a stained brown undershirt and rubber ducky Crocs. His once-gaunt figure now sported a noticeable belly, a testament to the years of neglect and depression. Slendy looked around, his eyeless face somehow managing to convey a sense of bewildered nostalgia.
    "Jeff?" Slendy's voice was still eerily soft, but now it carried a hint of vulnerability.
    Jeff turned, and for a moment, his eyes widened in disbelief before a grin spread across his face. "Slendy! Man, it's been ages!"
    The two former nightmares embraced, a surreal sight that would have been unthinkable in their heyday. They sat down amidst the clutter of broken tech, sharing stories of the past and the present.
    "So, what happened to you, Slendy?" Jeff asked, leaning back in his chair. "Last I heard, you were... well, doing your thing."
    Slendy sighed, his faceless head tilting downwards. "It all fell apart, Jeff. The stabbings in 2014, the awful 2018 movie... people just stopped fearing us. The internet moved on. I tried to hold it together, but... look at me now."
    Jeff nodded sympathetically. "I get it. The world changed. Kids today, they don't even know our stories. I had to find something else to do. Hence, tech support." He chuckled, patting the old computer beside him.
    They reminisced about the old days, the chaos and the fear they once spread, and the proxies who had scattered to the winds. Slendy felt a pang of guilt for all the pain he had caused, but also a sense of loss for the camaraderie they had once shared. He confessed to Jeff how he had used his infamous eight pages to roll a giant weed joint, a desperate attempt to find some semblance of purpose or escape.
    As they talked, the door opened again, and Eyeless Jack walked in. He wore a McDonald's uniform, a strange sight for someone who once reveled in cannibalism. "Jeff, I need the-" Jack stopped mid-sentence, his eyeless sockets somehow managing to look shocked. "Slendy?"
    "Jack!" Slendy exclaimed. "You're working at McDonald's now?"
    Jack shrugged, a resigned smile on his face. "Co-CEO, actually. Had to give up the old habits. Times changed."
    The three of them sat together, the atmosphere filled with a mix of nostalgia and absurdity. They talked about rebuilding their lives, maybe even bringing the old gang back together. The mansion was still there, albeit in a horrific mess, but it could be a start.
    As the evening wore on, Jeff had an idea. "You know what? Let's celebrate. I've got some old fireworks, a few microwaves, and a bunch of outdated computers. We can have a little fun, just like the old times."
    They headed to the McDonald's, planning their impromptu celebration. Jeff, ever the unhinged spirit, couldn't resist pushing the limits. He set up the fireworks, crammed the microwaves with old electronics, and lit the fuse.
    The explosion was magnificent, a chaotic symphony of sparks and debris. The McDonald's went up in flames, and amidst the chaos, Eyeless Jack's scream echoed. "Jeff, you idiot! You blew up my workplace!"
    Jack, now truly eyeless with rage, called the SWAT team, who arrived to find the three former legends of terror laughing uncontrollably in the ruins of the fast-food joint.
    In the end, they were taken into custody, but as they sat in the police van, cuffed and surrounded by bewildered officers, Slendy, Jeff, and Jack shared a look of camaraderie and unhinged humor. They might have been relics of a bygone era, but they were together again, and that was all that mattered.
    "Here's to new beginnings," Slendy said, his faceless head turning towards his old friends.
    "Yeah," Jeff grinned, "and to blowing up the past."
    And with that, the van drove off into the night, carrying with it the remnants of an era, ready to find a new purpose in a world that had almost forgotten them.

    • @DiamondWorldYoutube
      @DiamondWorldYoutube 4 місяці тому +2

      This is a good reunion 👍

    • @owl2458
      @owl2458 4 місяці тому +1

      @@DiamondWorldUA-cam thnx hope u liked it

  • @clevernameforever
    @clevernameforever 4 місяці тому +3

    David nears version of Jeff will always be my favorite

  • @Lars_Cobbaut
    @Lars_Cobbaut 4 місяці тому +3

    Jef was popular when i was a kid and i was so scared of it i once had a sleep paralysis dream about him in my room after that i stopped watching creepy pasta's

  • @NickCooper95
    @NickCooper95 4 місяці тому +1

    I remember coming back from school on a Friday of 2011 and finding out about creepypastas and reading the Jeff story. It was shit, but the picture and the fact that he comes at night and tells you to go to sleep, actually got to me. Then my parents come from work and tell me that I'll be alone all weekend as they'll be travelling. Didn't sleep much that weekend.

  • @TRETHEGAMERMAN
    @TRETHEGAMERMAN 4 місяці тому +17

    I'm so excited to see the dumpster fire the Jeff the Killer movie will be and I hope a Jeff vs slenderman movie would be made

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee  4 місяці тому +5

      idk what it is about creepypastas, but they just dont work as movies lmao
      It could be their ties with unfiction? idk. Not even the Slenderman has really worked out in the way of movies, and that character has actually good stories like Marble Hornets, Everyman Hybrid and Morley Grove.
      But yeah, I certainly do not have high hopes that Hollywood will fix Jeff the Killer. I just hope its at least entertaining once they decide to finally make a movie about him.

    • @Minchken
      @Minchken 4 місяці тому +2

      @@four-en-tee Sesseur shut that shit down before that would happen.

    • @toad2456
      @toad2456 4 місяці тому +6

      im going to cry when jeff says "IM GOING TO JEFF THE KILL YOU"

  • @Arkanyte
    @Arkanyte 3 місяці тому +1

    Hopefully this video will inspire BanningK to finish his Jeff the Killer stories 😭😭

  • @moty420
    @moty420 4 місяці тому

    I remember when I was 10 and on a holiday at the cottage with the school, I memorized Jeff's whole story and told it one evening, everyone including the teacher was quite scared, it was a great feeling.

  • @eggsteen3614
    @eggsteen3614 4 місяці тому +1

    Ticky Tobi resonated a lot with me when i was kid, because I also have ADHD and Tourette's, plus a somewhat slightly similar appearance. I felt represented which drew me into the character. Hope someone does a rewrite one of these days

  • @EmperorSarco
    @EmperorSarco Місяць тому

    When I read creepypastas, I was 9-10 ish, they scared me. For years I was scared of Smile Dog, Jeff, the rake, etc. So it's a surprise to me that some of these characters turned on others. It's possibly due to the fact I never interacted with forums.

  • @crimsongamer3137
    @crimsongamer3137 4 місяці тому +1

    This is one of the best creepypasta retrospective videos i've seen in a while. I am so happy we are finally getting retrospectives on these creepypastas, espeically ones that aren't just "These cringe. We should never bring these back"

  • @Roadkill-Films
    @Roadkill-Films 4 місяці тому +2

    One of the best Jeff the Killer stories in recent times is episode Two of The Morgue Files by David Near.

  • @coleyoly09
    @coleyoly09 3 місяці тому +2

    Im gonna make a reboot. Im feeling a lil silly, so ima do it.

  • @DJisslightlyaverage
    @DJisslightlyaverage 4 місяці тому +1

    You have inspired me to make that Jeff the Killer short film that I’ve been thinking about for a while

  • @MinMin4theWinWin
    @MinMin4theWinWin 4 місяці тому +1

    Pastras jeff the killer remake sent chills throughout my body...something that the original creepypasta failed to do. Love the video here tho! Hope to see you go over the new jeff!

  • @logancredille2849
    @logancredille2849 16 днів тому

    Using the tabit tablature as a soundtrack is genius bro I love it

  • @lovelypecs
    @lovelypecs 4 місяці тому +1

    Omg I remember as a kid I was obsessed with Clockwork, it's really humbling looking back on the story and realizing it was never really that good lol

  • @crimer_doppler
    @crimer_doppler 4 місяці тому +1

    I think the best way to write good ol' Jeffrey is to make him similar to Freddy Krueger or Chucky, they're all of the same comically scary nature, like they are so fun and absurd that they're basically self parody, but still you can't stop yourself from wondering how terrifying it'd be if you actually met them. So you just laugh along with them as they hunt their victims, hoping you aren't the next one

  • @Bigdestiny1
    @Bigdestiny1 4 місяці тому +1

    This is one of the best video essays I’ve seen I make scary creepy pasta type content I love to see breakdowns of what made it all famous your amazing man I really loved this video Jeff the killer nostalgia and creepy pastas in whole mean a lot for me

  • @mikedanielespeja6128
    @mikedanielespeja6128 4 місяці тому +2

    Jeff was the Batman to Slenderman's Superman.

  • @ahatt96
    @ahatt96 Місяць тому

    About a year ago I started writing my own Jeff story for some friends in a discord server who enjoyed creepypasta. Sadly I never finished it, but seeing this video I'm tempted to do that.
    That aside, this was a fun video to watch. I never got into creepypasta back in the day, but I do remember hearing about the more popular stories. Jeff is also an interesting figure in that community, from my outsider perspective, in that he's a normal guy (somewhat), but managed to get insanely popular. I suppose that he's easy to put into various scenarios, and he's supposed to be a young teen, much like many readers of creepypasta.

  • @jacobconklin7697
    @jacobconklin7697 4 місяці тому +1

    As someone who was deep into the fandom aspect of creepypasta its funny to see the hate for clockwork because much like pokemon every creepypasta had its own place where someone somewhere loved them. I remember for some reason clockwork was "shipped" with toby. Also most people in the fandom, myself included, hadnt read a lot of the obscure stories

  • @Hollarite
    @Hollarite 4 місяці тому

    God, this was such a throwback. Thank you for showing me a glimpse of my past.

  • @Miku_Worshipper
    @Miku_Worshipper 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, loved having it in the background while drawing

  • @brushfn3715
    @brushfn3715 4 місяці тому

    Man, this is crazy. I remember being like an 8-9 year old and talking about creepypastas with some of my friends at the time. Most of my friends even had a favorite creepypasta, my at the time best friend's fav creepypasta was slenderman and mine used to be jeff the killer, I even named my first Yt and ps4 accounts after him. A couple of my current friends still to this day bring up how I liked the character to the point of naming my account after him, thinking that I was some sort of emo or one of those "nobody understands me, I'm different" kind of kids, which I don't really think I was. Looking back to this just makes me feel hella nostalgic, now that I'm 18

  • @candycorn4060
    @candycorn4060 23 дні тому

    So real, this video analysis is awesome! Amazing job!

  • @cassmatic
    @cassmatic 3 місяці тому

    As a kid I used to be terrified of Jeff the Killer, now I'm writing a horror novel featuring him and some other old creepy pasta characters.