LET'S TALK ABOUT DE-INFLUENCING & KEISHA VISITS! | Lily Pebbles
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
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Hi Lily, for me defluencing does not necessarely means bashing a product but rather giving reminders that we do not need a make up collection, hellofresh boxes for every night single meals nor new clothes everyday season. I watch those general reminder videos and find them very helpful.
Some youtubers, including many who have made videos for a very long time, are just as guilty as the tik tock generation, when it comes to aggressively pushing all kinds of products (and even cosmetic procedures, which is really worrying). The difference is that their sales pitch appears 'softer' and more 'friendly' because you've followed them for years.
@@bethmcmullan7686 agree
Loved it, I also love seeing Keisha in the vlog too! I feel after your second little baby you’ve really found yourself and your style!! And I’m so here for it ❤❤❤
Thanks! x
Who says you have to have all social media apps? I’ve deleted Twitter, Pinterest, Instagram, Facebook and Snapchat and I’ve made the conscious choice to not go on TikTok. The only platform I have and interact with is UA-cam and I’ve curated my feed very carefully. People, use your common sense!
I whole heartily agree with this. I have gotten rid of a lot of social media and I refuse to get till tok and other new ons. I also curate the people I fallow very carefully and go through them a lot. It has helped my mental health!
Yep. You do you.
I feel like a actually gain a lot (as a viewer) from instagram and Tik Tok but I didn’t front twitter so I deleted that.
I deleted TikTok today as it’s just taking too much time from me even though I have time limits, I know I should be able to control myself but… I just need to get a hard cut and might return to it later, but I heard today while in Pharmacy a daughter asking her mom did she hear the latest drama on TikTok and she then explained it to her, it’s so weird to me that one person who is 25 and is “famous” for 2 years can make so much history from a “small thing”.
I agree that we don’t build relationships on TikTok, that’s why I will love UA-cam and I hope that it will never go away from the people I follow
Me too, I'm only on UA-cam and my brain is now functioning as a human being should.
@@chana6184 Exactly! 🤣 For me, it’s the bombarding of products from so many platforms that made me declutter my digital space. I wonder if influencers need to be on all platforms to be somehow relevant? Just pick one or two. 😅
Really enjoying your content at the moment Lily, as someone who has followed for a decade and is almost 40 now, it feels mature, measured, paced and relaxed. Keep doing your thing :)
Thank you xx
If you're not already watching Hannah Louise Posten, and this whole "deinfluencing" thing is your jam, her UA-cam has been huge in motivating more considerate, intentional shopping.
Love how your friendships had evolved from single to family life, you Keisha are lovely mums.
Yesterday I had a makeup clean out... most of the pieces I chucked were influenced pieces from years ago. I vowed not to be influenced anymore. I am happy to hear this & hopefully de-influencing will become the norm.
Long time watcher 1st time commenter. 🙃 I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the industry. I remember that video you did where you diagramed out the relationships between you brand's, agents, viewers etc which I also loved. I am on a no buy year and it meant I unfollowed a huge amount of 'influencers' who I loved but they would totally trigger me to want stuff. But I can't control that on TT and I just find the feeling of wanting itself can just feel exhausting. Even if you don't buy! Anyway really enjoying your vlogs, I can feel you are enjoying them too. :)
I absolutely love and trust your recommendations and your honesty! You are top shelf Lily. Well done 👏
On the de-influencing thought train.. It´s not necessarily de-influencing but it relates to marketing all the same and it kind of falls into why I find the Skin + Me marketing not genuine because you and literally all the British influencers of your generation hammer on about this brand, that the blatant marketing strategy behind it falls into the category of insincere
@Autumn Blaylock true! It used to be Missoma, now it's Mejuri
@@hijlaa I purchased a few bits from Missoma and I've never been more disappointed, not just in the product but also in myself 😅 the quality of the Missoma stuff just isn't worth the price!
Completely understand your point of view. I never had find people genuine more recently than before. I have my trust in some very small accounts on Social media. One of them talked about skin + me before anyone talk about it and I have been using it since and my skin is so much clearer! That’s the only thing I’m grateful to have been influenced to buy 😂😂
I think your questions to ask yourself when being influenced was very helpful and a good reminder to slow down, thank you!
Please do an updated style video with Debs! I’d love to see got your style has evolved
Great set of tips Lily, thank you! As an older person, I’m a little less likely to be influenced by the latest trends, especially after buying the Charlotte Tilbury pillow talk lipstick that was meant to suit everyone….everyone except me it seems 😂😘
Oh my goodness the Keisha section is just wonderful. B&M shopping heaven! 🧡
I literally had the best hour with her! So much fun
100% here for more B and M/Aldi vlogs
I think the deinfluencing trend is interesting, as an older viewer who has grown up watching yours and others content I think we are naturally more aware and less likely to be influenced, as what a 22 year old is recommending is just not going to appeal to me when I didn’t really ask for it. I feel like this is why lots of us in our 30s don’t really get on with TikTok in the same way. I use it but not the for you tab just following so then I get content I actually want
Yeh I agree. I’ve also found some really amazing and helpful things from Tik Tok but I also feel like I know which recommended things won’t work for me to so I avoid those.
Totally agree - I would never be "influenced" into buying a product that someone that I only know from UA-cam or Instagram recommends. I would take their opinion into consideration when making up my own mind.
Love watching blogs on Sunday afternoon
Your hair looks lovely here! Lovely colour and length ❤️
Your love for UA-cam really comes through in your vlogs recently, I have been enjoying them even more than usual! Thanks for taking us along 🥰
My thought on influencing: I‘m really turned off by content creators who are advertising (not just featuring) different (and random) products in almost every post. It makes the content creator and the products much less appealing to me and makes me value the opinion of the ones I have followed for years and trust even more. And I find, as I‘ve grown older, I asked myself the questions you mentioned intuitively, when a product is featured product. I‘ve probably learned the hard way 🙈
Would love to see your updated thoughts on maintaining long distance friendships? I moved country recently and have been struggling with how my friendships are changing and how to maintain them
I would absolutely love that. I would also like to know your thoughts on how friendships change in your 30s and when there are kids. You are 4 years older than me and have always felt a bit like the older sister that I've never had. I've listened to your book recently and I wonder what un updated version would sound like, as I'm struggeling to maintain my once so cherished friendships nowadays.
Omgshh OG subscriber here! Not too long ago I was wondering if you were still close friends! So glad to see you two together agaian! 😍
I genuinely look forward to watching your videos every Sunday. I work without any days off, two jobs and on Sunday I can at least tell myself that I will have my morning coffee and watch your vlog. I've been a follower since 2014, so it always feels like catching up with a best friend.
Your videos are always honest and personal! x
Thank you ❤️
Zero mention of the previous friend , even though they were at the same event . Wonder what happened?
Thanks for the interesting points! I do agree that the youtube content is different cause I trust who I watch. When you said "just because it didn't work for me doesn't mean it won't work for you" I thought a product could work for you and not for me, yet you would talk about it and even advertise it. I wonder what part of it is influenced by your relationship to the brands e.g. not wanting to criticise a product from a brand you usually like or have worked with. Anyway, thanks for always trying to be transparent, that's also why I watch :) maybe all we need is to buy less lol
I’d really like you to talk about your views on sustainability / be more transparent about how you keep your business sustainable, as it is such a core set of credentials that people now look for in ‘influencers’. Have you given any thought to saying ‘no’ to PR products you’re sent which you know you won’t use, or returning them to brands so they can be re sold? Would be very interested to hear your thoughts.
Are you also aware that when people send products back to many clothing / cosmetic companies as ‘returns’, they are simply thrown into landfill rather than re marketed?
PR samples can’t be re sold as they’re separate products designated for PR purposes. They actually say “can’t be resold” on them. But I absolutely make it clear to PRs who I have contact with to email me first to ask about sending product and I only say yes if it’s relevant. I also ask for minimal Jiffy bag packaging as I don’t need over the top packaging.
@@lilypebbles thank you for this response!
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on sustainability though more broadly , for example buying from certain companies that make a large contribution to the amount of fossil fuels burned, and who also invest in them.
Any thoughts you might want to share in a video?
Speaking of Mac lipsticks and being influenced, I still think if you every time I put on Mac Syrup, which I bought YEARS ago after you talked about it, and have continued to buy ever since!!! 😂💜
No tik tok,no instagram, no twitter. Just youtube and a handfull of influencers i follow. Thats enough for me.
Your hair colour is gorgeous 😍😍 You should definitely keep this colour 👌🏻
I remember the time where a UA-camr would have an actual niche and knowledge about the items they were talking about. Actually comparing products so you could decide for yourself if it would work for you. The whole influencing thing felt more honest and informing than it does nowadays. I think both influencing and de influencing by just saying why you like or don’t like it is not the way to go. If an influencer can’t give technical and practical information, pros and cons, on a product for a viewer to apply to themselves, they shouldn’t continue influencing, I think.
I paused watching to go and do some housework, resumed whilst you were mid-flow in the lipstick spiel and holy moly was I influenced, wound it back to get the colour name. Its so easy! 🤦🏻♀️ I have a huge distrust of tiktok reviews though, thankfully my FYP is all Broadway, mum skits and healthcare humour, 😂😂
I so feel for Keisha, before the whole 'only use a carry-on' way of travel, I would bring everything I could back to this side of the pond whenever I went home to 🇨🇦, inc. a huge bix of books!
Great intelligent content aimed at intelligent viewers. Thank you Lily
I think the thing about de influencing to remember (because I do think it’s primarily triggered from tiktok) is it’s not actually targeted at people who’s only full time job is “influencing” because you can be a normal person who talks about a product you like from mascara to like a kitchen gadget and hit the algorithm right and get 2 million views and then the product goes viral. So it’s more about saying hey just because there are now 500 review videos in your feed that you’ve been served saying it works it might not for you, cause until this trend the examples of it not working wouldnt hit the algorithm. Just a thought I had as someone who is NOT an influencer but works in the beauty industry!
Nice seeing her in your videos again! And thanks for the tips.
Lily!!!! There is a new book here - The ‘S’Word. (Working title) I don’t think there’s many social media books - written by ‘influencers’ who have been in the industry as long as you. And it would be so interesting.
I never comment on videos but just wanted to say thank you for this. Love your honest, authentic content. Always know I can trust you, don’t always feel like that with ‘influencers’ x
Thanks I appreciate that ❤️
I literally felt myself thinking, ‘I need that lipstick!!’
Your pointers are really helpful! I came to the conclusion - this lipstick is not for me because I don’t wear lipstick EVER!!
Thanks Lily!
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Your hair looks so good in this vid!!!
Some companies in the UK do accept makeup back but maybe keep this quite. I remember falling for these two Charlotte Tilbury lipsticks everyone was talking about maybe 6-7 years ago and I looked at so many swatches and watched different videos and when they came they looked nothing like that on me. So I sent them back and they refunded me! So maybe more accept them than others. I’m glad I’m not on TikTok, sounds like it will make me want more than the you tube videos always did, which was more than I ever needed. I watched a video a year or so ago from Chloe (OZ) and she was saying how we don’t need much makeup to protect the planet and all that stuff when it was her over the years that influenced me to have a makeup collection sized like a makeup artist! 😂
The comment you made about following content creators you trust is part of the reason I'm not a fan of Tik Tok. The videos are so short and highly edited/curated IMO that I don't feel like you get much of a feel for who the person is and whether you can trust them. The nature of that platform is also that it tends to push you to strangers content.
Also didn’t “de-influencing” used to be a UA-cam trend? Called Things I’m not buying or something
Definitely influenced and bought Thanks, it’s MAC today!!
The best de-influencing content I have seen (which I think was actually tik toks reused as UA-cam stories) were of a women using it as a way to slowly hone in on what she already had. Unfortunately I don’t recall the creator’s name because it was served to me and not someone I follow. But I believe it was a series (potentially daily in January) wherein she tackled a small part of her home and declutwrwd, tidied or reorganized it so it highlighted what she already had and loved, which I think is much more sustainable in terms of fighting consumerism which in my mind would be the truer opposite of ‘influencing’ rather than talking people out of getting more for reasons that may not apply to everyone (like the discounting products video!). But rather then giving your personal reasons for not liking a product, because let’s be real there are very few actually shit products around, and each product just fits different needs and expectations-so one person’s deinfluencing opinion on a specific product might actually sell someone on a product (like if a foundation is too high coverage for the reviewer, but the viewer/consumers was looking for high coverage-same with makeup finishes, or colour preferences.) whereas most people own things because at one point (and especially after over 10 years with UA-cam/social media influencers existing) many people have already bought products on recommendation but simply forgot about them or are seeking novelty-and sometimes a declutter r reorganization can rekindle a love for what one already owns
Sunday breakfast time here in Jamaica
& Thats exactly how I shop in the US when I'm coming home
I would have needed this video before I ordered the damn lipstick 😂
Lily I know you have shared insecurities about your moles/birthmarks but let me just say I think they are so beautiful.
Love your videos!❤❤❤
Lol deinfluencing. I bought the MAC lipstick yesterday because you told me to. But that’s built on years of trust!
I follow less and less makeup world people, for example I kind of naturally go through all this sort of points, I always open a tab on my phone with anything beauty clothing etc, and then go back to it and sometimes I’m like “what I was thinking!” For lipsticks I really want a brownish lipstick but MERIT is coming to the UK so… I’d rather wait! I hope we get some reviews from you 😊
Thank you, I liked those tips. I try not to get sucked in too but it is hard
Really like that screen in the loft. Has she said where that’s from?
Great topic. Well done
is 'thanks it's mac' similar to patisserie by mac?
Ooh Lily! What shades of the hourglass foundation do you use?? I always get them when they’re too orange! 🤣🤣
This made me think of one of the things I was influenced to buy from your recommendation is the long handled shoe horn and is so handy. 😂 My mum ended up purchasing for each of my grandparents too
Omg 🤣
Hi lovely! Greetings from the America. What water bottle are you using?
I watch YT in the shower. I have a pop socket on my phone and a pop socket holder in there 🤣
hey lily!
What shade do you wear in the Hourglass foundation?
Team making dinner here 😊
I'm in the UK and some brands do let you return makeup if you've tried it
Ooh interesting! Maybe it’s just something they don’t shout about
Probably feels more overwhelming on Tik Tok as it’s more fast paced
Chuckling that you went to B&M... I always used to think you said B&M when you were talking about your clothes from ME+EM and got so confused 😂
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most deinfluencing videos I've seen are people telling me to buy something that is apparently better than the overhyped product
Lol. Goes and orders thanks it’s mac 😅❤
Happy Sunda6
You have gone up 40 billion squillion percent in my opinion with your desire for chocolate to be mint or orange flavoured. That is utterly correctly 😉
Also you raise an interesting point about the influencing aspect of what folks like yourself do. It’s all about trust. Do I trust your judgement? Do I find you generally negative or positive in your videos? Do you come across as balanced? Personally I’d rather not be exposed to negative stuff - there’s enough already in the world to be negative about - but I like to have a genuine opinion. I believe we get that from you.
Plus the orange/mint choc thing. Totally on song there.
Such an interesting topic in the beginning. To a certain extend, you’re preventing “slowing” down the sale of whatever you’re recommending? But, I think you intrinsically see the purpose! Soo thankful!
Soo refreshing.. and the amount of honestly and care for ur viewers!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for sharing
2. Is Keisha the model friend from New York? I watch the UA-cam many many years ago. That’s how long I’ve been watching u
Keep doing ur amazing weekly vlog
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Thank you ❤ Yes, Keisha the model ☺️
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