Good afternoon, can you advise me? Barbarian (PVP) with Maw of the deep (5) Fervent fang 10) Forezen heart (5) Jade (4 near 5) Bottled hope (4) Pain Clasp (6) Mother lament (6) and Seeping Bile (4) with auxiliary gem Starfire. Is it worth changing any of them for the new one? Is it better to seeping bile with the auxiliary gem or without it? I look forward to your response! Thank you very much in advance and thank you for your videos.
I would personally swap out the Maw of the Deep, as it doesn't provide any real damage, and most players use it more for crowd control. In many cases, Enemy players can also easily dodge it. I would make the gem dormant (meaning extracting its gem power) and use it to upgrade Mourneskull. This could increase damage every 20 seconds, and as a Barbarian fighting in close combat, the spirits will also attack nearby players. Frozen Heart can also be replaced, but only if you think you don't need the extra shields and believe that damage would be more beneficial.
In my personal opinion, yes. The reason for that is that Vithis does not work with Mother's Lament at the moment, but it does work with Roiling. You can stack up some Crit Chance by having it on your gear pieces, and if you're lucky, you can obtain it from legendary runes as well. In PVE, the most popular Paragon tree also provides some Crit Chance, and the 4-piece Banquet set can be added for even more. For PVP, again, you can get Crit Chance from gear pieces, Roiling, runes, and the Gladiator Paragon tree, especially when you stack up a few kills. So, replacement can be done, but the difference in damage may not be significant. However, Vithis does work with Mourneskull.
@@ApollyonGamingi have heard mixture from others regarding Vithu n Mother Lament. Some say it does some say it doesn't. Are you sure it doesnt work with Vithu, ML?
Would this bw good for blood knight? I currently have the below in use. Shoumd i replace any of these? Gems in use. Rank6 Pain Clasp Quality 2, rank 4 Starfire Share Quality 3, rank3 gloom cast quality 2, rank 5 vipers bite quality 2, rank 5 volatility shard quality 2, rank 6 igneous scorn quality 2, rank 6 mothers lament quality 2. I replaceed rank 5 fang with rolling consequence quality 3. Trying to get save platinum for sleeping bile quality 3, gloom cast quality 3 and BSJ.
3:53 Notice how the Vile Spirits only launched for the first 4 seconds of the gem's activation. Since you have Vithu's, it should be at least 7 seconds. I have noticed this bug as well, but it disappears after relogin to the game. Can you notify the developers about this bug?
@@ApollyonGaming I can confirm it happens, but not always. Possibly relogin fixed it. Even later on in your video, it happened again, except it was even shorter (3 seconds).
You choose. They drop weapon skins for classes and once a class is obtained, its removed from drop pool, so I farmed it until I had all 8 classes weapon skins and can now ignore.
I got 4 of the 8 weapon skins and 8 legendary essences from farming Lich King for like 15 minutes yesterday. I'm gonna keep farming him until I get the last 4 weapon skins and for essence farming. It takes less than 2 minutes in a party of 4. It's a neat little fight.
Dang, that's a tough one. But it's possible in a lot of cases that Seeping Bile doesn't even get triggered all that much, especially with hit-and-run tactics. Since Viper + Everlasting are needed to make the most out of Bile, especially in PvP. But then again, rank 8 5/5 gives enough life/damage that it can easily rival even rank 10 Mourneskull damage. So, definitely, testing will be needed to determine if the difference is worth it or not.
@@ApollyonGaming every 20 resonance gives you 1% extra life and damage. Example 1: ferver fang lvl 10 giving you 300 rez + (24% damage = 480 rez) so any 2 star gems equals 780 rezo without counting its power. Example 2: a 5/5 phoenix ashes that do not increase your damage but give you 800 reso is already better than any 2 star gem lvl 10 for damage
Hey Apollion Thanks for the great info. Now, as an FTP player, I was thinking of changing one of my one-star (berserker or blessed) for this one, but I'm just wondering if it's right. Berserker is 16% plain damage, and blessed helps me keep 100% uptime on all my skills on all my builds as a crusader, or, as you say, go for the vipers instead.
Viper+clasp is the best combo for for pretty much any build/class/reso. Pebble and bezerkers are great for pve only. Yes mourne gives more dmg%, but the 6s duration plus the stipulation of having to be near multiple targets makes it look sub par for pvp and bosses.
I have berserker eye, everlasting, blessed pebble, pain clasp, viper bite, seeping bile, eye of unyielding, fervent fang. So I should switch it for viper bite?
I didn't do that because, against a dummy, it only drains 1 soul, and the max damage stacks can't be reached. So maybe I'll do it later when I increase the rank a bit more.
@ApollyonGaming well yaa but if it does 11% more that that should be proof enough. I did with my same gem setup and then switch viper with this gem and damage went from 56M to 60M.
@@stronghold8162 Against a Viper, it would be better-especially against multiple enemies. Viper is mostly used for a DoT setup in PVP with Seeping Bile and Everlasting to feed the Grace set for additional hits. In a PVE setup, Mourneskull will easily outperform Viper Bite, and the difference will be even greater at higher ranks."
Great showcasing, testing, and analysis! You mention 100% beneficial effects duration. Is there a BED cap, or were you just mentioning that as an easy example to calculate?
The duration of the beneficial effects is most likely not capped, but reaching 100% effectiveness isn't easy. It's difficult to test, and there has been no confirmation from the developers when asked.
If your Gloom is rank 5 or below, then yes. Mourneskull increases the damage of Summons/Primary skills, and if you can rank it up to 8, it will give very solid results. But if your Gloom is at a high rank, then some testing will be needed.
Oh, yes. Between those two gems, Mourneskull, will wins. But compare to Fervent Fang and Pain Clasp, result will be much closer. But it still one of the top 2-Star Gem now.
Hi, I'm a wizard with 4 peace Banquet and the same Reforge Attributes as you. I'm really hesitate if I should switch any of my legendary gem with Mourneskull. Here is the gem and it's level I have now: Starfire Shard(5), Blood-Soaked Jade(4), Roiling Consequence(4), Bottled Hope(4), Sleeping Bile(4), Mother's Lament(10), Viper's Bite(8), and Pain Clasp(7) If I switch to Mourneskull, it's probably gonna be level 7 Thanks so much for your advice!
I would personally switch out Starfire for Mourneskull. You will lose resonance, but you’ll gain damage. To test this, go to the training dummy, remove all legendary gems, and then equip Starfire. Use all your abilities (primary and skills) for 1 minute and note the damage output. Afterward, remove Starfire and equip Mourneskull, then run the same test and compare the damage to see how much of a difference there is.
@@ApollyonGaming Thank you so much for your advice. This is actually the direction I’m seriously considering, especially after watching your previous video. However, I do have one consideration about the dummy test. Because one of the strong feature of Mourneskull is the damage increase after drained 3 enemies. But there’s only 2 in the dummy area, would it be not accurate?
@@joechen321 That is true. But keep one thing in mind: when it comes to single-target damage, it will still give you a proper result, since in some scenarios, you'll be fighting only one target. So, it will give you a true single-target damage result. If that is something you would consider good, then you know gem will be even better vs multiple targets.
Good content Apo! The only thing that worries me is if we will be able to obtain it after December 11th :/ cuz I dont think I can manage to rank it to 10 by then.
They'll likely include it in the battle pass as an option, like fang, grim rhythm and pearls. I wouldn't expect it to be available straight after 11/12 though. Blizzese will want this gem to be exclusive, at least for the time. Hence why you can buy them from the shop now.
i broke my rank 4 3/5 void spark for this one rank 5, i ssaw nice dmg boost even if i lost 170 reso, i am low spender so i find it very useful to boost it more ranks easily!!
I’m not going to witch out any of my 5* gems to this 2* gems on my main due to the cool down. I been playing on my alt to test it out and seems to be working well with other 2* gems. Definitely best for newer players not as effective for veterans.
The gem isn't than powerfull like every paint it i have already in level 7 and my berserker eye have better damage in a several times and remember that gem is just for every 20 min another gems had increased damage all the time.
3.5k Reso And Almost Free2Play Players 5Mins Gauntlet 3 - FULL RUN ua-cam.com/video/qIHynJZ7V0A/v-deo.html
Love the info. Definitely helps when making a decision. Around the hype of a new stone
Good afternoon,
can you advise me? Barbarian (PVP) with Maw of the deep (5) Fervent fang 10) Forezen heart (5) Jade (4 near 5) Bottled hope (4) Pain Clasp (6) Mother lament (6) and Seeping Bile (4) with auxiliary gem Starfire.
Is it worth changing any of them for the new one?
Is it better to seeping bile with the auxiliary gem or without it?
I look forward to your response! Thank you very much in advance and thank you for your videos.
I would personally swap out the Maw of the Deep, as it doesn't provide any real damage, and most players use it more for crowd control. In many cases, Enemy players can also easily dodge it. I would make the gem dormant (meaning extracting its gem power) and use it to upgrade Mourneskull. This could increase damage every 20 seconds, and as a Barbarian fighting in close combat, the spirits will also attack nearby players.
Frozen Heart can also be replaced, but only if you think you don't need the extra shields and believe that damage would be more beneficial.
hi go watch @Indez and @Craine-plays for more barb info
It is good for wiz as pvp gem ?
Hello, what do the royal dominion 'stacks' correspond to? You have 3 on dummy (only 1 target), and 4 in rift (10 targets and +)
Should i replace my R10 Power & Command with this at Rank 10?
This would a decent change.
Can this gem replace mothers lament if you also have roilling consequence?
In my personal opinion, yes. The reason for that is that Vithis does not work with Mother's Lament at the moment, but it does work with Roiling. You can stack up some Crit Chance by having it on your gear pieces, and if you're lucky, you can obtain it from legendary runes as well. In PVE, the most popular Paragon tree also provides some Crit Chance, and the 4-piece Banquet set can be added for even more.
For PVP, again, you can get Crit Chance from gear pieces, Roiling, runes, and the Gladiator Paragon tree, especially when you stack up a few kills.
So, replacement can be done, but the difference in damage may not be significant. However, Vithis does work with Mourneskull.
@@ApollyonGamingwhat u talking about vithis sorry i m newbie
@@bbbet5896Green secondary gear set called Vithu, it gives you +30% beneficial duration effect
@@bbbet5896 vihtus urges accesory
@@ApollyonGamingi have heard mixture from others regarding Vithu n Mother Lament. Some say it does some say it doesn't. Are you sure it doesnt work with Vithu, ML?
should i swap my blood reach for this? i use necro and my pvp build is grim syct, wraithform, corpse lance, borrowed time🤔
Would this bw good for blood knight? I currently have the below in use. Shoumd i replace any of these?
Gems in use. Rank6 Pain Clasp Quality 2, rank 4 Starfire Share Quality 3, rank3 gloom cast quality 2, rank 5 vipers bite quality 2, rank 5 volatility shard quality 2, rank 6 igneous scorn quality 2, rank 6 mothers lament quality 2. I replaceed rank 5 fang with rolling consequence quality 3. Trying to get save platinum for sleeping bile quality 3, gloom cast quality 3 and BSJ.
3:53 Notice how the Vile Spirits only launched for the first 4 seconds of the gem's activation. Since you have Vithu's, it should be at least 7 seconds. I have noticed this bug as well, but it disappears after relogin to the game. Can you notify the developers about this bug?
Dude that is a good catch. Now I will need to test it later tonight.
@@ApollyonGaming I can confirm it happens, but not always. Possibly relogin fixed it. Even later on in your video, it happened again, except it was even shorter (3 seconds).
Seeping + viper = pain+fang+mourne (continue damage booster)
Are you saying if I have both sleep and viper I can remove the other 2?
Maybe yes but that up to u@@whasaaaab, when u have seeping + viper combo fang,bsj,pain,bhope,mourne (ultimate booster damage).
I wonder if the chests dropping from lich king are worth grinding ?
No
@playallgamer8684 It was just all hype then ? ...
You choose. They drop weapon skins for classes and once a class is obtained, its removed from drop pool, so I farmed it until I had all 8 classes weapon skins and can now ignore.
@@ElZedLoL I was hoping for some good useful drops like gems eternal gewrs platinium but no all is skins im disappointed
I got 4 of the 8 weapon skins and 8 legendary essences from farming Lich King for like 15 minutes yesterday. I'm gonna keep farming him until I get the last 4 weapon skins and for essence farming. It takes less than 2 minutes in a party of 4. It's a neat little fight.
Igneous scorn or this gem?
Great video, thanks!
Does vithu extends the effect of your shield?
Yes, shields is meaned like buff
Combine with buff effect
What do you think is the better setup, this gem or a 5/5 rank 8 seeping bile ? I have about 6k potency but only other dot is from roiling , lashed.
Dang, that's a tough one. But it's possible in a lot of cases that Seeping Bile doesn't even get triggered all that much, especially with hit-and-run tactics. Since Viper + Everlasting are needed to make the most out of Bile, especially in PvP. But then again, rank 8 5/5 gives enough life/damage that it can easily rival even rank 10 Mourneskull damage. So, definitely, testing will be needed to determine if the difference is worth it or not.
If you are not using viper with that much potency, you are missing out
@@ApollyonGaming every 20 resonance gives you 1% extra life and damage.
Example 1: ferver fang lvl 10 giving you 300 rez + (24% damage = 480 rez) so any 2 star gems equals 780 rezo without counting its power.
Example 2: a 5/5 phoenix ashes that do not increase your damage but give you 800 reso is already better than any 2 star gem lvl 10 for damage
Hey Apollion Thanks for the great info. Now, as an FTP player, I was thinking of changing one of my one-star (berserker or blessed) for this one, but I'm just wondering if it's right. Berserker is 16% plain damage, and blessed helps me keep 100% uptime on all my skills on all my builds as a crusader, or, as you say, go for the vipers instead.
Viper+clasp is the best combo for for pretty much any build/class/reso. Pebble and bezerkers are great for pve only. Yes mourne gives more dmg%, but the 6s duration plus the stipulation of having to be near multiple targets makes it look sub par for pvp and bosses.
When you say combo do you mean one is an auxiliary of the other or just having both in 2 separate pieces of gear?
I have berserker eye, everlasting, blessed pebble, pain clasp, viper bite, seeping bile, eye of unyielding, fervent fang. So I should switch it for viper bite?
Berserker eye
did you make a dummy comparing test with it ?can you share the data if you do plz :)
Did u do a 10 sec dps with this gem and without gem, to see if the damage increase is correctly working or not.?
I didn't do that because, against a dummy, it only drains 1 soul, and the max damage stacks can't be reached. So maybe I'll do it later when I increase the rank a bit more.
@ApollyonGaming well yaa but if it does 11% more that that should be proof enough. I did with my same gem setup and then switch viper with this gem and damage went from 56M to 60M.
@@stronghold8162 Against a Viper, it would be better-especially against multiple enemies. Viper is mostly used for a DoT setup in PVP with Seeping Bile and Everlasting to feed the Grace set for additional hits. In a PVE setup, Mourneskull will easily outperform Viper Bite, and the difference will be even greater at higher ranks."
For me it is better for barb so far🙃
Great showcasing, testing, and analysis!
You mention 100% beneficial effects duration. Is there a BED cap, or were you just mentioning that as an easy example to calculate?
The duration of the beneficial effects is most likely not capped, but reaching 100% effectiveness isn't easy. It's difficult to test, and there has been no confirmation from the developers when asked.
i have already tested it an buff last 12 seonds on my character (i have beneficial effects on every possible gear and reforg)
I play mostly Necro and Wiz F2P , should I switch my Gloom Cask with the MourneSkull? As always thanks for the videos.
If your Gloom is rank 5 or below, then yes. Mourneskull increases the damage of Summons/Primary skills, and if you can rank it up to 8, it will give very solid results. But if your Gloom is at a high rank, then some testing will be needed.
nc video man very helpful
Why no test with all the other gems? In my experience my damage per second doubled with a Level 5 Mourneskull replacing a level 6 Igneous Scorn
Oh, yes. Between those two gems, Mourneskull, will wins. But compare to Fervent Fang and Pain Clasp, result will be much closer. But it still one of the top 2-Star Gem now.
doubled? impossible
Hi, I'm a wizard with 4 peace Banquet and the same Reforge Attributes as you.
I'm really hesitate if I should switch any of my legendary gem with Mourneskull.
Here is the gem and it's level I have now: Starfire Shard(5), Blood-Soaked Jade(4), Roiling Consequence(4), Bottled Hope(4), Sleeping Bile(4), Mother's Lament(10), Viper's Bite(8), and Pain Clasp(7)
If I switch to Mourneskull, it's probably gonna be level 7
Thanks so much for your advice!
I would personally switch out Starfire for Mourneskull. You will lose resonance, but you’ll gain damage.
To test this, go to the training dummy, remove all legendary gems, and then equip Starfire. Use all your abilities (primary and skills) for 1 minute and note the damage output. Afterward, remove Starfire and equip Mourneskull, then run the same test and compare the damage to see how much of a difference there is.
@@ApollyonGaming Thank you so much for your advice. This is actually the direction I’m seriously considering, especially after watching your previous video.
However, I do have one consideration about the dummy test. Because one of the strong feature of Mourneskull is the damage increase after drained 3 enemies. But there’s only 2 in the dummy area, would it be not accurate?
@@joechen321 That is true. But keep one thing in mind: when it comes to single-target damage, it will still give you a proper result, since in some scenarios, you'll be fighting only one target. So, it will give you a true single-target damage result. If that is something you would consider good, then you know gem will be even better vs multiple targets.
@ That’s such a good point! Thank you so much for your time. Really enjoy watching your videos!
Training BG??
Good content Apo! The only thing that worries me is if we will be able to obtain it after December 11th :/ cuz I dont think I can manage to rank it to 10 by then.
They'll likely include it in the battle pass as an option, like fang, grim rhythm and pearls.
I wouldn't expect it to be available straight after 11/12 though. Blizzese will want this gem to be exclusive, at least for the time. Hence why you can buy them from the shop now.
Crafting might change to needing maybe 5-6 Pearls but should still drop from Elder rift. At least that is inside news.
i broke my rank 4 3/5 void spark for this one rank 5, i ssaw nice dmg boost even if i lost 170 reso, i am low spender so i find it very useful to boost it more ranks easily!!
Definitely, that was a good swap for more damage.
But without Void Spark, does your farming speed gets slower?
@@SeramicsA bit slower, i wanted boss slaying gem open world aoe i am already good enough!
Everlasting Torment rank 10 vs this Mourneskull rank 5 ? PVP :/
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I’m not going to witch out any of my 5* gems to this 2* gems on my main due to the cool down.
I been playing on my alt to test it out and seems to be working well with other 2* gems.
Definitely best for newer players not as effective for veterans.
Mounscourn is better thank my rank 7 5 star zwenson haunting. Much more dmg
100% yeah
The gem isn't than powerfull like every paint it i have already in level 7 and my berserker eye have better damage in a several times and remember that gem is just for every 20 min another gems had increased damage all the time.
so you doing something wrong than. also keep in mind this buff can last up to 13seconds so its only 7seond cool down.