I think it's important to remember that the animals in the wild likely aren't aware of their loneliness. That bird was probably just having a fine day, and happened to be recorded. What we project onto it, via romance, guilt, and regret, is the important take away. That thylacine in the zoo wasn't any lonelier than any other animal kept in captivity away from others. But we know what it means, and that imbues greater importance and significance for us. Hopefully, to learn from, but historically, to be ignored.
@@jakebeach8308 do you think we can better balance our interpretations of animal emotions with objective measures of their well-being to improve standards for animals in captivity?
@@AncientWildTV probably! Not sure how we'd go about that in most cases. I do assume that, unless that animal in particular is in threat of being destroyed or harmed if left in the wild, then it is always better to just leave them in the wild. But if they're already in captivity, we should do what we can to give plenty of room, and access to all the things their natural habitat can provide, and monitor their behavior very closely, adapting treatment to behavior changes, and seeking input from experts on those animals. Which is a huge undertaking, but is what I personally believe is the most responsible thing if we've put them in captivity.
it's likely one of the saddest songs of all times , and the fact it got recorded kinda makes it more powerful ... that is real , it's not someone jerking tears , it's an innocent bird trying to find some normality in his lonely life and failing ...
being someone born in australia it always makes me really sad being able to see that footage, knowing i'll never actually get to see a thylacine in real life.
@@Frimplus Don’t be so sure of that, there are efforts to bring it back and some would argue it never went extinct to begin with (even on the mainland) and even if it is it might still exist on New Guinea
@@Frimplus There have been signs all over that are either being dismissed or ignored like scat, hair and paw prints but the Tasmanian government’s is super sketchy because of their deals with the lumber cutters and stuff. On New Guinea the locals say they’ve seen the thylacine, they’ve seen abandoned joeys and caught and ate an adult specimen that was attacking people. You might wonder why non of the locals were seen wearing or displaying its skins, I think they actually are wearing the skins but the stripes have completely faded as we know from museum specimens that the stripes fade over time and that’s in a museum where they are kept in the best conditions so who knows how much sunlight, heat, humidity and rain can accelerate that process
The demonization of western wolves as compared to the admiration and worship of Honshu wolves and the relation to livestock is fascinating. Domestic meat wasn't common in the diets of Japanese people for centuries, so the keeping of livestock was uncommon outside of working animals, so the threat of losing sheep or cattle to wolf attacks wasn't present in Japanese culture. A perspective I never considered until now, but it's so obvious in retrospect!
But what about nomad cultures like Turkic culture? They relied heavily on meat and livestocks, their whole life was basically being shepards yet the wolf is not only respected and admired, Turkic mythology literally says that Turks are part wolf. Maybe there are less wolves on the steppes or maybe, because of moving around all the time, nomads didnt deal much with wolves in negative ways?
@@ArdaSRealMaybe because they were nomadic, they understood the wolves a little better. That understanding brought about respect. If you never have to move, then you never have anything else to care about besides what directly effects you. One is experienced in a larger picture, the other is willfully ignorant to the outside world. Even now, most of us reflect the latter since we don't have to do more than the little we are required.
The saddest thing about the thylacine is that a family kept one as a pet and said it was really good with the children and liked to play with a ball of wool, like a cat
I do take a bit of solace in knowing that he was more than likely biologically incapable of understanding just how heartbreaking his situation was. He was probably experiencing stress due to an inability to find it's mate or interact with any of it's other species but he probably didnt experience the deep, existential sadness that we feel when hearing his calls.
Relic population of Thylacine could be out there. Barbary Lion exist in private zoos but to what percentages is not known. When it comes to extinción with us playing a significant or only role in it. Providing it's territory still exists, we should try and revive.
@treycopeland1368 come on copeland get yourself together, there are things such as love and poetry in this world. How could you wish those things to pass under the sun never to be risen upon again?
@@Ballistics_Computer I interpreted their comment to mean something along the lines of "There won't be a last human as we won't peter out slowly, we'll have a grand ol' party of confetti and nuclear hellfire!"
I can’t tell which line I like better “All that remains now of the wolf, the mighty upland spirit of Japan, is just that, the spirit of a protective beast that once was.” Or “This song you are hearing is presumably the harmony of the species endling. It is the mating call of a male, calling out to a companion that would never answer.”
6:18 Another branch of these megafaunal wolves (also known as Beringian wolves), migrated into North America and gave rise to the endangered Mexican wolves and extinct Great Plains wolf. And there’s a theory that it was these wolves that ancient humans domesticated, giving rise to the modern domestic dogs.
the Kauaʻi ʻōʻō endling call was so powerful. sometimes I think as biology nerds we need to rename our passion to necrology. the study of life today cannot be separated from the study of the ongoing global mass extinction event humans are driving. othertimes I'm less hopeless, and I think about it more as pathology, studying how things are going wrong, how ecosystems are getting sicker. total biome death is not inevitable, we can stop and change direction. but haunting recordings like that mating call are stark reminders of the consequences of our actions. thank you for making these videos, I'm excited to see your new channel, amd have already subscribed.
Passenger pigeon Ivory billed woodpecker, though a single male was found in 05. In 2023 it was declared extinct again, presuming the bird found in 05 was the endling of that species.
There were other species of Japanese wolves on Hokkaido island called Hokkaido Wolf or Ezo Wolf, and they lived as far as Sakhalin island in Russia, but they sadly also went extinct.
Something I’ve noticed over the years is that traditions never spring up out of nowhere. Wolves had a bad reputation in history for the same reason they’re going to have a bad reputation as their populations recover and they begin stalking/killing livestock AND humans again. In places like Siberia where wolves never declined to the same extent as in Western Europe and the Americas, the prevalence of active predation on humans by wolves also never declined to that same extent. It is deadly foolish to assume our ancestors were merely ignorant or outright evil in their dealings with the natural world. Instead, we should recognize that it is us who are totally insulated from nature and who overwhelmingly have no firsthand experience with hardship that isn’t manmade.
@@ieatalgaeat least colossal is working on bringing back the thylacine through cloning stuff so if there somehow actually aren’t any left we will still have some in the future.
i've been rewatching your videos to see where the steller's sea cow track is from, not knowing it was a spoiler for a new video! i've been enthralled by that song ever since the music album was released. great video!
great video! i really love how you bring so much detail into these extinct animals. it's fascinating to learn about them. although, i wonder if focusing too much on extinction might overshadow the importance of conservation for current endangered species. it's like we can't change the past, but we can definitely make a difference now, right?
I think a cool video idea would be about dinosaurs with unclear identities, basically dinosaurs that have been lumped into and tossed around different groups due to their ambiguity. A good example would be deltadromeus.
Congrats on the new channel, I will definitely check it out. (Though I hope this channel will still have content.) Though I just wanted to say, please don't give up on the comedic aspect of your writing. While it is certainly still good even without it, and certain videos like this one are better off without too much of it, the comedy is what made me originally subscribe to this channel and kept me coming back. You can be "can't breathe and tears" levels of funny when you want to be, like the video on "Bad Cryptids" is legit one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Granted, I know it's not always something you can just turn on like a switch, but I've noticed a general trend with videos lately moving away from that aspect. Anyways, I just hope you don't give up on it as it makes your stuff really special.
I'm a Wildlife Biologist and it really just feels like a losing battle sometimes. I love my job but I also know I'm probably just slowing down the inevitable.
Thanks for taking into consideration the people who prefer AD and BC. CE and BCE is still focused around the birth of the same dude, but BC and ADs meanings sound cooler.
2:26 not hypothesized, pretty much known, just like all other sirenians 3:14 but the Dodo didn't go extinct due to being eaten by humans, its meat tasted bad, it was due to the various other inmvasive animals that it went extinct
I was aware of the kauai o'o's story but had decided not to listen to the recording at the time because I knew it would make me upset. So now I'm crying. Very poignant way to end this video.
UA-cam is screwing you up because I didn't get any notification about your two latest videos. Its really a shame that the dont tell me that peak is back
Here's the Life & the Earth Channel - their next documentary is coming out this upcoming week! www.youtube.com/@LifeAndTheEarth
Please don't stop making content. always here for the high quality vids. *subbed and belled to both*
8:12 Unsubbing because of this stupid racist comment you felt like making during my animal story
I SAID I UNSUBBED FROM YOUR CHANNEL FOR YOUR COMMENT 8:14
@@JaMeshuggah
What, you’re offended by history? Get thicker skin and quit being so insecure.
That lone call is haunting like a refusal to accept the extinction of your species but a power beyond your understanding has decided otherwise
You might like a comic called Stray, it’s about tiny mammals experiencing a form of dramatic irony and cosmic horror due to human activity
I think it's important to remember that the animals in the wild likely aren't aware of their loneliness. That bird was probably just having a fine day, and happened to be recorded. What we project onto it, via romance, guilt, and regret, is the important take away.
That thylacine in the zoo wasn't any lonelier than any other animal kept in captivity away from others. But we know what it means, and that imbues greater importance and significance for us. Hopefully, to learn from, but historically, to be ignored.
Hella deep
@@jakebeach8308 do you think we can better balance our interpretations of animal emotions with objective measures of their well-being to improve standards for animals in captivity?
@@AncientWildTV probably! Not sure how we'd go about that in most cases. I do assume that, unless that animal in particular is in threat of being destroyed or harmed if left in the wild, then it is always better to just leave them in the wild. But if they're already in captivity, we should do what we can to give plenty of room, and access to all the things their natural habitat can provide, and monitor their behavior very closely, adapting treatment to behavior changes, and seeking input from experts on those animals. Which is a huge undertaking, but is what I personally believe is the most responsible thing if we've put them in captivity.
The endling Kaui I o o mating call is heartbreaking.
it's likely one of the saddest songs of all times ,
and the fact it got recorded kinda makes it more powerful ...
that is real , it's not someone jerking tears , it's an innocent bird trying to find some normality in his lonely life and failing ...
The story always gets me
They recorded it and played it back through the recorder.. the male came back and flew off again. The last female had been killed in a storm ☹
It gives me shivers every time I hear it, honestly.
😢
That Thylacine footage always makes me feel sad
@@kinnikuboneman especially because Benjamin died of negligence too. How dare the zoo keepers!
being someone born in australia it always makes me really sad being able to see that footage, knowing i'll never actually get to see a thylacine in real life.
@@Frimplus
Don’t be so sure of that, there are efforts to bring it back and some would argue it never went extinct to begin with (even on the mainland) and even if it is it might still exist on New Guinea
@@mayrahemmerechts5867 i like the optimism but personally i don't think it's around any more i'm sure there would have been signs by now
@@Frimplus
There have been signs all over that are either being dismissed or ignored like scat, hair and paw prints but the Tasmanian government’s is super sketchy because of their deals with the lumber cutters and stuff. On New Guinea the locals say they’ve seen the thylacine, they’ve seen abandoned joeys and caught and ate an adult specimen that was attacking people. You might wonder why non of the locals were seen wearing or displaying its skins, I think they actually are wearing the skins but the stripes have completely faded as we know from museum specimens that the stripes fade over time and that’s in a museum where they are kept in the best conditions so who knows how much sunlight, heat, humidity and rain can accelerate that process
Kauai oo is not only an endling of a species but a whole genus
Very true! I could've gone into much greater detail about them and their extinction.
not just genus but entire family
@@TheBudgetMuseum *should've
No better way to start your morning than with the realization that you will never experience seeing these animals ever again...
Kinda sad I will never get to taste how delicious the Stellar Sea Cow was
@@AmiableDingoThat's an Old-Beef, if you will.
That's all folks!
No better way to steal comments and just switch 1 or 2 words 🍵
@@ChaseDaBagWitNoLegs more than one person can say the same thing. Initiate.
Unless.
The demonization of western wolves as compared to the admiration and worship of Honshu wolves and the relation to livestock is fascinating. Domestic meat wasn't common in the diets of Japanese people for centuries, so the keeping of livestock was uncommon outside of working animals, so the threat of losing sheep or cattle to wolf attacks wasn't present in Japanese culture. A perspective I never considered until now, but it's so obvious in retrospect!
It was mostly wild-caught seafood as far as meat came, right? And pretty much still is.
But what about nomad cultures like Turkic culture? They relied heavily on meat and livestocks, their whole life was basically being shepards yet the wolf is not only respected and admired, Turkic mythology literally says that Turks are part wolf.
Maybe there are less wolves on the steppes or maybe, because of moving around all the time, nomads didnt deal much with wolves in negative ways?
@@ArdaSRealMaybe because they were nomadic, they understood the wolves a little better. That understanding brought about respect. If you never have to move, then you never have anything else to care about besides what directly effects you. One is experienced in a larger picture, the other is willfully ignorant to the outside world. Even now, most of us reflect the latter since we don't have to do more than the little we are required.
I found you through 'really stupid cryptids' and am now eagerly awaiting the sequel to that.
Same. 😂 Definitely one of my favourite videos on this channel.
The saddest thing about the thylacine is that a family kept one as a pet and said it was really good with the children and liked to play with a ball of wool, like a cat
They literally are similar to foxes in that way.
Aww, poor thylacines! They’re all gone now.
The Kauai ō’ō call is just haunting to listen to. Even more haunting for the bird since he’s calling out to the dead, which he’d soon join
I do take a bit of solace in knowing that he was more than likely biologically incapable of understanding just how heartbreaking his situation was. He was probably experiencing stress due to an inability to find it's mate or interact with any of it's other species but he probably didnt experience the deep, existential sadness that we feel when hearing his calls.
I feel like that unending loneliness and confusion of not knowing why, would be far worse. Ofc I might be anthropmorphizing
Yes, it’s finally here!!! And the end is one of the best I’ve ever seen, it’s so haunting.
the loss of the thylacine will forever make me angry. we could've had it all
The ending gave me chills
Never say never said the Coelacanth
Relic population of Thylacine could be out there. Barbary Lion exist in private zoos but to what percentages is not known. When it comes to extinción with us playing a significant or only role in it. Providing it's territory still exists, we should try and revive.
At this point, it's not a question of if, it's a question of when for the mammoth, and probably the thylacine and dodo.
damn …. the ending has me crying. singing for no one to answer. desperate reaching into the void for a soul that does not exist.
"Desperate reaching into the void for a soul that does not exist."
Just this beautifully phrased sentiment brings tears to my eyes.😭
The lonely existence of the last surviving members of these species just makes me sad and sometime a single human will exist alone.
Nah.
The end of man will be a grand day
@treycopeland1368 come on copeland get yourself together, there are things such as love and poetry in this world. How could you wish those things to pass under the sun never to be risen upon again?
@@Ballistics_Computer I interpreted their comment to mean something along the lines of "There won't be a last human as we won't peter out slowly, we'll have a grand ol' party of confetti and nuclear hellfire!"
@@Ballistics_Computer"poetry"? Eh. Our technology on the other hand. That is much more impressive.
I was waiting for you to destroy me with the bird recording 😢
I can’t tell which line I like better
“All that remains now of the wolf, the mighty upland spirit of Japan, is just that, the spirit of a protective beast that once was.”
Or
“This song you are hearing is presumably the harmony of the species endling. It is the mating call of a male, calling out to a companion that would never answer.”
Damn man, the birdsong over the outro was heartbreaking. Fantastic work!
6:18
Another branch of these megafaunal wolves (also known as Beringian wolves), migrated into North America and gave rise to the endangered Mexican wolves and extinct Great Plains wolf.
And there’s a theory that it was these wolves that ancient humans domesticated, giving rise to the modern domestic dogs.
I had no idea about the connection between Beringian wolves and Lobos! Awesome stuff!
the Kauaʻi ʻōʻō endling call was so powerful.
sometimes I think as biology nerds we need to rename our passion to necrology. the study of life today cannot be separated from the study of the ongoing global mass extinction event humans are driving.
othertimes I'm less hopeless, and I think about it more as pathology, studying how things are going wrong, how ecosystems are getting sicker. total biome death is not inevitable, we can stop and change direction. but haunting recordings like that mating call are stark reminders of the consequences of our actions.
thank you for making these videos, I'm excited to see your new channel, amd have already subscribed.
No we can't stop and change direction. Nature will do that for us. We are in overshoot massively on a global scale
I hate that we don’t have the Carolina parakeet, imagine you could have a pet parrot native to the US.
Steller's Sea Cow is the only mammal I know of that didn't have hands. Its arms end with the radius & ulna bones.
Passenger pigeon
Ivory billed woodpecker, though a single male was found in 05. In 2023 it was declared extinct again, presuming the bird found in 05 was the endling of that species.
Which was found in 2005?
@@קעז-מענטש what's your question, I don't know what you're unsure about
@@ni-dirus was the Pigeon or the woodpecker found in 05?
@@קעז-מענטש the ivory billed woodpecker found in 05 but declared extinct again in 2023
@@ni-dirus ok
There were other species of Japanese wolves on Hokkaido island called Hokkaido Wolf or Ezo Wolf, and they lived as far as Sakhalin island in Russia, but they sadly also went extinct.
Every day with a new Budget Museum video is a happy day
Something I’ve noticed over the years is that traditions never spring up out of nowhere. Wolves had a bad reputation in history for the same reason they’re going to have a bad reputation as their populations recover and they begin stalking/killing livestock AND humans again.
In places like Siberia where wolves never declined to the same extent as in Western Europe and the Americas, the prevalence of active predation on humans by wolves also never declined to that same extent.
It is deadly foolish to assume our ancestors were merely ignorant or outright evil in their dealings with the natural world. Instead, we should recognize that it is us who are totally insulated from nature and who overwhelmingly have no firsthand experience with hardship that isn’t manmade.
I think we're better off just leaving the wolf's dead and replacing them as the natural predators of that area.
I know they are all more than likely extinct but part of me still believes (or at least wants to believe) that small populations are out there.
Same. I'll never give up hope.
There's no way I'm gonna give up on a potential Thylacine. I just can't. It's too sad to think of a world without one somewhere.
@@ieatalgaeat least colossal is working on bringing back the thylacine through cloning stuff so if there somehow actually aren’t any left we will still have some in the future.
@@glopple YAY!! I think I heard something about that, but it was about Mammoths instead
@@ieatalgae yeah they’re doing mammoths, thylacine and dodo birds
4:15 that’s too many ribs. Creative taxidermy.
Two videos in a month, what a pleasant surprise!
You should probably add in the description and pinned comment the "Life and the earth" channel, it took me a while to find it.
i've been rewatching your videos to see where the steller's sea cow track is from, not knowing it was a spoiler for a new video! i've been enthralled by that song ever since the music album was released. great video!
The worst part about the thylacine endling is that it died due to neglect from being left outside in the cold where it froze to death
But on the plus side, we're working on bringing it back.
Bro this video is gonna make me cry
Don’t give up The Budget Museum though! I love the whole presentations here! That it isn’t highly produced and it’s funny is why I subscribed
Crazy, the ende, just chilling. U realy know how to edit. Great work!!!
The content I needed fr
Thanks for making me sad just before going to bed 👍
now the titles of the songs on your album make so much sense
Dang, Princess Mononoke but real
The Loneliest Love Song 🎵 😢
Great content. Hope the numbers pick back up for you soon, these videos deserve more!
a sequel to my favourite video on the channel. Thank you
That ending made me tear. A lot.
Fantastic as always! Time to check Life and the earth too
Yes the part two to what could be my favorite video to rewatch!
I love your channel sm! i’ve been watching since the cyptid video! One of the channels I get most excited to see upload!
i LOVED that video! its one of my comfort videos, still watch it all the time 💜
Hybrid descendants of Barbary lions still exist in captivity, so at least they aren't completely gone.
It is NOT-SHAMLESS!!!! I want MOREEE, we want more. HISTORY IS INT-EREST-ING!
great video! i really love how you bring so much detail into these extinct animals. it's fascinating to learn about them. although, i wonder if focusing too much on extinction might overshadow the importance of conservation for current endangered species. it's like we can't change the past, but we can definitely make a difference now, right?
Time travelling kid was no error! He appeared in the painting after you uploaded.
NEW CHANNEL POGGIES!! UR MY FAVOURITE PALEO YT CHANNEL.
I think a cool video idea would be about dinosaurs with unclear identities, basically dinosaurs that have been lumped into and tossed around different groups due to their ambiguity. A good example would be deltadromeus.
2:15 Its Very similar to a manatee and funfact manatees in Brazil are called fish-bulls
i love your channel so much i'll be checking out the other for sure, no doubt i'll love it just as much.
I love your videos! Keep it up man
This shit has me crying at work rn I'm so sad
My boy coming in with good content 😊
I bet Stella's sea-cow was DELICIOUS. Those sailors were so lucky.
Endling is my favourite word, despite how intrinsically sad it is, or maybe because of it.
How dare you make me cry at the end of that?! 😢
Congrats on the new channel, I will definitely check it out. (Though I hope this channel will still have content.)
Though I just wanted to say, please don't give up on the comedic aspect of your writing. While it is certainly still good even without it, and certain videos like this one are better off without too much of it, the comedy is what made me originally subscribe to this channel and kept me coming back. You can be "can't breathe and tears" levels of funny when you want to be, like the video on "Bad Cryptids" is legit one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Granted, I know it's not always something you can just turn on like a switch, but I've noticed a general trend with videos lately moving away from that aspect. Anyways, I just hope you don't give up on it as it makes your stuff really special.
Agreed. I enjoyed this serious video and his other serious videos, but I also enjoyed the comedy in his earlier videos.
Yus omg Yus finally a part two!!!
YESSSSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
I did find your channel through that video, tbh I am a Romaboo so that is probably what attracted me first, I do like the Aurochs mural too
✨ *it’s bigger and there’s more of them* ✨
Watched the first vid Yesterday and you posted this not even a few hours later
I am not just crying; I am grieving.
TBM has a new channel??? instant subscribe….
I started watching you when you kust started but now you have 300k+ subscribers., you have come far
0:09 jokes on you, my first Budget Museum video was that crypid video.
does Life and the Earth have the same voice over guy from Natural World Facts? I love that guy!
Love these videos
I'm a Wildlife Biologist and it really just feels like a losing battle sometimes. I love my job but I also know I'm probably just slowing down the inevitable.
Well, that was depresing. Great video, but depressing. Thank you for all of your amazing content.
15:13 "the kawaii owo"
The endling part hurts my soul. Poor fellows =-(
Why do i have to live in a world Without stellers sea cow
Thanks for taking into consideration the people who prefer AD and BC. CE and BCE is still focused around the birth of the same dude, but BC and ADs meanings sound cooler.
that birds song made me cry wtf man
That ending made me cry in gym 😔.
Budget Museum uploads
I click
I’m a simple man
That’s me in the time traveling kid in the picture
New Video Wooo 🎉
I need more on Japanese wolf culture.
2:26 not hypothesized, pretty much known, just like all other sirenians
3:14 but the Dodo didn't go extinct due to being eaten by humans, its meat tasted bad, it was due to the various other inmvasive animals that it went extinct
Great video as always.
I just subscribed to Life & the Earth.
The link to the background artist is broken. Where else can I find their music?
I was aware of the kauai o'o's story but had decided not to listen to the recording at the time because I knew it would make me upset. So now I'm crying. Very poignant way to end this video.
Don't mind me, just lurking around in the museum.
UA-cam is screwing you up because I didn't get any notification about your two latest videos. Its really a shame that the dont tell me that peak is back
time to listen to "Last Lion of Albion" and get sad about modern extinctions again.
great ending
0:00 "Nice! A new TBM video!"
16:27 *crying in fetal position*
Why did you have to go and make me cry at the end?
Commenting for engagement
the reason its called "sea cow" is because in the german language a "sea cow" or "Seekuh" describes all animals like Dugon and manatees
Can you talk about the Aequorlitornithes (Stroks pelicans flamingos Grebes etc.)
Theres also penguins Loons sunbitterns as a few more
We are still in an ice age you know