The fact that The Cockney Rejects stood their ground, remained loyal to ICF, and respected their camaraderie with Cass in a time when they could have just as easily caved in to the British Movement or the National Front is why this band will ALWAYS have my respect and support. One of the few punk bands that actually lived the narrative that they was selling on records. 🥊🇬🇧🥊🇬🇧🥊
Spot on , there was a massive skinhead following at WEST HAM but when Cass appeared on the scene it caused a divide as there was also the NF & British movement infiltrating clubs back then including chelsea & C 18 etc as you'll know, i can still remember near upton park a huge white fist as a kid & asking my older brother what it was & him trying to explain it to me as i was only around 12 ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 It's funny. I watched a Broken Bones live video from '83 where some Millwall skins had invaded the stage and started battering some geezer. And the band were afraid to intervene. They seemed petrified. That never would have happened at a Rejects gig. 🥊🇬🇧🥊🇬🇧🥊
@@vjenkins6815 they would of welcomed it, i saw the rejects down brick lane about a yr ago they were busy chatting but i spoke to vince asked him about the Cedars club in Birmingham ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 I wonder if Vinnie suffers from PTSD from that Birmingham gig. It's said that Birmingham gig was one of the most violent gigs in human history. Claret, broken glass, and human bodies spread out all over the place.
@@vjenkins6815 according to Gary Bushell they held there own against huge numbers of brummie skins & ran em out the place with there minders who were ICF member's 😭
Proper bloke is jeff honest, working class and loyal, he'd never let you down and would always stand his ground. Even if the guy did break about two legs, sorry Jeff 😂
nice I went to that game too 1981 at Wembley as you said great times o those memories lol and during half time I saw some of the band drinking in the bars at the stadium a real band of the people cheers mate
stinky turner great front man from a great band saw them loads of times in the early days in the bridge house ect still the best gigs iv been to thanks for the memories
All in all ,think he answered the questions well enough .Followed Cockney Rejects when they first came out . Quite a good Punk band and could play a bit too .
Great interview, amazing band. Can't wait to see them play the Bridgehouse 2 in March! Ps that's a photo of Jeff's brother, Mick, behind him with the guitar. Equally as handsome so I guess that caused the confusion ; D
Jeff Turner: Im not condoning it but I will sing about it and in a round about way kind of glamorise the whole violence scene and then ask what was that all about? no Jeff you Fackin Laved it!!!
these guys are cool.. i drove them around new orleans picking them and other bands up for social chaos in 99.. great guys had a blast with all of them...
In 79 I was part of the Newcastle firm stabed 3 times broken jaw fractured scull from brass knuckles it was fuckin hard times football ain't what it used to be back in the day I fuckin loved it Thoe story's for the grand kids in about 10 years hahaha
MrHodgeheg123 Were you never young, bored and having no future to look to? Life in the Newcastles, Glasgows, East End of London etc. wasn't the same as Tunbridge Wells, Bath or Cheadle fuckin Hulme
Yeah have to admit at times hooligans and the firms going at each other got blown out of hand. Fair enough if there's scuffles in derby games but it was between teams who had no immediate rivalry.
Great gig at Dundee a couple of months back by the Rejects and the Charlton Lads were in attendance yet again. I have to say nobody held a candle to West ham's firm back in the day.
@@joemeek8040 Who is? Never read Pennant's books. I'm Charlton from the East End. I know a lot of west Ham lads. My Charlton mates were east End. We have a mutual disrespect for wall. Went to many away game with them, so trust me, nobody came close to those lads. Best firm in their day, by far!
great time for the rejects as a paddy that lived around stratford for a good spell i had no love for the tans but east end changed my mind they are the salt of the earth and i have lived and worked in a lot of countries sorry i never ran into the boys
Times move on, it is 2016 now, there are many types of social behavior that is no longer accepted. This type of lifestyle was the norm for a lot of people back then. That is how it was.
I loved my.hooligan days with Newcastle, I alwaus wondered in the back of my mind how I'd react if I met anyone from the rejects in a major ruck, it never.happened tho!!
The political aspect is rubbish, like they simply had to acknowledge it as relevant to not lose aggro points, but for a band talking to media etc they're legit. That's just my impression though.
I admired the Cockney Rejects back in the day. But then music moved on, and so did they. The Rejects became a hard rock band and produced some great music. It's sad to hear this frontman almost bragging about hooliganism all these years later. It's so mindless and puerile.
He's not boasting at all, he's answering questions and stating how he's not proud of what he got involved in. The same hypocrites criticising here probably pay-to-view 2 boxers knocking each other around a ring - how pathetic is that?
I feel like after that riot where the Rejects were fighting for their lives and tons of people were fucked up and it derailed their career and oi in general they probably could have turned it around but given their political climate in the UK and the environment they had been raised in that they were pushed towards whatever kept things moving. Ultimately it was shortsighted. But whatever. Those early singles and the first two LP's are copied by most bands (predecessors like Cock Sparrer notwithstanding) and always poorly. Major Accident, The Rejects, and Sparrer had the best oi! hooks of all time.
Punk was middle class hedonism, I've no time for 'ex-punks' views, why do you think working class punks were viewed as such scum and degenerates while all these buzz-bands in London were seen as visionaries and revolutionaries?
You’ve right there. Punk in Britain was as classist as anything. The middle class ‘ intellectuals ‘ only needed an instant of Nazis or Thuggery at one of the more gritty bands’ shows and the whole scene got demonised . 👍🐢
My mate Chad was at that gig in The Bungalow and they absolutely smashed it. He has loved them ever since. Jeff n co, decent and talented. Chad and i walked through the Winter Gardens, DECADES later, Jeff REMEMBERED his name. That is class...end of 🦁💕
Likeable honest bloke , interesting stories and you can tell it's true from his demeanor and body language well done fellah .
The fact that The Cockney Rejects stood their ground, remained loyal to ICF, and respected their camaraderie with Cass in a time when they could have just as easily caved in to the British Movement or the National Front is why this band will ALWAYS have my respect and support.
One of the few punk bands that actually lived the narrative that they was selling on records.
🥊🇬🇧🥊🇬🇧🥊
Spot on , there was a massive skinhead following at WEST HAM but when Cass appeared on the scene it caused a divide as there was also the NF & British movement infiltrating clubs back then including chelsea & C 18 etc as you'll know, i can still remember near upton park a huge white fist as a kid & asking my older brother what it was & him trying to explain it to me as i was only around 12 ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 It's funny. I watched a Broken Bones live video from '83 where some Millwall skins had invaded the stage and started battering some geezer. And the band were afraid to intervene. They seemed petrified.
That never would have happened at a Rejects gig.
🥊🇬🇧🥊🇬🇧🥊
@@vjenkins6815 they would of welcomed it, i saw the rejects down brick lane about a yr ago they were busy chatting but i spoke to vince asked him about the Cedars club in Birmingham ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 I wonder if Vinnie suffers from PTSD from that Birmingham gig.
It's said that Birmingham gig was one of the most violent gigs in human history. Claret, broken glass, and human bodies spread out all over the place.
@@vjenkins6815 according to Gary Bushell they held there own against huge numbers of brummie skins & ran em out the place with there minders who were ICF member's 😭
proper geezer from a proper Oi band.
Love the Cockney Rejects
Thanks for this
First heard the Rejects back in the day when John Peel played them. Where the Hell is Babylon? is a tune!
Proper bloke is jeff honest, working class and loyal, he'd never let you down and would always stand his ground. Even if the guy did break about two legs, sorry Jeff 😂
Cant wait see to rejects gigs in Jakarta on march 2019.. cheers mate. Oi!
Never really got into the rejects but got a lot of time got this bloke , seems a decent enough guy.
my favorite oi band and one of my 10 favorite punk bands
nice I went to that game too 1981 at Wembley as you said great times o those memories lol and during half time I saw some of the band drinking in the bars at the stadium a real band of the people cheers mate
stinky turner great front man from a great band saw them loads of times in the early days in the bridge house ect still the best gigs iv been to thanks for the memories
"etc"
At Ajax we once had a skydiver who was too late and landed during the game... ON TOP OF A PLAYER!! (player in question was Frank de Boer)
Wooooow dat wist ik niet eens
Ha ha 😂😂😂
That's funny. You could say he had a ball!
Saw these guys in L.A awesome band im glad I got to see them
All in all ,think he answered the questions well enough .Followed Cockney Rejects when they first came out . Quite a good Punk band and could play a bit too .
Great interview, amazing band. Can't wait to see them play the Bridgehouse 2 in March! Ps that's a photo of Jeff's brother, Mick, behind him with the guitar. Equally as handsome so I guess that caused the confusion ; D
Jeff Turner: Im not condoning it but I will sing about it and in a round about way kind of glamorise the whole violence scene and then ask what was that all about?
no Jeff you Fackin Laved it!!!
It’s more popular now than it was six years ago
If Cass Pennant's your mate, you don't need security or minders!
Always a fan, after the Pistols it's gotta be the Rejects! And a West Ham fan on the terraces in 1980-83, I was just a kid but I love em!!!
The parachute thing happened at Villa. Think he’s mixed up his claret and blues.
seen them play last week. Still brilliant!
Seen them 4 days ago. Love 'em. Honest cunts❤️ Fiery music, righteous people. Cmon You Rejects!
🦁🦁 sleeps till Dundee 🤪
"He broke about 2 legs" well im happy he didn't break his third or fourth legs
As he fell over the thingy.
If he'd broken his middle leg it would have hurt!!🤣🤣
Great Film.... Funny... Proper Geezers.
Excellent 👍
Stinky Turner you’re the man from New York, Cheers Mate 🍺
Awesome, cheers.
He finks a lot ... one of life's great finkers.
Proper bloke talking sense!
I was at that Birmingham gig was carnage never seen anything like it
these guys are cool.. i drove them around new orleans picking them and other bands up for social chaos in 99.. great guys had a blast with all of them...
In 79 I was part of the Newcastle firm stabed 3 times broken jaw fractured scull from brass knuckles it was fuckin hard times football ain't what it used to be back in the day I fuckin loved it Thoe story's for the grand kids in about 10 years hahaha
Wow! you must be really proud of yourself?????????????
MrHodgeheg123 Were you never young, bored and having no future to look to? Life in the Newcastles, Glasgows, East End of London etc. wasn't the same as Tunbridge Wells, Bath or Cheadle fuckin Hulme
merseybeast76 i got involved slugged a few Hollies
merseybeast76 yea loved the Scarpa, the bustas
MrHodgeheg123 ... piss off you drybread
nice one jeff!!!
Carry on lads❤ never SURRENDER ❤
Last see him man city away semi final league Cup. Good lad
Top man!
Top guy 👍👍
Brilliant
honnest straight forward bloke
Yeah have to admit at times hooligans and the firms going at each other got blown out of hand. Fair enough if there's scuffles in derby games but it was between teams who had no immediate rivalry.
14 year old skin here, keep the faith
good vid truth at last ...
This mans a legend!
Broke about two legs
If u don't like what u hear don't look at it......
Great gig at Dundee a couple of months back by the Rejects and the Charlton Lads were in attendance yet again. I have to say nobody held a candle to West ham's firm back in the day.
Newcastle did- they took said candle and used it to light a petrol bomb before chucking it at them in the leazes!!
Stop listening to the nonsense that Cass and the other write !!
@@drover110 Listen fella, Geordies are ok in my book, but chucking bombs at the opposition is just not cricket.
@@joemeek8040 Who is? Never read Pennant's books. I'm Charlton from the East End. I know a lot of west Ham lads. My Charlton mates were east End. We have a mutual disrespect for wall. Went to many away game with them, so trust me, nobody came close to those lads. Best firm in their day, by far!
@@drover110 in your dreams you northern neanderthal
cor blimey guv , chimney sweeping geezer !!!!
great time for the rejects as a paddy that lived around stratford for a good spell i had no love for the tans but east end changed my mind they are the salt of the earth and i have lived and worked in a lot of countries sorry i never ran into the boys
decent fellah , interesting story cheers fellah
Great punk band.
Fckin top bloke
Top bloke
He's wearing FCV shirt ,we are the firm !!!
+Psihijatrija 31 наша браћа
Broke "about" two legs
forgot what hes said already
Times move on, it is 2016 now, there are many types of social behavior that is no longer accepted. This type of lifestyle was the norm for a lot of people back then. That is how it was.
Not for "a lot of people" it wasn`t.....more like a couple of thousand of yobbos with nothing better to do.
top man
shite , rubbish twaddle
The letter 'L'
no translation to Brazil
Get my new book Road End hooligans 2 .... about boys in the 80's ... now on amazon
Murdering red bastards justice for the heysel 39 Everton scallies only firm in the city
Why is there an old pic of Jeff's brother behind him ?
you fucked up Talk Sport !
nice fella
We're all through cockneys🫧⚒️🫧🫡🫵👌🚔🚓🙋♂️🤷♂️🤭👋🆔️
Go, Stinky!!!!!
Elaborate your comment !!
probs from milton keynes
The Firm Novi Sad! Cheers!
AEK Athens
Never into the punk seen madness, ska for me know lot of people who were god crowd though good stuff!!!
Man, I've been studying English for quite some time now but oh do I need subtitles here
Rejects Rule!!!
I loved my.hooligan days with Newcastle, I alwaus wondered in the back of my mind how I'd react if I met anyone from the rejects in a
major ruck, it never.happened tho!!
Against Modern Football.
At 5.38❤️
He should have been a Totenham fan with a hooter like that.
Rupert Stiltskin Fair old trumpet
in some areas theres even more jews in east London than north so he may well be
He has a boxers nose...he is not a Jew.
@@humanforfreedom9583 East End is all Muslim now,its the pits.
how d`you mean
Setting Cass Pennant on the nazis . I like that a lot.
God broke about two legs......good job he broke no more then that.
jeff turner ledgend
Was he at Victoria.........West ham and the famous ICF were very healthy that day....knew how to run
You on about when we took a mob up too Victoria coz you lot wouldn’t have it with us at Upton Park 🤔
Stinky is the man!..
Top boy ✊
The political aspect is rubbish, like they simply had to acknowledge it as relevant to not lose aggro points, but for a band talking to media etc they're legit. That's just my impression though.
Low budget for the west end 😂😂😂😂👍🍺
I speak English and I can’t understand a damn word
Broke about TWO legs? Good guess :)
lol
West Ham ICF. I Cant Fight lol
Ok Brian.
Probably the ultimate keyboard warrior comment
Top man
Oi!
Stinky turner legend
I admired the Cockney Rejects back in the day.
But then music moved on, and so did they. The Rejects became a hard rock band and produced some great music. It's sad to hear this frontman almost bragging about hooliganism all these years later. It's so mindless and puerile.
Yeah but that's how it.was back then! It's a part of what happened, like it or lump it!
ecopunk66 why is he boasting about it now, its pathetic
Neil W it's not really boasting from his side
He's not boasting at all, he's answering questions and stating how he's not proud of what he got involved in. The same hypocrites criticising here probably pay-to-view 2 boxers knocking each other around a ring - how pathetic is that?
I feel like after that riot where the Rejects were fighting for their lives and tons of people were fucked up and it derailed their career and oi in general they probably could have turned it around but given their political climate in the UK and the environment they had been raised in that they were pushed towards whatever kept things moving. Ultimately it was shortsighted. But whatever. Those early singles and the first two LP's are copied by most bands (predecessors like Cock Sparrer notwithstanding) and always poorly. Major Accident, The Rejects, and Sparrer had the best oi! hooks of all time.
Working class is nearly all gone
Punk was middle class hedonism, I've no time for 'ex-punks' views, why do you think working class punks were viewed as such scum and degenerates while all these buzz-bands in London were seen as visionaries and revolutionaries?
CallitHowISeeIt bingo
You’ve right there. Punk in Britain was as classist as anything. The middle class ‘ intellectuals ‘ only needed an instant of Nazis or Thuggery at one of the more gritty bands’ shows and the whole scene got demonised . 👍🐢
remember seeing them in paisley they shat it 🏴
Your been reading to many fairytales 😂
My mate Chad was at that gig in The Bungalow and they absolutely smashed it. He has loved them ever since. Jeff n co, decent and talented. Chad and i walked through the Winter Gardens, DECADES later, Jeff REMEMBERED his name. That is class...end of 🦁💕
@@jackiemills5750 they were a bit scared 😱 up there in my opinion with the pistols n clash one of my fav bands that night was absolutely mental 👌
Londonstam 😂
Some people just never grow up...give it a rest its old school now 😴
Hate West Ham KRO
Hey wait.. Why's he so tan?
Mass blood vessel bursting from the beer?
some cockneys have a touch of the tar brush? either that or he has been on tour
Im for ever rimming pennant
who's thick?
You most excellent bunch of yobbos.
Them and there fans took right liberty's with Chelsea fans at electric ballroom back in the day
XD