If I make 2 packs of this parallel-series, will I get a 48v 400amp system, if so, I will I connect them? Pls your swift response is highly needed. Thanx! Your humble subscriber.
7 yrs later and still teaching.... Thanks for this video, very simple clear n useful... Question... Can I do this connection in parallel-series configuration, as here you guys did a series-parallel... Thanks!
In series/parallel wiring , for figuring charging voltage. How many cells do I use in the multiplier 8cell x 3.4v. Or 16cell x 3.4v.? I have. 4. , 12.8v batteries .
to create a 12 volt 4 batt bank of old 12 volt batteries to run a power inverter pos to pos neg to neg down the line, where do the solar or batt charger clamps go? same as how u tested with the meter first and last battery?
Hi Let me make this clear and I hope you respond I have just bought 2 x 2000 w KRIEGER INVERTERS Plugged them onto 6 x 1000 ah connected in series at home and one blew up the other does not even work as it should WHY ? What size Inverter should you have if say the Voltage I tested says 64 VOLTS From the Solar to the Battery readings ? get back t o me please ASAP Troy
Without know what inverter or what batteries you are using, we can only hazard a guess that you have 12V inverters and you've put 12V batteries in series to get 64V into them. That would likely be why they don't work. If you put your batteries in parallel, you would be keeping the voltage to 12V. We would need to get far more information than what you've provided to be absolutely sure, but our strong recommendation is that you engage a professional solar installer to help you with your installation. It's far cheaper to hire an expert than to continue to replace expensive power electronics.
What porpose is it to combine both series and parallel? Seems to me that you want 12V with 460AH in Parallel that gives you longer lasting power. Simple demonstration of different hook ups but No demonstration on why you want one or the other which is really what most are wanting the answer too...Right?🙄
Question: If you have a 7amp hr battery and connect it to a 48 hr amp battery (Both 12 volts) do you risk blowing the lower amp battery with to many amps going to it?...Also, if I get a 7 amp rechargeable battery and hook it to a stereo and plug it into your car cigarrette lighter (power supply) would it blow the battery?....Thanks
i have, 12 and 12 in parallel ,in series with another 12 and 12 in parallel to get my 24 volts. but can't monitor /balance, each of the 4 12 volt batteries. in your last configuration, you have ,12 and 12 in series ,in parallel with another 12 and 12 in series to get my 24 volts. will i be able to monitor /balance/ charge, each of the 4, 12 volt batteries in your last configuration?
immrnoidall we don’t think you will be able to do that, you can probably charge and monitor the 2 x 24V banks. If balancing and monitoring is a concern, due to multiple heavy cycles, our recommendation is to use larger capacity 6 volt batteries that are all connected in series, this eliminates the battery imbalance and multiple parallel string issues.
@@CanadianEnergy i am trying to prevent a single 12 battery ,from getting too low. when using your last configuration of ,[ 12 and 12 in series ,in parallel with another 12 and 12 in series to get my 24 volts ] would i see a single battery voltage across its +/- terminals?
This was the clearest out there I've come across, ty ♡ I have a question, I run a 12 volt system and am thinking of running it 24 volt ... four 12 volt 125amph agm batteries at the moment.... so right now my amp hours are 500 if I'm correct? But if I do a 24 volt they will be at 250? Which is better? The volts? Or the amp hours? Offgrid, northern mn
jo lee If your batteries are connected in parallel, you connect to the negative terminal on one end of the battery bank and the positive off the other end of the battery bank, never connect the pos and neg off the same battery in a parallel bank. Hope that helps. ✌🏼🇨🇦
@@CanadianEnergy Hi there. I have 3 , 12 volt 185 ah and one 165 ah 12 volt battery. want to increase capacity of my battery bank. how I have to do my battery connections? have a 2.2 kw solar system
loser 3009 Usually series parallel sets are all connected to charge and discharge together, it depends what your voltage and configuration is. Hope that helps. ✌🏼🇨🇦
hello sir. im in big trouble. i have connected 7 battery in parallel. its lifepo4 with each battery 6000mah. but im still getting the final mah as 6000. though by theory, i should get around 6×7 = 42000mah. can u explain why ? Although the voltage increased correctly when connected in series. So no problem there. Kindly explain.
if i have 4 batteries and want to do a 24V system, is it better to hook them up into: 2 in series + 2 in series and those in paralel or 2 parallel + 2 parallel and those in series ? as allways there are folks that say the first is better and other say the latter is better ...
I would also like to know the answer to Broxin'e question. I have a 24v setup like his 1st example which is normally charged by a 24v solar array. I was thinking that if I wanted to top off the batteries with my 12v battery chargers (I have 2 of the exact same model), it might be easier to charge them if they were hooked up like example #2. Am I correct in thinking that I could charge both 12v parallel battery banks at the same time using the 2 chargers and maybe not even have to disconnect the parallel connection between the battery banks? Right now when I've topped them off, I break the parallel connection between the battery banks (so as not to create an imbalance), charge both 12v batteries in 1 series bank at the same time, then charge the other series bank then re-establish the parallel connection. Thanks in advance!
Matrix it’s recommended to use identical batteries when operating in series, if they are the same batteries there should be very little difference. For mismatched batteries .25 volts would be a maximum but they should also be the same capacity. Hope that helps. ✌🏼🇨🇦
I B If it was a series parallel connection it might be possible but when connected all in parallel there is going to be a big imbalance due to capacity difference. Hope that helps.
Ok so given an qty of batteries hooked to say a solar array system. What is the best way to wire up that bank of batteries. For instance if I had say 12 batteries in a bank. Would it be best to wire the batteries in series in sets of 4 and then wire the 3 banks in parallel. Or would it be best to make it 4 banks of 3 ( wired in parallel ) then connected in series? How does parallel vs series affect the batteries when being discharged or being charged. My question comes from this video: ua-cam.com/video/Rh9eEw-W3Lc/v-deo.html Where someone, with supposed experience, says that the banks should be wired into 3 batteries in parallel and 4 banks in series.
How do I connect 10 batteries to 1 charger for Perfect Balanced Charging I am trying to connect 10x 100AH 12v Deep Cycle batteries to a true 10kw inverter. I also have a processor controller constant current 80AMP charger. I am planning to run a mobile office. I need 12v battery bank. All these equipment are brand new and I have them sitting in my garage. Initially I thought I will just connect all batteries in parallel. Connect the charger and load on opposite extreme ends. But after reading this article, www.iotaengineering.com/pplib/balancedcharging.pdf, I came to know that the charging current from charger, or the load current when running inverter is not equally distributed. In above article this method is explained under {Method 1: Balanced Charging}. I want to use Method-2 for perfectly balanced charging. I am not able to figure out so far how to connect 10 batteries using perfectly balanced charging method. So that every battery gets 4AMP when charger is supplying 80AMP current. I asked my nephew, who is fresh graduate electrical engineer worked for NASA, he was unable to answer this question. I asked my uncle, who is PhD Electrical Engineer, he was unable to help me. I find is so strange that all these people with degrees cannot solve this simple problem. I am sure, there is someone out there who is smart enough to figure this out. Please Help.
sam riaz am not certain there is a way to “perfectly balance” charge and load on 10 batteries in parallel and that is why we generally recommend fewer larger batteries to get to the same total amp hours of storage. My preferred way of connecting many parallel string is to make identical parallel cables, they must all be identical even if some seem longer than required. Bring all parallel cables to a busbar, one for positive and one for negative. You will then connect the charge and discharge lines to the busbar and this will help minimize imbalances in the charge and discharge. Periodic equalization charges (if the battery chemistry allows equalization) will help keep the batteries at the same state of charge. The heavier the cable and busbars in a battery bank like this the better. Thank you. ✌🏼🇨🇦
when creating a proper battery bank for power storage in an offgrid situation you want to use a parallel-series connection. so you can balance your batteries properly. 3.2v 200 AH with 3 batteries giving you 3.2 v 600 AH then you connect eight sets of those 3 battereis in parallel only in series giving you 25.6 v x 600AH = 15,260WH of power or just over 15 KWH of power in the battery bank with a proper balanceable battery bank. if you go series parallel you will not be able to balance the batteries properly and that is what most people do. they put together batteries into 24v or 48 volts then put those together to build up your AH totally messing up your ability to balance your battery bank. the reason most people do this is because they have 12 volt batteries available but today we use Lifepo4 batteries which are 3.2 volts and putting those together like I already pointed out in parallel series you will be able to set them up really well with a battery balancing system which will give you a lot of life in your battery bank without you loosing batteries because of one getting out of balance with another one. they will all stay in balance with each other using parallel series. I used 3P8S in my example. use that system and you will have batteries that will stay in balance for a long long time without the chance of going out of balance and blowing up on you or having a run away cell in your battery bank.
the other way around is what i see: Any 12 V li-po is 4x3.2 in series,then parallel the 12 volts bats; you sure par-ser is the best way? i see ser-par all over
I am wiring in 4 200 amp hour 6 volt batteries to my 24 volt hybrid inverter Mppt and this video helped me a ton. Thank you!
Excellent, great demo - best and clearest I've seen - thank you!
Wow! Ammazing shortest and completed video.
a big big thanks, you made it easy to understand
Thank you so much! That's just what I wanted! Wiring for dummies.
M. Green you are very welcome. ✌🏼🇨🇦
@@CanadianEnergy Thanks, Yeah a lot of these guys if you ask them what time it is they tell you how to build a watch.
@@CanadianEnergy what if connect two 12v,180 AH in parallel with one 12v,180 AH battery in series?
❤Love the idea that's what I am planning on doing
If I make 2 packs of this parallel-series, will I get a 48v 400amp system, if so, I will I connect them?
Pls your swift response is highly needed. Thanx! Your humble subscriber.
Did you get a answer
thank you very much for this clear and very usefull video
After a lot of looking and listening to uhmmms and ahhhs - I run across this - thank you for a clear clean explaination! (Finally!)
4:00 in this series-parallel configuration what terminals would be used for charging and discharging?
7 yrs later and still teaching.... Thanks for this video, very simple clear n useful... Question... Can I do this connection in parallel-series configuration, as here you guys did a series-parallel...
Thanks!
In series/parallel wiring , for figuring charging voltage.
How many cells do I use in the multiplier 8cell x 3.4v. Or 16cell x 3.4v.?
I have. 4. , 12.8v batteries .
Question? I have a deep cell battery 80 amph, can I join a 100 amph together TO get 180 amph together at 12volt . Please reply.
a series of 2 parallels,possile,better or worse?
Super clear explanation !! Thx !!
new rookie here: So I'm wondering🤔🤔, why 230ah as against 300amph(150ah+150ah)?
to create a 12 volt 4 batt bank of old 12 volt batteries to run a power inverter pos to pos neg to neg down the line, where do the solar or batt charger clamps go? same as how u tested with the meter first and last battery?
Thanks. The clearest ive seen.
Hi Let me make this clear and I hope you respond I have just bought 2 x 2000 w KRIEGER INVERTERS Plugged them onto 6 x 1000 ah connected in series at home and one blew up the other does not even work as it should WHY ?
What size Inverter should you have if say the Voltage I tested says 64 VOLTS From the Solar to the Battery readings ? get back t o me please ASAP Troy
Without know what inverter or what batteries you are using, we can only hazard a guess that you have 12V inverters and you've put 12V batteries in series to get 64V into them. That would likely be why they don't work. If you put your batteries in parallel, you would be keeping the voltage to 12V.
We would need to get far more information than what you've provided to be absolutely sure, but our strong recommendation is that you engage a professional solar installer to help you with your installation. It's far cheaper to hire an expert than to continue to replace expensive power electronics.
Can you put six 12 volt batteries in series parrallel to make 24 volt or you gotta go with 8 batteries
I know have 4 but i want to upgrade
Is it ok to series or parallel two batteries in same specification but different brands.?
Good work. please how can i connect this to my UPS?
What porpose is it to combine both series and parallel?
Seems to me that you want 12V with 460AH in Parallel that gives you longer lasting power.
Simple demonstration of different hook ups but No demonstration on why you want one or the other which is really what most are wanting the answer too...Right?🙄
fantastic - clear
Clear explanations about making series and parallel. However, it doesn't tell me much when I would want to get more voltage or more Amps..
Question: If you have a 7amp hr battery and connect it to a 48 hr amp battery (Both 12 volts) do you risk blowing the lower amp battery with to many amps going to it?...Also, if I get a 7 amp rechargeable battery and hook it to a stereo and plug it into your car cigarrette lighter (power supply) would it blow the battery?....Thanks
Could you explain why my agm scooter battery says it is a u1-31ah , but it also says 20ah .
thank you guys i had a burning question on (series peralell) for doubling voltage and amperage...thank you would recomend to someone
Thanks very heipful
Can you connect two 6v battery with one 12v battery
i have, 12 and 12 in parallel ,in series with another 12 and 12 in parallel to get my 24 volts. but can't monitor /balance, each of the 4 12 volt batteries. in your last configuration, you have ,12 and 12 in series ,in parallel with another 12 and 12 in series to get my 24 volts. will i be able to monitor /balance/ charge, each of the 4, 12 volt batteries in your last configuration?
immrnoidall we don’t think you will be able to do that, you can probably charge and monitor the 2 x 24V banks. If balancing and monitoring is a concern, due to multiple heavy cycles, our recommendation is to use larger capacity 6 volt batteries that are all connected in series, this eliminates the battery imbalance and multiple parallel string issues.
@@CanadianEnergy i think i should have gone with the 48 volt inverter / charger instead of 24.
@@CanadianEnergy i am trying to prevent a single 12 battery ,from getting too low. when using your last configuration of ,[ 12 and 12 in series ,in parallel with another 12 and 12 in series to get my 24 volts ] would i see a single battery voltage across its +/- terminals?
can 24 volt 4 batteries be wired in series with inverter of 24v
Onder standing very good thanks😊
What size cable wire to connect 2 batteries?
Backup will increase ornot
This was the clearest out there I've come across, ty ♡ I have a question, I run a 12 volt system and am thinking of running it 24 volt ... four 12 volt 125amph agm batteries at the moment.... so right now my amp hours are 500 if I'm correct? But if I do a 24 volt they will be at 250? Which is better? The volts? Or the amp hours?
Offgrid, northern mn
Both banks will have the same watt-hours of storage. Lower amperage on the higher voltage battery bank can help with efficiency. Does that help?
@@CanadianEnergy sure does, thank you so veru much!
@@HousewifeInTheWoods our pleasure. 🇨🇦✌🏼
Can you do parallel:series to achieve the same result as series:parallel?
nice work
manikandarajan 3D thank you so much! ✌🏼🇨🇦
guys that was great 👍 thanks very much 👌
Alan Holder thanks for the feedback! ✌🏼🇨🇦
Does this work on American Batteries?!
So what positive and negative do I pull off of when hooking up to the charge control and inverter?
jo lee If your batteries are connected in parallel, you connect to the negative terminal on one end of the battery bank and the positive off the other end of the battery bank, never connect the pos and neg off the same battery in a parallel bank. Hope that helps. ✌🏼🇨🇦
@@CanadianEnergy Hi there. I have 3 , 12 volt 185 ah and one 165 ah 12 volt battery. want to increase capacity of my battery bank. how I have to do my battery connections? have a 2.2 kw solar system
@@CanadianEnergy Hey. How to do 36v series parallel connection?
can we charge the final series-parallel set together? how?
loser 3009 Usually series parallel sets are all connected to charge and discharge together, it depends what your voltage and configuration is. Hope that helps. ✌🏼🇨🇦
@@CanadianEnergy ok sir. thanks.
Can you do it with 6x12 v batteries in series/parralel to make 24 volt?
THANKYOU FELLAS.
Would changing the voltage damage anything
hello sir. im in big trouble. i have connected 7 battery in parallel. its lifepo4 with each battery 6000mah. but im still getting the final mah as 6000. though by theory, i should get around 6×7 = 42000mah. can u explain why ?
Although the voltage increased correctly when connected in series. So no problem there.
Kindly explain.
if i have 4 batteries and want to do a 24V system, is it better to hook them up into:
2 in series + 2 in series and those in paralel or
2 parallel + 2 parallel and those in series ?
as allways there are folks that say the first is better and other say the latter is better ...
I would also like to know the answer to Broxin'e question. I have a 24v setup like his 1st example which is normally charged by a 24v solar array. I was thinking that if I wanted to top off the batteries with my 12v battery chargers (I have 2 of the exact same model), it might be easier to charge them if they were hooked up like example #2. Am I correct in thinking that I could charge both 12v parallel battery banks at the same time using the 2 chargers and maybe not even have to disconnect the parallel connection between the battery banks? Right now when I've topped them off, I break the parallel connection between the battery banks (so as not to create an imbalance), charge both 12v batteries in 1 series bank at the same time, then charge the other series bank then re-establish the parallel connection. Thanks in advance!
Mark Swink so what is your question? 😄
I found answer on Battery Tender website that will work in my situation: www.batterytender.com/site/batterytender/images/series12.gif
Mark Swink ive got an answer from a german guy. He made a video about it. The second example is way better in many ways for the batterys
Mark Swink will you connect W3 as you hook up the two chargers?
what happens to the AH of the battery if it is connected in series-parallel?
How can connect 6 12 v to get 48v
Series connection- voltage is increased and amperage stays the same. Parallel connection- amperage is increased and voltage stays the same
Perfect explanation thank you Guys
Thank you!!
Ander standing very good thanks
good stuff aye
Can connect different ampere batteries with one charger & with load
when you set the 2 batteries parallel to get 12 volts can they both get charge at the same time ?
yes,absolutely.
How close should the voltage be for the batts in series? How much voltage differential is ok?
Matrix it’s recommended to use identical batteries when operating in series, if they are the same batteries there should be very little difference. For mismatched batteries .25 volts would be a maximum but they should also be the same capacity. Hope that helps. ✌🏼🇨🇦
@@CanadianEnergy Hi. Nice explanation. Thank you. How about same voltage but different capacity? I have 12v 35ah and 12v 60ah. Can I have 12v 95ah?
I B If it was a series parallel connection it might be possible but when connected all in parallel there is going to be a big imbalance due to capacity difference. Hope that helps.
woooo felicitaciones Giovanni muy
thanks very much
very clear, thank.
Ok so given an qty of batteries hooked to say a solar array system. What is the best way to wire up that bank of batteries.
For instance if I had say 12 batteries in a bank.
Would it be best to wire the batteries in series in sets of 4 and then wire the 3 banks in parallel.
Or would it be best to make it 4 banks of 3 ( wired in parallel ) then connected in series?
How does parallel vs series affect the batteries when being discharged or being charged.
My question comes from this video: ua-cam.com/video/Rh9eEw-W3Lc/v-deo.html
Where someone, with supposed experience, says that the banks should be wired into 3 batteries in parallel and 4 banks in series.
thankyou!
Ben Schmidt you are very welcome! 🇨🇦👌🏼
The video is mechanical. Very I learned this put three batteries in parallel and hook the last on up in series. And see what you get.
🙏🏼 #VOLTINU
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How do I charge the batteries in series at once
How do I connect 10 batteries to 1 charger for Perfect Balanced Charging
I am trying to connect 10x 100AH 12v Deep Cycle batteries to a true 10kw inverter. I also have a processor controller constant current 80AMP charger. I am planning to run a mobile office. I need 12v battery bank. All these equipment are brand new and I have them sitting in my garage. Initially I thought I will just connect all batteries in parallel. Connect the charger and load on opposite extreme ends. But after reading this article, www.iotaengineering.com/pplib/balancedcharging.pdf, I came to know that the charging current from charger, or the load current when running inverter is not equally distributed. In above article this method is explained under {Method 1: Balanced Charging}. I want to use Method-2 for perfectly balanced charging. I am not able to figure out so far how to connect 10 batteries using perfectly balanced charging method. So that every battery gets 4AMP when charger is supplying 80AMP current. I asked my nephew, who is fresh graduate electrical engineer worked for NASA, he was unable to answer this question. I asked my uncle, who is PhD Electrical Engineer, he was unable to help me. I find is so strange that all these people with degrees cannot solve this simple problem. I am sure, there is someone out there who is smart enough to figure this out. Please Help.
sam riaz am not certain there is a way to “perfectly balance” charge and load on 10 batteries in parallel and that is why we generally recommend fewer larger batteries to get to the same total amp hours of storage.
My preferred way of connecting many parallel string is to make identical parallel cables, they must all be identical even if some seem longer than required. Bring all parallel cables to a busbar, one for positive and one for negative. You will then connect the charge and discharge lines to the busbar and this will help minimize imbalances in the charge and discharge.
Periodic equalization charges (if the battery chemistry allows equalization) will help keep the batteries at the same state of charge.
The heavier the cable and busbars in a battery bank like this the better.
Thank you. ✌🏼🇨🇦
when creating a proper battery bank for power storage in an offgrid situation you want to use a parallel-series connection. so you can balance your batteries properly. 3.2v 200 AH with 3 batteries giving you 3.2 v 600 AH then you connect eight sets of those 3 battereis in parallel only in series giving you 25.6 v x 600AH = 15,260WH of power or just over 15 KWH of power in the battery bank with a proper balanceable battery bank. if you go series parallel you will not be able to balance the batteries properly and that is what most people do. they put together batteries into 24v or 48 volts then put those together to build up your AH totally messing up your ability to balance your battery bank. the reason most people do this is because they have 12 volt batteries available but today we use Lifepo4 batteries which are 3.2 volts and putting those together like I already pointed out in parallel series you will be able to set them up really well with a battery balancing system which will give you a lot of life in your battery bank without you loosing batteries because of one getting out of balance with another one. they will all stay in balance with each other using parallel series. I used 3P8S in my example. use that system and you will have batteries that will stay in balance for a long long time without the chance of going out of balance and blowing up on you or having a run away cell in your battery bank.
the other way around is what i see: Any 12 V li-po is 4x3.2 in series,then parallel the 12 volts bats; you sure par-ser is the best way? i see ser-par all over
now i unders tand,,thanks for this..
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Canadian were in the US num nuts