Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Review: Ray Tracing For The Masses?

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  • Опубліковано 6 січ 2019
  • How fast is Nvidia's cut-price ray tracing GPU, the RTX 2060? Can it match or beat GTX 1070 Ti or even GTX 1080? And if the hardware has been downgraded for mainstream budgets, are the ray tracing features actually useful - in short, how well does it run Battlefield 5 RTX? In this detailed review, you'll get all the benches you'll need, you'll see Turing VRS technology analysed - and yes, you'll get to see BF5 running with RT enabled on the new hardware.
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  • @youniplays7523
    @youniplays7523 5 років тому +446

    they're keeping the same price for the older cards and demanding more money for new cards . this is not how it should be the old cards should drop the price and keep the same price for every new card generation . it's simply a scam that people are not aware of.

    • @trafalgarlaw6549
      @trafalgarlaw6549 5 років тому +29

      Hope Amd gives us an option, to force nVidia to lower the prices.

    • @C_Neutral
      @C_Neutral 5 років тому +38

      Only if you just pay attention to the naming scheme. If you go by that alone, then yeah, each tier has gotten a massive price bump. But if you go by price-to-performance, this generation is largely the same as the last. 1080 performance(2070) costs roughly the same as before, 1080 Ti performance(2080) costs roughly the same as before, etc. The 2060 is the first of the RTX line to actually bring the performance of a last gen tier down a price bracket, allowing you to get 1070 Ti performance for $100 less than the 1070 Ti's asking price.
      The 2080 Ti arguably does that too by bringing Titan V gaming performance down from $3000 to $1000, but I don't count that for obvious reasons.

    • @TheRealJohnHooper
      @TheRealJohnHooper 5 років тому +15

      Please stop crying..

    • @ut2k4wikichici
      @ut2k4wikichici 5 років тому +3

      Exactly just buy a used 1080ti or 56

    • @CrazyWeeMonkey
      @CrazyWeeMonkey 5 років тому +24

      @@C_Neutral
      The price to performance should not be the same as Pascal which released almost 3 years ago

  • @techntools
    @techntools 5 років тому +21

    I like how the pc master race make fun of consoles for their performance yet can't justify shelling out $350 which is cheaper than high end consoles to acquire graphics way beyond anything those consoles can produce.

    • @postscriptum8142
      @postscriptum8142 5 років тому +2

      These few people don't speak for everybody, surprise, a console slave says shit.

    • @mjolnir112
      @mjolnir112 5 років тому +1

      It is hilarious

    • @computron5824
      @computron5824 5 років тому +2

      Spot on observation. There was one comment that contrasted nvidia's pricing with stagnant wages. It's like we're talking about college tuition here...

    • @strangefruitlovex
      @strangefruitlovex 5 років тому

      But there choice

  • @aL3891_
    @aL3891_ 5 років тому +4

    Happy new year rich! how's that voice though? got a cold or did you just go all out on that DF new years party? :)

  • @rupal_hs
    @rupal_hs 5 років тому +340

    4:49 RIP aim :D

    • @SeeASquaRE
      @SeeASquaRE 5 років тому +22

      Witchard only plays Witcher 3 well. That too he just likes to ride his horse around in the game to take in that quality LOD settings.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 5 років тому +8

      Why do they even play with a controller?

    • @TakaChan569
      @TakaChan569 5 років тому +5

      @@wile123456 Has nothing to do with the controller, it's the user.

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou 5 років тому +19

      @@wile123456 to get smoother non-jerky movements in game they said on a previous video

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 5 років тому +2

      @@WayStedYou even if they use a mouse they don't have to do flick shots.

  • @Vextime77
    @Vextime77 5 років тому +151

    Well priced? it's mid range $350+ bullshit. We have had this performance for the past two years with more vram in the 1070.

    • @f.a.i9638
      @f.a.i9638 5 років тому +7

      It ain't bad... It's still a 1070ti/1080 (A tad faster or slower) Also did you expect 200$?
      I expected 320$.
      It's quite ok..but true. DEVs need more time with this in a year or so It will probably be pretty good.
      But a year or two is to much.. Even if it's the standard time to see if new tech will succeed or fail. Talking about ray tracing.

    • @buff_daddyclub9539
      @buff_daddyclub9539 5 років тому +19

      It beats 1070 in benchmarks specially productivity
      And smokes 580

    • @joramasama8777
      @joramasama8777 5 років тому +1

      I don’t agree with newer better product should cost lot more, when they meant to be sell in the same ball park, I understand if they will cost 10-20 dollars more but this is not make sense, it should be replace of technology not throw premium product in the lower name line, if 2050ti and 2050 will cost 80-100 more this is no longer funny

    • @hurrdurrimaburr
      @hurrdurrimaburr 5 років тому +1

      @@joramasama8777 People who don't understand production costs and pricing should keep their thoughts to themselves.

    • @f.a.i9638
      @f.a.i9638 5 років тому +1

      @@joramasama8777 I bet no 2050ti this gen. But you get new tech that might become the future, so take it like this, you get better performance (BTW ON THE FIRST FEW DRIVERS WILL IMPROVE).
      Matching a 1070ti in older games and and performing in between 1070ti and 1080 on newer games.
      Simply ain't bad for 350. And this is release price keep in mind.

  • @SuperSolshy
    @SuperSolshy 5 років тому +23

    Got this card for 250 a week ago and I absolutely love it, seriously underrated.

    • @derekfurst6233
      @derekfurst6233 5 років тому +3

      where did you get it?

    • @sambarker5294
      @sambarker5294 4 роки тому +2

      Got mine for 280 but the ASUS TUF OC one lol. Seriously happy with it at 1080 or 1440

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 роки тому

      get it for last year laptop... fine.. but it is very good in certain game... now all my gtx laptop is dead

    • @anusmcgee4150
      @anusmcgee4150 2 роки тому +2

      God I wish 2060's were still 250

    • @shanetanner4654
      @shanetanner4654 2 роки тому

      @@anusmcgee4150 dude i just got a whole gaming pc with ryzen 7 3700x , 16gb 3200mhz ram, RTX 2060 zotac amp editon 6b, 250gb ssd. for 340$ bucks a month ago from some dude, who might have really been needing the money ..

  • @TheGoodOldGamer
    @TheGoodOldGamer 5 років тому +59

    I wouldn't say people were wrong Richard. At $349 this is an X70 (Low High-end) class GPU, not a GTX 1060 (Mainstream) replacement. In that regard I'd argue there still ISN'T a Mainstream RTX (Raytracing) card.

    • @Ford-wt8rn
      @Ford-wt8rn 5 років тому

      Maybe the price will drop when AMD finally gets their shit together with GPU's. Nvidia should have an 1160 though, same performance with rasterization as 2060 but $250.

    • @gourdtaste6018
      @gourdtaste6018 5 років тому +3

      Performance wise it does not. We're comparing it to 2 and 3 year old cards effectively. In a less than horrible market (aka current state) this would have been mocked at as a ridiculously poor offering. Price hike combined with a very small performance gain that is mostly down to nvidia's poor DX12 performance on the the previous 2 generations of product... To be plain, the performance on this card in different times would have been what you'd be getting from a 150-200$ price range xx50 type offering. This RTX is a terrible product lineup from nvidia for anyone with half a brain. Unless you've a very deep wallet in which case.. im not sure anything matters, and you sure as hell wouldnt be buying this card anyway.

    • @startechno6980
      @startechno6980 5 років тому

      In Us nvidia can sell the card for 349 dollar in other countries the final price is a lot higer ,a 349 dollar card will cost at best 390 euro in my country..

    • @DualPerformance
      @DualPerformance 5 років тому +4

      ​@@gourdtaste6018 you forget that this card does not have rival in their price/performance segment, at 349$ is a lot better value than the 1070 Ti and Vega 56 - 64, stop being a fanboy writing such long coment for nothing

    • @TheGoodOldGamer
      @TheGoodOldGamer 5 років тому

      @@startechno6980 Ooof that is rough

  • @Phynix72
    @Phynix72 5 років тому +34

    Rich! Did we lost you in 2018 ?
    Is $350 really a price for masses ?

  • @rcontrerastaule
    @rcontrerastaule 5 років тому +144

    Midrange card with a not midrange price great... The GPU & RAM price is was keeping me away of building a new PC.

    • @AntonioCunningham
      @AntonioCunningham 5 років тому +4

      Same here.

    • @totty2524
      @totty2524 5 років тому +3

      Midrange? This is a low end card, it's literally one of the cheapest cards for them to produce. Just like the 1060 is low end, the 2060 is also low end, but with a midend price tag. Prices should drop significantly though, with the amd navi cards (hopefully).

    • @hurrdurrimaburr
      @hurrdurrimaburr 5 років тому +3

      @@totty2524 Mid range price tag with last gen mid range performance. It's a massive performance leap from a 1060 to a 2060, 59% in some games. Not to mention what features like CAS and DLSS brings to the table.
      Prices won't drop. not by much atleast. These cards cost a fuck ton to produce with the 12nm process since the chip is so massive. Next Nvidia gen will probably go back to last generation MSRP since they'll probably move to 7nm.

    • @totty2524
      @totty2524 5 років тому

      ​@@hurrdurrimaburr Sure, it performs a lot better, but it doesn't mean it's not low end. The "60" on the nomenclature says it all -- it's a cheap card to make, it shouldn't be bought at midrange price. Where did you read that 12nm is so much more expensive to produce than the 14nm and 16nm processes of pascal? How do you know the difference in price is big enough to justify such a massive raise in prices?

    • @hurrdurrimaburr
      @hurrdurrimaburr 5 років тому +3

      @@totty2524 Cheaper than a 2070 or 2080, yes. But it's alot more costly to make than the previous generation.
      And how do you not realise that such a massive die is more expensive to produce? The 1060 has a 200 mm² die. The 2060 has a 445mm2. They're making the same profit margins on these cards as the previous gen, because they cost more to produce.
      The 2080 has a marginally larger die than the 1080ti which shares die size with the Titan X, landing at the same price. The 2080ti has the largest die of them all at a whopping 754 mm², it's massive.
      The 7nm die shrink will bring production costs down.

  • @Agn0sticus
    @Agn0sticus 5 років тому +3

    Wichards gestures are the BEST, like right at the beginning 0:02

  • @jazzmelendez4868
    @jazzmelendez4868 5 років тому

    Great video buddy, very informative keep them coming

  • @koilkondaraviteja9945
    @koilkondaraviteja9945 5 років тому +82

    I'll just wait for the next gen cards..the tech is in it's infancy,just let it mature,I'm sure it will be juicy to devour at the right time..lol😉

    • @__G___
      @__G___ 5 років тому +2

      This is the next gen cards 😂🤣😂 pc is a scam 😂🤣😂

    • @koilkondaraviteja9945
      @koilkondaraviteja9945 5 років тому +4

      @@__G___ I mean the next gen RTX cards...when amd releases it's open source solutions and when prices will be competitive.consumer will be the final winner then

    • @sneakybobinson3252
      @sneakybobinson3252 5 років тому +9

      @@__G___ Is your comment really that funny...?

    • @Peh84
      @Peh84 5 років тому

      If RTX is all you care about, then wait for another gen. But if you want 4k or better performance in VR, then go for it.

    • @cunt5413
      @cunt5413 5 років тому +5

      Load¡ng oh, enjoy the newest tech on your console then. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TheCooperman666
    @TheCooperman666 5 років тому +195

    Ray Tracing For The Masses?
    not at 350-400 bucks

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 5 років тому +2

      TheCooperman666 I would buy it at 350dollars in an instant. Sadly here in europe you still dont get a 1070 for that kind money. It will probably be 400€ here.

    • @link2dpast
      @link2dpast 5 років тому +18

      I thought RTX 2080 Ti's $1000+ price tag was too expensive for the masses. Now a $350 Raytraced enabled card is also too expensive? That's cheaper than an Xbox One X. How cheap are you?

    • @teehundeart
      @teehundeart 5 років тому +23

      @@link2dpast xbox is a complete package, whereas the 2060 is just one component

    • @canuckcanadian753
      @canuckcanadian753 5 років тому +1

      @@bingobongo1615 I mean is 50 bucks that big of a deal? In the grand scheme of things no?

    • @link2dpast
      @link2dpast 5 років тому +9

      @@teehundeart
      You only build your PC from scratch once. Unless you are overhauling your PC, most subsequent upgrades are one component at a time. CPU and RAM requirements don't change as sporadically as GPU requirements. In the long run (because gaming is a long-term hobby), you end up paying less for performance that outclasses consoles because, after the initial investment, upgrading is mostly one component at a time. It's fair to assume that most people watching this are not looking to overhaul their rig.
      TL;DR: Upgrading to a more powerful console ALWAYS requires a complete system overhaul. Upgrading to a more powerful PC does not. It's apples to oranges.

  • @rollaj0int
    @rollaj0int 5 років тому +130

    Nvidia has the audacity to charge more for these cards yet keep old ones at same price which is ridiculous. I was thinking of upgrading from a 980 but I might just wait for AMD to bring out the 680 or vega/whatever comes next, can't support Nvidia anymore.

    • @holdingholder
      @holdingholder 5 років тому +16

      AMD still charging $500+ for Vega cards, they aren't any better aside from the low range cards they offer.

    • @AdrianMuslim
      @AdrianMuslim 5 років тому +9

      AMD released RX 590 at $280. They won't release any new gtx 1080 equivalent cards under $280. They will also keep the price at least $350

    • @absurdh3ro
      @absurdh3ro 5 років тому +5

      holdingholder their best card Vega 64 goes for 400 routinely with games

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 5 років тому +16

      NVidia's fault?
      Why do you guys keep blaming NVidia when it's market forces that determine price. Companies like EVGA who sell directly or resellers like Amazon, Newegg etc don't give the slightest CRAP about what NVidia thinks the price should be... supply and demand. Card manufacturers buy the GPU's in bulk from NVidia (though they are made by a fab), make cards, then charge what they think gives the best profit margin... it's not complicated guys.. I bet even NVidia's prices end up adjusting to market forces and NOT the other way around.

    • @Phynix72
      @Phynix72 5 років тому +1

      Welcome to realm of enthusiasts.

  • @CustomPCBuilderUK
    @CustomPCBuilderUK 5 років тому

    Excellent analysis as usual. Still lots of exciting announcements to come from CES 2019!

  • @RuiNobrega
    @RuiNobrega 5 років тому

    Another awesome in-depth analysis from the experts. Thank you and keep up the great work.

  • @baholete
    @baholete 5 років тому +81

    350$ is NOT!!! a gpu for the masses, at least not in over 90% of the places in the world.

    • @Phoenix-gz9xb
      @Phoenix-gz9xb 5 років тому +4

      Bro ray tracing, tensor cores, and DLSS is worth it. Trust me

    • @baholete
      @baholete 5 років тому +2

      @@Phoenix-gz9xb
      That doesn't magically transform 350$ into 200$, it still isn't a GPU for the masses.

    • @Phoenix-gz9xb
      @Phoenix-gz9xb 5 років тому +2

      @@baholete it kinda does lol

    • @baholete
      @baholete 5 років тому +3

      @@Phoenix-gz9xb
      Then you need to fire up a couple more of your working neurons, read the initial statement 20 times (or more?) and understand that what you're saying is completely different to what i'm saying. If you still don't get it after, i'll draw you a cute picture so, maybe, you will.

    • @Phoenix-gz9xb
      @Phoenix-gz9xb 5 років тому +2

      @@baholete I don't think you even have the neurons to understand ray tracing lol I will just leave it at that, kid.

  • @kamikazilucas
    @kamikazilucas 5 років тому +77

    costs more than the 1060 did at launch but nowhere near the same leap that the card had

    • @darkwowpg
      @darkwowpg 5 років тому +2

      i got my gtx 1060 2 years ago for 260...

    • @f.a.i9638
      @f.a.i9638 5 років тому +8

      It's vs 1080....

    • @kamikazilucas
      @kamikazilucas 5 років тому +1

      the 1080 is cheaper than 350

    • @f.a.i9638
      @f.a.i9638 5 років тому +16

      @@kamikazilucas you must be talking about used

    • @itsnodee4612
      @itsnodee4612 5 років тому +7

      @@kamikazilucas it's not, not a new one at least.

  • @andremalerba5281
    @andremalerba5281 5 років тому

    Great review John!
    I'm wondering if the RTX perform better in VR when compared to the GTX 1XXX.
    I would love to see Digital Foundry level of review for VR too.

  • @vishnuprasathkv
    @vishnuprasathkv 5 років тому

    Beautifully Covered the 2060 in the video, nicely done guys @DF

  • @robertdunlop5247
    @robertdunlop5247 4 роки тому +4

    Hey DF! Could you please re-review the 2060, a year later? See what's changed and what's up with DLSS 2.0? Does that change things? Have nVidia drivers matured?

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 роки тому

      not enough VRAM... super a bit better but with 30 series are here... well i won't recommend 3060 either since the damn vram for next gen are above 8GB... so in other word.. it best for laptop... not for PC...

    • @robertdunlop5247
      @robertdunlop5247 3 роки тому

      @@campkira if I am buying a new nVidia card in late 2020 it needs to have 16gb of Ram. I think nVidia thinks we'll upgrade in 18 months time...

    • @robertdunlop5247
      @robertdunlop5247 3 роки тому

      @@campkira and yeah, 7 months late. 😊

    • @joshuasylvester6770
      @joshuasylvester6770 3 роки тому

      @@robertdunlop5247 16gb vram??????

    • @robertdunlop5247
      @robertdunlop5247 3 роки тому

      @@joshuasylvester6770 9 months late mate.

  • @professorclup1082
    @professorclup1082 5 років тому +158

    I guess ill still use 1060

    • @Shieftain
      @Shieftain 5 років тому +15

      ayy lmao I'm in the same boat. Going to switch to AMD for my new PC though

    • @eyb0ss
      @eyb0ss 5 років тому +5

      Make the most of it through overclocking, MSI Afterburner's latest beta has unlocked OC Scanner on Pascal cards and auto scans the GPU to find an optimal safe OC on the core clock.

    • @avisso5467
      @avisso5467 5 років тому +1

      heyb0o0o0o0o0o0osS is it any good, mate?

    • @eyb0ss
      @eyb0ss 5 років тому +2

      @@avisso5467 it does a decent job, tried it out on my 1070 and it boosts consistently to 2000+MHz, and also on an MX150 but that's not as high as it's a mobile chip.

    • @samghost13
      @samghost13 5 років тому

      Is the 1060 that 3.5 Gig Card they lied on costumers ?

  • @gregpitta
    @gregpitta 5 років тому

    I believe the presentation would be clearer if you moved the I7 8700K / 3400MHZ DDR4 text to the left along other stuff that doesn't change along the test runs. Otherwise great content as always. Wish you the best.

  • @revenanttech
    @revenanttech 5 років тому

    Yes! Finally! More hardware reviews! Hey whatever happened to your Jaguar vs Ryzen core test you promised? I was really looking forward to it. Take an Athlon 5150 and compare it to a Ryzen 3 Quad Core at clock for clock and 1.6GHZ vs 3.0GHZ with a Vega 64 to see what we might expect for the next consoles please!!!

  • @au50350
    @au50350 5 років тому +63

    Money for RTX: ON (OFF)

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 роки тому

      well rtx3070 go for 500 and that thing still cheap.. if you get super one... but VRAM too small so it better for laptop..

  • @craftycraff7938
    @craftycraff7938 5 років тому +29

    $350 DOLLARS???

    • @wizzgamer
      @wizzgamer 5 років тому +4

      DeadPhoenix86 Geforce 1060 6GB was on par with 980 and was only $240. Times move on this should be priced at mid range prices.

    • @Quacker_Gaming
      @Quacker_Gaming 5 років тому +3

      @@wizzgamer The problem is this isn't a "mid range" card. It's basically still pretty high end. Anyone that owns one will be pushing 144+ fps on many games which is most definitely a high end market. Still consider the 970 and 1060 mid range cards at this point

    • @ericliu8434
      @ericliu8434 5 років тому +1

      @@wizzgamer Take a look at the entirety of gpu history and not only the convenient parts when claiming a precedent.

  • @Sir-Prizse
    @Sir-Prizse 5 років тому +1

    I love this soundtrack in the background.

  • @IrishRumjob
    @IrishRumjob 5 років тому

    I love your detailed reviews on hardware. DF goes above and beyond, once again.

  • @BlueThundah75
    @BlueThundah75 5 років тому +61

    So basically it's faster, but only in the very few games that actually support DLSS. Seems like it's basically 1070ti performance at 1070ti pricing.

    • @CharlesGarwood
      @CharlesGarwood 5 років тому +8

      1070ti £500 ... 2060 £329.. not even close

    • @darkwowpg
      @darkwowpg 5 років тому +22

      @@CharlesGarwood This card will not be 350 at launch. More like 450...

    • @CharlesGarwood
      @CharlesGarwood 5 років тому +9

      @@darkwowpg go on the nvidia website or literally any news article about it. It's £329 ($350).

    • @16valveBravoSpoonz
      @16valveBravoSpoonz 5 років тому +6

      @@CharlesGarwood £329 is a damn good price in the UK, 1070ti/1080 performance, raytracing, dlss. whats not to like about that price. 1080's go used for that price. not sure why everyone is whinging about the price, it stomps the old 1060.

    • @vMaxHeadroom
      @vMaxHeadroom 5 років тому +14

      @@16valveBravoSpoonz Agreed...The madness of some people who are willing to completly give up on reason and intelligence when fan boyism gets in the way...The RTX 2060 launch price $350, The 1070ti launch price $449, the GTX 1080 launch price $599, the Vega 56 launch price $499....Which makes the RTX 2060 actually a pretty good buy and you are getting a lot of power for your money and we are not even talking Ray Tracing or DLSS yet...

  • @jaydaytoday3548
    @jaydaytoday3548 5 років тому +11

    Just because its faster doesnt mean it should cost more. It should be faster and cost the same as last gen 1060.

  • @KorwinAU
    @KorwinAU 5 років тому

    I'm sort of wonder on a more in depth level how Wolf 2's adaptive shading stacks up against Shadow Warrior 2's Multi Res Shading from a couple of years ago.

  • @ax_a-ix6275
    @ax_a-ix6275 5 років тому

    Brilliant work guys, thanks.

  • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
    @PurushNahiMahaPurush 5 років тому +261

    "For the masses"
    Lol yea no...350$ is not exactly "for the masses".

    • @Koeras16
      @Koeras16 5 років тому +9

      Well looking at the market no wonder NVIDIA is charging that much. Waiting for AMD (NAVI) or who knows, Intel may come up with a competitive product.

    • @cahan7033
      @cahan7033 5 років тому +17

      Vaibhav Shah $350 is still affordable for most people, considering that consoles tend to be around the same price when they first launch. Not everyone works at McDonald’s, you ain’t gonna get a $200 card capable of 1080p 60 FPS minimum on new games maxed out sorry to break it to you.

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 5 років тому +4

      ray tracing snake oil, like 99% of people wouldnt know s*** if its real or not, but they notice the price though

    • @f.a.i9638
      @f.a.i9638 5 років тому +2

      @@gamerxt333 Still a good price even if you don't ray trace.
      Basically a 1070ti..
      And ray tracing is a nice bonus

    • @Dennell_Mount_and_Blade
      @Dennell_Mount_and_Blade 5 років тому +8

      Considering the performance of this gpu, 350 dollar is mainstream for the average enthusiast (in the 1st world) but not for the average gamer.

  • @hamarta1006
    @hamarta1006 5 років тому +3

    aahh.. i remember the days when "Mid-Range" gpu is just 200$

  • @forestR1
    @forestR1 5 років тому

    as always, I liked and subscribed.

  • @GameCookerUSRocks
    @GameCookerUSRocks 5 років тому

    I haven't really heard anyone discuss whether you can turn certain other graphical features off/down that won't interfere with the RTX features if you turn them up to save on some frame rates and still have the game look beautiful. Unfortunately I don't have the game so I can't test it on my two cards.

  • @chrcoluk
    @chrcoluk 5 років тому +7

    This is the good RTX card, reasonable price and has a valuable dvi port.
    It looks like the smaller die gives you more performance to die space ratio as well.
    A better buy than the 1070ti assuming retailers dont over stray from the RRP.

  • @apacheY2K
    @apacheY2K 5 років тому +4

    Lol, GPU for the masses..350$ wtf.. Next line of NVIDIA GPUs: equivalent of a 2060 -600$ a GPU for the masses.

  • @watcheem
    @watcheem 5 років тому

    Happy new yeeeear to you too! 👀

  • @RNTV
    @RNTV 5 років тому +1

    I just bought a 2070, haven't even opened the box. I am really contemplating taking it back for a 2060. I have expendable income, but $350 for the 2060 is tempting when I just paid $600 for the 2070. What should I do?

  • @MisterPikol
    @MisterPikol 5 років тому +3

    but can it ray trace richard's untracable hands

  • @bosanac033
    @bosanac033 5 років тому +86

    Vote with your wallet or Nvidia will never change.

    • @mesicek7
      @mesicek7 5 років тому +6

      lol
      You do realize a 2060 is already a better deal than the Vega?

    • @Ztreak
      @Ztreak 5 років тому

      rollandoTech this card is gonna sell enmass.

    • @Getfuqqedfedboy
      @Getfuqqedfedboy 5 років тому +3

      @@Ztreak thats the problem, people dont care if nvidia sold them a bowl of shit with their badge on it, they will buy. $100 more expensive than 1060's MSRP at launch..nvidia is hoping people have short term memory loss (and sadly appears people really do) and saying 1070 performance = 1070 $$$. never mind every other generation prices have been very steady and stable or even reduced between generations before.. 2060 should cost 1060 prices.. same with every other generation before it..

    • @Kankipappa
      @Kankipappa 5 років тому +2

      Yeah, I bought "this" performance level 2,5 years ago with used GTX 980 TI (with waterblock included) which reach close to stock 1080 speeds when oc'd, with 400 euros, so if you subtract the block price from it... Seeing that my card still holds mid to high range slot in performance after 3,5 years from release, It's kinda sad. I didn't think I would hold a used card for 3-4 years at this rate.
      I COULD buy even RTX 2080 TI, but just can't see the value in whole generation, like at all. 10xx generation already felt like a rip off in this sense.

    • @bosanac033
      @bosanac033 5 років тому

      @@CptBrian
      Cool, but I refuse to "pay now"for some "future promises" from Nvidia.

  • @amigoface
    @amigoface 5 років тому +1

    what is the title of the background music please ?

  • @Kysen10
    @Kysen10 5 років тому

    wow a review out already, really fast.

  • @andersonandrighi4539
    @andersonandrighi4539 5 років тому +21

    I must be really poor because 350 US dollars (no taxes) is the card for the masses. I'm destitute. Hope AMD has a better offering or I'm going for console gaming next gen.

    • @orijimi
      @orijimi 5 років тому +2

      What should a graphics card cost? 1 day's work? 2? 3?

    • @andersonandrighi4539
      @andersonandrighi4539 5 років тому +7

      @@orijimi good for you that you make 350 US dollars a day. This means you can afford an RTX 2080Ti and a house in California. Good for you!

    • @orijimi
      @orijimi 5 років тому +3

      @@andersonandrighi4539 No, it's a hair over two days for me. I'm just trying to see what people see as a reasonable amount of time to trade for a graphics card, because that's more of a universal measure of value, in my view anyways.

    • @caseygeertsen8411
      @caseygeertsen8411 5 років тому +4

      Yeah I’m glad I worked hard enough in life to not worry about prices. But it is funny reading people complain about something an say it’s bad just because they can’t afford it.... shit work harder then

    • @dirtkiller23
      @dirtkiller23 5 років тому +1

      radeon 7 for $699.

  • @BenjerminGaye
    @BenjerminGaye 5 років тому +56

    The masses are supposed to pay 350 for a low end card?

    • @BenjerminGaye
      @BenjerminGaye 5 років тому +6

      @Subi_fan 2060 is tu106. Low end. Just like the 1060 was gp106.
      The 104 is midrange(1080, 2080) and the 102 is high end (1080ti and above 2080ti and above)

    • @holdingholder
      @holdingholder 5 років тому +16

      Low end? This card beats AMD's best cards that they still charge over$500 for.

    • @BenjerminGaye
      @BenjerminGaye 5 років тому +10

      @@holdingholder why are you bringing up AMD? We're looking specifically at nvidia's product stack codenames.
      2080ti, Titan Turing= *tu102* =high end
      2080= *tu104* = mid range
      2070, 2060= *tu106* =low end
      Just like pascal.
      1080ti,Titan Pascal, TitanXp= *gp102* =high end
      1070, 1080= *gp104* =mid range
      1060= *gp106* = low end.

    • @MrEvol94
      @MrEvol94 5 років тому +3

      60-70s is mid end tho. Targeting high settings 1080p-1440p 60+fps. 50s is low end ~low medium 1080p ~60fps.

    • @BenjerminGaye
      @BenjerminGaye 5 років тому +5

      @Subi_fan nope. I'm looking at it from a product stack prospective. The 2060 is the low end of Turing.
      The 1080ti is the high end of pascal.
      Enthusias and entry level is made up bullshit by nvidia to further segment the product stack, and hide the fact that that they began selling mid range cards at high end prices. And now they're selling low end cards at mid range prices.

  • @ionescugeorge5606
    @ionescugeorge5606 5 років тому

    Can't wait to see how much of a difference DLSS makes on RTX 2060, as it's just been enabled by Nvidia for BF5, with the driver launched today. They also added Gsync support on all Freesync displays.

  • @pitongus
    @pitongus 5 років тому

    I've been out of the specs space for a while. How much of an upgrade would this be over an overclocked 980ti?

  • @SelfIndulgentGamer
    @SelfIndulgentGamer 5 років тому +19

    But will it blend?....no wait that's wrong :)

  • @crescentmoon256
    @crescentmoon256 5 років тому +18

    4:51 dat aim though

    • @Exials
      @Exials 5 років тому

      they use controllers when they game... i dunno why

    • @Vsevolod3788
      @Vsevolod3788 5 років тому +1

      @@Exials Controller is not an excuse either. They have DECADES of console experience behind them includes fps games that were wide spreaded on consoles since x360, and im sure they use x360/one controller which is very suitable for FPS. You gotta be a complete nood and never have any experience with controllers to aim like that.

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 5 років тому +2

      they too busy counting the frames all that time, lol at playing games for fun

    • @pegasusdrive12
      @pegasusdrive12 5 років тому +3

      Still better than 90% Fortnite players.

  • @bodybag22
    @bodybag22 5 років тому

    15:18 That's an error right?
    The 1070 TI is lagging well behind the 1070 in that sequence.

  • @jinx20001
    @jinx20001 5 років тому

    I don't know if its actually classified as dead now but im curious to see how the RTX cards handle VR compared with the pascal cards, VR seems to slip by most reviewers these days and with many upcoming VR headsets actually in the works it would be great to see a few words said on the subject, is there a hidden bit of value in these RTX cards nobody is talking about?

  • @MrPhyxsyus
    @MrPhyxsyus 5 років тому +52

    2000 series is a trap, overpriced. It's just beta hardware. Wait for Navi or the 3000 series

    • @rocketman4315
      @rocketman4315 5 років тому

      Wat's Navi?

    • @MrPhyxsyus
      @MrPhyxsyus 5 років тому +7

      @@rocketman4315 the newest amd architecture, it's supposed to be on 7nm

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 5 років тому +4

      This 2060 is incredibly cheap for such a powerful card if the price is real

    • @VerticalStrafes
      @VerticalStrafes 5 років тому

      Kaminoken Phyx when is it coming because I've been waiting for ever

    • @MrPhyxsyus
      @MrPhyxsyus 5 років тому

      @@VerticalStrafes prob the end of q2, start of q3

  • @davideverett2
    @davideverett2 5 років тому +8

    Nvidia's already stopped the driver fine tuning for maximising last gen product performance as can be seen from 11:18 They know they can't get away with blatantly nerfing performance anymore so they change tactics. Both give the same result though.

  • @Ztreak
    @Ztreak 5 років тому +1

    Good documented and factual video as always guys. 2060 seems like an awesome card.

  • @theoriginalrandomman
    @theoriginalrandomman 5 років тому +1

    should've done a raytracing comparison using quake 2 as a benchmark

  • @systemx6603
    @systemx6603 5 років тому +35

    Ah yes, the full fat review from my boi Wichard.

  • @pegasusdrive12
    @pegasusdrive12 5 років тому +12

    Wolfenstein's optimization on all platforms is amazing. If only it's publisher used that engine rather than creation engine.

    • @DJ_Dopamine
      @DJ_Dopamine 5 років тому +4

      The PC performance is also thanks to Vulkan and it supports VRS and RPM. Very impressive effort from a PC development point of view. Ubisoft take note!

    • @pegasusdrive12
      @pegasusdrive12 5 років тому +4

      @@DJ_Dopamine those games while not well optimized, are seriously bogged down by denuvo.

  • @photonboy999
    @photonboy999 5 років тому +1

    Hey guys,
    Ray-Tracing makes sense in games where you can also achieve a good FPS and high resolution. Just because BFV struggles in early days doesn't mean there won't be games where it makes sense. For example, consider a DUNGEON environment with crystals, reflections, lights and smoke etc where you can do things with LIGHT that you can't manage with the normal rasterization hacks... in a 2.5D game like Diablo 3 for example how high is the FPS vs what you really need for smooth game play on a medium tier graphics card? You can easily do 2560x1440 or even 4K likely with RTRT while maintaining at least 60FPS.... or consider less demanding 3D games where you maybe focus on just reflections or whatever... there's a lot of POTENTIAL here and in the future we'll have more optimization to this process as well as more powerful cards.. got to start somewhere (not that I want to be an early adopter).

  • @bobhumplick4213
    @bobhumplick4213 5 років тому

    looks like the better compression and higher mem speeds are working in the 2060's favor on newer games where larger textures and more compute work are being done

  • @millrrs
    @millrrs 5 років тому +46

    LOL at the price...

    • @leruty
      @leruty 4 роки тому +1

      What do you mean?

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 роки тому

      @@leruty some people paid less than 200 buck for GPU...

  • @PookaBot
    @PookaBot 5 років тому +13

    No mention of the meager 6GB of memory?

    • @slojcabronas858
      @slojcabronas858 5 років тому

      1. As you see there is not much difference
      2. RTX cards use nearly 2x faster memory (GDDR6)

  • @mahatmagandhiful
    @mahatmagandhiful 5 років тому

    I for one would love to see the Digital Foundry guys match wits with the Gamers Nexus guys, just have a big round-table and talk technology.

  • @j0k3r_82
    @j0k3r_82 5 років тому

    What about comparison to 1080Ti with DLSS on? would be great to see that.

  • @patrikmiskovic791
    @patrikmiskovic791 5 років тому +11

    Fast as 1070ti for 400euros . Cant wait to see navi .u can defend nvidia and 2060 but this card is joke

  • @Jack_Sparrow131
    @Jack_Sparrow131 5 років тому +7

    Nvidia CEO: What we should do? our stock market gone down, we sold 35% less than we expected, what we should do?
    Nvidia Employer: we can reduce the prices by 30% to 50% to match our Pascal prices (10 Series)
    Nvidia CEO: No!! we're not reducing prices, we should release RTX 2060 for 40% more price + 50% more performance
    Nvidia Employer: but Boss.. no one gonna buy RTX 2070/80/80ti if we do this!!
    Nvidia CEO: You can't criticize my Intelligence!! you're fired slaaave!!
    Nvidia Emplyer: yeah whatever man, Rumors says that they will will fire you after few months anyway

  • @AndreThompson925
    @AndreThompson925 5 років тому

    I I have a 1070 founders edition should I just hold off for a better card? Is this even a step up besides the ability to use RT?

  • @DarrenlinesUk
    @DarrenlinesUk 5 років тому

    Do you think the extra money for the 2070 is worth it for the extra 2GB of memory (as well as the extra cores etc)? Looking at the MSI Gaming Z RTX 2060 and 2070.

  • @oasistimes
    @oasistimes 5 років тому +12

    No Nvidia I won't be paying 350 for your FOURTH tier card which should actually be 199.

    • @oasistimes
      @oasistimes 5 років тому

      Well there's a Titan too so it's actually a fifth tier card!

  • @Razziel808s
    @Razziel808s 5 років тому +13

    "...For The Masses?"
    HAHAHA

  • @SoundSelector
    @SoundSelector 5 років тому

    VFM for me always around 150 to 250
    what is your VFM and what cards from this price range you have in your collection

  • @arturb5152
    @arturb5152 5 років тому

    A have quick question about your desk and keyboard Gaming the red one ?

  • @TR1PLE_6
    @TR1PLE_6 5 років тому +15

    £330, well priced?
    Errr.... no!

  • @gamingchannel-gh2wh
    @gamingchannel-gh2wh 5 років тому +3

    Nvidia ray tracing has potential but it needs to be perfected. You can tell it was rushed maybe because of amd's new line up coming..

  • @fuckjoebiden
    @fuckjoebiden 3 роки тому

    dynamic resolution + dlss would be amazing for 60fps lock without losing quality

  • @Space-O-2001
    @Space-O-2001 5 років тому

    QUESTION: If the RTX cards are better at SLI even if you can't expect double the performance for the money versus the RTX 2080 TI is a SLI option viable?

  • @topvines7949
    @topvines7949 5 років тому +4

    Just imagine how much 3060 will cost lol
    I thought consoles will die but looks like consoles are the future
    Pc hardware will be just too expensive for consumers anymore

  • @RDilux
    @RDilux 5 років тому +6

    little bit schoked that the peformance of this card is so high....

    • @Pixrl3491
      @Pixrl3491 5 років тому +1

      Same shock was when 1070 outperformed titan maxwell..

    • @MrChomiq
      @MrChomiq 5 років тому +3

      Don't worry, it still chokes in 4K with highest texture size.

  • @samarthkapil6579
    @samarthkapil6579 5 років тому +2

    Do you guys read comments? If you do, thank you for your work :D

    • @Sheepy007
      @Sheepy007 5 років тому +2

      I dont think they do. Otherwise they would all need chemotherapy by now.

    • @samarthkapil6579
      @samarthkapil6579 5 років тому

      @@Sheepy007 true that lmao. CONSOLE WARS !

    • @DJ_Dopamine
      @DJ_Dopamine 5 років тому

      No we don't bother. Sorry 🤗

    • @samarthkapil6579
      @samarthkapil6579 5 років тому

      @@DJ_Dopamine Bullocks !

  • @Deffine
    @Deffine 5 років тому

    Gonna wait for the RTX 3000-series, since this has no HDMI 2.1 support for VRR. I need it for my new 2019 OLED HDMI 2.1 TV, so i can play games with 120hz and VRR (variable refresh rate, same as gsync) with low input lag!

  • @HKarlsson
    @HKarlsson 5 років тому +10

    And people were throwing a fit over the rumored PS5 ray tracing feature.

    • @elliottblair31
      @elliottblair31 5 років тому +3

      I haven't seen this rumour. I must Google this lol.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 5 років тому +24

      Every gpu can ray trace. Nvidia is masters of deception. Yes the RTX cards have special hardware that make raytracing faster, but how has movies and so on Ray traced in the past? Any gpu can do it, and I'm sure AMD Navi, which ps5 will use, will probably have some specialized hardware for it

    • @godhand6510
      @godhand6510 5 років тому +4

      @@elliottblair31 its not a rumor the people that make GT Sport had a conference showing off real time raytracing on GT Sport

    • @DenkyManner
      @DenkyManner 5 років тому +2

      @@wile123456 you say it's deception and then immediately admit there's special hardware on the card. That is the sole reason it's feasible. Sure any card can perform the ray tracing maths, but you'd be left with a terribly out of date looking game. What's the point of a PS2 quality game in 2019 just because it has nice reflections? People were sceptical of the ps5 rumours because it was assumed ray tracing was still years away, if not decades. But now it's here and it's only these new Nvidia cards that made that a reality.

    • @patrikmiskovic791
      @patrikmiskovic791 5 років тому

      Noobs

  • @DenkyManner
    @DenkyManner 5 років тому +53

    I have to go to Google to find out how much the card is in £ because the English man, sitting in England who works for a UK based website that says it's a European website gave the price in dollars.

    • @kyrenity
      @kyrenity 5 років тому +1

      £329

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 5 років тому +3

      oh booohooo
      i have to do that to every single video ever.

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 5 років тому +2

      majority of their viewers are American probably

    • @thebadger4955
      @thebadger4955 5 років тому

      @J Dxvx you can apply that to every year for the past 10 years. *facepalm*

    • @eyb0ss
      @eyb0ss 5 років тому

      You forget that this price was revealed at a US-based conference, CES takes place in Las Vegas.

  • @jiobranjo6636
    @jiobranjo6636 5 років тому +2

    What about the performance of high settings instead of ultra and medium ray tracing at 1080p and 1440p and dlss when it gets patched pls test that or someone tell me the performance pls.

  • @GamekNightPlays
    @GamekNightPlays 5 років тому

    Thanks - have a sub! :D

  • @misterc9641
    @misterc9641 5 років тому +4

    So a 1070ti for more? Wow! Going amd this year

  • @DriveCancelDC
    @DriveCancelDC 5 років тому +85

    Yes, ray tracing for the masses! *at 12 fps

    • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
      @JamesSmith-sw3nk 5 років тому +4

      C'mon now, the rtx 2060 is perfect for ray tracing ..at 720p. Sad.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 5 років тому +21

      Luke Should’ve watched the video before commenting.

    • @sovietrussia3632
      @sovietrussia3632 5 років тому +5

      @@JamesSmith-sw3nk I have a Ryzen 7 1700 16gb ddr4 ram and rx580 and I play at 720p cuz I don't have a 1080p monitor.

    • @josh223
      @josh223 5 років тому +5

      @@sovietrussia3632 oof

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 5 років тому +2

      but that reflection that you wouldnt know is ray traced unless someone said it, is totally worth that 12fps though

  • @Ornal64
    @Ornal64 5 років тому

    Performance looks good but this is best case scenario. I'm interested how this will look with real life system - Ryzen 5 2600 paired with RTX 2060. DLLS is still future song so I will wait for AMD offer and than decide should I upgrade for 2k/60 ultra or stay with my RX570 4GB for 1080p high.

  • @TranceCore3
    @TranceCore3 5 років тому

    finally someone who reads and average and explains that averages aren't end all be all. Thank you so much.
    People on the internet can't seem to grasp that concept.

  • @Nailsinmytummy
    @Nailsinmytummy 5 років тому +3

    I highly doubt bannerlord will use either DXR, DLSS or VRS. Pass.

    • @VargVikernes1488
      @VargVikernes1488 5 років тому +3

      Of course it won't use these, because it will never come out.

  • @DMFPERFORMANCE
    @DMFPERFORMANCE 5 років тому +11

    Content sponsored by Nvidia. 😁

    • @combatantezoteric2965
      @combatantezoteric2965 5 років тому

      @phillip martin The Rx 3080 will have Rtx 2080 performance for 250$. So the 2060 is overpriced.

    • @DMFPERFORMANCE
      @DMFPERFORMANCE 5 років тому +2

      @phillip martin What a mindless spanner I run a 1080ti. I would prefer full disclosure from reviewers on freebees or payments to clarify any possibility there is bias. Tit.

    • @combatantezoteric2965
      @combatantezoteric2965 5 років тому

      @phillip martin If amd doesn't want to be forced to leave the gpu market by the next year, then there is no reason not to bring a Vega 64 like gpu for the midrange price. Why shouldn't they do exactly what they 2 years ago with the Rx 480 and 470?

    • @DMFPERFORMANCE
      @DMFPERFORMANCE 5 років тому

      @phillip martin You're still missing the point. Reviewers should always disclosure an interest just like in funded research or orher investigations. This has precisely zero to do with this manufacturer (Nvidia) or any others that are so called competitors. Its good journalistic practice.

    • @DMFPERFORMANCE
      @DMFPERFORMANCE 5 років тому

      @phillip martin Transparency, honesty and ethics. A simple disclosure is all that is needed to show that the subject item was provided for free and the reviewer has gained something.

  • @Gigator
    @Gigator 5 років тому

    I'm not a hardcore follower of your video content. I like a lot of the stuff you have on offer, but since I don't own any modern consoles and those that I have (Xbox360, Vita, 3DS) hardly ever get used, so the whole "console x vs x+ vs y" is of no use to me. But here, I find the constant background music very distracting and annoying. You don't reallly need this for anything in my opinion. :) Otherwise, fantastic video and great content!

  • @EchoDissolve
    @EchoDissolve 5 років тому +1

    14:47 Have you only ever seen “outlier” written down?

  • @16valveBravoSpoonz
    @16valveBravoSpoonz 5 років тому +8

    woow i never expected this much hatred towards this card. Its 1070ti/1080 performance, if pricing is correct in the UK at £329-£350 thats great value, since 1080 cards are slowly dwindling, used 1080's go for around £300-£350 anyway. 1080ti's have gone up in value for some reason, since you may aswell buy a NEW 2080 with the new features.
    Its great that the 2060 falls around 1070ti/1080 performance.

    • @NoBodysGamer
      @NoBodysGamer 5 років тому +1

      what do you want? dumb Peasants want everything for free.
      I also sure that most of the replays here are from teenagers, so "mommy" wont be buying them a new GPU

  • @AnImperfectSoul
    @AnImperfectSoul 5 років тому +3

    Linus made a perfect video on this. There's no point in this card. 6gb max, 2 versions gddr5x and gddr6 so if you happen to get a 5x you're screwed. This is not a serious 4k card and even then using rtx at 4k which its locked to, has terrible performance. Pointless card

  • @NiKevinSa
    @NiKevinSa 5 років тому

    As usual, stellar review DF !, when reviewing GPU products you were the best out there. You got some perspective and comparison that no other tech reviewer out there sees. I’ll always be a fan. Wichard you are the best ! ❤️

  • @locust76
    @locust76 5 років тому

    I think the performance differences between old and new versions of games based on the same tech could be a driver optimization issue. The newer games run better on RTX Hardware because Nvidia has done driver optimizations for the newer titles first. Makes sense to me.

  • @ut2k4wikichici
    @ut2k4wikichici 5 років тому +4

    So I could buy a 56 or 1080 for the same price or cheaper that's faster has more vram and better thermals
    Or this....

    • @12coco100
      @12coco100 5 років тому +2

      did you not watch the video even 64 couldnt out perform 2060 in 10 of 11 games.

    • @jdog8701
      @jdog8701 5 років тому +1

      @@12coco100 just so many trolls cus its "cool" to hate on this 20 series line

    • @12coco100
      @12coco100 5 років тому

      @@jdog8701 Ik if you have a 900 series these are worth imo.

  • @JamesBond007Nejc
    @JamesBond007Nejc 5 років тому +7

    "I demand 60 minimal" What bout console games then LEL

    • @AntonioCunningham
      @AntonioCunningham 5 років тому +2

      This is why I still game on consoles. I rather developers focus on fun not FPS.

    • @KraszuPolis
      @KraszuPolis 5 років тому +7

      @@AntonioCunningham This isn't how game development works, pc has more fps because it has more processing power it doesn't take any game developers focus. You run the same program on faster hardware, and it runs faster, that is all.

    • @DJ_Dopamine
      @DJ_Dopamine 5 років тому

      For console he demands 30 fps minimum. Weaker hardware ☺

    • @AntonioCunningham
      @AntonioCunningham 5 років тому

      @@KraszuPolis Then why are so many gamers advocating the next gen have a minimum of 60fps? That would weed out games I play effectively killing my hobby for a numbers game.
      We've seen games lose a lot of content for "graphics" (Monster Hunter comes to mind)

    • @KraszuPolis
      @KraszuPolis 5 років тому

      @@AntonioCunningham Because people want to play smoother running games, and wanting 60fps means worse gfx, that extra frames require more power to render so there is less power for better gfx.

  • @radeonxtx
    @radeonxtx 5 років тому

    I currently have a 980ti for 1440p gaming, is this the card i should be looking at or something a little higher?

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight 5 років тому

      It depends.
      If you want Ray Tracing - 2070 is good enough.
      If you don't care about RT - 1080 or 1080Ti.

  • @Emoziga
    @Emoziga 5 років тому

    And if I prefer perf to ray tracing and this option is disabled 99,5% of the time, does that mean that a good chunk of the silicon is just idling about? And I payed for this piece of silicon which is consists a good part of an end product.