Great welding job! What I do myself with gaps, particularly when I'm stick welding, is to wedge something like a nail on it's side in the gap and then weld across it. I also use lengths of welding rod with the powder broken off, jammed in the gap. If the weld needs to look good on the inside face, I weld and grind it there as well. It's strong and looks good enough for farm machinery.
Nice job filling those gaps. 35+ years ago, I filled those. Stick welder and using a rod in one hand. Use the extra rod like you would use a braising rod. That was back when we were building Dumpsters in Shop class.
I've been meaning to try that. I was just closing up some gaps with 6011 on some rusty stuff, quite a pain, but worked well enough. Fortunately its not structural.
Excellent video Allen, I always wonder what happen when things don't turn out the way they should. Check to see it it's square, what do you do when it's not? Check to see if it fits up properly, what do you do when it does not? Check to see if it's level, what do you do when it's not? Check to see if your sides are parallel, well, what do you do when they're not?
Great video, really helps me out. Been welding 1/8 tubing building frames. My band saw will finish a cut at a angle and leaves me a gap. So I will try this technique and turn the heat down and speed and run passes. Thanks
Now that is a beautiful weld. I had trouble the other day closing a much smaller gap - 1/8 or so. My wire was shooting through. Next time Ill try to use these techniques.
@10:00 .. Was wondering something similar. Gaps that I can't quite solve in 16 Guage . either no penetration or blowing through. Was thinking of laying a length of 3/32" filler rod in the gap and seeing what happens.
With something that thin, you'll probably have to use a filler, keep the amps down around 17- 17.5, or try "squirting it in" one tack at a time as fast as you can move
... Thanks Allen... i'm 72 & learning a new trade.. made my 1st chicken-shit yesterday ;).. but' i'll be back in my shop in a few hours, trying that 'circle' motion. ( i'm making a step for my trailer hitch, so it will my ass that falls if i do a bad job...lol ) Keep up the good work !!
Great video covering one of the great mysteries of MIG :-) great tips.. look forward to trying out.. I find wire speed hard to work with on my welder it doesn't seem to crackle very well with the lower wire speeds just spits.. maybe I'm trying too low.. thanks again
From one allen to another i enjoyed ur tips but wondered why you didnt mention using a backing chunk of brass or copper such as maybe a sheet jammed into back of weld.i know it would be hard given ur projects shape but still doable.iam just getting into this welding thing so ur advice is handy!!snookie pa.
I like to use a piece of copper or aluminum to help prevent burning a hole through thin material or to bridge big gaps. I'm now playing with an everlast pulse mig welder. I hope the pulse will allow me to do away with the heatsinks.
As per Jody you can calibrate your wire speed by using a stop watch and running the gun for six seconds. Multiply times ten and you have your inches per minute. Do it every two or four numbers and you should see if it is an even incremental dial if so you then can interpolate and know what ipm each number is. For the volts I would put a multimeter between the ground and the stinger (use the welders ground so you aren't measuring ground resistance through the workpiece. Just bought one of those Pro Weldpak 180's. Hope they are as good of quality as my Weldpak 100 I bought almost thirty years ago and is still going strong. Being 120v it only pumps 90 amps so it was more than time for another companion. Take care. Doug
Great looking fire pit! I think the reason FOR your gaps was in assembly. Next one you build try leaving that base plate in one spot. I'm sure your measurements were w/in 1/8" anyways, and I can see how straight those cuts are. If you need a jig you might be able to use a finished one flipped upside down. I am gonna have to get some plate and try this one myself.
Another tip is put a piece of copper behind the gap and lay the weld on top of it. The weld won't stick to the copper and the copper will stop you blowing through.
Great tip. I've just started mig welding with my everlast welder. I want to weld thin material and there will be gaps and I understand that this is probably one of the most challenging scenarios.
I've got the smaller Lincoln... Promig 140 I believe. It's 120 volt only for incoming power. I catch hell with long welds because my breaker will trip after a while. Just switched to .030 from .035 and that made a big difference in several ways but I still can't just go to town. Any tips other than getting a 240v machine?
I’m totally new to welding, so you might think I’m asking a silly question. As the gap is now mainly weld material and not the parent metal how well will it stand up to the heat of the fire once in use?
Awesome video as always Allen. Question I’m building floating fire pits like water fire. It’s a dish with expanded metal and 3 arms with floats they look rubber what would you suggest to use?
Sure, because since the electrode is of larger diameter it deposits more material quicker but stick welding has slag to deal which can cause slag pockets and are hard to get out sometimes. Also it introduces more heat into part.
For 3/16(like in the video) to -1/4 steel .030 is good, anything thinner something around .024 wire. For your welder, get lots of .030 and .024 because you don’t have the power to do much over 1/4 steel and make good use of bigger .035-.045. For gas the cheapest and most convenient for your welder is 75% argon to 25% C02. Both gases in one bottle.
Really like your videos hand keep'em coming I was ragging on you my brother the first video I watched just being a ass I guess because we are a lot alike in the art of steel work I'm about to start the the biggest smoker/pit/griddle/boiler I've ever done just was looking around and found you I'm going to keep watching so you keep welding hand I love stepping the hard wire it makes em stop and look when it's done just right nice job Allen very nice talk at you later my brother
Thanks for the great welding tip!
learned alot ; very well done PJP
Great welding job!
What I do myself with gaps, particularly when I'm stick welding, is to wedge something like a nail on it's side in the gap and then weld across it. I also use lengths of welding rod with the powder broken off, jammed in the gap. If the weld needs to look good on the inside face, I weld and grind it there as well. It's strong and looks good enough for farm machinery.
i thoroughly enjoyed this video. i love it when someone can make a living from home!
Helped me a shit ton, great explanation! Thank you!!
I really appreciate your tips. I 've had few problems with welding gaps with my everlast mig welder.
You make this welding easy. My weldings are not so Good. Cool demo. Thanks mate !!!
Nice job filling those gaps. 35+ years ago, I filled those. Stick welder and using a rod in one hand. Use the extra rod like you would use a braising rod. That was back when we were building Dumpsters in Shop class.
I've been meaning to try that. I was just closing up some gaps with 6011 on some rusty stuff, quite a pain, but worked well enough. Fortunately its not structural.
we call that tooth picking on the oil rigs
@@richardchase4019 in the building trades we call it Texas Tigging!!!
geez ended up looking darn good ! I learned something. Thanks for going over the technique afterwards.
Nice work. A good craftsman knows how to fix it when things don't go perfectly. You have skills, brother. Awesome to watch.
Thank you for the tips I just started getting my into welding
I've done it that way before.
I've also chipped the flux of a welding rod and clean it up good and use it to fill your gap. Good video
Also done the same. Works just fine.
Great Video!!! I enjoy and learn from the project you do each week.
you're showing some good welding skills! good vid!
Excellent work, you have a pulse for welding my friend. Thank you for the tips.
i truly like your tips brother
Excellent video Allen, I always wonder what happen when things don't turn out the way they should.
Check to see it it's square, what do you do when it's not? Check to see if it fits up properly, what do you do when it does not? Check to see if it's level, what do you do when it's not? Check to see if your sides are parallel, well, what do you do when they're not?
Love the channel!!! Thanks for sharing Allen!
As always Allen, great video,
Voltage on the Lincoln 180HD is, A-19.29 B-20.72 C-22.72 D-25.19 E-32.83
outwhitu08 By chance would you know the voltage numbers for the Lincoln 140?
Great tips Allen. Great looking welds...
Great video, really helps me out. Been welding 1/8 tubing building frames. My band saw will finish a cut at a angle and leaves me a gap. So I will try this technique and turn the heat down and speed and run passes. Thanks
Now that is a beautiful weld. I had trouble the other day closing a much smaller gap - 1/8 or so. My wire was shooting through. Next time Ill try to use these techniques.
Thanks for the video and the knowledge. Well done. Us beginners sure do appreciate it.
Great welding skill!
Thank you for sharing. 👍🙂
Thanks!
@10:00 .. Was wondering something similar. Gaps that I can't quite solve in 16 Guage . either no penetration or blowing through. Was thinking of laying a length of 3/32" filler rod in the gap and seeing what happens.
With something that thin, you'll probably have to use a filler, keep the amps down around 17- 17.5, or try "squirting it in" one tack at a time as fast as you can move
I was wondering your patterns thanks great video!
Great tips thanks for helping us newer welders
Great tips on the abc Lincoln welder. Also how control distortion. As long as you have your bite it is a stronger weld. Amen to you.
Subscribed. Great explanation of procedure. Excellent weld signature.
many thanks for teaching me something new and very useful.
As i've said before one of the best master welders on tube. natural. TU
You put my mind at ease have screwed up 45 degree angle cuts.
... Thanks Allen... i'm 72 & learning a new trade.. made my 1st chicken-shit yesterday ;).. but' i'll be back in my shop in a few hours, trying that 'circle' motion. ( i'm making a step for my trailer hitch, so it will my ass that falls if i do a bad job...lol ) Keep up the good work !!
Great video covering one of the great mysteries of MIG :-) great tips.. look forward to trying out.. I find wire speed hard to work with on my welder it doesn't seem to crackle very well with the lower wire speeds just spits.. maybe I'm trying too low.. thanks again
Thanks Allen. I hope you enjoyed the eclipse.
You're welds are beautiful Allen
Great tips matey, im sure they will help someone out. All the best.
Appreciate the video. Thanks!
Your welding skills shows us that we all do not need the 2000 dollar and up machine to produce great projects Thank You
From one allen to another i enjoyed ur tips but wondered why you didnt mention using a backing chunk of brass or copper such as maybe a sheet jammed into back of weld.i know it would be hard given ur projects shape but still doable.iam just getting into this welding thing so ur advice is handy!!snookie pa.
I'd be happy if my boss supplied me with steel half as clean as this!
Sheryl Beasley me too..lol..99 percent of this is new steel, just about all I use anymore except for tanks and barrels
Good tips on welding gaps.. thank you for sharing
Ve great if you did a video on how to figure out the angles & how wide they should be at the top & bottom. Something i struggle with.
Great video like always Alan
I like to use a piece of copper or aluminum to help prevent burning a hole through thin material or to bridge big gaps. I'm now playing with an everlast pulse mig welder. I hope the pulse will allow me to do away with the heatsinks.
hey thankyou for the pointers I really appreciate it I am very new any tips or tricks or anything i shouldnt start doing build a good habbit?
As per Jody you can calibrate your wire speed by using a stop watch and running the gun for six seconds. Multiply times ten and you have your inches per minute. Do it every two or four numbers and you should see if it is an even incremental dial if so you then can interpolate and know what ipm each number is. For the volts I would put a multimeter between the ground and the stinger (use the welders ground so you aren't measuring ground resistance through the workpiece. Just bought one of those Pro Weldpak 180's. Hope they are as good of quality as my Weldpak 100 I bought almost thirty years ago and is still going strong. Being 120v it only pumps 90 amps so it was more than time for another companion. Take care. Doug
Great looking fire pit! I think the reason FOR your gaps was in assembly. Next one you build try leaving that base plate in one spot. I'm sure your measurements were w/in 1/8" anyways, and I can see how straight those cuts are. If you need a jig you might be able to use a finished one flipped upside down. I am gonna have to get some plate and try this one myself.
Thanks for the tips.
Another tip is put a piece of copper behind the gap and lay the weld on top of it. The weld won't stick to the copper and the copper will stop you blowing through.
Seriously! 2" flatbar, 1/4" thick, 12" long. Jam it in behind it and go.
Great tip. I've just started mig welding with my everlast welder. I want to weld thin material and there will be gaps and I understand that this is probably one of the most challenging scenarios.
Aluminum works too, just needs to be a little thick to take the heat.
David Boyce yea that will work, brass will work too
Allen's welding/woodworking I agree with you, brass and ceramic are my first choices
Those welds look good. I guess I can’t blame my machine anymore
Awesome video and great welds, question I have a flux welder would that work as well for this type of method? Thanks
How are you welding outside with mig
Good job Allen.
Nice welds and great tips!
Nice job! Thanks for sharing with us.
Great video. Do you sell plans for fire pit or only complete pits
Great info. Nice work! Thanks.
Really nice welds. Are you using inershield wire or a gas
Great tips, going to try a similar technique with my tig...
I've got the smaller Lincoln... Promig 140 I believe. It's 120 volt only for incoming power. I catch hell with long welds because my breaker will trip after a while. Just switched to .030 from .035 and that made a big difference in several ways but I still can't just go to town. Any tips other than getting a 240v machine?
I’m totally new to welding, so you might think I’m asking a silly question. As the gap is now mainly weld material and not the parent metal how well will it stand up to the heat of the fire once in use?
It will hold fine, a lot of welding applications will fit up with a gap between materials in order to have 100% weld
Allen's welding/woodworking Thank you for the quick reply, that deserves a subscribe.
Great video 👍👍
As always , nice job sir, love your work!!🙂👍
Awesome video as always Allen. Question I’m building floating fire pits like water fire. It’s a dish with expanded metal and 3 arms with floats they look rubber what would you suggest to use?
Thank you for your great tips bud.
Looks great
Very informational. Thank you!
you weld like a boss! looks easy but I bet it's not. thanks.
Looks good!
Nice work. But wouldnt it be both easier and cheaper to just stickweld those big gaps?
Nice weld!!!
Thanks!
I like using a piece of lead as a back plate to help weld gaps.. works great on carbon steel.
Thanks for the video. Helped me al lot.
Love these videos!!
I always hesitate to weld slower because I always think I'll start undercutting and burn holes through
Great videos, You are an artist. Would a stick welder work better for those gaps?
Sure, because since the electrode is of larger diameter it deposits more material quicker but stick welding has slag to deal which can cause slag pockets and are hard to get out sometimes. Also it introduces more heat into part.
Morning Allen
Get tip thanks
Your U tube is really helpful
How is the cooking coming??
Talk soon
Edward
What size wire you running here? Gas is C25? I just bought a 180
For 3/16(like in the video) to -1/4 steel .030 is good, anything thinner something around .024 wire. For your welder, get lots of .030 and .024 because you don’t have the power to do much over 1/4 steel and make good use of bigger .035-.045.
For gas the cheapest and most convenient for your welder is 75% argon to 25% C02. Both gases in one bottle.
Do you use dual shielded at all, or just solid with shield gas? Just curious as you do a lot of welding outside.
Tack welding and set up must have been a nightmare.
hey allen, its kerry in abilene tx. that looks bout the size pit i want to build my mom.... what are you measurements on the trapezoid pieces ?
Brilliant vid!!
Another tip is to turn it vertical and do a faling root weld and then do the filletweld.
What gauge extension cord do you use If any
Is that with or without gas
With gas, Flux would make it have Flux on the weld after, it wouldn't be that clean
What wire and what settings are you using?
very nice work!
Good old pipe whip. Nice
nice work!
Really like your videos hand keep'em coming
I was ragging on you my brother the first video I watched just being a ass I guess because we are a lot alike in the art of steel work I'm about to start the the biggest smoker/pit/griddle/boiler I've ever done just was looking around and found you I'm going to keep watching so you keep welding hand I love stepping the hard wire it makes em stop and look when it's done just right nice job Allen very nice talk at you later my brother
Thank you for the video sir
what's the use of demonstating how to weld when you speed up the video?
iv got to agree with this comment , although i got a lot from the information.
You should try to do more tutorial/problem solving videos
You should be able to use a voltage meter to see what the voltage is at different settings
How much u sale ur fire pits for
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There is a chart on the inside of dooor that is real close to the settings u need
nice job bud .you welded that the same i would with the c-- u called it a u but its not a u weave its a c motion
Jamie Buckley why don't you make your own videos
Can I assume you are qualified for MIL SPEC welding?
Why are u welding out side with smaw