Why Does Everyone Want To Be A Fascist? Guattari's Micropolitics of Desire
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
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In this episode, we explore Félix Guattari’s essay "Everybody Wants to Be a Fascist", dissecting its critique of micro-fascisms in everyday life. The discussion examines how desire, power, and subjectivity become entangled in oppressive structures beyond traditional authoritarianism. Drawing from Guattari’s solo work and his collaboration with Gilles Deleuze, we analyze how resistance must operate at both individual and collective levels to escape fascistic formations in contemporary society.
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An excellent episode. The discussion around depression I found particularly interesting due to my own experience. I certainly had a microfascism of narcissistic despair, extreme depression burning the fires of angry bitterness and then burning bridges in moments of derangement. Destructive self-loathing is really bad news. Until you embrace the sadness and set it free (though it will always be there), it will tear you apart and everyone around you! I'll have to read Hillman.
i highly recommend the Hillman Uniform Edition 'On Melancholy and Depression'
@AcidHorizon Thank you
Hearing the point from Guattari, hearing it discussed here and hearing so many more people everywhere turning to followers of fascist demagogues - makes me more and more think that it is the state and bureaucratic forms of governance that form the fertile ground for fascism. Meaning, the liberal corporate state structures, staticized parliamentary politics and indeed also academic intellectualism. All of these systems function more and more self-referential and alienating as time goes on. Eroding people's free flow of exchanging desires and turning it into staticized forms of stage-play, where there are active agents on the stage and then there is the entirely passive and pacified audience where one at a time one may get up on 'the stage' to have a chance to speak. Becoming-rich, becoming-phd, becoming-manager, becoming-politician whatever have you.
Where society becomes a stage, a few turn toward actor and many turn toward audience. An audience who's only acting power on the world is by serving as a mirror to gauge one's supposed reaction to the play on the stage. Where desire is off-loaded from those who one is actually close to and has agential, creative power with - towards the play up on the stage where one is passive recipient to.
Fascism then is just a more 'participatory' form of stage-play. Where one is called upon to act out the fantasies presented up on the stage and where the actors on the stage can toy with the emotions of the audience in the production of desire towards 'experience'.
The stage analogy goes hand in hand with the illusion that desire is a theater of representation. This is what I meant by discreet coordinates in the discussion: anything outside the grid or the prescribed parameters of performance is subject to discipline.
Your comment made me think of that Shakespeare quote "All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women merely players"
You people are incapable of doing an internal critique and don't have a freaking clue what the Fascist world view is even seeking.
@@majorian4897 why not elucidate us then?
@@majorian4897care to explain? We know your angry with us, but we cannot understand what you mean unless you explain it.
Okay you insulted us and said we dont know what fascism wants, so what does it want in this current moment?
Thanks, Adam, for your final point about resistance in Gaza. There were similar alliances during WWII. It's a good example for us.
One fun moment in the beginning was after Will opens the discussion about subjectivity presupposing itself and Guattari's critique of 'neomarxists' (hilarious), Adam quips "For those who haven't read every word ever written by Guattari and Deleuze, let's break that down...." made me chuckle. Y'all are all awesome. Thanks for what you do!
This channel is filled with great discussions. Thank you.
A great discussion.
From what i know Mussolini was a maximalist before becoming a fascist, but his father was an anarchist
32:15 to nitpick what Adam said here
For me it was the uniform.
Great episode
Happy Guattari!
There's no, like, me, man, and like, no you, man. That's fascism
Whoa
Maynard G Krebs was a comrade, Dobie.
What
The dude abides
More than ever time to talk about this
Nah. Real anti-fascism isnt idealist or psychological … isn’t scared to be ACTUAL Marxist materialists and employ rigid class analysis and be pro-working class. Read R. Palme Dutt “Fascism and Social Revolution, 3rd Ed.” That’ll set anyone straight on fascism. A real Marxist. Not idealists like these Pomo guys.
This channel is stalking me I literary have a test today in which I will be speaking about this stuff , crazy hamburger
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You should learn how to spell before your test.
Not that crazy. The algorithm knows you better than you do yourself
So appropriate. Only Felix negated fascism..it's caught somewhere between a machinic assemblage and micro fascism . Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain.
To all listeners: abandon (not this channel, but) all bourgeois philosophy and bourgeois liberation struggles.
Are men and women natural enemies? Really? What a great war to split the working class into two warring factions! Give it up! "Univosity has to remain unrepresentable." Maybe Marxism's aims are a little too humble at this level of analysis!
In a socialist (democratic) society, there we can pursue our liberation struggles. The struggle for human freedom is never-ending. Unite, comrades! It's the only way to overcome actual political fascism in practice. Unite!
I agree. I suggest reading Domenico Losurdo and Lukac. He gives perfect insights into corruption and impotence of theory. Especially Franch theory and Frankfurt School. None of them went into material dialectics of the history of class struggle or economy. And that's not a coincidence. That is something that is done by design. Gabriel Rockhill is doing a great job of shedding light on these important subjects. We need to stop overcomplicating the struggle with dubious theory's.
How to articulate revolutionary desire? Art. For one.?....
In a way negative solidarity may seem to appear as the dominating fascist affect of our age. The fascist desire does not emerges out of denial of injustice and unfairness. It is that, in a very petty bourgeois fashion, suffering becomes the ultimate individual property, nobody should claim it collectively, so everybody should suffer as I do if not more. In this way, fascist affect seem to combine a constant need for self-humiliation and disciplining with a level narcissist and sadistic jouissance.
I think this is a powerful insight. I was just having a chat with a friend about being down and out in these times, and we noticed how the subtext of our discussion was our respective viability as market objects. the positive dimension of the discussion was workshopping ideas to improve that facet of ourselves above addressing any root causes.
@@AcidHorizon This is a great example also because it directly tackles the fascist subject living within all of us. I think that when Toscano talks about fascist desire as a sort of drive for rebellion reterritorialized in the form of discipline he tackles the concrete fascist undercurrent of the capital order without the need to resort to misleading historical and aesthetic analogies. In any case, great work as usual!!
Compuder ?
*panic is creation
The problem for philosopher's, especially social varieties, is that they think the average individual is capable of internalizing the concepts of philosophy. My experience is that the average American has more in common with a cow than with philosophical concepts.
Purposeful ignorance is encouraged in modern social structures.
Every new human being is born into the human condition of desirings. Without sophisticated education and nurturing in the good, true, n beautiful, they soon will dom their lives. That's why these cycles always repeat.
Hate is a lack of imagination. Presuming that average people are all philosophical zombies is a bad approach
Everyone wants to be a fascist! But I mean, let me redefine fascism to mean something it totally never did to anyone who actually called themselves a fascist.
Do these guys even talk about palingenesis or the actual needs of the state to fulfill the goals of a revolution?
lose the sound effects the content is good enough.
Breaking topics like fascism down to micro, macro, this or that is SO helpful to fascists. Minimizing and categorizing the concept makes it mundane for the common liberal. It feels non threatening and tolerable; something they can deal with later. Always later. Good job guys. Way to help out the fash.
wrap it up, boys: french theory did it again. destroyed the revolution by positing a novel concept.
Is this just another anticommunist channel? Or is it in some way a special anticommunist channel?
I suggest to everyone to ask them selfs a questions of why none of the members of Franch theory and Frankfurt school never made a real material analysis of class struggle and material dialectics of economy? And i would humbly recommend to everybody to get them selfs familiar with the wrorks of Domenico Losurdo and G.Lukac. It's time to cut the bullshit and discard dubious bourgeois theory, which is corrupt and impotent to its core. Gabriel Rockhill is doing a great job of shedding light on this issue.
I know someone who applied to a program at school where Rockhill teaches. This person had once criticized Rockhill online; according to them, on the day that they received their letter of rejection from the program, Rockhill went back and liked the months old tweets as a way to compound an act of vengeance executed from position of institutional power. To hell with that guy.
@AcidHorizon I obviously didn't know that. And I don't agree with Rockhill and Losurdo on everything, especially their pov on Bosnian war and praise of Milosevic regime, which allegedly waged war against imperialism. I am war child from Bosnia and I know what happened in that war. But he ( Losurdo ) advocated and revived by Rockhill, raised very important question about impotence and corruption of French Theory and Frankfurt school. There are documents which state that each and everyone from French movement ( except Althusser ) were financed by Ford and Rockefeller foundation, which are CIA assets. Now you can think that this is a conspiracy theory, but this documents are online, available to public. I strongly recommend reading of Domenico Losurdo and G. Lukac. Even a book by F. Sounders " Cultural Cold War" provide some insight on the question of compliance of prominent figures on the left. I suggest for everyone to make their own research on a subject, which is definitely uncomfortable thing to do. All of these figures are our idols, and it's not easy to digest that they represent imperialism, not the left.
the CIA funded institutions that they believed would counteract the Stalinist tendency, but their is no evidence 1) that Deleuze and Guattari directly benefited from these programs at all, and we must consider that 2) they are themselves avowed Marxists that sit within the tradition of Marxism. Stalinism was reactionary, and the contestation between US Imperialism and the USSR of the time was between competing imperial powers, as both entities suppressed worker struggles. The work of D&G is *highly critical* of both power blocs. Rockhill's work is flawed, and it attempts to drive a wedge between a holistic intersectional approach to organizing and those with a narrower view of the effects of capitalism.
More like "everybody wants to call someone else a fascist". But why does no one want to define fascism. No fascism isn't when mean or bad or racist is there really any leftwing thinker or writer who has wrighting on fascism that is actually respected outside of their own spheres? Anyone
Hannah Arendt. She is a scholar who studied fascism directly during the early-mid post-war reconstruction period.
I have seen academics from most left and right ideologies value her as a good source.
Jason Stanley? Umberto Eco? Roger Griffin? There are laid out academic understandings of what gives fascist politics its character
I doubt this is a good faith comment...
Yes - government and big business acting as one imperial global entity is Fascism.
The US Empire and it's admirers are definitely fascists.
Not at all controversial outside of The Hard Right or an Imperial Centrist which I'm sure you are encamped to.
read Bordiga's Report on Fascism, if you want a marxist perspective.