I don’t think so , those hay wagons like that carry hundred of pounds . We use to have one . The square bales weighted 75 lbs a piece and we would have that thing loaded down . We would alter the way we stacked the rows so the actually tied them selfs off and would not fall off !!!!
It should good. I've done it. I rigged a boat winch in front to help with the heavy logs. Get front end of your log lifted to the back and winch it in worked pretty good!
Thanks Ted. I think it will work out pretty good with the grapple loading and unloading. If I didn't have the tractor the boat winch or electric winch would be a great option. 👍🪵🪓
I would use 4x6s or 4x8s for the uprights. I would lay 4x4s direct on the steel beams as your space for getting forks back in for unloading. The 4x4 would allow 3.5" of clearance on uneven ground. Remove the 2x10s allow each end to move over the terrain, that's how log trucks out west work anyway. . Cut smaller logs for the 112" length, bigger heavier logs, cut shorter and put on top of logs that already reach end to end. Probably 2 foot of side 4x's any more and snapping them off will be very likely. . Try and Visually see that thing plum full to top, and remember you gotta be able to stop on slippery hills. Or likewise have traction to pull probably 5,000lbs up hill. Just speaking from personal experience/close calls.. 0.01c . Also have you ever backed up a twin joint trailer, LOL it's fun LOL.
That will work!!! I'd lag bolt the up rights to your log supports.. and a 4x4 under the center and bolt together.. it won't take much for the tractor to destroy the sides.. be gentle my friend and you'll pass it down
Thanks for watching Kenny. I still have to drag them down our trails unless I buck them up to length and then grapple them out. The tractor can't handle the load on the steep hills with the trailer pushing it.....don't ask me how I know, I don't want to relive that moment 🫣🤣. It works great, though, to get the pile of logs from one end of our land to the other by road.
@@bfoutdooradventuresturn the direction you want to go. Or opposite what ya do w a trailer. That collar is there so you have twist at the reach (round tube). No no no, only anchor one corner of deck to the running gear. You're eliminating the ability of the gear to twist doing all four. The chain that's there was around the frame and stringer kitty corner from the anchored corner. You'd want about 3-4 inches of hang in the chain. I can send you pix of one of my wagons if you'd like.
@brandonhoad9033 So what your saying is the 2x10 shouldn't be bolted to the welded pockets on all four corners? I see how the collar works on the front now.
@@bfoutdooradventures nope, just one. Can be any corner. You can put chain around the 2x and frame at the others or just the one kitty corner. Depends on how rough of terrain you're going over. Oh yeah, y'all don't know yet, dairy farmer here . With the fact that you lagged the cross pieces down , going over rough terrain w all corners bolted, the rack will be pulled and twisted w the gear instead of... floating? kinda
@brandonhoad9033 Thanks for the info. I only use it on a level surface and the county road from both entrances to my land. Do you think it would twist too much and cause problems? It won't be used on the trails or in the woods at all due to our steep hills.
Thanks for watching. I don't plan on using it on our trails, they have proven to be too steep, and the smaller size tractor I have can't handle the weight pushing it down them. It gets a little sketchy with a load behind it sometimes.
You might not be able to fasten both sides on each axle. Most gravity wagons and bale wagons I have seen with that frame usually have a chain to hold one side that allows the frame to move down while the box stays touching 2-3 corners. Try lifting up the front axle on one side to see if it pivots at the front bolt area of the tube frame before you make it too rigid.
Thanks Chris, that seems to be the general consensus of the farmers that use these. I will take another look at it and see what revisions I need to make. 👍👍
Most the time is to keep the front of a hay rack from lifting up the front of the rack. We had 33 bales on a rack when the front lifted off the running gear good thing we had a chain on the front to keep it from tipping off the running gear
Very interesting 🧐 💡 will be following the finish and first run of the 🪵log trailer 👍👏🇺🇸 Rick
Thanks for watching Rick. Stay safe and enjoy the fall weather. 👍🪵🪓
Nice build Francis , ready to see it in action !!👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks for watching Del. With my luck it will blow out all four tires. 🤣
I don’t think so , those hay wagons like that carry hundred of pounds . We use to have one . The square bales weighted 75 lbs a piece and we would have that thing loaded down . We would alter the way we stacked the rows so the actually tied them selfs off and would not fall off !!!!
Sweet! Can’t wait to see it hauling a huge load of logs!! Great job Francis👍💪👍
Thanks Jerimiah. I think it is going to reduce trips from one side of our land to the other hauling logs by a lot!! Time is money. 👍🪵🪓
Nice build! 👍
Thanks Terry. We hope it holds up for what we need it for. Trial and error may be a deffinate possibility.
It should good. I've done it. I rigged a boat winch in front to help with the heavy logs. Get front end of your log lifted to the back and winch it in worked pretty good!
Thanks Ted. I think it will work out pretty good with the grapple loading and unloading. If I didn't have the tractor the boat winch or electric winch would be a great option. 👍🪵🪓
good video reason for collar is to let it flex on unlevel ground so all four tire stay on ground. take care, be safe and well.
Thanks for watching John. Thanks for the info on the collar. 👍👍
Should work great
I would use 4x6s or 4x8s for the uprights.
I would lay 4x4s direct on the steel beams as your space for getting forks back in for unloading.
The 4x4 would allow 3.5" of clearance on uneven ground.
Remove the 2x10s allow each end to move over the terrain, that's how log trucks out west work anyway.
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Cut smaller logs for the 112" length, bigger heavier logs, cut shorter and put on top of logs that already reach end to end.
Probably 2 foot of side 4x's any more and snapping them off will be very likely.
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Try and Visually see that thing plum full to top, and remember you gotta be able to stop on slippery hills.
Or likewise have traction to pull probably 5,000lbs up hill.
Just speaking from personal experience/close calls..
0.01c
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Also have you ever backed up a twin joint trailer, LOL it's fun LOL.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I know nothing about farm equipment, as you can tell, so the info is helpful.👍👍
That will work!!! I'd lag bolt the up rights to your log supports.. and a 4x4 under the center and bolt together.. it won't take much for the tractor to destroy the sides.. be gentle my friend and you'll pass it down
Thanks for watching buckin. Thanks for the tip. Hopefully, it holds up to the tractor grapple when I'm taking logs on and off of it.
That better than dragging them through the dirt and you can haul more at one time.
Thanks for watching Kenny. I still have to drag them down our trails unless I buck them up to length and then grapple them out. The tractor can't handle the load on the steep hills with the trailer pushing it.....don't ask me how I know, I don't want to relive that moment 🫣🤣. It works great, though, to get the pile of logs from one end of our land to the other by road.
@bfoutdooradventures I'm happy for you bud, play safe.
Should work pretty good 👍
Thanks for watching Billy, I think it's gonna be a time saver!
Hello Francis, Good idea, 👏🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
Thanks, Larry and Robin. I haven't figured out how to back the darn thing up, but hopefully, I don't have to.
@@bfoutdooradventuresturn the direction you want to go. Or opposite what ya do w a trailer. That collar is there so you have twist at the reach (round tube). No no no, only anchor one corner of deck to the running gear. You're eliminating the ability of the gear to twist doing all four. The chain that's there was around the frame and stringer kitty corner from the anchored corner. You'd want about 3-4 inches of hang in the chain. I can send you pix of one of my wagons if you'd like.
@brandonhoad9033 So what your saying is the 2x10 shouldn't be bolted to the welded pockets on all four corners? I see how the collar works on the front now.
@@bfoutdooradventures nope, just one. Can be any corner. You can put chain around the 2x and frame at the others or just the one kitty corner. Depends on how rough of terrain you're going over. Oh yeah, y'all don't know yet, dairy farmer here . With the fact that you lagged the cross pieces down , going over rough terrain w all corners bolted, the rack will be pulled and twisted w the gear instead of... floating? kinda
@brandonhoad9033 Thanks for the info. I only use it on a level surface and the county road from both entrances to my land. Do you think it would twist too much and cause problems? It won't be used on the trails or in the woods at all due to our steep hills.
I also wonder about the steep terrain.
Thanks for watching. I don't plan on using it on our trails, they have proven to be too steep, and the smaller size tractor I have can't handle the weight pushing it down them. It gets a little sketchy with a load behind it sometimes.
Very nice Francis. Where did you get the running gear from?
Thanks Jeff & Jennie. I picked up the running gear about ten miles from our land. The farmer was not farming anymore and listed it on FB.
@@bfoutdooradventures A nice find for sure, stay safe out there!
You might not be able to fasten both sides on each axle. Most gravity wagons and bale wagons I have seen with that frame usually have a chain to hold one side that allows the frame to move down while the box stays touching 2-3 corners. Try lifting up the front axle on one side to see if it pivots at the front bolt area of the tube frame before you make it too rigid.
Thanks Chris, that seems to be the general consensus of the farmers that use these. I will take another look at it and see what revisions I need to make. 👍👍
Most the time is to keep the front of a hay rack from lifting up the front of the rack. We had 33 bales on a rack when the front lifted off the running gear good thing we had a chain on the front to keep it from tipping off the running gear
Nice Francis should come in handy for y’all 👍👍🪵
Thanks for watching Glenn. We hope it cuts down on 1/2 mile round trip from one end of our land to the other hauling logs.