23/23- My instructor had me land at DTW at night during my PPL in a 172. Before the flight he was concerned I would be scared but I was actually excited to do it. One of the coolest days of flying.
23 for 23: Listening to B ATC comms on LiveATC will give students a taste of the rapid fire comm style pilots must be able to deal with. Study and B prepared before going in is your great advice on this one. Thank you MzeroA!
23 for 23. Landed at our local Class Bravo a couple of times. Couldn’t agree more on the need for preparation. I’d also like to add the importance of listening carefully . Not the place to miss a radio call. Thanks Jason and Matthew!
23 for 23 Started my PP training at PDK 1972. Definitely like Class B these days. Lived in ATL for many years, Never got cleared VFR into the B. But the VFR corridors helped.
Upon getting my private pilot certificate, my first flight was to KIAD (Washington Dulles) for a full-stop landing and taxi back for take-off in a C172. I did it as an exercise to operate in Class B. The approach controllers were surprised with the request but were very accommodating. They have bulk busy hours when they wouldn't allow this, but I got my clearance easily. I was embarrassed to see an Emirates A380 lined up on a crossing runway and waiting for me to land before taking off :)
23 for 23...Landed at KMSY (Louis Armstrong International New Orleans) in a 172. Most of my training was done at KNEW (Lakefront New Orleans). We have a class B airspace right over KNEW class D.
I got my PPL at 17 in 1977. But I didn't get good guidance for an aviation. I became a trucker. What you just explained (!), applies to the trucker when moving into big cities trying to get into shippers or receivers. I find my aviation training translates into trucking often. I've been a professional driver since 1992. Thank you!
23/23 - flying into Class B as a private pilot can be daunting but after you’ve done it a time or two it’s not so bad, pay attention, be patient, and brevity on the comms are key
KVRB Vero Beach is always crazy. The experience gets down to if you get the calm ATC or the ‘attitude’ ATC. But, multiple flight schools and corporate traffic certainly ads up to more than most class C… but often crazier than class B.
23/23. I live in the SF Bay Area, and we have a LOT of bravo coverage due to SFO, and also have two class charlie airports (OAK and SJC). I fly out of LVK, which is delta, but can get pretty busy on the weekends. Haven't flown into bravo air space...yet.
23/23 flew into Charlotte International VFR in my Cherokee 180. It was very busy but I was ready and it was a great experience! A lot of wake turbulence notices from ATC. Lol
23 for 23: Good discussion. My home airport is NW of ORD and I go to KVLL just north of DTW and under their Class B airspace. My initial trips were a little intimidating. But now it's not daunting at all. I do try to keep my passengers quiet when I'm in Class B airspace. I have even taught my wife to be listening for our call sign and what they are asking me to do. like looking for traffic or frequency changes. I've even got her changing the frequencies on the radio. If you make your crew partially responsible for the activities they will enjoy the flight more and will understand why its not time for involved conversations.
23/23. Being from Chicago area (KUGN), I have flown in and around Class-B airspace a lot. Never landed at KORD. My favorite flight to Detroit suburbs was when the controller took me right over KORD at 6000MSL. That was very kind of him because he saved me 20mins flying around the Class B to the west to avoid the big pond to the east. It also meant he had to warn me about a lot of traffic (I’m thinking by regulation) even though none of it would likely have been an issue. Honestly straight over the middle of the Airport at that altitude is probably the safest air space in the world when you think about it. It was a scattered-cloud Saturday morning so I think that was definitely a factor. I also have my own personal theory based on one data point that Pilot-Controllers are more sympathetic and willing to route us single engine GA guys over KORD if it’s a reasonable effort. Regardless, I’m grateful for whatever the reason. And, “Yes” short and succinct on the radio is a must. Listening to Live ATC to hear how the commercial guys communicate is helpful to learn the cleaner radio communication.
23 for 23 -- I see a comment below about Broomfield-CO. KBJC - Delta IS busy. Have done all my training there and transitioned through B (Denver) since we are right next to it. It has made me a better pilot.
Way back when I got my PPL (1972) and did my Commercial Training (1973-74) Class Bravo wasn't a thing. However, after a 40 year absence from flying (Yep, there's a story) I was able to secure a 3rd Class SI and got back with an instructor. One day he asks, have we done the PHX Bravo transition yet? No we hadn't, so he demonstrated how easy it really is. 1st with cold call, then saying request. ATC gives us altitude and squawk code. It was actually not bad at all.
23 for 23 Been many years since I have flown through Class B. Might have to do that again with my instructor on my next IR training flight just for the experience.
Twenty three for twenty three! Reviewing the shape, altitudes and distances of the Class B is critical. Denver Class B has very interesting cutouts, shelves. Look it over and come out and fly Colorado! Training in Cheyenne, WY, we did flights to Denver Class B during training. FUN! Well done, sirs! Jer/ Eberhard, Ft Collins Colorado Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD.
23 for 23. Haven't flown into them yet but I know teterboro airport is busy amd just under class b airspace for newark airport. Also in close proximity to Essex and Morristown municipal class d, all under bravo shelf. Must be fun.😅
23 for 23 from the Philippines.
23 for 23! Excellent advice!!
23/23- My instructor had me land at DTW at night during my PPL in a 172. Before the flight he was concerned I would be scared but I was actually excited to do it. One of the coolest days of flying.
23 for 23: Listening to B ATC comms on LiveATC will give students a taste of the rapid fire comm style pilots must be able to deal with. Study and B prepared before going in is your great advice on this one. Thank you MzeroA!
23/23. Bravo is something I would practice in a sim before attempting it in real life
23 for 23. I've never landed at a Bravo airport, but I have transitioned through and it's always good to hear "cleared into Bravo airspace."
23/23 - Great video. As someone who trained out of an non-towered field, Cs and Bs were something that I did only after getting my ticket.
23/23 Always Learning!
23 of 23, been to Class B many time in GA and it is always a challenge, but doable! Broomfield airport west of DIA can be VERY busy!!!
23 for 23: As always, I appreciate the advice on how to improve my skills as a pilot.
23 of 23 I need more time in the Bravo and this gave some better insight.
23 for 23! Thanks for this.
23 for 23. Landed at our local Class Bravo a couple of times. Couldn’t agree more on the need for preparation. I’d also like to add the importance of listening carefully . Not the place to miss a radio call. Thanks Jason and Matthew!
23 for 23- Yes indeed, another great video! Those thinks that make a person nervous are often the things that person needs to do more.
23 of 23. Bravo is not bad. Not much different from flight following radio wise. BUT get permission and adhere to altitudes and headings.
23 for 23. KIAD is one of my goals.
23 for 23 Started my PP training at PDK 1972. Definitely like Class B these days. Lived in ATL for many years, Never got cleared VFR into the B. But the VFR corridors helped.
Clear Prop !! 23/23
23 for 23, another great reminder ,Thank You.
23/23 loving this series for another year
23/23 - Clear and concise. Helpful! Thank you
Upon getting my private pilot certificate, my first flight was to KIAD (Washington Dulles) for a full-stop landing and taxi back for take-off in a C172. I did it as an exercise to operate in Class B. The approach controllers were surprised with the request but were very accommodating. They have bulk busy hours when they wouldn't allow this, but I got my clearance easily. I was embarrassed to see an Emirates A380 lined up on a crossing runway and waiting for me to land before taking off :)
23/23. Enjoyed Bravo visit when my instructor was with me, but I generally them avoid them (220 hr VFR PPL)!
23 for 23. Thank you.
23/23 I have been watching your videos since my wife bought me a student pilot kit, your videos are always encouraging, thanks!!
23 for 23...Landed at KMSY (Louis Armstrong International New Orleans) in a 172. Most of my training was done at KNEW (Lakefront New Orleans). We have a class B airspace right over KNEW class D.
I got my PPL at 17 in 1977. But I didn't get good guidance for an aviation. I became a trucker. What you just explained (!), applies to the trucker when moving into big cities trying to get into shippers or receivers. I find my aviation training translates into trucking often. I've been a professional driver since 1992. Thank you!
23/23 - flying into Class B as a private pilot can be daunting but after you’ve done it a time or two it’s not so bad, pay attention, be patient, and brevity on the comms are key
23/23, great points
KVRB Vero Beach is always crazy. The experience gets down to if you get the calm ATC or the ‘attitude’ ATC. But, multiple flight schools and corporate traffic certainly ads up to more than most class C… but often crazier than class B.
23/23. I live in the SF Bay Area, and we have a LOT of bravo coverage due to SFO, and also have two class charlie airports (OAK and SJC). I fly out of LVK, which is delta, but can get pretty busy on the weekends. Haven't flown into bravo air space...yet.
23/23 Still learning.... "Clearance thru Bravo airspace" is always a good thing!! Do not be afraid! Take all the help you can get!
23/23 Great Teaching! Always Learning!!! et
23 of 23! 😊
23/23 flew into Charlotte International VFR in my Cherokee 180. It was very busy but I was ready and it was a great experience! A lot of wake turbulence notices from ATC. Lol
23 for 23: Good discussion. My home airport is NW of ORD and I go to KVLL just north of DTW and under their Class B airspace. My initial trips were a little intimidating. But now it's not daunting at all. I do try to keep my passengers quiet when I'm in Class B airspace. I have even taught my wife to be listening for our call sign and what they are asking me to do. like looking for traffic or frequency changes. I've even got her changing the frequencies on the radio. If you make your crew partially responsible for the activities they will enjoy the flight more and will understand why its not time for involved conversations.
23 for 23; have a plan for flying, especially for Bravo (and Charlie) - B for Busy. Good recommendations.
23 X 23. Thank you
23 for 23 - cleared into the Bravo!
23/23 - KRVS is Delta that should be Bravo. Historically one of the busiest airports in the country, regardless of class.
23 / 23 Looking forward to Class B.
23 for 23 Yes it can be intimidating Thanks guys
23/23. Being from Chicago area (KUGN), I have flown in and around Class-B airspace a lot. Never landed at KORD. My favorite flight to Detroit suburbs was when the controller took me right over KORD at 6000MSL. That was very kind of him because he saved me 20mins flying around the Class B to the west to avoid the big pond to the east. It also meant he had to warn me about a lot of traffic (I’m thinking by regulation) even though none of it would likely have been an issue. Honestly straight over the middle of the Airport at that altitude is probably the safest air space in the world when you think about it. It was a scattered-cloud Saturday morning so I think that was definitely a factor. I also have my own personal theory based on one data point that Pilot-Controllers are more sympathetic and willing to route us single engine GA guys over KORD if it’s a reasonable effort. Regardless, I’m grateful for whatever the reason. And, “Yes” short and succinct on the radio is a must. Listening to Live ATC to hear how the commercial guys communicate is helpful to learn the cleaner radio communication.
Landed a Piper Comanche at KMCI while flying VFR in the middle of the day. Had a C-17 waiting for me to land in order to take off.
23 for 23 -- I see a comment below about Broomfield-CO. KBJC - Delta IS busy. Have done all my training there and transitioned through B (Denver) since we are right next to it. It has made me a better pilot.
23/23 - bravo is something I’ve not braved yet in my career but it’s on the list!
Way back when I got my PPL (1972) and did my Commercial Training (1973-74) Class Bravo wasn't a thing. However, after a 40 year absence from flying (Yep, there's a story) I was able to secure a 3rd Class SI and got back with an instructor. One day he asks, have we done the PHX Bravo transition yet? No we hadn't, so he demonstrated how easy it really is. 1st with cold call, then saying request. ATC gives us altitude and squawk code. It was actually not bad at all.
23 for 23 Been many years since I have flown through Class B. Might have to do that again with my instructor on my next IR training flight just for the experience.
23 of 23!
Addison is where I trained. Yes sireeee and under the 3,000’ bravo shelf
23 for 23. Worked survey/photo in all three Bravos in FL
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Twenty three for twenty three! Reviewing the shape, altitudes and distances of the Class B is critical. Denver Class B has very interesting cutouts, shelves. Look it over and come out and fly Colorado! Training in Cheyenne, WY, we did flights to Denver Class B during training. FUN! Well done, sirs! Jer/ Eberhard, Ft Collins Colorado Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD.
23 for 23 great review.
23 for 23. Haven't flown into them yet but I know teterboro airport is busy amd just under class b airspace for newark airport. Also in close proximity to Essex and Morristown municipal class d, all under bravo shelf. Must be fun.😅
23 for 23. I'm a student and I haven't flown into class B yet. First time I do, it'll probably be BWI. I'm nervous but looking forward to it!
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23 for 23. Learned to fly under the ORD Class B!
23 for 23 Flying the Corridor through LAX, as I look down, I say to myself, uh, not today and continued on my way.
23 for 23 !! Lets go
23 for 23. I haven’t ever landed at a Bravo! I do plan on landing there this summer though!
23 for 23! 🏝
23 of 23. Not had a chance to fly into the Canadian Equivalent (Class C). Planning soon though.
23 for 23. Been to Class Delta and Charlie, never Bravo.
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23/23 🇬🇧 we don’t have Class B in the UK but still a useful video ref going into controlled airspace
23 for 23. I'm excited to be class Bravo fluent!
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23 for 23 !!! 🙂
23/23 Under both a Bravo and Charlie shelf. Now that I'm comfortable with comm, it's not that big a deal.
Two three for two three !
23 for 23 yes I must say bravo can be a bit intimidating especially first time around as the PIC
23 - 4 - 23. Spent my life avoiding Class B.
I often find it easier to request Class Bravo Clearance if I'm already talking to them in VFR Flight Following
Colleen and Evan in frosty Wisconsin 23 for 23. We don't even have a class bravo in Wisconsin, too cold.
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23 for 23, many years of flying But never been in a Bravo, guess I should put it on my flying Bucket list.
23 for 23: only done class delta here, and Charlie is the big ( for NZ) airports…but interested to see how you all cope..
23 for 23 Jas!
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23/23 from Clermont FL
Twenty-three for twenty-three!
23/23 B for Big Boys
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23 for twenty-three!
23 -4- 23 Days!
I'm gonna ask my instructor if we can go do a touch and go at DFW just to see her reaction. 😉
23/23 80hr yet to be in a bravo
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23 for 23 from OKV
23/23 - Is there really any difference from Class C other than getting "cleared to enter"?
23 for 23. I am currently working on mastering Delta airspace communications, so Bravo is not on my radar, pun intended 😂
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Why don’t private pilot trainings include more instruction on use of radios$
Twenty-Three 4 Twenty-Three. Funny I was just trying to remember when I last flew into a Bravo and out of one.