That's like a common saying around the MGTOW community, even back when some of the UA-cam channels were shadowbanned (they claim, I think). Oh man, MGTOW, that's a rabbit hole lol.
I have a friend who I spoke to recently where he is at the age of 35. He has a decent job, a house, and yet he is unable to find any women because he couldn't find any decent women (as in good personality women). He has... Told me that, when his mother is gone, he will be following her footsteps soon. Hearing that hurts me a lot and I wish I can do more for a fellow man. The scary thing is, this situation may become my future. I am not in a relationship and I don't intend to due to my personality issues and financial circumstances dissuading me from pursuing a relationship. I have a measly livable wage, and a house loan. And when my mother is gone, I don't even know what to do after that.
@@williamlim5261 In a similar boat, though i have a sister that will still be here when my mother passes. The only thing keeping me from taking a similar fate is them.
We're treated like shit everywhere we turn. Nobody wants to treat us like people. We are wallets and labor, and that's all society wants from us. Men's mental health, the male loneliness epidemic, the huge difference in mortality rates in the workforce, the immensely unbalanced rate of victimhood in violent crimes, the male suicide rate- nobody gives a shit. I've had one serious relationship. It ended 5 years ago. I was emotionally and psychologically abused, and nobody cared when I talked about it at time, and they cared even less afterwards. I was victimized by multiple people as a kid, and all I was ever told was how "lucky" I was to get laid, or how other people would've "jumped at the opportunity". When my family learned about my self harm issues, instead of getting me help, put me on complete social lockdown. No internet, no TV, no music, and every sharp object in the house was locked away, even though I did 90% of the cooking, so I had to be watched when I was doing so. Two years ago when I was almost killed by my roommate in a drunken fight, no charges were pressed, and it was never discussed again. Police refused to help, and I had to go back a few days later because I had a job and house to maintain. The world doesn't care about men. Why should we care about the world? Edit: I appreciate the kind words, folks. A lot of things are in the past, and I've moved on for the most part. I made this comment for people like myself who have been treated with apathy and scorn for nothing else but how they were born. You are allowed to be hurt by the things that happen to you. You're allowed to be human. People may disagree or be unwilling to admit their faults, but they don't matter. Their thoughts and opinions on your experience do. Not. Matter. Take care of yourselves, and take care of each other. We're all we have. Let's make the world better, for ourselves, and everyone around us, regardless of the backlash. Ask your friends how they're doing. If you see someone going through hard times, offer them an open ear, at least. I understand my final words of the original post are counter to what I say now, but we can only make things better if we have the empathy and motivation the rest of society doesn't. We can't fight hatred and ignorance with more hatred and ignorance. We need to be the change we want to see in the world, because at the end of the day, we are the only ones who care.
The world doesn't, but other men do. I've been working on rebuilding my male friendships. Women can kick sand all day, as far as I care. I know, at the very least, my boys have got my back. I'm not gonna let another one of those venomous harpies try to get her claws into me.
"If you work for another 50 years, you too can have the faintest fragment of a life that you really want. You get a used up woman who will never love you, rent an apartment you can't afford, and raise kids that aren't yours. Wait why are you not working hard?"
@@hotdog5927 I could say but after thinking for a sec i realized my comment would be flagged as terrorism speak or some such nonsense so rather than getting banned i will just say Yea.
no wonder you think your life is miserable and you're the victim of this evil society if you use the term 'used up woman' whatever the fuck is that supposed to mean. this is actual retardation
“Dating is available to anyone at a single swipe.” What an out of touch thing to say. Less than 1 of every 100 users ever get to go on a single date by using those apps. 90% of men get no matches and the rest use it for causal sex.
There is a point to it, in that "you have access to attempting to connect with more people than before", despite the very next step being the very limiter that leads to your point (Aka not getting matches on dating apps if you don't meet a specific standard/ getting into the algorythm). Imagine seeing a grocery store in the distance. Technically, you have access to stand outside the door at any given moment, but it doesn't mean that you can just waltz in and buy things if the store is closed. Same kinda deal with dating today. You can go onto a app, and attempt to match with far more women than you would be able to attempt courting 50+ years ago (when you were limited to mostly your local community and maybe the big city if you had the means to get there), but that doesn't mean you WILL get matches.
and the best part is that the program deliberately gives you bad matches. if you get what you look for, you'll stop using it and the makers of the program make no more money off of you viewing its ads. so you never get the best matches, it always gives you bad results to make sure your relationship fails and you return back to the program and milk you for all the ad revenue they can.
@@user-kc2fu8iw3v how does that work? How does watching ads make them money? Do they have the servers attached to a money printer or something? I mean it doesn't make sense.
Can confirm. Gave up, no one cared. And it's not just the economy, it's everything. Everywhere I go or look I can't help but shake the feeling that I'm participating in a system that is propped up to benefit amoral sociopaths and any attempts to fix gets you branded as the bad man. It's the fact that it feels like having a conscience seems to be just unnecessary debuff in modern society and I honestly can't tell if I'm the sucker or not by trying to play by the rules instead of just taking what I want from everyone whenever I can.
The reality is you are a sucker if you have to rely and survive in a society. Only the fortunate, hard working and sociable people are able to 'succeed.' If you are not going to play the game or subject yourself to the whims of your job then you are completely on your own.
There's a saying "Most men die at 25, but just aren’t buried until they’re 75." Many of us often wander through life just existing but never truly living due to how depressed we are and that we often suffer in silence because we know most people dont give a shit.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 doesn't help that most men seem to inherently understand that we are disposable in the eyes of society. It's partially why we suffer in silence because not only do we understand painfully well no one would likely care but also because if we do open up we will likely be discarded or at least have it thrown back in our face at some point.
@@laucorn123 This, sadly this SO MUCH! I am in my 40s and I have sat back and watch, when they finally started asking, about 20 to 25 years of them asking, "What's wrong with men?" and the very moment we open our mouth we are pretty much told to shut up, we are lying, go to the gym and get a shower, etc, etc, etc. Hell The only time we are allowed to talk really is when they talk for us which is normally a woman talking for/about men, and a hand full of men that are doing darn well for themselves, WAY better than the average guy at best, then with said woman(s) they sit back talk and shame and insult the very men they asked, "Hey, what's the problem?" It took me getting older in my late 20s and early 30s to realize what was going on, and yet now it's SO much worse that guys in their teens and 20s are seeing it, and if they are seeing it WAY earlier than I did, how the hell does that look someone like me trying to play then "You don't know what you are talking about" or the "You are too young for saying such things", NAH! That just shows me it has gotten SO MUCH WORSE! Worse part is that I honestly can't even tell you if there is a fix. It's too many things upon things stacked on each other to be just one thing. Years ago I used to think that, "Okay there will be a "THING" that will happen and then they will realize both, "OH crap we do need them and maybe we where wrong", but fast forward to know and I feel like I read too many comic books to think like that because they REALLY don't care, like it come down to the "wire" and they would rather double and triple down in our final hours than even once care. With stuff like this I could be totally wrong, and you know what? I WANT TO BE WRONG! *I want to be so wrong that wrong that they get it right!*
Ironic how not long ago it was popular to celebrate single mothers achievements... And now it is result of their self compensating brainwashing of their girls "don't take care of him, that's a bad deal"
I dated a woman for several months. She ended up getting pregnant and so I stepped up, got her a car, got her an apartment, took her to the doctor. Everything I could. Later I found out the kid wasn’t mine. So yeah, I’ve checked out.
Gotta love how paternity fraud isn't even punished meanwhile half the time the man is still forced to pay for child support even after proving that the kid isn't his... You signed the birth certificate thinking the kid was yours? Too bad because that counts as you adopting it so now it's your responsibility so pay up for the next 18 years or get thrown in jail. Even little boys who were taken advantage of by their teacher are forced to pay child support for a kid they couldn't even legally consent to when the teacher gets pregnant, that's just how little society cares about men... Her body, her choice, his responsibility.
"Why are men giving up?" Because we get told we cant do anything. It's terrible to be a man nowadays. We're supposed to protect women. But if we do that we are told that we are being toxic. We're supposed to bring home money. But we can never bring home enough. Every ounce of money goes out to pay for stuff we'll never own. We're supposed to buy food. But to make anything worth eating is almost $200 for two days worth of food. We can't afford to live. So of course we are checking out.
My mom always says, “You must get your oxygen mask on yourself before you can give someone else theirs.” Now more than even do I truly understand what’s she saying.
And the only way to fix it is by letting men be men. Our society has become so feminized to point its falling apart and we're watching it happen in real time. Saving society is what will save men by giving them a purpose but society hates men and doesn't want to be saved and if we try to do it by force then we're the bad guys. It's really sad.
Women got their revenge and the lesbians are happy because they get more tail but the straight women are in an abusive relationship with the lesbians aching for the feel of a penis in their vagina instead of a soulless piece of plastic.
Long before that, when i noticed tensions starting rising again and I read how Americans are ready to show those ruskies what's up, I realized - countries are about to devour themselves, due to constant focus on foreign threat and ignoring internal threat
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь Bro, that's what a foreign threat (real or imagined, btw) is for. To take the populace's attention away from issues on the domestic front. Oldest trick in the book. We're being played. Again.
Alana I'll be totally honest here. I survived 18 years in prison after I beat my ex-wife's dope dealer into the hospital. She testified against me and took everything I had. I will not get in a relationship ever again. I don't even want to date. The only thing keeping me alive is my dog Bella. Once she passes I will be less than 2 weeks behind her. I just don't care anymore. I bowed out back in the 2010's and have made peace with myself. The sad thing is that maybe 2 people will ever miss me or even care. You are such a positive voice and I hope that you keep it up. You are a wonderful person.
Find a purpose for yourself. My main goal was to get my own home. I then turned it to writing books. Then worked on leaving Massachusetts to find a better place to live. Set yourself some goals that are not impossible.
Every time I try to tell anyone that everything is stacked against the average person, especially men, they tell me to shut up, and to stop complaining because everything is not that bad. I must admit, I am very curious as to what "that bad" feels like. And how many lives the bad will take.
Humans have a tendency to adapt to harsh environnement One day, the "that bad" will become the norm and the happy imbeciles will comfort themselves thinking "it can be worse"
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь nah, you see "it's not that bad" on a wide scale. Not from the perspective of the pillars of a working society: young, able bodied men.
The ones who say that are usually those who grew up in Easier than Easy mode boomer generation. Honestly right now, the only hope is for you to get that blue book and hop on the plane, get a Filipina or a Thai woman.
@@denkerbosu3551 That's exactly what he said, though. Things are still too good for the average person for the change required. A few missed meals, being afraid to go out in the street... Now THAT is enlightening.
My theory is that, people generally viewed "men" as being advantaged because most millionaires and billionaires are men. In reality, only a small % of men had the advantages that people assumed all men had. To compensate for the perceived advantages of men, women got lots of new advantages, affirmative actions, grants, all manner of different things to try and close the gap. this means that right now the people who are most likely to succeed are men from rich families as they always have, and women. Meanwhile the average joe man has basically been abandoned.
That'll be the Apex Fallacy. Since wahmens are hypergamous, they only see those men that are 'above' them in social position/status, and men 'below' them are literally invisible. Hence, to them, _all men_ are super-privileged, since those are the only cohort they're capable of perceiving. You can see this in action when women proclaim how they don't need men at all - utterly oblivious to the millions of men who build and maintain the infrastructure which makes their comfortable, cosseted lives possible, and without whom they - we - would all perish. It's not even their fault, really, it's just their nature.
it also further dooms the average guy, as a species, men paired down or on the same level, while women always paired up, or equal. So now the new "equal pairing" is further pushing men down, while women perceive themself even higher than ever before
I also am a "function over form" kinda guy, but there's a limit for everything. Sure you don't need to live in beautiful looking buildings, but you also don't want to live in decaying gray concrete slabs of a building
This, plenty of study that say some greenery in the streets will lift people spirit alot and thry will become happier, also the reason i do not want to live in a city concrete hell hole
I recommend you check out a documentary by Sir Roger Scruton on beauty, it talks a lot about these topics. Form over function is actually a very fair position to take and I say that as an engineer. Beauty is crucial for health, which is why everything is being made ugly nowadays. Pure demoralization.
im also a function over form guy....helping out in an antiques shop so im holding on super hard not to yell ''who cares?'' 15 times a day when, for example, the 2 blinders in the window arent a prefect mirror image of each other
One big reason why immigration is pushed that much in first world countries: increasing the "workforce" aka people needing a job, to keep wages low and prices high (basic supply and demand). In germany we are told repeatedly in each and every newspaper, etc. "we need at least 300-400 thousand immigrants per year to stay competitive in a globalised market". The humanitarian stuff they tack on is just to make the idea more palatable to the public.
Depressing wages and increasing real estate values are true, but the overall costs of importing third-worlders outways in them in overall value. Every one imported is literally a drain on the whole system, talking in averages. That's just financial, it doesn't even figure the social disruption and strife they create.
"Soviet Union bad beep bop boop". My parents say somethings were better, somethings were worse in Soviet Union. People actually worked and made top notch products.
@@johnjohnsky4845 Top notch. Like the power plant that exploded. The submarine that exploded. The aircraft carrier that...well actually, DIDN'T explode, probably because it was built in Ukraine before it was stolen. And then the other submarine that also exploded...when it had no live rounds in it. OR perhaps we're talking about their tank program, where their tank explodes so hard it sends its turret to low orbit. People worked? I'll give you that, they worked until they died, which didn't take that long in the gulag.
It just feels like everyone is ignoring and denying the fact that young men are frustrated that the world and everyone around are using them as an emotional punching bag. From blaming them about the toxicity of the internet to even state of the economy and politics. Young men are being used as a scapegoat by every single generation, race, religion, ideology, etc and they're tired from it all.
And when the problem IS brought up, they get yelled at harder like "WOMEN HAVE PROBLEMS TOO"! Basically completely shoving the issue aside like an total ass. Dealing with people like that nonstop, no wonder these gentlemen don't give a damn. Why should they? They're rewarded with unhinged, unprovoked, total hatred. I'm no M so I don't like those "rewards" either. So I agree with the young men's approach 👍
Growing up in Sweden. Back in the eighties my dad, who was a construction worker in his mid 20's, bought a newly built house in a safe quiet neighborhood. It was no problem for him to afford it. Everybody on this newly built street was working class. Noone of the moms had to work unless they wanted to. Every family had 2 cars,, 2-4 kids, yearly vacations away, and a comfortable life on one working class paycheck. Those times are never comming back and its sad.
Don't get me started. I remember when I was like Teen/Mid Teen and I started planning stuff with so many hopes, dreams, and expectations. Planning things out like buying an apartment of my own, saving money for a Starter home (I hate these are gone now), and other plans and moves to make. From my Teens to my mid 20s I watch as the prices went insane from apartment to homes, collage prices went insane and the first group to start suffering life time debt and the whole darn near promise of having a job after leaving collage just totally stop. Speaking of jobs, I watched as jobs stop training you in places that where entry level suddenly change. At first requiring you to have so much collage credit, which pretty much felt like a way to gate keep certain people out, but when everyone and their mom had no problems going to collage, only to then move to the now needing to have 3-6 years experience on entry-level jobs. Now days with needing a bachelors or more added on to that for pay that is $12-14 hour/ salary at best. I mean I could go on and on and on! Now days I sometimes sit back annoyed I wasn't older back then and could have gotten in on things before they started changing lol. I don't blame Gen Z for being upset at how things are, but man they have no idea what is was like being just old enough to WATCH as everything changed and being 3-5 years out of reach to do anything about it and seeing it end up as it is now. I'd rather have not know and learn about it and be upset than to watch it happen and be powerless to even make moves because you are 3-5 too young to make moves.
@@wrongthinker843 ah i see....leftist activist here trying to imply that history is all false to justify writing a new one ....that will assurely includde a LOT of alphabet and black people.....
@wrongthinker843 of course everyone is willing to throw off the shackles. But if you do, there is nothing left. What are you gonna do? Become homeless? Starve to death? The reward for breaking our shackles is heightened suffering.
Also make a secret different bank account just in case. They take for granted to look out for themselves cuz they're taught by their single moms to ok that. Men don't get that well advised in response, and that's the issue. Then they're pikachu shocked to see men seeking this content online.
Worked for the Mayans. Yeah the empire ended but the people are still around, basically one day went ya know what I’ll take the woods over being sacrificed.
I remember seeing an open job in Finland for a forestry machine driver, the requirements unironically was 40 years of experience and you had to understand and speak 4 languages on top of the native language. I actually couldn't hold laughter back when i saw it
Hey, what if you encounter a dragonling, a goblin, a nymph and a treant? You need to pass the language skill checks, unless you can fight them... can you?
@@Ehins It's more funny, when job asks for 10 year experience in something, that only appeared 5 years ago. Does someone have time machine to have 20 year of experience, while being only 18 years old?
Since you brought up trade jobs, there’s a huge issue with machining and a few other trades where old guys will literally die without having taught anyone, they hoard very important knowledge and then take it with them to the grave. On top of the nepotism of old guys only hiring old guys, it’s a massive black hole. God forbid you ask any of them a question.
Ive been a machinist over 10 years and can partially attest to that. Some are more than happy to teach while others are total hardasses. The other issue is lack of young people going in the trades
I feel bad for yall I've taught dozens of machinist over the last 20 years, most are still in the trade. I don't consider myself an old guy though(44)... I'm also not a teacher, I just run a machine. Edit But you are 100% right in that knowledge is leaving the workplace without having been passed on. When I first started I was the young guy. I'm still the young guy...
I did run in to that with the machining aspect of things. I went through a 'fast track' course for basic machining that taught some CAD and whatnot, but most of it was manual rather that CNC. Going back to the machining side of things; the two places that I did wind up working, the one hired me in to finish a contract for them that lasted a month and a half, I was handed my pink slip by the shop boss, not even the owner who was the one who interviewed me, and told 'get out, good luck'. I was taught -nothing- by anyone there other than how to run the machine that I was on that already had a pre-loaded program. The other place was something I did get via nepotism through my father and his connections; I started there and had a great teacher who helped me along the way, but the shop bosses didn't like that he was teaching me things, so he legit pushed me into a different shift and then let me fall flat on my face as I didn't have the experience necessary to run the machines to their standards without help. These machines were from the 1940's and were drip-fed from a 3.86 computer to "NC" programming through a relay cabinet the size of a large refrigerator...I didn't know how to fix it when it broke (which it did constantly), I tried learning, asking questions, etc...Nope; They wanted a full blown machinist and treated me like shit because I wasn't one, and then I made -one- mistake on a piece of 1 1/4" bar stock that we had -tons- of in stock and the mistake would be easily fixed, but naw...they shit-canned me. Finding out later through that mentor that I had that I was actually sabotaged because the shop lead didn't like me. Fun stuff. Now I work retail...wishing I had a time machine to go back to when I was 19 and before injuries and such took their toll, and go in to plumbing, or masonry, or welding, HVAC, etc...
Men will crawl through broken glass for a purpose. Financial issues are such a tiny portion of why we have given up thats its almost irrelivent when discussing solutions. Women dont need men when the state does everything men once did. Unless you create a new incentive structure that benefits both men and women the problem will continue to get worse
The catch is that you can't create such system to benefit both genders and keep it as free society One of the gender would eventually learn that it's the scam and revolt
I think part of the reason men give up is because no matter path we take we still lose! Even entry level jobs have higher barriers of entry than they’ve ever had, if you can get a job it’s usually not enough to live on and you’re still expected to be a provider and make more money than your partner. If you have mental health issue and ask for help you’re ridiculed and if you don’t ask for help you are ridiculed for hiding or eating your emotions. The list just goes on even if we “win” we still lose
Can still change the map, get massive debt that you'll never and a secure online/remote job, then use the blue book to hop on a plane as a runaway plan. The Philippines is a good place to go to, or Thailand. Cambodia is giga cheaper if you can learn the language. There's also other South American countries if you can get past the language barrier to.
What's exactly the point of trying to get a good paying job as a guy when you are more than likely going to be skipped over because of DEI? I swear, they are trying to force men to join the Military, cause increasingly that's pretty much the only job that doesn't require a frikken masters degree on an "entry" level job.
@@Eremiyah not quite. a lot of young men from families that made up the backbone of the military aren't joining up because of the false promises and treatment of veterans with medical issues. so the military is getting a bit desperate.
Well, they probably are. Enlistment among all the traditional bedrock military groups is way down and the top brass are panicking. If you want to know who the Military is desperate to get, check who's being featured in the recruitment ads.
7:35 "Unemployment has dropped..." Unemployment is measured by how many people are receiving unemployment benefits. Those benefits are not permanent; they last maybe a year or so, and then you can't get them anymore. So yeah, when people aren't finding jobs, and they run out of unemployment benefits, the unemployment would go down, on paper. Low unemployment numbers does not equate to high employment rate. The same numbers would be shown for a country whose job market is nonexistent, and whose citizens can't find work, post-benefit expiration.
Here, unemployment only counts those seeking employment. So if they are retired, stay-at-home, investors, doing informal work, full-time students... they don't count as unemployed. But of course then they also don't count those who just gave up.
Jobhobbers aren't counted for unemployment either because of the minimum two weeks requirement just to get started. Glad someone brought up the dropoff making the economy look better than it actually is.
when I was growing up I was abused heavily by my alcoholic mother. No one cared. I was depressed and suic*dal by the time I was 8 years old. No one cared. I saw my father with a black eye when he took me to school more than once, no one cared. The abuse only stopped when my older brother got too big to smack around anymore and smacked my mother back. Young men learn very early in life that no one is coming to save them, because no one cares. Men are simply learning that there's no point in playing a game you were never expected or able to win to begin with.
Your brother is very lucky she didn't press charges. Mine would've. The pattern I often see with violent women is that they are really good at acting this way while still fooling their victims into thinking that they have the moral high ground, which might be why they often get away with what they do. They need to make sure that their victims are in a position where they wouldn't even think of fighting back or else, there goes their whole way of life. Maybe violent men are the same way, I haven't met any in my experience.
@@fatalerror8943 My brother was only 16 at the time, legally still a minor (I think at least). All he'd have to say is that it was self-defence, my father and I would have backed him up, suddenly my mother would have been going down for "assault on a minor", then we'd simply tell the cops EVERYTHING she's ever done to us and she could have been looking at over a decade in prison. Probably longer. She had no leverage, my brother had simply had enough, he didn't care about any consequences. He did what he had to do.
@@fl1bble He was braver than I was. I felt like I was biting the hand that fed me. Even if I lashed out like that, I know my other family members would be too scared to back me up. The time I stood up to mine, I was already damn near beaten down to a empty shell. I dropped out of college due to being too depressed to focus on my studies, depressed because I was still recovering from a breakup (I haven't gotten a new girlfriend to this day, it really messed me up), and I was stuck at my parents house with an entry level remote job being my only hope of escape. She started belittling me for being a few minutes late to the first day (which my boss was 30 minutes late so he didn't know nor would he have cared that much) and all I did was laugh. I kept laughing and she got angrier. Knowing she can't do much to hurt me, she kept pounding on the table, throwing things around, screaming as loud as she could. It was hilarious and I kept making jokes like asking her what the table did to her. It felt so liberating. She kicked me out of the home and my life has mostly been on an upward trend since. Her behavior since then still wasn't perfect but it was far better because she no longer has any leverage over me. Now, she only acts out when she is stressed and takes it out on everyone around her. I feel bad for my father though. I cannot imagine living with someone who you have to constantly walk on eggshells around for the rest of your life. It sounds like misery. sorry for the essay.
@anthonywalker6268 true, true. This also means that any solution is hipelessly late for the men that already gave up to society. The great reset is coming.
It depends on perspective. For example, in their long history, Portugal and Spain were once unified under the same court for 80 years. Doesn't sound like much but it was enough time for 2 or 3 generations to lead full lives* without knowing anything but a unified Iberian Kingdom. *: keeping in mind the life expectancy of the era
A good example of why you should always look at agreeable things with a critical eye. The video makes a lot of good points and exposes a real, serious problem, but then attributes it to a practically unrelated thing. Manly men with muscles, testosterone and chest-hair are broke and jobless too.
When society shits on us constantly for the last 20 - 30 years why should we still care? We got the skills to keep society running, we got all the abilities and we are the guys who kept it running for the longest part. Only to get shit on, only to not be seen and recognized by the other gender and society in general, so why should we still care? What logical reason is there to stay in the game only to get nowhere and be looked upon? It is a little like Einsteins quote: If you try the same thing over and over again and expect a different result then that is the definition of insanity. We are trying something different now and it seems to be working.
You saying that like you're not the reason why society shits on you. Like, why people with skills are supposed to be praised for their work and support, when they can't praise themselves? They get shy out by LGBT and other loud folks
It's working? What metric are you going on (i'm asking seriously)? If it's based on the amount of women that are talking about mens issues then it's not working cause women don't actually care, It's a grift.
@@StupidityInANutshell We get our peace and quiet without them so it works. It will take a while until most have realized it, but thats like pain that registers only later it is much more severe usually but if we men get to live in peace the next 2k years it is worth it.
@@StupidityInANutshellmen are stopping working, economies are crashing. Men stopped dating, women are screaming even louder than normal about how they cant find good men. Those are the metrics im using.
@@StupidityInANutshellFor me its the MGTOWs. Focusing on one's self repeatedly results in said men being noticeably more relaxed with most problems immediately being gone. That and they consistently go on hikes for unspecified amounts of time. Which is better than unaliving themselves like how it normally goes for guys these days. People can say what they want about those men, but they ultimately figured out how to regain a will to live. Them being alive is the metric.
I wss at a job interview and the woman who was interviewing me said that they were really looking for woman. It made me feel like i was not really even given a chance. Like i am sorry i am not a woman.
I know a coworker and 2 friends who went through this nightmare, had to help clear one of their names but, it didn't seem to matter, the damage has been done. Work for me has changed massively because of nonsense like this.
@Wicked_Knight MeToo is one small event in a long chain of society falling apart. Feminists were pushing "believe all women" before it, they just got a nice propaganda coup for a while. Loss of gender roles, family, community and country all play a much greater part in this. Without gender roles, neither side can get what they want in a partner. Without family, there is no one to catch you when you run into problems (this is also a problem with dysfunctional families). Without community, there is no one to support your family when it has problems. Without a country, there is no one to support your community. Modernity wants to destroy all of these things.
2:30 Objectively, life is better than ever. We have... Food delivery to your door: $40 for a burger that keeps getting smaller and you can see through the patty. Oh wait, you don't have $40? Dating apps: $40 a month to be told no women want you and are going to yell at you for not being Elon. Oh wait, you don't have $40? Online shopping: $40 for shipping and handling for your $5 dropshipped fake that some porch pirate stole. Oh wait, you don't have $40?
@@jextra1313 Nah, it's not losing meaning from convenience. We just can't afford the meaning anymore. Feel free to till a farm plot with your bare hands instead of using tools if you think the convenience robs you of meaning.
@@nullpoint3346 "Funny, we can't afford the convenience," Look at where you are, nimrod. We should be talking like Humans but we have this magical thing called the internet
all of these things are mean to shorten things you dont care about so you can do things you do care about, but there is nothing to really care about and if you do find something worth caring about you are probably an ist or a phobe for caring about something
Deadass, I only got my job through nepotism. My boss is mom's best friend. Without that, my tism would've prevented me from getting pretty much any kind of job.
Yup. Nepotism, cronyism, being a sociopath, and random chance are the only things that can guarantee you a job, even a bottom of the barrel job. Skill, integrity, work ethic, none of that matters.
We're all being assaulted via nepotism from foreign groups being imported into our countries. You MUST engage in nepotism, do not ever believe it's a bad thing. Network as much as possible, make friends and create entire networks of your own with those people. Your children will thank you for it and your quality of life will markedly improve.
@@reaperanon979 . . . Did you somehow miss the autism part? What you are asking is nearly impossible and would drive him to eventual self deletion if he tried.
Yep, only have my current job through nepotism. Without it I would still be jobless. Have applied for 200-300 jobs in the past year (because this is actually a pretty shit bottom of the barrel job) and have only gotten 8 callbacks. Out of those 8 callbacks, I only got TWO interviews, both of which led to nowhere.
A lot of companies only advertise jobs for the tax breaks it gives them. They'll accept applications/resumes and do interviews with no intention whatsoever of hiring. So the demand is actually much lower than it looks on paper. Also you'll hear of the trades being under maned. It's only the customers of the trades saying this, not the tradesmen/companies themselves. They have been gatekeeping the trades for a long time. The less people in the trades, the more tradesmen can charge for their services, the pickier they can be with their jobs. So there are even less jobs than it seems.
I'm a nurse. I've worked my current job for nearly five years. We've been understaffed for more than four. The McDonald's I go to after work is understaffed with the staff heavily overworked. My therapist's office never has a receptionist, because they only have one who works part time. My coworker was having tech issues the other day - it took more than 3 hours for the calls to finish with nothing being fixed because there are so few real human employees and none of them can communicate with each other properly. I went to the ER not long ago. The amount of nurses in the hospital was laughable for the amount of patients they had. Yes. They post jobs specifically for the tax write-offs. But nearly everywhere I look, companies are understaffed with no intention of ever changing that because the fewer people to pay, the better. Why pay 10 employees when you can force one to do 10x the work?
I've heard this about the trades as well. They constantly go on about it being understaffed but there's a lot of stories of people going into it only to never be able to really find consistent work. I always just remind myself that there's no free lunch in life, if one area looks a lot better than another chances are in most cases you just haven't seen the full picture.
Slowly? I gave up in highschool and decided to get emotionally attached to my anime waifus and this stinky fox Vtuber and I think it's been pretty great.
Same here. I literally dropped out and became homeless for 3 years, unable to grapple with it. I came back from oblivion just to vent my anger and warp society with malicious aims. I let the hate take over. It was that or die.
5:00 there are booklets for government officials in europe and elsewhere to avoid showing comparison photo's of videos of before and after for architectures being replaced by modern buildings because it causes depression discontent and anger in the native populations.
Dumbest headline in this vid "without any fear for the future, boys have given up their ambition"... I'd say, it's the complete opposite, there's too much fear for the future, we need an outlook or at least a shimmer of hope for future stability to have any ambitions. And it looks bleak in that regard.
The catch is - nobody would show you that hope. It must come from within. Boys must realize it's about growing fangs and taking what they want themselves, just like all these minorities do, just like corporation do, just like foreign forces do Time of being a good boy is running out
I don't totally disagree with it though. You can't really be afraid if you're so hopeless that you can't feel emotions. You need something worthwhile to be afraid of losing it. I wouldn't say "given up their ambition" though. "Lost" would be more fitting. Also I wouldn't phrase it as though the lack of fear was causative. Rather I'd see it as a symptom of a problem instead of a problem itself.
Without any fear of the future I'm Italian, the country is 99% percent guaranteed to be in an economical crisis until 2050. Can't get a low income job because immigrants, can't get high income job because of my imaginary sickness (ADHD Aspergers, which Italy doesn't recognise as real), the media uses people like me as a scapegoat. What future?
They take away our "glorious purpose" then do stupid shit like say, men don't have hope for their future, when they pound it into everyone's mind that we are purposeless and unneeded. Like no wonder we have no drive. I mean shit, the purpose that drives me is only coming from my cats. Without them I'd be back in that hole, letting the intrusive thoughts flourish.
Uh, I’m pretty sure we’re giving up VERY quickly. It’s like we all-once realized how horrible the modern woman/dating scene is and universally said “F8CK it”
Doesn't mean we have to give up on other things. Let the pigs roll around in mud til they realize feminism was a mistake. The millenial women are already cooked. If gen z wants to go that way well like Pacino said in The Devil's Advocate "free will!... it is a bitch"
From minute 5, Moon is just talking shit. Hate that guy, insanely good topic to talk about: focuses on useless shit. I genuinely belive the guy sees everything that happened, knows his data, his point and then squitzoes out. My man did the homework right and screw the conclusions.
He is a normie. Only reason he even talked about the topic is because he sees it will do well with some algorithm. That grifter couldn't actually give 1 F about it, as evidenced by the greasy testosterone supplements he tried to sell in the middle.
Yeah, the biggest part is "too much online" and the culture that's been built. The economy well, that's a rather secondary issue i'd say, mostly because it could be an easy fix, but it's actually a hard one because you'd have to restructure the entire hiring and employee value methods, plus change the people's mindset on the whole idea of job prestige and get rid of the culture of pushing every single person to try and climb the ladder. Too much online tho, people just can't help but to find their own comfy bubble and ignore reality. Living fake lives, doomscrolling that only worsens their own issues, echo chambers radicalizing people into creating their own reality and finding purpose in life through activism, brainwashing, grooming and virtue signaling because we killed God and we have divided into tribes that can't see eye to eye, etc. Sorry for the rant.
@@rRekko nuh no worried brum. I basically left reality and just being online from the age of 13 bothering with others was annoying back then and now its just impossible for me to do
@ColdEmperor I believe there is a similar effect when it comes to nature. If you have some level of nature, you can see/visit, you are more likely to be happy.
@richardscathouse Woah there fella, you definitely want to have ownership of yourself, and limit that possibility from changing. Something like that would start to clear the air that property>privilege as the owner grants privileges at their will.
I mean, imagine working your ass off every single day of a week -(1 for a day off) Coming back home to nothing besides a cat, dog, bird, etc. pet you may have adopted, but mostly nothing, just an empty house, or an empty house with "possibly" pet noises (but even that's unlikely, due to inflation, cost of living being too f.cking expensive to support a healthy lifestyle while also looking after a pet which is a lot of effort and cost as well.) And you repeat this for years, no women(or men idk sexual orientation stuff) no dates, no love, no nothing, the 2-3 maybe 4 friends you've known since forever you occasionally hang out with, just to go home to engage in whatever hobby you "think" you enjoy, but in the end, you don't enjoy life, you don't enjoy anything. Why not give up? An anime line i saw once is a great description of this. "Why do you wish to die?" *Let's turn that question around. What point is there, to this thing we call living?* Call me edgy, insult me however you like, whatever, i do not have the time, patience or sanity to entertain your pathetic existence if anyone wishes to insult me so. But, as i said, at this point, no matter how much effort you put in, no matter what you do, you never end up getting what you want. Dumbass older boomers complaining to you about "EUHH I HAD A CAR AND HOUSE AT YOUR AGE" Oh yeah, back when you just sat on a patch of dirt and said "this is mine" built a house on it, and nobody called you out for it, in those ancient times? Or back when cars were so widespread, that the cars we call "Normal/Old" now back then were luxury but still costed less than the worst cars in existence currently? Ah, yeah, thanks. That helps. And the new generation addicted to technology, social media, awful trends, awful role models who will only grow up to be the same pieces of shits those said rolemodels are. Most men no matter how dumb or smart, realize that this generation is fucked, and there is no saving it. At this point, why bother, right?
a thing that i find especially tragic is that pet ownership is becoming harder and harder too i got two cats and one of them has been to the vet emergency calls several time hes on special diet cat food and that shit is expensive my situation may not be common but i wouldnt say its uncommon either plenty of people have to pay more pet expenses as their pet gets older or face the reality that they may have to put that cat soon if something goes wrong
@@ronik809 Yeah, it absolutely f.cking sucks, the sheer costs is the reason why i could not get a cat or a dog even though i really need some cat hugs right now. Or dog, doesn't matter, cute animal hugs. Ever since my old dog died i haven't really been able to focus on it- and now stuff is too expensive :(
Yeah, this... that is part that kills me slowly the most.... nothing brings me joy anymore.. tried therapy, tried medication self and doctor, tried staying in, tried going out... just... blah. I exist merely to exist at this point. Strive to get to the next day, then the next, then the next... I miss having a reason to live, but I honestly have no idea how to find that again as things are. It feels like... nothing is real, nothing matters, nothing changes.. even folks here saying what worked for them.. I am glad... but also, I tried those. I tried work, education, hobbies, friends, romance, writing, art and on and on and on.. all that seems reliable; my rent will go up faster than my wages and eventually I can look forward to the former exceeding the latter. I have no idea what might finally work for me... but I am fairly certain I will cease function before I find it. Maybe a bit of doom... but throw me a bone. Change my mind.
@tengr0057 Oh yeah, let me cut into my already slim funds, dig deeper into my depleted spirit and drag my already aching bones to the gym where some fit person can make a tiktok short because I dared to turn my dead eyes their direction. I'll get right on that. Thanks for the completely new, never ever thought of before utterly novel suggestion that appears only a hundred times in this thread alone.
There are a ton of "entry" level jobs that require too much for most people to even be considered as a hire. And it's typically stuff that you can learn to do really quickly and don't actually need any prior experience with. Hence why people with connections or who lie on their resumes get such jobs and aren't fired. I've never done it, but I totally understand lying on your resume when companies essentially lie on their job position requirements.
Hey Alana, I just wanted to piggyback off of a point that was made in the early portion of the video about making our cities and their buildings beautiful. It is not simply about the aesthetic. It is much deeper than that. How we build our towns and cities reflects on the collective societal psychology that builds these places. Our ancestors, even as recently as 70-80 years ago, understood this. The great cities of Europe like Venice, Prague, Florence, Vienna, and Rome that have maintained their historic city centers are all built around great Churches, Temples, universities, museums, and libraries. They are built around places that the societies of the time viewed as being of central importance. This has an effect on the people who live in those places. When you look at American cities, in particular, and ask what are they built around? What is the central focus of this city? Most American cities are built around financial districts, and their suburbs are all built in cookie cutter, copy-paste templates around conveniently spaced shopping centers. We, as a society, have placed the consumption of goods as our highest and most central value. This results in our viewing people as a good or commodity as well. All the rest of the issues discussed in this video essay flow from this central concept. Our society does not view people as co-conspirators or teammates in the great game and adventure that is life and creation. Instead, we are viewed simply as numbers on a spreadsheet.
As a man who tries to be strong and shoulder everyone's pain, I gave up long long ago from events that stemmed from military service.. But I still have to move forward for the sake of those around me. just a tool to the end.
You're not just a tool. You're valued by those around you. And you seem like a genuine guy. So that gives you extra points in my book. Don't say such things about yourself
A tool does no action with a wielder. You're a man, you choose to carry that weight and continue. The snakes in power can't trim their pubes with a tool to order around. Have some pride in that at least.
31:29 This is just facts. My family runs a very successful pool service in the south and the moment people hear I “just clean pools” for a living gives them the impression my job is nothing. lol
People should be thankful they're not swimming in old piss water and waste from previous swimmers. You're doing a greater service than anyone gives you credit for
Or even just standard fast food workers getting belittled by customers nonstop. Like buddy, why are you at the "peasants den" with how "above" you feel about the place?
@wrongthinker843 no-one would be working at that point. Every company would find any and all ways to remove people and replace with bots, AI, or just not need humans.
How to destroy the middle class in 1 easy step? Raise minimum wage. It has a knock on effect for everything and the "middle class" wages never rise to match it. It can be compouned by other factors, but that achieves the net goal the fastest.
The love of my life confessed to me that she cheated on me with her childhood crush. I loved her more than life and I forgave her. She ended up continually seeing him and it broke me every time but I couldn't give her up because I still wanted to get back to the happiest time of my life that I had with her. We ended up breaking up in the end. Not surprising. The whole thing broke me totally. Later I managed to find some closure by breaking down crying about it in the arms of my later girlfriend. She ended up cheating on me with her fat, broke dealer. I don't think I want to do relationships anymore.
Feel sorry for your story, but can't decide now... Is it such unfortunate life, or the outcome of being that kind of soft. Like breaking down in arms of another girls about your issue with previous one - sure, being strong aren't a guarantee, but still feels like you attracted such girl yourself, in order to seek comfort It's getting more like with disabled people, unfortunate that they are disabled, but deep down you know which people you would prefer to have in future - not disabled. Same with sad and depressed ones
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь That one happened years and quite a few relationships later. I had never really processed how fucked up the whole thing was before actually explaining the whole thing to someone. But it did help me to come to terms with the whole thing and how it wasn't actually my fault. It feels great to talk about your problems but don't tell painful shit to your girlfriends. They'll eventually use that shit against you. They don't actually want to know about your problems. Only makes you look weak and they hate that.
I don't smoke, i don't drink. I struggled to find a job. It took me 11 years to get help with my back. It took me 20 years and 6 suicides to get mental help. When i was raped, i was prosecuted. When i had a negative reaction to a medication prescribed to me, i was arrested. I don't do anything anymore. Why would i? I've never had a good day, why would i even try, when i put in the effort for over 20 years, and I'm 35? I'm done, and honestly? I'm back to thinking about dying again.
Please don't. There is something out there to keep going for. You just have to find it. This is another phase you're in. It's a long one, a really long one but it will pass. You've been strong through all that's happened to you so I'm positive you can be strong through this too. You will have a good day
@@JustCallMeBeeker You actually sound like one of those who benefits of this guy struggling, do you just skip his entire comment and only pick selfdestruct part? what good days?
More people should get comfortable with the fact you should keep living at your parents' home until you get promotions. In this economy, that's the smartest move.
@@azervakmonocasco4092 It really wasn't until the Boomers that people "moved out" of their parents home. Many countries had 3 or 4 generations of a family under the same roof. The economy being so good that one person could afford an entire house was an aberration that the Boomers got lucky with.
"What does ownership do for you?" Safety and security. I will never own my own house, and I hate it. I've looked into the housing market and the only ones potentially in my price range (with a loan I will actually be able to pay off) are literally ready to be demolished and halfway across the country. Anything within a reasonable distance costs so much that I wouldn't be able to pay off the loan for the rest of my life, assuming the bank would even approve the loan. (Which they wouldn't.)
Trust me, owning a house saves money till something's broken and you always gotta pay that bill. furthermore, you pay property tax regardless which means you don't own it. the state does.
@@aztekenen1 I'm well aware that houses are a lot of work and can be very expensive, it's just that I absolutely despise living in an apartment. My mom has gone through renting various houses for more than a decade and that's the worst of both worlds, so that's a no-go as well for me. The only benefit to renting a house over renting an apartment is that you might have slightly more privacy without neighbors literally wall-to-wall with you. Renting an apartment from a housing company might suck, but at least they are decent at maintaining the place. No such guarantees if you rent a house. At one point some years ago my mom lived in a house where the landlord considered the fact that they had to have a pump lowered into a hole drilled in the floor of the basement and pumping out water every 90 minutes to prevent flooding "acceptable" and not a drainage issue that the were legally obligated to fix. Another thought it was fine that their house was literally insulated with straw instead of rock wool, despite it getting cold as balls in winter. (Very old house, the straw was the original insulation.) Another (very old guy) told my mom and her husband that he'd vouch (act as security) for them with the bank if they wanted to take out a loan so they could buy the place they were renting from him. Then he got an offer from rich assholes from Stockholm who wanted it as a summer home and that was that. I'd take a shitty fixer-upper that I nominally own (taxes to the gov not withstanding) over staying in this fucking hamster cage the rest of my life, but even shitty fixer-uppers are out of my price range. All I can do is wait until my dad dies and me and my brother inherit his shitty fixer-upper of a house. (My dad's very handy, but he is also a procrastinator of legendary proportions. So the house has solar water heating panels on the roof that he installed but the toilet doesn't flush.)
Owning comes with its own problems, like regulations, neighbours and various costs sll year around. If you live in the home you own, you kinda screw yourself. Rent a nice flat, and rent out your house/flat, make sure you appear almost poor before the tax men and the tenant will pay the house/flat for you.
4:50 Whilst you may not realize it yourself immediately there is actually a plethora of historical examples and studies that have shown the physical appearance of buildings and your surroundings such as Brutalist architecture have a significant impact on peoples mental well being and is even still used by governments to oppress people to this day.
Hey, I always thought I'm the only one who has given up. We should do meetups where we wear blue tracking suits with the words "I have given up" on it.
I gave up on climbing the corporate ladder before I even got on it. Had a family tragedy 2 months before college graduation. Was wrecked mentally. By the time I recovered, I realized the world was fucked and I would rather just have a chill job, come home, play video games and make music. Maybe teach myself some other art form. As long as I can pay my bills that's all I care about right now. Can't afford to create and build a family anyway, so what's the point lmao.
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь "Russia is governed directly by the Lord (God). Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists." -Burkhard Christoph Graf von Münnich
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь moving to another country nowadays is not that easy lil bro, this isn't the 1900s anymore
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Alana, there was a style of architecture that was ONLY efficient and let out nay sort of artistry in the 70s if memory erves me right: It was abbandoned the first year a town like that was made because they didnt want to live like that. Believe it or not, aristry is very important in the brain chemicals, dont ask me why, i trully cant explain it
getting a job these days is not about what you know, but rather who you know. its very frustrating. i was jobless and homeless for 4 years. i couldn't even get a job flipping burgers. it took a friend of mine begging her boss to give me a job before i got the one i have now. been there 9 years now but it was so dehumanizing at the time.
People always were resources, no way you just learning it right now. Before it were cool to be a resource of a greater country, it's glory. Today, since it's individualism and consumerism now, of course it's depressing to be that expendable
@@denkerbosu3551 second thing I can't wrap my head around is American schools. I can imagine obvious reaction if I've come and attempt to change them into Russian schools "hey boy, we got A2 here just for that" And yet, aliens with American citizenship came and tarnished all that "glory". Of course patriotism would go down Peoples balls are like got snipped, simply because " Otherwise you would be like those foreign barbarians"... Yeah, with functioning schools, genders and families
I basically do the bare minimum. I don't expect to be rich or to be promoted, I'm just gonna do the barest minimum to survive. Eventually, the rich will suffer, so either they get robots or they won't have enough workers, and no one to buy their products because nobody can afford it. It probably won't be my problem anyway since my country is chill with almost everyone.
I've been wondering if we'll ever see an economy stall-out somewhere because wages in the bottom end of society cease to allow those people to participate in the economy. Example - In the US, FDR's (1933-45 US President) idea of the minimum wage was built with the idea of one person earning enough to have a house, a wife and some kids. A "Living Wage". Today you see people claiming minimum wage is meant for people to exist in poverty... while ignoring that wages above the minimum ALSO have the issue of people existing in poverty and struggling to get by. Some places have teachers working second jobs just to live... a respectable job that requires education doesn't pay enough to exist comfortably. What percentage of the population need to be non-economic participants in society before the pyramid collapses?
This is me. After a back injury I became addicted to pain medicine. During my withdrawals and mental health crisis my wife left me my step kids forgot me. I then withdrew from the world to take care of my mother who was bi polar in one house and my grandmother with dementia and her husband a stroke victim in another. After a year of extreme stress and lack of sleep my mother died of a heart attack then two days later my grandmother died. Now I’m broken and I can’t get going again. No friends and only distant family who barely know I exist. Now I’m just waiting do pass away but I don’t know how. I’m not sure why I’m writing this. No one cares
On top of all that my dog Hank died, but I do have my mom’s good boy Cooper. We look after each other. Thank you for replying to my post. I was feeling down yesterday.
I'm going to be 45 in a couple weeks. Single, exhausted, burned out, probably suffering from some level of depression. was let go from my job of almost 18yrs back in April. been looking for work ever since. I've applied to so many "open positions", been to a few interviews but always passed over. I've given up on romance, all I got were nasty looks, and generally ignored except for the scammers. . Giving up completely and finding some remote place to just wait to die sounds good sometimes. I keep going because it is all I can do.
0:52 i feel called out.. i am a millennial and i hate being an adult.. mainly cause of my constant depression and wishing nearly every moment of my day to be a kid again and relive a life where i did not have so many problems on my mind and haunted by past trauma's
Playing videogames: Rewards you with progress towards a goal. Challenges you. Gives you fulfilling adventure. Get the pricess Life: Belittles you, calls you a loser, demands everything, gives nothing. And the princess is in a different castle. I can see why a lot of men checks out. And instead of taking this seriously we continue to belittle them and call them losers.
Social security is bankrupt, hate to burst everyone's bubble, but I doubt any of us will be retiring. Might explain why our government is trying so hard to get us to self delete, or die in a proxy war. Live as far below your means as you can, get inexpensive hobbies, and ride out the storm till you can no longer be bothered. Best of luck all.
The summer before my senior year (2 years ago) I got work as a temp laborer for the Alabama DOT. I was in liter pick up, and I, my mother who was a high-ranking official, helped me apply. She assures me I got in with my own merit, but I know that without her, I wouldn't get the job. I was scared that my coworkers would hate me, but they were all really kind and helpful. We would work 10 hour shifts starting at the break of dawn in the sun all day on the side of a dangerous highway. I'm in college now, and while it's more comfortable, I feel like I was more fulfilled in that job. I wish people gave blue collars the respect they deserve.
Man now that I think about it I always hated yard work growing up, but sense moving into the college lifestyle, I have just been craving lawnmowing and preasurewashing.
I'm almost 40, alone, and not much hope. And it sucks, but I've kinda given up on a lot too, without any idea where things are gonna go. My dad and stepdad both died too young, grinding away their lives working to support their family, my mom worked so long at a job that never gave her a significant raise, it almost drove her crazy, and she had to retire. I refuse to play that failing game everyone seems to expect of me. And to make matters worse, AI will soon throw a wrench into the whole system, once it can out compete most human workers, they're not gonna hire people like me. We need a whole new economy, new ways to distribute resources, if there's any hope that we're going to fix this. Frankly, I just wish I could find someone who sees things as I do, so I don't have to feel so alone.
Hey man, growing up, I never thought I was gonna get a girlfriend and get married one day. I'm 24 now and I have a girlfriend for the first time, but after 2 years of dating, I think I can do better. Finding a good woman takes time king
Women get so offended by the notion that their roles are to take care of the home, their husbands, and their children, but don't bat an eye at the notion that a man's role is to put the safety and happiness of his family and country above his own by giving a third of his life away to some company, just to make money he doesn't get to keep, or to fight wars, or put himself in harm's way.
Well the main reason in terms of dating is that we can literally be accused of abuse form a girl in another state without proof in the other side of the US and be taken as guilty. Personally I do not date because I am terrified of being accused of being a creep or worst knowing I have no legal and social recourses, so the best way to avoid this is to just not try to date.
I don't want to fight anymore of these useless battles. I'm tired of being angry and blaming things on others. All I want is to love one woman and live in peace. If that's impossible, then I'll just fight for my own battles. Learn some skills. Improve myself. That's the only way forward.
well CEOs are rewarded to ruin peoples lives who work for them, what's the point in playing that game. its a fools game. like someone once said, the only play is not to play, French revolution II?
work for yourself... the french revolution was the rich vs the aristocracy... so i don't know what the point of that shit was, trading one elite for the other like any revolution... the only revolution that worked was the american revolution and that was a straight up fact. Try to live your life, if you are a american, that might sound kind of anoying but you literally live in normal mode... outside of the U.S or Europe is BAD, i live in brazil and here is hardcore mode, if i can make it here... you can do it in the U.S or Europe.
@@ArlindoBuriti kinda impossible to do normal in US when there... You know, western values. It's actually better to leave normal mode into hardmode and work for your goal there. What's the point of having nothing, have no family, but being in, not sure how, comfortable US?
criticize a child as an adult: get mocked by the rest of society criticize a adult as a child: you are immature and know nothing criticize a woman as a man: you are treated like scum and they do more of what you criticize them for criticize a man as a woman: he just disconnects after reaching his view of perfectly fixing the criticism and still gets criticized again
Lost 8yrs of my life to college. Grad school i was at decided they wanted to play school rather than be a school and lost so many students their accreditation was close to being revoked. Looked at their sister colleges, crunched the numbers and in the best case scenario I'd be close to half a mil in debt by graduation. Left and got a degree in a trade skill, can't get a job because every entry level position require 2-4yrs of experience out of school with multiple specializations required for a piss poor pay.
Honestly Alana your story about getting the job in retail sounds like dating for most men these days, at least with modern women. They got a list of canidates lined up and you are supposed to feel good that they picked you for the braindead position of paying for their bills while they tolerate your existence. Then they wonder why men are just like screw this I'm staying single! 41:17 You know what else would probably help immensely? If normal average women would get off their high horses chasing Chads who don't want to wife them would come back down to Earth and form relationships with average men, you know the actual men they deserve! But we aren't allowed to say that about women are we!
UK male, 30. I have a degree and 6+ years experience in my field. I've been unemployed for the last 3 months - applied to over 1,000 roles and had about 10+ interviews. I'm so confused, what the fuck is going on?
@@Kelvostrass 1. foreigners seeking entry to your country are shotgunning millions of fake resumes to those same employers OR 2. The job postings are fake for data harvesting
Its becoming abundantly clear that "the only winning move, is not to play"
@@northstar6920 It's a lose lose game. Bet on it and you stand to lose.
That's like a common saying around the MGTOW community, even back when some of the UA-cam channels were shadowbanned (they claim, I think). Oh man, MGTOW, that's a rabbit hole lol.
Are you crazy? There are A LOT of men still playing and they are happy that so many men are given up, it makes things way easier for them
Playing =/= winning
Shall we play a game?
"Men giving up. Women most affected."
-mainstream news, undoubtedly
Women are the primary victims of war.
They lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons.
-Hilary Clinton
@@axelmilan4292 that is literally what they’re saying
Millennial men gave up on dating 15 years ago and only now did their women notice.
I have a friend who I spoke to recently where he is at the age of 35. He has a decent job, a house, and yet he is unable to find any women because he couldn't find any decent women (as in good personality women). He has... Told me that, when his mother is gone, he will be following her footsteps soon. Hearing that hurts me a lot and I wish I can do more for a fellow man. The scary thing is, this situation may become my future. I am not in a relationship and I don't intend to due to my personality issues and financial circumstances dissuading me from pursuing a relationship. I have a measly livable wage, and a house loan. And when my mother is gone, I don't even know what to do after that.
@@williamlim5261 In a similar boat, though i have a sister that will still be here when my mother passes. The only thing keeping me from taking a similar fate is them.
We're treated like shit everywhere we turn. Nobody wants to treat us like people. We are wallets and labor, and that's all society wants from us. Men's mental health, the male loneliness epidemic, the huge difference in mortality rates in the workforce, the immensely unbalanced rate of victimhood in violent crimes, the male suicide rate- nobody gives a shit.
I've had one serious relationship. It ended 5 years ago. I was emotionally and psychologically abused, and nobody cared when I talked about it at time, and they cared even less afterwards. I was victimized by multiple people as a kid, and all I was ever told was how "lucky" I was to get laid, or how other people would've "jumped at the opportunity". When my family learned about my self harm issues, instead of getting me help, put me on complete social lockdown. No internet, no TV, no music, and every sharp object in the house was locked away, even though I did 90% of the cooking, so I had to be watched when I was doing so. Two years ago when I was almost killed by my roommate in a drunken fight, no charges were pressed, and it was never discussed again. Police refused to help, and I had to go back a few days later because I had a job and house to maintain.
The world doesn't care about men. Why should we care about the world?
Edit: I appreciate the kind words, folks. A lot of things are in the past, and I've moved on for the most part. I made this comment for people like myself who have been treated with apathy and scorn for nothing else but how they were born. You are allowed to be hurt by the things that happen to you. You're allowed to be human. People may disagree or be unwilling to admit their faults, but they don't matter. Their thoughts and opinions on your experience do. Not. Matter. Take care of yourselves, and take care of each other. We're all we have. Let's make the world better, for ourselves, and everyone around us, regardless of the backlash. Ask your friends how they're doing. If you see someone going through hard times, offer them an open ear, at least. I understand my final words of the original post are counter to what I say now, but we can only make things better if we have the empathy and motivation the rest of society doesn't. We can't fight hatred and ignorance with more hatred and ignorance. We need to be the change we want to see in the world, because at the end of the day, we are the only ones who care.
I'm so sorry. I hope your life is better, despite what's going on in the world right now. I hope there's peace where ever you are right now.
The world doesn't, but other men do. I've been working on rebuilding my male friendships. Women can kick sand all day, as far as I care. I know, at the very least, my boys have got my back. I'm not gonna let another one of those venomous harpies try to get her claws into me.
Men are disposable, sad but that's humanity
I don't know about the world, but You really should care about You.❤
@@DrizzleDrizzleNeverDies This.
Apes together strong.
"If you work for another 50 years, you too can have the faintest fragment of a life that you really want. You get a used up woman who will never love you, rent an apartment you can't afford, and raise kids that aren't yours. Wait why are you not working hard?"
Thats scary and the worst part is that what you just said is true
its depressing... what are you suppose to do?
Based
@@hotdog5927 I could say but after thinking for a sec i realized my comment would be flagged as terrorism speak or some such nonsense so rather than getting banned i will just say
Yea.
no wonder you think your life is miserable and you're the victim of this evil society if you use the term 'used up woman' whatever the fuck is that supposed to mean. this is actual retardation
“Dating is available to anyone at a single swipe.”
What an out of touch thing to say. Less than 1 of every 100 users ever get to go on a single date by using those apps. 90% of men get no matches and the rest use it for causal sex.
There is a point to it, in that "you have access to attempting to connect with more people than before", despite the very next step being the very limiter that leads to your point (Aka not getting matches on dating apps if you don't meet a specific standard/ getting into the algorythm).
Imagine seeing a grocery store in the distance. Technically, you have access to stand outside the door at any given moment, but it doesn't mean that you can just waltz in and buy things if the store is closed. Same kinda deal with dating today. You can go onto a app, and attempt to match with far more women than you would be able to attempt courting 50+ years ago (when you were limited to mostly your local community and maybe the big city if you had the means to get there), but that doesn't mean you WILL get matches.
and the best part is that the program deliberately gives you bad matches. if you get what you look for, you'll stop using it and the makers of the program make no more money off of you viewing its ads. so you never get the best matches, it always gives you bad results to make sure your relationship fails and you return back to the program and milk you for all the ad revenue they can.
@@user-kc2fu8iw3v how does that work? How does watching ads make them money? Do they have the servers attached to a money printer or something? I mean it doesn't make sense.
and that doesn't even include the disgusting amount of bot accounts, or accounts farming for OF/instagram fodder.
I tried dating sites. I got a message back in 2 years. I saw no point. Accounts closed down due to inactivity.
Can confirm. Gave up, no one cared. And it's not just the economy, it's everything. Everywhere I go or look I can't help but shake the feeling that I'm participating in a system that is propped up to benefit amoral sociopaths and any attempts to fix gets you branded as the bad man. It's the fact that it feels like having a conscience seems to be just unnecessary debuff in modern society and I honestly can't tell if I'm the sucker or not by trying to play by the rules instead of just taking what I want from everyone whenever I can.
I struggle to not give up every day, NGL. I came within an inch of self termination almost a decade ago and no one noticed.
And I live with family.
If I'm going to be seen as a bad guy for being a normal man, then I'm going to enjoy doing some bad guy things
Real.
The reality is you are a sucker if you have to rely and survive in a society. Only the fortunate, hard working and sociable people are able to 'succeed.'
If you are not going to play the game or subject yourself to the whims of your job then you are completely on your own.
America is slowly becoming a 3rd world country.
There's a saying "Most men die at 25, but just aren’t buried until they’re 75." Many of us often wander through life just existing but never truly living due to how depressed we are and that we often suffer in silence because we know most people dont give a shit.
Thaaaat rings horrifyingly true. It was about then that I started to feel like a Ghoul, shambling about and going through the motions.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 doesn't help that most men seem to inherently understand that we are disposable in the eyes of society. It's partially why we suffer in silence because not only do we understand painfully well no one would likely care but also because if we do open up we will likely be discarded or at least have it thrown back in our face at some point.
I died a few years ago and I'm not even 25 yet. I'm tired of life already, this "ain't it" as they say
@@laucorn123 This, sadly this SO MUCH!
I am in my 40s and I have sat back and watch, when they finally started asking, about 20 to 25 years of them asking, "What's wrong with men?" and the very moment we open our mouth we are pretty much told to shut up, we are lying, go to the gym and get a shower, etc, etc, etc. Hell The only time we are allowed to talk really is when they talk for us which is normally a woman talking for/about men, and a hand full of men that are doing darn well for themselves, WAY better than the average guy at best, then with said woman(s) they sit back talk and shame and insult the very men they asked, "Hey, what's the problem?"
It took me getting older in my late 20s and early 30s to realize what was going on, and yet now it's SO much worse that guys in their teens and 20s are seeing it, and if they are seeing it WAY earlier than I did, how the hell does that look someone like me trying to play then "You don't know what you are talking about" or the "You are too young for saying such things", NAH! That just shows me it has gotten SO MUCH WORSE!
Worse part is that I honestly can't even tell you if there is a fix. It's too many things upon things stacked on each other to be just one thing. Years ago I used to think that, "Okay there will be a "THING" that will happen and then they will realize both, "OH crap we do need them and maybe we where wrong", but fast forward to know and I feel like I read too many comic books to think like that because they REALLY don't care, like it come down to the "wire" and they would rather double and triple down in our final hours than even once care.
With stuff like this I could be totally wrong, and you know what? I WANT TO BE WRONG! *I want to be so wrong that wrong that they get it right!*
tried to like that twice.
That's my life right there
It's almost like the whole purpose of a Marriage is for a man and a woman to take care of one another.... WHO KNEW?
Ironic how not long ago it was popular to celebrate single mothers achievements... And now it is result of their self compensating brainwashing of their girls "don't take care of him, that's a bad deal"
In he legal papers is for a man to pay a woman to leave with him with no attachment from her part
South East Asia knew we even take care of the elderly we don't put them in elderly home
No, the purpose was to bind them together for the creation of family, ie kids.
definetly not, never was a reason and never will be
I dated a woman for several months. She ended up getting pregnant and so I stepped up, got her a car, got her an apartment, took her to the doctor. Everything I could. Later I found out the kid wasn’t mine. So yeah, I’ve checked out.
That's messed up, hope you're doing well
Some people don't know who they are when hard times happen. At least you know you're strong and not a coward.
@@AlkaRez thank you for that.
A man lie is like " i was at tony house" a woman lie is like " is your baby " - chris rock.
Cruel world.
Gotta love how paternity fraud isn't even punished meanwhile half the time the man is still forced to pay for child support even after proving that the kid isn't his... You signed the birth certificate thinking the kid was yours? Too bad because that counts as you adopting it so now it's your responsibility so pay up for the next 18 years or get thrown in jail. Even little boys who were taken advantage of by their teacher are forced to pay child support for a kid they couldn't even legally consent to when the teacher gets pregnant, that's just how little society cares about men... Her body, her choice, his responsibility.
"Why are men giving up?"
Because we get told we cant do anything. It's terrible to be a man nowadays. We're supposed to protect women. But if we do that we are told that we are being toxic.
We're supposed to bring home money. But we can never bring home enough. Every ounce of money goes out to pay for stuff we'll never own.
We're supposed to buy food. But to make anything worth eating is almost $200 for two days worth of food.
We can't afford to live. So of course we are checking out.
Based (chefs kiss)
My mom always says, “You must get your oxygen mask on yourself before you can give someone else theirs.” Now more than even do I truly understand what’s she saying.
And the only way to fix it is by letting men be men. Our society has become so feminized to point its falling apart and we're watching it happen in real time. Saving society is what will save men by giving them a purpose but society hates men and doesn't want to be saved and if we try to do it by force then we're the bad guys. It's really sad.
Women got their revenge and the lesbians are happy because they get more tail but the straight women are in an abusive relationship with the lesbians aching for the feel of a penis in their vagina instead of a soulless piece of plastic.
@@thegreycheshire5919 We have no more ownership…. Over anything really..
"You will own nothing and be happy."
We were warned, we were warned long ago and we didn't take heed - this is why we are where we're at now.
Long before that, when i noticed tensions starting rising again and I read how Americans are ready to show those ruskies what's up, I realized - countries are about to devour themselves, due to constant focus on foreign threat and ignoring internal threat
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь Bro, that's what a foreign threat (real or imagined, btw) is for. To take the populace's attention away from issues on the domestic front. Oldest trick in the book. We're being played. Again.
I'm not happy though you lying cunts now give me my shit back this is a breach of contract.
Really sucks for people that were to young to do anything and whose parents were too stupid to notice. (I fall into that category, unfortunately).
Its the leftleaning
*_New World Order_*
Alana I'll be totally honest here. I survived 18 years in prison after I beat my ex-wife's dope dealer into the hospital. She testified against me and took everything I had. I will not get in a relationship ever again. I don't even want to date. The only thing keeping me alive is my dog Bella. Once she passes I will be less than 2 weeks behind her. I just don't care anymore. I bowed out back in the 2010's and have made peace with myself. The sad thing is that maybe 2 people will ever miss me or even care. You are such a positive voice and I hope that you keep it up. You are a wonderful person.
Man, I'm sorry you had to endure such pain.
Can't even offer condolences or try to dissuade you from this path. Good luck man, not with the self termination but with whatever life throws at you.
Find a purpose for yourself.
My main goal was to get my own home.
I then turned it to writing books.
Then worked on leaving Massachusetts to find a better place to live.
Set yourself some goals that are not impossible.
In this economy your first goal listed here very much is impossible for normal people
@@Mistwolf1 That's my dogs name too
Every time I try to tell anyone that everything is stacked against the average person, especially men, they tell me to shut up, and to stop complaining because everything is not that bad.
I must admit, I am very curious as to what "that bad" feels like. And how many lives the bad will take.
Actually true, things are too good to be fixed right now. Change wouldn't come without a impressing number of victims
Humans have a tendency to adapt to harsh environnement
One day, the "that bad" will become the norm and the happy imbeciles will comfort themselves thinking "it can be worse"
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь nah, you see "it's not that bad" on a wide scale. Not from the perspective of the pillars of a working society: young, able bodied men.
The ones who say that are usually those who grew up in Easier than Easy mode boomer generation.
Honestly right now, the only hope is for you to get that blue book and hop on the plane, get a Filipina or a Thai woman.
@@denkerbosu3551 That's exactly what he said, though.
Things are still too good for the average person for the change required. A few missed meals, being afraid to go out in the street... Now THAT is enlightening.
My theory is that, people generally viewed "men" as being advantaged because most millionaires and billionaires are men. In reality, only a small % of men had the advantages that people assumed all men had. To compensate for the perceived advantages of men, women got lots of new advantages, affirmative actions, grants, all manner of different things to try and close the gap.
this means that right now the people who are most likely to succeed are men from rich families as they always have, and women. Meanwhile the average joe man has basically been abandoned.
That'll be the Apex Fallacy. Since wahmens are hypergamous, they only see those men that are 'above' them in social position/status, and men 'below' them are literally invisible. Hence, to them, _all men_ are super-privileged, since those are the only cohort they're capable of perceiving. You can see this in action when women proclaim how they don't need men at all - utterly oblivious to the millions of men who build and maintain the infrastructure which makes their comfortable, cosseted lives possible, and without whom they - we - would all perish. It's not even their fault, really, it's just their nature.
You're theory is correct, It's called the Apex Fallacy
@fredfredburger5150 :) I am genius
@@bobowon5450 What a big junius you have there.
it also further dooms the average guy, as a species, men paired down or on the same level, while women always paired up, or equal.
So now the new "equal pairing" is further pushing men down, while women perceive themself even higher than ever before
I also am a "function over form" kinda guy, but there's a limit for everything. Sure you don't need to live in beautiful looking buildings, but you also don't want to live in decaying gray concrete slabs of a building
Aesthetics are crucial.
This, plenty of study that say some greenery in the streets will lift people spirit alot and thry will become happier, also the reason i do not want to live in a city concrete hell hole
Beauty is an important fuction. It keeps people happy, keeps them sane. You want places to look homey not souless, you really do.
I recommend you check out a documentary by Sir Roger Scruton on beauty, it talks a lot about these topics. Form over function is actually a very fair position to take and I say that as an engineer. Beauty is crucial for health, which is why everything is being made ugly nowadays. Pure demoralization.
im also a function over form guy....helping out in an antiques shop so im holding on super hard not to yell ''who cares?'' 15 times a day when, for example, the 2 blinders in the window arent a prefect mirror image of each other
One big reason why immigration is pushed that much in first world countries: increasing the "workforce" aka people needing a job, to keep wages low and prices high (basic supply and demand). In germany we are told repeatedly in each and every newspaper, etc. "we need at least 300-400 thousand immigrants per year to stay competitive in a globalised market". The humanitarian stuff they tack on is just to make the idea more palatable to the public.
This
The workforce is an excuse, as well. The truth is that they want a fractured society because it's easier to control.
Depressing wages and increasing real estate values are true, but the overall costs of importing third-worlders outways in them in overall value. Every one imported is literally a drain on the whole system, talking in averages. That's just financial, it doesn't even figure the social disruption and strife they create.
"the tyrant loves the foreigner"
The line must go up!
Men are giving up entirely on society and life, women most affected
It never fails, women matter and men don't. What a time to be alive.
Good. I hope they are very affected.
This, but unironically
@@FreeStrugglesnuggles-g8t such has been the case for all of human existance. Men are the expendable part of the biological equation.
It makes sense once you remember, this society doesnt view men as people.
"We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us"
-someone in the Soviet Union
Except you got paid in the soviet union.
@@daredl807 uhm nah
"Soviet Union bad beep bop boop". My parents say somethings were better, somethings were worse in Soviet Union. People actually worked and made top notch products.
@@daredl807yeah, with Monopoly money that was worthless and shops were basically empty unless you were a part of the government.
@@johnjohnsky4845 Top notch. Like the power plant that exploded. The submarine that exploded. The aircraft carrier that...well actually, DIDN'T explode, probably because it was built in Ukraine before it was stolen. And then the other submarine that also exploded...when it had no live rounds in it. OR perhaps we're talking about their tank program, where their tank explodes so hard it sends its turret to low orbit.
People worked? I'll give you that, they worked until they died, which didn't take that long in the gulag.
It just feels like everyone is ignoring and denying the fact that young men are frustrated that the world and everyone around are using them as an emotional punching bag.
From blaming them about the toxicity of the internet to even state of the economy and politics. Young men are being used as a scapegoat by every single generation, race, religion, ideology, etc and they're tired from it all.
And when the problem IS brought up, they get yelled at harder like "WOMEN HAVE PROBLEMS TOO"! Basically completely shoving the issue aside like an total ass.
Dealing with people like that nonstop, no wonder these gentlemen don't give a damn. Why should they? They're rewarded with unhinged, unprovoked, total hatred. I'm no M so I don't like those "rewards" either. So I agree with the young men's approach 👍
"Wait, then they can determine prices!"
Careful now, you're starting to notice and they don't like you noticing
Growing up in Sweden. Back in the eighties my dad, who was a construction worker in his mid 20's, bought a newly built house in a safe quiet neighborhood. It was no problem for him to afford it. Everybody on this newly built street was working class. Noone of the moms had to work unless they wanted to. Every family had 2 cars,, 2-4 kids, yearly vacations away, and a comfortable life on one working class paycheck. Those times are never comming back and its sad.
They can come back.
The question is, are you willing to throw off the shackles of falsified history?
Don't get me started. I remember when I was like Teen/Mid Teen and I started planning stuff with so many hopes, dreams, and expectations. Planning things out like buying an apartment of my own, saving money for a Starter home (I hate these are gone now), and other plans and moves to make. From my Teens to my mid 20s I watch as the prices went insane from apartment to homes, collage prices went insane and the first group to start suffering life time debt and the whole darn near promise of having a job after leaving collage just totally stop. Speaking of jobs, I watched as jobs stop training you in places that where entry level suddenly change. At first requiring you to have so much collage credit, which pretty much felt like a way to gate keep certain people out, but when everyone and their mom had no problems going to collage, only to then move to the now needing to have 3-6 years experience on entry-level jobs. Now days with needing a bachelors or more added on to that for pay that is $12-14 hour/ salary at best.
I mean I could go on and on and on! Now days I sometimes sit back annoyed I wasn't older back then and could have gotten in on things before they started changing lol. I don't blame Gen Z for being upset at how things are, but man they have no idea what is was like being just old enough to WATCH as everything changed and being 3-5 years out of reach to do anything about it and seeing it end up as it is now. I'd rather have not know and learn about it and be upset than to watch it happen and be powerless to even make moves because you are 3-5 too young to make moves.
They can come back. You just have to ask you are will to break the system that's crushing all of the Western world.
@@wrongthinker843 ah i see....leftist activist here trying to imply that history is all false to justify writing a new one ....that will assurely includde a LOT of alphabet and black people.....
@wrongthinker843 of course everyone is willing to throw off the shackles. But if you do, there is nothing left.
What are you gonna do? Become homeless? Starve to death? The reward for breaking our shackles is heightened suffering.
"just focus on yourself" said every unhappy woman ever
Also make a secret different bank account just in case.
They take for granted to look out for themselves cuz they're taught by their single moms to ok that.
Men don't get that well advised in response, and that's the issue.
Then they're pikachu shocked to see men seeking this content online.
Interestingly, focusing on oneself yields much better results for men than women on average, due to psychological differences.
At least the woman forgot to bill you for her advice
"Apocalypse scenario 253, everyone just kinda give up one day." Also, "the truth is kid, the game was rigged from the start".
The thing about the second quote is, though, that you then proceed to crawl out of the grave, grab a gun and become a supreme ruler of Mojave.
FK-Class scenario
@@an2qzavok what in the goddamn?
@@user-kc2fu8iw3v It's Fallout: New Vegas quote, I believe.
Worked for the Mayans. Yeah the empire ended but the people are still around, basically one day went ya know what I’ll take the woods over being sacrificed.
I remember seeing an open job in Finland for a forestry machine driver, the requirements unironically was 40 years of experience and you had to understand and speak 4 languages on top of the native language.
I actually couldn't hold laughter back when i saw it
@@MrSam2497 they needed the most ebin and educated wood truck driver, to commune with nature spirits, vikings and druids.
Hey, what if you encounter a dragonling, a goblin, a nymph and a treant?
You need to pass the language skill checks, unless you can fight them... can you?
Clearly wanted not just the exact same guy that just retired but a better version that'll work for way less.
Then you didn't see that one asking for a 18 year old with a 5 year post degree diploma and 20 years of experiences.
@@Ehins It's more funny, when job asks for 10 year experience in something, that only appeared 5 years ago. Does someone have time machine to have 20 year of experience, while being only 18 years old?
Since you brought up trade jobs, there’s a huge issue with machining and a few other trades where old guys will literally die without having taught anyone, they hoard very important knowledge and then take it with them to the grave. On top of the nepotism of old guys only hiring old guys, it’s a massive black hole. God forbid you ask any of them a question.
This times a thousand probably another 10 years and things will be well and truly screwed.
Ive been a machinist over 10 years and can partially attest to that. Some are more than happy to teach while others are total hardasses. The other issue is lack of young people going in the trades
Never seen this, personally.
Unless the "apprentice" is an entitled whiner without a shred of respect for his seniors, of course.
I feel bad for yall
I've taught dozens of machinist over the last 20 years, most are still in the trade. I don't consider myself an old guy though(44)... I'm also not a teacher, I just run a machine.
Edit But you are 100% right in that knowledge is leaving the workplace without having been passed on. When I first started I was the young guy. I'm still the young guy...
I did run in to that with the machining aspect of things. I went through a 'fast track' course for basic machining that taught some CAD and whatnot, but most of it was manual rather that CNC. Going back to the machining side of things; the two places that I did wind up working, the one hired me in to finish a contract for them that lasted a month and a half, I was handed my pink slip by the shop boss, not even the owner who was the one who interviewed me, and told 'get out, good luck'. I was taught -nothing- by anyone there other than how to run the machine that I was on that already had a pre-loaded program.
The other place was something I did get via nepotism through my father and his connections; I started there and had a great teacher who helped me along the way, but the shop bosses didn't like that he was teaching me things, so he legit pushed me into a different shift and then let me fall flat on my face as I didn't have the experience necessary to run the machines to their standards without help. These machines were from the 1940's and were drip-fed from a 3.86 computer to "NC" programming through a relay cabinet the size of a large refrigerator...I didn't know how to fix it when it broke (which it did constantly), I tried learning, asking questions, etc...Nope; They wanted a full blown machinist and treated me like shit because I wasn't one, and then I made -one- mistake on a piece of 1 1/4" bar stock that we had -tons- of in stock and the mistake would be easily fixed, but naw...they shit-canned me. Finding out later through that mentor that I had that I was actually sabotaged because the shop lead didn't like me.
Fun stuff. Now I work retail...wishing I had a time machine to go back to when I was 19 and before injuries and such took their toll, and go in to plumbing, or masonry, or welding, HVAC, etc...
Men will crawl through broken glass for a purpose. Financial issues are such a tiny portion of why we have given up thats its almost irrelivent when discussing solutions. Women dont need men when the state does everything men once did. Unless you create a new incentive structure that benefits both men and women the problem will continue to get worse
Not only does the state do it.
It takes our money, gives it to women then tells women to work she we cant provide for them and we're the problem.
@@2mmDefeater Yeah you’re pretty much a road block to any woman’s goals or future nowadays
The catch is that you can't create such system to benefit both genders and keep it as free society
One of the gender would eventually learn that it's the scam and revolt
women still need men to pay the taxes that floats their lives though
@dotanuki3371 until they divorce 🍇 them, or get pushed through the ranks cuz DEI.
Society overall and the state's far kinder to Type Bs.
I think part of the reason men give up is because no matter path we take we still lose! Even entry level jobs have higher barriers of entry than they’ve ever had, if you can get a job it’s usually not enough to live on and you’re still expected to be a provider and make more money than your partner. If you have mental health issue and ask for help you’re ridiculed and if you don’t ask for help you are ridiculed for hiding or eating your emotions. The list just goes on even if we “win” we still lose
@@cjh8792 If all roads lead to death, your better off not walking.
Can still change the map, get massive debt that you'll never and a secure online/remote job, then use the blue book to hop on a plane as a runaway plan.
The Philippines is a good place to go to, or Thailand.
Cambodia is giga cheaper if you can learn the language.
There's also other South American countries if you can get past the language barrier to.
Men's life: damned if you do, damned if you don't.
@@tyranidswarmlord9722knock it off dude, all your repeating BS is sus as F...
@@zenoguy9218 OY VEY STOP THAT.
What's exactly the point of trying to get a good paying job as a guy when you are more than likely going to be skipped over because of DEI? I swear, they are trying to force men to join the Military, cause increasingly that's pretty much the only job that doesn't require a frikken masters degree on an "entry" level job.
I got my bachelors and was a temp for 4 years until they hired me... i wish I was joking.
They can try but we arent going to die for israel.
The military is as corrupt and against you as everything else. There is no safe haven for non DEI men
@@Eremiyah not quite.
a lot of young men from families that made up the backbone of the military aren't joining up because of the false promises and treatment of veterans with medical issues.
so the military is getting a bit desperate.
Well, they probably are. Enlistment among all the traditional bedrock military groups is way down and the top brass are panicking. If you want to know who the Military is desperate to get, check who's being featured in the recruitment ads.
7:35 "Unemployment has dropped..."
Unemployment is measured by how many people are receiving unemployment benefits. Those benefits are not permanent; they last maybe a year or so, and then you can't get them anymore. So yeah, when people aren't finding jobs, and they run out of unemployment benefits, the unemployment would go down, on paper. Low unemployment numbers does not equate to high employment rate. The same numbers would be shown for a country whose job market is nonexistent, and whose citizens can't find work, post-benefit expiration.
Here, unemployment only counts those seeking employment.
So if they are retired, stay-at-home, investors, doing informal work, full-time students... they don't count as unemployed.
But of course then they also don't count those who just gave up.
Wait really? I thought that it measured how many people who were technically in the workforce but are still looking.
What an awful way to define it.
Jobhobbers aren't counted for unemployment either because of the minimum two weeks requirement just to get started.
Glad someone brought up the dropoff making the economy look better than it actually is.
when I was growing up I was abused heavily by my alcoholic mother. No one cared. I was depressed and suic*dal by the time I was 8 years old. No one cared. I saw my father with a black eye when he took me to school more than once, no one cared. The abuse only stopped when my older brother got too big to smack around anymore and smacked my mother back. Young men learn very early in life that no one is coming to save them, because no one cares. Men are simply learning that there's no point in playing a game you were never expected or able to win to begin with.
Your brother is very lucky she didn't press charges. Mine would've.
The pattern I often see with violent women is that they are really good at acting this way while still fooling their victims into thinking that they have the moral high ground, which might be why they often get away with what they do.
They need to make sure that their victims are in a position where they wouldn't even think of fighting back or else, there goes their whole way of life.
Maybe violent men are the same way, I haven't met any in my experience.
@@fatalerror8943 My brother was only 16 at the time, legally still a minor (I think at least). All he'd have to say is that it was self-defence, my father and I would have backed him up, suddenly my mother would have been going down for "assault on a minor", then we'd simply tell the cops EVERYTHING she's ever done to us and she could have been looking at over a decade in prison. Probably longer. She had no leverage, my brother had simply had enough, he didn't care about any consequences. He did what he had to do.
@@fl1bble He was braver than I was. I felt like I was biting the hand that fed me. Even if I lashed out like that, I know my other family members would be too scared to back me up.
The time I stood up to mine, I was already damn near beaten down to a empty shell. I dropped out of college due to being too depressed to focus on my studies, depressed because I was still recovering from a breakup (I haven't gotten a new girlfriend to this day, it really messed me up), and I was stuck at my parents house with an entry level remote job being my only hope of escape.
She started belittling me for being a few minutes late to the first day (which my boss was 30 minutes late so he didn't know nor would he have cared that much) and all I did was laugh. I kept laughing and she got angrier. Knowing she can't do much to hurt me, she kept pounding on the table, throwing things around, screaming as loud as she could. It was hilarious and I kept making jokes like asking her what the table did to her. It felt so liberating.
She kicked me out of the home and my life has mostly been on an upward trend since. Her behavior since then still wasn't perfect but it was far better because she no longer has any leverage over me. Now, she only acts out when she is stressed and takes it out on everyone around her.
I feel bad for my father though. I cannot imagine living with someone who you have to constantly walk on eggshells around for the rest of your life. It sounds like misery.
sorry for the essay.
Slowly? I think we're quite fast here.
Any societal change appears slow to an individual.
@anthonywalker6268 true, true. This also means that any solution is hipelessly late for the men that already gave up to society.
The great reset is coming.
Im the only one that just exist to repay there mother and nothing else?
@@anthonywalker6268 To the unaware.
It depends on perspective. For example, in their long history, Portugal and Spain were once unified under the same court for 80 years. Doesn't sound like much but it was enough time for 2 or 3 generations to lead full lives* without knowing anything but a unified Iberian Kingdom.
*: keeping in mind the life expectancy of the era
I still can't believe the guy just shamelessly plugged a supplement in a serious video about men's issues.
You'll never see this in a video promoting a Type Bs' shelter.
Sounds about right.
Total grifter move plus you could tell he was kinda ‘blaming the victim.’
A good example of why you should always look at agreeable things with a critical eye. The video makes a lot of good points and exposes a real, serious problem, but then attributes it to a practically unrelated thing. Manly men with muscles, testosterone and chest-hair are broke and jobless too.
I think the transition was smooth, it was shitty sure... But I'm not at all surprised, that was the only end to that part about testosterone levels.
When society shits on us constantly for the last 20 - 30 years why should we still care? We got the skills to keep society running, we got all the abilities and we are the guys who kept it running for the longest part. Only to get shit on, only to not be seen and recognized by the other gender and society in general, so why should we still care? What logical reason is there to stay in the game only to get nowhere and be looked upon? It is a little like Einsteins quote: If you try the same thing over and over again and expect a different result then that is the definition of insanity. We are trying something different now and it seems to be working.
You saying that like you're not the reason why society shits on you. Like, why people with skills are supposed to be praised for their work and support, when they can't praise themselves? They get shy out by LGBT and other loud folks
It's working? What metric are you going on (i'm asking seriously)?
If it's based on the amount of women that are talking about mens issues then it's not working cause women don't actually care, It's a grift.
@@StupidityInANutshell We get our peace and quiet without them so it works. It will take a while until most have realized it, but thats like pain that registers only later it is much more severe usually but if we men get to live in peace the next 2k years it is worth it.
@@StupidityInANutshellmen are stopping working, economies are crashing.
Men stopped dating, women are screaming even louder than normal about how they cant find good men.
Those are the metrics im using.
@@StupidityInANutshellFor me its the MGTOWs. Focusing on one's self repeatedly results in said men being noticeably more relaxed with most problems immediately being gone.
That and they consistently go on hikes for unspecified amounts of time. Which is better than unaliving themselves like how it normally goes for guys these days.
People can say what they want about those men, but they ultimately figured out how to regain a will to live. Them being alive is the metric.
I wss at a job interview and the woman who was interviewing me said that they were really looking for woman.
It made me feel like i was not really even given a chance.
Like i am sorry i am not a woman.
Should have gone with the "I identify as a woman" card.
@@azervakmonocasco4092 i guess...
@@azervakmonocasco4092I would've 100% pulled that lmao.
so discrimination?
Wow, they are rarely this open about that.
Usually they tell you that they've moved on to other candidates.
Honestly working with woman can be terrible, worse than having to work in a team. Admittedly some men are like gossiping women.
F-ing teams....im not 5 yo anymore lemme do my thing without a single word all day
I blame the 'Me Too' movement being used/abused to screw over men who didn't actually do anything wrong…
Seen it 2 times and I don't work with many woman.
It's way bigger than me too, this is a war and wars are more than one battle. It's been happening for one hundred years.
I know a coworker and 2 friends who went through this nightmare, had to help clear one of their names but, it didn't seem to matter, the damage has been done. Work for me has changed massively because of nonsense like this.
@Wicked_Knight MeToo is one small event in a long chain of society falling apart. Feminists were pushing "believe all women" before it, they just got a nice propaganda coup for a while.
Loss of gender roles, family, community and country all play a much greater part in this. Without gender roles, neither side can get what they want in a partner. Without family, there is no one to catch you when you run into problems (this is also a problem with dysfunctional families). Without community, there is no one to support your family when it has problems. Without a country, there is no one to support your community.
Modernity wants to destroy all of these things.
There was no such movement in my country yet alls the same. Its not the Me Too movement, its everything.
2:30 Objectively, life is better than ever. We have...
Food delivery to your door: $40 for a burger that keeps getting smaller and you can see through the patty. Oh wait, you don't have $40?
Dating apps: $40 a month to be told no women want you and are going to yell at you for not being Elon. Oh wait, you don't have $40?
Online shopping: $40 for shipping and handling for your $5 dropshipped fake that some porch pirate stole. Oh wait, you don't have $40?
Life is losing meaning as convenience after convenience keeps us from living authentically human lives.
@@jextra1313 Nah, it's not losing meaning from convenience. We just can't afford the meaning anymore. Feel free to till a farm plot with your bare hands instead of using tools if you think the convenience robs you of meaning.
@@jextra1313 Funny, we can't afford the convenience, so how can it be affecting our lives?
@@nullpoint3346 "Funny, we can't afford the convenience," Look at where you are, nimrod. We should be talking like Humans but we have this magical thing called the internet
all of these things are mean to shorten things you dont care about so you can do things you do care about, but there is nothing to really care about and if you do find something worth caring about you are probably an ist or a phobe for caring about something
Deadass, I only got my job through nepotism. My boss is mom's best friend. Without that, my tism would've prevented me from getting pretty much any kind of job.
Yup. Nepotism, cronyism, being a sociopath, and random chance are the only things that can guarantee you a job, even a bottom of the barrel job. Skill, integrity, work ethic, none of that matters.
Ya know, with such honestly I can hardly blame you for choosing what you got. Good on you bud. Wish we were all that lucky.
We're all being assaulted via nepotism from foreign groups being imported into our countries. You MUST engage in nepotism, do not ever believe it's a bad thing. Network as much as possible, make friends and create entire networks of your own with those people. Your children will thank you for it and your quality of life will markedly improve.
@@reaperanon979 . . . Did you somehow miss the autism part? What you are asking is nearly impossible and would drive him to eventual self deletion if he tried.
Yep, only have my current job through nepotism. Without it I would still be jobless. Have applied for 200-300 jobs in the past year (because this is actually a pretty shit bottom of the barrel job) and have only gotten 8 callbacks. Out of those 8 callbacks, I only got TWO interviews, both of which led to nowhere.
A lot of companies only advertise jobs for the tax breaks it gives them. They'll accept applications/resumes and do interviews with no intention whatsoever of hiring. So the demand is actually much lower than it looks on paper. Also you'll hear of the trades being under maned. It's only the customers of the trades saying this, not the tradesmen/companies themselves. They have been gatekeeping the trades for a long time. The less people in the trades, the more tradesmen can charge for their services, the pickier they can be with their jobs. So there are even less jobs than it seems.
I'm a nurse. I've worked my current job for nearly five years. We've been understaffed for more than four. The McDonald's I go to after work is understaffed with the staff heavily overworked. My therapist's office never has a receptionist, because they only have one who works part time. My coworker was having tech issues the other day - it took more than 3 hours for the calls to finish with nothing being fixed because there are so few real human employees and none of them can communicate with each other properly. I went to the ER not long ago. The amount of nurses in the hospital was laughable for the amount of patients they had.
Yes. They post jobs specifically for the tax write-offs. But nearly everywhere I look, companies are understaffed with no intention of ever changing that because the fewer people to pay, the better. Why pay 10 employees when you can force one to do 10x the work?
@@Kyra-qn3nh understaffing is due to unionization
I've heard this about the trades as well. They constantly go on about it being understaffed but there's a lot of stories of people going into it only to never be able to really find consistent work. I always just remind myself that there's no free lunch in life, if one area looks a lot better than another chances are in most cases you just haven't seen the full picture.
Slowly? I gave up in highschool and decided to get emotionally attached to my anime waifus and this stinky fox Vtuber and I think it's been pretty great.
Same xD
why did you choose Filian?
Amen, thats pretty much me as well
Same here. I literally dropped out and became homeless for 3 years, unable to grapple with it. I came back from oblivion just to vent my anger and warp society with malicious aims. I let the hate take over. It was that or die.
5:00
there are booklets for government officials in europe and elsewhere to avoid showing comparison photo's of videos of before and after for architectures being replaced by modern buildings because it causes depression discontent and anger in the native populations.
Dumbest headline in this vid "without any fear for the future, boys have given up their ambition"... I'd say, it's the complete opposite, there's too much fear for the future, we need an outlook or at least a shimmer of hope for future stability to have any ambitions. And it looks bleak in that regard.
The catch is - nobody would show you that hope. It must come from within.
Boys must realize it's about growing fangs and taking what they want themselves, just like all these minorities do, just like corporation do, just like foreign forces do
Time of being a good boy is running out
I don't totally disagree with it though. You can't really be afraid if you're so hopeless that you can't feel emotions. You need something worthwhile to be afraid of losing it.
I wouldn't say "given up their ambition" though. "Lost" would be more fitting. Also I wouldn't phrase it as though the lack of fear was causative. Rather I'd see it as a symptom of a problem instead of a problem itself.
Without any fear of the future
I'm Italian, the country is 99% percent guaranteed to be in an economical crisis until 2050. Can't get a low income job because immigrants, can't get high income job because of my imaginary sickness (ADHD Aspergers, which Italy doesn't recognise as real), the media uses people like me as a scapegoat. What future?
With no hope, what is there to strive for?
They take away our "glorious purpose" then do stupid shit like say, men don't have hope for their future, when they pound it into everyone's mind that we are purposeless and unneeded. Like no wonder we have no drive. I mean shit, the purpose that drives me is only coming from my cats. Without them I'd be back in that hole, letting the intrusive thoughts flourish.
Uh, I’m pretty sure we’re giving up VERY quickly. It’s like we all-once realized how horrible the modern woman/dating scene is and universally said “F8CK it”
Doesn't mean we have to give up on other things. Let the pigs roll around in mud til they realize feminism was a mistake. The millenial women are already cooked. If gen z wants to go that way well like Pacino said in The Devil's Advocate "free will!... it is a bitch"
Lawsuit and police case so no
Ran through and masculine attitudes so no
Men need very little to push through. There's a reason countries with worse economies continue producing children.
Men have been deciding to not bother for over the last 20 years its just women are now effected so now people notice
From minute 5, Moon is just talking shit. Hate that guy, insanely good topic to talk about: focuses on useless shit. I genuinely belive the guy sees everything that happened, knows his data, his point and then squitzoes out. My man did the homework right and screw the conclusions.
A common trend tbh.
Agreed. He barely scratches the surface of the problem.
He is a normie. Only reason he even talked about the topic is because he sees it will do well with some algorithm. That grifter couldn't actually give 1 F about it, as evidenced by the greasy testosterone supplements he tried to sell in the middle.
If they give nothing worth fighting for, why bother fighting for them at all.
"the economey and too much online" ...well you summed up most of it right there
And only one side can have an open voice online without censored
Yeah, the biggest part is "too much online" and the culture that's been built. The economy well, that's a rather secondary issue i'd say, mostly because it could be an easy fix, but it's actually a hard one because you'd have to restructure the entire hiring and employee value methods, plus change the people's mindset on the whole idea of job prestige and get rid of the culture of pushing every single person to try and climb the ladder.
Too much online tho, people just can't help but to find their own comfy bubble and ignore reality. Living fake lives, doomscrolling that only worsens their own issues, echo chambers radicalizing people into creating their own reality and finding purpose in life through activism, brainwashing, grooming and virtue signaling because we killed God and we have divided into tribes that can't see eye to eye, etc. Sorry for the rant.
@@rRekko nuh no worried brum. I basically left reality and just being online from the age of 13 bothering with others was annoying back then and now its just impossible for me to do
5:13 it does matter. Your environment has an effect on your mental health. Being surrounded by bland, boring, ugly things is depressing.
Some people like the brutalist architecture style. I'd like it allot more if it was $800 a month or less for an apt with at least 2 parking spots
@ColdEmperor I believe there is a similar effect when it comes to nature. If you have some level of nature, you can see/visit, you are more likely to be happy.
@@thegreatbaguette1161 ew, mosquitoes.
Just let me work properly and go home to an environment of my choosing.
Bro that 97% of all jobs that we spend 8 hours there
An important part of demoralization.
12:30 the moment Alana discovers that the World Economic Forum open policy is "you will own nothing and you will be happy".
I don't need to own anything. I just want to live! 😢
@richardscathouse
Woah there fella, you definitely want to have ownership of yourself, and limit that possibility from changing. Something like that would start to clear the air that property>privilege as the owner grants privileges at their will.
@@richardscathouseif you don’t own anything you won’t be happy, private ownership is ESSENTIAL to prosperity
Ok, Dont be shock why we aren't spending anymore of our money then~ consumerism moves the economy
I mean, imagine working your ass off every single day of a week -(1 for a day off) Coming back home to nothing besides a cat, dog, bird, etc. pet you may have adopted, but mostly nothing, just an empty house, or an empty house with "possibly" pet noises (but even that's unlikely, due to inflation, cost of living being too f.cking expensive to support a healthy lifestyle while also looking after a pet which is a lot of effort and cost as well.) And you repeat this for years, no women(or men idk sexual orientation stuff) no dates, no love, no nothing, the 2-3 maybe 4 friends you've known since forever you occasionally hang out with, just to go home to engage in whatever hobby you "think" you enjoy, but in the end, you don't enjoy life, you don't enjoy anything.
Why not give up? An anime line i saw once is a great description of this.
"Why do you wish to die?" *Let's turn that question around. What point is there, to this thing we call living?* Call me edgy, insult me however you like, whatever, i do not have the time, patience or sanity to entertain your pathetic existence if anyone wishes to insult me so.
But, as i said, at this point, no matter how much effort you put in, no matter what you do, you never end up getting what you want.
Dumbass older boomers complaining to you about "EUHH I HAD A CAR AND HOUSE AT YOUR AGE" Oh yeah, back when you just sat on a patch of dirt and said "this is mine" built a house on it, and nobody called you out for it, in those ancient times? Or back when cars were so widespread, that the cars we call "Normal/Old" now back then were luxury but still costed less than the worst cars in existence currently? Ah, yeah, thanks. That helps. And the new generation addicted to technology, social media, awful trends, awful role models who will only grow up to be the same pieces of shits those said rolemodels are. Most men no matter how dumb or smart, realize that this generation is fucked, and there is no saving it. At this point, why bother, right?
a thing that i find especially tragic is that pet ownership is becoming harder and harder too
i got two cats and one of them has been to the vet emergency calls several time hes on special diet cat food and that shit is expensive
my situation may not be common but i wouldnt say its uncommon either plenty of people have to pay more pet expenses as their pet gets older or face the reality that they may have to put that cat soon if something goes wrong
@@ronik809 Yeah, it absolutely f.cking sucks, the sheer costs is the reason why i could not get a cat or a dog even though i really need some cat hugs right now. Or dog, doesn't matter, cute animal hugs. Ever since my old dog died i haven't really been able to focus on it- and now stuff is too expensive :(
Yeah, this... that is part that kills me slowly the most.... nothing brings me joy anymore.. tried therapy, tried medication self and doctor, tried staying in, tried going out... just... blah. I exist merely to exist at this point.
Strive to get to the next day, then the next, then the next... I miss having a reason to live, but I honestly have no idea how to find that again as things are. It feels like... nothing is real, nothing matters, nothing changes.. even folks here saying what worked for them.. I am glad... but also, I tried those. I tried work, education, hobbies, friends, romance, writing, art and on and on and on.. all that seems reliable; my rent will go up faster than my wages and eventually I can look forward to the former exceeding the latter.
I have no idea what might finally work for me... but I am fairly certain I will cease function before I find it. Maybe a bit of doom... but throw me a bone. Change my mind.
@@BlackClaws Lift heavy stone to make the sad noises go away. Go to the gym.
@tengr0057 Oh yeah, let me cut into my already slim funds, dig deeper into my depleted spirit and drag my already aching bones to the gym where some fit person can make a tiktok short because I dared to turn my dead eyes their direction. I'll get right on that.
Thanks for the completely new, never ever thought of before utterly novel suggestion that appears only a hundred times in this thread alone.
There are a ton of "entry" level jobs that require too much for most people to even be considered as a hire. And it's typically stuff that you can learn to do really quickly and don't actually need any prior experience with. Hence why people with connections or who lie on their resumes get such jobs and aren't fired. I've never done it, but I totally understand lying on your resume when companies essentially lie on their job position requirements.
Don't say it for real tho companies will do many things just to kill your good name and get away with scoot free
"I CARE" we know and this is why we love you smug.
Oh she cares, until she sees a solution that she wouldn't like. Then it's all "don't lower yourself to their level" or some false equivalency.
@@denkerbosu3551 wym? btw love your pfp
highly cringe
@@denkerbosu3551 Tale as old as time.
Hey Alana, I just wanted to piggyback off of a point that was made in the early portion of the video about making our cities and their buildings beautiful. It is not simply about the aesthetic. It is much deeper than that. How we build our towns and cities reflects on the collective societal psychology that builds these places. Our ancestors, even as recently as 70-80 years ago, understood this. The great cities of Europe like Venice, Prague, Florence, Vienna, and Rome that have maintained their historic city centers are all built around great Churches, Temples, universities, museums, and libraries. They are built around places that the societies of the time viewed as being of central importance. This has an effect on the people who live in those places. When you look at American cities, in particular, and ask what are they built around? What is the central focus of this city? Most American cities are built around financial districts, and their suburbs are all built in cookie cutter, copy-paste templates around conveniently spaced shopping centers. We, as a society, have placed the consumption of goods as our highest and most central value. This results in our viewing people as a good or commodity as well. All the rest of the issues discussed in this video essay flow from this central concept. Our society does not view people as co-conspirators or teammates in the great game and adventure that is life and creation. Instead, we are viewed simply as numbers on a spreadsheet.
Thing is, muricans used to be ok with that. So consumerism on its own wasn't the issue that made Type As to give up.
As a man who tries to be strong and shoulder everyone's pain, I gave up long long ago from events that stemmed from military service.. But I still have to move forward for the sake of those around me. just a tool to the end.
Rah, just remember you ain't trudging on alone brother
You're not just a tool. You're valued by those around you. And you seem like a genuine guy. So that gives you extra points in my book. Don't say such things about yourself
A tool does no action with a wielder. You're a man, you choose to carry that weight and continue. The snakes in power can't trim their pubes with a tool to order around. Have some pride in that at least.
Industrial society and it's future, every time, he was right
Uncle Ted?
@@wrongthinker843 my second favorite uncle
@@AhmedMohammed-mg3wz Who's the first?
I read the books and actually like the concept of "surrogate activities" and "power process". It summed up modern society problems.
God bless Uncle Ted.
31:29 This is just facts. My family runs a very successful pool service in the south and the moment people hear I “just clean pools” for a living gives them the impression my job is nothing. lol
People should be thankful they're not swimming in old piss water and waste from previous swimmers. You're doing a greater service than anyone gives you credit for
Or even just standard fast food workers getting belittled by customers nonstop. Like buddy, why are you at the "peasants den" with how "above" you feel about the place?
@@Spearra the declining attitudes of retail consumers
fun facts: did you know Alana actually doesnt sing papaya every time before watching a video :O such a surprise
What... no way... 😢
liar
I remember the piss days
I'm disappointed
Noooooo my immersion 😱
when you take, and give, away our role and erode our rights and insult us, we just grab the popcorn.
LOL in 1990 taco bell taco was 39 cents, box of 10 was $3.90, meanwhile min wage was $2.95/hr
Did most people work minwage back then?
@@luminous3558I mean not as many as of now
@wrongthinker843 no-one would be working at that point. Every company would find any and all ways to remove people and replace with bots, AI, or just not need humans.
How to destroy the middle class in 1 easy step?
Raise minimum wage.
It has a knock on effect for everything and the "middle class" wages never rise to match it. It can be compouned by other factors, but that achieves the net goal the fastest.
@@shawnm1902 and increase government spending
It's simple, if working 20-30 years make you owns nothing valuable under your name, what's the point working at all?
unemployment is down because that statistic only counts unemployed people actively looking for a job. people giving up = lower unemployment
The love of my life confessed to me that she cheated on me with her childhood crush. I loved her more than life and I forgave her. She ended up continually seeing him and it broke me every time but I couldn't give her up because I still wanted to get back to the happiest time of my life that I had with her. We ended up breaking up in the end. Not surprising. The whole thing broke me totally. Later I managed to find some closure by breaking down crying about it in the arms of my later girlfriend. She ended up cheating on me with her fat, broke dealer. I don't think I want to do relationships anymore.
I'm sorry man.
Feel sorry for your story, but can't decide now...
Is it such unfortunate life, or the outcome of being that kind of soft. Like breaking down in arms of another girls about your issue with previous one - sure, being strong aren't a guarantee, but still feels like you attracted such girl yourself, in order to seek comfort
It's getting more like with disabled people, unfortunate that they are disabled, but deep down you know which people you would prefer to have in future - not disabled. Same with sad and depressed ones
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь this. You can either love them, or understand them.
Emotions sound troublesome and makes me not want them. Im sorry to hear that happened to you man
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь That one happened years and quite a few relationships later. I had never really processed how fucked up the whole thing was before actually explaining the whole thing to someone. But it did help me to come to terms with the whole thing and how it wasn't actually my fault. It feels great to talk about your problems but don't tell painful shit to your girlfriends. They'll eventually use that shit against you. They don't actually want to know about your problems. Only makes you look weak and they hate that.
I don't smoke, i don't drink. I struggled to find a job. It took me 11 years to get help with my back. It took me 20 years and 6 suicides to get mental help. When i was raped, i was prosecuted. When i had a negative reaction to a medication prescribed to me, i was arrested. I don't do anything anymore. Why would i? I've never had a good day, why would i even try, when i put in the effort for over 20 years, and I'm 35? I'm done, and honestly? I'm back to thinking about dying again.
Sorry, did you mean suicide attempts, or did you get better?
Please don't. There is something out there to keep going for. You just have to find it. This is another phase you're in. It's a long one, a really long one but it will pass. You've been strong through all that's happened to you so I'm positive you can be strong through this too. You will have a good day
@@JustCallMeBeeker You are wrong.
@@JustCallMeBeeker You actually sound like one of those who benefits of this guy struggling, do you just skip his entire comment and only pick selfdestruct part? what good days?
@JustCallMeBeeker Nice meme
More people should get comfortable with the fact you should keep living at your parents' home until you get promotions. In this economy, that's the smartest move.
@@azervakmonocasco4092 It really wasn't until the Boomers that people "moved out" of their parents home.
Many countries had 3 or 4 generations of a family under the same roof.
The economy being so good that one person could afford an entire house was an aberration that the Boomers got lucky with.
@@Roggor thats your way to push the agenda i see....get outta here
I try but id rather be out on my own tbh
Literally what I'm doing.
Forget “hot singles in your arena” I’m looking for “good jobs in my area”
Fr those 304’s will just leech off you and make your life worse
"What does ownership do for you?"
Safety and security.
I will never own my own house, and I hate it. I've looked into the housing market and the only ones potentially in my price range (with a loan I will actually be able to pay off) are literally ready to be demolished and halfway across the country. Anything within a reasonable distance costs so much that I wouldn't be able to pay off the loan for the rest of my life, assuming the bank would even approve the loan. (Which they wouldn't.)
Trust me, owning a house saves money till something's broken and you always gotta pay that bill. furthermore, you pay property tax regardless which means you don't own it. the state does.
@@aztekenen1 Still better than renting.
@@DefaultFlame a fair argument. just warning that it's not 'all' roses
@@aztekenen1 I'm well aware that houses are a lot of work and can be very expensive, it's just that I absolutely despise living in an apartment.
My mom has gone through renting various houses for more than a decade and that's the worst of both worlds, so that's a no-go as well for me. The only benefit to renting a house over renting an apartment is that you might have slightly more privacy without neighbors literally wall-to-wall with you.
Renting an apartment from a housing company might suck, but at least they are decent at maintaining the place.
No such guarantees if you rent a house.
At one point some years ago my mom lived in a house where the landlord considered the fact that they had to have a pump lowered into a hole drilled in the floor of the basement and pumping out water every 90 minutes to prevent flooding "acceptable" and not a drainage issue that the were legally obligated to fix.
Another thought it was fine that their house was literally insulated with straw instead of rock wool, despite it getting cold as balls in winter. (Very old house, the straw was the original insulation.)
Another (very old guy) told my mom and her husband that he'd vouch (act as security) for them with the bank if they wanted to take out a loan so they could buy the place they were renting from him. Then he got an offer from rich assholes from Stockholm who wanted it as a summer home and that was that.
I'd take a shitty fixer-upper that I nominally own (taxes to the gov not withstanding) over staying in this fucking hamster cage the rest of my life, but even shitty fixer-uppers are out of my price range.
All I can do is wait until my dad dies and me and my brother inherit his shitty fixer-upper of a house.
(My dad's very handy, but he is also a procrastinator of legendary proportions. So the house has solar water heating panels on the roof that he installed but the toilet doesn't flush.)
Owning comes with its own problems, like regulations, neighbours and various costs sll year around. If you live in the home you own, you kinda screw yourself. Rent a nice flat, and rent out your house/flat, make sure you appear almost poor before the tax men and the tenant will pay the house/flat for you.
"I am the milk man, my milk is delicious"
😏
"A woman's purpose is being a breeding cow." - SmugAlana 2024
I prefer to think of it as "The superpower of women is being a mother."
And yes, I know Alana was generally being funny.
Based
Based af
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I need that on a t-shirt
4:50 Whilst you may not realize it yourself immediately there is actually a plethora of historical examples and studies that have shown the physical appearance of buildings and your surroundings such as Brutalist architecture have a significant impact on peoples mental well being and is even still used by governments to oppress people to this day.
0:20 no, you Tomboy
No, she has a working brain and not a sheep.
Hey, I always thought I'm the only one who has given up.
We should do meetups where we wear blue tracking suits with the words "I have given up" on it.
@@greyman1104 That would be 1 massive meet-up my friend.
@@Calibur707 We could try to break the guinness world record for biggest group of people simultaneously sitting on a couch!
@@greyman1104 Sign me up.
I don’t think anyone would meet up because we all gave up so what’s the point in going to an event like that when we could have a group chat
I ain't watching this , im already miserable enough, don't need to know its not just me but all my fellas out there are dealing with this shit
I gave up on climbing the corporate ladder before I even got on it. Had a family tragedy 2 months before college graduation. Was wrecked mentally. By the time I recovered, I realized the world was fucked and I would rather just have a chill job, come home, play video games and make music. Maybe teach myself some other art form. As long as I can pay my bills that's all I care about right now.
Can't afford to create and build a family anyway, so what's the point lmao.
Why not just do "average immigrant into US" ark, but into another country?
World is f-ed? You sure? May I propose Russia for example?
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь Russia is at war :)
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь "Russia is governed directly by the Lord (God). Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists." -Burkhard Christoph Graf von Münnich
Other countries actually enfore their immigration laws lmao@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь moving to another country nowadays is not that easy lil bro, this isn't the 1900s anymore
Alana, there was a style of architecture that was ONLY efficient and let out nay sort of artistry in the 70s if memory erves me right: It was abbandoned the first year a town like that was made because they didnt want to live like that. Believe it or not, aristry is very important in the brain chemicals, dont ask me why, i trully cant explain it
I heard a quote; In regards to dating either be single or be evil.
And i dont care that im giving up. I will live for my mother cause she did so much for me and then i will ended
getting a job these days is not about what you know, but rather who you know. its very frustrating. i was jobless and homeless for 4 years. i couldn't even get a job flipping burgers. it took a friend of mine begging her boss to give me a job before i got the one i have now. been there 9 years now but it was so dehumanizing at the time.
When even the video talking about men suffering trying to monitize on it... being a person these days feels like being a resource
Sadly, we humans became our own cattle.
People always were resources, no way you just learning it right now.
Before it were cool to be a resource of a greater country, it's glory.
Today, since it's individualism and consumerism now, of course it's depressing to be that expendable
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь this. Rome and all that
What do you think HR stands for?
@@denkerbosu3551 second thing I can't wrap my head around is American schools. I can imagine obvious reaction if I've come and attempt to change them into Russian schools "hey boy, we got A2 here just for that"
And yet, aliens with American citizenship came and tarnished all that "glory". Of course patriotism would go down
Peoples balls are like got snipped, simply because " Otherwise you would be like those foreign barbarians"... Yeah, with functioning schools, genders and families
I basically do the bare minimum. I don't expect to be rich or to be promoted, I'm just gonna do the barest minimum to survive. Eventually, the rich will suffer, so either they get robots or they won't have enough workers, and no one to buy their products because nobody can afford it.
It probably won't be my problem anyway since my country is chill with almost everyone.
I've been wondering if we'll ever see an economy stall-out somewhere because wages in the bottom end of society cease to allow those people to participate in the economy. Example - In the US, FDR's (1933-45 US President) idea of the minimum wage was built with the idea of one person earning enough to have a house, a wife and some kids. A "Living Wage".
Today you see people claiming minimum wage is meant for people to exist in poverty... while ignoring that wages above the minimum ALSO have the issue of people existing in poverty and struggling to get by. Some places have teachers working second jobs just to live... a respectable job that requires education doesn't pay enough to exist comfortably.
What percentage of the population need to be non-economic participants in society before the pyramid collapses?
This is me. After a back injury I became addicted to pain medicine. During my withdrawals and mental health crisis my wife left me my step kids forgot me. I then withdrew from the world to take care of my mother who was bi polar in one house and my grandmother with dementia and her husband a stroke victim in another. After a year of extreme stress and lack of sleep my mother died of a heart attack then two days later my grandmother died. Now I’m broken and I can’t get going again. No friends and only distant family who barely know I exist. Now I’m just waiting do pass away but I don’t know how. I’m not sure why I’m writing this. No one cares
Nobody can say you weren't there for those who relied on you, that IS NOT nothing. Best of luck in the future, failing that, in the next life.
On top of all that my dog Hank died, but I do have my mom’s good boy Cooper. We look after each other. Thank you for replying to my post. I was feeling down yesterday.
I'm going to be 45 in a couple weeks. Single, exhausted, burned out, probably suffering from some level of depression. was let go from my job of almost 18yrs back in April. been looking for work ever since. I've applied to so many "open positions", been to a few interviews but always passed over. I've given up on romance, all I got were nasty looks, and generally ignored except for the scammers. . Giving up completely and finding some remote place to just wait to die sounds good sometimes. I keep going because it is all I can do.
"You will own nothing, sit in the pod, eat the bugs, and be happy"
Cyberpunk company levels of control
0:52 i feel called out.. i am a millennial and i hate being an adult.. mainly cause of my constant depression and wishing nearly every moment of my day to be a kid again and relive a life where i did not have so many problems on my mind and haunted by past trauma's
@@Ramon609 Stand up, take a deep breath, say "it is what it is" and start with the difficult task that's stressing you out 🫂
Playing videogames: Rewards you with progress towards a goal. Challenges you. Gives you fulfilling adventure. Get the pricess
Life: Belittles you, calls you a loser, demands everything, gives nothing. And the princess is in a different castle.
I can see why a lot of men checks out. And instead of taking this seriously we continue to belittle them and call them losers.
Life is videogame with best possible graphics, but most shitty gameplay.
"yeah, 54 is still a working age"... my retirement age is 70
Hope that till we reach the age 54 the retirement age is still 70
Can't wait until retirement age is above average life expectancy.
sad I don't even work at age 36
Peasants don't retire, lords retire. Know your place
Social security is bankrupt, hate to burst everyone's bubble, but I doubt any of us will be retiring. Might explain why our government is trying so hard to get us to self delete, or die in a proxy war. Live as far below your means as you can, get inexpensive hobbies, and ride out the storm till you can no longer be bothered. Best of luck all.
You can also be under employed and still give up.
I’m tired boss is how I feel about the economy right now
The summer before my senior year (2 years ago) I got work as a temp laborer for the Alabama DOT. I was in liter pick up, and I, my mother who was a high-ranking official, helped me apply. She assures me I got in with my own merit, but I know that without her, I wouldn't get the job. I was scared that my coworkers would hate me, but they were all really kind and helpful. We would work 10 hour shifts starting at the break of dawn in the sun all day on the side of a dangerous highway. I'm in college now, and while it's more comfortable, I feel like I was more fulfilled in that job. I wish people gave blue collars the respect they deserve.
Man now that I think about it I always hated yard work growing up, but sense moving into the college lifestyle, I have just been craving lawnmowing and preasurewashing.
I'm almost 40, alone, and not much hope. And it sucks, but I've kinda given up on a lot too, without any idea where things are gonna go. My dad and stepdad both died too young, grinding away their lives working to support their family, my mom worked so long at a job that never gave her a significant raise, it almost drove her crazy, and she had to retire. I refuse to play that failing game everyone seems to expect of me. And to make matters worse, AI will soon throw a wrench into the whole system, once it can out compete most human workers, they're not gonna hire people like me. We need a whole new economy, new ways to distribute resources, if there's any hope that we're going to fix this. Frankly, I just wish I could find someone who sees things as I do, so I don't have to feel so alone.
Hey man, growing up, I never thought I was gonna get a girlfriend and get married one day. I'm 24 now and I have a girlfriend for the first time, but after 2 years of dating, I think I can do better. Finding a good woman takes time king
Women get so offended by the notion that their roles are to take care of the home, their husbands, and their children, but don't bat an eye at the notion that a man's role is to put the safety and happiness of his family and country above his own by giving a third of his life away to some company, just to make money he doesn't get to keep, or to fight wars, or put himself in harm's way.
The bears are angry that the bees have stopped making honey
Well the main reason in terms of dating is that we can literally be accused of abuse form a girl in another state without proof in the other side of the US and be taken as guilty.
Personally I do not date because I am terrified of being accused of being a creep or worst knowing I have no legal and social recourses, so the best way to avoid this is to just not try to date.
Imagine being able to afford groceries
You can afford groceries if you skip paying rent, you'd have to sleep on the streets though
I don't want to fight anymore of these useless battles. I'm tired of being angry and blaming things on others. All I want is to love one woman and live in peace. If that's impossible, then I'll just fight for my own battles. Learn some skills. Improve myself. That's the only way forward.
well CEOs are rewarded to ruin peoples lives who work for them, what's the point in playing that game. its a fools game. like someone once said, the only play is not to play, French revolution II?
work for yourself... the french revolution was the rich vs the aristocracy... so i don't know what the point of that shit was, trading one elite for the other like any revolution... the only revolution that worked was the american revolution and that was a straight up fact.
Try to live your life, if you are a american, that might sound kind of anoying but you literally live in normal mode... outside of the U.S or Europe is BAD, i live in brazil and here is hardcore mode, if i can make it here... you can do it in the U.S or Europe.
@@ArlindoBuriti BOOTSTRAP HARDER BRO!
@@ArlindoBuriti kinda impossible to do normal in US when there... You know, western values.
It's actually better to leave normal mode into hardmode and work for your goal there.
What's the point of having nothing, have no family, but being in, not sure how, comfortable US?
@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь this, again. Reminder that countries with worse economies still produce more children. Men need very little to keep going
@@ArlindoBuriti like the russian revolution
criticize a child as an adult: get mocked by the rest of society
criticize a adult as a child: you are immature and know nothing
criticize a woman as a man: you are treated like scum and they do more of what you criticize them for
criticize a man as a woman: he just disconnects after reaching his view of perfectly fixing the criticism and still gets criticized again
the art of miscommunication
Lost 8yrs of my life to college. Grad school i was at decided they wanted to play school rather than be a school and lost so many students their accreditation was close to being revoked. Looked at their sister colleges, crunched the numbers and in the best case scenario I'd be close to half a mil in debt by graduation. Left and got a degree in a trade skill, can't get a job because every entry level position require 2-4yrs of experience out of school with multiple specializations required for a piss poor pay.
Honestly Alana your story about getting the job in retail sounds like dating for most men these days, at least with modern women.
They got a list of canidates lined up and you are supposed to feel good that they picked you for the braindead position of paying for their bills while they tolerate your existence. Then they wonder why men are just like screw this I'm staying single!
41:17 You know what else would probably help immensely? If normal average women would get off their high horses chasing Chads who don't want to wife them would come back down to Earth and form relationships with average men, you know the actual men they deserve! But we aren't allowed to say that about women are we!
if world was that reasonable and sensible, we would not have needed laws and punishments.
UK male, 30. I have a degree and 6+ years experience in my field. I've been unemployed for the last 3 months - applied to over 1,000 roles and had about 10+ interviews. I'm so confused, what the fuck is going on?
@@Kelvostrass 1. foreigners seeking entry to your country are shotgunning millions of fake resumes to those same employers
OR
2. The job postings are fake for data harvesting
No idea really but maaaybe employers use auto rejection systems which find some "inappropriate" stuff in your resume and they don't even look at you.
Society doesn't need to be this way, things could be amazing if people weren't so greedy
i hate to tell you but the people yelling gimmie gimmie will rob you of everything to the point you cant eat
Nah, greed is what makes society go forward.
stick with your morals and live your life.
@@ArlindoBuriti except it doesn't. Because society is failing, due to that mentality.
@@celuler22 greed isn't exclusive to any group, rich/poor/socialist/capitalist are all capable of greed friend
Greed is just a fact of life.