If Colin Cowherd wants to say that the Patriots were within 6 inches of 6 Super Bowl wins, he should also say they were a few inches from 0 Super Bowl wins. He said "when you beat 'em you barely beat 'em." Well, when they win, they barely won. They didn't really dominate anybody in their wins either. I think the 4 they got is a fair number, to say they could have had 6, well they could have had 0, 2, or 3 as well.
Mike Frederick Um...football isn't gymnastics you win by scoring points more than ur opponents so that's why the Pats win Super Bowls. They do just enough to win and that's all u need; Giants also won two Super Bowls that could be considered fluky by a combined 7 points but people give them so much credit. Why? Eli has won ZERO playoff games outside of those two Super Bowl seasons and has MISSED THE PLAYOFFS SIX TIMES. Brady only three one and done seasons and 1 missed playoff season.
Mario Manningham caught that ball on a 1st and 10 during the Superbowl. If he would've dropped it, there were 3 other downs for the Giants to make a play. David Tyree? That was a 3rd and 5. If Tyree drops it, it's not hard to imagine the Giants converting on 4th and 5. Both were great plays, but people take away too much credit from the Giants for those wins. As for this video, I think you're spot on with the Pats. They always find very creative loopholes/strategic measures for many situations. One of my favorite of theirs is whenever the Patriots force a turnover, the offense rushes on to the field, quicksnaps the ball, and Brady bombs it to the end zone. Sure enough, they score most of the time doing this. And it absolutely shatters any momentum the opposing team had.
I agree with you on the Manningham point but you have to also consider the yardage gained by that David Tyree Catch. I don't imagine that on 4th and 5 they go for a 32 yard prayer that gets them just outside of comfortable field goal range, and without that sudden cushion in play time the offense is put in much more of a disadvantage. Again, I am mostly speaking on hypotheticals but that catch was a huge game changer.
Slutha Slutha Problem is Manning uncharacteristically scrambled from a 10 yard sack that would have made it 4th and 15 deep in thier own territory so your defense of the Tyree catch is pretty flawed.
Speaking of 6 inches and 6 rings... after Eli I & II .. a guy Named Curse/Kearse makes the immaculate conception look like a walk in the park... and only Malcolm Butler (a guy who was new and too niave to know about curses) could have intercepted that ball.. The rest of the Patriots went catatonic Namaste
As far as this instance with the radio is concerned I fell as though the Patriots are innocent. Just as stated at the beginning of the video, everyone was watching them, and New England a lot of things but dumb isn't one of them so I don't think they'd attempt something like that during a meaning less preseason game because the consequences of being caught greatly outweigh the benefits of not.
This might sound like it's a bad thing, but the NFL fans will always get a great Superbowl when the patriots are in, win or lose. I'm a pats fan, and i want them to obviously win, but at the end of the day i just want a Superbowl to remember, not a blowout!
OMG tomlim always has an excuse like wow first it was antonio brown facebook video then steelers caught the flu tomlin is not a coach more like a cheerleader like he doesnt doesnt do defense play calls or offense hes a cheerleader
I don't want to make excuses for the Steelers on that game because their secondary just wasn't good enough that day but During the problem with the radio The Patriots all of a sudden go into a no huddle offense and march down field against an opponent that can't rally it's defense. To me that is cheating. In computer game terms it's called 'exploiting a bug for your gain' and in online games it's classed as cheating and is a bannable offence. The Steelers didn't lose that game because of the radio issues in any case. They lost it because on (I think) 2 seperate occasions they got a 1st and goal on the Patriot 1 yard line and only scored 3 points from it. Not good enough. Good thing we bounced back agaisnt the 49'ers though.
***** At what point in my above statement did I say that the radio problems were the fault of the Patriots? The Patriots were informed of the problem as soon as it occurred and they took advantage of it so think next time before you go calling people idiots.
+Josh R I'm not making accusations I'm commenting based on an observation I made. If you could see past your fanboy tinted glasses you would see that. I don't hate New England, I just said that they took advantage of a situation and exploited a technical fault during the game. It's not cheating cause it can't be proven.
+Josh R I'm a pats fan and he has a point (I know I'm late) Brady goes into a lot of no huddles when the defense is bending.. before that drive when gronk got open they were huddling and Brady was looking at the sideline. the minute the radios went out they started the no huddle... I'm not saying NE was responsible for the radios but once it happened they knew about it and took advantage
+Neo How does the tuck rule take away one superbowl win? A rule is a rule and that play rightly stood as it should. And then I agree, Seahawks run at the 1 yard line and in the 3 attempts they had they were probably going to get it in and win, but the Seahawks lost themselves that game, not the Patriots. You could swing it the other way and say the Patriots are 6 inches from 6 superbowls
What about the fact that Vinateri kicked an impossible field goal? Or the fact that Jermaine Kearse had a LUCKY catch that got Seattle to the 1-yard line? Or hey, let me take it a step further. What about that lucky ass David Tyree Catch? Or Asante Samuel's dropped INT? Or Wes Welker's dropped catch? You say without those two things Brady only has 2 super bowls, I say that without those things I named, Brady is 6-0 in Super Bowls. That's the beauty of the what if game.
Brady without any superbowls is better than anyone in history. The most decorated QB in history. Highest winning pct. Most post season tds, passing yards, etc.
Belichick n Brady are the Pop n Duncan of football...
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they surfaced around the same time lol maybe they are in on it together
except more dominant...
@@Johanson1129 Also, both Belichick and Popovich are Croatian, in their 60s, and have a military background...
I don't think coaching makes Gronk make those catches. I don't think coaching makes Gronk drag 5 guys down the field. I could be wrong
Yea, you're wrong
If Colin Cowherd wants to say that the Patriots were within 6 inches of 6 Super Bowl wins, he should also say they were a few inches from 0 Super Bowl wins. He said "when you beat 'em you barely beat 'em." Well, when they win, they barely won. They didn't really dominate anybody in their wins either. I think the 4 they got is a fair number, to say they could have had 6, well they could have had 0, 2, or 3 as well.
Mike Frederick Um...football isn't gymnastics you win by scoring points more than ur opponents so that's why the Pats win Super Bowls. They do just enough to win and that's all u need; Giants also won two Super Bowls that could be considered fluky by a combined 7 points but people give them so much credit. Why? Eli has won ZERO playoff games outside of those two Super Bowl seasons and has MISSED THE PLAYOFFS SIX TIMES. Brady only three one and done seasons and 1 missed playoff season.
Damn. Seven years and I'm just now hearing about this? Wow.
Mario Manningham caught that ball on a 1st and 10 during the Superbowl. If he would've dropped it, there were 3 other downs for the Giants to make a play. David Tyree? That was a 3rd and 5. If Tyree drops it, it's not hard to imagine the Giants converting on 4th and 5. Both were great plays, but people take away too much credit from the Giants for those wins.
As for this video, I think you're spot on with the Pats. They always find very creative loopholes/strategic measures for many situations. One of my favorite of theirs is whenever the Patriots force a turnover, the offense rushes on to the field, quicksnaps the ball, and Brady bombs it to the end zone. Sure enough, they score most of the time doing this. And it absolutely shatters any momentum the opposing team had.
I agree with you on the Manningham point but you have to also consider the yardage gained by that David Tyree Catch. I don't imagine that on 4th and 5 they go for a 32 yard prayer that gets them just outside of comfortable field goal range, and without that sudden cushion in play time the offense is put in much more of a disadvantage. Again, I am mostly speaking on hypotheticals but that catch was a huge game changer.
Evan Gorgen Yes it was a game changer, but it isn't an excuse like Pats fans usually make it out to be
Slutha Slutha Problem is Manning uncharacteristically scrambled from a 10 yard sack that would have made it 4th and 15 deep in thier own territory so your defense of the Tyree catch is pretty flawed.
Slutha Slutha Mario play in 2nd Super Bowl between Pats and Giants means jack if Welker catches a third down pass in 3rd quarter with Pats up 17-10.
Renaldy Calixte Yeah, see, but he didn't catch it did he?
It's Brady as much as it's Belichick. When Brady retires so should Belichick. His ego won't let him though.
Why does he have to have a women sit there on the side like some prop? They rarely talk and just nod along with what he says, it's embarrassing!
Because when the speak, they make dumb comments.
they are hot
Yea but what about Dion Lewis last night
Speaking of 6 inches and 6 rings... after Eli I & II .. a guy Named Curse/Kearse makes the immaculate conception look like a walk in the park... and only Malcolm Butler (a guy who was new and too niave to know about curses) could have intercepted that ball.. The rest of the Patriots went catatonic
Namaste
Ill agree with coaching.. There ability to adjust and scheme is bar none for the past 10 years
or so
They are about winning
Short answer? Yes.
As far as this instance with the radio is concerned I fell as though the Patriots are innocent. Just as stated at the beginning of the video, everyone was watching them, and New England a lot of things but dumb isn't one of them so I don't think they'd attempt something like that during a meaning less preseason game because the consequences of being caught greatly outweigh the benefits of not.
hes exactly rite, we had it worse than new england did, but since it was in Ne this time, it s a huge story.. media.. so pathetic
Wow, how does anyone know which headsets last?
If that's what mike tomlin heard, RIP Tomlins ears
Yes, but when they win superbowls... They barely win. All of their superbowl wins have at most a 4 point difference
A win is a win
Same with their losses...
Brandon Cooper yeah and cheating is cheating.
To quote the legendary John Madden:
"The team that scores the most points wins."
This might sound like it's a bad thing, but the NFL fans will always get a great Superbowl when the patriots are in, win or lose. I'm a pats fan, and i want them to obviously win, but at the end of the day i just want a Superbowl to remember, not a blowout!
Colin Cowherd needs to forget about what he thinks and focus more on the FACTS!
Who's the broad? That's not Lehey.
Bill belicheck is a badass! I bet Tomlin hates him... 😆 😆 😆
Yeah and the Patriots never would've even made it to the Super Bowl in 2002 if it weren't for things like the "tuck rule"
So they wouldn't have made a super bowl is the refs didn't do their jobs? Great argument.
OMG tomlim always has an excuse like wow first it was antonio brown facebook video then steelers caught the flu tomlin is not a coach more like a cheerleader like he doesnt doesnt do defense play calls or offense hes a cheerleader
leo8164 Calm it down bud
leo8164 Don’t EVER talk about the COTY like that. (Coach of the year). Steelers were, are, and always be the 🐐.
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pats cheat better than anyone collin just said it
wow biased much?
I don't want to make excuses for the Steelers on that game because their secondary just wasn't good enough that day but During the problem with the radio The Patriots all of a sudden go into a no huddle offense and march down field against an opponent that can't rally it's defense. To me that is cheating. In computer game terms it's called 'exploiting a bug for your gain' and in online games it's classed as cheating and is a bannable offence. The Steelers didn't lose that game because of the radio issues in any case. They lost it because on (I think) 2 seperate occasions they got a 1st and goal on the Patriot 1 yard line and only scored 3 points from it. Not good enough. Good thing we bounced back agaisnt the 49'ers though.
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At what point in my above statement did I say that the radio problems were the fault of the Patriots?
The Patriots were informed of the problem as soon as it occurred and they took advantage of it so think next time before you go calling people idiots.
+Josh R lol, real mature comment, what are you, 5?
+Josh R I'm not making accusations I'm commenting based on an observation I made. If you could see past your fanboy tinted glasses you would see that. I don't hate New England, I just said that they took advantage of a situation and exploited a technical fault during the game. It's not cheating cause it can't be proven.
+Josh R I'm a pats fan and he has a point (I know I'm late) Brady goes into a lot of no huddles when the defense is bending.. before that drive when gronk got open they were huddling and Brady was looking at the sideline. the minute the radios went out they started the no huddle... I'm not saying NE was responsible for the radios but once it happened they knew about it and took advantage
This chick is way hotter than Kristine.
+ReasonableMan317 Just Say No brah
namaste
No
I'll take them both.
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Hello? Tuck Rule? 4-1=3. Marshawn Lynch? 3-1=2 superbowl wins.
Brady without Bellichick is a 2x superbowl pony
+Neo How does the tuck rule take away one superbowl win? A rule is a rule and that play rightly stood as it should. And then I agree, Seahawks run at the 1 yard line and in the 3 attempts they had they were probably going to get it in and win, but the Seahawks lost themselves that game, not the Patriots. You could swing it the other way and say the Patriots are 6 inches from 6 superbowls
What about the fact that Vinateri kicked an impossible field goal? Or the fact that Jermaine Kearse had a LUCKY catch that got Seattle to the 1-yard line? Or hey, let me take it a step further. What about that lucky ass David Tyree Catch? Or Asante Samuel's dropped INT? Or Wes Welker's dropped catch?
You say without those two things Brady only has 2 super bowls, I say that without those things I named, Brady is 6-0 in Super Bowls. That's the beauty of the what if game.
Brady without any superbowls is better than anyone in history. The most decorated QB in history. Highest winning pct. Most post season tds, passing yards, etc.