Neville doing everything to not say Utd's main issue lies in a lack of top level coaching. There was even freudian slip at one point, that got Souness and Carragher laughing lol
It’s his Valencia ptsd kicking in, he’s on record multiple times saying when things were tailspinning out of control for him in Spain that he was chopping and changing the team and formation every match, when he should have stuck to establishing a style of playing and a best 11. Neville is criticising Ole in his own way, but you have to remember his attitude as a player would have been one of taking maximum responsibility on himself and his teammates, so it’s entirely natural for him to draw attention to the players role in sorting out the current problems.
@@daviddurkan23 everyone knows Ole is out of his depth apart from him and him not openly stating that he accepts that damages his reputation as it makes him seem unprofessional, uninformed and bias
It's not Paul it's Ole's faults because he bunched him and I think these they're not happy with ole to coach them and let Manchester change the coach you will see how these they're going to perform very well without creating any mistakes
scoring a hattrick with an assist from brilliant Salah is not in the headlines, all we see is Ole this Ole that. Come on If Ronaldo scored hattrick against Liverpool they would be erupting the social media and newspapers.
I sort of know what you mean but yesterday was far more about and said far more about Utd than it did Liverpool. We all know Liverpool are the best team in the country at the moment along with City but yesterday dispite a hattrick for Salah and a 5-0 win at Old Trafford, it wasn't even anywhere near Liverpool's top five performances of the season so far. Utd were were so incredibly awful and setup to cause self inflicted damage all Liverpool had to do was field 11 players and have a go. None of their goals were particularly special, none of the build up play was worth mentioning or getting excited over, it was like a training match against a bunch of useless school boys. There are no words left to describe how shockingly bad Utd are under Ole now, even Liverpool looked a bit uncomfortable going for many more goals after it reached 5-0. Too easy is the understatement of the century.
I know but I think that was just because of shocking United was. People are still in shock, and they want to talk about it. Liverpool was great no doubt but the big headlines are about United is understandable.
@@endlessmotion2255 your'e spot on. I get that salah deserves praise but with man united having "their best team of the last 8 years" you don't expect them to get whacked like that.
Gary is MU thru and thru and doesn't like to see his club embarrassed. But I'm wondering if this 'discussion' took place before the Match of liverpool and MU.
How can you be openly and proudly biased towards your mate and have a position on the panel? Sit these ones out Gary. Come back when you can be objective.
It's just a football panel that exists for entertainment purposes. Bias is allowed and in fact encouraged to create "heated arguments", or in other words, to entertain.
Man u deserve this for raising pogba's arm in place of mourinho's. I said this somewhere before that if pogba was sold, whoever the replacement would have been will have done much better for the team. Lukaku would have stayed in the team instead of rashford crying to ole about not being a center forward which ended in lukaku's exit to inter. Fred sold, martial sold, mata sold, de gea would not have been crap like during ole's era, defence would have been much much better. Bruno would still have come in and done even more wonders. As the entitled fans that we are, we could have been whining about the style of football not being great despite winning some silverware. Maybe even the major trophies. Now, we are worried about our defence being crap and conceding so many goals and always praying to outscore the opponent and not expecting to win any games. I would rather have the worries of having mourinho as manager instead of the ole masterclass/disasterclass coin flip.
9:30min when all the guys laughed at Gary Neville, priceless moment. Gary shot himself in the foot by repeatedly not admitting Ole and/or coach is the main problem.
he has played in the very modern version of the game, under gerrard as well a high pressing coach I imagine he has a very updated understanding of tatical changes
yeah as much as i kinda dslike sounness for his pogba comments he's absolutely destroyed neville in this argument. Idk which united neville was watching last szn but we were pressing. this szn we clearly aren't. And not conceding is key.
he is right, to win this league youve got to press and attack every game like city and liverpool do, ole doesnt have that style, the united team doesnt have that style. theyre miles off it.
@@Writeous0ne I don't think you need to press the whole game like them 2 teams but when you are a team like united you need to pick when you press like chelsea do and as you cab see it works for Chelsea
@@jimmycoon3320 Souness is being complimented. Neville is not being insulted but a) He is partial when it comes to Ole and Utd chat, b) he has v little experience or success as a manager.
"I played with and respect Ole" and "Ole is underperforming so drastically as a manager that he has to go" are not hard to reconcile. This isn't complicated. He is a United legend because of his time as a player, and he's had very good periods as a manager. But, given the huge talent he has at his disposal, he is not doing anywhere near well enough and must leave.
I agree, just cos you're a legend as a player it doesn't make you a great manager. Ole needs experience, he can't manage the ego's in the dressing room. This needs expertise like Sir Alex, Poch and the likes. Manchester United needs an experienced manager, who doesn't put player's before the club. At the moment Ronaldo is bigger than the team and the club. The disrespect shown to Cavani and Bruno has definitely led or caused or to an extent contributed to what United is today.
@@carcarroom You can't score the Treble-winning Champs League final and not be a fan fave forever. He also really did an incredible job as a substitute. He had a good scoring record, and he worked insanely hard for a very long time. He's for sure not amongst the very best strikers the club had, but there are other ways to be a legend.
@@carcarroom 🙆🏾♀️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ sorry to know that you missed the age of the baby faced assassin. Kings without the money. Real football..damn good old days. When football was not a career but a passion
Damn Paul Scholes can see into the future when he said Livetpool will destroy Utd if they play like they did against Atlanta, well it's Liverpool 5 - Man Utd 0 at Old Trafford lol he was right.
Ole at the wheel . He played 4-2-4 against Liverpool. Genius ...Scholes warned him, just this Wednesday, that he was worried , that any other quality team like Liverpool or City , would have scored 4-5. Guess what , it happened...and Scholes was called " miserable " and " ridiculous ".
He wanted to play Greenwood and rashford. But with cr7 he can't play both and then Bruno and pogba. You can't have 4 players who don't attack for the ball. It's not cr7 issue it's managers issue. He played in RM when they were high pressing in UCL games but they didn't have 4 players who don't do it.
Neville should be banned from doing punditry on United. He's turning the entire fanbase against him by talking absolute nonsense. Either do your job as a pundit and speak the truth or get out of the studio and let someone else do it. His credibility as a pundit is withering away with this behaviour.
Mourinho has been proved right about every one of those United players he called out. The British media are disgusting towards Jose, he was correct about Shaw, Pogba, and Martial.
@@chollis380 I see this a lot and I laugh every time. Did you want Mourinho to play unproven young players in Salah and De Bruyne over proven players like Hazard, Oscar, Fabregas, Ramires? Also when Salah and De Bruyne were let go in 2014, Mourinho won the Premier League 14/15.
@@temibusari4848 Believe it or not, 90% of managers end up getting sacked at clubs. That’s football. He did very well at Spurs at the start, he was literally top of the league, dominating. The problem was he didn’t have the squad and had to over play his best players. Naturally there was a drop off. He still got them to a final, after not getting backed by a greedy owner, same with Poch. At Chelsea and Real Madrid he had HUGE success so I’m not sure why you’d bring up those? Very strange.
As a non-Man United fan, I think Ole should be given more time. In fact, Man United should give him 10 year contract. Every team in PL will respect that.
I’m a Liverpool fan and while watching this I thought souness was being unfair to Gary but by the end I think he was just winding him up to get a good laugh 😂😂😂😂
@@thrilla72 it wasn’t about him being right or wrong , he was just ignoring what Gary had to say and going on about the style of play which wasn’t his point
@@levicoker8937 yeah but Souness was pointing out what Gary was talking about would make no difference as they conceeded to many goals, which makes Souness is right!
Ex Utd players as pundits sticking up for Ole as manager is shocking when it is obvious he is out of his depth. If Gary can’t be objective and put his friendship to one side, because it should be irrelevant, then he shouldn’t cover United again until Ole has gone. Paul Scholes is the only ex Utd player who has been objective and he was spot on
This aged so well. United should have conceded 10goals infact to open their eyes. How many matches do you need to rectify the same defensive errors? Leicester, Everton, Atalanta?
The defensive organization at the back is pathetic... There is no definite structure at the back.... The biggest culprit has been Harry Maguire!!!!!!!!!
The problem is the coach. How hard is it to blame Ole . What’s Ronaldo supposed to do when the defense gives up at least 2 goals à game 😂 Olé is the problem
Scapegoating Ronaldo for the lack of pressing as the reason why this team is struggling is beyond me. The issues on this team lay much deeper than this, this almost feels like a smoke screen for a bigger problem which most pundits either won't and can't discuss.
For one Fred and Mctominay are decent squad players but are not good enough to play together they are limited to what they can offer you. Maguire and Lindelof make the perfect Chucklevison duo.
Tbh we won 3-2 against Liverpool without him,we finished 3rd which seems highly unlikely this season again without Ronaldo,ofc ole is the bigger part of the problem but we never needed him just to bench Cavani who was excellent. It's not about individual stats, cr7 doesn't do anything outside the box. Cavani does a lot of work and is lethal in the box as well. The last thing this team needed is to play around an individual that too a striker and if you know football then you'd agree that you can't play around a striker
They aren’t actually blaming Ronaldo. That’s what the newspaper do. They indicated that the Attacking side is decent enough just the poor defense make Attackers’ effort totally meaningless.
Ronaldo is a part of the problem Ole the moron Is another Mcfred is another Donkey defenders are another Basically, we aren't a team and the manager will rightly get the blame
It's not even about defending him, you don't see the big picture. Sacking Ole doesn't change anything, we need a Sir AF level manager, yes Ole ain't that. But there is no one of that caliber to come in... Zidane? Nope, he doesn't want to come to the prem.... Conte? Nope, not a good long time manager. Also it's not just the manager, it's the players too they aren't doing there part either. We will never have what we had before or find a Sir AF manager ever again. Also Pogba will leave in the summer, and we will need to rebuild the midfield.
@@MrJJuK Conte is a winner who would not tolerate any of this lackluster attitude from the players. With exactly the same squad of players he could change the entire fabric in a matter of weeks. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would not want that.
@Nasser K klopp won premier league just before that season, that was once in a decade sort of embarrassment. what is ole's biggest achievement? Europa league loss?. We failed to win against Everton, villa even lost to west ham. Leicester scored 4 if it wasn't for degea Leicester would have scored 6 , last season spurs scored 6 and Liverpool scored 4 this time Liverpool scored 5 and not to mention that after pogbas red card they switched off. keep ole and city will score 10 and most funny part is no one is going to be shocked after 10-0 loss to city because everyone saw Liverpool's thrashing coming.
United did not sign players they needed. They signed players they wanted. Ronaldo, Sancho and Varane are top players but why are there still 2 dms called Fred and Mctominay in the midfield?
Graeme - The biggest issue at Manchester United started in August 2016, when a certain midfielder who wears the number 6 for club and country re-joined the club. Hmmm, I wonder who that may be?
lol the criticism of Pogba in his time here has been unfair at times but not because it’s ever been wrong or not justified, but because he’s always been one of many
@@Cosmic-Wanderer you really need to read my comment again lol I’ve said it’s justified but just that there’s been several others who deserved as much or more then they got anyway
@@kJ922-h3j go read the scoreline lad 5-0 and we took it easy. Konate 22 years old monster at the back 10x the player varane or maguire. Ronaldo is an oap couldnt finish his dinner. Salah is the best player in the world. By a mile
This year I'm with you 100% I think he was talking about Chelsea in the past season, which it won a Champions League playing counter attack football. Nonetheless how Chelsea plays should be the last of Gary's problem right now
@@federicobattistetti3108 did you watch Chelsea vs Real Madrid? And Atletico Madrid? All they literally did was press the Madrid clubs out of possession and hit them on the counter with Kante and Jorginho blocking passing lanes and kante tackling and stealing the ball. I’m pretty sure those 2 covered the most distance in the UCL
The problem is the manager/coach and his coaching staff. David Moyes, LVG and Jose Mourinho all had worse teams than OGS and they still ended getting slated by the British media and eventually got the sack. You can't blame the players, It's all on the manager. Ole has some of the best players at his disposal now and he still refuses to play them.
As a united fan Gary's being biased here stop sticking up for your mate he's absolutely done he's clueless no tactics no hunger that dressing room would be on fire with SAF now we need a new manager personally zidane would suit knowing he won 3 UCL with Ronaldo there is a great team here but not managers absolutely disgrace well done Liverpool even though it's sore but I'm not bitter
That "I told you we'd enjoy today" just sums it up. The three of them (and everyone else in the world) know who's at fault but Gary hasn't got the balls to give honest criticism about his mate.
As a neutral i feel United are easy to Go through, because when they press the attackers arent connected with each other, which leaves a huge Gap In midfield. If they had a dm that would make them be tougher to Go through, however they have mcfred. This leaves united with four defenders
I don’t know if ronaldo makes us a better team but he hasn’t made us worse, the issue in our play has been there for ages. With ronaldo we have essentially just signed a better cavani cause really he’s just a box striker too now. The fact we didn’t address the two midfield roles in the summer is the real crime
@@あらあら-l2g ok, but if ronaldo scores more than he would then that trumps that. Also the pressing issue would only be an issue if the rest of the team did it consistently and as a unit anyway which they don’t, so ronaldo hasn’t disrupted anything like that
Defoe scored more goals with the mighty Glasgow rangers per minutes played than any other club he's ever played for he can do what he wants in my books Jermian no surrender WATP
The Ex United players never accept that Ole is the reason behind United's poor performance and they will always blame the players rather than Ole's poor tactics 😴 Even if you include Messi and Ronaldo on their prime under Ole, they wouldn't win big matches.
Yeah I mean I think it's stupid he's still at the club but everytime they score a last minute winner in Europe because of individual talent I'm buzzing
When us football fans in Italy said that Ronaldo took Juventus backwards, his fanboys kept pointing to his goals. And now, the pundits are repeating the same.
Here is the conclusion of the whole matter, there's no identity. I also don't see how Solksjaer can successfully give manchester united an identity because he doesn't seem to know what he's doing.
They do have an identity - they are a team that doesn't fight to win the ball, have an ineffective midfield that doesn't score much or create much, have a manager who has no answers to the problems he creates...
In all honesty, I think man utd would be a great challenge for a manager. You've things to fix, and you've players to fix that. You have to be a manager who can adapt your style and fit this crop of players and make them winners.
Souness just wanna have a debate for the sake of it. G nev was tryna make his point about ronaldo & focal point, souness outta nowhere " Its about clean sheets", bruh let him make his point first.
I’ve always said Gary would make a good politician ( well he thinks he already is) he says what we all know without actually saying it and avoiding the real problem
Souness - "its all Paul Pogbas fault"
Gary - "it's definitely not Oles fault"
Roy Keane - “And De Gea” 👀
@@paddylast5839 it’s definitely not de gea lol
@@paddylast5839 Keane: De Gea, great Save? That's his job, give me a break.
@@B33FY2011 Keane “I’d be swinging punches at him at half time, there’s no getting away from that” 😂
@@paddylast5839 I know lmao
Neville doing everything to not say Utd's main issue lies in a lack of top level coaching. There was even freudian slip at one point, that got Souness and Carragher laughing lol
just cuz Gary doesn't say it doesn't mean it's not true, he doesn't wanna hurt his old chum oles feelings
@@mosalahmosalahrunningdownt5579 i agree - neville knows deep down Utd are terribly coached but that means publicly questioning Ole, which he wont do
@@realistian he's a true friend, and ought to be respected for this. Friendship runs deeper than everything, bar family.
It’s his Valencia ptsd kicking in, he’s on record multiple times saying when things were tailspinning out of control for him in Spain that he was chopping and changing the team and formation every match, when he should have stuck to establishing a style of playing and a best 11. Neville is criticising Ole in his own way, but you have to remember his attitude as a player would have been one of taking maximum responsibility on himself and his teammates, so it’s entirely natural for him to draw attention to the players role in sorting out the current problems.
@@F--B but he is also a pundit. he should be able to critique Ole’s management without disrespecting him
The inner conflict between “ Ole is crap “ and. “ Ole was my team mate “ is so apparent. Truth is hard sometimes.
Never turning your back on your brothers is a great virtue to have. His admiration for Ole is bigger than football
@@daviddurkan23 the problem is... he is putting Ole above his club, man utd, where's admiration for club?
@@bob40179 he's not. Gary Neville has nothing to do with the Board who will decide Ole's future. He's a pundit
@@daviddurkan23 I agree it’s a virtue but it prevents him from speaking the truth.
@@daviddurkan23 everyone knows Ole is out of his depth apart from him and him not openly stating that he accepts that damages his reputation as it makes him seem unprofessional, uninformed and bias
Souness - "Its all Paul Pogba's fault."
Someone else - "But he didn't start!"
Souness - "And whose fault is that?"
Pogba: Mum, dad, it's all my fault.
Dad: Well, actually Paul, it's not ALL your fault. We should never have had you.
@@NeilMalthus don't be stupid
Ole at the wheel
Pogba the most overrated footballer
It's not Paul it's Ole's faults because he bunched him and I think these they're not happy with ole to coach them and let Manchester change the coach you will see how these they're going to perform very well without creating any mistakes
scoring a hattrick with an assist from brilliant Salah is not in the headlines, all we see is Ole this Ole that. Come on If Ronaldo scored hattrick against Liverpool they would be erupting the social media and newspapers.
I sort of know what you mean but yesterday was far more about and said far more about Utd than it did Liverpool. We all know Liverpool are the best team in the country at the moment along with City but yesterday dispite a hattrick for Salah and a 5-0 win at Old Trafford, it wasn't even anywhere near Liverpool's top five performances of the season so far. Utd were were so incredibly awful and setup to cause self inflicted damage all Liverpool had to do was field 11 players and have a go. None of their goals were particularly special, none of the build up play was worth mentioning or getting excited over, it was like a training match against a bunch of useless school boys. There are no words left to describe how shockingly bad Utd are under Ole now, even Liverpool looked a bit uncomfortable going for many more goals after it reached 5-0. Too easy is the understatement of the century.
You are very correct
I know but I think that was just because of shocking United was. People are still in shock, and they want to talk about it. Liverpool was great no doubt but the big headlines are about United is understandable.
Yes. Same thing when Messi scored against Leipzing, people act like he just scored in the final. But when it's Salah? Media goes 😴
@@endlessmotion2255 your'e spot on. I get that salah deserves praise but with man united having "their best team of the last 8 years" you don't expect them to get whacked like that.
Gary ruining his reputation as fair and balanced pundit for Ole is crazy. Dude he is not worth it.
Haha! 0-4 at HT against Liverpool. Gary can`t keep doing this.
@@mursuka80 sadly he will.
Gary is MU thru and thru and doesn't like to see his club embarrassed. But I'm wondering if this 'discussion' took place before the Match of liverpool and MU.
Leave ole and Gary alone he is a brilliant manager he held liverpool to 0-0 for the last 40 minutes
@@lawildman1 when the game had ended?
Carra ended Neville with the "so it's a coaching issue?" question 🤣
Everyone else laughing along is just the icing on the cake
9:36 🤣🤣
the 2 scousers always fancy a chance to laugh at Gary lol
Imagine what Gary would have said with Jose as the coach
My thoughts exactly, he is simply being bias
he never shot against jose.. he is always in favor of managers. and he still formulates criticims against the tactics. fair analysis.
Neville was defending Mourinho. You guys are ignorant. Check your facts before spewing garbave
The way Souness and Carra just let Gary talk as they were laughing in the background at the end 🤣🤣
Brilliant. Knocked them off their perch.
Watching Carra’s smug smile while Neville and Souness are arguing is MOOD!
Ole is relying on a moment of individual brilliance which will materialize every ten games.
How can you be openly and proudly biased towards your mate and have a position on the panel? Sit these ones out Gary. Come back when you can be objective.
He is right though, OLE IN!!
Roy Keane should have been on instead of Neville, no holding back with roy Keane
It's just a football panel that exists for entertainment purposes. Bias is allowed and in fact encouraged to create "heated arguments", or in other words, to entertain.
Neville is slowly but surely turning himself into a meme
Exactly 😂
He speaks about the VIBES yet Lvg and Mou won something with a team far worse
After Rio Manchester United is back
He already is
Failed manager and didn't even get off the ground as a pundit because he can't be unbiased
Imagine thinking Mourinho was ever the problem winning Europa League with Phil Jones 🤣
Man u deserve this for raising pogba's arm in place of mourinho's. I said this somewhere before that if pogba was sold, whoever the replacement would have been will have done much better for the team. Lukaku would have stayed in the team instead of rashford crying to ole about not being a center forward which ended in lukaku's exit to inter. Fred sold, martial sold, mata sold, de gea would not have been crap like during ole's era, defence would have been much much better. Bruno would still have come in and done even more wonders. As the entitled fans that we are, we could have been whining about the style of football not being great despite winning some silverware. Maybe even the major trophies. Now, we are worried about our defence being crap and conceding so many goals and always praying to outscore the opponent and not expecting to win any games. I would rather have the worries of having mourinho as manager instead of the ole masterclass/disasterclass coin flip.
Neville talking about feelings and moods...This is football, we can address our feelings after winning trophies.
imagine thinking phil jones is any worse than maguire
His attitude was a problem players diddnt like him but hese on a different planet as a manager to ole thats for sure
What? It was still trash football. Just because the next manager also plays trash football doesn't mean the previous manager was good.
Neville - " He my friend don't sack him"
Everyone else with a brain - "bye Ole"
No, everyone else can string a sentence together
That was funny
Why would you buy ole...
That's a waste of money he's totally useless at football nowadays and even worse as a manager...
"He me friend, don't sack him!"
Me: "Sack him, and you can go with him, friendo!"
Liverpool and City fans: keep Ole at the wheel!
9:30min when all the guys laughed at Gary Neville, priceless moment. Gary shot himself in the foot by repeatedly not admitting Ole and/or coach is the main problem.
😅😅😅that was hilarious.
i think the laugh came mainly from the freudian slip Gary made out the coaching is in fact the issue
Looks like he just can't stop having enough of Ole's red balls
Tbf Defoe was quite knowledgable especially the bit at the end about pressing and Leicester . He would be a good guest to bring back.
Agreed, I'd like to see Defo get the Rangers job when Gerrard moves on.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂what do u even listen to what he actually says he doesnt say anything that isnt obvious
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yeh decent pundit
he has played in the very modern version of the game, under gerrard as well a high pressing coach I imagine he has a very updated understanding of tatical changes
3:40 Souness was spot on with his pressing tactics & United have just proved him right by conceding 5 trying to half heartedly press Liverpool..
yeah as much as i kinda dslike sounness for his pogba comments he's absolutely destroyed neville in this argument. Idk which united neville was watching last szn but we were pressing. this szn we clearly aren't. And not conceding is key.
he is right, to win this league youve got to press and attack every game like city and liverpool do, ole doesnt have that style, the united team doesnt have that style. theyre miles off it.
@@Writeous0ne I don't think you need to press the whole game like them 2 teams but when you are a team like united you need to pick when you press like chelsea do and as you cab see it works for Chelsea
@@BenBrianProductions chelsea have got better defenders and holding midfielders, united cant do it it exposes them too much.
Hindsight
Give Ole more time. A lot of people really enjoy seeing him at the helm of MU. Sign him to a 30-year contract right now.
I have this conversation with my friends all the time. It's so entertaining to see Ole in charge. I never want it to end.
God imagine 30 years of not having to even think about United, that'd be glorious.
Same recycled joke I see everywhere. Be original pal
@@haizee2330 The only recycled joke I see is Utd.
@@haizee2330 5-0 , let that sink in
First time I've seen Neville rattled like that, Souness is a sketch winding him up and Carra and even Defoe loving it haaa
Because he didn't have Keane backing him up or deflecting for him
@@gunnerglory honestly this did need Roy Keane
Souness has forgotten more than Neville will ever know.
@@dundeedolphin can’t tell who’s being insulted and complimented off that lol
@@jimmycoon3320 Souness is being complimented. Neville is not being insulted but a) He is partial when it comes to Ole and Utd chat, b) he has v little experience or success as a manager.
"I played with and respect Ole" and "Ole is underperforming so drastically as a manager that he has to go" are not hard to reconcile. This isn't complicated. He is a United legend because of his time as a player, and he's had very good periods as a manager. But, given the huge talent he has at his disposal, he is not doing anywhere near well enough and must leave.
I agree, just cos you're a legend as a player it doesn't make you a great manager. Ole needs experience, he can't manage the ego's in the dressing room. This needs expertise like Sir Alex, Poch and the likes. Manchester United needs an experienced manager, who doesn't put player's before the club. At the moment Ronaldo is bigger than the team and the club. The disrespect shown to Cavani and Bruno has definitely led or caused or to an extent contributed to what United is today.
He wasn’t even a legend. He was a benchwarmer
@@carcarroom You can't score the Treble-winning Champs League final and not be a fan fave forever. He also really did an incredible job as a substitute. He had a good scoring record, and he worked insanely hard for a very long time. He's for sure not amongst the very best strikers the club had, but there are other ways to be a legend.
@@Wakama783 agreed
@@carcarroom 🙆🏾♀️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ sorry to know that you missed the age of the baby faced assassin. Kings without the money. Real football..damn good old days. When football was not a career but a passion
Damn Paul Scholes can see into the future when he said Livetpool will destroy Utd if they play like they did against Atlanta, well it's Liverpool 5 - Man Utd 0 at Old Trafford lol he was right.
He even said if they play like that vs Liverpool, they'd be 4 goals down at half time.
It's the Chelsea stat that people diss him for
Ole played the same team too. That’s the amazing part of this. It’s the definition of madness doing the same thing but expecting different results.
Paul is by far unt best player ever a legend ! He was praised by zidan so he’s definitely the one with the brain out of all these past unt players !
@@DZUP2023 should have made Scholes the manager instead of Ole
Ole at the wheel .
He played 4-2-4 against Liverpool.
Genius ...Scholes warned him, just this Wednesday, that he was worried , that any other quality team like Liverpool or City , would have scored 4-5.
Guess what , it happened...and Scholes was called " miserable " and " ridiculous ".
He wanted to play Greenwood and rashford. But with cr7 he can't play both and then Bruno and pogba. You can't have 4 players who don't attack for the ball. It's not cr7 issue it's managers issue. He played in RM when they were high pressing in UCL games but they didn't have 4 players who don't do it.
I watched the game just to see if Scholey had a point.
Spot on
Love how hard Gary tries to avoid criticising the coach so hard at the end there. blatant bias
he don't wanna upset him chum ole
We all know, but its funny to watch.
He kind of indirectly criticises him, like the point about issues with the training. Lol, he just won’t call for Ole to be fired.
If you’re for a bias pundit look no further than Carra or Souness…. Both bitter and twisted
@@Wirralwonderer they're all bias. its natural to be bias to the club you spent large parts with
Neville should be banned from doing punditry on United. He's turning the entire fanbase against him by talking absolute nonsense. Either do your job as a pundit and speak the truth or get out of the studio and let someone else do it. His credibility as a pundit is withering away with this behaviour.
I was giggling with Souness and Carra as Neville rambled on. They certainly got him worked up😂😂😂
9:05 Gary Neville is OleOut deep down. He will simply never admit that publicly
9:30 Carra even gives him a chance to say it but he doesn’t !
Watching this 5 - 0 down Souness is bang on.
Ole is like a pyromaniac. He starts fires just so he can extinguish them.
Noice
dayum ......
That's not what a pyromaniac does lol
@@jamesfletcher474 let him have this one lol
Today he started fires and he threw away the extinguishers 😂
Mourinho has been proved right about every one of those United players he called out. The British media are disgusting towards Jose, he was correct about Shaw, Pogba, and Martial.
was he correct about mo salah and KDB both of which he thought were useless?
@@chollis380 I see this a lot and I laugh every time. Did you want Mourinho to play unproven young players in Salah and De Bruyne over proven players like Hazard, Oscar, Fabregas, Ramires? Also when Salah and De Bruyne were let go in 2014, Mourinho won the Premier League 14/15.
So what happened at Spurs then? Or did I imagine he got sacked AGAIN for FAILURE. Or twice by Chelsea or Real Madrid.
@@temibusari4848 Believe it or not, 90% of managers end up getting sacked at clubs. That’s football. He did very well at Spurs at the start, he was literally top of the league, dominating. The problem was he didn’t have the squad and had to over play his best players. Naturally there was a drop off. He still got them to a final, after not getting backed by a greedy owner, same with Poch. At Chelsea and Real Madrid he had HUGE success so I’m not sure why you’d bring up those? Very strange.
@@dios.9586 Because to say Jose was right can be debunked. Guy has been SACKED 4 times. He is not without fault. That’s my point.
Graeme is right, they arent playing as a team, and when you dont defend as a team, you are gonna concede a lot of goals and hence lose games.
As a non-Man United fan, I think Ole should be given more time. In fact, Man United should give him 10 year contract. Every team in PL will respect that.
Just give him a life long deal, he needs time!
😅😅
😂😂😂😂
Speaking as a neutral Borussia Monchenbarebach supporter, i agree Ole needs to be given another few seasons at least to win a Europa league.
I agree need to plough on with one
Defoe just sat there like how did I finesse my way here.
😂😂😂😂😂
The Defoe Derby is on as we speak
@@siyo99 I’m too busy watching the cricket lad it’s derby day in every sport
Cos he black!
@Consuela De La Morrela who's we? Have you split personality?
I loved how everyone laughed at garry in the end 😭 😂
Belter craic
Lol that was hilarious 😂😂😂
Can you please transcript that part, because I couldn't understand exactly the sense of humor 😀
Like you comment Garry talking crap. and was a crap manager 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Mustafa-gy9fm because Gary stuttered and said it was a coaching issue and quickly said something else. So they started laughing bc he won’t admit it
Neville refuses to tell the Emperor that he has no clothes on, even though everyone else has.
Jermaine saved Gary by talking about Leicester or they'd still be laughing 😃
When all 4 of them laughed at Gary you could see Gary getting frustrated with them, I was giggling like a kid with them
That's because he can give it out but not take it....This from an "Expert pundit" that said on MNF that utd would win.
Defoe right now thinking “How the hell did I do that?”😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Do what?
Defoe needed to be subbed for Keano here in order to get optimal drama
I’m a Liverpool fan and while watching this I thought souness was being unfair to Gary but by the end I think he was just winding him up to get a good laugh 😂😂😂😂
But Souness is right, Man United 's issue is conceding goals not scoring them
@@thrilla72 it wasn’t about him being right or wrong , he was just ignoring what Gary had to say and going on about the style of play which wasn’t his point
@@levicoker8937 yeah but Souness was pointing out what Gary was talking about would make no difference as they conceeded to many goals, which makes Souness is right!
@@levicoker8937 Yeah, when I carried on lol I got it. Still though, focal point scmocal point
Souness, Carra and Gary are all good friends, I'm sure it was just banter
9:34 Graeme Knew it before it happened. WHEN HE TOLD JAMIE I TOLD YOU WE'LL ENJOY TODAY😂🤣
😅
Ex Utd players as pundits sticking up for Ole as manager is shocking when it is obvious he is out of his depth. If Gary can’t be objective and put his friendship to one side, because it should be irrelevant, then he shouldn’t cover United again until Ole has gone. Paul Scholes is the only ex Utd player who has been objective and he was spot on
This aged so well. United should have conceded 10goals infact to open their eyes. How many matches do you need to rectify the same defensive errors? Leicester, Everton, Atalanta?
As a Man Utd fan, if the 5-0 still changes nothing, then I think nothing will happen until at least after we crash and burn against Man City.
Klopp said to his team during halftime that they cant score more than 5 otherwise United board would sack Ole instantly..
The defensive organization at the back is pathetic... There is no definite structure at the back.... The biggest culprit has been Harry Maguire!!!!!!!!!
They need another drubbing at Atalanta.. n another from Man City...
Same defensive errors for 3 seasons
Garry give it a rest, almost everyone knows what the issue is.
Not having a defensive midfielder
@@dhm5675 ^
Paul Pogba Hairstyles lol
@@dhm5675 he’s talking about ole
THE FACT THAT THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH MAN UTD SEE NO FAULT WITH OLE IS A BONUS TO THE REST OF THE LEAGUE ESPECIALLY CHE, LIV & CITY
Che Guevara is dead mate.
Souness was talking about something different, and both him and Gary were arguing two separate points.
The problem is the coach. How hard is it to blame Ole . What’s Ronaldo supposed to do when the defense gives up at least 2 goals à game 😂 Olé is the problem
Best comment here
We must thank utd legends like Gary and Roy keane to keep Ole in the job 😂😂
Class of 92 will destroy the club because ya know..... loyalty
@@dexter4016 None of them are running the club. They are pundits. Lol you guys are embarassing yourselves.
@@markomaran9753 pundits influence the fans and if the fans are happy then the clubs not going to disappoint them by sacking a manager they support
Scapegoating Ronaldo for the lack of pressing as the reason why this team is struggling is beyond me. The issues on this team lay much deeper than this, this almost feels like a smoke screen for a bigger problem which most pundits either won't and can't discuss.
For one Fred and Mctominay are decent squad players but are not good enough to play together they are limited to what they can offer you. Maguire and Lindelof make the perfect Chucklevison duo.
Tbh we won 3-2 against Liverpool without him,we finished 3rd which seems highly unlikely this season again without Ronaldo,ofc ole is the bigger part of the problem but we never needed him just to bench Cavani who was excellent. It's not about individual stats, cr7 doesn't do anything outside the box. Cavani does a lot of work and is lethal in the box as well.
The last thing this team needed is to play around an individual that too a striker and if you know football then you'd agree that you can't play around a striker
They aren’t actually blaming Ronaldo. That’s what the newspaper do.
They indicated that the Attacking side is decent enough just the poor defense make Attackers’ effort totally meaningless.
Ronaldo is a part of the problem
Ole the moron Is another
Mcfred is another
Donkey defenders are another
Basically, we aren't a team and the manager will rightly get the blame
United need to play 2 in midfield
Gary still going to defend Ole after the 5-0 pounding? 😂
It's not even about defending him, you don't see the big picture. Sacking Ole doesn't change anything, we need a Sir AF level manager, yes Ole ain't that. But there is no one of that caliber to come in... Zidane? Nope, he doesn't want to come to the prem.... Conte? Nope, not a good long time manager.
Also it's not just the manager, it's the players too they aren't doing there part either.
We will never have what we had before or find a Sir AF manager ever again.
Also Pogba will leave in the summer, and we will need to rebuild the midfield.
@@MrJJuK Conte is a winner who would not tolerate any of this lackluster attitude from the players. With exactly the same squad of players he could change the entire fabric in a matter of weeks. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would not want that.
@@MrJJuK Zidane would want the job
@Nasser K klopp won premier league just before that season, that was once in a decade sort of embarrassment. what is ole's biggest achievement? Europa league loss?. We failed to win against Everton, villa even lost to west ham. Leicester scored 4 if it wasn't for degea Leicester would have scored 6 , last season spurs scored 6 and Liverpool scored 4 this time Liverpool scored 5 and not to mention that after pogbas red card they switched off. keep ole and city will score 10 and most funny part is no one is going to be shocked after 10-0 loss to city because everyone saw Liverpool's thrashing coming.
Souness and cara laughing at gary is a legendary moment
When everyone in the room laugh's at Gary like that you no is blood pressure is through the roof haha.
They all just laughed at Neville for like 20 seconds ahaha
Souness was always going to push Neville wasn’t he 😂 @9:35
Absolutely love it 😂😂
Man talked himself into it
The cosmetic surgery on Graeme is unbelievable.
United did not sign players they needed. They signed players they wanted. Ronaldo, Sancho and Varane are top players but why are there still 2 dms called Fred and Mctominay in the midfield?
Ole is relying on a moment of individual brilliance which will materialize every ten games.
Man Neville almost cried when they started laughing 🤣🤣
Graeme - The biggest issue at Manchester United started in August 2016, when a certain midfielder who wears the number 6 for club and country re-joined the club. Hmmm, I wonder who that may be?
lol the criticism of Pogba in his time here has been unfair at times but not because it’s ever been wrong or not justified, but because he’s always been one of many
paulo paul pogba
@@Cosmic-Wanderer you really need to read my comment again lol I’ve said it’s justified but just that there’s been several others who deserved as much or more then they got anyway
@@kJ922-h3j go read the scoreline lad 5-0 and we took it easy. Konate 22 years old monster at the back 10x the player varane or maguire. Ronaldo is an oap couldnt finish his dinner. Salah is the best player in the world. By a mile
Paid 89 million for a player to come to your team and have just 1 great season in 5 years
8:55 There is no way I've just heard Gary say Chelsea is not a high pressing team looool
That's funny.... we can say to hims as well, that his coaching period with Valencia was full of trophies and victories !!!!!!!
This year I'm with you 100% I think he was talking about Chelsea in the past season, which it won a Champions League playing counter attack football. Nonetheless how Chelsea plays should be the last of Gary's problem right now
@@federicobattistetti3108 did you watch Chelsea vs Real Madrid? And Atletico Madrid? All they literally did was press the Madrid clubs out of possession and hit them on the counter with Kante and Jorginho blocking passing lanes and kante tackling and stealing the ball. I’m pretty sure those 2 covered the most distance in the UCL
Graame - the problem comes when a certain french footballer was born on the 15th of March 1993, its the root of Manchester Uniteds problems
Paul Pogba
Neville - “It’s not a Paul Pogba issue”
Souness - “You have to throw him into the mix as well”
HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
The problem is the manager/coach and his coaching staff.
David Moyes, LVG and Jose Mourinho all had worse teams than OGS and they still ended getting slated by the British media and eventually got the sack.
You can't blame the players, It's all on the manager. Ole has some of the best players at his disposal now and he still refuses to play them.
Graeme was absolutely spot on. He called it.
As a united fan Gary's being biased here stop sticking up for your mate he's absolutely done he's clueless no tactics no hunger that dressing room would be on fire with SAF now we need a new manager personally zidane would suit knowing he won 3 UCL with Ronaldo there is a great team here but not managers absolutely disgrace well done Liverpool even though it's sore but I'm not bitter
Nah Ole has to stay 100%
You are right, Gary is a biased pundit right from time which l don't like about him.
That "I told you we'd enjoy today" just sums it up. The three of them (and everyone else in the world) know who's at fault but Gary hasn't got the balls to give honest criticism about his mate.
Gary’s getting laughed out the room for good reason, won’t admit that his mate is the reason ManU is playing terrible SMH
As a neutral i feel United are easy to Go through, because when they press the attackers arent connected with each other, which leaves a huge Gap In midfield. If they had a dm that would make them be tougher to Go through, however they have mcfred. This leaves united with four defenders
Matic
@@mosalahmosalahrunningdownt5579 they don't play him
Bad pressing is worse than no pressing
@@arshiamotazedian9334 ik which is a problem
Everyone knows how to play against Man Utd
He's not a fan. If he backs his mate over the club, he can't call himself a fan no longer.
Well said mate, never thought of it that way before
"Jermaine as someone who was in Ronaldo's position, they were high hopes from you at Sunderland" 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao
Even Defoe was confused by that lol
Thats gotta be one of the most brain melting sentences i've ever heard
The other 3 were ready to bust out laughing but new if they did there jobs would have been on the line
Never thought I’d see the day when Souness speaks more sense than Neville
I’d play 442 with two up top.. Cavani, and Ronaldo, two of the best strikers in the world.
Exactly!!!!
Its abysmal that they still haven’t started a game together upfront
They have experience and are deadly
I don’t know if ronaldo makes us a better team but he hasn’t made us worse, the issue in our play has been there for ages. With ronaldo we have essentially just signed a better cavani cause really he’s just a box striker too now. The fact we didn’t address the two midfield roles in the summer is the real crime
Cavani runs a lot more
@@あらあら-l2g scoring matters not running brother
@@あらあら-l2g ok, but if ronaldo scores more than he would then that trumps that. Also the pressing issue would only be an issue if the rest of the team did it consistently and as a unit anyway which they don’t, so ronaldo hasn’t disrupted anything like that
@@himss2998 Ronaldo couldn't even do that today. 😂
I think losing to Liverpool 5-0 at home makes you worse than ever.
Asking Jermain to compare his time at Sunderland as the main man to Ronaldo 🤣
Defoe is a highly intelligent person.
I hope that's sarcasm
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere it’s not sarcasm it’s true
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere Yes lol
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere why would it be sarcasm numb nuts?
@@obitriceforlife5771 you need help then.
8:45 - Jamie laughing inside 🤣
Carragher’s face at 8:39 😂😂he’s loving this
Defoe looking like it's his first day at work experience 🤣
okay
intern day
Apprenticeship business. 😂
Not rlly tho mate
Defoe scored more goals with the mighty Glasgow rangers per minutes played than any other club he's ever played for he can do what he wants in my books Jermian no surrender WATP
They’re still doubting Ronaldo even AFTER his phenomenal start to the season. Wow!
@Jake Upji he still makes us better. Without him we wouldn’t be winning the games we have and would be in europa league once again!
@Jake Upji
The point is that Ronaldo isn't the problem. His job is to score, not defend. That problem lies with both the midfielders and defenders.
Ronaldo must be thinking why he ever came back looking at the shambles he's playing with.
@Jake Upji how is that Ronald's fault lmao
@@cpmicah485 And how the hell do you know that? Did you see an alternate timeline?
Give it a rest Gary. You know you've lost your head when souness is talking more sense than you. Leave the bias and do your job properly
This comment is brilliant 😂😂😂👏🏾
Everyone just laughing at Gary neville made my day😭😂😂
The Ex United players never accept that Ole is the reason behind United's poor performance and they will always blame the players rather than Ole's poor tactics 😴 Even if you include Messi and Ronaldo on their prime under Ole, they wouldn't win big matches.
Gary's trying very hard to keep Ole at ManU. And that's exactly what non-ManU fans want too! You couldn't make it up!😂😂😂
Spot on 😂
Yeah I mean I think it's stupid he's still at the club but everytime they score a last minute winner in Europe because of individual talent I'm buzzing
Souness and Carragher absolutely stirring the pot...u love to see it 😆😆😆
The biggest issue of Manchester United is Liverpool. I have never laughed so much in my life.
After the match - Souness was 100% right. It's almost creepy.
When us football fans in Italy said that Ronaldo took Juventus backwards, his fanboys kept pointing to his goals. And now, the pundits are repeating the same.
Sky sports love a good "clash" and "heated argument"
Here is the conclusion of the whole matter, there's no identity. I also don't see how Solksjaer can successfully give manchester united an identity because he doesn't seem to know what he's doing.
They do have an identity - they are a team that doesn't fight to win the ball, have an ineffective midfield that doesn't score much or create much, have a manager who has no answers to the problems he creates...
Souness must be getting a bonus from sky everytime he mentions pogba's name
In all honesty, I think man utd would be a great challenge for a manager. You've things to fix, and you've players to fix that. You have to be a manager who can adapt your style and fit this crop of players and make them winners.
No Keane today which is rare but I’d say his heart would’ve stopped a few times seeing that abysmal display.
Souness just wanna have a debate for the sake of it. G nev was tryna make his point about ronaldo & focal point, souness outta nowhere " Its about clean sheets", bruh let him make his point first.
Souness is spot on again, and I like to see the post match interview about this performance.
8:33 nevilles face at being schooled 😆
I lost it @9:34. Just seeing Carra and Soue with those cheeky grins while Neville drones on is priceless. 🤣🤣
When Ole brought Pogba on, was I the only one who said "OMG, he's bound to get sent off"?
Nope. It was VERY predictable to me. That level of game, 4-0 down he’s hardly the smartest at defending. Felt like he was thrown to the 🐺.
tf is Defoe doing there😂😂
Cause he played for Spurs and West Ham, the early game…
Hes black
@@AlanOLeary209 haha
I was shocked to see he is the pl 9th top scorer
He was amazing pro and a great goalscorer
gary cant have it saying Ole is the prob…but man’s indirectly saying it lmao 😂
Gary trying to avoid saying Ole is the issue. It’s clearly a coaching issue when a team doesn’t know when to press together
I’ve always said Gary would make a good politician ( well he thinks he already is) he says what we all know without actually saying it and avoiding the real problem
Carra and Souey laughing in the end. Absolute gold
Few weeks back,
Neville: RONALDO is our focal point.
Now,
Neville: We need a striker alongside Ronaldo. 🤦🤦
If United fans loves Carra more than Gary Neville as a pundit, that tells a lot about Gary Neville as a pundit...