APP is my first port of call when stacking the options are vast even where I can use an OSC with dual band and separate HA from O3 and do recombinations etc. love it
The debayer algorithm is one of the best. Among other things, still among the debayer options, it allows you to separate the Ha and Oiii channels directly from an osc chamber. Do you have experience with this?
Superb to hear it mate! I'm totally in the same boat, I don't even think of stacking in anything else these days because APP just does such a good job :-) Clear skies!
@@alfontheroad3790 Hey there mate! I'll be honest, I haven't got enough experience with that particular feature to really have much of an opinion I'm afraid - I'll have to explore it more 👍 Cheers for watching!
Been using APP 4 years and I didn't know you could run everything in one click, I sat through and clicked all the individual tasks as you say you did at the start so thanks for that!
Thanks ever so much Helena! I'm doing great thanks! Hope you've been doing well too, it's good to hear from you! :-) Wishing you all the best in your future journey into APP! 🙏
Hey Luke! I never realize how precise you could get with the settings in APP! Very interesting. Also I like the new logo, very cool! Thanks for the great tutorial mate! Clear Skies!
Thanks so much Dave mate!! :-D APP is a wonderful bit of kit, really happy with it since switching! :-) RE: the new logo, well spotted - Thanks my friend!
Very interesting tutorial Luke, always great to see how anybody else do their stacking with different programs. Must say that your framing of these targets is almost exact the same as mine that I did last year, but I shot it without doing a mosaic, I used the Esprit 80 and an asi2600mc, so nice widefield. It's a very beautiful area
Im gonna have to put all your tutorials in save some how. You make it all sound easy till i switch the tutorial off. Then im stuft n start again. 🤣 Thought i might catch up with things as i nearly pulled the trigger on a 11" Edge yesterday. Silly me. 🤣 Nice clearly explained tutorial Luke, good on you. Clear sky's to you.
Thanks Mel!! - I'm chuffed to hear you enjoy the vids mate, that's encouraging! :-) Re: the edge11, they are lovely scopes mate so I'd understand if your trigger finger slipped haha 😂 seriously though, I personally feel it's always best to sleep on these things for a few days if there's even a shred of doubt as there's a lot of money involved! 👍 Clear skies mate!
Just downloaded this they have a great tutorial on there website doing a 10 panel mosaic with different focal lengths 135 and 400mm. It's broken in 7 parts about 4hrs in total.
Nice job Luke. There’s always something to glean from your tutorials. I was intergrating my data last night and I kept getting warnings about unable to use ‘Master Flats,’ etc. Would love for you to explain in an upcoming video the use of making and using master flats, bias, etc. As much as APP does it’s magic in light pollution removal, last night’s image came out horribly mottled. Guess what I’m saying is too keep the tutorials coming-they’re encouraging as well as instructive and, man, do I need encouragement and instruction😊
Thank you for the info Joe!! Taking good flats can indeed be a challenge at times mate, it's something that would be a pretty tricky subject to tackle in a video though due to the huge variance in people's setups - what works for one may not work for another! I guess I could try and make a 'rules to follow for good flats' kinda vid though, that might be useful 🤔👍 Cheers!!
@@lukomatico Thanks Luke, specifically, just to clarify, I don’t understand the making and using of ‘master’ flats, etc. especially in APP. I’ve got to keep digging….
I hear you Joe 👍 you shouldn't really need to worry about that in APP as when you've loaded all the frames in and pressed integrate on panel 6 it'll go through the process of creating master calibration files for you 👍
The best stacking software out there in my opinion. Remove light pollution tool I think is way better than DBE or ABE in pixinsight . I've been using APP for a couple of years now and I think it's way better at stacking than DSS or stacking in pixinsight. Really good video Luke for anyone looking to upgrade to the best stacking software 👍
Thanks! I think I will switch back to APP for background extraction again... I have been struggling a bit with DBE on a couple images and keep putting them aside. Also I do like to save the APP rejection map just to see if and how many plane/satellite trails I have. I also tend to save the output for each session in multi session images just to see any potential differences in seeing, spot focus/guiding issues etc. Glad to see some love for APP by PI users. I thought a lot of folks were staying just in PI these days with WBPP, but APP is fantastic.
Thanks for that mate!! It's good to see you again by the way, hope you've been keeping well! 👍 I really do think APP has the best background extraction tool in the business!
Excellent video Luke. I tried APP briefly before getting Pixinsight so haven't really used it all that much, but I think I will have to revisit it as this looks very interesting. Only just recently managed to drag my self kicking and screaming away from DSS to WBPP, but have been blown away by the results. Do you find that APP gives better results compared to WBPP, or is just easier to use (or both)?
Thank you Pete!! Sorry about the late reply, this comment disappeared for a day it seems! I do find that APP gives slightly superior stacked results to WBPP for my usage case, and the remove light pollution tool is a marvel! That said, if WBPP is doing the biz for you then don't feel like you really need to switch mate! :-)
Hey Luke, back again.... So, great stacking and light pollution/gradient removal with APP. But, what about some of the tools in Siril (Netstar++) for star removal/replacement, green cast extraction and noise smoothing? In Siril, I save my image as a tiff 16bit and open in Photoshop CS6 for color tweaking and more "punch". Can I accomplish all that with APP? Thanks, Michael
Hey Michael! You can make adjustments to the colour balance within APP, and also to general saturation & contrast etc, but I think possibly your current method may be best if you're totally used to it - APP is wonderful for stacking and gradients though, for sure! All the best my friend 👍👍
Hey Luke.... I'm starting to process subs from my SeeStar in Siril for more punch, but I'm curious if AAP could do a better job. As I move into higher resolution subs from larger APOs, AM5, ASI533MC Pro, more narrow dualband filter, etc... Would AAP be a good stand alone suite of operations to stack, de-noise, repair gradients and sharpen my images? I realize Pixinsight with plug-ins, for about $600, would do more. I do have PS CS6 for some image tweaking too. Thanks as always, Michael
Hey Michael! :-) Glad to see you preparing to take the next steps, exciting times ahead!! APP is great for stacking, but I feel it falls a bit flat when it comes to processing images - I can't recommend it for that really. As you say, PixInsight & the XT tools would be the best route available but it's pricey, I feel that! As far as pure stacking is concerned, APP does beat siril, but it's also fairly costly. - swings and roundabouts! All the very best, Luke
If you've already drizzled using some other program then I don't know what you'd do in APP in that scenario my friend, I'm sorry I couldn't be more help!
Just woke up to watch the video kinda properly and the light pollution looks interesting in itself. Question for multiple night sessions, incase I missed you go over this while washing up 😂, do you just load all nights into one ‘page’ or is it like dss with different ‘pages’ for each session?
Hey there Ian! I do believe if using multi session mode then as you load in your lights etc you should load them in night by night, it'll ask you which session they were from iirc 👍 Hope that helps!! :-)
I use Siril mostly as my processing software but am looking for something to do mosaics. After you do the mosaic in APP can you export it as a FITS and will it still be in linear form?
thanks for this, is it possible to calibrate your data in WBPP, then stack it in APP, the reason I would want to do this is it just takes so long to calibrate in APP. And I'm not looking for better calibration anyway, I'm looking for better stacking of mosaics. Maybe I should just let APP do that and leave APP world for PIX world when my mosaic stack is done.
I don't know if it'd be possible mate, - i think the problem you may be facing is down to mosaic stacking itself - it takes absolutely ages on APP, but works really well haha 😅 I've compared WBPP and APP for normal stacks and I found them to be comparable in terms of speed 👍
Great video. That music...is getting to be a bit annoying and unfortunately a bit of your trademark by now. Don't think you need it... or try something different 😉
Thanks for the feedback mate!! And cheers for watching :-D Apologies if the music is grating by now haha, I use it frequently because it's pretty easy to tame and stitch together :-D (and I like it!)
Hey there! I stack in APP because I think it gives a better end result than pixinsight stacking does, I then process in pixinsight because it can take the stacked image much further than APP can 👍
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APP is my first port of call when stacking the options are vast even where I can use an OSC with dual band and separate HA from O3 and do recombinations etc. love it
The debayer algorithm is one of the best. Among other things, still among the debayer options, it allows you to separate the Ha and Oiii channels directly from an osc chamber. Do you have experience with this?
Superb to hear it mate! I'm totally in the same boat, I don't even think of stacking in anything else these days because APP just does such a good job :-)
Clear skies!
@@alfontheroad3790 Hey there mate! I'll be honest, I haven't got enough experience with that particular feature to really have much of an opinion I'm afraid - I'll have to explore it more 👍
Cheers for watching!
@@alfontheroad3790 I use it often and it works very well
Thanks Luke. Your demo of noise reduction was a revelation for me. It will change the way the I use APP.
Thanks so much for watching mate! :-) clear skies!
Been using APP 4 years and I didn't know you could run everything in one click, I sat through and clicked all the individual tasks as you say you did at the start so thanks for that!
That's a real timesaver isn't it! :-) so glad you found some use from this vid my friend 👍👍
This was excellent, Luke. Really looking to get into APP in future and this was the perfect all in one video. Hope you're well!
Thanks ever so much Helena! I'm doing great thanks! Hope you've been doing well too, it's good to hear from you! :-)
Wishing you all the best in your future journey into APP! 🙏
Your smile makes your videos worth watching every time
Aw mate that's lovely to hear, thank you! :-D
Clear skies!
Hey Luke! I never realize how precise you could get with the settings in APP! Very interesting. Also I like the new logo, very cool! Thanks for the great tutorial mate! Clear Skies!
Thanks so much Dave mate!! :-D APP is a wonderful bit of kit, really happy with it since switching! :-) RE: the new logo, well spotted - Thanks my friend!
Very nice tutorial Luke thanks for sharing your knowledge mate
@@Tony-Elliott My pleasure Tony mate!! :-) clear skies!
Very interesting tutorial Luke, always great to see how anybody else do their stacking with different programs.
Must say that your framing of these targets is almost exact the same as mine that I did last year, but I shot it without doing a mosaic, I used the Esprit 80 and an asi2600mc, so nice widefield. It's a very beautiful area
That's awesome to hear Siegfried! Glad that we've chosen really similar framing, great minds think alike! 😁👍
APP is the best for stacking IMHO and I tried them all.
Agreed Brian! I've came to the same conclusion my friend! :-)
Im gonna have to put all your tutorials in save some how. You make it all sound easy till i switch the tutorial off. Then im stuft n start again. 🤣 Thought i might catch up with things as i nearly pulled the trigger on a 11" Edge yesterday. Silly me. 🤣 Nice clearly explained tutorial Luke, good on you. Clear sky's to you.
Thanks Mel!! - I'm chuffed to hear you enjoy the vids mate, that's encouraging! :-)
Re: the edge11, they are lovely scopes mate so I'd understand if your trigger finger slipped haha 😂 seriously though, I personally feel it's always best to sleep on these things for a few days if there's even a shred of doubt as there's a lot of money involved! 👍
Clear skies mate!
Just downloaded this they have a great tutorial on there website doing a 10 panel mosaic with different focal lengths 135 and 400mm. It's broken in 7 parts about 4hrs in total.
Nice job Luke. There’s always something to glean from your tutorials. I was intergrating my data last night and I kept getting warnings about unable to use ‘Master Flats,’ etc. Would love for you to explain in an upcoming video the use of making and using master flats, bias, etc. As much as APP does it’s magic in light pollution removal, last night’s image came out horribly mottled. Guess what I’m saying is too keep the tutorials coming-they’re encouraging as well as instructive and, man, do I need encouragement and instruction😊
Thank you for the info Joe!! Taking good flats can indeed be a challenge at times mate, it's something that would be a pretty tricky subject to tackle in a video though due to the huge variance in people's setups - what works for one may not work for another!
I guess I could try and make a 'rules to follow for good flats' kinda vid though, that might be useful 🤔👍
Cheers!!
@@lukomatico Thanks Luke, specifically, just to clarify, I don’t understand the making and using of ‘master’ flats, etc. especially in APP. I’ve got to keep digging….
I hear you Joe 👍 you shouldn't really need to worry about that in APP as when you've loaded all the frames in and pressed integrate on panel 6 it'll go through the process of creating master calibration files for you 👍
The best stacking software out there in my opinion. Remove light pollution tool I think is way better than DBE or ABE in pixinsight . I've been using APP for a couple of years now and I think it's way better at stacking than DSS or stacking in pixinsight. Really good video Luke for anyone looking to upgrade to the best stacking software 👍
What can I say, agreed on all fronts Paul! APP is marvellous! :-)
So glad to hear other people enjoy it so much 👍👍
Clear skies mate!
Never tried APP looks like a great program, maybe one day when I'm brave enough to do a mosaic lol.
Haha :-D it's an excellent bit of kit mate for sure!!
P.S. Love the logo. Is there a back story on your design?
Hey Joe! Sorry mate, this comment disappeared for a day weirdly :-O
(See my email for answer 👍)
Great video thanks
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Alan!! :-) clear skies mate 👍
@lukomatico why don't you do a video on pixinsight thanks
I will do that in the future mate, cheers!! 👍
Thanks! I think I will switch back to APP for background extraction again... I have been struggling a bit with DBE on a couple images and keep putting them aside. Also I do like to save the APP rejection map just to see if and how many plane/satellite trails I have. I also tend to save the output for each session in multi session images just to see any potential differences in seeing, spot focus/guiding issues etc. Glad to see some love for APP by PI users. I thought a lot of folks were staying just in PI these days with WBPP, but APP is fantastic.
Thanks for that mate!! It's good to see you again by the way, hope you've been keeping well! 👍
I really do think APP has the best background extraction tool in the business!
Excellent video Luke. I tried APP briefly before getting Pixinsight so haven't really used it all that much, but I think I will have to revisit it as this looks very interesting. Only just recently managed to drag my self kicking and screaming away from DSS to WBPP, but have been blown away by the results. Do you find that APP gives better results compared to WBPP, or is just easier to use (or both)?
Thank you Pete!! Sorry about the late reply, this comment disappeared for a day it seems!
I do find that APP gives slightly superior stacked results to WBPP for my usage case, and the remove light pollution tool is a marvel! That said, if WBPP is doing the biz for you then don't feel like you really need to switch mate! :-)
Hello Luke, your videos are getting better every day. A big hug
Thank you Jesus! that is very kind of you to say! It's always a pleasure to hear from you my friend, hope you are keeping well!
Big hugs :-D
Hey Luke, back again.... So, great stacking and light pollution/gradient removal with APP. But, what about some of the tools in Siril (Netstar++) for star removal/replacement, green cast extraction and noise smoothing? In Siril, I save my image as a tiff 16bit and open in Photoshop CS6 for color tweaking and more "punch". Can I accomplish all that with APP? Thanks, Michael
Hey Michael! You can make adjustments to the colour balance within APP, and also to general saturation & contrast etc, but I think possibly your current method may be best if you're totally used to it - APP is wonderful for stacking and gradients though, for sure!
All the best my friend 👍👍
Thanks Luke. I am thinking about trying APP again as PI is getting a bit infuriating.....
Hey Gary! I like to use both these days, but pixinsight can be a chore for sure 😅
Luke. Great Videos. When you export stacked image to PI does it open as a non stretched image for processing with GHS. Thanks.
Thank you my friend! - it does indeed export totally unstretched, unless you choose to stretch it first 👍 Cheers!
Hey Luke.... I'm starting to process subs from my SeeStar in Siril for more punch, but I'm curious if AAP could do a better job. As I move into higher resolution subs from larger APOs, AM5, ASI533MC Pro, more narrow dualband filter, etc... Would AAP be a good stand alone suite of operations to stack, de-noise, repair gradients and sharpen my images? I realize Pixinsight with plug-ins, for about $600, would do more.
I do have PS CS6 for some image tweaking too. Thanks as always, Michael
Hey Michael! :-) Glad to see you preparing to take the next steps, exciting times ahead!!
APP is great for stacking, but I feel it falls a bit flat when it comes to processing images - I can't recommend it for that really. As you say, PixInsight & the XT tools would be the best route available but it's pricey, I feel that!
As far as pure stacking is concerned, APP does beat siril, but it's also fairly costly. - swings and roundabouts!
All the very best,
Luke
Many thanks, Luke. I truly value your recommendations. Michael
Thanks for the video. Way about If you already drizzle on integration what setting would you use ?
If you've already drizzled using some other program then I don't know what you'd do in APP in that scenario my friend, I'm sorry I couldn't be more help!
I’ve not watched yet but planning to try app for my mosaics that I’ve been unable to hide the stitch in pi. Thanks In advance 👍
That's one of this program's strong points for sure Ian!! I think you'll be very happy with your results mate 👍
Just woke up to watch the video kinda properly and the light pollution looks interesting in itself. Question for multiple night sessions, incase I missed you go over this while washing up 😂, do you just load all nights into one ‘page’ or is it like dss with different ‘pages’ for each session?
Hey there Ian! I do believe if using multi session mode then as you load in your lights etc you should load them in night by night, it'll ask you which session they were from iirc 👍
Hope that helps!! :-)
Thanks Luke, I’m going to get the trial version today and have a go with it
I use Siril mostly as my processing software but am looking for something to do mosaics. After you do the mosaic in APP can you export it as a FITS and will it still be in linear form?
Absolutely mate yeah! all my work exported from APP is kept linear and stretched in other programs :-) Hope that helps!
thanks for this, is it possible to calibrate your data in WBPP, then stack it in APP, the reason I would want to do this is it just takes so long to calibrate in APP. And I'm not looking for better calibration anyway, I'm looking for better stacking of mosaics. Maybe I should just let APP do that and leave APP world for PIX world when my mosaic stack is done.
I don't know if it'd be possible mate, - i think the problem you may be facing is down to mosaic stacking itself - it takes absolutely ages on APP, but works really well haha 😅
I've compared WBPP and APP for normal stacks and I found them to be comparable in terms of speed 👍
Great video. That music...is getting to be a bit annoying and unfortunately a bit of your trademark by now. Don't think you need it... or try something different 😉
Thanks for the feedback mate!! And cheers for watching :-D
Apologies if the music is grating by now haha, I use it frequently because it's pretty easy to tame and stitch together :-D (and I like it!)
As a beginner explain why you don’t stack in pixinsight, you used this program and then you go into pixinsight anyway.
Hey there!
I stack in APP because I think it gives a better end result than pixinsight stacking does, I then process in pixinsight because it can take the stacked image much further than APP can 👍