Places - Lost in Time: Hamilton Palace

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2022
  • Hello, and welcome back to Places - Lost in Time, a series that looks back on the tale of places and locations that have existing within living memory or photographic record, but are now lost to the pages of history.
    This week we move north of the border to Scotland, where, in one of the most tragic losses for British architectural history, we take a glimpse at Hamilton Palace, and by extension the incredibly convoluted history of the Hamilton family itself, as the fate of this influential peerage in UK politics was directly intertwined with the manner in which the opulent palace would evolve, going from its strength as the stately home of the established gentry, only for the move away from a feudal system to result in it falling into decline alongside the presence of the landowners.
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  • @triciaoflanagan8247
    @triciaoflanagan8247 Рік тому +24

    I grew up in Motherwell very close to the town of Hamilton. I didn't realise the Palace was so huge! Fascinating video. Thank you. X

    • @ironiceire
      @ironiceire Рік тому +1

      My Great-Grandfather was born in Motherwell in 1901 and later moved back to his family’s original home of Ballybay, Ireland

    • @jamesmccann8952
      @jamesmccann8952 4 місяці тому +1

      This was the biggest Palace in the U.K. and full of treasures and art worth millions, the Duke had it demolished, the family also tried to demolish the The Chateau however the Council stopped them.

  • @totallypixelated
    @totallypixelated Рік тому +10

    Excellent video. I'm a Hamilton native and I learned a lot.

  • @scottpierce3483
    @scottpierce3483 Рік тому +11

    Oh wow. The estate covered such a big area of what is now the town and beyond. Palace itself must have been an amazing building inside and out. Shame it couldn't be saved. Didn't realise that Hamilton had such a long history to it either. As a resident of Hamilton thank you for the video. The mausoleum is worth a look inside if you can. As well as the hunting lodge in Chatelherault Country Park.

  • @barrydysert2974
    @barrydysert2974 Рік тому +8

    Acktually... Hamilton met Hess on two occasions after He landed in Britain. i literally just watched Hess's biography on The People Profiles.
    i love Your content. Keep up the good work !:-)
    🙏💜⚡️

  • @MrLukealbanese
    @MrLukealbanese Рік тому +7

    Superb video, well done.

  • @DKS225
    @DKS225 Рік тому +12

    Had Hamilton Palace still existed it may have ended up in the ownership of either Hamilton Town Council Or The National Trust. Much like Polsden Lacey in Surrey which i found very beautiful when i visited there as it wasn't far from where my Aunt Maureen lives In Bookham.

  • @chaser5201
    @chaser5201 Рік тому +2

    Your places lost in time series is top tier. Thank you

  • @dystopik32
    @dystopik32 Рік тому +4

    more quality content, well done sir

  • @kimpintar8787
    @kimpintar8787 Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much 😊🙏
    Wonderful to hear more about my Hamilton ancestors 🥰
    I am a descendant of the Hamiltons of Raploch, Earls of Arran and Dukes of Abercorn 🇦🇺🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤

  • @barbadosantigua1
    @barbadosantigua1 Рік тому +3

    Born and raised in Hamilton I think this is an excellent video, often while at Beckford Street primary school we would visit the mausoleum it was always a great day out. My great gran Marion Lavery nee Lindsey lived across the road from the palace in Muor Street. I would love to see a video on the other side of the coin re the miners. My grandfather would tell me stories of the wealth of the dukes and the poverty of the people working down the coal mines, I had a great great uncle killed in the mines or pits as they called them

  • @martinmcaskill3411
    @martinmcaskill3411 Рік тому +7

    I currently work at chatlaurue country park as a gardener and this gave me a whole new perspective of my work place , great video.

  • @1951GL
    @1951GL Рік тому +3

    Fascinating.

  • @ctyl5686
    @ctyl5686 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video, thank you.

  • @Smithy67
    @Smithy67 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting thank you

  • @BorisLu
    @BorisLu Рік тому +3

    Great video!

  • @TheDonnellymarie
    @TheDonnellymarie 4 місяці тому

    My parents were natives of Hamilton. I still have family living up there. My dad was a walking history book of his home town.

  • @rebeccahamilton-james9914
    @rebeccahamilton-james9914 Рік тому

    Thank you for this video. My heritage is part of this Hamilton line, so is interesting to have the history listed out clearly.

  • @X9Z17
    @X9Z17 Рік тому +3

    Great video!
    I suggest all the World Fair Exhibition/World's Columbian Exposition buildings? The Melbourne one is still up, others got taken down; and you've covered the Crystal Palace already.
    Another thing is the Coffee Palace of Melbourne (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Coffee_Palace), something I never knew existed and looks awesome! I ended up down a Coffee Palace rabbithole and am saddened to find none still exist in Perth 😫😫

  • @jonathanirwin427
    @jonathanirwin427 2 місяці тому

    cracking video 👏🏼

  • @Twmpa
    @Twmpa Рік тому +1

    Hamilton Palace is just one of approximately 1500 country mansions and ducal palaces that were demolished in the century or so up to around 1975 after a 19th century change in tax laws which, along with increasing labour costs meant they became increasingly huge financial liabilities for their owners. This trend was only stopped in the 1970s by an increasing campaign movement for the preservation of what were often significant parts of British history.

  • @em66nz
    @em66nz Рік тому +1

    Yet i've read that the coal actually under where the palace stood was not actually mined until the 1950's. Coal mining and subsidence was inferred as a convenient excuse. But the narration does very accurately emphasize the slow decline over the years in the palace's fortunes, it was not just one event that sealed its fate. If only, in the 1920's, the building could have found another use but at that time it was the classic white elephant. My family, having been tenants of the Duke of Hamilton till 1910, held the Duke in high esteem (even met him & the Duchess once in person) and always deeply regretted that the palace had been demolished.

    • @JP_TaVeryMuch
      @JP_TaVeryMuch Рік тому +1

      What is it with large country seats and the coal industry? I'm thinking of course of Wentworth Woodhouse further south and the pitiable 'revenge on the nobs' enacted by the National Coal Board whose open cast workings went right up to the front door and apparently for little return.
      For lovers of beautiful architecture regardless of the politics of its construction, what happened to Hamilton Palace is of course ultimately worse.

  • @DrivermanO
    @DrivermanO Рік тому +3

    Interesting. Excellent video - but one minor point. James II of England was James VII (seventh) of Scotland - not sixth!

  • @MartinFarrell1972
    @MartinFarrell1972 8 місяців тому +1

    Last time I was there i visited the overgown Keeper's house. It would be good to try and save this building

  • @ErraticPT
    @ErraticPT Рік тому +2

    Its a shame many such grand houses/ palaces were destroyed for nothing more than greed and incompetence.
    Either by inheritance tax or greedy developers building nothing but tastless housing projects to ruin areas to make a quick buck, these sometimes obscene but often historicaly important buildings/estates fates were unfortunately sealed.

    • @onyertod
      @onyertod 10 місяців тому +1

      You could argue that it was greed and total contempt for fellow human beings that financed the original construction of these palaces.

  • @sgilbert5753
    @sgilbert5753 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for the history lesson. Might you be able to explain where the monies came from for the building of such houses?

  • @darinbhoy
    @darinbhoy Рік тому +3

    We refer to Cadzow as "cadzey" and the Palace was the "paylis" our old town here has its own way of saying things, whether that's how they are pronounced or not that's how I always said them.

    • @christopherkennedy314
      @christopherkennedy314 11 місяців тому

      And the Palace as a gid night oot😂

    • @MrGoldenV
      @MrGoldenV 10 місяців тому

      We say "Cadzey" or "Cadgy" because in old Scots language the Z is pronounced "you" like "Cad-you" so you're correct. It's kinda like Menzies is actually pronounced "minguss"

    • @barbarasamson3723
      @barbarasamson3723 9 місяців тому +1

      In the 50s, when we played in the Palace Grounds, we used to come across pieces of carved marble from the building's decorations.
      I think the old (drowned) village of Bothwellhaugh was called "the Pailis" after the Pailis colliery.
      One of the Dukes competed against King Charles 2nd in collecting works of art from all over Europe.( Some of these are now in the USA eg Smithsonian museum.)
      Bought on the backs of workers' hard graft.😢

    • @allrounder7003
      @allrounder7003 2 місяці тому

      Don't know if it's local but the horsey set say Shatleyroe.

  • @adrianrutterford762
    @adrianrutterford762 Рік тому +6

    Coffee Break viewing sorted

  • @heavensangel952
    @heavensangel952 Рік тому

    James Hamilton 1st Duke of Hamilton and order of the garter 1630 was my 10th great grandfather

  • @CourtneyPielok
    @CourtneyPielok Рік тому +1

    Such a shame it was demolished =[

  • @connorcoleman0379
    @connorcoleman0379 Рік тому +1

    Should do hellinikon airport in Athens next

  • @sgilbert5753
    @sgilbert5753 7 місяців тому

    I heard you mention coal fields, but was coal sufficient an income source for so many of the buildings of such palatial houses?

  • @Mitch-Hendren
    @Mitch-Hendren Рік тому

    Excellent stuff you've really done your research. Just one thing Cadzow is pronounced with a silent z ...... cad-ow the ow like you mutter if You hurt yourself rhymes with cow😁

    • @totallypixelated
      @totallypixelated Рік тому +4

      I'm from Hamilton and I've always heard it pronounced with the z. Cad-zoe.

  • @begbieyabass
    @begbieyabass 7 місяців тому

    Is it for Sale ?? How much would it be worth

  • @tomclarkson2826
    @tomclarkson2826 6 місяців тому

    James the 2nd of England was James 7th of Scotland not the 6th as said in the video.

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 Рік тому

    Hess on his flight to Britain in 1941 was trying to to get to see the Duke of Hamilton.

  • @cpt_bill366
    @cpt_bill366 Рік тому +1

    A whole family of bad ideas! Was there no one along the way to ask any of these people, "Could you just not?" It is truly mind boggling how some people can squander the wealth and opportunity given to them.

  • @SoylentBlack1
    @SoylentBlack1 3 місяці тому

    i can see the top of the mausoleum from my bedroom window

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch Рік тому +3

    I know that you have no 'say' in the subtitles, but on this particular occasion they are woeful, truly awful. My favourite misnomer so far is this word which is a whole step further down the staircase of laziness: pyrdom for peerdom (3:22 peerage surely, anyway) as the word doesn't even exist. Others include past for palace (2:57) marcus for Marquis (3:03) and martinez for Marchioness (3:44)! The 'couldn't care less as long as we can boast how inclusive we are' attitude of their Graces the Dooks of You Tube have considerably out-done themselves this time.

  • @MrTam63
    @MrTam63 9 місяців тому

    The Hamiltons seemed to be a bit of a jinx family

  • @peterbradshaw8018
    @peterbradshaw8018 Рік тому

    The family married into the house of Grimaldi the ruling house of Monaco.

  • @margaretg711
    @margaretg711 Рік тому

    I would like to know who the trustees were who actively sought to have the palace ruined by coal workings?

  • @e28forever30
    @e28forever30 Рік тому

    Thank you, computer voice.

  • @nicolek4076
    @nicolek4076 Рік тому +1

    "Absentia" is pronounced "abSENTia". "Exacerbate" means "make worse". So, "...exacerbate the fortune he spent ..." is nonsense.

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 Рік тому

      There’s some glitches in this computer voice for sure.

  • @charlesscottkelly
    @charlesscottkelly 7 місяців тому

    Total vandalism..

  • @CourtneyPielok
    @CourtneyPielok Рік тому

    the 9th OF March 1649. You're British so speak properly.

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 Рік тому

      He’s not British, he is electronic.
      Bits and bytes.

  • @MsCablegal
    @MsCablegal 4 місяці тому

    i tried so hard to listen, but i got so irritated listening to an english accent talk about ( what once was ) a very important Scottish town, and mispronouce so many words, thank goodnes for subtitles and mute buttons

  • @davidl1969
    @davidl1969 Рік тому

    Very disappointing video. This isn't the Hamilton Palace that many Scots in the Central Belt knew and loved.

    • @brianconnelly7823
      @brianconnelly7823 10 місяців тому

      You have to be a certain age and native to get what you're saying here 😂

  • @chaser5201
    @chaser5201 Рік тому +1

    Your places lost in time series is top tier. Thank you