Places - Lost in Time: Crumlin Viaduct

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  • @kevatcrewe
    @kevatcrewe Рік тому +129

    Can I take a minute to say this channel is epic, please keep it going, I love the way you never quite know what the next upload will be focused on, it always makes my day and never dissapoints whatever the subject is!

    • @thomlinford
      @thomlinford Рік тому +2

      Couldn't agree more - always makes my Saturday afternoon a bit more interesting

    • @AshLilburne
      @AshLilburne Рік тому +2

      And nearly at 100k subscribers now too!

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Рік тому +2

      Hear hear! 👍

    • @mirmis
      @mirmis Рік тому +1

      Spot on!

  • @gc7820
    @gc7820 Рік тому +32

    As a miner my grandfather (fathers side) was in a reserved occupation during WW2 but joined the home guard and had to patrol across crumlin viaduct at nights when he was on homeguard duty. My later to be grandmother in order to get a ‘date’ with him used to spend a few hours on such an evening walking across it arm in arm with him - probably not strictly within the army regulations.

  • @luvparc6787
    @luvparc6787 Рік тому +21

    So cool to watch a mini doc on a place you pass through everyday, something very unexpected! I'm only 28 so I never got to experience it standing but I've stood at the one side of where it would've stopped and it is such an epic view across to the other side, would've been great to cross over it!

  • @chrismackey9267
    @chrismackey9267 Рік тому +11

    My cousin, David, was a Bevin Boy working in the Oakdale Colliery, Blackwood, and ran a football team that played home games nearby the Crumlin Viaduct. As a teenager I began work as a surveyor with Ordnance Survey who were remapping the coal mining areas of South Wales. I was based in Pontypridd in the late 50's, early 60's and it was a long trek home to Torquay via the Aust Ferry or round Gloucester so I would visit David at weekends. I played quite a number of games with his team, and always, as a railway buff, found it a thrill, and even a bit scary I must admit, playing nearly beneath that structure while trains were still passing over it. We used to meet in a cafe before matches and play the flipper machines while drinking coffee. Evenings were spent in Blackwood at the cinema where the tickets cost about 9d or 1/- which was so cheap compared with Torbay at the time.
    This video brought back brilliant memories of those days.

  • @Tobeshadow
    @Tobeshadow Рік тому +6

    Superb film! My father grew up in the shadow of this beauty. We have pictures he took on his Box Brownie when Gregory Peck and Sophia Loren came to film Arabesque. A wonderful structure and a crime that it was lost!

  • @flippop101
    @flippop101 Рік тому +6

    Once again, quality UA-cam viewing. Thank you for another superb video.

  • @e020443
    @e020443 Рік тому +2

    Excellent documentary, as usual. Thanks.

  • @macjim
    @macjim Рік тому +18

    It’s sad they didn’t keep the first pier as a memorial to the bridge and railway line rather remove everything but that’s hindsight for you.
    I noted the use of destruction in your commentary rather than demolition… very apt.

  • @Ryan-31
    @Ryan-31 Рік тому +12

    Being from nearby Caerphilly and having to visit Crumlin countless times over the years this was a nice surprise to see on your channel. Great quality video as always. ☺️👍

  • @jasongray6437
    @jasongray6437 Рік тому +2

    Amazing to see a local lost landmark covered.

  • @Brommear
    @Brommear Рік тому +1

    Nice video! I just love the steam era with Brunel being my favourite. I live in Chile and the 335ft high Malleco viaduct, constructed in the 1890s, is still in use!
    Thank you also for not putting music on a documentary video!

  • @EntertainmentWorldz
    @EntertainmentWorldz Рік тому

    super great train video bro ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @limeyfox
    @limeyfox Рік тому +10

    Really good video! One minor note on Welsh pronunciation, if it’s spelt ‘goed’ it’s spoken ‘goyd’ - therefore Hengoed and Bargoed are pronounced ‘Hen-goyd’ and ‘Bar-goyd’ etc.

    • @philldavies7940
      @philldavies7940 10 місяців тому

      its a synthetic voice, not a human narrator.

  • @terrymoore9388
    @terrymoore9388 Рік тому

    Another brilliant video. Thanks

  • @Olleetheowl
    @Olleetheowl Рік тому +10

    I live at Ilkeston, Derbyshire. We have our own still standing viaduct.built almost identically. Although only 60 ft high. It is 1/4 Mile long and called “Bennerley Viaduct”. Many videos on You Tube. And well worth a look

  • @johncunnane1582
    @johncunnane1582 Рік тому

    marvelous viaduct, explained by a marvelous video, thanks Ruairidh

  • @macjim
    @macjim Рік тому +18

    While building the bridge out of iron reduced the cost, it wasn’t a guarantee of strength as we have seen in the past.
    Crossing a valley, especially as deep as this one, brought its own problems.
    There’s the remains of an iron bridge in the USA which was blown down in a gale (worth covering, the Kinzua Bridge) and, for another example, the Tay Bridge Mk 1.

    • @emilyadams3228
      @emilyadams3228 Рік тому +3

      It's the Kinzua Bridge in Pennsylvania.

    • @MrRichUK
      @MrRichUK Рік тому +2

      @@emilyadams3228 It was one of the subjects featured in the TV series called 'Abandoned Engineering'.

  • @johntucker6906
    @johntucker6906 2 місяці тому

    I recall travelling over this viaduct when going to Pontypool from Mountain Ash.

  • @anthonystevens8683
    @anthonystevens8683 Рік тому +2

    Great history and technical detail wonderfully articulated for this video. Many thanks for sharing.

  • @whetstonebridge4801
    @whetstonebridge4801 Рік тому +4

    Fantastic channel. Always something new and interesting presented in a really professional way.

  • @pacz8114
    @pacz8114 Рік тому

    Thank you. I've learnt a great deal.

  • @petergibbs
    @petergibbs Рік тому

    My father was based at Pontypool just after the war on the GWR/Western region as a fireman and always spoke with a smile when he mentioned the Crumlin viaduct.

  • @Dave_Sisson
    @Dave_Sisson Рік тому +6

    It looks a lot like the Taradale Viaduct in Victoria. Australia. It was also built in the 1850s and still carries a main line today. It has its own Wikipedia page.

  • @usmale49
    @usmale49 Рік тому +2

    Great video! I would have liked to see it, but since its demise, that will not be possible. Thank you for creating, uploading and sharing!!

  • @melodymonger
    @melodymonger Рік тому +2

    Fascinating, thank you 🙂

  • @silvanski
    @silvanski Рік тому +1

    Fine documentary about an impressive feat of construction

  • @bullnukeoldman3794
    @bullnukeoldman3794 Рік тому +2

    Ruairidh - I have been perusing your videos for a few weeks now and all have been excellent. The clear and concise history presented as well as your commentary, sometimes fairly biting when explaining the backstories of the history, is thoroughly enjoyed by this old man in Western Ohio. Marvelous or, as folks say over there in "Jolly Old", brilliant stuff. Keep it coming, my friend.

  • @laurenceskinnerton73
    @laurenceskinnerton73 Рік тому

    Fascinating.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains
    @Clivestravelandtrains Рік тому

    Wonderful Ruairidh, well worth getting out of bed for this morning. Thanks for your time and effort in making this film. I have always admired civil engineers.

  • @lauriecooper8194
    @lauriecooper8194 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant video Ruairidh, I've seen lots of photographs of the viaduct but hadn't previously realised that it consisted of two separate sections. Thanks for posting this.

  • @jeffkibby1678
    @jeffkibby1678 Рік тому +1

    The Crumlin Viaduct Works Company Limited produced the ironwork for the Crumlin Viaduct, they also produced the ironwork for the first Blackfriars Railway Bridge for the London, Chatham and Dover Railway, 120 bridges in Buenos Aires, Argentina, 69 bridges for the Rome and Ancona Railway in Italy, 5 multi-span bridges for railways in India, a 17-span bridge in Pernambuco, Brazil as well as bridges in New Ross, Ireland, the Murray River, Australia and Wolkoff for the Great Russian Railway.

  • @nemo6686
    @nemo6686 Рік тому +1

    What a cycle track it would've made - like a pier with no show at the end and a big, hard drop if you fall off!

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому +3

    After the Tay Bridge disaster the government set up the Wind Pressure (Railway Structures) Commission. This commission reported back in May 1881. They determined that a wind speed that gave a pressure of 28lb/ft^2 was the maximum a train would allowed to encounter on a viaduct and that the viaduct had to be strong enough to withstand a pressure double that. Hence the stopping of traffic in high winds on viaducts.
    The entire railway network had suffered neglect during WW2 and its aftermath. The problem with metal bridges is they suffer from metal fatigue, by the 1950s a well known if not fully understood issue for bridge builders. This bridge and lines like it were in desperate need of strengthening if they were to survive, but with falling traffic levels BR couldn't afford to do this work. The rot set in long before Beeching came along with a government preventing BR from raising prices whilst costs went up. If it wasn't for Beeching we wouldn't have half the railway we still have.

  • @Froobyone
    @Froobyone Рік тому +1

    Always fascinating material.

  • @KR4FTW3RK
    @KR4FTW3RK Рік тому +9

    Wow what a nice bridge! Shame it was torn down.

  • @lostlandmarks8305
    @lostlandmarks8305 Рік тому +2

    Wonderful work.

  • @frostycola42
    @frostycola42 Рік тому +3

    i live near crumlin and it is a nice village.

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 Рік тому +5

    This photo illustrates something well, the dead load of the bridge is usually an order of magnitude larger than potential dynamic loads 11:05

  • @villiamo3861
    @villiamo3861 Рік тому

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 Рік тому +4

    Nice upload, will need to check but this viaduct might share the engineer with another similar but shorter viaduct of that had to have less weight on its foundation. It crossed a flood plane that had underground coal mines, it recently got a full restoration but it shares a lot in its design. What a sight this one would have been though, shame this one was lost.
    Edit - Checked Bennerley viaduct didn't share the same engineer but is essentially the same design and materials, there is another viaduct on the edge of Dartmoor, near Okehampton that also has the engineering and materials in common. These are the last two but are scheduled Monuments and kept maintained, shame this one was too far gone.

  • @charliescott7764
    @charliescott7764 Рік тому +3

    Lovely structure. Thanks for in depth technical explanations and moving pictures. Thank heaven they over engineered the Forth Rail Bridge to ensure its permanence. Maybe try a documentary about Bouch's spindly designs for Forth suspension rail bridge or the Solway Firth bridge

  • @RHTeebs
    @RHTeebs Рік тому +10

    This was absolutely fantastic! Might I suggest you do a video on the Kinzua Bridge in Northwest Pennsylvania next? That was quite an important bridge in my area back in the day. Used to connect the Erie main line from New York to Chicago. A big wind storm blew it down in 2003.

    • @villiamo3861
      @villiamo3861 Рік тому

      That's a fascinating story. I'm sure you've seen various documentaries about it, but some, such as Discovery ones etc, can be almost unwatchable due to their hyping style. A really good one, focusing straightforwardly on the engineering problems arising with the stiffener plates etc (consequent to some degree on a mid-life restructuring?), was produced by The Open University a while ago. The OU's link isn't very good, but if you google "open university kinzua's weakest link", and instead follow the Apple podcast link (although it says it's for iphones, it works fine on Android), third podcast down is a 10 min vid that's very interesting.

    • @RHTeebs
      @RHTeebs Рік тому

      ​@@villiamo3861 that's why I want Mr. MacVeigh to do the Kinzua bridge. Because most documentaries always over-do it.

    • @villiamo3861
      @villiamo3861 Рік тому

      @@RHTeebs Suggest you look at the OU one; nothing overkeyed there. But, yes, an RMV one would be welcome, too.

  • @wurzelle1999
    @wurzelle1999 Рік тому

    An excellent video! Da iawn.

  • @ivorwhitecar
    @ivorwhitecar Рік тому

    That was excellent, thank you.

  • @DaiElsan
    @DaiElsan Рік тому

    I saw this a few times. Saw Arabesque being filmed on it. Saw it being demolished. Sad end to a spectacular sight. I was 4 years old in 1965. It memory is as fresh to day as it'll I'd seen only yesterday.

  • @majorberk4647
    @majorberk4647 Рік тому

    Great Channel . Great range of engineering subjects too.

  • @allenharris1069
    @allenharris1069 Рік тому

    I remember it well. We used to live in Trinant in the early 60's and used to play on the viaduct before it was destroyed. Jumping the gaps in the planks on the cat walk being one of the favourites . Don't try this at home kids !

  • @LearnwithJanice
    @LearnwithJanice Рік тому +1

    Hello from Kansas🇺🇸

  • @chrisoddy8744
    @chrisoddy8744 Рік тому +4

    If you haven't done an episode on Belah Viaduct and the Stainmore line, that's a solid concept

  • @stardestroyeruk7025
    @stardestroyeruk7025 Рік тому

    I grew up in the south wales valleys (Caerau/Maesteg) we had so many amazing, beautiful left over buildings, tunnels and bridges form the railway era.... most are now being demolished and removed its very sad to see this history of rail and coal disappearing :(

  • @amp9930
    @amp9930 Рік тому

    Excellent !

  • @jimdieseldawg3435
    @jimdieseldawg3435 Рік тому

    Hi 🙂 Along similar lines there was a tall spindly viaduct on the Halesowen to Longbridge branch but it also succumbed to demolition. Tends to be remembered by local folks due to works trains for employees of “The Austin” running across it for many years 🙂 That branch is probably worth a story of its own, particularly if you were to include the Longbridge plant’s internal network and the block trains of parts that lasted long enough for EWS Class 66s to be regular traction in the final days. I very much enjoy your balanced and well-researched content, sir 🙂

  • @christopherkennedy314
    @christopherkennedy314 Рік тому

    Broomhill Viaduct in Larkhall (South Lanarkshire) which still stands today was the highest viaduct in Scotland. Three miles along the now disused railway line lay also the longest spanning viaduct which was blown up during the mid 1980s.

  • @dazrich
    @dazrich Місяць тому

    my nan, bless her soul. told me a german plane flew under the viaduct in wartime when i was a kid!
    im 50 now and she passed just over 2yrs ago 91 years young and still sharp as a pin.
    im sure she wouldnt have made it up.
    vida and peter richards...nan and dado RIP XX

  • @None-zc5vg
    @None-zc5vg Рік тому +1

    The viaduct was used for location shots at the end of the picture "Arabesque", made ca. 1966. Actress Sophia Loren may have actually set foot on it during a chase scene.

    • @davidlewis2626
      @davidlewis2626 Рік тому

      My father was station master at Crumlin High Level in the mid 1950s. I walked that bridge with him many times , both at rail level and the catwalk where you see Loren and Peck running.

  • @idrislewis6896
    @idrislewis6896 Рік тому +1

    My father started in Llanhilleth Colliery in 1936 aged 14. He spent first night of WW2 on ARP duty at one end of Crumlin Viaduct. No mention in video of the ammunition trains from the nearby Ordnance factory crossing the viaduct, apparently there are some bomb craters up there but I guess target too difficult for Germans at that stage. I went to school daily on train on that line from Treown crossing Hengoed Viaduct.

  • @shtehfaw
    @shtehfaw Рік тому +2

    Pretty sure the most famous use of Welsh coal was letting Henry steam up before he got his new shape 🙂

  • @craigsibley8161
    @craigsibley8161 Рік тому

    Good stuff 👍👍👍

  • @kineticdeath
    @kineticdeath Рік тому +2

    all these places around the world where people are living without a clue of some of the structures that once dominated their towns/regions, that there is color footage of this bridge, but barely a physical trace of it ever existing is so weird

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 Рік тому

    Well, i never knew, thanks.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 Рік тому

      I now live in industrialist Thomas Hill's former home (1770's) , i believe he made his business mining in south Wales, so this part of the world.

  • @Andrewjg_89
    @Andrewjg_89 Рік тому

    Now that’s something from the extraordinary. That viaduct is absolutely tall and thin. Where was this taken.

  • @pistol_price
    @pistol_price Місяць тому

    I grew up on the sofrydd side now i raise my own family on the opposite side of the viaduct in treowen 😊

  • @aiferapple1246
    @aiferapple1246 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant video, Hengoed is pronounced Hen-Goid

    • @ajbonmg
      @ajbonmg Рік тому +2

      And Rhymney is pronounce 'Rum-nee'. I was trying to decide whether the entire commentary is computer generated speech.

  • @macjim
    @macjim Рік тому +1

    Might I suggest another railway bridge to be looked at, and that was the one that crossed over the Solway Firth… another bridge lost in time.

  • @robertbalazslorincz8218
    @robertbalazslorincz8218 Рік тому

    Nice.

  • @monumentstosuffering2995
    @monumentstosuffering2995 Рік тому +1

    Imagine living beneath the crumblin' viaduct. My crowning achievement was Goring and Streatley Bridges over the Thames. Hasn't required the slightest maintenance in 30 years. Not even paintwork. Quality.

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman Рік тому +1

    I wonder if any of the deck was preserved.
    I would've left one of the piers, probably the Isabella Pier, standing. That's a compromise between "We must preserve this, it's historically significant" and "We must destroy this, it's expensive to maintain and useless".

  • @jjqq9456
    @jjqq9456 Рік тому

    1857-1965 worth every penny the same as the Kinzua bridge which lasted 121 years ❤❤

  • @fistsofham8474
    @fistsofham8474 Рік тому +2

    It's a shame they hadn't the money to preserve this historic structure, even if it was completely understandable.
    As an aside, at 14:00 It's probably worth mentioning that in addition to the expanding road network, new roads were of particular importance to this area at the time because rubber wheels allow you to make use of roads that are much steeper than railways can achieve, negating the need for this sort of structure in the first place.

  • @Scots_Diesel
    @Scots_Diesel Рік тому +2

    How about doing a series on lost bridges, such as the lost other Forth bridge at Alloa or the huge trestle bridge on the Stainmore line.

  • @peterallam6494
    @peterallam6494 Рік тому

    14/4 23, When does a structure stop as a Bridge & become a Viaduct ? Span is obviously longer on Viaducts. Would like to have an lan Allan abc type spotters book for all these remaining UK structures still in use. Monuments to their Builders.

  • @donwright3427
    @donwright3427 Рік тому

    Nice good da iawn

  • @PositionLight
    @PositionLight Рік тому

    You should do something related to the Lackawanna Cutoff (either one).

  • @steamgent4592
    @steamgent4592 Рік тому

    That was one long program on just a bridge. Interesting though.

  • @me37631
    @me37631 7 місяців тому

    As a 10 year old I watched the viaduct being demolished. One of the cables from a tower to a winch on the side of the hill snapped and hit an elderly man standing near me on his head. It caused a huge gash and there was lots ion blood. I don’t know if he survived.

  • @robertwilloughby8050
    @robertwilloughby8050 Рік тому

    Can you do something on the bus company Jones of Aberbeeg? One of the few independent UK bus companies that ended up in the National Bus Company (sounds of Angels singing!) and retained their blue livery amongst the NBC Poppy Red and NBC Leaf Green, until it was finally killed by the creation of National Welsh in 1979.

  • @dougstubbs9637
    @dougstubbs9637 Рік тому +2

    16:00 “The Ministry of Housniz ……it was spelt like that on the Van “…

    • @kimvibk9242
      @kimvibk9242 Рік тому +1

      Thanks, Doug - you know your classics! 👍

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson Рік тому +2

      One politician was on the hustings when someone shouted at him "What are you going to do about 'ousing." The famous reply was "put an H in front of it".

  • @jontydenton1201
    @jontydenton1201 Рік тому +1

    Jeez the colour of the river on colour film….

  • @INTERCITY225
    @INTERCITY225 Рік тому +1

    In Motion history can you do the class 91 please.

  • @macjim
    @macjim Рік тому

    You should do a places lost in time covering Westminster, there’s a place that’s most definitely living in the wrong century 🥸🤣

  • @Stubwood_on_YT
    @Stubwood_on_YT Рік тому +1

    Soo close to 100k

  • @jantyszka1036
    @jantyszka1036 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting information about a fascinating structure. What's the betting British Rail inflated the cost of preservation, making demolition the best option? That's how they justified closure of the old North East line from Barnard Castle to Tebay over Stainmore summit. Belah Viaduct was the victim here. Of course, Transport Minister Ernest Marples owning a company which built motorways might have had something to do with it, too.

  • @maunsell24
    @maunsell24 Місяць тому

    I beg to differ re your statement that Crumlin "was by far the highest railway viaduct ever built in Britain." You are forgetting Belah Viaduct on the South Durham and Lancashire Union Railway over Stainmore summit. It was completed 3 years later and was only 4ft lower (196ft v 200ft). Like Crumlin it succumbed to demolition after the line was closed. Belah went in 1963: Crumlin in 1967.

  • @martyn6792
    @martyn6792 Рік тому

    Such a shame that all we have left is a few videos

  • @stuartwilliams3164
    @stuartwilliams3164 Рік тому +2

    Pity about the pronounceation of Welsh words but very good film

  • @sitishahara7693
    @sitishahara7693 Рік тому

    Hi!

  • @Dan_Gyros
    @Dan_Gyros Рік тому +1

    ok so not related to the video at all but how tf do you pronounce ur first name? I've been trying to figure it out for years. Keep doing the wonderful job ur doing btw, I love ur content

    • @stewy62
      @stewy62 Рік тому +2

      Rory (Ruairidh is the Gaelic spelling)

    • @Dan_Gyros
      @Dan_Gyros Рік тому +1

      @@stewy62 interesting and wacky, I love it! thank you! I was thinking like a Rudyard situation but I had no idea

  • @a11csc
    @a11csc Рік тому

    a web of lies tore down a lovely structure

  • @craker4658
    @craker4658 Рік тому +1

    7/10 for your Welsh pronunciations

  • @seany84uk
    @seany84uk Рік тому

    Something of this scale would take 10 years to build now lol

  • @Kaiser_Kenny
    @Kaiser_Kenny Рік тому +5

    Am I able to mail you a new microphone?

    • @Kaiser_Kenny
      @Kaiser_Kenny Рік тому

      I will give you a Blue Snowball for free.

    • @thirtysixnanoseconds1086
      @thirtysixnanoseconds1086 Рік тому +5

      i love the microphone sounds old like the footage

    • @m.streicher8286
      @m.streicher8286 Рік тому +1

      the audio does seem a little worse than average in this one

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel Рік тому +1

      ​@@m.streicher8286 the last few have been like this.

    • @Loehengrin
      @Loehengrin Рік тому +3

      Will it help his pronunciation of Welsh place names?

  • @Nastyswimmer
    @Nastyswimmer Рік тому

    Not "by far the highest" - just by four feet. The Belah viaduct in Cumberland was 196 feet high

  • @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels
    @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels Рік тому

    I think the viaduct should be rebuilt, regardless of cost or utility.

  • @alanlord399
    @alanlord399 11 місяців тому

    An interesting video considering the material available. Have spent my youth in Ebbw Vale I managed to see it before it was pulled down. How many words per minute does the narrator manage. God he must have been out of breath. The pronunciation of local place names would have been so so much better had the producer spoken to someone who lived there.

  • @georgebodley8068
    @georgebodley8068 23 дні тому

    Doesn't mean cromlech.

  • @lyndongingell1445
    @lyndongingell1445 Рік тому

    Great video and informative but you pronunciation of place names could do with a bit of work 😊

  • @georgebodley8068
    @georgebodley8068 7 місяців тому

    Hengoed not Hengood pronounced Hen Goed as in (goed)elic .

  • @BernardCastle
    @BernardCastle Рік тому +2

    Please work on your Welsh pronunciation. That said, I thought this was an excellent and informative video.

  • @willwallacetree
    @willwallacetree Рік тому

    Lady Isabella Fitzmaurice was married to a guy called Lord Maurice Fitzisabella. . . . . . . . . . . I'll get my coat

  • @e28forever30
    @e28forever30 Рік тому +1

    The synthetic voice still speaks way too fast, which gets on my nerves after a couple of minutes…