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Imagining the Jon Snow Sequel for Game of Thrones
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2022
- According to a Hollywoodreporter article the latest leaked spinoff for
Game of Thrones is a show centred around Jon Snow living beyond the wall
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UPDATE: this seems to be Kit Harington's idea
He knows nothing.
Oh wow, that changes the dynamics a bit, I wonder if he has an idea as to how the show could work.
Bro needs a job lol, however this could be good
The man’s set to play Black Knight in the MCU…I think people who are saying “he needs a job” are vastly underestimating the amount of planning that goes into the MCU, if they cast him as Black Knight (which they did) then they have plans to incorporate him into future projects or give the character his own Disney+ series or a full on movie.
If Kit is pushing for this Jon Snow sequel, I genuinely think he’s trying to rid his career of the stain that was season 8 of GoT and give that character and story a more satisfying conclusion. He does not need to come back for the money the man has made endless boat loads of it, and he’s basically all but secured more boats of money through the MCU.
His motivations for trying to get this sequel series done has to be wipe that stain off of his career, because believe me season 8 of GoT was a big fat stain on the careers of many of those actors. I think Emilia Clarke was the only one who seems to have come out the other end more or less unscathed.
You know nothing, Kit Harrington
The show would have one episode, where it starts with Jon saying: “oh ya I forgot that Tormond said there was nothing to hunt due to the White Walkers turning them all.”
And also the fact that it’s still cold as balls and any crops that we plant today won’t be ready for another few months.
Then they’ll either all starve to death or return back to the north.
To be fair though I’ve never heard of the free folk planting crops, I could be wrong but I don’t remember there being any mention of them planting crops.
The Thens are super civilized in the books compared to the other wildlings and live in the Valley of Then a green valley north of everyone and I believe they panted crops in it
Maybe I'm the rarity but I'm actually pretty excited to see more of the North of the Wall. There's so much more to explore.
The lore is still great and has much to uncover, but imagine post S8 Jon with his brain dead dialogue and characterization exploring such a place? Jesus, he might trip on a pile of rocks and think it's fucking King's Landing. Might as well watch a documentary of early homo sapiens or something, it will probably bring better closure.
Like what? It’s just gonna be the same sets of snow and rocks we’ve seen already, there will be no new creatures, they can’t afford it, this sequel will suck.
@@sands201 Yeah I bet most of the budget will be kits paycheque
I think it's a 50/50
@@sands201 now that they aren't covering dragons, Westeros & Essos they could afford to show the other creatures.
If it’s true that Kit is pushing for this to happen which seems to be the case, I honestly think he has to have nothing but good intentions in mind…he’s already made boat loads of money and he’s set to play Black Knight in the future of the MCU. I think he’s fully aware that season 8 of GoT left a permanent stain on his career because of how bad of a script he was given, it just didn’t reflect good on him in general.
I genuinely think he is trying to patch up the end of GoT, and give Jon’s character a more satisfying ending so that he can really move on.
An what about Danny as him an Emilia Clarke are good friends as is his wife Rose Lesley Emilia has come out saying she has spoken with Kitt Harrington about this an confirmed it asked if she would be willing to come back Or is she done with dragons she said she wouldn't but with a laugh as we all know Emilia has a great sense of humor
The ending was so bad he needed therapy
Imagine if this begins with Jon Snow waking up from his death haha, that would be a well deserved retcon.
Oh god, if only. Jon went downhill after his ressurection.
Yeah, this will be tough, but for hypothetical’s sake. A compelling plot line could be incorporating the Faegon storyline in which Faegon shows up and tries to take the throne and Jon heads back down to kIngs landing to defend his brother, but that would need a return of most of the cast to work and I don’t see it
they could easily write some off.
like Bron was assassinated like 1 year into his service as lord of the reach.
Sansa dies of fever or plague and her son/daughter now rules the North.
Arya got eaten by sharks etc etc.
Completely agree with you people keep saying there is no source material or anything but there is A LOT of concepts cut from the Books that weren't used in the show that can be repurposed for a sequel show. Faegon, Lady Stoneheart, the book version of Euron Greyjoy (probably turned into a different character), and House Reed knowing Jon is a Targaryen.
@@michaelkean5969 that would be funny
@@mouse3872 it's like what star wars is doing now i know disney star wars is very controversial but the reincorporation of Lore and ideas is one of it's better aspects future Westeros shows could do the same.
No plot line would ever change what happened in Season 7 and 8.
One of the dumbest things from the GoT finale was Jon Snow returning to beyond the wall with the remaining wildlings. The whole entire point of the wildlings is that they want to live south of the wall because its so immensely miserable to live north of the wall. Why the absolute schnitzelfuck would they go back there?? 'Exiled'? The man and these wildlings kind of saved the entire goddamn world. Surely they could live north of Winterfell since all the great houses over there were wiped out by the walkers. And they are actually going to make a sequel about this? lmfao
P.S. Good video though, I like your content. Keep it up my man!
And didn't they make the North independent from the seven kingdoms, he could legitimately stay in the north
they actually loved being North of the wall what was driving them South was the white walkers.
i do agree however but i also see this as an opportunity what they could do with this is "civilize" the wildlings and have the show be set 10-15 years after GOT and Jon and his wildlings have settled at say Hardhome once again and have built almost a full blown city and other wildlings Clans have joined him and they now live almost like a Settled Viking clan. with Jon being their King.
the main threat in this series could be Sansa whose gotten a taste for conquest is trying to expand her kingdom beyond the Wall and the show could be about Jon vs Sansa.
and grey worm left (and probably died to the butterflys in naath) so jon could've just return south of the wall after the unsullied departure
Yea this is what I came to say. Why the heck did they all go back!? There is probably dozens nice settlements they could occupy and just become the new northerners.
It could be interesting if it focusing on Jon trying to organize the free folk into a society. Maybe building up Hardhome and/or renovating East Watch. Give him a chieftain of one of the wilding tribes who wants to be King beyond the wall to prevent the civilizing of the free folk as an antagonist in season 1.
would be very boring, how about him going to other continents
I don’t care what any cry baby says I want this sequel. Jon Snow was my favorite character of all time and I want them to redeem his story. So I’m all for it. What everyone forgets to mention it was D&D fault GOT was bad at the end not HBO fault or the actors.
I think kit harrington would have to be payed a ridiculous amount to accept being in this show after what they did to his character.
@@Spartan-hu2go this is HBO we are talking about, they got the money.
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I blame George. The HBO writers were constrained by contract not to upstage the (still unreleased) book, they jointly announced that the ending would by the same, but the TV characters and book characters were going to get to the same conclusion by different paths. The book better have a fan-fucking-tastic ending to make up for THAT pre-arranged disappointment. Don't get me wrong, I still need to read it if it comes out in my lifetime but I'm getting it from the library.
No, it was HBO’s fault directly. They under funded the last season and rushed its development. Let’s see you make the equivalent of 4 and a half AAA movies in 2 years on a $90 million budget.
Jon travels to the heart of winter and becomes the next Night King
I would love to see a sequel show where Jon starts developing his full warg potential and learns to warg other beasts aside from ghost, maybe even warg other people too.. From the books we know the gift is strong in him.. I would like to see him ask Sansa for the Gift and being denied by her in order to favour the northern lords, which she needs to please somehow so they keep supporting her... Jon would take this really bad since his people, the wildlings, need a safer place to live and prosper, and winterfell is in debt with them... Sansa still will deny them the Gift.. Leading this to Jon declaring open rebellion to winterfell.. The wildlings would rally behind him and crown him king beyond the wall.. We could also see Val coming into the story and have a child with Jon. Now with a child and being clear that he will get no help from Sansa, he takes up the Stark name for himself and his child, and founds house Stark beyond the wall. The northern clans add their support to Jon. He starts becoming more credible as force and presses Sansa to give them the Gift or to face war. Sansa concedes to Jon, but some North lords don't take this too well, especially the umbers and the karstarks, that still feel house stark owes them for their service to Robb.. They rebel and betray Sansa, imprisoning her, and go to war against Jon for possession of the gift
Its looking more and more unlikely that Arya will ever get the sequel I hoped for
Why are you even hoping for more sequels? The only sequel we need is the Winds of Winter
In my personal headcannon, Arya discovers the New World in Planetos and it is Middle Earth.
Why don’t you want a Sea Snake series? It seems like it would be pretty interesting considering his voyages and political adventures
Nah dont lose hopes my friend, and ill watch a jon snow sequel and if that works I’m sure they will follow that up with a Arya sequel too which i will watch also, i hated how the final season but i liked a few things like jon and arya and i also thought what are they up to, i hope they do them, the more Asoiaf the better as long as D&D are not involved then im good lol
Why would Arya get a sequel when she isn’t even the main lead character of the show. Woke feminism has completely ruined media 🙄
It’s too much to ask for a low bidget story driven drama about Jon re adapting to the north, dealing with his guilt failures while having to handle a minor threat to the realm but a big threat to the wildlings. Finding himself and truly become the hero he was meant to be amongst his now own people. But that’s just a wildly utopian dream.
Kinda like El Camino finishing Jesse’s story after Breaking Bad?
That’d be awesome. Especially as a movie.
Maybe they could bring back some of the lore around the character in the books, who is actually called the Night's King. Maybe the corpse queen, or something with the white walker ice castle which we saw in the show. We still know so little about these things, the potential showrunner could do a lot with them. Here's a what if:
What if, While Jon Snow tries to make a new life for himself beyond the wall, a raven appears with a letter which has information from bran (or he talks to him in his dreams like you said) that a potential threat has set camp to the far north, in the ice palace that the white walkers once called home. This new threat, the corpse queen, a mysterious witch of unknown origin, might have been the one that persuaded the children of the forest to create the white walkers so long ago, assuring them that they would destroy the dangerous men that were taking over their home. In their desperation, they agreed, but when the night king was born, he turned on the children immediately, becoming the queen's strongest soldier thanks to the children's magic. After the king and his soldiers was destroyed, bran sought to send Jon, a man with some experience beyond the wall, to the north in secret, so he could investigate this threat, knowing he would abandon the wall and go with the wildlings. Potentially preventing the creation of another Night king.
Since the night king's motive was never explained (hell, he never even spoke a word) this could go some length to give some reason behind his lack of depth and make an actual character the reason behind the long night and all the death and destruction. Maybe it could be a witch from Asshai who found peace in death and wished to share it with the world through necromancy and ice magic. Sure, it would heavily skew the existing corpse queen from the books, but we know so little of her that it would not hurt to do something with her, plus it would still link her with the Night king in the show like she was linked to the Night's king in the books.
i would be all for that. not to mention a character arc for Jon would be to make him darker MUCH darker.
i'd have him be so jaded about westeros he ends up becoming somewhat of an Anti-hero whose very reluctant to help Bran at first.
Or maybe just no sequel at all.
So fan fiction?
Make it into a dungeons and dragons campaign and post a livestream playthrough video online. Who knows you can make it into an original story in the future like vox machina and their animated series on streaming.
@@michaelkean5969 so the story arc where jon snow becomes lelouch and eren yeager.
Man and Man vs wild. It's going to be Jon and Tormund hanging out in the forest with handheld cameras showing us how to survive North of the wall. Really looking forward to the Wildling Tent and Ice Spider Stew tutorials
I feel like adding in the unknown creatures that haven’t been shows in the show can really change things. Hbo can have a second shot and having a big villain and letting not only Jon be the one to slay it but also give us an ending we didn’t get with game of thrones. Oh and they need Ramin Djawadi
Exploring Jon's warging sounds cool. Would be interesting to see if they take the route of a darker Jon after the resurrection - could say it's taken a while to kick in or he's been pretending since the resurrection and doesn't feel the need any longer.
Him, tormund and ghost adventuring and Jon steadily growing darker and darker would be interesting. Whatever happens I hope they get Martin on as a producer, or at least have a meeting for some story ideas
I feel like they would have to focus on the fantasy elements that were never explored much. I imagine his series will be all about the giants and children and white walkers, whether they're directly present or not. Its kind of the only thing they can do with him now, after that ending
It'd be kinda cool to see more of Jon tbh
is this a joke?
@@ozy667 I believe it's called an opinion.
i'd love to see more of Jon Snow but the guy does need some serious character work.
think Uhtred of Bebbanburg. that is the type of character Jon would need to end up becoming.
@@ozy667 stupid Midnerys Stan piping up 🥴
@@michaelkean5969 what want to take the throne from bran?
I imagine Kit Harington pondering if he is ready to freeze his ass off again north of the wall.
Luckily for him, his ass wasn't going to be completely frozen outside the Wall. There are signs of the ice are thawing, after Arya killed the Night King in a disappointing fashion.
honestly i would take alot of inspiration from the Last Kingdom (TLK writers would be perfect for this aswell)
and have Jon Snow have somewhat of a similar character arc to Uhtred of Bebbanburg where he's very much a lord without land or wealth but his reputation as a warlord is what encourages people to follow him and he has actual character traits and wants outside of just defeating the current enemy because i feel that is what was missing from Jon's character past season 4 once Jon died and came back the guy had literally no motivations outside of beating the night king. we never once got any insight to who Jon was as a character. i know his meme worthy "i don't wun it" line is iconic now but if he didn't want the throne THEN WHAT DID JON WANT!.
this is where the inspiration from Uhtred would be great. Uhtred in the last kingdom pretty much started out as a "Jon Snow" type but as the story went on i can safety say he SURPASSED Jon Snow in terms of character. the guy was honorable to a fault but at the same time he had his own ambitions and wants outside of what Alfred and his family wanted. they should have done this with Jon in game of thrones. i feel what they need to do is introduce Val (or reintroduce her) into the story because she was the only other character in GOT besides Ygrttte as a potential Love interest for Jon but she just wasn't in the show. and their children would great possible new Targaryens and therefore a threat to Westeros's succession.
the series could also explore a Westeros after the war for the throne and explore how War ravaged it is and how it's just descended into Civil wars, Rebel factions and Bran has become a complete Tyrant that rules with an Iron-fist and his omniscience makes him near impossible to fight.
In the same vein, do you think they should make bran more like Alfred, in the sense that his enemies underestimate the crippled king, but in reality, bran's a very capable and cunning ruler?
@@rihaanparakkal6599 truth be told with the way Bran is now i would say he would make a better Villian.
because he's so robotic he doesn't understand humanity now and has turned Westeros into something almost like the Galactic empire but set in a fantasy setting. would be a great way to set up the TV Westeros apart from the Book Westeros. it would be unique aswell. having Bran become more of a Tyrant that's more machine than Man and really playing on the "Bran was the true Villian of Season 8" would be a brilliant twist that validates some of the terrible writing in season 8 to spark interest in the series again.
@@michaelkean5969 yea that makes more sense now that I think abt it. Jon snow as a uhtred-type character would be nice to see, though.
But again. A show with no book outline and is it needed? I just fear they’ll ruin the ending more than they already did. Let the dead rest in peace.
@@rihaanparakkal6599 i feel that if Jon's character is written in a similar vain to Uhtred that would be a really good way to have Jon be a much better character. where he's still your ache-typical hero but he does make mistakes and he does have his own wants and ambitions. i think Anti-hero Jon Snow would be the way to go. have him take a darker path and do darker things.
They'll use book characters that weren't adapted. Gurrantee they'll use Val, Ariane Martell, Lady Dustin, Darkstar, etc...
I would love to see a sequel show where Jon starts developing his full warg potential and learns to warg other beasts aside from ghost, maybe even warg other people too.. From the books we know the gift is strong in him.. I would like to see him ask Sansa for the Gift and being denied by her in order to favour the northern lords, which she needs to please somehow so they keep supporting her... Jon would take this really bad since his people, the wildlings, need a safer place to live and prosper, and winterfell is in debt with them... Sansa still will deny them the Gift.. Leading this to Jon declaring open rebellion to winterfell.. The wildlings would rally behind him and crown him king beyond the wall.. We could also see Val coming into the story and have a child with Jon. Now with a child and being clear that he will get no help from Sansa, he takes up the Stark name for himself and his child, and founds house Stark beyond the wall. The northern clans add their support to Jon. He starts becoming more credible as force and presses Sansa to give them the Gift or to face war. Sansa concedes to Jon, but some North lords don't take this too well, especially the umbers and the karstarks, that still feel house stark owes them for their service to Robb.. They rebel and betray Sansa, imprisoning her, and go to war against Jon for possession of the gift
For me it would be super cool if Drogon actually took Daenerys to Kinvara so that she could resurrect her. But it would be even cooler if Daenerys not only got resurrected, but she also is pregnant with Jon’s seed. Do you all imagine? I would gag at that. And for me it was always curious how in season 7 and 8 there was a lot of conversations about Daenerys not being able to get pregnant, like for me it wasn’t really a topic of much relevance, but somehow they (the writers) were kind of pushing the topic into the story
I think a possibility of Jon snow finding out that when he got revived something happened to him and he can’t die of natural causes. Then during some conflict in the first season he gets frozen and wakes up 100 years in the future. Then the plot could be about him finding out what happened while he was gone and try to find a way fix himself. Whether by the children or the gods or even him trying to find the new 3 eyes raven. Not saying it would happen but it would for sure be interesting and entertaining.
whatd you say about corlys spinoff😒
I like the idea, it adds depth to one of the main characters in the upcoming show and it would certainly be better then this shit heap
This could be TONS of fun! Maybe Drogon took Danerys to the Shadowlands where the mystery lady in the mask revives her and she goes after Jon for killing her. Or he travels to the heart of winter and finds a new Night's Queen on the Ice Throne...
I like the idea of Bran being the Night's King and White Walkers, Night King were just pawns of his game bound to his spell, just like how Old Nan describes Night's King in ASOS. Now Jon Snow has to fight Bran with the help of Mance Rayder's son, just like how a Stark and King beyond the Wall brought down the Night's King.
From what Iv seen online, many if not most people are happy with the idea of a Jon Snow sequel and I dont really know why. His story is done and much like Lord of the Rings it really feels like ASOIAF isn't something that needs a sequel and is better expanded upon by prequels. Iv seen people think of a million different things Jon could be doing but from a writing perspective what is the point? He already helped defeat the ultimate evil and the bad factions like the Boltons and Lannisters are gone in the show. Jon at this point is essentially just going to live like Thanos on a calm peaceful farm with Tormund drinking sour goat milk
We need a sequel where Jon goes north to find out what is north of northerous to
I can't speak for anyone else but myself but I'd personally like to see something more based on the Wildlings. There's so much North of the Wall to explore.
I'm not thrilled with the whole Jon Snow character, I'd been happy with just a random wildling but hey, I'll take what I can get.
Again, this is just my opinion.
honestly they could do something similar to the Last Kingdom and be more focused on Jon trying to either retake his home (north of the wall from rival wilding clans) and have the story be much more laser focused on him and his Band of warriors. (would be a created way to introduce new characters who are non-book original) or they could jump ahead in time and see how Jon and Tormund have actually settled and civilized The wildings and they have settlements and cities beyond the wall now and Jon's effectively built an actual Kingdom.
this could be where they introduce Sansa as the series Villain and have the story be about her trying to expand her kingdom past the wall and the story could be about how Jon and Sansa become enemies and just maybe Jon ends up finding a dragon egg frozen in an ice cave or something and one of the series themes could be about identity and explores Jon's half Targ side that GOT just forgot about.
there is actually alot you can do with a Jon Snow spin off series but they would need some seriously creative writers behind it. and i say the writers off the last kingdoms eries would be perfect for a smaller grounded story in the style of game of thrones but it still focuses on a primary character.
He’s still Aegon Targaryen. We haven’t seen him actually embrace that side of himself. Not to mention Val, which would probably be a new love interest. There’s still a lot of story to tell for the main character in Jon Snow
I would love to see a sequel show where Jon starts developing his full warg potential and learns to warg other beasts aside from ghost, maybe even warg other people too.. From the books we know the gift is strong in him.. I would like to see him ask Sansa for the Gift and being denied by her in order to favour the northern lords, which she needs to please somehow so they keep supporting her... Jon would take this really bad since his people, the wildlings, need a safer place to live and prosper, and winterfell is in debt with them... Sansa still will deny them the Gift.. Leading this to Jon declaring open rebellion to winterfell.. The wildlings would rally behind him and crown him king beyond the wall.. We could also see Val coming into the story and have a child with Jon. Now with a child and being clear that he will get no help from Sansa, he takes up the Stark name for himself and his child, and founds house Stark beyond the wall. The northern clans add their support to Jon. He starts becoming more credible as force and presses Sansa to give them the Gift or to face war. Sansa concedes to Jon, but some North lords don't take this too well, especially the umbers and the karstarks, that still feel house stark owes them for their service to Robb.. They rebel and betray Sansa, imprisoning her, and go to war against Jon for possession of the gift
This is like JK Rowling announcing new sequels for every other character in Harry Potter.....without finishing the original story.
Would've been better if HBO re-did the last couple of seasons with Jon waking up to right after he was betrayed by those Night's Watch members, and the last few seasons ending up being a vision of his.
Also wondering why you think a Sea Snake/Corlys Verlaryon series would be garbage?
HBO should have had taken the show away from D&D when they refused to give the last season at least 10 episodes. I don't understand why they haven't done that. With this decision they probably ruined a whole franchise. And they lost their great reputation as far as I'm concerned.
Since Season 8 in my mind HBO is connected with failure. And with the feelings of disappointment and frustration.
Season 6 and 7 were bad. Season 8 is a disgrace.
I think it could be good, hbo knows how to do quality series, I think the GoT debacle could be just a thing of bad directors and the other shows could be good
Jon Snow and his merry Wildlings traversing the True North without the White Walker threat seems good exploration adventure story of a man who fell in love with the True North, ended a tyrant's very instant reign, thrown outta The Wall for his efforts, and traversed a thawing True North.
They built up the symbols of the walkers so much then didn't do anything with it. Lots to expand on.
Another possible interesting theory is that Daenerys gets revived and before she can take back her throne she has to kill Jon. Also while Jon is in the north he find a way to use the power of the white walkers and he revived one of her old dragons. Then a battle between the unsullied vs the freemen and a battle between both dragons would be very cool. In a sense it would be a son g of ice and fire.
Edit: I got both of these theories ina a video about the topic on yt. Just wanted to spread these theories to fans more.
DAENERYS IS NOT GETTING REVIVED. Emilia has said several times she is donezo with Game of Thrones. There is no point in her getting revived. And besides, Bran said he was going to look for Drogon, and would have stopped Drogon from taking her to the witches.
Honestly, I enjoy imagining Jon Snow's journey and his self atonement rather than have a show that could ruin his entire character. And I doubt there's much left to build. I'd rather the show create new characters for us to love. I'm sure most of us love Jon Snow, but his character is already fleshed out, we know everything he would do already, he's predictable at this point. We need new characters for the show not Jon Snow.
Jon is just 50% stannis in the show
to be frank killing Stannis off was the worst mistake they ever did.
they should have had Stannis be Jon's "hand" of the king instead of Davos.
they could have had Sam and Bran find out who Jon is and once Stannis found out having seen Jon in action as a leader (and a shit ton of character development) relinquishes his claim to the Throne and starts Backing Jon's claim. having Stannis in Jon's corner, Tyrion/Varys in Dany's, Qyburn in Cersei's and Littlefinger in Sansa's.
now THAT would have been a GAME of thrones.
My theory is because he's technically the last tygarian, the fact that drogon is still alive. Theres a it chance they could use that for something r4ally really cool.
Ghost being Boomhaur just makes sense. He is the coolest character on the show, I'll tell you Hwat.
Are the animations gona be like the history and lore videos ?
The story could start off with a time gap maybe two or three years maybe five, Jon's been living as a Ranger and hasnt been back to the wall in sometime but has just been traveling around the lands beyond and helping people where he can. Maybe everyone thinks he is dead or missing but a few people mainly Bran and his small council know that Jon is alive and doesnt wish to be disturbed. And it could start off not with Jon but with Bran and show the Westeros and the outcome of the decisions they made. And all is well until Sam runs into the chambers and says that Lord Gendry has sent letters and called the Banners to war, not against the throne but against someone claiming they are Aegon Targeryan son of Rhegar so basically what's happening in the books but instead of being Un-opposed hes actually being held back a bit in the storm lands with Connington. And Bran claims that it's a Pretender through his 3 eyed raven abilities or whatever. When he calls the banners, some lords raise them for Aegon, Dorne has fully committed to them and some lords in other lands that hold loyalties to the Targeryans even believing them Extinct band together and rise up and start a rebellion in those lands. So the Seven Kingdoms are in turmoil with each lord paramount fighting back against there own uprising and send very little or no help at all to Bran, except the North who is ready to assist Bran as Allies. But Bran knows it's not enough so he heads to the gods wood while the realm prepares for war and begins warging. It cuts the the land beyond the wall where it's not always freezing now and Greenery has popped up all around and it shows a figure lone on a hill riding his horse up hill and he sees a large settlement with children running around and people about. And then he strides into town and people dont seem the mind much and greet him warmley. And when it dismounts its Jon and he says his hellos and and heads into longhouse and Tormund is there and ask how everything been since he was gone for longer than a month and stuff. Anyways some stuff happens go fill in the blank, Jon gets a message from Bran either by a Raven that somehow finds him, saying he needs Jon's help and the free folk in dealing with a Targeryan pretender and that has jon really thinking and Tormund his ever loyal friend speaks to him about the letter and ask what he wants to do. Jon knows the free folk dont want anything to do with the lands south of the wall and have enjoyed the peace they earned and fought for, some clans have even trade deals with the remnants of the Watch or the north and have ceased raiding tr he south but still fight amongst each other. So Jon knowing they wont fight with him and knowing he cant leave because then he would dishonor his vows tells Tormund that he cant go because he swore a vow basically how he was with Stannis, but Tormund says he can leave and doesnt care about his vows but since Jon's so inclined to follow them he can leave not as Jon Snow but as Aegon Targeryan. Jon remains conflicted about it for a few days before getting ready one morning and Tormund ask if hes gonna go on another ranging to which jon says hes not and hes going back south to help. So he and Tormund hug and says his goodbyes to the people of the settlement and Tormund wishes him luck and to come back alive. And that could be the 1st episode or whatver.
The Sea Snake is my favorite character (well tied with his son Alyn). I would love to see their adventures. Though it would be more of an "adventure of the week" show than having a big over arching story.
Normie Brain : I wanna see Jon go on adventures, do heroic stuff, save the world and this time get his just rewards
r/Freefolk Brain : Hope Bran Sansa and Brienne get hung, drawn and quartered to death by episode 3 and Da Mannis is retconned in as the Supreme Ruler of the Intergalactic Universe
Glenn Close But No Cigar Brain : This is finally going to be what was always meant to be. A burning passionate whirlwind romance between Jon and Sansa. Lady Ashford's Suitors Theory betches. Jonsa For Life.😭😭😭
It would be amazing if we got more of the Wildling clans from the books. They watered the Wildlings down so much, particularly Tormund, that they're just kind of boring. In the books though, they're awesome. And yes, all of the creatures of the Far North, too (with the exception of the WW, obvs). 🐻❄️
Ooo, and more wargs, too! Some warg battles/tension would be amazing.
I’m actually looking forward to this. And I think there will be fantasy elements to it. Because there could be a new threat coming. Plus there are a lot of mysteries in game of thrones lore that they could add easily. So ideas shouldn’t be a problem. A lot of people are still going off of how bad the last season was but they need to get over it. I was one of them as well but it is what it is. Plus we saw spring could be coming beyond when we saw the flower growing outside castle black.
First episodes Jon Snow has a hard life in a frozen tundra where nothing is alive. Then he sees a vision in his dream and begins his destiny driven the journey to Asshai. Along the way, over the course of two season he visits all new locations like Southoryos, Moraq and YiTi, banging all the vivacious women he can get his undead hands on. By the time he reaches Asshai, he is no longer "i dun wan it", he is very much a fiery Targaryan. In Asshai he meets many strange events over a few episodes until he enters the Shadow Lands to find and ultimately retrieve a wild untamed dragon who he names Nedly.
It is then that a shaman priest fortells that The Others are rising in the North, making their way to the Five Fortresses like in times ancient to descend upon Essos. Jon Snow, now called the Flaming Wolf Man, rallies the free peoples of Essos one by one over two seasons more, eventually leading to a final showdown at the Five Fortresses where using his Valyrian Steel sword, he lays the killing blow on the leader of the Others, King Cold. The final episode shows Jon heading south to Sothoryos where he plans to get tan and live on a beach with his various vivacious Essosi lovers. Fin.
I think it could work as a miniseries (one season, 6-10 episodes) or TV a movie that's about an adventure beyond the wall, really focusing on Jon's character. They could fill in some of the gaps left by GoT.
Plenty of book material they skipped they can use. And also some old theories that could be used as a grab to make a compelling show.
- bran becoming a villian as the children are seen in many theories as the true bad guys
- young griff of the books could be a main villian as well
-the resurrection of daeny could be something
- also sansa as a failed queen or a northern version of cersei
i think Having Jon Snow go down a similar path to Uhtred of Bebbanburg the main character from the Last Kingdom would be a great way to go aswell. in the sense that he's still a heroic honorable guy but he's become far more ambitious and ruthless. i'd also give him back some of that early seasons sass and snark he lost when D&D turned him into Ned 2.0. They could maybe also have Jon find a Frozen Dragon Egg in an Ice Cave and give Jon his own Dragon to raise.
have the series also explore westeros and the aftermath of the War for the Iron throne and how it's complete chaos and ravaged by rebellion civil war etc. i'm totally for character like Young Griff in this series. Val as well for Jon's Love interest/Queen beyond the wall (considering she just wasn't there in the show)
@@michaelkean5969 I think also dealing with his warm abilities and the memories of his family would be good for his character development, finding his real place in the world rather than with whatever people say he is, bastard, nightswatch, crow, stark, king, targaryen, traitor it be great to see Jon find who he is admits you know good writing
@@RaulRamirez-se9qo being able to warg his own bloodline would mean he could do it with Rhaegar as we can finally get the flash backs to Robert's rebellion but told through Rhaegar's eyes this could also lead into the possibility of the rebellion as it's own spin off movies or series.
i could maybe see Jon getting so fed up with the ideas of "Starks and Targaryans" He ends up ditching the name Snow and starting his own house like the Karstarks and house blackfyre and Griff could be a good Segway into exploring the Blackfyres (that is if he is one that is)
Daenereys also being resurrected and have her character arc about trying to get revenge on Jon at first but then be about redemption. that could maybe lead to a potential salvaging of the Jon/Dany romance . Dany finding out Jon's got his own dragon could also help with that. it could also potentially save the dragons from extinction.
there can introduce Val the wildling princess as jon new love interest
I’m cool with a Jon Snow series. It would probably be more interesting if it had other major characters in sub plots like Arya on adventures. Sansa in Winterfell. Dany in Ashi possibly being resurrected…The last one I’m just hoping for. Anyway great video!
I don't think grumpkins and snarks are actual creatures. I think they're just words to derisively refer to "monsters" or imaginative creatures in general. They are the White Walkers. The ice spiders. The Giants and Children...etc
John Snow series is an AWFUL idea without the finished books. People already feel very disconnected from the character for many years now. DON'T DO SEQUELS BEFORE (AND IF) MARTIN FINISHES, THANKS.
HBO: "Game of thrones doesn't want to be famous them I'll make it Infamous"
Jon Snow is the most loved character and his story is very unfinished. So I think it would be great to watch him finish his journey. Also let's not forget Drogon is still alive and Snow could call on him. Also other GOT characters are willing to come back to the series.
Jon the new king beyond the wall
The only way this works is if they explore his Targaryen heritage since that plot line was reduced to nothing at the end of got maybe something happens causing brans death or abdication which forces jon into becoming king for the hood of the realm
It makes no sense that HBO hasn't greenlit an epic one season prequel of Robert's Rebellion .......smh it's right there for them
Hear me out a new series focused on Jon snow going north and finding out that the night king is just the first phase and him having dragon dreams reminding of the duty of the targaryens to the world and then bran should be the main villain
jon snow can have new love interest For example Val the wildling princess
Keep it in the North! Keep Bran and the South OUT OF IT. Aren't we all sick of Kings Landing? This will be a show about the North. Only a few episodes with Queen Sansa though.
So here's how it goes: 5ish years of peace north of Wall. Shows life in small villages. Thenns separate and become new threat cuz they're cannibals. Jon and Wildlings mostly fight them off. But some Wildlings are killed and eaten. But then...
In unexplored Land of Always Winter, 25-ish of Casters sons (that have rapidly aged to adulthood) wake up and explode out of snow. They were asleep when Night King killed so unaffected. They come to life and are the new threat. There are fewer wights cuz 75% of former buried dead were destroyed in Winterfell. White Walkers need new meat and first attack Thenns in far north. Surviving Thenns come to Jon to warn him. Agree to join him and swear to stop their cannibalism.
Jon travels to Northern houses for help. Sansa @ Winterfell kept unused ok and some broken dragon glass. Beautiful reunion. He gets her help. Several winterfell men join fight. No time to ask South for help.
All go north. BIG Battle. Ghost shows up late but with Aryas wolf and pack in tow. Wolves part of battle. A few die. Northerners & Wildlings eventually win. Kill all white walkers. (MAYBE Drogon shows up when theyre about to lose and Jon rides him?)
Jon sends raven to King Bran explaining what happened. But all they need is in the North. Hundreds from northern houses help rebuild damaged wall and many man four forts. Jon oversees all but leaves north again.
Future shot: Jon has wife & kids. Scene shows his and Tormunds family having BBQ or something. Ghost mated and kids are playing with smaller half-direwolves.
Of course end shot is far north with ice cracking to unknown threat.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
2 minutes! I never been this early
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Everyone just assumes the Others are finished as a threat. Best story would be to show Bran as an evil dude and Jon realising there was an ancient treaty with the others that humans broke. Bran knew this but didn't care. Jon becomes the Great Other and takes back Westeros. The people in this book are in a circle of death and destruction anyway and Jon has seen this first hand, they are fated to destroy themselves over and over and all the innocent people beneath them are who suffers.
Whatever happened to the Arya spinoff? That is one that I would be interested in. Seeing what is West of Westeros.
They can go into detail about the nightking when will the walkers come from. I think there'll be another white Walker antagonist. The book specifically describes an event of the nights watch fighting the nightqueen
Always said D&D didn't actually finish the story, and that the Three Eyed Crow/Raven becoming king is not the end, that ultimately he manipulated everyone to become king (like Nan warned) and D&D just wanted out so they chose to end it there. I am pretty sure Kit was told the full arc of his character by George and he was pissed when D&D didn't finish the story, and this is why HBO and George are in for making a sequel: they want to finish the story. There are plenty of hints that the Night King was a "trick" to use mankind to help the TER become king. Jon would figure it out and try to take him down, or ends up succumbing himself to a power in a desire to bring Daenerys back and take out Bran once he realizes he was duped. Remember the story of the Night's King in the book, it sounds like Bran the Broken teaming up with Tormund to defeat his own brother and former lord commander.
I think it’s made to explore bit more about the lands beyond the wall. Winds of winter is said to cover a lot of mysteries beyond the wall. Show runners might be using this show as an excuse to cover them.
Whoever came up with this idea clearly is not a fan of the story/books.
They should just do dunk and egg, though the source material will only be finished after 100 years and we'll be left with another season 7 & 8 of GoT
I think the white walkers not being gone would be a good one tbh. Everyone wanted jon to end them so imagine if they just ended one “house” of the white walkers. They were the ones who wanted to end everyone and turn them into white walkers or feed on them. The other “house” wants to bring back the long night aka a era of total darkness
I would pay money to see how John kill the secretly evil Bran "the broken -Why you think I came all this way?".
HBO going to milk the Dragon dry
I want Bran to become corrupted by Bloodraven. Jon couldn't have been resurrected to just kill Dany, at least by book material.
I just want them to adapt Young Griff
I would watch a series about Jon Snow going to Essos with Tormund to find his half "brother"
wasn't grumpkin and/or snarks described in one of the books?
You had me until you said the show about The Sea Snake should rot in a HBO trash can. That is the one I'm most excited for. Wed get to see Asshai, Leng, the thousand isles. I honestly want that show more than I want HOTD. I already know what happens in that story, so as nice as it would be to see the dance on the big screen, seeing the edge of the known world interests me a lot more.
Did Jon fight the Night King , defeating him and winning Eternal Glory? No, Arya killed the Night King.
Did he get the throne? No, the Iron Throne was destroyed , the Targaryen Dynasty and hereditary Monarchy ended.
Did he get the girl? No he betrayed and Killed her .
Does anyone in Westeros know or care about his heritage, Triumphs and struggles? No, his heritage according to the wiki is hidden from Westeros by Tyrion and the Starks. All his adventures happened beyond the wall far from the eyes of men and proclaiming himself Aegon Targaryen is tantamount to admitting he is a Kinslayer.
There are no more important stories to tell about him but that doesn't mean he cant have a solid Coda. His sequel serves best as a Coda, chronicling the final story of the last True Targaryen in the world.
Here's a pitch, the ice thawing beyond the wall makes the lands beyond the wall fertile again and this attracts the interest of Essosi powers as this land has not been legally claimed by anyone and is ripe for the taking. Armies of mercenaries and slavers are raised to seize them. Jon leads the resistance against their attacks but suffers from the consequences of his desertion and the infamy of his crime , as few want to associate with him.
In Kings landing, Tyrion and the small council try to prevent further secessions from Dorne and the Iron islands emboldened by Sansa's actions and to gain legitimacy for the new order they are establishing especially with the haphazard nature of Bran's ascension to Kingship , while Sansa pregnant with her heir is unwilling to risk the future of House Stark after all the wars as they are still getting back on their feet, hindering the help they can give Jon though they do lend aid but not as much as Jon needs.
In the East a Volantene expedition to Valyria runs into Drogon and is almost destroyed but surprising a young woman manages to calm the dragon down and claim him, she is able to do this as she is a descendant of Saera Targaryen. Drogon takes her to his nest in Valyria where he has found a safe place in a land filled with supernatural demons and where the woman finds the remains of Daenerys which she takes with her for burial. She finds an intact library filled with knowledge of the magic of Valyria and a few eggs which can later be hatched to create new Dragons. All these she takes with her as she flies to Volantis. She is the beginning of the post-Targaryen , Neo-Dragonlord rise to power.
To end the tale , Tyrion and Bran manage to gain buy in from the realm to the new order of things in exchange for significant concessions from the crown and can now raise armies to resist the incursion but their aid comes to late to save Jon who is killed in battle though he kills the leader of the invading army is single combat . We see Arya return to Westeros after years in the West having found land there and exploring the continents of the west. A compromise is found to end the conflict and the far North is divided between the North, Westeros and Essos . Jon is buried in the crypts of Winterfell as a recognized Stark.
This wraps up Jon's story with him fighting the good fight one last time, setting the stages from new games of thrones in both Essos and Westeros and establishing a wider universe for the franchise.
At least this is my take on a potential plot to this series.
Can only be good if the premise is them going so far north they go south again and find somewhere new across the planet
Really hope they have the FAegon story adapted somehow, could even say that the force of the Golden Company was not the full force and they had been recovering from that loss.
I wonder if they going to explore him as Daemon Targeryan or more as John Snow he is after all the rightful king to seven kingdoms and a Targeryan and i know Bran was left as kign but remember he cant be king because he is the three eye raven he said this a bunch of times when his sister Sansa wanted him to take over the north so would this be a continuarion of game of thrones because i dnt see how they can make a show about John but leave the world of game of thrones behind ? Would we see the same people coming back would he come back ? Got so many questions
Honestly, I would prefer they just retcon the entire ending. I think it would be cool to see the aftermath of Daenerys actually taking the throne, Jon standing alongside her as her husband. However, he knows that many oppose her rule, and knows that he will have to fight to keep things peaceful. He will have to manage his lover's madness, as well as the ambitions and hatred of Westerosi people, including his own family. It could take us more into the political aspects of Game of Thrones and return to a more laid back but also more subtly tense atmosphere. And bring back Rhaegal so that there are two dragons running around.
That's just me personally, however, and I look forward to seeing whatever it is that they make.
the only way this could be dope is if he explores other continents because we already seen the north of the wall
i’m just waiting for GoT Brotherhood where Kit plays Ned this time around. That would be hype af. Maybe even get Rose to play Catelyn, but that maybe to much to ask for 😭
I really hope they’re gonna return to Essos with this. Maybe Bran gets a vision about a threat coming from the far East or the South and the only person he can trust with it is Jon. So Jon takes a boat and travels to Bravos… before making his way to Asshai or Sothyros or even old Valaryia. Maybe he mights run into Arya in the Far East.
Jon never left Westeros during the series… he barely even left the North. It’d be interesting to use him to explore places we never saw before.
I thought this was a in poor taste bad joke when I first heard about it. Then when I learned it was real I thought how out of touch and stupid could you be to approve such a thing? No one asked for this after season 8's ending. I frankly was one of the few I knew who was a bit excited for the Long Night series about the first time the white walkers came, I was honestly more hoping we would get the true story of Bran the Builder or the Night's King with his Bride. I actually really loved the History and Lore series they did, I would've loved a straight up animated series of all the great stories from it because I think you can do so much with a reasonable budget and tell a new story every episode or have a few 2 to 3 part arch episodes lots of possibilities.
I mean you don't have to watch the spin off. George is apart of the project and I'm going to watch it. I hope they will have lots of mystery and magical elements. They should make him a warg but they'll have to explain why he was not able to do this before. I also hope to see Arya, Tormund, Sansa and Bran-- If they make him evil. They also need to make his parentage mean something. Maybe he will get an ice dragon
Only way I’m watching this, is if Ilyrio Mopatis is a major player, they introduce the Blackfyres, and Fake Aegon Targaryen kills King Bran by end of episode 1. … Now Jon has to reclaim his birth right and take the 7 Kingdoms… anything short of that…. I’m not watching.
Drogon could show up plus im pretty sure that Drogon and Jon bonded without realising when Jon reached out and rubbed his nose it showed close up zoom in on drogons eye like something was going on and we have just seen that same scene in HOTD with Daemon and the dragon in the pit.
I would make a series involving Jon building up hardhome leading it to be a target of the skagosi who managed to become more powerful during the war of 5 kings or there's always the mystery of the lands of always winter and a possible new threat
I had major plots in that story:
One had Bran Stark solidifying his position as the King of the 6 Kingdoms, via sending his newly acquired forces to quell many uprisings there is on the remaining Kingdoms. As we all know, Bronn was a sellsword and maybe the Highgarden one day will not satisfy his craving for some fookin', Bran will have to contend with him.
Gendry, being a unrecognised illegitimate son of Robert, had problems uniting the Stormlands in his reign.
The Dornishmen still warlike, were united from the remaining Martell.
Westerlands under Tyrion will be allied to both Bronn and Bran, and plays the third wheel like Tywin ages before.
Riverlands still at their necks washed against each other, will be united against the feeble Tully guy, which will force Bran to subjugate.
The Vale will also come to ground, because the Arryn sitting was still a retard, sorry for the word, but I cannot describe what Lysa's son was.
The North will prepare and solidify under Sansa, but there were many Jom Snow loyalists out there.
The Iron Islands will retain their Old Way.
The Unsullied were going to eventually settle on the Summer Isles.
The remaining Westerosi Dothraki will have to adjust to Westerosi lifestyle.
The remaining Targaryen Aegon will reform the Golden Company, and set sail to reclaim whatever Dany lost against the Westerosi.
All of that, Arya arrives to the lands beyond the Sunset Sea, fulfillment of her vow to her old friend.
Jon meanwhile helps the remaining Wildlings adjust to a White Walker free life, settling wherever the arable land they find beyond the Land of Always Winter. Jon fulfills the vision Melisandre saw, and returns to Westeros proper to help once again the land from future enemies.
I mean ...didn't the white walker already respawn once before? Isn't it likely that they left a couple of homies behind in the lands of always winter to keep an eye on the babies they took and turned from Craster? Jon could try to track them down, rebuild wildling society, then around season 3/4 if the show is crushing loop back in the rest of the realm somehow with Faegon stirring shit up or Drogon or the free cities or the faceless men
Bran should be THE VILLIAN of the Show
I don't see how it could be good but I'm interested in seeing it. If Kits a big influence he was pissed that Jon wasn't able to see his full potential
Is he for real exiled though? Is the wall even there anymore? They’ve defeated the white walkers for good, so what’s the point of the wall? I think he’s literally just going north because that’s where he belongs. Who’s gonna exile him? Bran? His own brother? Nah man, he’s free to do whatever he pleases. His adventures are just beginning. This should be good.
Short guess Icedragons are mayby alive, but I think the others have killd everything beyond the Wall to fill their ranks.
maybe Jon get's an ice dragon.
@@michaelkean5969 yes mayby but I dought that it would save this stupid project
We'll it will be base 10 years after the event of Game of and they're going to need five or six characters to come back and I think this will give us a much better ending to The Game of story
Maybe its not just about jon snow it will be about all of the remaining characters i guess including arya and sansa . Maybe they called kit first and they will call others later i hope that's the case
To be honest I can’t see kit Harrington returning for anything less. I mean I’m pretty sure he’s good on cash and he’s working with Disney/marvel so he still has work lined up.
I doubt he would return unless it’s in his new contract guaranteed that his character either ends up (permanently I might add) as King of the 7 or 6 kingdoms, King of the north, Warden of the North, or Hand of the king. I would add “King beyond the wall” but he technically doesn’t really belong beyond the wall he was born in the seven kingdoms I just can’t see Kit being satisfied with a position that doesn’t involve him being it within the 7 kingdoms.
Considering how badly HBO handled GOT’s version of “Aragorn” by not even giving Jon a crown in the end or at least a position damn close to king status. I feel like it would be an insult if they try to make kit come back and he doesn’t get any of the positions I mentioned at the end of the show.
As for this new shows plot aside from the almost inevitable ending that Jon will get one of the positions I mentioned.
1. I guess they could retcon Danny’s death, “ Dani gets stabbed but not quite dead, the dragon flies away with her, takes her to some priest or something and brings her back to life and now she’s seeking revenge.
2. Or maybe they find some way to bring the night king back like he didn’t really die, that way give this guy a proper send off and final stand for the fate of Westeros.
3. Or some new foreign force overseas is brewing considering Daenerys is dead along with her dragons and Westeros is still recovering from a war some new king may wanna throw their hat in and see if they can take over.
4. Or maybe they decide to expand on the aftermath of season 8, starting a new internal rebellion in the seven kingdoms, if not necessarily to overthrow a Bran but other established houses seeking to grow there influence in Westeros. “Chaos is a ladder”
Hibberd is not an HBO insider, he was friends with Benioff and that's why he had exclusive BTS information. Since the show ended he's had no trustworthy information. Until HBO, Kit or GRR Martin confirm this, it's just a rumor for me.
Look back on all the theory videos for season 8 and see what people predicted would be happening in that season. Soon we will look back on this video and say “wow I wish it were even close to what was predicted”
Update: GRRM confirmed it. He also was surprised that this show was not leaked when others were, cause SNOW has been in development since others were.
what we need is Robert's Rebellion
There may be giants, and possibly some children.